we want ilvl
#assassination
normal mist
strange python
I dont Like having an additional Thing to Look at with echoing reprimant
azure flare
I dont Like having an additional Thing to Look at with echoing reprimant
id say to get used to it tbh
strange python
So am i far worse when i Pick Lethality 2/2
azure flare
will help into anniversary patch as well
normal mist
sim it
azure flare
So am i far worse when i Pick Lethality 2/2
yes
quite a few %
now that they bugfixed it
if u dont care about being optimal it doesnt matter
jade zenith
I come back to this discord after weeks and the first thing I see is a Xal'atath sexy pic
azure flare
if u care about performance then it does
young dust
I dont Like having an additional Thing to Look at with echoing reprimant
seems like your UI isnt optimized for ER
normal mist
I come back to this discord after weeks and the first thing I see is a Xal'atath...
where?!
normal mist
i missed it
cobalt sphinx
Yeah it’s fine if you don’t think you can use ER
young dust
its very easy to see ER on some combo bars
strange python
seems like your UI isnt optimized for ER
I See it
keen spruce
digital sigil
slate crown
i missed it
normal mist
IM
azure flare
literally scroll wheel twice
oh shit thanks fam
strange python
Guess i need to get into Rotation more
normal mist
GOING
slate crown
shit that's the wrong direction
strange python
Kinda complicated to Play it right
normal mist
7 SCROLLS UP
keen spruce
Royal and missing very recent posts. name a more iconic duo
digital sigil
It's at least 7.5 scrolls
normal mist
IT WAS 7 NOT 2
azure flare
fr
young dust
like this, its very clear the 3 green combo points in the middle
azure flare
had to scroll FOREVER
keen spruce
IT WAS 7 NOT 2
maybe your mouse is bad
normal mist
LOL
pliant remnant
Back to DK, right?
strange python
man doesnt like cheap 7* point finishers
When you get above the echoing reprimant Combo Point Bonus its fucked, but Sometimes our spells crit and u get more cp
Always calculating this shit
worldly sail
just pin the xalatath pic so we dont have to scroll 
young dust
twist the knife on that feet
boreal epoch
R34 has a fair bit of spicy content of that sort if people like that 😂
slate crown
When you get above the echoing reprimant Combo Point Bonus its fucked, but Somet...
There's no calculating. You just use it if you get it, if you don't you don't
You have 45 seconds to hit them
boreal epoch
How’s this rogue buff looking number wise - my smooth brain can’t understand the actual impact
slate crown
It is rare, in my experience, that you don't get them
and even if you don't, it's not a big deal
boreal epoch
<:pins:433007514825523202>
blissful cosmos
when playing Sanguine Stratagem it says our finishing moves more then 5 combo points does increase damage do we just need to get to 5 or does it become effective at 5?
balmy condor
deeper/sanguine strat is a flat buff to all finishers
you need to get to 5 for your hero talents to have any effect so that kinda helps
blissful cosmos
alright thank you
so we always do our finishers at 5 or is there any beneifit of going above
of course if we have a darkest night we go above
i know that
dusty zenith
siming myself and it says i should enchant my rings with haste and use haste gems...
balmy condor
you don't wanna generate past 5
dusty zenith
is ther such thing as too much mastery and crit?
blissful cosmos
alright
balmy condor
siming myself and it says i should enchant my rings with haste and use haste gem...
what's wrong with that?
haste is a good stat, sim says you should get more
balmy condor
sadly yes but raidbots has done a good job hiding it so people don't use it
maybe 11.1 they'll finally delete it
blissful cosmos
i know alot of rogues happy assa geting single target buffed
balmy condor
and we'll be free
dusty zenith
I did run it and it also said haste would be more gains right now
balmy condor
nice waste of time
mystic osprey
maybe 11.1 they'll finally delete it
What's up with this
latent badger
yo sorry if I'm not meant to dump pics here, I'm new to rog this xpac, just did a 20m sit at dummy and I'm sitting 80k dps below sim. I messed up a couple kingsbane windows but I think this dmg breakdown looks about right? and 4/20 kingsbanes being a couple casts off shouldn't equate to that much loss or should it?
I'm pooling for envenom uptime as much as I can in downtime windows but might be a bit off on that
latent badger
sitting in call chatting w friends ye
it's my go-to downtime brainless shit
commit to muscle memory ykno
west crown
Skill issue
balmy condor
simming 20 minutes is dedication
runic hinge
Dummy shoulda parried you at least once. Try again
neon thunder
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keen spruce
80k below sim doesn't seem like that much
blissful cosmos
bro i hit the dummys 24/7
keen spruce
what are you simmin at?
latent badger
640k vs 720k
blissful cosmos
not even lieing
spiral gale
Does your sim include consumes?
latent badger
n
spiral gale
Oh nvm
west crown
720 is like 590
balmy condor
no buff no zold no nothin
west crown
Not unreasonable
balmy condor
I mean without a log have no idea what you could be doing wrong
but you can just compare to your sim breakdown idk
keen spruce
feral silo
Hello, got a question
there's a trash mob at NW before 3rd boss
wo doing this
how can i survive that shit, if cos is cd xD
feral silo
it was second spew xD
west crown
Feint, pots
keen spruce
i feel like if he feinted
he woulda had that in the screen shot
so i don't htink he feinted
west crown
Overheal the overkill
neon thunder
vanish it and kill your teammate instead XD
feral silo
nope didn't feint, it's a single target ability no?
boreal epoch
vanish it and kill your teammate instead XD
This guy fcks
keen spruce
inb4 "feint doesn't work on that ability"
then we say "use elus"
runic hinge
Take elusiveness
balmy condor
prefire the angle
keen spruce
keen spruce
I played 2 ranked matches since it came out
west crown
Hell even evasion would work
keen spruce
at this rate i'll be placed before 2030
keen spruce
bitch i'm stylish
bottom DPS most deaths billie eilish
balmy condor
Hell even evasion would work
this is the real tech
keen spruce
I'm trying to diet again but they started selling eggnog
winged sun
Hi friends
royal lantern
nope didn't feint, it's a single target ability no?
you play elusivness in dungeons
keen spruce
you play elusivness in dungeons
🦥
sonic zinc
zeross just read the notes
sonic zinc
!
balmy condor
keen spruce
looks like nerfs to me 
balmy condor
straight buffs
winged sun
keen spruce
zeross will click all the way over to assas chat before clickin on pins in his own home
winged sun
Outlaw still wont be played tho
sonic zinc
zeross has no home
lean meteor
No he’s right…any time this shit company starts messing with numbers start learning sub…been like this since shadowlands
keen spruce
Outlaw still wont be played tho <:Zerossthinking:1100799833150861372>
woxic and ci are still playin pirate
seems okay
balmy condor
wtf you guys yapping about
strange python
No he’s right…any time this shit company starts messing with numbers start learn...
strange python
Hey sub got buffed
strange python
35% bp damage
sonic zinc
well that makes sense, since u use bp as filler to delay coup, so it needs some more damage to make it less feels bad to press in st
winged sun
Outlaw rly needed those buffs
midnight mist
<@352916297262301194> explain
what ?
midnight mist
i just told you assa also got buffed
timid vale
I’m just saying it’s coming
midnight mist
what do you want you noob
winged sun
hi zac
midnight mist
hi zero
cunning basin
What the fuck are we getting invaded rn
cunning basin
Who are you people
cunning basin
...fair enough
midnight mist
oh no he knows
winged sun
have u been livin under a rock zeross
Ya
royal lantern
35% bp damage <:OMEGAKEKW:829051106361344021>
mate
the thing is
thats a ST buff for sub, not aoe
keen spruce
i like it when zeross and zac come in here
i don't get to see the stinky pirates that much
royal lantern
and makes BP on ST stronger
strange python
mate
the thing is
thats a ST buff for sub, not aoe
I know
royal lantern
sub and trickster are so cursed
sonic zinc
yea i just said that
royal lantern
its mindblowing
strange python
I thought makes it pretty obvious
sonic zinc
read this 
strange python
Sub buffs
Yeah they did buff sub indeed, it’s a 0.2% gain in single target
By buffing black powder
winged sun
Also now why is mage getting buffed 
strange python
It’s great
cunning basin
keen spruce
royal lantern
Also now why is mage getting buffed <a:AINTNOWAY:1050211099158511626>
frostfire is bad
like, REALLY bad
its unplayable rn
cunning basin
to 1.35% of damage
That's like adding 5 mins of fatal intent stacks onto it kinda op if u think about it
royal lantern
so they wanna make it actually a option
lament stump
sub needs luv ❤️
winged sun
@midnight mist what are u doing
strange python
Crafting daggers probably
royal lantern
the #1 stupid Part is
why do they NERF holy paladin
cunning basin
royal lantern
like???????
winged sun
Crafting daggers probably
good one
royal lantern
hpal is allready mid AT BEST
cunning basin
Holy clearly too good as shown by every top guild running double pres and the pres doing 50% more healing than the other healers
royal lantern
and they nerf lol
keen spruce
hpal is allready mid AT BEST
did you see BM hunter
actual orbital laser
to that spec
midnight mist
<@352916297262301194> what are u doing
its 4am buddy
cunning basin
BM hunter
keen spruce
they're losing 9% ST
cunning basin
its 4am buddy
Prime jorkin hours
winged sun
you are a weirdo so
???
royal lantern
did you see BM hunter <:FeelsLUL:356569117974724608>
DH
nobody wants to play the shity "throw glaive lol" tree
and they giga buff it lol
midnight mist
both trees are real boring ngl
cunning basin
But demonsurge
royal lantern
demonic is boring, aldrachi is fatebounds levels of stupid
cunning basin
Surely that makes it cool or whatever
keen spruce
remember how excited everyone was about frostfire thematically
royal lantern
making a "hero tree" that is "throw glaive"
keen spruce
and how Pog everyone was getting on it
royal lantern
bruh
keen spruce
slate crown
I never liked throw glaive
cunning basin
ReAvEr's gLaiVE
slate crown
as a rotational ability
cunning basin
Pressing throw glaive ever sucks ass
keen spruce
there's like 3 DHs in the world that like throw glaive
imagine they made poison knife rotational for rogue
cunning basin
Havoc shouldn't even have it
keen spruce
what was the old finisher
royal lantern
imagine they made poison knife rotational for rogue <:OMEGAKEKW:8290511063613440...
you mean the first 3 weeks of BfA? 
cunning basin
Literally just heroic throw, can u imagine the 15 warriors that would be fuming if one of their hero trees was about heroic throw
faint path
Omg did they seriously buff us
vestal coyote
Probably a stupid question but adding gems in now and should I run an amber to maximize diamond affect or na? Stam seems pretty lame but not sure if it is worth it. I could sim it if that is the answer but if there is an easy answer I'd appreciate it
cunning basin
Omg did they seriously buff us
Yes
faint path
Lmao we were already powerful
royal lantern
Probably a stupid question but adding gems in now and should I run an amber to m...
the answer really is "yeha, you sim it"
keen spruce
Probably a stupid question but adding gems in now and should I run an amber to m...
I'm like 99.99% sure it's not worth
but idk
royal lantern
assa/outlaw do good dungeon aoe, and thats it
keen spruce
don't tell M+ers that
cunning basin
Niche at best for damage profile
keen spruce
they all think rogue is OP
royal lantern
dungeon bosses? lol
raid? lol
faint path
Idk most of the keys Im was top dps 9-10 keys
cunning basin
I mean
winged sun
assa/outlaw do good dungeon aoe, and thats it
@midnight mist someone is spreading fake news about outlaw
How does outlaw do good aoe now
cunning basin
My 604 enh shaman is also top DPS in most of my 6 and 7 keys
winged sun
midnight mist
ye delusional
royal lantern
How does outlaw do good aoe now
ur right, cant reach enemys with 5yard range for aoe
midnight mist
assa is one of the highest dpser in m+ rn
cunning basin
Competing against people that probs don't know what they're doing is not a good metric usually
faint path
Ye stinky st
midnight mist
ye sure stinky st
cunning basin
its prolly only bested by fdk
Nah outlaw is clearly better 
midnight mist
doesbnt matter when you are gapping everyone overall tho
cunning basin
Source: some guy said it once
midnight mist
also did this guy say outlaw did good aoe
keen spruce
Tyran doesn't know any better
winged sun
keen spruce
Tryan*
midnight mist
outlaw might be the complete opposite of assa actually
its prolly one of the highest st in m+
while having utterly shit aoe
winged sun
Outlaw’s aoe is complete dogshit
midnight mist
in a real dungeon of course, its alright in 5s for sure
keen spruce
sonic zinc
outlaw being big ST is so funny
midnight mist
12
sonic zinc
12
strange python
What the fuck
keen spruce
tournament realm gear
winged sun
12 should be good ya
midnight mist
12s are not mega juiced
strange python
So tgp is gonna be what
sonic zinc
its the pushers key
keen spruce
12's will get smoked
midnight mist
we are like 20 ilvl under mdi ilvl
keen spruce
with tournament realm gear
sonic zinc
TGP will be 13
midnight mist
ye
sonic zinc
winged sun
So tgp is gonna be what
No
keen spruce
TGP will probably hit like 17-18
winged sun
we are like 20 ilvl under mdi ilvl
Why do ppl forget those things
keen spruce
midnight mist
tbf, no idea
winged sun
sonic zinc
20 mists
midnight mist
max keys on live are 14s rn
sonic zinc
maybe 20 siege
strange python
„We“ are like 13 ilvls under bis
winged sun
20 might be impossible or?
keen spruce
I think 17 for sure
midnight mist
but people are missing about 20 ilvl
keen spruce
probably 18
midnight mist
so like
keen spruce
mayyyyybe
19
20 only with some giga cheese
or goofy strat
or broken mechanic
or bug
fleet pagoda
or after some shadow priest/aug/fire mage buffs 
sonic zinc
pepw
sonic zinc
mists probably since u can pull through wall in maze
keen spruce
couple more rounds of fire mage buffs
strange python
Hmmmge
keen spruce
and we're so back
midnight mist
last boss yuou get one shot by the dot
strange python
20 would be nice to see
sonic zinc
u can pull wall in mist maze
midnight mist
then the dot just one shot you every tick
sonic zinc
u can kill clones and foxes on 2nd bos
with orbs
if 20 is poissible it has to be mists
midnight mist
its kinda a banger thing
strange python
Or it didn’t exist
midnight mist
ye i think it just didnt exist
cause no one did it
and no way no one noticed
its so noticeable
strange python
Ye I mean someone would’ve figured out by accident
marble hemlock
so
sonic zinc
yea i feel like it wasnt a sl thing
midnight mist
the clones litteraly just get one shotted
marble hemlock
is this is new psyop where the outlaw players squat in the other spec channels so we beg for buffs to outlaw so they go away again?
midnight mist
yes
winged sun
did you know about it <@1172550924519080006>
About?
midnight mist
mist second boss
winged sun
It didnt work in SL cuh
midnight mist
the balls hit the clones
you know
ye ye i know it didnt
just asking if you knew
keen spruce
idk if u guys are appreciating the steepness
soft shale
it is a new thing
keen spruce
of the scaling
winged sun
We discussed it earlier
keen spruce
soft shale
they are adding the copies from interphase this hotfix
midnight mist
idk if u guys are appreciating the steepness
bro its absolute trash
soft shale
but yea best way to kill fox is stack
midnight mist
you litteraly steamroll 11s
midnight mist
then 12s everyone get one shotted by anything
fleet pagoda
the balls hit the clones
luckly clones 
soft shale
boss MURDERS
strange python
idk if u guys are appreciating the steepness
Uhm no it’s really unfun
keen spruce
There might be a world where you're 2 chesting 17s and can't do 18s
strange python
Also this 15s deathtimer bullshit
Doesn’t do anything but make you play even more for defensives
„We want to make it about damage“
grim vigil
guys i wanna make the argument that double vanish is better then echo on keys like ara kara first part where the tank is like chain pulling multiple packs, or am i stupid
strange python
Oh yeah uhh if you wipe you loose over a minute timer
midnight mist
Also this 15s deathtimer bullshit
ye
strange python
Fuck that
daring hamlet
safe to assume its gonna be neutral/small buff aoe and pretty significant st buff?
keen spruce
guys i wanna make the argument that double vanish is better then echo on keys li...
vanish charges don't come back independently
it stinky
west crown
guys i wanna make the argument that double vanish is better then echo on keys li...
It’s better if you are new and don’t understand how to do damage without stealth
midnight mist
like you wipe once and its litteraly gg, even tho the keys are timeable by like 5 min remaining
its a bit weird
keen spruce
safe to assume its gonna be neutral/small buff aoe and pretty significant st buf...
pins
agile osprey
There might be a world where you're 2 chesting 17s and can't do 18s <:OMEGAKEKW:...
Not me
fleet pagoda
guys i wanna make the argument that double vanish is better then echo on keys li...
you'd probably want a more concise plan/group strat of how to use those charges if you took double vanish. not gonna be worth for a brief segment of a dungeon
outer marten
guys i wanna make the argument that double vanish is better then echo on keys li...
I’m thinking I’m gonna play fatebound on keys like this, and perhaps even Silken Court. Will depend on how much the changes effect envenom next week though. Getting that buff on the amped one is gonna a be juicy af
west crown
vanish charges don't come back independently
Wait they don’t? It’s worse than I thought
sour mist
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strange python
Fatebound master assassin 
You go on king
But pls don’t cook for anyone else
Might get food poisoning
outer marten
Idk what that guy is smoking, they absolutely do recharge independently
grim vigil
I’m thinking I’m gonna play fatebound on keys like this, and perhaps even Silken...
right? also those ppl who say that build is for new ppl :D:D:D dude top 10 m+ rogue run double vanish
becaue of chain pulls 😄
strange python
Idk what that guy is smoking, they absolutely do recharge independently
They absolutely don’t
fleet pagoda
Idk what that guy is smoking, they absolutely do recharge independently
if you use both chargesa back to back, you'll have two charges again in 4 minutes, not 2
grim vigil
in 12s?
strange python
That have nothing to do with chainpulling
grim vigil
then why do they do it
strange python
Playing packs in a certain way where you need to residence/the dr from iron wire
grim vigil
dont just say nonono say why
outer marten
What? That makes zero sense. Every ability recharges at one per the CD in this game
strange python
Resilence*
grim vigil
so they do it for the control
outer marten
That’s absolutely how they work with outlaw
grim vigil
ok i see
fleet pagoda
if you use both chargesa back to back, you'll have two charges again in 4 minute...
wait 
that means they're dependent on each other, then, needing one to come back for the other to start
outer marten
So double vanish is literally the only ability in this game that doesn’t recharge itself at its normal cooldown rate, and waits double that length to give both back at once?
midnight mist
So double vanish is literally the only ability in this game that doesn’t recharg...
thats how every charge cooldowin the game works
otherwise its 2 independent spells
which isnt really a thing
soft shale
i wish i got my 2 charges back as sub
midnight mist
and would be weird to track, idk how you would track that
balmy condor
imagine shiv recharging independently
soft shale
imagine
balmy condor
holy
sonic zinc
imagine
soft shale
DOUBLE SHIVVERS
balmy condor
like 60% shiv uptime
sonic zinc
theys hould make that a rogue passive
strange python
i wish i got my 2 charges back as sub
HOLY
midnight mist
whats good about this thing tho, is that you can keep one up, without losing any cdr on it, since only one recharge at a time anyway
balmy condor
i wish i got my 2 charges back as sub
THREE INDEPENDENT SYMBOLS CHARGES?
midnight mist
very handy !
sonic zinc
imagine the grpaple changes with independent charges
balmy condor
log in
outer marten
No, not meaning independently. What was said is that you don’t get a charge until both recharge, which is unequivocally false
soft shale
even worse
strange python
No, not meaning independently. What was said is that you don’t get a charge unti...
No one said that
outer marten
Pop vanish, 2 minutes later one recharges
outer marten
…carry on. Apparently my reading comprehension suffers under the ganja
outer marten
Agree
karmic gazelle
So assassin good now
outer marten
DS running double vanish makes no sense
royal lantern
„We want to make it about damage“
"we want to make group dmg less bursty, and make the tanks sometimes need healing"
->proceeds to make group dmg more bursty then ever before, but now tanks are also not immortal anymore
strange python
So assassin good now
Was good before
royal lantern
outer marten
Sin is good, now it’s even better
karmic gazelle
outer marten
Rogue as a whole is a bit low on the overall parses in raid, but meh. We can do well and bring unique utility to raid and keys
pale wave
log out time
thanks for the key!
grim vigil
whats weekly ilvl from 8 delves in vault
strange python
But it’s enough
prisma tundra
is there actually any reason to do delves for vault, surely literally any mythic item is gonna be better than whatever u get from there
strange python
is there actually any reason to do delves for vault, surely literally any mythic...
There’s some good trinkets even on hero track
outer marten
Shit, the value of iron wire in keys is kinda nuts with the stop changes they made going into tww
balmy condor
thanks for the key!
thanks for the vault slot king 
fleet pagoda
is there actually any reason to do delves for vault, surely literally any mythic...
hero track ritual knife currently sims better for me than mythic track dungeon trinkets
royal lantern
that vault slot gonna have a skardyns in it
i got it, so you will aswell
pale wave
fucking right it will
royal lantern
wise gull
grim batol 27 down
prisma tundra
<:peeposhrug:657382266921812009> hero track ritual knife currently sims better f...
better than skardyns + sac or something?
wise gull
balmy condor
i got it, so you will aswell
bro I'm down horrendous, I'm playing ritual knife/crystal
keen spruce
Was talking raid <a:cattime:1228651622415073373>
balmy condor
on use is for losers
wise gull
How many gbs you at Whispyr?
fleet pagoda
better than skardyns + sac or something?
well I have a skardyn's already so I suppose I meant to say for the non-CD used trinket, yeah it was simming similar to sac for me and higher on dslice
balmy condor
I lost count
royal lantern
bro I'm down horrendous, I'm playing ritual knife/crystal
41 GB runs and no trinket->its in vault
you gotta belive man
balmy condor
quake tried to funnel me a skardyns
keen spruce
anyone got any good recommendatins for netflix movies
balmy condor
and it dropped for him
keen spruce
everything on here looks like ass
royal lantern
warbound?
soft shale
wao
wise gull
i guess with the buffs im taking skardyns now if its in vault
fleet pagoda
wise gull
looking like a sin tier now
pale wave
fyi man came to play
balmy condor
no, just straight hero track
wheat tiger
on use is for losers
If you could have any trinkets what would they be for raid?
balmy condor
fyi man came to play
nerf frost dk
balmy condor
If you could have any trinkets what would they be for raid?
skardyns mandate
strange python
Flashbanged at 4am 
royal lantern
looking like a sin tier now
ah yes, "assa tier" when silken court is like, THE sub fight
soft shale
not for long
keen spruce
fyi man came to play
wtf are you saturation settings 
soft shale
same with queen
balmy condor
wtf are you saturation settings <:caterm:1114018777894506606>
HDR
royal lantern
not for long
oh yeha
wheat tiger
skardyns mandate
Double on-use?
soft shale
with iron wire smh
midnight mist
oh ye nvm
soft shale
imagine all the power contained in those silences
balmy condor
next week that 1.8 is gonna be 3
soft shale
then you can AOE BLIND and also reduce the dmg
pale wave
LOL
strange python
Now you pair that with an aug
soft shale
augmenting the dps with interrupt issues and tanks with soft chests
fleet pagoda
they call assa rogue now the new aug but actually does dmg
not when i'm playing it
spice surge
-18% attack speed and -15% dmg
spice surge
Actually making the tank immortal
balmy condor
uncap kingsbane you cowards
royal lantern
the triforce
triforce of shutins?
strange python
Altho no pls don’t preach
soft shale
triforce of finally the web bolters will move
strange python
Means bitching myself out for pi again
spice surge
uncap kingsbane you cowards
Cap shrouded to compensate
balmy condor
Cap shrouded to compensate
royal lantern
Cap shrouded to compensate
in read cap shroud first
midnight mist
uncap kingsbane you cowards
ok if we uncap bf
royal lantern
and thought
"oh ok, only 2people get stealth"
keen spruce
what if we uncap zac
midnight mist
I would be unhinged uncapped ngl
balmy condor
ok if we uncap bf
okay, we uncap blade flurry, but we also uncap scent of blood
keen spruce
spice surge
and thought
"oh ok, only 2people get stealth"
Ye cap that too, max 3 allies
midnight mist
okay, we uncap blade flurry, but we also uncap scent of blood
i dont even know what scent of blood is
go for it blud
balmy condor
I thought you were assa main
midnight mist
oh ye shit
spice surge
One has to death skip, pray your healer rngs the shroud
royal lantern
Ye cap that too, max 3 allies
counting pets aswell ofc
midnight mist
mb mb
wheat tiger
I thought you were assa main
Feels like mandate sims poorly on the raidbots
royal lantern
4% agi per ruptured target, max 20%
make it 20% agility per rupture, max 4%
fleet pagoda
if an ally gets mind controlled in gb and you put rupture on them, do we still get the scent stack after mind control ends?
balmy condor
Feels like mandate sims poorly on the raidbots
doubt it, it's bis single target
fleet pagoda
also would they have bonespike for forever too
wheat tiger
I thought trench was
balmy condor
skardyns + mandate is the best combo available in raids
wheat tiger
Ok cool that’s good to know
royal lantern
if an ally gets mind controlled in gb and you put rupture on them, do we still g...
idk, but you can reset DN on them 
fleet pagoda
idk, but you can reset DN on them <:dracthyr_kek:1002454136706580620>
good tech. i'll keep an eye for that opportunity
runic hinge
Yeah stats are fake
drifting cloud
33 ilvl isnt that fake
neon thunder
heya, so i have 0 versa on gear and i run cursed haste enchant - so my versa is technically negative right now. do i take extra damage?
balmy condor
yes
neon thunder
its over time to redo my enchat
balmy condor
the curse enchants aren't even good
royal lantern
assa likes all stats
curse enchants remove stats
strange python
33 ilvl isnt that fake
Necks have no mainstat so it won’t be as big of a diffy as other pieces
barren island
Necks have no mainstat so it won’t be as big of a diffy as other pieces <:Surebu...
still a fuck ton of secondary
to be only 0.3% better
runic hinge
It depends on your own stats tho
main blaze
idk if you have 11k haste then you probably dont want that neck as much.
barren island
@subtle cipher how much haste u have rn
subtle cipher
<@540508904090501132> how much haste u have rn
8k
elfin garden
@balmy condor Iggy's a bitch
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> Iggy's a bitch
balmy condor
link sim
drifting cloud
yeah its called user error xdd
strange python
it’s just secondaries, so if you have „too much“ of one of them the 33ilvls do absolutely nothing
balmy condor
bro just hit me with the euro quotation marks
strange python
I didn’t even hit you with it
balmy condor
fucking gänsefüßchen lookin ass
strange python
Goddayum
royal lantern
fucking gänsefüßchen lookin ass
nein
ember mural
fucking gänsefüßchen lookin ass
gesundheit
strange python
Whispyr im about to send you trimming with the HECKENSCHÄRE
exotic rose
They nerfed quotation marks
balmy condor
Whispyr im about to send you trimming with the HECKENSCHÄRE
bitte nicht alter
spice spire
bitte nicht alter
Dog?
strange python
And make you talk to Nachbarin Ilse that placed her new tree in a way where a shadow is now being projected on your grandmas precious Grundstück
You don’t what the smoke
strange python
drifting cloud
is that the homophobic grandma
balmy condor
yes
barren island
it’s just secondaries, so if you have „too much“ of one of them the 33ilvls do a...
he said only 8k haste tho
that isnt too much
spice spire
Is homophobic also the one that you stay with
balmy condor
she sits there and complains about how inconsiderate it is to plant a tree 30cm from the grenzstein
strange python
You can find every single thing that gets you cancelled in German/Austrian elderly people
spice spire
When you’re there
balmy condor
and I'm like it's their property
and she goes yeah
but it's also 30cm
and I'm like yeah
30cm into their property
strange python
he said only 8k haste tho
Point is he could be low on another stat you can’t know what his stats are
strange python
I bet you can’t wait for your next visit
drifting cloud
Point is he could be low on another stat you can’t know what his stats are
actually the real point is assa doesnt hate any stat so 33 ilvl should be a bigger upgrade even if the stat on it was expertise, so its probably just user error
royal lantern
I bet you can’t wait for your next visit
runic hinge
I’ve never made a user error
strange python
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1291900541223436329/im...
drifting cloud
put sockets on the lower ilvl one but didnt put them on the other one for example
drifting cloud
20 ilvl on that neck for me is 1.5% which sounds alot more realistic
strange python
Idk I got a hero ring from raid replacing my veteran ring from week one and it was 0.4%
So
It’s not too unrealistic
runic hinge
Maybe he’s playing fatebound and wants more crit
strange python
Maybe he’s playing fatebound and wants more crit
Godknows, if there was just a way to share the sim
mystic osprey
So as a guess do you guys reckon sin might be the best single target spec now? Or sub still takes the cake
strange python
The only cake sub is getting is the one it’s eating
royal lantern
Look at all their buffs
no
thick sail
Is Siphoning Stiletto still bad?
thick sail
If I have a 606 MH, should I craft the other crafted dagger then?
thick sail
nah, for my MH
novel star
ya
mystic osprey
Get rid of that 606 crap however you can
thick sail
okay
novel star
if u dont have a myth track dagger getting one or crafting a 636 is your top prio always
digital wind
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
runic hinge
The story mode quest will give you a crest to make it a 619
mystic osprey
My sin St was trash because I had a 606 dagger
novel star
kill queen ansurek singleplayer 
mystic osprey
dont even have to do +9s or watev
+9 gives you a 636 doesn't it lol
thick sail
if u dont have a myth track dagger getting one or crafting a 636 is your top pri...
Gotcha, thank you
novel star
if u dont wanna do +9s you can get the runed crest one by doing literal solo content
mystic osprey
Better than nothing
novel star
yeye
thick sail
What's the best embellishment for the dagger? quickly reading them, blessed grip sounds good
novel star
!craft
prisma monolithBOT
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
novel star
if you only care about like mythic prog then make ascension combo
royal lantern
What's the best embellishment for the dagger? quickly reading them, blessed grip...
i dont even know what blessed grip is
so yeha, not good
thick sail
Okay, ascension sounds good!
novel star
didnt realize they simmed so close for me now 
hella crit i guess
poisoned pact moment
crisp stream
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
thick sail
Where's the best place to grab bubbling wax from?
I've pickpocketed kobolds and never see it, am I in the wrong spot?
thick sail
Nice, I will give that a shot
ripe carbon
also, use pickpocket macro if ur not
#showtooltip Pick Pocket
/targetenemy [harm][no dead]
/cast Pick Pocket
/cleartarget
thick sail
D:
ripe carbon
ya thats true if u havent done u wont be able to get
main blaze
I just grab like 20 every couple of days from the north east kobolds in dorn
thick sail
Where are they at? The meadery?
main blaze
I dont remember what its called, its near the delve in the northeast
storm zinc
Why does noone play fatebound?
thick sail
I play it, but everyone says it's worse
I got tired of getting caught out of stealth with no deathstalker buff
Especially in pvp
timber meadow
queued a 12 gb cause i was curious where the wall was relative to other dungeons... enforcers were melee'ing tank for 4 mil through defensives
thick sail
It feels REALLY bad that the hero tree literally does nothing if you get caught out of stealth and aren't specced into Subterfuge
tall jay
So, what do we do if the deathstalker buff falls off?
novel star
Why does noone play fatebound?
thematics and popularity bias and stats
deathstalker just sims better for most people
thick sail
Vanish to reapply it
novel star
fatebound is cringe coinflipper rng moment
thick sail
if vanish is on cd, feel sad until vanish is ready
tall jay
If it’s down?
novel star
but the biggest thing is just popularity i believe
thick sail
literally cannot do anything
novel star
if you look at logs fatebound looks terrible because like 99% of logs are on deathstalker
spice spire
fatebound is cringe coinflipper rng moment
Ur so real for that
tall jay
Even in raid?
thick sail
If I may add something
Playing deathstalker I did not notice a single animation or sound
novel star
Ur so real for that
i have kind of 180d my opinion on the hero specs completely after er fix tbh
thick sail
But as Fatebound at least I hear and see coin noises and animations
main blaze
Playing deathstalker I did not notice a single animation or sound
You dont like the glowy scar on their head for deathstalker?
novel star
i like both
if i end up in mythic court prog im almost certainly going fatebound
cause fuck the mark minigame on that fight dude
but everywhere else its fine
with vv
runic hinge
fatebound is cringe coinflipper rng moment
Just hit your flips it’s easy
tall jay
Heroic only here so I think I’m ok lol
modest gale
!craft
prisma monolithBOT
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
spice spire
Just hit your flips it’s easy
Flip this pal 
spice spire
Dog I got the ass dw
echo latch
Does weapon type matter anymore? I see sub rogues with OH fist weapons
Do I need a slow MH for Combat still? Double daggers for mut?
runic hinge
You need two daggers for assassination man who just woke up from a coma in 2014
worn panther
Rogue with fist off hand is a pvp stats thing, you use both daggers
Outlaw needs one handed weapons yeah
spice spire
You need two daggers for assassination man who just woke up from a coma in 2014
Some people quit wow for extended periods of time
No shame
slate crown
Do I need a slow MH for Combat still? Double daggers for mut?
Just to make sure, you are asking about retail or classic?
echo latch
Outlaw needs one handed weapons yeah
Daggers aren't 1 handed melee weapons according to Combat
hollow river
Rogue with fist off hand is a pvp stats thing, you use both daggers
Even for pvp that is dying out because it isn’t optimal anymore
echo latch
Retail. I was just thrown off by a sub rogue with a OH fist weapon so I was questioning my game knowledge.
spice spire
Rare notrickz 
slate crown
Retail. I was just thrown off by a sub rogue with a OH fist weapon so I was ques...
Yeah, no sub rogue should ever be using a fist OH in pve
hollow river
balmy condor
just cause you can doesn't mean you should
runic hinge
Some people quit wow for extended periods of time
I didn’t mean to shame him it was just amusing to use terminology I haven’t heard in a decade ig but I mean I’m the one who’s been playing all 20 years so who needs to be ashamed here
hollow river
Retail. I was just thrown off by a sub rogue with a OH fist weapon so I was ques...
Probably pvpers that don’t know that’s bad to do now
spice spire
I didn’t mean to shame him it was just amusing to use terminology I haven’t hear...
Real
lavish brook
Are people soloing ?? zevkir?
spice spire
Yes
balmy condor
not a good enough outlaw player for ??
spice spire
But that sounds like absolute dog shit
runic hinge
I need to actually do a tier 11 delve. My last ? I had him dead before second dm
balmy condor
my brann is only like 32 as well
spice spire
How
lavish brook
A couple weeks ago, he would 2 auto me
spice spire
I’m a casual mf with a 37
balmy condor
that still happens
slate crown
yeah my brann is 32 as well
balmy condor
I’m a casual mf with a 37
I do 8x ? zekvir and then don't do delves
lavish brook
my brans 44 lol, diving for those maps
slate crown
yay whispyr is casual like i am
runic hinge
I delve a lot
slate crown
hurayy
spice spire
yeah my brann is 32 as well
Yeah but that requires you to leave the auction house
slate crown
this is true
spice spire
And Ik that ain’t happening
lavish brook
I just RL my friends through heroic and stuff though, so the loot is minimal
slate crown
(Don't ask wehre I am rn don't ask where I am rndon't ask where I am rndon't ask where I am rndon't ask where I am rn)
balmy condor
lisonna straight tweaking whenever the game involves closing weakauras or the auction house
spice spire
I do 8x ? zekvir and then don't do delves
Extremely based
Actually
Is there even a reason for you to delve now Vhispyr?
balmy condor
yeah I'm collecting delve trinkets
balmy condor
blizzard announced delve trinket tuning will come eventually
in their first trinket tuning post
so if I have a bad vault
I'm taking a delve trinket
spice spire
Brother
spice spire
Mentally are you in Illinois
grim vigil
is it fine to skip snd and then towards the end of an pack just get it up after your burst
i feel like i dont like that global in opener
balmy condor
if you're pressing kingsbane at any point in the pull you better have snd up
grim vigil
good point
modest gale
what are best weapon enchants for m+?
winged sun
MAN I HATE THIS GAME
balmy condor
guides are good
jolly heath
would this buff make assa on pair with outlaw in st on dummy
balmy condor
probably not considering they also got 4.5%
winged sun
is it fine to ignore deathmark in big aoe packs for more overall?
if there are no prio targets
and if i do ignore it, do i have to not use kingsbane too?
earnest remnant
pure moth
You should always use your cds
balmy condor
zeross you've been playing outlaw way too long my guy this is advanced brainrot
fading gazelle
next week raid dps /ass vs subtley/
winged sun
modest gale
is it okay to play ascendance and 1x dawnthread?
balmy condor
sure
fading gazelle
Please recommend it
balmy condor
what do you enjoy more
fading gazelle
raid sub m+ ass but Im only going to do one thing
sonic zinc
using both depths and radiant power shouldnt be an issue right?
balmy condor
sure
lavish brook
Do you guys put on crippling poison in M+?
balmy condor
yes
lavish brook
I guess it helps tanks with backstepping?