assassination

[fathom cove]

says Deadly, but Amplifying works too

[limber lion]

Yep

[novel star]

i see

[limber lion]

There is however never a scenario you play Amp without also playing Deadly

Well

Depends

But probably not

You should really only play Amp with DTB

[novel star]

[fathom cove]

its for tracking on target to actually know when Mutilate will trigger it

[subtle tundra]

there hasnt been any build that plays amp without dtb

[fathom cove]

the poisons arent applied instantly 100% after attacking

you have to track these poisons on target

[inner surge]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[subtle tundra]

you really dont

[limber lion]

What use does that really do for you?

[novel star]

if you hit fan a few times you’re never really in a situation where someone doesn’t have a poison on them

shit kinda just happens

like on paper yes

but when is the last time you went to apply spatter and the poison was the reason you couldn’t

in actual gameplay

[subtle tundra]

i think it happend 2-3 over the course of the past expansion

[limber lion]

Well that does sometimes happen

Yeh

[subtle tundra]

not yet this one for me

but it just means i press mutilate again

[novel star]

one unpoisoned target per year

[subtle tundra]

who cares

[timid marsh]

yo guys, my Opener is > Ambush > Garrote > Mutilate > Echoing > Rupture > Slice and Dice > Deathmark > Thistle Tea > 1st Shiv > Kingsbane > Mutilate & Envenom until over&over together with Thistle tea and i cast my last Shiv at KB last 7s again. is it correct?

[novel star]

gonna change my plates for that

[limber lion]

Now that Garrotes and Ruptures also apply poisons, it's a pretty freebie

[novel star]

let’s go

!poison

[prisma monolith]

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

• Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
  Non-Lethals:
• Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

[limber lion]

Not quite

You're using A LOT of generators in the beginning

Ambush + Garrote + Mutilate + ER

Like you're definitely overcapping

You just do Ambush - Garrote - Rupture

So Ambush - Garrote - Rupture - Slice - ER

[subtle tundra]

depends if he plays SS

[limber lion]

Yeah in that case you use ER beforehand

But the Mutilate is not needed

Even with 1cp Garrote, you'll be at 6+ with Gar + Ambush + ER

[timid marsh]

i use that to get max rupture

[limber lion]

Do not do that

[novel star]

that’s fake news

forcing 7cp is bad

[limber lion]

There is no point

[novel star]

real bad

[limber lion]

It does not increase the damage

It only increases the duration

[timid marsh]

thank you, ima try again real quick

[limber lion]

Gl

[native escarp]

finally got some stats

[twilit kayak]

hi, should i craft weapon with 3rd spark or something else?

[novel star]

if you don’t have a mythic weapon then yes

[twilit kayak]

i have 619 weapons rn

[novel star]

636 main hand pretty big

wont get anything bigger

anywhere else

[twilit kayak]

is 636 max ilvl?

[novel star]

from craft yeah

myth track drop upgraded is 639

[twilit kayak]

ok so almost the same

[novel star]

[twilit kayak]

well time to do some +9

[novel star]

glhf

[twilit kayak]

tyty and thanks for info

[uncut knot]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[uncut knot]

Hey guys, any idae what should i craft next, i already got 639 daggger from vault, and 2 dawntrhead craft (wrist/boots), im only aiming MM+ not planning on doing any raid push

[limber lion]

Sim yourself with Droptimizer

[novel star]

craft whatever slot sucks

[limber lion]

Upgrade the lowest ilvl piece

[novel star]

so it doesn’t suck anymore

[uncut knot]

Alright, is crafting neck or ring good too even if there is no agility ? im missing a lot of mastery rn (i have 16K crit for almost 8k mastery)

thanks guys

[glossy lintel]

Anyone got the tech for [Let Me Solo Him] as assassination yet? (?? Difficulty Zekvir)

[limber lion]

Don't look at stats

Just sim yourself

Stats do not matter

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[limber lion]

Secondly, yes Neck and Ring are good slots

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/droptimizer

[uncut knot]

Thanks for the help sim running atm

[glacial crypt]

what on earth are moodeng pictures

[balmy condor]

moodeng these nuts in your mouth

[balmy condor]

moo deng is the tiny hippo or whatever

[steel ridge]

god bless i am free

[balmy condor]

this dude

[glacial crypt]

you are

[balmy condor]

I am

[glacial crypt]

something something

[balmy condor]

descartes would be proud

[glacial crypt]

i don't know shut up

[crisp pine]

Can I be too?

[blazing pumice]

this is me retiring from GB for the week I think

fk the trinket

[balmy condor]

"why don't the RWF rogues use skardyns?" we all say in unison going into hour 20 of grim batol without seeing it even drop

[blazing pumice]

would be fine if the dungeon wasn't so hard to pug

[steel ridge]

i just had a real shitshow

but it was worth it

[limber lion]

Pesto > Moo Deng

[steel ridge]

all the good blast runs never reward you

[balmy condor]

true

[blazing pumice]

i have 13 mist runs done

fuck mists

[molten cosmos]

Can't we apply Bubbling Wax anymore on weapons? All the time telling me I can't even when I have nothing on it

Or is it replacing poison now?

[balmy condor]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[glacial crypt]

i have suggested we add another raid day

[molten cosmos]

oooooooooo-key

[glacial crypt]

weds - friday sun monday isn't enough

[limber lion]

5 days a week ain't enough?

[glacial crypt]

more button pressing required

[limber lion]

Very true

[glacial crypt]

SURELY WITH 1.8% WIPES OVINAX DIES IF WE JUST SEND TONIGHT

RIGHT

😭

[graceful umbra]

Enchant Weapon - Authority of Radiant Power or Enchant Weapon - Authority of the Depths?

[sturdy stirrup]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/816403895210606693/817586492985311232/image0.gif

[glacial crypt]

[limber lion]

Depths

[glacial crypt]

depths for raid power for m+

[woven torrent]

someone using a shodowstep + kick macro they could share

[graceful umbra]

#showtooltip Kick
/cast [@focus,harm,nodead] Shadowstep
/cast [@focus,harm,nodead] Kick; Kick

[woven torrent]

Tyy

[graceful umbra]

ty

[graceful umbra]

ty

[limber lion]

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=5, Shadowstep, Kick; Kick

[lunar seal]

anyone know if weapoin craft is worth if you got 619 weapon already?

[limber lion]

Both with completely different functions

[woven torrent]

??

[limber lion]

Only you can know that by simming yourself

[woven torrent]

what is the reference

[lunar seal]

how do i check for weapon craft sims?

or craftiung sims

[pliant gazelle]

Why did I lost my Darkestnight here ? I killed the mob, the buff refreshed back to 30s but then I still lost it.

[spice surge]

Add the item into your top gear

[limber lion]

By simming yourself with droptimizer

Or Top Gear

[spice surge]

Ye or droptimizer works too

[lunar seal]

ok ty

[limber lion]

There are some bugs with Darkest Night usage and proc if it happens at the same time

[craggy elbow]

my man, you got me. I thought there was a bug on my screen LOL

[limber lion]

What reference?

[pliant gazelle]

So I shouldnt finish mobs with DN ?

[limber lion]

I mean it doesn't really matter because you can just open on a new pack with Ambush anyways

[blazing pumice]

that's a sign you belong in #subtlety

[woven torrent]

ehh i mean difference between those 2 macros

[worthy bear]

When you have the darkest night buff, do you still open with ambush from stealth or just garrote and wait for the next 7cp env?

[limber lion]

Cloaken linked a focus-macro

And if you spam it, it will use all shadowstep charges

My macro is spammable, but it won't cast a second shadowstep

But it's not a focus-macro

[limber lion]

Well, if it the interaction wasn't bugged, you would open with Ambush regardless

But currently it's a bit different because if you have the buff and open with Ambush and do your Rupture/CT rotation, you'll be at 3 marks the entire time

It is very likely better to just Garrote into Envenom for now

But once the bug gets fixed, you'd want to Ambush

[worthy bear]

Oooh I thought my WA was strange but that's a bug lol

[limber lion]

Yeah if you have DN up and marks on a target, it will not reduce the marks until you use DN

[worthy bear]

So envenom even before rupture spread and splatter to get up the mark?

[limber lion]

Yeh

[worthy bear]

Kk

Wild

Ty

[limber lion]

I personally try to save up some cp's from previous packs

So I can do a Gar - Envenom right away

Instead of having to build up to 7cp

Or just play around with ER

[worthy bear]

Yeah just feels strange to use a gcd during carnage for env

[glacial crypt]

ngl

[limber lion]

Thank the lords ER works now

[limber lion]

Yep

[glacial crypt]

i have an aura cancel macro for darkest night

so i just open on every pack the same way lmao

[limber lion]

That's honestly a vibe as well

[woven torrent]

when using the focus macro for shadow step kick he shadow steps but doesnt kick

[lime parrot]

Guys, how do you start an AOE fight in M+? Without cooldowns

[woven torrent]

pretty sure i copied the macro correctly

[limber lion]

Yes because you have to spam the macro

It will not kick because it triggers one button press and activates both at the same time

and if you're not in range of kicking, it won't kick

[silent kernel]

oh my god i didn't even know, i've been playing Fatebound for the whole patch 😭
Thanks though, time to learn the whole DS shtick i guess ._.

[woven torrent]

so im using urs and adding the focus target to it ?

[limber lion]

And if you spam that macro, it will Shadowstep twice if you use double shadowstep

Sure

[woven torrent]

wait that looks complicated how do i add focujs target to that xd

[limber lion]

You can reduce the reset to 2 as well

It's just a failsafe so it won't spam your steps

#showtooltip
/castsequence [@focus] reset=3 Shadowstep, Kick; Kick

[woven torrent]

ty !!

[limber lion]

np

But again, it's a macro that you have to spam

[turbid crest]

!enchant

[limber lion]

There is no way to make it so you press a button once and it will trigger shadowstep and kick, if you're out of range of kick when pressing it

[turbid crest]

!wowhead

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[woven torrent]

@limber lion yea i understood the principle , is that something u use urself btw ?

[limber lion]

No

I don't use any macros

[woven torrent]

not even a rapture mouse over?

[limber lion]

Well, I have mouseover macros setup

But rarely use them

Like my Shadowstep is on R and Kick is on F

So it's very easy to just press them both when needed

VV is purely single target

It loses value the second you add more targets to the mix

And you start to press FoK instead of Mutilate

Honestly, most fights have some sort of add phases or whatever

So VV is not super great there

Twist the Knife is ultra cooked though

Do not touch that talent

...

no

Have you not read anything I just said

lol

The more you press Mutilate = the better VV is

The less you press Mutilate = the worse VV is

It's that simple

There's no secret stat breakpoints or anything

[solemn fern]

what are the go to M+ trinkets now? seige and grim trinkets??

[limber lion]

I mean at the end of the day, it's down to their own sims

If something else sims better, they'll run it

[glacial crypt]

just because something is better in theory doesn't mean that's what we're always going to play in any given scenario

[faint path]

whos this rogue are u here 😄

[glacial crypt]

not rn but yesterday before raid yes :^)

our enhance needs it too and and we were doing the same thing lmao

[faint path]

did u guys get it ? 😄

[glacial crypt]

unfortunately not

but today is a new day

and we're not raiding so it's prime time for trinket getting

[quaint knoll]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[quaint knoll]

So it's the stabber I craft?

The everforged stabber I mean

[kindred dune]

guys maybe again a stupid question: the blasphemite socket with the 0.15% critical effect per UNIQUE Algari gem color, does this only stack if I do different gems, like i.e. 1 masterful ruby, 1 masterful Emerald etc.? anyone knows?

[spice surge]

It doesnt have to be masterful

But yes, its 0.15% per ruby/onyx/etc

[kindred dune]

so basically ruby, onyx, emerald, sapphire, these 4?

is it worth it to use the different ones or just to stick to the main stats gems?

[spice surge]

Its also 0.15%, so it doesnt really matter

[kindred dune]

ok so you suggest to just go for the gems which are best stat-wise and ignore the 0.15% boost

[blazing pumice]

this is a simmable question

[subtle karma]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[scarlet jackal]

Big googleable noob question but if I craft a dagger with the story mode crest is it pretty simple to upgrade it later with the mythic crest or will I have to get a ton of other mats again

[south token]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[blazing pumice]

the mat requirement is substantially reduced

[scarlet jackal]

Love this ty

[zealous wolf]

Is it really? I tried simming it and the sim only used single color gems for each sim, idk if i did it wrong tho

[stoic urchin]

Is deathstalker strictly better than fate bound?

[zealous wolf]

Ds sims like 70k more than fatebound for me

[cerulean compass]

!trinket

[lime parrot]

Guys how many runs do you run to get this fcking brim trinket

[glacial crypt]

not keeping track this time

[cerulean compass]

Still running, and don't saw grim anymore in tag 🫠

[glacial crypt]

ara kara dropped first time and I thought we wouldn't be in prison trinket wise

but nooooo

[lime parrot]

I saw 3 ppl get it

Like 20 runs

i cant

[solemn fern]

!trinkets

[grim jay]

3

[grim jay]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[solemn fern]

!trinket

[spring moat]

Transmitter trolls me. Wants me to jump around like an ahole all the time

[balmy condor]

That’s the best one

Consider yourself lucky that you need to jump

[spring moat]

I found jumping three times during the ansurek fight when your tank blows up the green orb, you turn into Michael Jordan flying away to the sea

[worldly sail]

you have to toggle this to make it socket different color gems

[strange python]

I am on the ferry now

[subtle tundra]

God gave you shadowsteps

[spring moat]

I forget to use it when it’s clutch time. Lol

[proven jasper]

Best time for it

[spring moat]

In my defense it was a wipe anyway lol

[devout schooner]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[quick shore]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[blazing pumice]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/w9ocyEa9osdpo7GtvQFN5K

that's my dslice sim with just the one type of gem

0.2% loss

oops old simc profile, w/e

[glacial crypt]

i stg

if u end up in glasgow messaging me "I'm here where are you"

i'll scream

[strange python]

HAHAHAH

I guess you‘ll have to wait

And see

[glacial crypt]

gotta clean my room

oh no

[keen spruce]

F kick is correct answer

[past panther]

My kick is F2 >_>

[strange python]

You said it’s clean already yesterday

[keen spruce]

Witnessed

[proven jasper]

Glad we got more kick on F enjoyers

based

[glacial crypt]

I completely redone a room just before the expansion launch

the state of it right now is

[cerulean walrus]

F is for Feint

[glacial crypt]

not ideal

any trinket enjoyers kom

[urban anvil]

Is there a pandemic Window for envenom?

[glacial crypt]

2 seconds

[urban anvil]

Alright then in doing ig right

[glacial crypt]

yes team

[dapper cradle]

still holding onto my 606 skardyn's for dear life

can't get a hero or even a champ track one to drop

surely myth track in vault on reset?

[glacial crypt]

There have been 4 rogues that joined the group

with 606 trinkets

but with the key

we needed both 😭

this legend has come along with a +7 and is able to trade though

so we're full sending

[spring moat]

Hey @glacial crypt just use echoing rep on cd ? Or line it up with something else ?

[strange python]

I guess you still have enough time this ferry slow

[glacial crypt]

just full send on CD

[slate crown]

Use ER on cd when you need a builder

[strange comet]

Line it like; imagind u open do garottes and ruptures just trow it to benefit full potential of envenoms early window burst, its one of the usage points. There is alot

[slate crown]

Just on cd

it's a better builder than mutilate, that's it

[strange comet]

U keep doing on cd mate

[slate crown]

aye

[strange comet]

I have few spesific moment which i like to use more and it comes nearly sort of cd anyway

[spring moat]

I’ve noticed refreshing a rupture will use anima charge. Is that wasted ?

[slate crown]

No, this is fine.

[strange comet]

I use anima charge for envenoms and CT mostly

[slate crown]

It doesn't matter, combo points are combo points.

[strange comet]

U use imp garotte and rupture anyway

Rerupturing is like most of the time u need 10-20 sec and there i do with 3x cp spam rupture back to back because u gain back the point u spend again and u can re rupture for low hp pack

U mainly want jusicy envenoms anyway fro cautic to explode

[keen spruce]

@desert inlet

[desert inlet]

hello and gn

[keen spruce]

Gn bye forever

[strange python]

Shmeep how late is it for you now

Isn’t it late

Af

[keen spruce]

It’s 9am

I just got up

An hour ago or so

[brisk anvil]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[slate crown]

goob morbing

[strange python]

Oooo good morning

[subtle tundra]

id join and if i drop it i ask for gold

500k

[unborn pulsar]

Yo - is there anything Assas pre pops before key?

[tepid lichen]

Vicodin

[subtle tundra]

ok house

[unborn pulsar]

xD

[tepid lichen]

[exotic hearth]

What are the best relics to use in delves? I'm struggling with the 11s

[past panther]

What’s the purpose of doing bigger delves? Thought everything capped out at 8?

[tepid lichen]

Achievements

I use porcelain and amorphous for everything incl solo 11s

[exotic hearth]

Assuming you run him as heals?

[tepid lichen]

Yes

[exotic hearth]

Got it. Ive been using iron idol and amorphous so maybe porcelain is the way to go

[tepid lichen]

Iron is fine too especially if you just want to go slow for the no death achievement. Porcelain just more damage

[rotund oak]

done like 20 keys

never have i found loot in the chest in the end

[glacial crypt]

bite me

didn't drop again

but my collection of cloaks grows

come trade we're listed again

bitches all

nvm my favourite person joined go away

[rotund oak]

sub 200k for gold cap

what do u wanna buy from me

😅

[slate crown]

Rank 1 ironclaw/aqirite/bismuth

[rotund oak]

hold on

lemme see

[digital venture]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[slate crown]

I'm assembling a team for reset, hoping they spike again. Even if they don't they still were at cost to create if they sell at current prices (which is low relatively).

[rotund oak]

yo u are nuts

[slate crown]

[rotund oak]

ive got some r1 bismuths

like 500

[slate crown]

I'm also NA and I think you're EU? also it's a start but I need like 7k

[rotund oak]

wasnt meant to be

its like 700

havent refined them yet wanted to keep for bolts

coz they cost like 7 conc each craft

bolts cost 470g each

[proven jasper]

I dont think theyre nearly that expensive on NA

Or have they just gone up

its been a while

[rotund oak]

the prices drop rapidly in EU as well

token gonna skyrocket

[proven jasper]

time to invest

[rotund oak]

ye ill most likely send my bolts these days

bolts lost 40g a piece past 2 days

its

[proven jasper]

Ive been mostly just selling my ore but time to stock up on bolts

[rotund oak]

yup same,bismuth made me rich

this druid basicly

[proven jasper]

The only way i afforded crafting tbh

[rotund oak]

i dont bother rn,only care to see if i can goldcap snipe a tiger on black market now

[feral shuttle]

Should we use authority of the depths on MH and OH?

[rotund oak]

for raids depths

for m+ radiant power

u can also 1 of each and be an all around

[keen spruce]

What about for m-

[rotund oak]

(-) as in down

down on you baby

[keen spruce]

[marble hemlock]

tell her shes stinky

[spring moat]

Sold my null stones this week when I saw the weekly mining quest. Gold cap inc

[vapid terrace]

What I miss? What's this mining talk

[glacial crypt]

you're horrible

[subtle tundra]

I dont help beggars

I've traded skardyn twice

[marble hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-get-to-work-gif-21630516

[subtle tundra]

And once kept for myself

[marble hemlock]

dont even have to mention my name, im sure she'll know who its from

[radiant shadow]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[glacial crypt]

When she comes bacck disc I will tell her I have a message

but i won't be happy delivering it

[marble hemlock]

ye

tell her shes stinky, and then ask her how many breakfasts she's had

[glacial crypt]

not the breakfasts 😭

[keen spruce]

Top 10 goobie woobies

[rotund oak]

seli and his harem

habibi seli confirmed

[subtle tundra]

I did keys with roiben at some time in bfa, before she was famous 😔

[glacial crypt]

one of our trials right now before she joined disc said "don't tell her but I've had a crush on her for a while"

he's a resto druid player

[keen spruce]

[grand comet]

if i started late a rogue char i should send the free 619 craft on a dagger no?

[glacial crypt]

I'd say so

[keen spruce]

Bruh that’s like “I wanna bang Jennifer in accounting” on your first day of training

[glacial crypt]

WE HAVE A KEY AND TRINKET TRADER AU REVOIR

[keen spruce]

[glacial crypt]

I WILL RETURN AFTER

[royal lantern]

resto druids are all closet furrys and giant subs

[glacial crypt]

so are assa players

[keen spruce]

[rotund oak]

💀

[keen spruce]

Speak for yourself

[glacial crypt]

[royal lantern]

no

we are not closet furrys

[limber lion]

Tryan isn't closeted

[royal lantern]

we are open about it

[glacial crypt]

oh that's so real

[keen spruce]

[glacial crypt]

windwalkers are the same

[keen spruce]

I’m going back to black harvest

[rotund oak]

demolock legit for keys?

[analog summit]

hi, short question. can someone explain to me why? because i have this dagger 😦

[royal lantern]

because its dogshit

[rotund oak]

it also explains why

[viral ice]

what's the best cheap alternative to wax if wax is bugged? 2k for 1 hour of weapon enchants i'm too stingy for that

[rotund oak]

😅

[keen spruce]

Affliction

[rotund oak]

aff is hast/mast man

im gonna be a gigatanker demonsummoner

[royal lantern]

weapon oils ofc

[keen spruce]

It’s assas but far away

[spring moat]

Queen ring op ? Seems like everybody’s bis

[rotund oak]

yeah its big

[keen spruce]

It’s beans and takes an embellishment slot to do damage to yourself

[spring moat]

Lost roll on heroic ovinax ring ☹️

[analog summit]

got it! thx

[keen spruce]

It’s not like, unusable though. Just swap it out once u get enough sparks to make a replacement

[analog summit]

🤝

[viral ice]

oh duh, does deep toxin benefit from KB/DM damage amp or would the flat stats from algari mana be better

[royal lantern]

deep toxin is bad

just use mana oil

[viral ice]

ok thanks dad

[haughty sand]

Haven't played in 2-3 days but why i can't put Bubbling was on mh when it's 619+ it says target too high lvl

[keen spruce]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[cyan summit]

is 1/2 on lethality stilll fine

or u need 2/2 on lethality talent

for raid bosses , single target

[austere bramble]

Guys buff sin ST right???

Buff it amirite

[keen spruce]

How would u get 2/2?

[sharp mural]

well, huh, no lmao

[fallen arch]

It could use a st buff ye

[sharp mural]

Rogue isn't part of the plan until 22th of october it seems

[brisk badger]

somone help me out with why my rupture damage is so low but casted more

[keen spruce]

Can’t buff ST without nerfin spatter

[brisk badger]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hWrzd1YkCjNGMtKV#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=61

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/RygXpm84KvnP3719#fight=52&type=damage-done&source=968

[keen spruce]

that would indicate

that you're rupturing low health targets

and not getting full value

More casts, less hits, same damage per hit

other guy had more rupture uptime

which means they're getting theirs out quicker

[limber lion]

He has hunter and warrior raid buff as well

[brisk badger]

is it not worth to rupture low health targets

and thank you guys

[limber lion]

Up to a point and Sudden Demise helps with it

[pure raptor]

Buff multilate and Deathmarks own bleed damage

[keen spruce]

@brisk badger

this is your first pull

only 3 garrotes and 3 ruptures

compared to

the other guy

[rotund monolith]

can someone give me a quick esay way to pump early out of stealth in M+ ? Its been a while since i played assa; but i recall its something like this. Open as normal but then swap targets to apply rupture AND also move around to see if you can spread it properly ?

[keen spruce]

don't need to move around

[limber lion]

No, Indiscriminate Carnage does that for you

There's no more need to swap targets to multidot

The talent does it automatically for you

Very easy

[keen spruce]

normally don't need to swap targets except for like mass AoE where you want to maximize the number of bleeds of IC

[rotund monolith]

so it only applies to targets that does not already have it?

[brisk badger]

0thank you so send ruptures

[keen spruce]

but you can generally just cleave bleeds off the primary target

[brisk badger]

i didnt even think to do that

[keen spruce]

and it'll be fine

[rotund monolith]

when i read the talent i still read it as i have to change the targets and then try to choose target who has 2 enemies around it without rupture

[keen spruce]

nah IC works like

a venndiagram

one circle around your character

one around the target

[rotund monolith]

so IC will never double rupture another target?

[keen spruce]

and it just picks targets in that circle that don't already have the bleed you're casting

[rotund monolith]

alright cool

[keen spruce]

if everything has a bleed it will

but it smart targets

[rotund monolith]

it doesnt really specify that it prioritizes targets w/o brupture

thanks @keen spruce !

[keen spruce]

yeah they fixed it some time in DF

kind of gave it the replicating shadows treatment from sub iirc

[slim pasture]

!weakauras

[keen spruce]

!wa

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[slim pasture]

ty

[keen spruce]

moroes kinda drunk

today

[soft surge]

https://i.imgur.com/FVKfyFi.png does this mean 48 enemies were silenced

i want that number in my interupts tally

[limber lion]

It doesn't mean you interrupted 48 targets though

Could be that you silenced 48 mobs that don't even cast anything

[keen spruce]

yeah garr silence is tracked like a CC

not an interrupt

[torn merlin]

Just simmed 0/4 vs 4/4 set bonus for dungeon slice and got +3% DPS increase with roughly the same stats, am I missing something or is our set bonus useless this season?

[keen spruce]

u are not missing anything

[soft surge]

is dh sigil of silence tracked as an interrupt?

[torn merlin]

Is our set bonus really this useless?

[keen spruce]

beans

[keen spruce]

idk i don't play flappy class

[pure moth]

No

[keen spruce]

pretty sure only kicks are treated as interrupts tho

[pure moth]

Would be cc

[iron valve]

3% > 0%

[pure moth]

Sigil you put down and goes off 2 seconds later. I assume it's similar to shamans cap totem. Not factored as interupt but a silence?

[torn merlin]

I just expected it to be at least 5-10% dps increase, isn't that the case for most set bonuses?

[keen spruce]

I don't think most are that high

but ours is pretty beans

[torn merlin]

I wonder if the impact will be bigger ingame considering a person doesn't play exactly the same way a bot does

[iron valve]

I would expect it to be about the same because of how passive it is

[torn merlin]

I was thinking maybe the set bonus takes no skill to achieve so it will be a higher % the further away you are from simmed perfection

Just a thought

[keen spruce]

i mean because it's passive it will have the same effect of a bad player and a good player

just gonna be 3% of a lower or higher number

still gonna be 3%

[torn merlin]

I'm not quite sure that is true

[keen spruce]

I mean yeah it's probably worse for a bad player

cuz they're gonna forget to apply poisons to their weps

and drop bleeds

n shit

but assuming like, base level competence

[torn merlin]

Like there will be a bigger difference between damage done with caustic splatter vs auto attack if we compare a good and a bad player, the good player will just have slightly more auto attack damage done but maybe twice the amount of caustic splatter etc

you know what I mean

[keen spruce]

that would indicate that a more skilled player would get more value from their tier set

unless i'm misremembering wtf tier does this season

[torn merlin]

yes but he will get percentually more value out of a skill based ability than a passive right.

but yeah anyway, tier set useless lol

[keen spruce]

oh sure relative to a tier bonus that required skill

[torn merlin]

right

[keen spruce]

a passive one will benefit goobers more

ye

as long as they can keep bleeds on a target

which isn't always the case

but it's just undertuned

i don't mind boring/simple tier

[royal lantern]

what am i reading

[torn merlin]

Assa feels like it depends on the tank and team a lot as well anyway

[royal lantern]

no it doesnt

thats outlaw

assa/sub dont care

[torn merlin]

Yeah, I'm sure you get just as high DPS with a restealth between pulls as you would with no restealth for the whole run

[royal lantern]

i mean, you do

you guys really need to read your talents for once

[keen spruce]

your group will get diabolicaly more damage from 100% chainpulling through the whole dungeon

[royal lantern]

and what they do/how they work

[keen spruce]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote is roughly 10-12% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon
• While Without a Trace can allow for better vanish timings, the difference in damage provided is at most replacing a non-stealth opener with a stealth opener (you aren't necessarily getting "added" casts, just "better" casts)
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[royal lantern]

5bleeds out, you pull a new pack with the current one at 30% hp?

you literally sit at endless energy+20%more mainstat

why would you NOT want that

[keen spruce]

@royal lantern did u see drunk moroes

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote is roughly 10-12% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon
• While Without a Trace can allow for better vanish timings, the difference in damage provided is at most replacing a non-stealth opener with a stealth opener (you aren't necessarily getting "added" casts, just "better" casts)
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[keen spruce]

[royal lantern]

+where does the "i can never stealth" even come from anyway

like, i almost never have a problem with that, most Tanks are slow af and you can do it anyway

[torn merlin]

I think we're talking about 2 different scenarios. I agree on high keys if you chain-pull with 5 targets at 30%, I was more talking about early season pugging stuff where dps is uneven and they bring along 1 mob from the old pull

[runic hinge]

Yeah idk. I haven’t had much trouble getting into stealth. And the only dungeon I haven’t done is stone core

[royal lantern]

but according to some peeps here you get 0stealths

[runic hinge]

Just save vanish

[royal lantern]

stoneVAULT

:p

and that dungeon is a "big pull->clear them up->big pull" until the end

its just confusing

[keen spruce]

I've played full season almost completely pugging all the way to teaming up right below title range

and i've never experienced

"never getting a restealth cuz of bad tanks"

[royal lantern]

you read "omg can never stealth" all the time, and im sitting here not understanding how you guys get that, im pugging allot and 99% of pug tanks pull 1-2 packs and wait until everything is dead and then pull the next one

[keen spruce]

I feel like it's normally conflating ONE experience where a tank pulls a 5% kobold into a boss

and fucks your opener

and you just extrapolate

that into this doomsday scenario

that never actually happens

[royal lantern]

yeha

[strange python]

@glacial crypt so where do I go now

[torn merlin]

That's what I'm talking about as well

[strange python]

Glasgow is big

[keen spruce]

it's mildly annoying and doesn't really matter

[runic hinge]

I’m stuck in the past

[torn merlin]

Obv constant hectic cleaving is better for high keys, but the 5% kobold happens too frequently

[royal lantern]

like, even vanish, im using vanish for a quick restealth like, once every 2 dungeons at best lol

[runic hinge]

Also I just woke up

[royal lantern]

all other uses are normal vanish-as-offensive CD stuff

[keen spruce]

it just don't tho

[torn merlin]

you would do a lot more damage if you used it off CD to get some empowered garrotes out, also Iron wire helps your team with dmg mitigation

[royal lantern]

rupture the 5% kobold and enjoy a energy refresh in 6seconds

[royal lantern]

you didnt even read my followup comment

i know how assa works

trust me

[torn merlin]

If you send your armory and you are top 10 world, I will take what you say as facts

[west crown]

More value to restealth than use it for cooldown windows

[keen spruce]

You don't need IW for dmg mitigation

[glacial crypt]

i will scream

[keen spruce]

just to stop shit that's gonna kill u

same as any other kick

[torn merlin]

Plenty of 3,8k andys misplay some aspects of their gameplay

[limber lion]

Even the r1's do

[keen spruce]

and really if you're needing to vanish IW then your group is probably fkin up pretty bad

[keen spruce]

int dagger

[strange python]

I already have the tacos too???

[glacial crypt]

YO WHAT

GET OVER HERE

[keen spruce]

[open canyon]

is this ring even good for assa? does like 0.9% dmg ST

[normal mist]

it is for every class

full stats ring + extra dmg

[west crown]

The ring is very good

[keen spruce]

it's free real estate

ofc it's good

[torn merlin]

and I didn't fully understand why that copypaste bot put so much emphasis on scent of blood, like you won't even be using scent of blood for the highest keys

[normal mist]

?

[keen spruce]

yeah but people at the highest keys don't complain about restealths so that command isn't for them

[strange python]

Also you lied it’s cold here

[glacial crypt]

you are not in glasgow

you said you'd be here sunday 1am

if you left last night

[keen spruce]

maybe he drove fast

[strange python]

I drive like a maniac

[stoic urchin]

What's the appropriate dps for sin in st? Around 590ilvl

[glacial crypt]

like 20% less than your sim

[tulip token]

heyo just started playing assa and i cant seem to make my mouseover shadowstep work on ally (always says invalid target) is this due to an interraction with a talent or just a bug ?

[glacial crypt]

noharm in your macro?

[keen spruce]

less?

[glacial crypt]

let me check my log from 590 ilvl and i will tell you

[tulip token]

nah maybe thats what missing but i dont have the issue in sub or in outlaw

[keen spruce]

u must have never seen my enchant proc %s

[fair wharf]

Is there some type of list of commands i can use here so that the bot shares its rogue wisdom with me

[keen spruce]

if i'm doing 20% less than my sim i'm jumpin in the ocean

[torn merlin]

Wouldn't this heavily depend on how good his 590 gear is stats wise?

[keen spruce]

depends on ilvl distribution across his gear

[glacial crypt]

sarcasm^^

the logs i have from 590ilvl were heroic week 1 so they're all high because no one had gear

[sinful wraith]

How do I get to this view from wlogs?

[glacial crypt]

showing those would be silly

[glacial crypt]

Cast > timeline

[keen spruce]

casts + timeline

[sinful wraith]

Thanks guys

[glacial crypt]

make sure to select the correct player to view it individually

[keen spruce]

ma'am he was asking me

[glacial crypt]

oop-

[stoic urchin]

Mods here allow setting your nickname as "faschist"? Tf?

[keen spruce]

[tulip token]

@glacial crypt tried with or without noharm didnt get any difference

[glacial crypt]

i don't use a macro for shadowstep so i can't help much more im sorry 😭

[keen spruce]

idk how many mods are here rn or speak... is that russian?

[west crown]

Thats because they run without a trace

[stoic urchin]

Yup

[torn merlin]

What's wrong with that name?

[stoic urchin]

I dunno, everything? Including ideology

[glacial crypt]

political

[keen spruce]

if u got an issue ping a mod about it

let them sort it out

[torn merlin]

what specifically about the ideology violates the rules of this subreddit. First of all it's a joke, secondly, why do you care so much

[keen spruce]

[strange python]

Schmeep

Policeduck

[narrow basalt]

Jesus I cant seem to get a single head or hand drop...

[abstract parrot]

I can't use in my weapon

😭

[glacial crypt]

if you stop caring, they're sure to drop

[keen spruce]

I also can't get a single head smh

i should call her

[strange python]

Looking for head

[narrow basalt]

I wish xD I can only pretend to not care

[glacial crypt]

[vestal wren]

i got 2 more stacks of 20 than you have

[narrow basalt]

So no head?

[pure moth]

You can probably trash them. They don't work above ilvl 610 weapons right now.

[strange python]

It’s been a while

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/staind-its-been-awhile-gif-9954395084979558007

[glacial crypt]

now the drive across europe makes sense

[strange python]

LMAO

[glacial crypt]

u really wanted that desert

dessert?

now the word looks funny

[strange python]

I would’ve cut 7 hours

If I was in Glasgow rn

That would be

Impressive

[keen spruce]

[abstract parrot]

😭

[pure moth]

Maybe toss them in the bank though. You never know if its one of blizards intended issues or not.

[strange python]

Is it about any desert or this specific desert tho

Oop

[glacial crypt]

in thinking like

sand

not ice cream

you get me

[strange python]

Sand

I mean

Could also be a

Gun

Yk

[glacial crypt]

[keen spruce]

[strange python]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-gold-sparks-gif-16004964

[glacial crypt]

that's what my outlaw uses

[torn merlin]

how cool would it be if they added transmoggable pistols for outlaw

[fair wharf]

!pandemic

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[runic hinge]

Not that cool cause fuck outlaw

[earnest remnant]

dont think we have a single moderator that speaks russian or w/e that language is, but ty for letting us know, in future dont be afraid to ping us about stuff like this

[torn merlin]

people these days are offended by the word fascist?

[keen spruce]

it insights political converstions that no one wants to have in here

i'd imagine the same would happen for any name that references any politician or political stance

[stoic urchin]

It's in the discord server rules

[earnest remnant]

its more about keeping this discord for what its for which is for wow and not politics

[torn merlin]

so I would have the nickname "liberal" taken away as well? Genuine question, I have never spoken a word of politics in here and the username is a joke

[keen spruce]

I mean probably

[strange python]

Facism and liberalism is a bit of a rough comparison

But

Enough politics

It got sorted

[earnest remnant]

yes, we wouldve changed that nickname as well

[torn merlin]

Funny how I've had that username in this discord for years without issue before but I guess rules are rules

[runic hinge]

Someone finally could read it

[keen spruce]

I think the russian speaking population is relatively small

in here

Someone make Tony change his nickname while we're at it

he's S-tier

misinformation

[runic hinge]

Not on the hataro tier list

[keen spruce]

yeah but hataro got banned so now you're S-tier

[runic hinge]

Yeah he didn’t release it until after he got banned

[torn merlin]

I guess having your onlyfans in your bio is cool though

[runic hinge]

Probably

[strange python]

Is that politics or

[keen spruce]

on topic

[torn merlin]

Can whoever made my username child friendly at least remove the numbers, looks so ugly

[strange python]

Envenom

[glacial crypt]

lol

[runic hinge]

Brother that is your discord name

[tacit otter]

what are the optimal mark targets for silken court? or always caster boss till shes gone?

[stark scroll]

!ss

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[earnest remnant]

tbf very L steam name, mine is alot better, Raccoondog 24 and lilwaterboarding

[stark scroll]

whats the command for gear

the one that says which mythics drop which ilvl

[hearty reef]

uuuuuuh

[glacial crypt]

need to relink to be fair

[stark scroll]

!gear

[glacial crypt]

that's not been my steam name for a very long time lmao

[torn merlin]

I'm a boomer bro, how do I get the numbers to go away

[stark scroll]

!mythic

[earnest remnant]

!up

[hearty reef]

why is systemic failure still a thing?

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[stark scroll]

ty

[glacial crypt]

Raccoondog24 goes hard

[stark scroll]

so 7s and above

[earnest remnant]

yeah just look at him

[stark scroll]

will drop hero track gear

and tens and above are mythic track

[slate crown]

so god damn polite

[glacial crypt]

SO polite

[vital haven]

is that ai

[vestal wren]

don't expose me like this

[earnest remnant]

this is another one of my steam accounts

and i swear you can hear that picture

[stark scroll]

rawaooooo

[torn merlin]

thanks whoever did that

[glacial crypt]

[keen spruce]

mine is just shmeeps

yall are weird

[strange python]

Shmeeps goated

[dull minnow]

Question.

[glacial crypt]

fire away

[dull minnow]

When looking at Archon or WowHead. The BiS slots are confusing me because Im still learning how to read the site when judging ge.ra.

gear~

[strange python]

You don’t need to look at bis lists at all

[glacial crypt]

the bis lists are just a silly wowhead requirement

[strange python]

Just sim your gear as you go

[glacial crypt]

^^

[dull minnow]

Okie then let me ask this

[glacial crypt]

aim for crit / mastery pieces baseline

[dull minnow]

Is T5 negative returns comapred to T4 ?

[glacial crypt]

it's a 3ilvl diff

[dull minnow]

Sorry I was getting hit that was a bad way for me to word that

[glacial crypt]

It's not a massive gain or loss but ideally you get t5

[dull minnow]

If I have a 4 piece

does a 5 piece give me negative returns

[glacial crypt]

No

[dull minnow]

Okie.

[glacial crypt]

The chest is our "worst" tier piece to use but it's not like terrible

if sim says it's good then just use it anyway, have 4 set no matter what

[dull minnow]

Currently Im rocking 4pc but, I have a guildie that hasnt gotten lucky really and if the helm tier were to drop tonight I didnt know if I should roll or skip

[glacial crypt]

Skip roll

[dull minnow]

If the returns were tiny I was just gonna pass for them to have a better chance

[glacial crypt]

If you have 4 set, optimising stats when people don't have 4p yet is bad etiquette

[pure moth]

I would hope your guild wouldn't be giving someone 5pc without everyone having 4set

[dull minnow]

Ye I Arms and Legs HERO, Chest Champ, and Shoulders Vet

I was gonna rock that until 2 weeks from now and try to replace shoulders with hero if possible

[keen spruce]

okee I checkout from resort. I'll be home in like 12-14 hours

save me some tacos

[glacial crypt]

that's a long way home

[keen spruce]

[glacial crypt]

we're back again any trinket havers

[strange python]

I am saving dw

[glacial crypt]

🙏

[strange python]

100k is like sand for desert

Having to do grim batol yuck

[glacial crypt]

we're just boosting people for their key and trinket chance

the demons we've had in these runs are very cute

[agile geode]

sure bro maybe even a coffe

saw it like now

[raven stump]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[glacial crypt]

I'll get you a freaking coffee

I'll make it myself

but i can't promise it'll be any good

[agile geode]

ahahahahah

31+ run

this is a nightmare

[muted aspen]

Hey! Hello! :)
I read there was some bugged interaction between darkest night and animacharged combo points, which resulted in that I have to manually fill 7CP for DN instead of using charged CPs.
Is that correct?

[glacial crypt]

not anymore

it used to be the case but it's no longer

Thankfully been fixed 🙏

If you have Darkest night AND your marks up on a target though, you'll need to use an animacharged point to clear darkest night or cancelaura - generally shouldn't happen but it can

[glacial crypt]

It's HORRID

This is the run

This champion is going to drop the trinket

I believe

[tepid lichen]

male panda getting loot checks out

[glacial crypt]

🙏

[strange python]

He does look like a Greek god

Adonis some would say

[keen spruce]

Melee hunter is a gentleman’s spec

[strange python]

Agreed

[river patrol]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[plush steppe]

Ive seen 2 people now with 3 Omen crafted pieces (3 636pcs) where do we get the 6th shard?

[timid marsh]

sometimes my WA prefers to use rupture or garrote when its already ticking, should still reclick it then?

[runic hinge]

the weekly

[keen spruce]

!pandemic

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[plush steppe]

the weekly gives us our 6th spark?

i thought that was coming tuesday

[spice surge]

The same weekly that gives the spark fragment every week gave one this week too ye

[plush steppe]

got you ty

[boreal raven]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[past forum]

true or false: the orb/portal from treacherous transmitter always spawn in the same place in relation to you

[earnest remnant]

north east of where your charr is facing

so always top right

[past forum]

okay so maybe it was just me facing weird when i popped it cause i thought it was random, but then someone in my guild said they think its fixed

ty dagger raccoon

[cerulean walrus]

Transmitter

[past forum]

it seems my days of having mental breakdowns (specifically over that trinket) are over

[cerulean walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/cody-ko-noel-miller-no-ugh-bye-gif-17321150

[austere sorrel]

Red wedding reaction?

[past forum]

i have a m0 skardyn's and a heroic transmitter so it's a bigger sim gap than my laziness can account for

[royal lantern]

ok

[hallow token]

Annoyed at being declined for delve after delve, mythic after mythic. Like in delves especially, depending on the scenario inside, rogues can shroud the group pas at least one set of tedious fights. But they just look at the dps charts, see we're not doing well in the current meta, forget our CC and other abilities, and that's that. It is really discouraging.

<-------- sad assassination main

[unreal tide]

bran on heals and shred delve

[keen spruce]

People decline to delves

[past forum]

+8 delve, 620 min. link zekvir achieve or no invite

[runic hinge]

assa is also jucied in delves

idk how you say we're not doing well in the meta

[lapis lantern]

Hey, im thinking about swapping to nightelv, for m+, is shadowmeld like vanish?

[limber lion]

No

[past forum]

its like it in that they are both abilities you can press but it's really inconsistent and only works in dungeon trash (IF it works)

[keen spruce]

It doesn’t put you into stealth on its own

It just will sometimes allow you to drop combat and then stealth

[lapis lantern]

ah ok, interesting. i thought i could ust it like a 2nd or 3rd vanish

[spice surge]

Idk youre probably not getting invited because theres like 100+ applicants to the keys you are queueing for

Because assa is very good in keys

[past forum]

if you're not in boss combat then it can drop you from combat long enough to press stealth but from my limited experience in using it there's like 9million things that'll make you get instantly put back into combat before you can actually get the stealth off

[spice surge]

And from the looks of it its gonna be even better come .5 patch because 12 seconds of master assassin sounds whack

[runic hinge]

Sounds sick you mean

[spice surge]

Or new ER, both of them

[lapis lantern]

ok thank buddy

[spice surge]

Whack as in out of whack, very strong, crazy ye

[acoustic roost]

7s and 9s are particularly hard to get in to as a lot of mythic raiders/top players are still farming gear and crests. If you ever get in and see the list of applicants it’s nuts. Multiple 620ilvl 2500+io people applying

[runic hinge]

I'm gonna run double vanish for 24 seconds of only casting garrote

[past forum]

is it gonna double iron wire or nah? cause if it does i officially quit pvp

[runic hinge]

yes but theyre also nerfing iron wire

and it does have a DR so you won't silence for ever

[past forum]

unless they bridge the gap with full stun dr + blind

[still wharf]

wait so there is a benefit to being NE? if you play mainly mythic+ its an opp to reset when tank chain pulls

that just sounds kinda free

[past forum]

if you're looking for utility from your race i'd say that dwarf is the best cause meld is super inconsistent

[still wharf]

besides costing $

sorry i just want to understand what ur saying

inconsistent like u cant just pop it mid pull while ur dpsing

but is it inconsistent in a chain pull where u are removed from mobs and just pop in rq

[keen spruce]

If you m+ and your spec allows dwarf

U play dwarf

[past forum]

inconsistent in the sense that it has an extremely high fail rate

[still wharf]

so it will fail consistently in the situation i described

[keen spruce]

Yeah like you meld then instantly get knocked back into combat

Both of your example could fail

But it will definitely not work on a boss

[past forum]

shadowmeld does not give you stealth benefits, it just drops you from combat for a brief moment where you can restealth but only if you aren't instantly put back into combat by 1 of many many things and only while not in boss combat

[still wharf]

yeah i understand that. it would help my tank also not have to worry so much about reset

yeah i know that

im talking about a specific use case scenario

[queen cove]

2 months playing wow, 40 days playing rogue assa, still learning but its pretty funny 🙂