assassination

[blazing jewel]

I’ll imp garrote you quake

[thorn fjord]

No imp gar <- IMP Poison <- 2 VV are what the sims look like for me so i just run the imp poison build with Sang

[rotund oak]

ild make some pasta for @final star @spice spire and you

couple of beers

[spice spire]

Hell yeah

[rotund oak]

[spice spire]

Bring me the sink demon

[vernal gate]

Is it better to FOK instead of mutilate at 6cp with darkest night?

[spice spire]

Depends on the build

Oh wait

No

Sorry auto pilot

[grim jay]

running sang builds willingly, the true masochism

[spice spire]

Just send mutilate

[deft cliff]

Hey I need help: Is mandate really hitting that hard?
I have 606 mandate and 613 Skardyn's in my vault.
Sims say I should take mandate (7k more dps even if I upgrade my Serum in other slot to 613 with valorstones). Should I just trust the sim or am I being sim-trapped?

[final star]

[thorn fjord]

I like pressing buttons

[spice spire]

Do you already have skardyns?

[rotund oak]

🫶

[deft cliff]

Nope

[spice spire]

[grim jay]

but you press the same buttons

[spice spire]

Oh wait

What slot is skardyns on

1 or 2

[thorn fjord]

at a higher frequency

[deft cliff]

In the vault or gear? Wdym?

[spice spire]

When you sim

[grim jay]

debatable, I dont think it changes much on the apm side

[deft cliff]

Im just hoping I can take Skardyn's with good concious so I dont have to run the dungeon 😄

[spice spire]

It should have skardyns in a place first or second

Because if it’s second

That’s the issue

It’s not running during CDs

[keen spruce]

Gm quake

[spice spire]

And ur losing dam

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

But if it’s first

Bad news

[deft cliff]

Ah ok got it. Im gonna resim

[spice spire]

@keen spruce GM king

[deft cliff]

Its in second with the serum

[granite bluff]

Guys whats the best way to sim vault? is there an option on raidbots?

[deft cliff]

Thanks!

[grim jay]

yeah thats pretty not good

[spice spire]

Do you have a different trinket?

[spice spire]

Top gear

/simc your vault

And all options will show

[deft cliff]

Yeah the serum on use atm. Dont want to play transmitter since its so awkward to use

[spice spire]

Bad news

[grim jay]

just run a topgear sim and select all your trinkets

[spice spire]

It might be a transmitter angle until you get a better one

The tech

[deft cliff]

I have and thats where its putting skardyn's in second slot

[granite bluff]

thx

[spice spire]

Dm skardyns and transmitter non dm kingsbane

[grim jay]

thats weird

[spice spire]

It’s not that weird

Mandate going second because it’s agnostic

Versus two stat on use trinkets

Only one exists during windows

[grim jay]

miss me with your fancy words

Dr Quake

[spice spire]

I’m not w doctor

[grim jay]

but you are a W

[keen spruce]

He’s an L doctor

[spice spire]

Nah

[deft cliff]

Ok thanks guys. Ill sim it manually

[near magnet]

anyone that looted grace from gb <20 runs?

[grim jay]

me

3

[near magnet]

jesus

15 runs so far

to get a hero one

[grim jay]

yeah might be a long journey

big ass lootpool

[near magnet]

iam gonna stop at 25, took me 72 runs in s3 to get nick of time

[proven jasper]

I had like 67 runs of doti and then got my daggers in back to back runs

near the end of the season

[near magnet]

feel u mate

rng god

[proven jasper]

Crazyy

[tepid lichen]

i gave up on it

[thorn fjord]

What are you fishing for?

[grim jay]

the highest ive had was like 96 or something plaguefall runs for the trinket

[proven jasper]

Plaguefall trinket my beloved

how i miss u

[near magnet]

got it from a m0 in shadowlands and spent like 2-3k valor to upgrade it, prob 50-60 runs, good old days

[twin sentinel]

Hello guys, one fast question. What embelishment should i play if i focus mainly on m+ ?

[grim jay]

!Craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[thorn fjord]

I can do both my crafts if I manage to grind out some more 10s

Let’s see how the weekend goes

[calm nymph]

okay i think im finally starting to get my rotation down

[grim jay]

idk getting the crafts on mythic crest ilvl is kinda wasted unless dagger

[dusty trellis]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[grand trail]

boss dmg in m+ be like 😄

just nom nom them

[subtle tundra]

Yea just get given the trinket 😩

[grand trail]

just loot it

[subtle tundra]

Not how it works with a loot council 😔

[static glacier]

outside of the stars aligning our bos dmg in m+ sucks i swear

[grand trail]

yeah idk i play it for fun

[subtle tundra]

No need to swear

[static glacier]

did 1.2 with lust and all but normally it's not good

[subtle tundra]

It does

[static glacier]

why is rogue tuning this patch so wack

[proven jasper]

Yeah meanwhile feral double my st damage

And aoe damage

[grand trail]

we split and we were only two still needing it

[static glacier]

im out here losing to a guy litterally pressing lightning bolt 7 times in a row

[proven jasper]

skillgapped

[subtle tundra]

3 splits

Every week

[grand trail]

shees

we have it dropped from like each kill too 😄

[magic gale]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[cinder wing]

should i trust the dungeon slice sim saying skardyns and ritual knife is simming higher than skardyns and spyglass

[potent moon]

you guys got a tip where to start if someone has never used weakauras? or is it easier to get into than i think it is

[topaz pebble]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[potent moon]

so just follow that and ez life?

[grim jay]

no reason not to

[cinder wing]

aight thanks

[pure moth]

You basically pick and just import it into /wa . good to go after that

[signal badger]

Question, how do we effectively deal with the queens pull in during p1? I feel like I have to sprint out or die I should be shadowstepping not sure if we can do it after the pull or if we have to do it to a ranged to get the distance. Thanks in advance!

[potent moon]

oh sweet, thought i'd mess up my ui to all hell 😄

[potent moon]

shadowstep for me turned out to land in her aoe

bc funny haha

[ancient rain]

is numbing or atrophic better for raid?

[signal badger]

Yeah, im wondering if ss'ing to an ally kills the pulls momentum or if you need to do so to a ranged ally so you dont get pulled in

[pure moth]

Atrophic

[thorn fjord]

Atrophic the only reason we're in the comp

hue hue

[potent moon]

i think it's a "move player during this cast by this speed towards boss" kinda thing, bc i did ss to an ally to get out shortly after is started and still got pulled

[signal badger]

sick so ranged it is thanks

[potent moon]

loving it right

[potent moon]

but the idea i had was to just make a macro to a player i know will be out of range and press that before it starts, so i effectively only lose the time of being moved

[pastel burrow]

Hey I hope someone can help, since English isn't my main language, I have a hard time fully understanding Echoing Reprimand.

Lets say I pop it and 3 "anima combo points show up", is there any difference if I fill up all 3 anima points or just the first, to my finisher?

Thanks!

[royal lantern]

? i dont think you understood the talent there

[potent moon]

whichever one you land on will make your next finisher act as max points

[signal badger]

yeah i have a macro to a mage friend, just hadnt tested it yet and was curious if someone had

[potent moon]

arguably it not killing the momentum is better bc it moves you back in faster than you'd run

[royal lantern]

how echoing works is:

you use the ability, and either your 3rd, 4th or 5th CP get charged (with the followup talent all 3 do at once)

when you use a finisher when you are at the number where a charged CP is, it counts as a 7CP finisher and its consumed

[pastel burrow]

Thank you guys so much. So if u have both talents, you just ship it as soon as u gain 1 or 3 anima combos

[royal lantern]

yes, you use a finisher when you land on it

[pastel burrow]

❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[royal lantern]

doesnt matter what finisher, just the one you would use regardless

[potent moon]

usig a finisher on a charged combo point makes it 7cp yes

[pastel burrow]

U guys are awesome. I wish you a wonderful day/night!

[potent moon]

you too man!

[stark scroll]

my brain just immediately tries to find the caustic spatter damage without looking at context of the data

[calm nymph]

lol

[stark scroll]

you have everforged dagger with focusign lens?

[calm nymph]

yeah

[stark scroll]

what ilvl

[calm nymph]

619

oh me?

im 610

[stark scroll]

no the dagger

r5 runic

why focusing lens over ascendant

?

[fresh kayak]

Is sanguine blade worth it for single target? If so, should I always maintain my energy above 50%?

[stark scroll]

simmed better without bracers?

genuienly curious and I dont not know any better so just wondeirng lol

I simmed all 619 everforged variants and even without bracers ascendant outperformed

[pure moth]

!pool

[shy pecan]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

• For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[keen spruce]

[pure moth]

I tried lol.

[keen spruce]

It’s all yap Stonks

[pure moth]

Exactly.

[fresh kayak]

I've seen it, but does that mean I should still do sanguine blades on a single target?

[hasty moat]

Guys, could u help with Enchant Weapon ?

Is there some kind of universal option for M+ and raid?

[spice spire]

No

Just choose depths or radiance

The difference is negligible

[thorn fjord]

Spoiler alert Depths R3 is TAXED

[cloud basin]

Im wondering if we will get the SoD weapons in retail, cuz i kinda like the rogue dagger lol

[twilit lagoon]

For Rash, the "recommended" build on wowhead takes Imp Garrote and shrouded suffocation, but the other ST fights take imp poison and dashing scoundrel. Why the change for Rash? Is it because the bleed is stronger during execute?

[blissful spire]

when we take arterial precision do we just drop shiv on cd?

[spice spire]

M+ sure

St no

[blissful spire]

for court

raid

[spice spire]

4th pin

[earnest remnant]

this løpøv guy was kinda cranking for his gear ngl (dont mind my details name)

[spice spire]

No

[midnight mist]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice spire]

I hate you so much

What was his ilvl

[earnest remnant]

like 6 lower than mine

[thorn fjord]

What key?

[blissful spire]

so save for dm and kb like usual

[earnest remnant]

so like 617

[spice spire]

And what’s yours

[spice spire]

Yeah just kb

[blissful spire]

cool thanks

[hasty moat]

The difference is insignificant, but what do you think will be more universal?

[thorn fjord]

Kinda low for 617 depending on the key tbh

[earnest remnant]

was just a quick in and out dawnbreaker

[spice spire]

Dog I’m doing that 10 ilvl lower 💀
But every key different etc etc

[sudden swan]

he also probably got very little sudden demise since double rogue and he was less geared

[earnest remnant]

he wouldve had to desync his DM's to mine

[spice spire]

He’d also have to Desync his DN’s

[pastel onyx]

[spice spire]

[pastel onyx]

How is coming back to game

Treating u

[spice spire]

Good

I’m a filthy casual

It’s kinda nice

[pastel onyx]

Ye same

Having a blast with assas

How is George doing

[haughty lantern]

you can't spell assassin

without ass - fart garfunkle

man

trying to pug keys as a pure dps class is

PAIN

[pastel onyx]

Ye, I miss the stack I used to run keys with in SL

[haughty lantern]

i feel as if I need to quite literally do each dungeon step by step

like do grim butthole at a 2, wake at a 2, mists at a 2, etc

then do each one at 3, then at 4

as if I don't have the ilvl or expertise to jump multiple levels at a time (i'm 611)

[keen spruce]

I should make guides on networking in wow

[pastel onyx]

[proven jasper]

I went from 2’s to 5’s but i also play with a group consistently

def helps

[keen spruce]

How yall still pure pugging in 2024

[proven jasper]

Yeah i could not play this game

[haughty lantern]

ye, my guild group cleared a 5 wake like it was nothing

[pastel onyx]

I like pain

[haughty lantern]

go back to sub chat then

[pastel onyx]

Too far

[iron geode]

this mage tho 💀

[haughty lantern]

on fights that don't punish melee i am always competing with my arcane mage friend (when he manages to stay alive, poor squishy bastards)

there's like 5 of us that compete for the top dps spot

• me (sin rogue)
• ww monk
• feral druid
• this one BM hunter (he's been my rival for a long time)
• arcane mage

[iron geode]

yeah when i died on a pull i thought i was done for haha

[keen spruce]

Arcane very squishy when they run out of their 40 defensives yes

[dim otter]

hey for crafting, should i put ascendance on my bracer and the armor banding on my belt?

[haughty lantern]

like on Ulgrax, where the add phase is so like....bullshit, AND ranged

I easily fall to like 6th or 7th and all the ranged dps pull ahead

but on Broodtwister I am top of the meters and it ain't even close

[keen spruce]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[dim otter]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[dim otter]

yea but ive already crafted the armor banding

is it worth to swap to crit, or keep going ascendance

[keen spruce]

Idk

Define worth

[haughty lantern]

why....would you craft the armor banding before making ascendence? that very much sounds like a cart before the horse situation

[keen spruce]

[dim otter]

i had ascendance on my wep

i am replacing my wep with a better wep

now i have no ascendance

do i keep crafting ascendance or re-evaluate for double crit

[haughty lantern]

so then by that logic your bis embelishments are double dawnthread

problem solved

[keen spruce]

I mean it’s very much a personal choice based on the info above

[haughty lantern]

this too.

Do you do a lot of m+ or only do raid?

i feel like instead of a text dump we need to have one of those flow chart infographics

[keen spruce]

No one is gonna have more information about your character needs than you

We can only provide data

[junior aurora]

put ur ascendance weapon in offhand?

[keen spruce]

And memes

[haughty lantern]

the greatest of shitposts

[keen spruce]

[haughty lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/cucui-cucui-ganon-ganon-ganondorf-terminal-montage-gif-23346173

you seemed to have caught me

Mid Suavamente

[clear nexus]

enchanted gilded harbinger crest, how do I get em

[junior aurora]

from enchanters

[clear nexus]

crafting order

[prime latch]

hi any new players here want to lvl via dungs (retail)

[keen spruce]

Work orders from enchanters ye

[stark kraken]

just make public one crests are done quickly

[clear nexus]

who's selling them unenchanted ones

i dont have google btw

jk was more complícated than i expected

lemme figure it out

thanks

[haughty lantern]

vendor right next to the enchanting table

[haughty lantern]

i membah the days when i could yoink dracothyst from work orders

[keen spruce]

Early crafting rework was the Wild West

So much gold

[haughty lantern]

i mean now tho is the fucking roaring 20s

i've made nearly 3 million gold in....how long has it been since launch? 4 weeks? 5 weeks?

[keen spruce]

I don’t have a sub

[keen spruce]

I just log into ptr and beta to make WAs lol

[haughty lantern]

you poor thing

[waxen oyster]

Yeah I mean

if you got ahead on crafting market

or sell rocks

[haughty lantern]

<-- sell rocks and sticks

sometimes skin

i literally have a route that i do where I skin every skinnable rare each day

[uncut knot]

Hey, is it even worth to farm delves for Shadow-Binding Ritual Knife ? i've seen a lot of assa running it in M+

[haughty lantern]

easily make a few thousand from that (they drop the blue rarity hides and chitins guaranteed)

[haughty lantern]

ok pop quiz: HOW would you farm for it

[uncut knot]

By that i mean do 8 delves and pray for chest?

[haughty lantern]

is there a repeatable thing you can do that offers it? b/c afaik bountiful delve keys are limited and farming for a map is like farming for a shiny

[uncut knot]

I thought so too but i dont get why almost every assa i've seen has it

[keen spruce]

The trick is to level a chicken, find the Chinese bot herds and just tag/skin all of the mobs they’re killing en-masse

[haughty lantern]

ok so here's what you do

go run a personal gear sim (far right tab on raid bots)

compare a [619 broodsac + skardyns] to a [619 broodsac + ritual knife] to a [619 ritual knife + skardyns]

that would tell you which combination of either the ritual knife or our 2 bis trinkets would be strongest for you.

Only you can determine what is worth farming for (idk how insane you are)

[uncut knot]

My caracter name is Bigdmg

Thanks

[haughty lantern]

why are you expecting me to do your legwork?

[proven jasper]

[uncut knot]

Im not

Gonna check rn

[late ravine]

Do we just craft 2x 636 daggers? got 1 belt and 1 dagger atm

[keen spruce]

I mean a lot of people farmed it before other content came out

[haughty lantern]

who is we? you speakin french?

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[spice surge]

Offhand is the least impactful slot, pretty much every other slot is better

[keen spruce]

And it’s competitive with similarly ilvl gear

[spice surge]

Just upgrading gear is almost surely better

[haughty lantern]

offhand is LITERALLY just a stat stick right?

[proven jasper]

Yes

[spice surge]

Not literally, but very close to it yes

[haughty lantern]

Sin Rogue's 2 "throughput" stats are crit and mastery right? or is it haste mastery? (yes I know we like all stats i'm just trying to put together my objective shopping list, based on my droptimizer sims and general consensus of what stats give damage)

[spice surge]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[keen spruce]

All 3 directly impact your damage

4*

[mortal vault]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[keen spruce]

And which one your character needs the most at any given time

Will change

Based on the gear you’re wearing

[haughty lantern]

which is why droptimizer is needed to check for the biggest gains

damn i hate how fluid this system is. But I understand how it works (BM hunter was kind of the same way at very high gear levels)

[spice surge]

Idk just get the highest ilvl

[uneven plume]

can shadow-binding trinket be hero track?

[keen spruce]

Yeah I mean just forget the rest of the stats exist

[haughty lantern]

like outlaw is extremely simple

• reject mastery (near useless stat)
• get haste to 10 or 20% (depending on the build your running)
• stack crit and vers for damage

[uneven plume]

or is it maximum champion

[spice surge]

Yes

[keen spruce]

Agi is the only important stat

[spice surge]

If you get it from a map or from the weekly vault

[keen spruce]

Until you’re in fully upgrade myth track

[haughty lantern]

CAN be? yes. good luck finding one at that track tho

[uneven plume]

that trinket low key is filthy

[haughty lantern]

nah, leech most important to stay above 80%

[keen spruce]

Avoidance most important so you don’t fall below 80% in the first place

[haughty lantern]

isn't avoidance only aoe damage?

[faint path]

Guys I wanna ask something does slice and dice affecting our dps that much?

[spice spire]

Yes

More autos = more poison applications

[haughty lantern]

yes

[haughty lantern]

= moar dots

https://tenor.com/view/more-dots-gif-10004432

[faint path]

sometimes I'm literally forgetting to use it literally

[keen spruce]

Significantly yes

[frigid pilot]

when leech is the only thing you can depend on

[keen spruce]

Very very much

[haughty lantern]

thanos would be proud (do it yourself)

[frigid pilot]

im hovering 30-40% hp entire fights

wild

feinting on cd

[haughty lantern]

punt your healer into the sun

b/c clearly they ain't doing their job

[frigid pilot]

some say its cus if ur slot 5 in grp 1 or grp 4

its the corner

and healers dont use aimlabs

[haughty lantern]

i color coat my shopping list to match the dungeon it's from

• haste/mast shoulders - flying type (b/c dawnbreaker is in the sky)
• ring and trinket from Gim Butthole (it's an underground fortress, therefore rock type)
• dagger and trinket from necrotic wake - yucky bug puce b/c necrotic
• Maroon for Ara-Kara for the black blood

chest bracers belt and pants are all green b/c i have those at hero track

[keen spruce]

[stark scroll]

[keen spruce]

But why

[waxen oyster]

can be hero from delve map or vault

[haughty lantern]

b/c my inner monologue is a ball of spaghetti

i need to get the thoughts out of my head and onto paper where i can sort them out

[plucky patio]

Is Dungeon slice a valid sim for m+?

[keen spruce]

I always just “i need witherbark branch” -> go run dungeon that drops stick until i get it

[haughty lantern]

kind of

[keen spruce]

Then “ok I need daggie” - go run dungeon until I get daggie

[haughty lantern]

it's the best thing we got to emulate what our cleave damage looks like (i think)

[dapper cradle]

bro zerocool looks so cute with his hair down

[keen spruce]

[stark scroll]

you have inner monologue?

[haughty lantern]

i am the same level of insanity but sadly sometimes I cannot run ara kara back to back to back to back to back and i can only get in to other dungeons

[haughty lantern]

several

[stark scroll]

how does yours function

[haughty lantern]

plz help

OH THAT'S THE FUN THING

they don't

[stark scroll]

they

voices

yeah they dont ever stop

[keen spruce]

[stark scroll]

i find 852 hertz sound

just blasted

will clear the voices

[dapper cradle]

the brown note goes hard fr fr

[haughty lantern]

sometimes i can get the voices to sing in a chorus, then i get some amount of clarity

[stark scroll]

https://youtu.be/7wAb8_STOs4?si=c5jtA_YS5lUKwzZP

listen to this

[haughty lantern]

so the Rasha'nan cloak provides no offensive value (where as the siikran neck provides a smidge of versatility and the ansurek ring is stonks)

how strong is the safety net on Rasha'nan? is it worth the dps loss of keeping a 619 champ version?

[stark scroll]

itll turn them off

[dapper cradle]

sim it bro

it's got giga crit

and the haste isn't bad if you're playing hybrid build

[haughty lantern]

don't steal my line

[spice spire]

Isn’t siikran a neck

[haughty lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

[haughty lantern]

ye

[spice spire]

Oh you just mistyped

[haughty lantern]

sorry i have the dumb

[spice spire]

Got it

[keen spruce]

I finally found

The catcat insta

[haughty lantern]

i found you, faker

[keen spruce]

I have the full library

[manic anvil]

can someone pls share with me sin talents for pvp?

[haughty lantern]

#pvp

[nova aspen]

finallyyy

mythic wep gaming

[haughty lantern]

ye like i KNOW imma be needing an E G G for the rest of the season, so i am desperately truing to get my hands on a champ track one first

before doing anything else

[haughty lantern]

are you....also on thrall?

i recognize the name Meltis

[nova aspen]

i am on thrall

[stark scroll]

I recognize that name too

[nova aspen]

lol

[stark scroll]

I am on bleeding hollow thought

[haughty lantern]

i knew i recognized that name

[stark scroll]

meltis

[haughty lantern]

my friend who posted in our guild discord had something crafted by them too

[keen spruce]

But why not hero track?

[haughty lantern]

eyo if you ever need herbs or skins or rocks hit me up. Will give you a discount price

[haughty lantern]

i made this same argument to my guild this morning

[nova aspen]

hell yea

[keen spruce]

Farming champion track

Is like

[stark scroll]

Can you enchant my weapon for me bro

[haughty lantern]

since champ track and hero track BOTH max out at 619 due to runed crests, and champ track is easier to acquire, a champ track version is likely a safe bet for at least a few months

[keen spruce]

The definition of inefficient

[haughty lantern]

no i cannot. I main gathering. ADHD hunter gatherer go brrt

[haughty lantern]

did you forget the conversation we had earlier about pugging into keys

[stark scroll]

did they get rid of first aid

?

[haughty lantern]

yesn't

it's baked into tailoring now

[stark scroll]

gay

[keen spruce]

A very long time ago

And don’t use gay as a derogatory

[stark scroll]

if they didnt show us xalatath toes i would quit rn

[haughty lantern]

i am trying to "stepping stone" my way through pugs

currently am at the +4 level.

i feel like trying to jump directly to 7 would be a losing battle and a waste of time

[stark scroll]

I am at +4 too

[haughty lantern]

got to stay

what's the fuckin word

gotta set expectations

[stark scroll]

but I just upgraded my dagger

[haughty lantern]

gotta be reasonable

[stark scroll]

huuugggeee upgrade

so will try some 6-7

[keen spruce]

[haughty lantern]

i'm the only rogue in our raid team. I was the only candidate for the regicide that dropped

ANYWAY gotta go

[stark scroll]

hahaha

[keen spruce]

Just depends on the groups u have access to

[haughty lantern]

be back in a few minutes once i get to car

[stark scroll]

I wish I had a raid team

[keen spruce]

They’re not like… endangered

[spice spire]

Apply! Plenty of guilds want a rogue

For some reason

[stark scroll]

atrophic poison op

[royal lantern]

you dont????

[stark scroll]

yes i do

But i recently learned it is not common to have a inner monologue

specifically one that can fluently speak

most peoples only operate via pictures images

[normal mist]

wait for real

[stark scroll]

the ability to hold a conversation in your head is rare

seems to be highly correlated to adhd

[normal mist]

When i need to speak to someone smart i just have a inner monologue

[stark scroll]

every wakign second of my life I am having an inner monologue

it never stops

even right now as I am typing this the words I am typing are being repeated in my head

[timid marsh]

Is it exhausting?

[shy heron]

I'm out here overachieving because I still mumble to myself even if I can work it out with words in my head anyway

[stark scroll]

very

[runic hinge]

yes

[stark scroll]

Is yours photographic

[neat laurel]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[stark scroll]

everyone in my family is unable to hear a voice in their head

only me

[keen spruce]

Pretty sure this is influencer cap

[stark scroll]

what influencer is talking about this lol

[keen spruce]

Idk like all of otv

[raven dew]

i saw somehwere that assassination is all about maintaining envenom buff. so does that mean if i have max combo points but i have time left on envenvom buff, i should wait (pool energy) before using the next envenom to refresh the buff?

[stark scroll]

neil degrasse tyson spoke about it, definetey not an expert in this field

[keen spruce]

And otv associates

For like the last year

[stark scroll]

but i wouldnt call him an influencer

[keen spruce]

Or two

[spice spire]

In between CDs

Ye

[timid marsh]

Try to see it in a context helps your brain to proces and finish it rather than repeating it . Thats why it exhaust you

[spice spire]

On CDs you slam the envenom though

[raven dew]

oooh so CDs being mark of death, and shiv?

[manic quartz]

What build yall rocking in m10?

[keen glade]

!craft

[spice spire]

Kingsbane

!crafting

[raven dew]

ah ofc that one too :P

!crafting

[stark scroll]

tried and true sin hybrid

[spice spire]

Oh

!crafts

[keen spruce]

I think everyone just using hybrid

[raven dew]

!crafts

[spice spire]

Oh moroes dead dead

[keen spruce]

For everything rn

[raven dew]

😂

[runic hinge]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[keen spruce]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[keen spruce]

U goobs

[raven dew]

hahaha there we go

tyty

[keen spruce]

[stark scroll]

!transmog

[runic hinge]

#transmog

[manic quartz]

i dislike the one shiv hybrid because my brain is hardwired to use it at the start and not at the last 8sec of kingsbane 😄

[keen spruce]

Perfect st execution isn’t that critical in keys tho

[manic quartz]

i've been doing about 1.3-1.4m dps depending of the isntance.

[keen spruce]

Sounds fine but idk what is good anymore

[manic quartz]

615 ilvl

[keen spruce]

Zero did 2m overall in a key but then Crafted an int dagger and started playing double vanish

[manic quartz]

god i laughed at that

[severe sparrow]

Oh fuck the amount of times I send the single shiv right before kb is oof

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/approximate-adventuretime-knowledge-gif-4730015

Im basically just this guy now

[spice surge]

Did he do the oopsie and crafted a int dagger?

[prime latch]

any new players here want to do some dung grinds / lvling?

[spice spire]

You always have been

[keen spruce]

According to the screenshot I saw 👀

[prime latch]

? i wasnt home

[keen spruce]

but I used to have more useful info

Sometimes

Or specific

[runic hinge]

"just proc sophic for over half the fight, its easy"

[stark scroll]

lol

i dont think I am to antagonistic on double vanish

but whats up with the intell dagger

[keen spruce]

#assassination message

But i should be

U*

Int daggie was just a woopsies

[idle siren]

is it better to hold echoing reprimand for kingsbane/deathmark or just send it on cd?

[spice spire]

Just send it

[idle siren]

perfect then i was doing it right

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/epik-epik-duck-teh-epik-duck-send-it-gif-784874017325038558

[velvet ridge]

Man, finishing on 5 is so hard for me mentally

I just see 2 open combos, gotta hit it

Wonder how big of a dps loss it is

[stark scroll]

bahah

[keen spruce]

Not like a cataclysmic amount but noticeable iirc

You just need to remind yourself that mutilate isn’t 2 cp

It’s 2 + (2*[crit%])

[royal lantern]

looking at my crit rng when DN is up

yes it is 2cp

[thorn crater]

oh shit so we finish on 5?

[keen spruce]

[thorn crater]

i guess as we would without being given the 7th CP

[royal lantern]

5+ is our rule the entire expansion lol

and 7 when capstone is up

[stark scroll]

get that fat envenom

2.5 million crit

3.6 million crit

[thorn crater]

never saw never noticed im a dummie

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kobe-bryant-gif-15223189

[stark scroll]

idk I am not very geared

[keen spruce]

Last xpac too

[stark scroll]

biggest I have seen is 3.6

[thorn crater]

didnt play rly past the first month. and i dont think we had 7 CPs back then

could be wrong

[stark scroll]

Think I was under tempered pot

[keen spruce]

Oh ye it was post rework

[stark scroll]

with trinkets popped

[keen spruce]

In 10.2

[thorn crater]

also i got 2 regicides and i got the crit mastery dagger on hero track

crit vers goes in the bin now

[keen spruce]

Didn’t we just go over this

[thorn crater]

and puttin depths in a dagger for raid

[keen spruce]

Or was that someone else

[tawny bloom]

yo gang, currently running crit silken thing, should i go the weapon enchant instead for ST? not sure how to sim it properly

[thorn crater]

i got another!

[keen spruce]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[thorn crater]

but enchants are still 35k per pop

which is insane

[stark scroll]

really?

[thorn crater]

also i just noticed wtf is that name

[thorn crater]

twisting nether EU

[stark scroll]

I just need to get that enchant recipe

[thorn crater]

yep

[stark scroll]

I could be making bank

[thorn crater]

mats cost more

[stark scroll]

You have to run the hallowfall dungeon

yeah?

[thorn crater]

unless youre really deep

[stark scroll]

I have so many mats lol

[keen spruce]

[stark scroll]

I have been disenchanting like a fiend

[thorn crater]

that's gotta be bannable

[keen spruce]

Not my fault she letting them dogs bark in every cinematic

[thorn crater]

wish i could send my epics to my d/er

[stark scroll]

My favorite part is when anduin was caputred and xally put her toes on his face as punishment

[tawny bloom]

ty

[keen spruce]

“Punishment”

[magic grove]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[royal lantern]

my headcanon is that legion shadowpriest Mindblast was just projecting xalatath feetpics into the enemys mind

[stark scroll]

then i opened up on her toes with

why isnt there a garrote emoji

or rupture emoji

wtf?

echoing has one but not rupture????

[keen spruce]

[forest acorn]

why are they playing ds on brootwister? for singular focus?

[keen spruce]

Ye

It also just better

[boreal lichen]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[thorn crater]

6 daggers 11 chests, no trinkets NO necks, im 613 and im wearing upgraded blue neck 😛 😛

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[hidden light]

how do you turn off the games default cast bar? I'm trying to use whispyr's WA but the default one is all over it. Google is in a bit of tail chasing mode with results atm as the common answer doesnt seem to work anymore

[pastel onyx]

I know suf has this option, not sure what whispyr uses

Probably can do it with advance interface options addon

[keen spruce]

Edit mode should have an option

maybe

[hidden light]

not to turn it off, just resize and move

oh ffs

[keen spruce]

I vaguely remember a similar issue

[hidden light]

it wwas hidden under advanced XD

[keen spruce]

[hidden light]

edit mode > advanced >combat > cast bar

well nope

that just hides it from the edit

still leaves it in game, ffs blizzard

[keen spruce]

[timid marsh]

Just use elvui

[keen spruce]

I don’t ’member

[muted aspen]

Hey! Hello! :)
Should I track stacks of amplification poison and delay envenom to use darkest night proc with 10+ stacks of amp poison?

[rotund oak]

no

dont bother

[muted aspen]

Does envenom always consume 10 amp stacks or is it a chance it can consume stacks?

[keen spruce]

[rotund oak]

its 30% proc chance to consume them iirc

u cant deterministically proc it

thats why u dont bother

and the way the flow of the spec is odds the stacks will never reach max anyway

as in chain back to back amp stacks to go for a gigabuffed envenom

[hidden light]

elvui is a hot mess though and way too much overhead

[keen spruce]

Too much load on shitty pc too

[rotund oak]

it was buggy durign SL launch,stopped using it since then

[keen spruce]

Ye I dropped it at DF launch with new edit mode

Just too bloated now for how much other customization is basically just as good

[hidden light]

yup, I can do a fresh install of wow, download my 8 add-ons and being going in five minutes with no backups

found an addon that only exists to delete the default cast bar, so silly but works

[keen spruce]

WA, BW, LW, MDT, MRT and I think I’d be good to go

And the last 2 not even that important

[pure moth]

You saying if I get rid of elvui I won't dc anymore?

I dc to reconnect screen and come back in no problem. Also only a problem on rogue.. shaman is just fine

Someone said it's worse on high pop servers to

[rotund oak]

who is someone 😛

[pure moth]

Maybe an unreliable source? Lol

[rotund oak]

😉

[cunning urchin]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[rotund oak]

the way i read it,might be wrong is as if elvui is rendering ur fps to such a degree that u dc

[muted aspen]

Thank you! :)

[rotund oak]

u r welcome friend 🙂

[pure moth]

I never noticed the fps dip till this week but for a few months I've been dcing

When I freeze I just alt f4 and come back in. Looks like bnet reconnects as well

[rotund oak]

wait wait wait

u freeze?

[pure moth]

Yes

[rotund oak]

that might be bad news

[pure moth]

I guess you might know what it is?

[cloud basin]

Anyone solo Zekvir yet as assassination?

[rotund oak]

could be a pc problem for all we know

[timid marsh]

Yes

[raven bone]

What's the reason behind Hybrid build being played more over bleed build? Does it just simply have more dmg?

[willow cloud]

Does everyone else find pug takes just absolutely hunt you down with the necrotic wake cleave from big skele?

[rotund oak]

yeah

[pure moth]

Rip

[cloud basin]

What build did you use?

[raven bone]

In M+ obviously

[rotund oak]

hybrid but my brann is very big

lvl 38

[royal lantern]

its possible, but VERY rng

[cloud basin]

Mine is too

[royal lantern]

why not just a normal raid st build lol

like ????

[rotund oak]

healer with amorphic+the dmg curio

[cloud basin]

So you did the delve build that's up on wowhead?

[rotund oak]

doesnt rly matter

brann does everything

[spice spire]

Brann is a bitch

[rotund oak]

dwarf chadness

[rotund oak]

i pretyt much took the hybrid build,put my brann on healer role to gather the pots he tosses around and dodge stuff until the boss dies

thats all

get couple of pots

should be fine

[royal lantern]

what dmg curio

the arrow

[rotund oak]

think 1st time was with ragefilled

the 2nd with arrow ye

[strange python]

if you cant kingsbane in deathmark how big is it

[rotund oak]

big bad

dont do

u want them alligned

always

[cloud basin]

I'll have to try it then. Once I unlock the 2nd difficulty for him😂. I probably could solo a t10 but idk if I wanna try yet lol

[strange python]

[timid marsh]

My brann was 27 when doing zekvir solo and i was 607ish. Brann was damagedealer and i used no dmg cd on zekvir judt put aggro on brann when egg is about to spawn and kill it fast with anime charges and thistle tea and be sure to kick poison from zekvir u gotts change target when he uses it

[strange python]

do i hold kingsbane for 50s if i dont get to use it

[rotund oak]

brann even as healer does stupid dmg

healer is safer i think

but ye could happen as dmg dealer

[cloud basin]

No. You use them aligned first and you should get a 2nd cast of kingsbane before death mark is off CD. It should all align

[smoky furnace]

Brann does like 40k dps. Are you from the past?

[celest helm]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote is roughly 10-12% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon
• While Without a Trace can allow for better vanish timings, the difference in damage provided is at most replacing a non-stealth opener with a stealth opener (you aren't necessarily getting "added" casts, just "better" casts)
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[rotund oak]

i literally did 4 8s 3 hours ago,sitting stealth while brann solos them

just hit the boss a bit thats all

[spice spire]

[timid marsh]

But you gain energy from garrote???

[spice spire]

You can garrote outside of stealth

[celest helm]

had to use it for something lol

[arctic tusk]

if you take sanguine instead of vicious venoms does it change how you want to play/pool at all

[spice spire]

Yeah

You try to stay under 50% energy

[timid marsh]

It gets cd tho

[spice spire]

As much as possible

[spice spire]

That’s fine

You’re ruptureing for energy + scent stacks too

[strange python]

i know it should but cant

due to circumstances

[spice spire]

You don’t just stop and wait to garrote things

You’re tabbing

You’re stabbing

And then garrote when you can on a new target

[marble hemlock]

you should be grabbing

[spice spire]

Sass me one more time seli

[marble hemlock]

then what?

[spice spire]

And I’ll visit ur nursing home and give u the time of ur life (I’ll listen to you ramble, you old bitch)

[rotund oak]

man doesnt even wanna go out for a beer

im literally begging him

[marble hemlock]

buddy youre almost as old as me

[spice spire]

Pal nah

Ur minimum 63

Also German beer is too weak

[rotund oak]

i like weiss beer

barrel one

[spice spire]

Nah German beer is good the few I’ve had

It’s a whole ass yoke because American beer is piss water

[rotund oak]

yup yup

its jsut seli man

[marble hemlock]

hot take but german beer sucks cuz reinheitsgebot sucks

belgian or czech beer

[rotund oak]

ok when is the belgian octoberfest

we going there

😂

[runic hinge]

Probably in October

[grand cedar]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[rotund oak]

its actually 28-29 september

https://bestbeerfestivals.com/belgium-beer-festivals

[tired gull]

zekvir is surprisingly easy

[keen spruce]

https://youtu.be/MFij6hafI1w?si=aV4YC_Bp91wM8JGr

Have u not heard of our lord and savior endwyr

[runic hinge]

Probably not. She’s been missing and we haven’t seen boots in decades

[spice spire]

I didn’t realize the goat still played

@desert inlet where boots

[rotund oak]

yup he's around

[spice spire]

She

[keen spruce]

[rotund oak]

ah ye she

sry

[spice spire]

I watched her videos on silence and had no idea! I felt like a fool - was a fake fan

Still am apparently

[keen spruce]

Endwyr also duck enjoyer

And boots provider

S-tier rogue lady

[rotund oak]

bruh,shmeep stalks her

[keen spruce]

Tf

[spice spire]

Shmeeps stalks everyone

She ain’t special

[rotund oak]

😂

exposed

[spice spire]

He probably has my address

[keen spruce]

Sap just mad cuz he don’t have any qualities worth stalking

[spice spire]

Damn

[keen spruce]

That was mean I’m sry

[rotund oak]

idk man,im oldge 😦

prolly too boring to stalk

[spice spire]

It’s fine I’m old too king

[waxen oyster]

@rotund oak the arrow you have to aim?

[keen spruce]

[waxen oyster]

or the 50% crit one

[spice spire]

It doesn’t work man

I tried it

It doesn’t hit

[keen spruce]

I didn’t like it

[rotund oak]

bruh its 2024,im using GPS tech 😅

[keen spruce]

Smelled nice

[waxen oyster]

i meant which damage curio

[spice spire]

Well oranges smell nice

[keen spruce]

But oils from peel too sticky

[waxen oyster]

arrowhead idol?

[spice spire]

Ye

[keen spruce]

Grapes good shower food

[rotund oak]

yeah now arrowhead but its whatever all my curios are rank 4,all do dmg

and amorphic

the 2nd is pivotal

[keen spruce]

Tangerines a little easier to peel

[waxen oyster]

Yeah i wasn't sure if you meant the arrowhead

or final will

[keen spruce]

Also not bad

[waxen oyster]

final will is the one if you line him up it does like 2m

[sterile violet]

which one do i enchant both my daggers with depth or radian power ?

[rotund oak]

jsut stay alive,its way more chill if he is a healer,u dodge stuff the dude dies eventually

[waxen oyster]

My bran is 47

[rotund oak]

[spice spire]

What the fuck

Mine is like

38

[rotund oak]

mine is 40 just checked

[waxen oyster]

i do on alts

[rotund oak]

what the F

[waxen oyster]

since cba doing

ermm interacting

with the m+ community on alts

mentally ill mfs

[rotund oak]

bro im abusing the dwarf

😂

[waxen oyster]

https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckbrann/

[rotund oak]

u are working him more than the horse

😅

[gritty laurel]

have done 30+ t8 delves on my main, zero maps. go to fill out vault for my alt today, find 2 maps. why game

[rotund oak]

ive got like 10 maps,i dont even bother now

only keys from now on

[gritty laurel]

i'm a filthy casual heroic raider, hero track loot still looks good to me

[rotund oak]

imagine raiding

yeah rogue this tier

warmbencher

benchwarmer

whatever

[gritty laurel]

don't worry, i'm still outdpsing our fury warrior on ovinax

[subtle tundra]

that just means he is dogshit

[rotund oak]

😅

[gritty laurel]

yes

hoping it was just an off night or something

[orchid wind]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[tacit otter]

@balmy condor do you think there is any scenario where the bleed build would be superior to the hybrid? aside from low keys?

[balmy condor]

no and I'm wondering if I should just delete the build from guides entirely

[gilded oasis]

delete me

[keen spruce]

Do it king

[spice spire]

No wtf

[vast loom]

do it i accidently used it in a key and said wtf

[rotund oak]

[tacit otter]

it really does nothing better, actually crazy that moving away from st dmg doesnt even give you more aoe. what a useless build

[waxen oyster]

It does give you more aoe

[gilded oasis]

I been organizing my music and then realized I copied duplicates and TRIPLETS (?) into the folders so now I gotta go through omega folders and delete them

[waxen oyster]

on content that doesnt matter

[balmy condor]

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[glacial crypt]

surely tomorrow

surely

🙏

[rotund oak]

[keen spruce]

I think u guys made a mistake

Boss ends at 0% not 1%

That should fix it

[waxen oyster]

are we ethical gamers

[keen spruce]

[waxen oyster]

or ct padders

for brood

[keen spruce]

CT funnelers

[shy pecan]

I think keeping it for just a low keys option is still fine. Just things get evaporated still if you’re using hybrid to get any value

[glacial crypt]

😭

[rotund oak]

padders ofc,and tricks the mage to just die

[waxen oyster]

I liked looking at a full boss dam rogue on brood

in public logs

and he still gets mogged by the frost mage

on st

[balmy condor]

CT is the move for sure

[spice spire]

Bro

[glacial crypt]

That's the build we should be playing now imo

we're missing boss damage

the CT post-nerf is just pad

[earnest remnant]

[waxen oyster]

wait what are you dropping for CT even

[glacial crypt]

imp gar

[balmy condor]

there is no shot that's worth

[rotund oak]

[glacial crypt]

for boss damage I fully believe so

[dull cloak]

in m+?

[gilded oasis]

[glacial crypt]

No, mythic ovinax

[balmy condor]

ovi'nax

but CT is actually funneling back so much damage

[glacial crypt]

Cook with me whispyr

[balmy condor]

I don't need to

[glacial crypt]

show me where we can improve i beg

[balmy condor]

CT is the move

[waxen oyster]

That's what the guy in ID was running

on their kill

[dull cloak]

does CT damage snap based on targets

[balmy condor]

yep

[novel star]

you can only take ct off if ur raid obliterates the adds lol

[glacial crypt]

key jusy started i'll be back

[waxen oyster]

though

is improved poisons actually worth

[balmy condor]

I think on mythic even that isn't good enough

[balmy condor]

yeh

[earnest remnant]

ct is too big for spiders

[novel star]

for like every player not in the race probably true

[waxen oyster]

Never really saw it as a massive node

[balmy condor]

better than imp gar for most

[novel star]

but that shit was not that valuable with like 4 rwf level frost dks and fury wars and shit

[rotund oak]

sin better than sub for ovinax?

[vivid lodge]

is the sim working with trinkets? bloodmallet saying something else. then raidbots. Blood: Skardyn's Grace + Mad Queen's Mandate / raidobts: Mad Queen's Mandate + Ara-Kara Sacbrood

[novel star]

every normal guild tho yeh u prob just take it every time

[balmy condor]

yes sims are working fine

you're just comparing template character to your character

which is....

not good

[uncut tiger]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[earnest remnant]

way better

sub sucks ass on ovinax

[waxen oyster]

I feel like

[rotund oak]

[waxen oyster]

sub is the worst spec on ovinaxx

no?

[balmy condor]

probably yeah

[rotund oak]

idk i thought trickster but..

raccoon man has spoken

[waxen oyster]

pirate is likely ok if your raid comp is weak on aoe

in general

[spice spire]

I’m so sorry wtf

[balmy condor]

singular focus probably beats trickster on its own

[novel star]

but sin is the best aoe spec

[earnest remnant]

caustic does like 30% more dam than nimble does

[novel star]

ur not gonna being more value than caustic with any other flurry

[rotund oak]

[earnest remnant]

and nimble only does stuff

[novel star]

and u can take ct too

[earnest remnant]

when you are in cds

and the adds dont really line up well for sub

[novel star]

fuk sub

[earnest remnant]

fuck you

[waxen oyster]

though I think the fact even guy is playing sin on brood

[earnest remnant]

how bout that

[waxen oyster]

says a bunch

[novel star]

sub doesn’t even line up with itself

[rotund oak]

this should never happen tbh,they should at least be comparable.Sub rly needs help

[novel star]

stupid ass spec