#assassination

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safe shale
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That's why I said imo

raven trench
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yo guys whats the best trinket after grim ?

safe shale
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I don't like mouse over garrote at all šŸ˜‚

spice spire
safe shale
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I just press tab

balmy condor
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yeah well your imo is a bit out there sometimes

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gotta reel you back in

safe shale
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Hahaha mf

strange python
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do the tier set fixes mean the MA sanguinated build wont be the best anymore for ST ionsadhours

raven trench
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bro mandate is on queen i mean something droppable

safe shale
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Though 90% of players disagree with me are like 500 points below me so imo it's all good eheheh

latent badger
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does the ftb change make CT strong enough to bring in 2 target or n?

strange python
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i really enjoy that build though

balmy condor
safe shale
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I play sub optimal xD

grim jay
safe shale
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Nonono

latent badger
strange python
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im wondering if ill play assa for mythic queen

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if its even worth it to play sub

safe shale
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I'm saying that I'm highish io and don't play optimally so dw

balmy condor
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yeah davyns point is highish io = highish annoying

tropic cedar
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KEK

balmy condor
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but its all good

grim jay
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Asking for a friend

latent badger
spice spire
safe shale
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1098

remote trellis
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you guys are 4 digits HOLY

balmy condor
grim jay
spice spire
latent badger
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😦

safe shale
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Fact

grim jay
runic hinge
grim jay
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Because you are easily Top 5

spice spire
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Babe?

sinful elk
raven trench
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ara kara t rinke t good ?.

balmy condor
grim jay
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I shat on a guildie because he had 1 rio less

spice spire
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As god intended

balmy condor
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you also do the io doesn't matter until they disagree with you and then you gotta pull "doesn't even play the game"

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and if they do play the game

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you just find some streamer that does higher content

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and point at them and go "but they said differently and you don't play the game"

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gotta just find the bigger fish

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until you win the argument

grim jay
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Bro buttlicking dorki

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All day every day

remote trellis
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came for sin tips left with life advice Prayge

spice spire
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Damn

balmy condor
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normal player comes asking for advice? Well I'm a heroic raider so I know better. Well I'm a mythic raider so I know better. Well I'm a CE player so I know better. Well I'm a 300WR player so I know better. Well I'm HoF so I know better. Well I'm top 50 so I know better. Well I'm top 10 so I know better. Well I'm RWF so I know better.

grim jay
grim jay
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And the guy gets hit with a "you dont even have a job mf"

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Good old irl shaming

spice spire
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Man’s hit me with ā€œno hoesā€ so many times

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Pissed

grim jay
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Bcs he knows you could get all of them

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If you wanted

runic hinge
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Yeah Riley. You could get all the hoes

balmy condor
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Yeah Riley

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From Linus tech tips

balmy condor
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No

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From Linus tech tips

runic hinge
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Are we off topic again

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Someone should get a mod

grim jay
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Google didnt disappoint

spice spire
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On topic Surebud

grim jay
latent badger
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yo is SB meant to play any differently to the VV/DS build, I'm spending most of the time in a fight below 50% energy anyway to keep envenom rolling so just curious

balmy condor
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they play the same except you don't have to try to be under 50%

cunning needle
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ngl i hate trying to be under 50%

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swapped out of it for ovinax

grim jay
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I hate trying

cunning needle
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so i can pool more

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and feeling way more comfy

balmy condor
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I mean it's also not worth playing on ovi'nax

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just damage wise

cunning needle
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yeah i looked at breakdown and it was 2% or something

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so swapped to CT for ethical padding kek

balmy condor
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you mean for boss damage

cunning needle
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yes

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boss damage, funnel damage as well

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or something

balmy condor
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I mean no meme

cunning needle
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i'm still topping ST so it's fine

balmy condor
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it's more ST

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to play CT

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on ovi'nax

cunning needle
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??????????

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what cursed time line is this

grim jay
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Bcs of the target scaling

cunning needle
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wait do you maintain CT?

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or still only press with adds

balmy condor
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I mean you can maintain I guess if you want but just press with adds is fine

cunning needle
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i don't want to maintain so I won't

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šŸ™‚

balmy condor
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based

echo latch
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What flask are y'all using?

cunning needle
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the chaos one

latent badger
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orange

balmy condor
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the shower orange

spice spire
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Oh god

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I miss endwyr

grim jay
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That was so cursed

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Ngl

spice spire
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I tried it!

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I see the vision

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But no

cunning needle
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shower oranges are so good

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shower beers are better though

spice spire
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True

coral ibex
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toilet beer clears both

spice spire
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False

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Shower beers are unmatched

coral ibex
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trust me

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nah man you get shower water in your beer

slate crown
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wtf is going on

coral ibex
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it’s guaranteed

spice spire
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Bro no

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You keep the beer out of the water

cunning needle
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?????

spice spire
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You have space

cunning needle
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how the fuck are you drinking

grim jay
cunning needle
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that you get shower water in your beer

grim jay
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On the disgusting scale

slate crown
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guys my bath water is getting in my beer can i'm dunking under water it's all soapy and gross now help me

coral ibex
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do you guys have such spacious showers that you have room to drink and not get water in it?

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big ballers

grim jay
spice spire
coral ibex
grim jay
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Well its open

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Gotta have some space then

coral ibex
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this guy could fit a whole bar in his shower

grim jay
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Bathroom is 19

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Which is like

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Just enough

coral ibex
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are you an oil magnate

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you’re sure you mean meters and not feet?

grim jay
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Yes im german

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We dont do feet

spice spire
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That’s a lie

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Whispyr is literally proof otherwise

grim jay
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Wait are we talking about

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Sexually doing feet now

spice spire
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I’m being obtuse

cunning needle
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I'm being obese

grim jay
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23 or something

cunning needle
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sqm3?

grim jay
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m2

cunning needle
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wait i need coffee

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wh y did i add a 3

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those rooms kinda big though

tropic cedar
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ya i get this but that's essentially what subterfuge was before we got it baseline ye?

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before it was baked into imp gar

cinder quartz
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I think so yeah

tropic cedar
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ye i just have no idea what im talking about Surebud

grim jay
coral ibex
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are you 100% sure lol idk if i’ve ever been in a bathroom that big in my life and ive seen big ones

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it’s bigger than many master bedrooms

balmy condor
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18m2 isn't that big is it

coral ibex
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or you’re secretly insanely wealthy

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it’s 204 sq ft

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far bigger than my bedroom

grim jay
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Wouldnt call myself wealthy, its just build that way. I have 174ish m2 in total which is fairly average for houses at the area

coral ibex
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sorry to pry it’s just like

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that’s HUGE

spring moat
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
coral ibex
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well i’m glad you have such a sick shower

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i’d like to drink a shower beer in it

grim jay
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I learned to appreciate it more after having to shower in the bathtub under the sloping roof

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Because my shower didnt work

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I mean effectively its still less actually usable shower space because of the risk of spilling water everywhere and the range of the shower head

dense cloud
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is APL wrong or do we crimson tempest on ST too?

grim jay
mystic osprey
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Buff envenom by 100 percent

cursive owl
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uhm , good morning, i returned from my weird warlock fetisch that was present for 1 month. i did made nice WA for my rogue and stuff.. but i noticed, there is a talent at deathstalkers mark that is not working correctly, am i right ?

elfin haven
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!lag

prisma monolithBOT
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Significant WA lag
Weakauras has identified a source of large lag on some weakauras. This happens on any weakauras using MODELS in their display tab. Deleting the model or turning the affected weakaura to never load should give back a couple of FPS.

You can check for impacted weakauras by running the following script in your in-game chat. If any are affected, their name will show in your chat: lua /run local function _(a)if a.regionType=="model"then return 1 end for i,s in pairs(a.subRegions or{})do if s.type=="submodel"then return 1 end end end for n,a in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays)do if _(a)then print(n)end end

grim jay
spring moat
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Blizzard has announced that Zekvir's Lair will no longer count towards the Great Vault with the Weekly Reset.

cursive owl
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we do CT in ST now O-O

grim jay
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Because you would need to play without VV

coral ibex
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if you want to track momentum of despair

grim jay
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To use fok

fleet pagoda
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i dunno about "we" starege

cursive owl
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im completely out of the rotations

grim jay
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And need to crit that to use CT

coral ibex
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(don’t)

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it’s like a 0.13% gain or something

mystic osprey
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Why would you play ct in st

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Where did you see that

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That can't be real 😭

cursive owl
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uhh

grim jay
cursive owl
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the one who gives 30% nature dmg if it decays

grim jay
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Ovinax

cursive owl
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i tested on puppets and it didnt work

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neither buff nor debuff

grim jay
cursive owl
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is it buggy ?

grim jay
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The 2 min one

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Not the marks

cursive owl
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O-O ?

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wait

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am i too stupid to read correctly , lemme look into it again

mystic osprey
elfin haven
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anything else i should gun for? or am i done

coral ibex
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deadeye

grim jay
royal lantern
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taxes

coral ibex
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or void contract

royal lantern
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wait

elfin haven
cursive owl
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oh derppika

coral ibex
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p sure deadeye > sac but your sim will know

cursive owl
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nvm then

grim jay
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Crystal sims highest for me either way and its not even close. Gotta sim sac, dead eye and crystal

elfin haven
cursive owl
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i hate it but

coral ibex
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well sac has 3 ilvl more

elfin haven
cursive owl
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how do we fight with this kyrian dipsht now ?

cursive owl
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the white sword thingi that lets us use 3/4/5 cps as 7

coral ibex
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echo

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you press on CD

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and that’s it

cursive owl
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ah its called echo

coral ibex
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echoing reprimand

grim jay
coral ibex
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if you land on one of the cps it acts like 7

cursive owl
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mhm

coral ibex
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that’s it, just send finishers with them if you land on it

cursive owl
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uh.. so our new opener sequence ?

runic hinge
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I filled 2 alts vaults this week in less than an hour

grim jay
coral ibex
runic hinge
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Way more time consuming to farm keys

balmy condor
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well

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guess we're not delving

grim jay
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4 keys are like 10 min

cursive owl
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henlooo whispyr daddy majiiTappies FrogLove

balmy condor
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blizzard just hates that people interact with content I guess

runic hinge
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And then 80 minutes for the delves

balmy condor
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hi

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blizzard had the option to have people just run 8 zekvir

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or people don't do delves at all

grim jay
balmy condor
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and they chose no delves at all

runic hinge
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Instead of just doing 8 zekvir in 30 minutes and actually getting a vault I just won’t play alts now

cursive owl
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so its ambush , bleeds, caustic kingsbane combo. use echo before that ir after kb ?

runic hinge
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Not everyone wants to jump into m+ at 560 ilvl

coral ibex
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before i think

grim jay
cursive owl
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ok

coral ibex
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i still do delves, i’m part mole person tho

runic hinge
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They said they’re tuning delve trinkets again what if they make one busted

cunning needle
spring moat
grim jay
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They should fix the concoction one

coral ibex
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i haven’t outgeared tier 10/11 yet so it was relatively engaging for bountifuls

strange python
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
cunning needle
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bro i'm not good

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send help

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(needed valor stones)

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and it was the most efficient time to valorstone farm ratio

grim jay
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Is it?

runic hinge
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25 valor stones for less than 2 minutes work

cunning needle
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25 valorstones for 1minute of farming

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in and out is another 30 seconds

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you can hit instance cap in like 20 minutes

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THIS IS HOW BLIZZARD INTENDED US TO FARM VALORSTONES

grim jay
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Sounds decent I guess, but I only ran out of stones yesterday, dont have crests anymore either tho

cunning needle
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im constantly out of stones

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always something to upgrade

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upgrading weap cost 1k

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got some new trinkets as well

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need some later as well to upgrade new myth track gear

grim jay
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I had those before capping at any point

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Barely wasted any stones

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With cap

cunning needle
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i dunno man im just always short

royal lantern
stable cove
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Do we use clear the witnesses instead of mutilate when it’s up during death mark/kings bane window?

cunning needle
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🩳

grim jay
cunning needle
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apparently i have farmed 20k valorstones

grim jay
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Still only at 625

cunning needle
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this expac

grim jay
grim jay
runic hinge
cunning needle
stable cove
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Vv?

cunning needle
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for guild

spice spire
grim jay
cursive owl
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uh... can i show my WA , can u tell if its too overloaded derppika i got told its too fancy

cunning needle
grim jay
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Does it count capped valor

cunning needle
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dont think so

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otherwise some other guy would be way higher

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the guy on 1st has like 4 gear sets since he also tanks

grim jay
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Should be around that aswell then I guess

spice spire
cursive owl
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its assassination o.o

grim jay
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Since I have 1.5 sets of gear

cunning needle
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yeah i have like 2.5

spice spire
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Yeah it’s relevant

cunning needle
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swapping between assi and sub is fun

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and the occasional dabble in outlaw

cursive owl
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sooo... ?

cunning needle
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we give you permission

cursive owl
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ah derppika

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thank you

cunning needle
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you are welcome

grim jay
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The day I willingly dabble in outlaw will be the day I let them lock me up

stable cove
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Why do people play sub over sin in raid? ST?

restive falcon
slate crown
cursive owl
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the first one is the idle one, the second one is when stuff is active

slate crown
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You need to hit them with the "I like Frogs :3" as your message

grim jay
cunning needle
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wait shit im in the wrong channel

slate crown
cursive owl
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Arnorasip did i hear froggos

cunning needle
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i did kek

runic hinge
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I had 95% envenom uptime. It’s really not that slow tbh

west crown
cunning needle
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then who cares

tribal forge
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How much haste does everyone have ?

cunning needle
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gotta look at shit you wanna look at

spice spire
slate crown
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I know I know

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I'm ready

royal lantern
cursive owl
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what bars u would delere @west crown

royal lantern
prisma monolithBOT
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There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
  • Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
grim jay
cursive owl
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and thanks for feedback already

slate crown
spice spire
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It’s rough out here

cursive owl
grim jay
west crown
spice spire
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Ik you know the grue

tribal forge
grim jay
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Got me there

spice spire
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Ik babe

cursive owl
gray flower
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does Numbing Poison work on ZekVir

grim jay
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If the sims lie, its because Whispyr wants to manipulate us into thinking what the result suggests, so he can control our minds in pursuit of ruling the world

upper wraith
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id show my details but its being weird. is 3 minutes sustain 2.5M dps on dummies decent?

cursive owl
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but i do believe i dont need an bar for snd ? and the duration if echo is also not needed cause u use it usually as soon as possible no ?

west crown
orchid adder
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this is a dumb question but on the stat prio its "Agility >> Critical Strike = Mastery >= Haste > Versatility". Agility is obviously the best then critical strike = mastery, but I don't really understand the mastery and haste part. Mastery is greater than or equal to haste, but wouldn't that also mean its the same as crit? So crit/mastery/haste are the same?

prisma monolithBOT
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There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
  • Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
grim jay
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Haste has the potential to be equal depending on your stats

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Which is why you sim

cursive owl
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nice

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so i dont need snd at all anymore

orchid adder
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I always sim I'm just trying to understand the equation, linking it another time doesnt solve that haha. thank you anyways davyn

cunning needle
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dont worry about the equation

cursive owl
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i can delete 2 bars, thank you majiiWOW

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do i need to track dm ?

cunning needle
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you generally awnt to stack crit and mastery

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but after a while you stop wanting to stack crit

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and haste rises in value

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but at the same time

west crown
cunning needle
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stats mean so little to assi

cursive owl
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mhm

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we use vanish in kb anyway rt ?

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so no need to track dm

blazing pumice
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you definitely need to track dm

cursive owl
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on the right side i have dm icon +bar which indicates duration. gonna delete that also ?

cursive owl
stable cove
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In aoe without indiscriminate charge do we spread rupture or spam envenom with caustic

blazing pumice
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rupture to 5

sullen mural
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Both

stable cove
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Even without scent of blood?

west crown
cursive owl
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yes i thought so

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okidokis

west crown
stable cove
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Well I’m talking about like mythic ulgrax where you run tempest but not indiscriminate

cursive owl
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i do need to track DSM right ?

stable cove
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That’s what all the top 100 logs do

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So I’m talking about in the add part of that fight

sullen mural
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Rupture while they are being stacked up and then spam envenom

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Aint that deep

west crown
stable cove
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Okay thank u greatly

cursive owl
stable cove
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Sorry I’m still learnin

sullen mural
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All g

west crown
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But vanish on adds to apply

cursive owl
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well i dont need , ill use 7cp combos anyway

west crown
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Just don’t prio outside of vanish cd

mystic egret
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I use hekili but it almost never tells me to use fan of knives in m+, is there a reason for this or is it just wrong?

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I thought at 2+ targets it was good to

blazing pumice
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3

mystic egret
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isnt it two with the new talent

sullen mural
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No

mystic egret
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Regardless, it doesnt tell me to use it even at 3

blazing pumice
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idk hekili sux

sullen mural
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I've seen people even use it on 1 target cuz of that bait talent

cursive owl
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uh

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is hekili in auto mode or st only

mystic egret
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auto

cursive owl
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if its st only it eont

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wont

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then i dunno

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i recommend playing without it anyway

mystic egret
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but it is bad that it isnt right, I should probably stop using it

cursive owl
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its not accurate

mystic egret
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Thank you

cursive owl
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its okish to get an idea how the rota works in general "if u are smart to read it correctly" bit its not accurate so better start learning without it

sullen mural
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Assa rota really aint that deep

mystic egret
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Does anyone have a good resource they recommend to learn the APL?

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Harder than my WW was 😦

sullen mural
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Your rota is build combopoints

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Wait for envenom debuff to almost be done and envenom repeat

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Half the time i just bedge on st

cursive owl
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and spend them

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u need 100% uptime bleed and rest is to spam envenome right before it runs out

dusty crescent
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QUESTION for m+'ers what's the difference of choice between regular AoE and doing more of a funnel type rotation in a pull... does it matter on # of adds and if so what's your sweetspot?

sullen mural
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Wdym

balmy condor
sullen mural
dusty crescent
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funnel rotation to focus more on caustic on a high prio add and using your combo points to focus more into one add while still doing aoe, or are you just going ham with aoe in general and using spenders as they come

balmy condor
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Clear the witnesses yeah

grim jay
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If you dont have VV

sullen mural
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Its not tho

balmy condor
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It is

grim jay
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It is

cursive owl
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uh

sullen mural
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It does less dmg than multilate and cant proc ambush

cursive owl
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do we burst kb combo when we dont have vanish ?

sullen mural
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Why would i fok on 1 target

dusty crescent
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because of clear the witnesses proc..

balmy condor
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Because…. It does more damage?

cursive owl
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O_O

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what

balmy condor
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How are you doing your math

worldly sail
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i press fok because it does funny sound and swoosh animation pepe_chad

sullen mural
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I've legit stood on target dummies and it does less

minor finch
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Hey did you see the changes.

balmy condor
cursive owl
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FOK delas mire st than mutilate ?

minor finch
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The news ones

balmy condor
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Yes, pins

cursive owl
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let me check

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im interressted now

grim jay
minor finch
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What does that do?

rapid prism
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what key level does the hybrid build start to do better dps?

west crown
minor finch
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@balmy condor I clicked the pins my b

cursive owl
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ah

dusty crescent
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sometimes i'm just fk as and rupt then switch until i have 5 ruptures then i chill funnelling into one with whomever got caustic on it, you're saying that's right yeah?

sullen mural
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i mean your aoe rotation is envenom

dusty crescent
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though i may not be garroting enough.... outside of from stealth

grim jay
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In aoe

west crown
dusty crescent
#

yep okay ty

grim jay
#

You only garr your main target

#

Keep scent stacks maxed with rupture

#

And keep up ct

#

Else its just spattering MT

sullen mural
# balmy condor It is

Also mb forgot I've been playing VV all season no wonder my multilate did more dmg lmfao

balmy condor
#

bro I was about to cook your ass so hard

sullen mural
#

Nah i legit forgor

#

So i rephrase my statement

balmy condor
#

I was on paragraph 5 mathing it out

sullen mural
#

with vv its bait

balmy condor
#

yes

#

with VV we don't fok single target

sullen mural
#

I've seen people press it with vv

#

mybad gang

grim jay
balmy condor
#

I mean they're idiots what happens

dusty crescent
#

..> I gotta make sure i'm not fk'ing when i have VV oh boy

exotic hearth
#

Just starting H Queen prog, any tips?

dusty crescent
#

sweat

balmy condor
#

it's in the guide even

sullen mural
#

I just have it cuz it does same/similar dmg to other builds and i dislike the others

balmy condor
#

you're playing VV in keys?

#

that's crazy

sullen mural
#

Nono st

balmy condor
#

well then wtf man

#

the convo was fok usage in m+

sullen mural
#

Wasn't it mainly about targets

#

whatever men

balmy condor
sullen mural
#

90% of these bosses spawn ads anyways so U'd wanna fok with proc

#

rarely even 1 target

frigid wing
#

shadowmeld doesnt activate indiscriminate carnage?

spice surge
#

It does not

sullen mural
#

that'd be wild

stable cove
#

Seeing lots of top parses run shrouded suffocation instead of dashing scoundrel, up to like 80% on some fights. Thoughts? Concerns?

balmy condor
#

equivalent talents are equal

sullen mural
#

There's like

#

8 talents you can change around as you like and it does like the same dmg

mystic egret
#

WHY AM I BEING SCREEN SHOTTED

sinful elk
#

I was a Hekili enjoyer for about 5 days to just get even remoted started on retail buttons, but its a huge hindrance to actually understand the finer details. Only gotten better since disabling it.

west crown
grim jay
sullen mural
#

if you can do that before your fury warriors go brrr

grim jay
#

For mentioning hekili in out sacred halls

blazing pumice
#

but idk, sometimes it just doesn't work for whatever reason

stable cove
#

Prep combo points for an caustic envenom right when roots spawn

sullen mural
#

preferably with Darkest night

runic hinge
orchid adder
#

has the need for doing tyrannical and fortified for each dungeon gone now for rating? is it just based off highest number completion?

sullen mural
#

no even better

spice surge
#

Yes, at 10+ every week is fort+tyran

sullen mural
#

you get fort and tyran at the same time

#

twice if you do +12's even

orchid adder
#

ahh i see, makes sense. i guess the xalatath affix is whats controlling the push weeks

sinful elk
#

next weeks affix sounds comfy? idk

west crown
#

Outside of 11 -> 12, what’s the worst jump in difficulty. I’m only starting to feel it at 8 -> 9

#

M+

balmy condor
blazing pumice
#

9 to 10

balmy condor
#

every week is push week

sullen mural
#

9>10 prob cuz its tyran and fort

#

but holy fuck going from 11s to 12

#

just shoot me

balmy condor
#

loot stops at 10, and so do I

sullen mural
#

lejit

#

11's are fine but i aint going into 12's again unless sm1 pays my rep costs after that dungeon

#

and thearpy

orchid adder
#

ooh interesting. i mean pleb push weeks are sorta controlled by the affix though right lol. like it would have been easier to push to 12 for your first time with an "easier" bargain

sinful elk
#

Stolen from r/wow, our relevancy is nice !

balmy condor
#

is it really a push

#

if it's like

#

vault keys?

coral ibex
orchid adder
#

im just a humble rogue my friend, our definition of push are different :((

blazing pumice
#

as someone mentioned in the comments, those 14 keys are literally like 2-3 groups

west crown
sinful elk
#

anything above 12 and up* is a niche crowd. up at 14 i think 50% of ALL data is the same party of 5?

sullen mural
#

yeah like 4-5 partys that have done 14's

pliant remnant
#

smh gaslighting

sullen mural
#

Oh yeah that ss reminds me

balmy condor
#

I need that for vault okay

sullen mural
#

I didnt do my weekly delves yet for my trinket on hero track

balmy condor
#

11 mists is basically 10 anything

#

so it's still a vault key

grim jay
sullen mural
#

I love delving ...

pliant remnant
main urchin
exotic hearth
#

Any advice for H Queen?

balmy condor
balmy condor
grim jay
#

Ngl

balmy condor
#

anything else idk open wowhead

sullen mural
#

just step before you get dragged of cuz u cant do it when you fall off

#

or like while you get yoinked ig

sinful elk
#

good enough for now kek

severe sparrow
#

oh no this reminds me of that dispell guy in sanctum

#

where you had to step before you went off the plaform but the auto assigner thing always put me on the outside and i sucked at it

grim jay
#

Idk I really dont wanna get the dagger trinket

#

Ngl

sullen mural
#

Why not

grim jay
#

Bcs I know my luck and it will proc during DM

#

And I like Mandate

sullen mural
#

just cloak the debuff off you

#

10head

grim jay
#

Yeah id probably Bench myself for that

sullen mural
#

I'm not saying your wrong

#

I'm just saying you could

#

Stand in swirlies to make it seem worth? idk

#

It really isn't procing that much

#

this was 5 min fight

past forum
#

Just say you were trying to pre-immune a mechanic

novel star
#

the only thing that stops your step is being off the platform

#

you can press it at any point during the pull if the platform is still below you

sullen mural
#

Yeah language barrier

#

me no england

novel star
#

yeye all good

#

i get u

#

u can give urself a lot of space or a little based on how sick u are pepeLa

#

vanishing/cloaking the web thing p1 is good too

sullen mural
#

Its hc just dont fall down and u kill, sac the dmg

novel star
#

i mean yeah

#

but optimizing is fun

#

if u can do it without dying

sullen mural
#

Yeah but they on hc ansurek prog not farm

novel star
#

i got aotc doing the steps

#

took a bit to learn but

#

it’s not that bad

sullen mural
#

I mean yeah stepping for sure

#

just like dont stand on the add thats on the edge

#

cuz that shit is close af

novel star
#

the other ones are rly just like

#

when r u gonna use vanish outside of that

#

or cloak

sullen mural
#

Well i did cuz i have cancer and accidently used darkest night when we broke p1 shield so i didnt have dsm

#

So i needed my vanish lmfao

novel star
#

fair

#

can vanish the first set tho

#

and cloak 2nd or something

sullen mural
#

I just let my fury warrior have fun

novel star
#

ya it’s not super relevant but it feels good in ur brain

sullen mural
#

Time to racechange to gnome for the roots

novel star
#

ew

sullen mural
#

dont u also get 5 max energy?

#

huge man

#

sanguin value

#

can go to 152.5 energy

novel star
#

still fake though

sullen mural
#

I mean yeah ofcourse im joking

novel star
#

garbage race

sullen mural
#

think its 5 xdd

novel star
#

void elf / panda bis

sullen mural
#

As someone playing m+ i disagree

novel star
sullen mural
#

Nerf stoneform so i dont have to be a dwarf

#

someday blizz someday

indigo mulch
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
leaden viper
#

People hate gnomes here too huh lol

dapper cradle
ashen scroll
west crown
#

Melding to kill my tms in m+ is an option too

pliant terrace
#

the changes go live on reset this week yeah?

ashen scroll
#

If I gotta play gnome on ansurek dead

leaden viper
#

Gnome is best race

#

.

fair stag
#

yo yo fellow assassins... any of you have a good Sin plater profile you can share?

vast loom
#

!plater

prisma monolithBOT
fair stag
#

ā¤ļø

true rapids
#

Is there a way to check the ver of the plater profile I imported idk when the last time I grabbed it?

sonic briar
#

ayo so for broodtwister mythic should I be looking to rupture 2 mobs on add spawns

#

just for follow the blud

balmy condor
#

you never play follow the blood

#

that talent sucks ass

upper wraith
#

What are you thicc rogues doing for overall in 10-11keys? I’m somewhere between 1.2M-1.5m just curious where y’all land

sonic briar
#

oh wait yeah im dumb, thanks

balmy condor
#

1.4m-1.8m

#

ish

upper wraith
balmy condor
winged gust
#

damn how yall be grinding that high

strange python
#

wow mythic raider

coral ibex
#

i mean i am pulling 1.2m overall in dogshit low keys at 613

#

ilvl go brr

prime hull
#

Which single target build is best? On logs, I am seeing builds with and without vicious venoms/improved garrote/sanguine blades. Does it depend on the fight?

spice surge
#

It doesnt really matter

#

Some gear setups one or the other sim 0.3% either way

prime hull
#

If the builds sim very close for me is there one preferred? For easier gameplay or ability to cleave, perhaps.

balmy condor
#

preferred would be 2x vv

#

no imp gar

vast loom
#

if you want easy go for no shrouded

coral ibex
#

why does the first boss in grim batol always eat my capstone

#

when the fight ends

#

ive tried having the capstone or marks left on him when he dies

prime hull
empty shadow
#

How do you open on Rashanan? Everytime I try to do this fight, when I start my opener I get the web and have to run out and if I hold my opener, I don't get the mechanic and I just delete my opener. How do people approach this? Ignore the mechanic and hit the boss anyway? Heroic raid.

runic hinge
#

You just play like you’re not gonna get it and if you do oh well parse next week

spice surge
#

Well you shouldnt need to run out regardless

#

Just run far to either side while still being in range

empty shadow
#

For sure. I'm just not gonna run it out lmao.

spice surge
#

?

#

Im not memeing

empty shadow
#

Well, as far as Im going I mean.

#

No one else is even in melee but me.

#

its a small af raid.

autumn wren
#

I thought I saw Slice and Dice was going to become passively triggered by rupture somewhere, but can't find it.

Am I dreaming? When?

spice surge
#

No, triggered by envenom

#

Next patch, 0.5

empty shadow
#

Yup and Feint off GCD, thank god.

autumn wren
#

Ahhh, gotcha. Thank you! Sorry, new to the class.

twin hull
#

anything with follow the blood hero talent?

balmy condor
#

legit in the message you just replied to

runic hinge
#

Can’t follow the words but can follow the blood. Smh my head

orchid forge
#

hi does anyone know what ability is represented by this picture?

alpine oracle
#

Hello, is arakara trinket better than crystal? to me, crystal sims better but i see that noone uses it

west crown
#

Just pray you don’t get it or hold until first web goes off

slate crown
#

is that even from wow?

orchid forge
#

ayeah

past forum
#

I think the trinket from Vault of the Wardens used that icon

neon thunder
#

!guide

tall jay
#

decent trinkets till i get more heroic kills?

severe sparrow
#

finally starting mythic prog tonight

#

cant wait to be really mad constantly

errant mauve
#

That’s how I feel on heroic queen… apparently it’s impossible for some people to dodge shit or listen to directions

slate crown
jade spindle
#

hey do you guys have any recommendations on any addons/weakaura's to tame all the big numbers from the combat text?

#

feel like it takes up so much of the UI

severe sparrow
#

i think i have those turned off, or uh, if you like them miks scrolling battle text

#

oh no mine are on but set to size 9

jade spindle
#

thats a good point, ill try play around with the sizing

covert jewel
jade spindle
#

yea thats it

#

with all the dots

#

its just....holy moly, so many numbers lol

covert jewel
#

try nameplate sct and set it up

#

like i only see envenom dmg

fickle lotus
#

Got my first pulls on broodtwister prog and good lord does this fight just absolutely blow

severe sparrow
#

are the ulgrax mobs tricksable?

fickle lotus
#

yes

cursive owl
#

is fatebound much better than deathmark ?

#

or arw they kinda equal

runic hinge
#

Equal

#

!hero

prisma monolithBOT
#

Both Hero Talents are viable in all content, and are within 2-5% of each other.
Fatebound: Instant damage, is easy to play, can remove some buttons from the rotation, little to no added gameplay
Deathstalker: Introduces gameplay, Singular focus adds big priority damage, suffers from bugs and marks being hard to juggle in easy content like heroic/m0 dungeons

cursive owl
#

oke

#

gonna try fatebound soon

runic hinge
#

It’s very comfy brain off

eager tree
#

its lit just swapping ER for cold blood right?

dim yacht
#

fatebound feels quite a bit behind in m+ imo

#

or maybe i just suck

cursive owl
#

ST fatebound dont use echo o.o ?

dim yacht
#

was playing with a deathstalker sin rogue the other day when i was fatebound, he had 50% more envenom damage than me with very similar gear, and i had slightly more envenom casts

eager tree
cursive owl
#

the st guide doesnt use it at leas o.o

#

and the secon tree has no energy regen from crit posion hits in it ?

median root
cursive owl
#

ahh nvm

#

yes yes i can understand

#

i figured just now uwu

wild birch
#

Is it possible to kill zekvir at ?? as assa?

dapper cradle
#

how far ahead of follow the blood is momentum of despair?

nova kelp
#

some of us did it like week 2? 3? w/e

odd heath
#

week 2 / 3 had brann ultra strong lol

#

soloing shit

wild birch
#

There was some sort of Brann abuse

nova kelp
#

you can still do it

wild birch
#

Yea

nova kelp
#

I did the repeat

#

but I was like significantly more geared

pure raptor
#

!up

dim yacht
#

any suggestions for a weakaura or tellmewhen for tracking darkest night? i did see the WA list, but with so many links im not sure where to check specifically for just that

severe sparrow
#

man fuck the amount of nameplates on this boss

novel star
#

which one

severe sparrow
#

the first one dogeKek im really bad when i have a lot of plates in front of me,

novel star
severe sparrow
#

which is why i never even tried to play ass in keys till this xpac

dim yacht
novel star
#

le rogue collection might have it

#

somewhere

#

dno

severe sparrow
#

i have one i made for me but it's probably gonna look jank in your setup

novel star
#

nvm Hmmge

#

idk you could prolly just yoink it out of any pack

#

and copypaste to ur own shit

dim yacht
#

never used wa before really, so just trying to figure things out

slate crown
#

That will walk you through creating a basic Aura, which you can then study and use to understand some of the very basics

#

The thing you're asking to track is very simple and will be doable via template pretty quickly.

The entire system can be daunting at first but it's rewarding once you see how it all fits together.

dim yacht
#

gotcha, thanks for the advice!

slate crown
#

As always you can ask if you get stuck, or as stated if you cba to do any of this just take from an existing pack

novel star
#

i generally cba which is why i suggested that XD_FB

dim yacht
#

so what im trying to do is make a weakaura that will play a sound when darkest night is up, and a different sound when darkest night isnt up and mark isnt up on any target. is that something i can do?

covert jewel
severe sparrow
#

does it have more than it does on heroic?

#

did they add more little men?

slate crown
# dim yacht so what im trying to do is make a weakaura that will play a sound when darkest n...

Sure is. That's a bit more complex than what a template will walk you through doing but it's absolutely something you could do with just a couple of triggers and some conditions.

Keep in mind for your second sound, if neither mark nor darkest night are up, that's a persistent condition not really tied to anything so you may need to think about exactly when you want such a sound to play. Entering combat? Only playing once when you attack? Etc.

cunning needle
#

have it played it constantly to remind you of your failures.

slate crown
#

On my pack, I have my icon showing for Mark/Darkest night, and when neither are active I have it activate a bright red glow which stays active, but only when I'm in combat.

dim yacht
#

couldnt that cause an issue though? because you dont enter combat until stealth is broken right?

#

in which case you cant ambush at that point

cunning needle
#

press vanish

#

then press garrote again kek

novel star
dim yacht
#

sure, but thats a pretty suboptimal use of vanish

slate crown
novel star
#

pretty much every egg break is 2 at once stacked next to eachother

#

on mythic ovinax

severe sparrow
#

fuck

cunning needle
#

no it's not a suboptimal use of vanish

#

it is in fact teh most optimal use of vanish at that given time

slate crown
#

It wouldn't happen ideally

severe sparrow
#

im legit not sure if there's a setting i could do that makes mine less cancer or if i just have to get good

novel star
#

getting access to your entire hero talent tree would not be suboptimal yea

dim yacht
#

sorry i meant in the larger scheme of things. yeah, like you say - not an ideal situation

cunning needle
#

yes correct, it's not an ideal situation

#

but you gotta adapt

dim yacht
#

would i be able to have the sound just play once when mark/night are both down?

cunning needle
#

improvise

#

overcome

slate crown
#

Though that applies like

#

When you're sitting in town right?

dapper cradle
#

for the hybrid build, what would you drop to take twist the knife?

slate crown
#

So that's why I have the In Combat condition

dim yacht
cunning needle
#

could set it to activate it when in instances

#

rather than incombat

dim yacht
#

yeah okay so i can do that

cunning needle
#

could make it have a big massive text saying

#

PRESS AMBUSH YOU MONKEY

slate crown
#

Yup, you can also do that, have it only active or load in certain zones or types of zones

cunning needle
#

wait maybe i need this weak aura

novel star
#

i already see text calling msyelf a monkey

#

in my head

#

when i do the rotation wrong

#

dont need a wa for it

cunning needle
novel star
#

parse fueled by self hatred

dim yacht
#

so with what im trying to do here, how hard is it for me to start learning how to do that with a weakaura?

west crown
dapper cradle
#

seems like twist might be worth?

cunning needle
#

think about your question though, how are we supposed to answer it

dapper cradle
#

or am I trolling

dim yacht
#

probably improved poisons

cunning needle
#

we have no idea about your intellect

#

or ability to make weak auras

dim yacht
#

or a lethal dose if youre 2/2 on that

novel star
#

lethal dose is too good to drop prob

cunning needle
#

logically it's not a very hard task

#

you just set up two conditions

#

and then triggers based on them

dim yacht
cunning needle
#

also if you need help - the WA discord is useful

dim yacht
#

ironwire? kekw

novel star
dapper cradle
#

2 stack twist might just be ass for keys then?

dim yacht
#

i think wed have to see it first

#

i feel like it could be good personally

novel star
#

simply wait until we can sim it

cunning needle
dim yacht
#

i dont think going 1/2 lethal dose instead of 2/2 for twist would be terrible

runic hinge
#

Master assassin for 12 seconds is gonna be better than twist. You heard it here first

dapper cradle
#

would dropping arterial for ST work?

#

or is the 30% bleed giga

west crown
#

The only thing I could think to do would be run twist and master assassin, drop amp and tempered and grab the stealth upgrades on the other tree if it’s actually good enough

slate crown
# dim yacht so with what im trying to do here, how hard is it for me to start learning how t...

I'll just say what you're asking to do is a very straightforward thing. It's not a trivial aura, but it's also not very complex either. The actual difficulty of learning to get there is based on factors that lie with you, it's a learning curve and I can appreciate that. Fim gave you some hints at it already, you can also ask here, I'm typically around and I make these things very frequently and am happy to provide support. WA discord is also an option for support

dim yacht
static glacier
cunning needle
#

you got this mate

dapper cradle
novel star
#

i mean in raid you would just drop sbs

cunning needle
#

if it helps as well - take a look at some of the pre existing weak auras

dim yacht
#

i will see what i can do on my own, and seek further help if i cant after ive actually tried

cunning needle
#

and see how the logic works there

#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
dapper cradle
#

fast ramping kingsbane makes me bricked up ngl

cunning needle
#

all of them do what you want to a certain extent

#

just probably not the out of combat part

slate crown
#

Honestly you could probably just take mine and find the place where it does the red glow, and add on top of that a sound action. Can also add an extra trigger to that for Dungeon location etc. Though, as you stated you should try it yourself first

dim yacht
#

yeah i did consider that. i just dont want to be completely illiterate. i will def be asking for yours if i cant figure it out, but i wont get anywhere if i just expect everything to be handed to me

novel star
#

based

dim yacht
#

i like trying out new things. the other day i tried a no stealth sin build for keys where i removed every single talent that had a stealth benefit

#

worst idea ever. but i had to try it

dim yacht
#

it was as bad as you think it is

dim yacht
#

i also tried a build in dragonflight without venemous wounds for a meme. and i believe its the one case where whispyr is wrong where you WOULDNT use amp poison when talented into it

static glacier
#

something like the broodtwister build

#

there we are, 0 stealth interactions

dim yacht
#

yep thats actually what i was running

dapper cradle
dim yacht
#

it felt awful

#

it probably didnt help i was doing a +5 though

#

i was too scared of trying it in a +10 and getting flamed

severe sparrow
#

i wanna ask if everyone's nameplates are as bouncy as mine but im absolutely gonna get flamed

slate crown
#

Mine are absolutely very bouncy

dim yacht
#

@slate crown triggering a sound was pretty simple. got that sussed for my darkest night part (havent gotten to the next one yet) is there a way to change the volume of the sound being played, or do i need to edit the mp3 im using for custom sound itself to change it before using it?

spice spire
severe sparrow
#

also dont pay attention to what i was actually doing in game cuz i was trying to get this clip to go

cunning needle
#

yeah that looks right

slate crown
#

But when a sound itself plays there's not an individual volume slider on that sound play instance

dim yacht
#

i cant imagine itd be particularly difficult. i know how to do it in a very roundabout way

#

its just a pita

slate crown
#

I know nothing about media manipulation outside of the game

#

But yes, once you have a custom file you can play it with a custom file path

dim yacht
#

found a super easy quick mp3 editor online, so wasnt too hard

zenith axle
#

can anyone help me with my ST sim? it feels extremely low

#

idk if my gear is bad or what

balmy condor
#

link

balmy condor
#

you have ever buff turned off

#

and you're in an m+ talent setup

zenith axle
#

yes this is for m+

balmy condor
#

and your higher ilvl dagger is in the wrong hand

#

and you don't have anything enchanted

#

or gemmed

cunning needle
zenith axle
#

my stitchflesh is 613 and in my main hand

west crown
#

Everything wrong, is wrong

zenith axle
#

is that the wrong hand?

balmy condor
#

this is not 613

zenith axle
#

that's weird on the simc copy paste it shows up as 613

balmy condor
#

oh it sims like a 613

#

nice tooltip jank

#

yeh idk this doesn't seem that low

#

it's just a strange sim missing a lot of stuff