assassination

[novel star]

when? where?

or maybe spatter needs a nerf

[waxen oyster]

Imagine if they fix spatter

to work on rash

[earnest remnant]

it works on rash

[white holly]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[rotund oak]

ive ganked ppl for several hours for less

[earnest remnant]

just have adds be spawned right infront

[waxen oyster]

tbh its a bit wild

[rotund oak]

bruh,rly though subs aoe is a joke

[waxen oyster]

that spatter is entirely uncapped

[earnest remnant]

with assa you can just prepare a FAT DN envenom for add spawns into a CT

[rotund oak]

they rly need to do something

[novel star]

yes it makes no sense that spatter is this good

[earnest remnant]

and it does soo much dmg

[novel star]

spatter is the issue here not the other specs

[waxen oyster]

Nah

fuck frost

[novel star]

it is unfathomably overpowered

[waxen oyster]

both specs of it

[novel star]

i meant other rogue specs

[earnest remnant]

just a caustic hit that does like 700k to every mob around

into a massive CT

[strange python]

No sin tree is just really really really complete

Which most rework trees are

[vivid lodge]

so it is best to just listen to raidbots result?

[waxen oyster]

Yeah sin is the only rogue spec

that doesnt get reworked every 2 tiers

[balmy condor]

always, yes

[strange python]

I mean the last rework made it a really complete tree

[balmy condor]

using bis lists for your character doesn't make sense

[strange python]

Wish sub got the same treatment

[rotund oak]

everyone of ur 5 fps claps excited btw

[waxen oyster]

Sub tree has like

[rotund oak]

that fight is cursed

[waxen oyster]

so many talents that are

[rotund oak]

fr

[waxen oyster]

what the fuck is this

[strange python]

Listen to sims and listen to master gardener whispyr

[waxen oyster]

and outlaw just got a random haste tax

[earnest remnant]

imagine if i actually had 5 fps on the fight and not lik 25 when adds spawn

[waxen oyster]

but now they can flip coins at people

for extra dam

[rotund oak]

i had 11 and i couldnt play,new pc or not before they fix their stuff

also its a 2yo SSD

i dont bother

[ashen scroll]

i have to disable details to have 30 fps on adds spawn

[waxen oyster]

Like to me its incredibly funny how sub gets more damage from rupture in aoe

than sin does

[earnest remnant]

thats during parasites

[waxen oyster]

sin out here rupturing for scent more than damage 😭

sometimes at least

[rotund oak]

yeah ive had like 10-11 on parasites

instant altf4

or maybe roll bm hunter

idk

[waxen oyster]

brood fight is

[rotund oak]

[waxen oyster]

listening to your dks and warriors

talk about being meleed

[runic hinge]

Scent is damage technically

[waxen oyster]

every other pull

[earnest remnant]

dunno cant hear them

music too loud

[waxen oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/zyzz-uptempo-zyzz-fist-bump-gif-25235668

[rotund oak]

raccoon camera when though

we can see whispyr

fuu gonna start fuutube guides

raccoon when

[earnest remnant]

never

i will never stream with a webcam on

same reason i dont stream with mic on during progress

[rotund oak]

shy stealthi is shy

ok

[earnest remnant]

people dont need to know what i look like

[rotund oak]

1 euro says u get more subs every stream coz u hot

[keen spruce]

Just get a raccoon vtuber model bozo

[spice spire]

I do

[void pecan]

Since bubbling is bugged? We're doing 2x whetstone again?

[spice spire]

Yes

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-eating-munching-snack-cute-gif-17112439941009877808

[novel star]

should be me

raccoons are such chillers man

[earnest remnant]

you have already seen my face

[spice spire]

Okay and

I wanna see it again

[novel star]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-eating-gif-19824903

[spice spire]

Problem?

[earnest remnant]

yes

[spice spire]

Oh ok mb I respect that boundary

[earnest remnant]

people can be satisfied with watching me suck at rogue

and the occasional mic on stream

[rotund oak]

problem is that u dont suck,thats where it gets interesting

[spice spire]

Bro shut the fuck up

U farm parses u bitch

[paper tangle]

Hi all. You know were can i find macros for assassination.

[earnest remnant]

good parses does not equal being a good player

[runic hinge]

That’s true.

[obsidian latch]

Big number=good player. It's just that simple. 🤷

[earnest remnant]

parsing is easy, being a good progress player is not

[rotund oak]

bro perfoms better than most raiders recorded,calls it easy

[novel star]

most raiders don’t know their buttons it seems

i relearned sin after like a year or 2 of not playing it and get pretty good parses

[spice spire]

Colour is finicky about who they accept I doubt ur bad bud

[cinder geode]

how much vers do you want ideally for high keys as sin?

[novel star]

raccoon guy bein a lil depressed bish but not entirely wrong about the parse thing

[rotund oak]

no breakpoints,no recommendations

u wanna play with high vers go for it

sim is our best friend fam 🙂

[cinder geode]

im not talking about breakpoints just from experience what amount of vers do yall usually run

[novel star]

vers is pretty unlikely to ever be the deciding factor between living and dying a mechanic

nobody who mains sin looks at stats

[rotund oak]

it is in high keys

its passive mitigation

[novel star]

i mean yeah but a pretty small amount

[rotund oak]

well

[novel star]

and how much u need would be different for each dungeon

don’t they have a website for this

[glacial crypt]

I have returned

[rotund oak]

30% vers is 15% dmg mitigation

welcome back weirdo

[glacial crypt]

bite me

So we're lacking boss damage specifically

[rotund oak]

ild cuddle u

[royal lantern]

[glacial crypt]

We need to cut down on the amount of parasite damage

For the big spiders, we can quickly reupture and continue just pumping boss while caustic cleaving off of them

[ebon geyser]

whats the best hero talents for M plus?

[glacial crypt]

Hence the decision to not run CT BUT if you're saying the CT funnel could result in more ST then teach me i beg

[novel star]

deathstalker

lots of prio damage lots of defensive power

[ebon geyser]

tks

[novel star]

damage wise fatebound is not very far behind so in low keys or overgeared vault keys you can play whatever

but ds for pushing always

[rotund oak]

deathstalker looks alot better but if u want something easier Fatebound is cool as well,less tanky though

[tough gorge]

Pretty sure DS clears FB by atleast 5% in keys

[rotund oak]

idk about that

[novel star]

i mean stat dependent but i think that’s correct ish

[tough gorge]

Wasnt it like 2 or 3% before ER fix? Now its fixed, so it should gain a few more

[rotund oak]

before ER fix fb was better

like 1%

[tough gorge]

In keys?

[rotund oak]

yes in keys

[novel star]

those numbers are like ds bis vs fb bis tho

[tough gorge]

I must be playing FB wrong, DS is better for me lol, even before fix.

[fallen arch]

I feel like ds has more wiggle room to play around

Fb just rng gg

[novel star]

fb will not be better for the majority of people

in sims

rn

[runic hinge]

It’s really just gear dependent

[novel star]

ya

[fallen arch]

How so

[tough gorge]

FB likes crit more

[novel star]

crit loses a lot of value on ds

or

gains on fb

same thing

[runic hinge]

Dieslow has fb better by like .8 but I’m DS better by 3.8

[rotund oak]

rn deathstalker is 4%-ish better than fb for me

but i havent started pushing yet,not rly geared

[tough gorge]

Mayne i stacked mastery so much, thats why I noticed DS clearly ahead

[runic hinge]

It’s lack of crit. DS has less value on crit because of guaranteed crit on DN

When every 3rd envenom is auto crit you don’t care about it as much

My rings are haste/mastery and haste/verse so yeha. DS simming pretty good

[blissful robin]

Hey dudes just making a rogue to screw around in open world does sin rogue do okay there ?

[tough gorge]

And while at first, it was annoying to drop the mark in m+. With practice, you can keep it up all the time.

[cold parcel]

guys, does this not work if you have masterful rubys everywhere?

[tough gorge]

If you have the same gem everywhere... they arent unique.

[cobalt sphinx]

that's a unique color

one color

[cold parcel]

so get all different gems in everything for it to function properly

[stark scroll]

sin rogue is great for screwing aroun din open world

go to #pvp

[cold parcel]

is there a recommendation anyhere for them?

[scarlet wyvern]

IS queen trinket any good at all for now?

[spice spire]

Yes it’s very good

[cobalt sphinx]

you could get different colors but the difference is like .09%

when i simmed with 7 sockets

[earnest remnant]

alot of stuff just goes by word of mouth

[scarlet wyvern]

so should i take Queen HC trinket instead of 626 Gloves for catalyst?

i mainly do M+

[spice spire]

Push believed in you and I believe in push

[spice spire]

Idk your life friend. Recommend a sim

[scarlet wyvern]

sim says gloves and trinekt same good

but i guess trinket is for ST

not AoE

[novel star]

sim it and then decide if you want to optimize that annoying trinket

you can get prolly get insane value from it in m+ if every use is the execute cdr thing

[dull cloak]

trinket is better if you can game the cd by executing mobs in m+

[novel star]

but have fun doing that

[keen spruce]

And George believes in quake and I believe in George

[scarlet wyvern]

i guess the trinket is god tier for Sub then xD

[keen spruce]

[scarlet wyvern]

as far as bloodmallet shows

[novel star]

trinket is good for every spec it’s just a good trinket

but it’s a little awkward to use and more awkward to optimize

[plush vessel]

!wa

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[nimble tartan]

u just press it mann

[novel star]

sometimes you have to make your own decision

[nimble tartan]

send that thang

[shadow patio]

What’s the mastery softcap?

[novel star]

[keen spruce]

The wot

[spice spire]

There isn’t one

[novel star]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[keen spruce]

Ain’t no one soft cappin my poison damage

[shadow patio]

Bro didn’t ask for stat weights

And yeah there prob is one

[runic hinge]

Yeah but it doesn’t matter

[crisp pine]

It's at 11.700

[shadow patio]

Ofc it matters wut

[runic hinge]

Probably can’t get enough mastery in s1 to care

[shadow patio]

Brother stop ✋

Pls

[keen spruce]

Ohms ur sound like a big goofy goober rn

Ngl

[rocky sluice]

should I full send my skardtyns gace trinket to 626

[shadow patio]

What’s wrong with that

[rocky sluice]

or save for crafted piece

[runic hinge]

There’s not enough stats on gear in s1 to care about soft caps

[rocky sluice]

already maxed out my two mythic daggers, currently have 30 gilded

[novel star]

ultimately the reason nobody can tell you what the soft cap is is because it wouldn’t be a good or useful answer regardless

nothing will make you sim less

just stop looking at stats

[keen spruce]

Stats run so close together that your character might prefer haste or vers very early on just based on your current gear.

[novel star]

no shortcuts sadly

[keen spruce]

It just isn’t a thing

[rocky sluice]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[keen spruce]

And hasn’t been for a hot minute

[spice spire]

Also read the command. Not just the loose priority

It explains everything

Concisely

[nimble tartan]

my haste vers 636 pants changing them to crit mastery is like 500 dps only we love sin!!

[spice spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/449080055893590017/1280746470815043646/456.gif

[keen spruce]

Coulda just read the first sentence actually

[novel star]

unironically the most based shit ever man

gear is so chill

[nimble tartan]

that was me thinking of how fucked my gear was gonna be cause im love outlaw but my god we chilllinn

[novel star]

nothing to worry about

all joy

[spice spire]

I literally care about trinkets

[nimble tartan]

i have skardyns and mandate...

[novel star]

need skardyns

[spice spire]

Classic omie

[nimble tartan]

rememebr when i didnt take a skardyns mytthic track...

[novel star]

oh god i need skardyns

[spice spire]

I hope your next OP pack is a dud king

[novel star]

please ion a crumb of luck

[nimble tartan]

NOO

i got packs comin wednesday...

[spice spire]

[keen spruce]

[hollow gust]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[faint path]

best mog ever bigfoot rogue

[rotund oak]

[keen spruce]

Why pants

[rotund oak]

wpns are an overkill

[keen spruce]

At that point

[rotund oak]

and pants kinda not there

[hollow gust]

what tier pieces we wanna use?

[rotund oak]

all but chest

[faint path]

it looks cool from behind 😄

[rotund oak]

ideally

[keen spruce]

All are fine, chest is worst

[hollow gust]

ty

[rotund oak]

u r welcome fam

[misty kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/mochi-mochimons-mochimon-kawaii-cute-gif-13105127215766961484

[runic hinge]

What daggers

[misty kernel]

those are best dagger

[faint path]

observer's umbral shiv from jailor raid dont remember the name

[misty kernel]

Int is BIS

[rotund oak]

😅

[normal mist]

that illusions makes them BiS

[misty kernel]

ya sinful

[rotund oak]

not even glorious tyranny

[misty kernel]

@rotund oak

[crisp pine]

holy fuck rip

[misty kernel]

Caustic does so much damage

with Int

Magic = Int

am 2 years in the future

HAHAHAHAHA

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[rotund oak]

ik,was referring in the mog lol 😄

huge pump btw

int dagger bis

[misty kernel]

ya

[faint path]

hahahahahaha

[misty kernel]

int is bis

[crisp pine]

Craft another Int Dagger then

[misty kernel]

ya

[crisp pine]

Ya need two

[misty kernel]

waiting next spark

[crisp pine]

for bigger caustic

[misty kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-elmo-elmo-fire-fire-chaos-chaos-fire-gif-26561992

[keen spruce]

Zero on his villain arc

Again

[misty kernel]

HAHAHAHAHAH

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[keen spruce]

[misty kernel]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

bro i swear

its most fucked up thing ever

[rotund oak]

im laughing through tears

[misty kernel]

we should get refund

i keep getting automated msg

we cant help u

KEKW

spaming tickets

[rotund oak]

😂

[keen spruce]

It’s crazy that you can’t just recraft a spark item into another one of the same slot

For this situation

[misty kernel]

bro

same

[crisp pine]

Icon of int one is the same as the agi one right?

[misty kernel]

with talents

[keen spruce]

Pay small tax

[misty kernel]

from Profs

if u fuck up

[keen spruce]

With mats

[misty kernel]

its over

[crisp pine]

Easy mistake if you're not paying attention I think

[misty kernel]

its so fucked u p

[faint path]

They only refund if u are jdotb I guess lmao

[keen spruce]

Jb had to basically threaten riots at blizz hq for them to fix his in DF

[rotund oak]

the man pushes high keys they dont even care

habibi needs some love as well

[keen spruce]

But instead of them thinking “damn this a problem that really fucks people over, I’m sure others are experiencing what jb is going through”

[crisp pine]

Could also just make one Dagger that's Agi/Int

Idk why there's two honestly

[keen spruce]

They just said “nah I’m sure no one else cares, jb just a high end player that complains too much”

https://tenor.com/view/dave-chappelle-chappelle-show-pop-copy-why-cause-fuck-em-gif-15886017

[misty kernel]

maybe they refund me when i hit 40

[faint path]

hahahaahaha

[keen spruce]

Yeah especially the default ones with no built in embellishments

Makes 0 sense

[faint path]

Blizzard when they have thousand of workers they are slacking

same icons

old dungeons old mogs old mounts

[earnest remnant]

this might sound rude, but people could also just read

[keen spruce]

I mean tru

But that’s like hard

N stuff

[pliant remnant]

Reading?

Ew what is this

school?

[earnest remnant]

kinda like the people that buy pvp tiersets instead of pve

shoulda read

[shy pecan]

[keen spruce]

Stealthi been in good guild too long

Doesn’t understand how elitist it is

To think that everyone just out here

Able to read

Especially wow players

[rotund oak]

ppl do mistakes,it happens

even when u read

[fast nacelle]

hm i dont get why so many top parses have sang. blades skilled with death stalker

when you want to use your energy usually more aggresive

[sterile violet]

can i switch to subtlety when its raid time while keeping all my sin bis gear etc does it work or its not worth it

[shy pecan]

Yes

[waxen oyster]

goat enchant

[versed mica]

From what I understand, then fixing ER with Deathstalker stuff made that build roughly level with nonsang

So if there are fights with downtime sang might be a bit ahead bc it's more damage during downtime

That's my theory anyway

[waxen oyster]

hidden skin for kingslayers honestly goes so hard too

[keen spruce]

The ghosty ones?

[spice spire]

Did Blud just say downtime in my Christian assassination chat?

[versed mica]

I like pairing them with the mythic dazaralor set

[versed mica]

Ye

[keen spruce]

That’s some dratnos propaganda

We don’t use that word around here

[spice spire]

If I were still a green name I would do absolutely nothing about it bud

[cobalt sphinx]

Fatebound good, stealth bad, downtime bad

[waxen oyster]

bone ones

[keen spruce]

Oh ye I always had a hard time finding things that went with them. But look great on their own

[versed mica]

Well when you are comparing sang with that talent that increases ambush and mut damage well

Which one does more during downtime

[spice spire]

Shadowstep

For more uptime

[versed mica]

Ok I will shadowstep the run out mechanic into raid got it

[novel star]

go on

[versed mica]

If anyone dies it's a skill issue

[keen spruce]

Now ur getting it

[spice spire]

You fucking get me

Two peas in a pod

[versed mica]

[spice spire]

[novel star]

that’s a everyone else run out mechanic

[spice spire]

Amen

Cloak the stuff I can’t avoid

Make everyone else avoid the stuff that isn’t my problem

[keen spruce]

I can’t always top the meters for damage

But I can always top avoidable damage taken

And tbh

Health is a resource like anything else

And really what is health if not just healer mana with more steps

[gritty laurel]

healers are batteries, true

[keen spruce]

So really I’m being a team player

Cuz I’m converting healer mana into damage

And I’ve heard healers wanna do damage

[waxen oyster]

I do wish ghostblades were slightly bigger

like marginally

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

[waxen oyster]

blue variants of it work super well with nf illusions

[runic hinge]

I’m helping the healers parse by never being at full health

[kindred dune]

is this trinket combo any good for m+?

[keen spruce]

[cobalt sphinx]

2 refulgent crystals

[keen spruce]

Also helping your own healing parse

100% leech value

[cobalt sphinx]

You take more damage if you use siphoning daggers

[keen spruce]

No no… you simply don’t use siphoning daggers

Ever

[spice spire]

Yeah

Use skardyns during dm windows

And try to snipe some kills with mandate

For bigger and bigger number

[kindred dune]

how does it work? it makes more damage the lower a mob is?

[sonic zinc]

i assume we use transmitter onlyh when we have dm?

or on cd

[spice spire]

Read the last line (that’s in a separate thing)

That + SD should be a pretty easy refresher

[gritty laurel]

ignore me, misread trinket name

[cobalt sphinx]

How many resets are you even successfully getting with mqm

[kindred dune]

gotcha, so u try to nuke one add to die by using the trinket for CD only to 60 sec, so basically you wanna use it when the mob is below 3.4m health?

[grand sentinel]

!wa

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[spice spire]

You have a 2s + sudden Demise

It doesn’t have to be that low

[kindred dune]

ah thats why it makes 4.5M per hit

what is 2s?

[hallow pelican]

the dmg and healing duration

[balmy condor]

the trinket has to deal the killing blow btw you would never be sniping with mandate

it's just that good without resets

like it's THAT good

[spice spire]

Wtf

[kindred dune]

but sniping doubles the amount of usages?

or what am I missing

[balmy condor]

you're never going to be able to snipe

just not realistically possible

[spice spire]

The final blow

[kindred dune]

in m+?

[spice spire]

Has to be the trinket

[balmy condor]

in anything

[spice spire]

And SD

Just

Takes it from 10% to dead

[balmy condor]

you're literally not only fighting the rest of the dps for the snipe

you're fighting yourself

[spice spire]

That’s on me

Mb bob

[balmy condor]

trinket is still very good

[kindred dune]

so is the combo bad?

[balmy condor]

no

[kindred dune]

wie skardyns?

[balmy condor]

trinket is great

[kindred dune]

ok so basically just use it on CD?

[balmy condor]

yes

[spice spire]

Ye

[thorn fjord]

My first mythic weapon is an OL MH 😦

Feelsbad

[spice spire]

Dead to me

[kindred dune]

ok thanks a lot

[thorn fjord]

Got it from loot council

[kindred dune]

and another thing: did I do shit here?

[pastel onyx]

i got like 5 daggers from gb

halp

[kindred dune]

mainhand is 639 from mythic

i wonder if I should have not used the ascendance emb on this dagger as its OH?

[cobalt sphinx]

yeah i figured it'd be impossible to get a reset wtih mandate and never worth the risk of wasting the damage or trolling the cds

[runic hinge]

You’re rerolling

[thorn fjord]

nah i cant OL in raid

i suck

[runic hinge]

Same

[balmy condor]

it's bis

[kindred dune]

so doesnt matter that its offhand? because Ive read that OH has no impact

[balmy condor]

what

it's the same embellishment

why wouldn't it work in offhand

[kindred dune]

ok 🙂 then thanks

was a bit confused earlier

[keen spruce]

“OH has no impact” means it doesn’t have a negative impact compared to MH

Not that it doesn’t work in OH

[twin hull]

what is the nerubian toxic armor patch called?

[modest gale]

in kingsbane window is it better to refresh CT or proc deathstalkers mark?

[brittle swift]

what you guys think is best build wise, i want to take the 1 more vanish charge for m+ but it seems every guide i look thought otherwise

[keen spruce]

Vanish charges don’t refresh independently

[balmy condor]

always mark

[strange python]

DN>everything

[balmy condor]

writhing band

[keen spruce]

So it’s giga beans

[brittle swift]

isnt it still better to chain pack and such ?

[cobalt sphinx]

it's probably fine but the common sentiment is that it is not all that useful

[brittle swift]

kk ty

[balmy condor]

high ranked m+ rogues (like zerocool) play double vanish to great success

but it's not for the damage

and there are specific moments in those super high key levels

where double vanish can be used to control X pack or Y double pull

it's generally just like

if you need to ask

you're not playing at a level

where you should be taking it

[undone flame]

that is with the build for that fight form wowhead i gusse right?

[runic hinge]

#assassination message

[cold sedge]

Does anyone have a nice plater profile you could share with me? I'm having issues keeping track of the mobs which has bleeds on them currently 😦

[balmy condor]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[cold sedge]

Oh, thanks!

[balmy condor]

np

[strange python]

I feel like flipping coins next raid

Sounds fun

[keen spruce]

Zero would find success with a couple of sticks and 3 augs if he had enough cigarettes and mic volume

[balmy condor]

true

[keen spruce]

Doesn’t mean u should copy

[balmy condor]

bro is finding success guildless with an int dagger

double vanish cannot stop him

[keen spruce]

He is inevitable

[blazing pumice]

on four targets, is the 2nd finisher rupture or ct\

[balmy condor]

whichever I guess, shouldn't matter much

generally it's rupture just cause like muscle memory and whatever

[strange python]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[royal lantern]

you know where he doesnt see sucess?

crafting weapons

[balmy condor]

happens

[royal lantern]

atleast it was no stilleto

cus you know how the chat would look then

[runic hinge]

I’m in a hard debate with myself about flipping coins for my raid

[strange python]

Just do it and vibe

[runic hinge]

4% tho in my current gear

And the defensive value

[brave stump]

Whats worse in your opinion:
-wasting spark on stiletto
-wasting spark on outlaw mainhand

[balmy condor]

what does "wasting spark on outlaw mainhand" mean

like crafting an outlaw weapon?

or like

[brave stump]

Yes

[balmy condor]

oh stiletto by a fucking mile lmao

[brave stump]

Like a "friend" of me did

Crafted weapon because thinking outlaw opop

Next day nerf

[woven shore]

@balmy condor i saw you opened on mythic raid with ambush garrot ER rapture

is this better in your opinion ?

[sturdy mesa]

I’d say crafting intellect dagger is worse no?

[woven shore]

did this on my raids yesterday

[balmy condor]

oh 100%

[normal mist]

he was watching tv during the pull and pressed whatever the fuck his fingers matched

[balmy condor]

better than what?

[woven shore]

ambush garrot rapture SAD ER

[balmy condor]

I mean I don't play with shrouded

so

ambush garrote rupture

is fucking stupid

[royal lantern]

we dropped the stiletto recipe a 2nd time yesterday in raid and the other BS got it

[radiant shadow]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[royal lantern]

i just told him "if a rogue orders that one, just do it and say nothing, its dogshit but they deserve it at that point"

[woven shore]

shrouded is the 2 vanish talent right

[balmy condor]

[woven shore]

q_q

[balmy condor]

shrouded?

[woven shore]

aaahh

[runic hinge]

Second vanish is without a trace

[woven shore]

what do you play instead?

[balmy condor]

brother

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/overview-pve-dps

[brave stump]

Little plug

[balmy condor]

not even a little plug

just

I'm not gonna sit here

[strange python]

Modcheck self promotion

[balmy condor]

and regurgitate the guide like I'm feeding a baby bird

[brave stump]

But you do

Every day

[balmy condor]

not for insanely basic questions

[blazing pumice]

is garroting at 6cp still a thing?

[balmy condor]

no?

[normal mist]

if pandemic

[balmy condor]

that's never been a thing tf

[blazing pumice]

idk i think it was in sl

[woven shore]

oh lawl thanks

[royal lantern]

no it wasnt

[runic hinge]

Stealthi secret tech garrote at 6 if DN is up and garrote is >10 seconds. Keeps the insanity of mut on 6 away. Probably a loss but better for the mental Illinois

[balmy condor]

does he actually

[blazing pumice]

i mean if garrote is in pandemic, not just if you are -1cp

[karmic tiger]

hello guys, can someone send me a good video or writen tutoriol of assasin rogue mythic + / aoe opener

[balmy condor]

if garrote is in pandemic you press garrote

[normal mist]

guides

!guides

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[karmic tiger]

those are up to date?

[normal mist]

no

they arent

[runic hinge]

Yeh. Maybe not always but I was complaining about pressing mut on 6 a few days ago and he mentioned it.

[cobalt sphinx]

they are yes

[last oasis]

why is stiletto so bad? i watched whispyr's youtube thing on it, but when i look at it rn it's attack speed is the same as other daggers

[royal lantern]

does no dmg

[normal mist]

replaces a embelishment

[royal lantern]

and also does dmg to you

so its not just no dmg, but also a negative effect

[balmy condor]

yeh they fixed that, now it's just dogshit cause the effect is dogshit instead of additionally also being dogshit cause it was slow

[last oasis]

ah, less poop is still poop, understood

[royal lantern]

polished turd is still a turd

[karmic tiger]

hybrid mythic + is what i have to look at ?

[normal mist]

or bleed

yeah

[karmic tiger]

ty

[balmy condor]

if you're doing m+ and not just like

heroics leveling

should perma play hybrid and nothing else tbh

I probably remove bleed and cleave from the guide or hide it in spoilers or something next week

[noble pollen]

Bleed build feels nice to play

[balmy condor]

cause they're just pointless for 99% of people

bleed maybe sticks around for like the +2/+3 andys on new rogues

[earnest remnant]

did i just feel my name being slandered

[balmy condor]

yeh you're garroting out of pandemic or something

[west crown]

Garrote at 6cp in pandemic with DN up is a niche option where it ok right?

[earnest remnant]

sometimes yeah

[balmy condor]

no

oh

[earnest remnant]

only when i land on 6 and have DN rdy and my garrote is below 10sec

[balmy condor]

in pandemic

sure

too much brainrot in this channel

in pandemic is not a discussion

you're just refreshing the bleed lmao

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-they-mean-random-numbers-gif-10654449

[runic hinge]

I didn’t make it up

[balmy condor]

I mean yeah

[blazing pumice]

ok great so my question was about secret tech

[balmy condor]

but it's not correct

[silent stratus]

why lightweight shiv for silken court?

[runic hinge]

Yeah it’s feel craft

[balmy condor]

cause in raids you're fighting a boss and lightweight shiv is good for that

in aoe it's completely pointless

but raids aren't aoe

[keen spruce]

Whispyr is best boi

[west crown]

When should I use Hybrid vs. Cleave in m+. Like I use Cleave for AP in GB

[balmy condor]

never use cleave

if you're asking when to use a build, you're not a strong enough player and don't play high enough keys to use cleave

[west crown]

Getting the enrage off mobs feels like the right there to do there but ok

[balmy condor]

what

cleave has nothing to do with enrage dispel

[west crown]

Arterial precision and shiv

[keen spruce]

That’s not why cleave exists

[balmy condor]

arterial doesn't even help

you're fighting 1 enrage guy at a time

[west crown]

I understand that but I was just curious if it’s valued like that

[keen spruce]

Is raging still in the game?

[balmy condor]

it isn't

[keen spruce]

Based

[balmy condor]

the mob naturally enrages

[royal lantern]

GB has 4 enemys that enrage

but like

you stun them

[keen spruce]

Ye that’s what lizards are for

[royal lantern]

or the tank moves for 1,2seconds

[shy pecan]

Or druids

[balmy condor]

I just shiv it and it's fine yeah

[royal lantern]

cus the enrage goes away when they dont hit for literally 2seconds

lol

[keen spruce]

That’s not why it exists no. It was about damage profiles

Just not worth worrying about

Play hybrid be happy

[hollow berry]

Lightweight shiv is in the Bleed build, correct? Can it be replaced with something else then?

[balmy condor]

why are you playing an m+ build in raids

bleed is for m+

[keen spruce]

Barely

[keen spruce]

[karmic tiger]

this is the right opener for mythic + yea

[balmy condor]

for single target m+ boss

yeah

[karmic tiger]

what about a pack of mobs

[balmy condor]

then you would use one of the openers for aoe

they're labeled

[keen spruce]

Have I said Whispyr is best boi today

[balmy condor]

I am on the verge

[loud trench]

Any pro gamers have advice on Ulgrax M for not being terrible and losing mark? Lost it twice on a kill and feels bad, was able to vanish into a reapply.

[balmy condor]

we're reaching my daily ravenholdt limit for the day

[keen spruce]

Ily

[hollow berry]

In m+ I have used bleed for low keys. It has lightweight shiv

[shy pecan]

Same

[loud trench]

Just sit on reapply when he goes below like on queen when she phases?

[balmy condor]

yeh, you either carry a darkest night into the intermission or vanish

[royal lantern]

hi on the verge

[noble pollen]

The worst feeling is when you mess up applying a mark and your vanish is on cooldown.

[marble hemlock]

• play without imp garrote to just vanish for it
• make sure you proc darkest night before he submerges and then carry it through the intermission

[past bobcat]

for 1 min when kingsbane is up but not DM are we still using shiv before kingsbane

[keen spruce]

Just play hybrid

[balmy condor]

yeah but the question you replied to was for silken court

[loud trench]

Would be so dope if we could get a cool fix to apply DM to target with an ambush proc if you currently do not have a DM active….

[hollow berry]

Right, thats why I just wanted to resask since I jumped in at confusing time

[keen spruce]

[loud trench]

Or is that asking to much for coding lol

[balmy condor]

I mean that's easily coded

but that's not what the hero talent is

[noble pollen]

hey should bring back Vendetta as a way to apply the mark.

[loud trench]

BRUTHER CALL THE BLIZZARD HOTLINE GET EM TO FIX IT FOR DA BOYS

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

they're not going to do that the same way they're not going to make deathmark aoe

[balmy condor]

it's not about their ability to fix it

[shy pecan]

Should bring back exsanguinate white they’re at it

[balmy condor]

it's just not how it's designed to work

[keen spruce]

[shy pecan]

Hammer time?

[loud trench]

Fair enough haha

[keen spruce]

[runic hinge]

Fix the wax

[keen spruce]

Wax this

I mean

[runic hinge]

[grave osprey]

is macroing Tea with Shiv advised when playing deathstalker ?

[balmy condor]

no

not advised for fatebound either for the record

[grave osprey]

ah okay ty

[nimble tartan]

omg we mutilate on 6?!

[balmy condor]

for darkest night yes

[runic hinge]

If you have darkest night up you always build to 7

[muted hamlet]

7 minutes of just wailing on the 5 man cleave target dummies trying to get the "rotation" down right, does the damage break down look alright in terms of where the damage should be coming from?

[runic hinge]

Thought a different James was typing and my heart skipped a beat

[thorn fjord]

Smoke the wax

[balmy condor]

rup/gar looks a bit low but otherwise fine

[muted hamlet]

ty

[potent solstice]

can somebody explain me why ppl use regicide (crit/versa) and blood-kissed (haste/mast) daggers instead of worshippers pniard (crit/mast). I genuinely dont understand. Is the former ones better only when u have all the BIS items, or in any case?

[runic hinge]

Probably just what they got

[thorn fjord]

They’re the only two hero track daggers I’ve gotten 🤷‍♂️

[runic hinge]

Raids only been out a few weeks

Kinda hard to have every dagger

[tawny pawn]

weapon dmg > stats pretty much most of the time

[potent solstice]

but why is it called BIS then, if there is a better option?

[runic hinge]

!bis

[prisma monolith]

BiS lists are not helpful towards gearing yourself. In order for BiS items to truly be BiS, all items in the list have to be obtained at that level exactly, or else it doesn't make sense. Missing a socket for example would shift your stats slightly. You should always compare your gear through top gear or droptimizer instead.

Pre-raid or Pre-season BiS is especially not helpful, and we do not have any of them. These are absolute meaningless bait for gear that you will be replacing the moment the season comes out. Use Top Gear/Droptimizer to compare against your character

[tawny pawn]

Because there is a time where you have so much Mast/Crit that others stats become equal or stronger

[runic hinge]

Bis is fake stop looking at lists of gear you don’t have

[keen spruce]

I gotta go to dinner stop driving Whispyr insane chat

[runic hinge]

Never

[thorn fjord]

What’s for dinner

[runic hinge]

12 airport beers

[balmy condor]

I stopped reading it's okay

eyes glazed over

[runic hinge]

We’re spending 150$ on dinner but it’s only liquid

[thorn fjord]

That’s me next Thursday On my way to furnace fest baby

[runic hinge]

I’ll be in Tampa for Halloween

[keen spruce]

Italian

[runic hinge]

My brothers wedding tho so idk if I’ll be wandering off

[thorn fjord]

That’s a Thursday 😦

[runic hinge]

It is. I’m there Tuesday -Saturday

[thorn fjord]

Oh nice.. get some red wine mussels

[runic hinge]

Leaving 3;30 in the afternoon Saturday

[keen spruce]

It’s Italian at a Mexican resort in Cancun

I wouldn’t call it “traditional”

[thorn fjord]

So chicken parm and mozzarella sticks

[runic hinge]

Yum

[karmic tiger]

what the minimum targets to use crimson tempest

[balmy condor]

2

[amber birch]

Hi guys, is there a soft cap of crit? so when does crit fall off in relation to other stats?

[balmy condor]

100%

[karmic tiger]

and in mythic + packs do i use fan of knives to generate combo points only after 3 targets or i still use muti.

[thorn fjord]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[balmy condor]

2 for deathstalker 3 for fatebound

[karmic tiger]

thanks a lot

[balmy condor]

np

[thorn fjord]

I played FB like shit yesterday

My rng is no bueno

[potent solstice]

what do you guys think about the pawn addon?

[thorn fjord]

Trash

[balmy condor]

worst addon created in the last 8 years

[sullen hearth]

So wax dead, what is closest to Whetstonees?

[balmy condor]

and has actually brainrotted the community

[grim jay]

Worse than hekili or is hekili older?

[balmy condor]

any mana oil

[thorn fjord]

Whetstones

[sullen hearth]

You a homie

[balmy condor]

rather hekili than pawn

[thorn fjord]

Hekili works well on certain spec/classes

[grim jay]

Bro just buried pawn

[thorn fjord]

Pawn is just horrid

[balmy condor]

like hekili is incorrect sometimes

pawn is just

always bad

[potent solstice]

can you reccomend smth similiar instead of that?

[balmy condor]

no

just sim yourself

[strange python]

Raidbots is your best friend

[grim jay]

I still vividly remember back in the days using statweights and spinning in circles with all the sims and gear changes

Glorious

[balmy condor]

guys I sim stat weights, it tells me ring is better, so I equip ring, I sim stat weights, now ring is worse, are sims wrong

[grim jay]

Ye exactly that or gems

[thorn fjord]

You spin me right round baby right round

[karmic tiger]

am i getting this right ? i play with darkest night, do i have to use 2 times garrote and 2 times rupture when i open ? and does it have to be the same target or i have to switch to another 😄

[balmy condor]

it's if you have the buff or not

if you don't have the buff going into a pack you would ambush

[karmic tiger]

ohhh

[balmy condor]

for your swapping question though

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[amber birch]

i have another short question... do i gain something when i use envenom with 7 combo points or is 6 the max? cuz the tooltip says it only up to 6. So if i use envenom with 7 then i waisted a combo point?

[grim jay]

Tooltip bad

[balmy condor]

tooltips don't go to 7

for some reason

but it works fine

[karmic tiger]

so if i press 2 times garrote on the same target when there are 5 mobs every mob is gonna get it, i dont have to swap ?

[balmy condor]

but yeh just ignore numbers on tooltips for the most part

[novel star]

surely they fix this

[balmy condor]

tooltips just explain the ability, but the numbers on them are actually just full nonsense

[novel star]

some day

[amber birch]

alright thanks mate

[balmy condor]

yes

[karmic tiger]

nice

[grim jay]

In midnight

Where we get 8 cp

And the 8th is missing

[karmic tiger]

you are the best, thanks for your time mate

[balmy condor]

np

[cunning basin]

nah we get even 10 in midnight

you heard it here first

[novel star]

im not convinced by midnight as an expansion name

i guess its alright

[cunning basin]

its their hit single

[novel star]

the last titan is corny though

[grim jay]

Twilight, will be a Crossover expansion

[cunning basin]

World of Warcraft: Midnight featuring Tech N9ne

[balmy condor]

and "legion" isn't

we're talking about wow

[cunning basin]

[novel star]

i mean yeah thats really true

[balmy condor]

wow is corny by design

[grim jay]

No u

[novel star]

idk shadowlands is a cool name i think

well

now that i think about it

like shadow lands

thats pretty bad too

ur right

[hallow pelican]

For vicious venoms, DS ST raid, what # energy are we looking to pool at? 50% or lower?

[balmy condor]

wow is a midieval fantasy game that will just randomly invent crazy technology for nothing more than the fanfare

[hallow pelican]

what? time travel and steampunk demolitions are a total real thing in medievil europe

[novel star]

the sub 50% thing doesnt matter on venoms build

[balmy condor]

like yeh we fight kil'jaeden on a giant spaceship traveling through the literal cosmos and when he dies the spaceshit crashes into a homeworld of the legion where they have fucking giant machines able to resurrect demons for the last 4 billion years

[novel star]

[grim jay]

(by corny I mean tasty, because we all love the corny bars)
(and you)

[keen spruce]

Nah it’s not Americanized. Just not quite authentic. Were getting a table side tasting thing

[balmy condor]

you stay under 50%

[novel star]

i thought that was only to avoid sanguine

[cunning basin]

im p sure i read that in my school history book somewhere abt medieval europe

[nimble tartan]

i was simming and checking the apl and i was like omg its never casting vanish i was so confused

[cobalt sphinx]

wow is an erp game for foot fetishists and furries

[keen spruce]

Like Mexican Italian hibachi

[thorn fjord]

Hell yeah

[balmy condor]

yeah, walking out of brick and mortar stormwind castle to stab wolves with a butter knife

[thorn fjord]

BONE APPLE TEETH MY DUDE @keen spruce

[hallow pelican]

is it proper to feel energy starved or are we watching for 50% and then mashing a mutilate?

[cunning basin]

[balmy condor]

you should feel starved yes

[novel star]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[novel star]

energy only feels good when you get lucky with blindside

and even then if you have sanguine its actually bad because you have too much energy and you dont want it

cock

[cunning basin]

cock indeed

[grim jay]

Why cock

[cunning basin]

y not

[hallow pelican]

tyvm just realized my talents were fucking REALLY wrong for ST but im not used to feeling "starved" so i wanted to make sure im not playing it wrong

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/dripped-cock-swagging-out-gif-26186543

[waxen oyster]

dragonflight

[cunning basin]

yeah this is the spec where resource management matters hardcore

[novel star]

i like dragonflight

i think it sounds nice

[thorn fjord]

NIPS!

[balmy condor]

also you'd think with the ability to open portals and invade azeroth or whatever and giant spaceships with lasers on them like the thing that circled the broken shore just zapping shit, like all this technology

sargeras' best attack is a big stab with a sword? I mean just fucking spend a thousand years building a deathstar or something man what are we doing here you have all the technology ready to go just fuck off and then kaboom and you win

[novel star]

the big himbo dragon innkeeper made me so happy

valdrakken rules man

[hallow pelican]

For the record, Legion as an Xpac for mechanics felt great but the story line was written by Hunter Thompson after he did mushrooms soaked in LSD

its fuckin BATSHIT

[waxen oyster]

legion artifacts

[novel star]

who reads wow story

[balmy condor]

suramar was cool

[waxen oyster]

”here’s ashbringer”

[novel star]

i just press buttons

[waxen oyster]

”here’s some random felhound teeth”

[novel star]

@balmy condor bis velf hair go

[frank roost]

Hi, there was a WA something like kings bane helper for shiv maybe smting more is it obsolete now

[hallow pelican]

"hey go get the Doomhammer" and "hey you need to go get this dagger formed from the bones of an Old God. .. im sure it'll be fine"

[novel star]

theres one right answer

[nimble tartan]

hey guys srry for noobie question but have no xp with deathstalker yet this xpac

how does this interactionwork with stacks and consuming darkest night does it go to 2 stack and u consume that buff at the same time

[grim jay]

I mean we do have all those big bombs aswell, but it always comes down to the soldiers with their small weapons

[runic hinge]

Bugged rn

[strange python]

Legion artifacts still better than hero talents

[runic hinge]

Check third pin

[novel star]

its supposed to but it is bugged so it doesnt do that

[strange python]

Somehow I’m fatebound now

Why?

Idk

I just am

[hallow pelican]

M+ AoE build?

[grim jay]

They were pretty good, except for the early infinite grind

[novel star]

it just consumes dn and keeps you at 3 stacks like normal

[nimble tartan]

okay ty i didnt know sweet

[strange python]

What

[nimble tartan]

so never vanish now in st without improved garr

[balmy condor]

my favorite was that they had to invent lore for the assa daggers because they had the whole "these are garona's daggers" and then nothing else, so they just had to pencil in a bunch of shit about no no actually they're super cool and killed a lot of people don't look just take our word on it, they're REAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLY cool daggers

[novel star]

Yes

you just hold vanish for mark qol

tbh

[nimble tartan]

nice thats p cool

[novel star]

even if the ambush thing wasnt bugged its like 0.7% damage

and if you fuck your mark to some mechanic

you lose a lot more than .7

so id hold it even when its fixed but thats just me

[nimble tartan]

thats v true

[balmy condor]

I know this works https://wago.io/8WWlvpYa9

but it's legit only shiv now

so it's like

pretty much pointless

cause the shiv logic is "when the first shiv is finishing, press the second"

and nothing else

[novel star]

but whispyr i see the rwf rogues using tea in last 6s still

can you explain PLEASEEEE man

[balmy condor]

yeah I can actually

[strange python]

Personally I just play perfect so it never happens

(I lost my mark on every silken court kill so far)

[inland escarp]

[balmy condor]

so if you see them use tea during shiv, that's cause it's optimal to do that, but if they use tea during the last 6 seconds of kingsbane it's cause that's what we did 9 months ago and they never bothered to actually learn how to optimize their gameplay

because they frankly don't really need it

[novel star]

yepge

[balmy condor]

cause race to world first is mostly just about time investment and mechanical play while hitting a dps minimum

and not actually about playing like a robot

[novel star]

idk i saw exile like aware of the new logic for it but saying he still does old way cus used to it and whatever

[grim jay]

But the last 6s of kb are also during shiv

[smoky furnace]

Ooft I've still been using tea in last 3 for mastery

[novel star]

which makes sense

[balmy condor]

yeah see that's not ever been a thing

[strange python]

That was vanish

W a s

[novel star]

lilbro had vanish tea macro

[balmy condor]

so now you got people like kidd just making up new timers that don't exist and don't make sense

[novel star]

naurrrrrr

[smoky furnace]

It wasn't a thing?

[balmy condor]

because there's a little tiny optimization from 3 patches ago

and now everyone is confused and just doing random shit

and I hate my life

[west crown]

Didn’t recognize with new pfp xD

[novel star]

its kind of funny that like the optimal thing now is

the way more obvious one

and all this shit is just overthinking

[strange python]

I like lightweight shiv logically

[thorn fjord]

@balmy condor You're beautiful

My favorite Murloc

[strange python]

Just have shiv up while duration

[hallow pelican]

i was wondering why u sounded so angry during that Livestream about classes with Max before WW release

[strange python]

Nice and easy

[gritty laurel]

so much mental damage on whispyr i thought i was in the spriest discord for a minute

[balmy condor]

thanks I need to dye my hair again though kinda ugly