#assassination
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yo guys whats the best trinket after grim ?
I don't like mouse over garrote at all š
Mandate
I just press tab
Hahaha mf
do the tier set fixes mean the MA sanguinated build wont be the best anymore for ST 
bro mandate is on queen i mean something droppable
Though 90% of players disagree with me are like 500 points below me so imo it's all good eheheh
does the ftb change make CT strong enough to bring in 2 target or n?
god I hope so
i really enjoy that build though
CT is already taken in 2 target
I play sub optimal xD
The m+ andy mindset growing strong

Nonono
oh I'm on the wrong fkn page for court then holy
I'm saying that I'm highish io and don't play optimally so dw
yeah davyns point is highish io = highish annoying
KEK
but its all good
Whats highish io tho
Asking for a friend
high level = annoying, elite level = chill like most other games or no?
1098
you guys are 4 digits 
well in world of warcraft it's more like high level = annoying and elite level = racist or sexual assault
Dang you are going strong brother
Iām 2 digits
š¦
Fact
1 digit for me
69
Because you are easily Top 5
Babe?
high is what you are. below you are noobs. above you got boosted. this is the way.
ara kara t rinke t good ?.

HE FIGURED OUT THE CODE
he cooked
yes
Based af
I shat on a guildie because he had 1 rio less
As god intended
you also do the io doesn't matter until they disagree with you and then you gotta pull "doesn't even play the game"
and if they do play the game
you just find some streamer that does higher content
and point at them and go "but they said differently and you don't play the game"
gotta just find the bigger fish
until you win the argument
Thats how someone nearly got banned by me on our guild discord
Bro buttlicking dorki
All day every day
came for sin tips left with life advice 
isnāt this what you did to me for ten months
Damn
normal player comes asking for advice? Well I'm a heroic raider so I know better. Well I'm a mythic raider so I know better. Well I'm a CE player so I know better. Well I'm a 300WR player so I know better. Well I'm HoF so I know better. Well I'm top 50 so I know better. Well I'm top 10 so I know better. Well I'm RWF so I know better.
Did he hit you with that "look at that Whispyr streamer guy, he says xyz"?
Yeah
Was rough time
Until it escalates
And the guy gets hit with a "you dont even have a job mf"

Good old irl shaming
Hey itās me exile
Yeah Riley. You could get all the hoes
Google didnt disappoint
On topic 
yo is SB meant to play any differently to the VV/DS build, I'm spending most of the time in a fight below 50% energy anyway to keep envenom rolling so just curious
they play the same except you don't have to try to be under 50%
I hate trying
sameeeeeee
yeah i looked at breakdown and it was 2% or something
so swapped to CT for ethical padding 
you mean for boss damage
I mean no meme
i'm still topping ST so it's fine
Bcs of the target scaling
I mean you can maintain I guess if you want but just press with adds is fine
based
What flask are y'all using?
the chaos one
orange
True
toilet beer clears both
wtf is going on
itās guaranteed
?????
You have space
how the fuck are you drinking
Thats a 9.5/10
that you get shower water in your beer
On the disgusting scale
guys my bath water is getting in my beer can i'm dunking under water it's all soapy and gross now help me
do you guys have such spacious showers that you have room to drink and not get water in it?
big ballers
People with small showers smh my head
4m²

Itās a grower! Not a shower! (My shower)
thatās huge wtf
this guy could fit a whole bar in his shower
Iām being obtuse
I'm being obese
Big bathroom is important imo. Like the biggest rooms are living room with 20, bathroom with 19 and my kitchen is like
23 or something
sqm3?
m2
ya i get this but that's essentially what subterfuge was before we got it baseline ye?
before it was baked into imp gar
I think so yeah
ye i just have no idea what im talking about 
Well kitchen has a table for 8 people, living room is what I use for visits aswell and big bathrooms are great. Bedroom is ~18m2 but that one could be smaller
are you 100% sure lol idk if iāve ever been in a bathroom that big in my life and ive seen big ones
itās bigger than many master bedrooms
18m2 isn't that big is it
Well its the floor size, it has a sloping roof on one side starting at like half the height
Wouldnt call myself wealthy, its just build that way. I have 174ish m2 in total which is fairly average for houses at the area
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I learned to appreciate it more after having to shower in the bathtub under the sloping roof
Because my shower didnt work

I mean effectively its still less actually usable shower space because of the risk of spilling water everywhere and the range of the shower head
is APL wrong or do we crimson tempest on ST too?
I think the only thing I ever dank while showering was a monster

Buff envenom by 100 percent
uhm , good morning, i returned from my weird warlock fetisch that was present for 1 month. i did made nice WA for my rogue and stuff.. but i noticed, there is a talent at deathstalkers mark that is not working correctly, am i right ?
!lag
Significant WA lag
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Its a marginal gain in ST with momentum of despair
Blizzard has announced that Zekvir's Lair will no longer count towards the Great Vault with the Weekly Reset.
we do CT in ST now O-O
if you want to track momentum of despair
To use fok
i dunno about "we" 
im completely out of the rotations
And need to crit that to use CT
Which one do you mean tho
uhh
M+ bosses
the one who gives 30% nature dmg if it decays
Ovinax
Its the deathmark CD
is it buggy ?
Ewww
anything else i should gun for? or am i done
deadeye
Crystal
taxes
or void contract
wait
oh 
p sure deadeye > sac but your sim will know
nvm then
Crystal sims highest for me either way and its not even close. Gotta sim sac, dead eye and crystal
said sac was higher by 6k ish
i hate it but
well sac has 3 ilvl more
i sim at max. but yea
how do we fight with this kyrian dipsht now ?
the white sword thingi that lets us use 3/4/5 cps as 7
ah its called echo
echoing reprimand
Im sad for all of the 3 people that still filled their heroic vault slots from delves

if you land on one of the cps it acts like 7
thatās it, just send finishers with them if you land on it
It was good for alts
uh.. so our new opener sequence ?
I filled 2 alts vaults this week in less than an hour
................... 
It was also good for alts to actually do the bountiful delves instead of using zekvirs lair
apply DSM, apply bleeds, apply caustic, send cooldowns
Way more time consuming to farm keys
4 keys are like 10 min
henlooo whispyr daddy

blizzard just hates that people interact with content I guess
And then 80 minutes for the delves
hi
blizzard had the option to have people just run 8 zekvir
or people don't do delves at all
With actual loot you might not get in m+ on a fresh alt
Instead of just doing 8 zekvir in 30 minutes and actually getting a vault I just wonāt play alts now
so its ambush , bleeds, caustic kingsbane combo. use echo before that ir after kb ?
Not everyone wants to jump into m+ at 560 ilvl
before i think
Did you really still do them 
ok
i still do delves, iām part mole person tho
They said theyāre tuning delve trinkets again what if they make one busted
i may have run this place 46 times this week on my rogue š
i was one of those 3. loli also filled raid slots too but meh
They should fix the concoction one
i havenāt outgeared tier 10/11 yet so it was relatively engaging for bountifuls
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bro i'm not good
send help
(needed valor stones)
and it was the most efficient time to valorstone farm ratio
Is it?
25 valor stones for less than 2 minutes work
25 valorstones for 1minute of farming
in and out is another 30 seconds
you can hit instance cap in like 20 minutes
THIS IS HOW BLIZZARD INTENDED US TO FARM VALORSTONES
Sounds decent I guess, but I only ran out of stones yesterday, dont have crests anymore either tho
im constantly out of stones
always something to upgrade
upgrading weap cost 1k
got some new trinkets as well
need some later as well to upgrade new myth track gear
i dunno man im just always short
short king
Do we use clear the witnesses instead of mutilate when itās up during death mark/kings bane window?
š©³
I did have some raid items to save stuff tho
apparently i have farmed 20k valorstones
Still only at 625
this expac

Do you have a tracker for that 
Only if youāre not running vv
wow audit sheet
Vv?
for guild
Vicious venom (talent)

uh... can i show my WA , can u tell if its too overloaded
i got told its too fancy
1st place is on 30k
Does it count capped valor
dont think so
otherwise some other guy would be way higher
the guy on 1st has like 4 gear sets since he also tanks
Should be around that aswell then I guess
Is it relevant to assassination or is it #wow-general
its assassination o.o
Since I have 1.5 sets of gear
yeah i have like 2.5
Yeah itās relevant
sooo... ?
you are welcome
The day I willingly dabble in outlaw will be the day I let them lock me up
Why do people play sub over sin in raid? ST?
terrible marketing
the first one is the idle one, the second one is when stuff is active
You need to hit them with the "I like Frogs :3" as your message
All those 20 people probably just like sub or its for Silken court
Or killtimer on heroic
because sin in ST is for boring ass boomers who need to stretch their hands for 5 seconds every minute during downtime when pooling
wait shit im in the wrong channel
don't lie you meant to send this here
did i hear froggos
i did 
I had 95% envenom uptime. Itās really not that slow tbh
I like it except for like 5bars that donāt need to be there. Makes it too confusing to glance at in a fight
it is a bit much, but at the same time if it's fine for you
then who cares
How much haste does everyone have ?
gotta look at shit you wanna look at
Tell her KING

what bars u would delere @west crown
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
Like 8%, which is totally irrelevant tho
and thanks for feedback already
Yeah you see, you'd invite me wouldn't u
My absolutely irrelevant number is 14%
Itās rough out here
yes 
Where is grue located?
Iām taking out thistle tea and I donāt understand why there is a second yellow bar and the blue bar in the middle
Alright because when I sim myself it calls for haste gems with mastery Iām playing deathstalkers so makes sense since it says wants more mastery and haste
Sims dont lie either way
Ik babe
one yellow is energy, the other is slice and dice, the blue is the duration of echo, and the thistle tea has no bar o.o i have that only for an aid to see when to use stuff so kb gets full buff uptime
does Numbing Poison work on ZekVir
If the sims lie, its because Whispyr wants to manipulate us into thinking what the result suggests, so he can control our minds in pursuit of ruling the world
id show my details but its being weird. is 3 minutes sustain 2.5M dps on dummies decent?
but i do believe i dont need an bar for snd ? and the duration if echo is also not needed cause u use it usually as soon as possible no ?
Well SnD is becoming passive in 11.0.5 and I feel like echo can be seen with the marks on 3,4,5 CP and the bar is irrelevant because I never find myself timing out before consuming them
this is a dumb question but on the stat prio its "Agility >> Critical Strike = Mastery >= Haste > Versatility". Agility is obviously the best then critical strike = mastery, but I don't really understand the mastery and haste part. Mastery is greater than or equal to haste, but wouldn't that also mean its the same as crit? So crit/mastery/haste are the same?

wait

snd goes passive ?
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
I always sim I'm just trying to understand the equation, linking it another time doesnt solve that haha. thank you anyways davyn
dont worry about the equation
you generally awnt to stack crit and mastery
but after a while you stop wanting to stack crit
and haste rises in value
but at the same time
If you want the track CD and when to vanish for imp garr
stats mean so little to assi
you definitely need to track dm
on the right side i have dm icon +bar which indicates duration. gonna delete that also ?
why tho 
In aoe without indiscriminate charge do we spread rupture or spam envenom with caustic
rupture to 5
Both
Even without scent of blood?
I donāt track DM because if you line it up with KB correctly they end at the same time pretty much. But if you need it
You are doing the wrong talents if you donāt have Scent in aoe soā¦
Well Iām talking about like mythic ulgrax where you run tempest but not indiscriminate
i do need to track DSM right ?
Thatās what all the top 100 logs do
So Iām talking about in the add part of that fight
Snipe for energy with rupture on 1 or 2 but spatter and CT will do more
Okay thank u greatly

Sorry Iām still learnin
All g
But vanish on adds to apply
well i dont need , ill use 7cp combos anyway
Just donāt prio outside of vanish cd
I use hekili but it almost never tells me to use fan of knives in m+, is there a reason for this or is it just wrong?
I thought at 2+ targets it was good to
3
isnt it two with the new talent
No
Regardless, it doesnt tell me to use it even at 3
idk hekili sux
I've seen people even use it on 1 target cuz of that bait talent
auto
but it is bad that it isnt right, I should probably stop using it
its not accurate
Thank you

its okish to get an idea how the rota works in general "if u are smart to read it correctly" bit its not accurate so better start learning without it
Assa rota really aint that deep
Does anyone have a good resource they recommend to learn the APL?
Harder than my WW was š¦
Your rota is build combopoints
Wait for envenom debuff to almost be done and envenom repeat
Half the time i just bedge on st
and spend them
u need 100% uptime bleed and rest is to spam envenome right before it runs out
QUESTION for m+'ers what's the difference of choice between regular AoE and doing more of a funnel type rotation in a pull... does it matter on # of adds and if so what's your sweetspot?
Wdym
It isnt bait tho
2 with deathstalker and thrown precision
It is cuz i see people use fok in 1 target cuz of that talent
funnel rotation to focus more on caustic on a high prio add and using your combo points to focus more into one add while still doing aoe, or are you just going ham with aoe in general and using spenders as they come
Clear the witnesses yeah
Because thats right
If you dont have VV
Its not tho
It is
It is
uh
It does less dmg than multilate and cant proc ambush
do we burst kb combo when we dont have vanish ?
Why would i fok on 1 target
because of clear the witnesses proc..
Becauseā¦. It does more damage?
How are you doing your math
i press fok because it does funny sound and swoosh animation 
I've legit stood on target dummies and it does less
Hey did you see the changes.
Pins
FOK delas mire st than mutilate ?
The news ones
Yes, pins
We are strictly talking about specific talent setups and using it on one proc
What does that do?
what key level does the hybrid build start to do better dps?
Pre spread bleeds and funnel, let caustic do your cleave and youāll be fine. Reapply bleeds as needed
@balmy condor I clicked the pins my b
Always use it
ah
sometimes i'm just fk as and rupt then switch until i have 5 ruptures then i chill funnelling into one with whomever got caustic on it, you're saying that's right yeah?
i mean your aoe rotation is envenom
though i may not be garroting enough.... outside of from stealth
You dont really spread garr outside of IC
In aoe
Garrote main priority target for sure if no stealth
yeah i just leave them on the 3 targets then focus on rupture
yep okay ty
You only garr your main target
Keep scent stacks maxed with rupture
And keep up ct
Else its just spattering MT
Also mb forgot I've been playing VV all season no wonder my multilate did more dmg lmfao
bro I was about to cook your ass so hard
I was on paragraph 5 mathing it out
with vv its bait
One could tell just by you not answering before to take a deep breath and then typing for a minute straight

I mean they're idiots what happens
..> I gotta make sure i'm not fk'ing when i have VV oh boy
Just starting H Queen prog, any tips?
sweat
Just dont spec VV 5head
I just have it cuz it does same/similar dmg to other builds and i dislike the others
Nono st
90% of these bosses spawn ads anyways so U'd wanna fok with proc
rarely even 1 target
shadowmeld doesnt activate indiscriminate carnage?
It does not
that'd be wild
Seeing lots of top parses run shrouded suffocation instead of dashing scoundrel, up to like 80% on some fights. Thoughts? Concerns?
equivalent talents are equal
There's like
8 talents you can change around as you like and it does like the same dmg
WHY AM I BEING SCREEN SHOTTED
I was a Hekili enjoyer for about 5 days to just get even remoted started on retail buttons, but its a huge hindrance to actually understand the finer details. Only gotten better since disabling it.
You and every other heroic guild
Be happy you didnt get shot
Rupture the roots for energy back
if you can do that before your fury warriors go brrr
For mentioning hekili in out sacred halls
it does if you can activate stealth after casting shadowmeld eg. on trash
but idk, sometimes it just doesn't work for whatever reason
Prep combo points for an caustic envenom right when roots spawn
preferably with Darkest night

has the need for doing tyrannical and fortified for each dungeon gone now for rating? is it just based off highest number completion?
no even better
Yes, at 10+ every week is fort+tyran
ahh i see, makes sense. i guess the xalatath affix is whats controlling the push weeks
next weeks affix sounds comfy? idk
Outside of 11 -> 12, whatās the worst jump in difficulty. Iām only starting to feel it at 8 -> 9
M+
no, because at 12 or higher the xalatath affix just doubles tyran/fort
9 to 10
every week is push week
9>10 prob cuz its tyran and fort
but holy fuck going from 11s to 12
just shoot me
lejit
11's are fine but i aint going into 12's again unless sm1 pays my rep costs after that dungeon
and thearpy
ooh interesting. i mean pleb push weeks are sorta controlled by the affix though right lol. like it would have been easier to push to 12 for your first time with an "easier" bargain
Stolen from r/wow, our relevancy is nice !
sure I guess
is it really a push
if it's like
vault keys?
delete aug
im just a humble rogue my friend, our definition of push are different :((
as someone mentioned in the comments, those 14 keys are literally like 2-3 groups
10/11 is the only relevant part of that picture
yeah for sure
anything above 12 and up* is a niche crowd. up at 14 i think 50% of ALL data is the same party of 5?
yeah like 4-5 partys that have done 14's
Oh yeah that ss reminds me
I need that for vault okay
I didnt do my weekly delves yet for my trinket on hero track
Pushing with the hidden 5 set tech
I love delving ...

Just spam zekvir before the patch comes out
Any advice for H Queen?
whispyr I thought the chest has bad stats why chest which slot bad which slot do we drop for stats whispyr 5 set secret?
you can step the intermission yoink
That sounds like something that really happens
Ngl
anything else idk open wowhead
just step before you get dragged of cuz u cant do it when you fall off
or like while you get yoinked ig
heroic void reapers last night 
good enough for now kek
oh no this reminds me of that dispell guy in sanctum
where you had to step before you went off the plaform but the auto assigner thing always put me on the outside and i sucked at it
Why not
Yeah id probably Bench myself for that
I'm not saying your wrong
I'm just saying you could
Stand in swirlies to make it seem worth? idk
It really isn't procing that much
this was 5 min fight
Just say you were trying to pre-immune a mechanic
this is a strange way to explain it
the only thing that stops your step is being off the platform
you can press it at any point during the pull if the platform is still below you
yeye all good
i get u

u can give urself a lot of space or a little based on how sick u are 
vanishing/cloaking the web thing p1 is good too
Its hc just dont fall down and u kill, sac the dmg
Yeah but they on hc ansurek prog not farm
I mean yeah stepping for sure
just like dont stand on the add thats on the edge
cuz that shit is close af
the other ones are rly just like
when r u gonna use vanish outside of that
or cloak
Well i did cuz i have cancer and accidently used darkest night when we broke p1 shield so i didnt have dsm
So i needed my vanish lmfao
I just let my fury warrior have fun
ya itās not super relevant but it feels good in ur brain
Time to racechange to gnome for the roots
ew
I mean yeah ofcourse im joking
garbage race
think its 5 xdd
void elf / panda bis
As someone playing m+ i disagree

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People hate gnomes here too huh lol

I am really hoping ansurek roots get giga nerfed before my guild reaches it
Melding to kill my tms in m+ is an option too
the changes go live on reset this week yeah?
If I gotta play gnome on ansurek 
yo yo fellow assassins... any of you have a good Sin plater profile you can share?
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Is there a way to check the ver of the plater profile I imported idk when the last time I grabbed it?
ayo so for broodtwister mythic should I be looking to rupture 2 mobs on add spawns
just for follow the blud
What are you thicc rogues doing for overall in 10-11keys? Iām somewhere between 1.2M-1.5m just curious where yāall land
oh wait yeah im dumb, thanks
What ilevel are ya? Iām 622
625
damn how yall be grinding that high
wow mythic raider
Which single target build is best? On logs, I am seeing builds with and without vicious venoms/improved garrote/sanguine blades. Does it depend on the fight?
If the builds sim very close for me is there one preferred? For easier gameplay or ability to cleave, perhaps.
if you want easy go for no shrouded
why does the first boss in grim batol always eat my capstone
when the fight ends

ive tried having the capstone or marks left on him when he dies
Thank you. That was slightly winning for me anyway.
How do you open on Rashanan? Everytime I try to do this fight, when I start my opener I get the web and have to run out and if I hold my opener, I don't get the mechanic and I just delete my opener. How do people approach this? Ignore the mechanic and hit the boss anyway? Heroic raid.
You just play like youāre not gonna get it and if you do oh well parse next week
Well you shouldnt need to run out regardless
Just run far to either side while still being in range
For sure. I'm just not gonna run it out lmao.
Well, as far as Im going I mean.
No one else is even in melee but me.
its a small af raid.
I thought I saw Slice and Dice was going to become passively triggered by rupture somewhere, but can't find it.
Am I dreaming? When?
Yup and Feint off GCD, thank god.
Ahhh, gotcha. Thank you! Sorry, new to the class.
anything with follow the blood hero talent?
Canāt follow the words but can follow the blood. Smh my head
hi does anyone know what ability is represented by this picture?
Hello, is arakara trinket better than crystal? to me, crystal sims better but i see that noone uses it
Trust sim
Idk about your situation but Iām getting benched if I stay in with webs just to do dps
Just pray you donāt get it or hold until first web goes off
never seen that icon before in my life
is that even from wow?
ayeah
I think the trinket from Vault of the Wardens used that icon
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decent trinkets till i get more heroic kills?
Thatās how I feel on heroic queen⦠apparently itās impossible for some people to dodge shit or listen to directions
Yeah these are fine
hey do you guys have any recommendations on any addons/weakaura's to tame all the big numbers from the combat text?
feel like it takes up so much of the UI
i think i have those turned off, or uh, if you like them miks scrolling battle text
oh no mine are on but set to size 9
thats a good point, ill try play around with the sizing
do u mean big numbers above mobs upon dmg recieved?
Got my first pulls on broodtwister prog and good lord does this fight just absolutely blow
are the ulgrax mobs tricksable?
yes
Both Hero Talents are viable in all content, and are within 2-5% of each other.
Fatebound: Instant damage, is easy to play, can remove some buttons from the rotation, little to no added gameplay
Deathstalker: Introduces gameplay, Singular focus adds big priority damage, suffers from bugs and marks being hard to juggle in easy content like heroic/m0 dungeons
Itās very comfy brain off
its lit just swapping ER for cold blood right?
ST fatebound dont use echo o.o ?
was playing with a deathstalker sin rogue the other day when i was fatebound, he had 50% more envenom damage than me with very similar gear, and i had slightly more envenom casts
idk was talking about m+
the st guide doesnt use it at leas o.o
and the secon tree has no energy regen from crit posion hits in it ?
Fatebound doesn't take echo because it wants to take cold blood due to the support for cold blood in the fatebound tree
Is it possible to kill zekvir at ?? as assa?
how far ahead of follow the blood is momentum of despair?
tons of peeps have done it yeah
some of us did it like week 2? 3? w/e
There was some sort of Brann abuse
you can still do it
Yea
!up
any suggestions for a weakaura or tellmewhen for tracking darkest night? i did see the WA list, but with so many links im not sure where to check specifically for just that
man fuck the amount of nameplates on this boss
which one
the first one
im really bad when i have a lot of plates in front of me,
whispyrs edit does it nicely if you want a full class pack thing
which is why i never even tried to play ass in keys till this xpac
im really just looking for darkest night specifically
i have one i made for me but it's probably gonna look jank in your setup
nvm 
idk you could prolly just yoink it out of any pack
and copypaste to ur own shit
never used wa before really, so just trying to figure things out
I encourage you to open up the menu /wa, and click on New Aura, then select Template
That will walk you through creating a basic Aura, which you can then study and use to understand some of the very basics
The thing you're asking to track is very simple and will be doable via template pretty quickly.
The entire system can be daunting at first but it's rewarding once you see how it all fits together.
gotcha, thanks for the advice!
As always you can ask if you get stuck, or as stated if you cba to do any of this just take from an existing pack
i generally cba which is why i suggested that 
so what im trying to do is make a weakaura that will play a sound when darkest night is up, and a different sound when darkest night isnt up and mark isnt up on any target. is that something i can do?
ur gonna enjoy broodtwister then
Sure is. That's a bit more complex than what a template will walk you through doing but it's absolutely something you could do with just a couple of triggers and some conditions.
Keep in mind for your second sound, if neither mark nor darkest night are up, that's a persistent condition not really tied to anything so you may need to think about exactly when you want such a sound to play. Entering combat? Only playing once when you attack? Etc.
On my pack, I have my icon showing for Mark/Darkest night, and when neither are active I have it activate a bright red glow which stays active, but only when I'm in combat.
couldnt that cause an issue though? because you dont enter combat until stealth is broken right?
in which case you cant ambush at that point
a lot more
sure, but thats a pretty suboptimal use of vanish
Yes, but as Fim says, the point of the red is to yell at me to tell me I done fucked up, and it's time to vanish
no it's not a suboptimal use of vanish
it is in fact teh most optimal use of vanish at that given time
Given the power available that Mark provides you, it's a very appropriate use of vanish.
It wouldn't happen ideally
im legit not sure if there's a setting i could do that makes mine less cancer or if i just have to get good
getting access to your entire hero talent tree would not be suboptimal yea
sorry i meant in the larger scheme of things. yeah, like you say - not an ideal situation
would i be able to have the sound just play once when mark/night are both down?
Yes
Though that applies like
When you're sitting in town right?
for the hybrid build, what would you drop to take twist the knife?
So that's why I have the In Combat condition
could see that being awkward. couldnt have it only do that in a dungeon? and if not and its only playing once, i wouldnt get spammed right?
yeah okay so i can do that
Yup, you can also do that, have it only active or load in certain zones or types of zones
wait maybe i need this weak aura
i already see text calling msyelf a monkey
in my head
when i do the rotation wrong
dont need a wa for it

parse fueled by self hatred
so with what im trying to do here, how hard is it for me to start learning how to do that with a weakaura?
Are you trying to think for 11.0.5 or just to play differently
about a 3
trying to think for 11.0.5
seems like twist might be worth?
think about your question though, how are we supposed to answer it
or am I trolling
probably improved poisons
or a lethal dose if youre 2/2 on that
lethal dose is too good to drop prob
logically it's not a very hard task
you just set up two conditions
and then triggers based on them
what else would you drop though
also if you need help - the WA discord is useful
ironwire? 
probably nothing
2 stack twist might just be ass for keys then?
delete this before whispyr sees it
i dont think going 1/2 lethal dose instead of 2/2 for twist would be terrible
Master assassin for 12 seconds is gonna be better than twist. You heard it here first
The only thing I could think to do would be run twist and master assassin, drop amp and tempered and grab the stealth upgrades on the other tree if itās actually good enough
I'll just say what you're asking to do is a very straightforward thing. It's not a trivial aura, but it's also not very complex either. The actual difficulty of learning to get there is based on factors that lie with you, it's a learning curve and I can appreciate that. Fim gave you some hints at it already, you can also ask here, I'm typically around and I make these things very frequently and am happy to provide support. WA discord is also an option for support
thanks, appreciate all the advice, from fim too š
real q is would stacking env be better than LD]
you got this mate
that's interesting! guess we'll honestly just have to wait and see with sims
i mean in raid you would just drop sbs
if it helps as well - take a look at some of the pre existing weak auras
i will see what i can do on my own, and seek further help if i cant after ive actually tried
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
fast ramping kingsbane makes me bricked up ngl

all of them do what you want to a certain extent
just probably not the out of combat part
Honestly you could probably just take mine and find the place where it does the red glow, and add on top of that a sound action. Can also add an extra trigger to that for Dungeon location etc. Though, as you stated you should try it yourself first
yeah i did consider that. i just dont want to be completely illiterate. i will def be asking for yours if i cant figure it out, but i wont get anywhere if i just expect everything to be handed to me
based
i like trying out new things. the other day i tried a no stealth sin build for keys where i removed every single talent that had a stealth benefit
worst idea ever. but i had to try it

it was as bad as you think it is

i also tried a build in dragonflight without venemous wounds for a meme. and i believe its the one case where whispyr is wrong where you WOULDNT use amp poison when talented into it
amp poison
at that point ur just gonna have standard sin but with no ic im guessing
something like the broodtwister build
there we are, 0 stealth interactions
yep thats actually what i was running
huh, didn't think of that - thanks for the reply king 
it felt awful
it probably didnt help i was doing a +5 though
i was too scared of trying it in a +10 and getting flamed
i wanna ask if everyone's nameplates are as bouncy as mine but im absolutely gonna get flamed
Mine are absolutely very bouncy
@slate crown triggering a sound was pretty simple. got that sussed for my darkest night part (havent gotten to the next one yet) is there a way to change the volume of the sound being played, or do i need to edit the mp3 im using for custom sound itself to change it before using it?
This tracks
part of me wants to make them smaller but i feel like ill start missing shit in keys cuz i got a lot of mouseover stuff

also dont pay attention to what i was actually doing in game cuz i was trying to get this clip to go

yeah that looks right
Yeah there's a limitation there with controlling volume. A way to control this is to select a different sound channel for the sound to play on, and you can adjust each sound channel separately in the main sound settings of the game.
You definitely can produce a quiet/louder source sound though, that would work, assuming you know how to modify sound files (I do not).
But when a sound itself plays there's not an individual volume slider on that sound play instance
i cant imagine itd be particularly difficult. i know how to do it in a very roundabout way
its just a pita
I know nothing about media manipulation outside of the game
But yes, once you have a custom file you can play it with a custom file path
found a super easy quick mp3 editor online, so wasnt too hard
can anyone help me with my ST sim? it feels extremely low
idk if my gear is bad or what
link
yes this is for m+
and your higher ilvl dagger is in the wrong hand
and you don't have anything enchanted
or gemmed

my stitchflesh is 613 and in my main hand
Everything wrong, is wrong
is that the wrong hand?
that's weird on the simc copy paste it shows up as 613









