assassination

[dire sphinx]

yeah... mutilate was just starting to be a thing when i quite

[runic hinge]

Shrouded doesn’t work without imp garrote just fyi

[dire sphinx]

quit*

[deep sorrel]

Majority of stuff is kinda mixed up

[fallow canopy]

read up, practice and come back stronger king

[keen spruce]

still?

[dire sphinx]

alright, i'll go back to the guid and practice dummy

ty guys, given me a lot to think about

[deep sorrel]

fit an envenom before your death mark, you never seem to do that

[runic hinge]

Pretty sure it’s all tied together still yeah

[fallow canopy]

bliz is prob thinking there's no one that would use it without imp garr

so prob not high on the prio list

[dawn heath]

is the necrotic wake ability supposed to oneshot you on a 9? first boss the spit he does

i was so suprised to see myself get oneshot by a a non tyrannical boss

5.5mil?

[deep sorrel]

Feint

[dawn heath]

xD

its a 9

[deep sorrel]

Yea u gotta defensive that

Feint stops the 1 shot, I don’t play cheat in keys so feint is even better

[dawn heath]

ye figured

but never thought a +9 non tyrannical boss would 100-0 u with a ability like that

[deep sorrel]

U can cloak if ur low

[dawn heath]

i cloaked the first one

got it again

but i could just feint

[deep sorrel]

Ah yea just feint, honestly higher keys bro it’s like every other global is feint

cringe tbh

[prisma coral]

sacbrood or ritual knife for keys? they are simming pretty close for me maybe I am over thinking it

[oblique hollow]

ok so whats the best way to ensure darkest night is up on transitions where bosses leave or do we just have to keep an eye for the timer long beforehand and slow down?

[jolly heath]

u can eva or cloak it as well

[dawn heath]

i am really confused on how to use vanish

on bosses

(in m+ build)

is it just fully useless?

do u vanish garrote?

assuming your mark is already up

[proud salmon]

anyone on broodtwister

i just got - do i want to hold cds on pull?

[deep sorrel]

I mean ye u can but if boss will die soon then just hold for next pack I think

If vanish on cd for opener but boss lives til next dm and is like 30% I wouldn’t vanish personally

[pallid whale]

dumb question but when im not talented into sanguine blades i can just let it rip with my envenoms right?

and just only pool energy a couple seconds before kingsbane

[dawn heath]

anyone good with configing plater, i wanna make my plater profile change color on the target i have caustic on

[runic hinge]

Basically you don’t care about pooling up but you do wanna maintain envenom

[cunning needle]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[runic hinge]

So if you find yourself starved or whatever you can pool a bit to get your chain going

[cunning needle]

steal it from one of the packages

[faint timber]

are there known issues with re-stealthing in arenas and random stealth breaks?

[cunning needle]

!stealth

!stealthbreak

[prisma monolith]

Stealth can break from:

• Evoker legendary buff expiring and bouncing back to the Evoker.
• Ominous Chromatic Essence trinket on buff gain
• Voice of the Silent Star when wearing it yourself
• Misterweaver soothing mist when talented into Unison
• Blossom of Amirdrassil (trinket) initial hot dropping/spreading
• Vicious brand (Signet trinket self damage)

[cunning needle]

this entire expansion

is just buggy with stealth

especially in pvp

[faint timber]

how about for this season?

[scarlet spade]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[dawn heath]

nice

[pallid whale]

wait what u mean by chain lol

like all my dots?

[quartz locust]

how many envenoms you can string together without letting the debuff expire

[pallid whale]

ah okay

[dawn heath]

do u guys have changing colors on nameplates for ruptures?

like it changes if a target has rupture dot or smth

can be hard to see when its a fuck ton of mobs

[quartz locust]

i just use plater and blacklist every debuff except rupture and garrote and CT

if you make it so the nameplates don't stack over each other it's pretty easy to see what doesnt have what

[dawn heath]

think i need to make my icons bigger

[scarlet spade]

does anyone have the input needed for simming races?

[runic hinge]

Bloodmallet probably has race sims

But it’s also useless

Just play what you think looks good

Look good play good ya feel?

[waxen oyster]

highest sim race is technically mechagnome

across the board

[scarlet spade]

yeah currently mechagnome

but thinking of swapping to DI or dwarf

[fleet pagoda]

robot bias for robots

[waxen oyster]

dwarf better

[scarlet spade]

the robot hands and feet are cramping my style

[runic hinge]

More like clamping

[waxen oyster]

DI having your dps racial tied to your defensive dispel is a bit sus

You do move 4% faster in instances

as a weird flavor buff

[scarlet spade]

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[spice spire]

Need that

[runic hinge]

[waxen oyster]

last time i heard clamping in wow was in regard to that kyrian trait

[runic hinge]

Dawg?

[still stone]

was consistently parsing 90+ on every fight and then i did silken court and my dmg fell off the face of the earth and im not sure why

[waxen oyster]

you let mark fall off

[scarlet spade]

yeah I been meaning to ask

like before we would vanish mutilate iirc now days do we just vanish ambush.

like whats the optimal play

[waxen oyster]

if you're not playing imp garrote talents

[spice spire]

Depends on the build

[waxen oyster]

you never vanish mutilated

in recent seasons

[spice spire]

Yeah dog ?

[scarlet spade]

yeah this was like way back in nathria but I could be remembering wrong been playing sub since SOD

[waxen oyster]

I mean yeah sin didnt really come back

until s3 df

[spice spire]

No you remembered right

[waxen oyster]

vanish mut was pretty common when we had master assassin crit

[scarlet spade]

yeah thats right

[waxen oyster]

game is weird with how inconsequential mutilate is now

without imp garrote

ermm vanish

[tall pelican]

is it worth creating daggers?

[waxen oyster]

dagger yes

if you dont have the mythic bloodbound one

or one from m+ vault

[tall pelican]

Siphing Stilleto?

[waxen oyster]

💀

why do people bring that thing up

its ass

[tall pelican]

Just need to repalce my 606

have a 619 upgrade ecnhant

[frank condor]

1 Everforged stabber will be solid for all 3 specs. It’s a good investment

[south prawn]

I could’ve sworn i had cloak on and I still got one shot

Evasion worked tho

[cunning needle]

yeah because you can randomly dodge it

with natty dodge

[south prawn]

Can someone confirm if cloak works or not on first boss necrotic?

[iron geode]

it should for the spit

and the puddles

[honest pelican]

are the plater/WA profiles linked on bot, full profiles or just for bleeds/dots and things like caustic?

im looking for one with just color for bleeds/dots for example

there was a simple profile for it back in DF for rupture

[iron geode]

i have a plater that only shows my buffs, like rupture, garrote n caustic

[honest pelican]

i run jundies m+ one atm, so i don't want to overwrite that. just add color traacking for bleeds mostly

[keen spruce]

you can probably grab the bleed tracking settings from the ones on the bot

[iron geode]

ah i did something like that for shadowlands, you can create a skill missing or added with a certain color

[keen spruce]

and plop them into Jundies

idk how easy that is compared to squishing WAs together

[honest pelican]

will give it a try, i looked at all of them and most had more settings to it

[keen spruce]

yeah they're mostly full packs

would probably require some surgery

[honest pelican]

wil lgive it a shot, otherwise ill just assume the smart spreading stuff hit everything

not like im raiding, so most stuff is dead by time they wear off

[keen spruce]

does Jundie's not do any bleed tracking?

i've never found a plater profile taht didn't at least have some form of it

[honest pelican]

i can see all the dots and such

but it doesnt change color based on them or caustic etc

[keen spruce]

oh icic

[honest pelican]

so it means looking at icons

[keen spruce]

I never worried about color swapping

i was an icon gazer

[honest pelican]

yeah i dont think i need to be, i just wasnt sure if it was still needed to do positioning to help it spreador not

like it was back in DF

[keen spruce]

should function roughly the same

but it smart targets

[honest pelican]

back then it had really bad mechanics, it would spread to targets nearby based on your distance to them

instead of choosing one mob over that had no dot

[keen spruce]

yeah it prio's mobs without dots

works like replicating shadows for sub

[honest pelican]

gotcha, so probably no reason then for me to need it

i saw the ones with caustic spatter and such and just assumed

[keen spruce]

it's like a venndiagram target area

one circle around target one around player

and prio's targets w/o bleeds

or more specificallly w/o the bleed you're casting currently

[honest pelican]

makes sense

[keen spruce]

but u still need to change targets to maximize spreading

cuz if you like rupture a target with rupture

it will still refresh taht one on your target

then spread 2 more

instead of getting 3 fresh ones by targetting a new mob

[honest pelican]

yeah

[slate crown]

But also like

[keen spruce]

but that isn't different

[honest pelican]

your only gonna spread rupture to aoe when you have that initial buff though from stealth correct?

[slate crown]

If mechanics make it tough or w/e

[honest pelican]

or on vanish

[slate crown]

slapping on the same target is fine

not ideal but it works

[honest pelican]

i havent spent too much time reading the abilities honestly

swapped back to sin only recently

[keen spruce]

yeah I spent all of s3 spreading off the saem target

it doesn't rly matter

[slate crown]

You should be refreshing rupture around the pack even after IC fades (the buff that lets you cleave them) if ruptures are fading.

[keen spruce]

you always wanna spread ruptures for energy

whether that's manually or with IC

[honest pelican]

wait i just saw they nerfed DF drums

is that for real

[iron geode]

or if u wanna be lazy make a mouseover for rupture n garrote haha thats what i do

[keen spruce]

as long as mobs will live long enough

mouseover actually the not-lazy, more correct way actually lol

[honest pelican]

ughhh, drum nerf is so shit. TWW drums are soo expensive

someone just had to make a reddit post

[slate crown]

Ngl I don't think that's very lazy

I prefer it

But sometimes I feel more stressed trying to do mouseover

rather than tab

[iron geode]

oh i do too lol, keeps me focused on prio target

[slate crown]

I currently use it but there's often a stress of things moving from under my cursor unexpectedly that tab doesn't suffer as much from, tab is much clearer and reliable

So I wouldn't classify it as lazy 😛

SHMEEPS STOP SAYING WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY BEFORE I READ WHAT YOU TYPED

[honest pelican]

still had ~300 drums leftover

[slate crown]

rip

[honest pelican]

so no more popping them in solo delves i guess

[slate crown]

2.6k for tww drums

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/quicker-than-that-you-gotta-be-faster-faster-speedier-money-gif-15763008

[rotund oak]

ive got my finest r3 bismuth pushed in 5min,be hasty!!

(its about 1750)

[neon thunder]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[slate crown]

I only go through about 300 rank3 in an hour

honestly rank 1 materials are better for me

[native swan]

Do you guys know if we should swap around our talents for Lower keys

like +7's

[rotund oak]

i keep my r1s to craft r3 bismuth bolts(each r3 bolt costs like 7 concentration so its not entirely free,im gated 😦 )

not so many left though,i mine more r3 and r2 than r1 now

[slate crown]

yeah I go through ~10k ironclaw/aqirite for every 3.5k bismuth, all rank1, then ~300 rank3 bismuth thrown in

in an hour

[rotund oak]

yeah something like that

[slate crown]

and like 100 null stones

[willow cloud]

It was almost impossible to put anything but +1 what I had already timed, but finally have a 10 timed and slowly grinding out 2500. M+ feel really unrewarding to anyone else? Delves seem to have trivialized m+ dungeon drops.

[rotund oak]

thats half a million gold right there

[slate crown]

yeah

[rotund oak]

im sending daily all my stones

keeping only inscription stuff

need like 3-4 a day,rest are sold

[waxen oyster]

kind of pointless to do lower keys

due to delves imo

[ancient tangle]

does anyone know if the nature dmg of scroll of momentum splash with caustic spatter ?

[waxen oyster]

no only class

[ancient tangle]

ok thx a lot 🙂

[waxen oyster]

plague is nature

[ancient tangle]

yes deathstalkers dmg splash then ?

[pulsar elk]

2nd boss in NW, I wouldn't worry about spreading rupture for the adds right? just CT, Fan, and caustic? same for first boss in siege?

[waxen oyster]

singular focus

hunt them down

[novel gulch]

whats better sanguine blades or vicious venoms?

[waxen oyster]

flensing knives ig

[ancient tangle]

yes ok thx 🙂

[waxen oyster]

situational

[rotund oak]

eh irrelevant question but what was the addons name that made the interactable items in the ground more visible

adding contrast

or its an interface thing

[lethal arrow]

its a graphics option

[rotund oak]

im getting old

oh thx

emptied my cache and forgot

[lethal arrow]

think its outline mode

[rotund oak]

found it thx

[waxen oyster]

still funny how blizz’s solution to sin having meh aoe

was giving it bladeflurry

and it worked

[ancient tangle]

but u still can have Flensing Knives when u take etheral cloak ?

[south prawn]

I coulda sworn i died from the spit with cloak on… but everyone is saying cloak works wtf

[waxen oyster]

Yeah spaghetti

you can evasion the frontal

[ancient tangle]

my god ... they got to do it on purpose at that point.. for some easter eggs lol

[ancient tangle]

what frontal ?

[waxen oyster]

Only the first second of cloak is true magic immunity.

His breath

[south prawn]

Oh shit

Makes sense

Probably fired it early

[clever perch]

#wow-general message anyone here knows if it's possible? this shit is giving me headache

[ancient tangle]

what, they changed that no ? wasn't it full duration before ?

[waxen oyster]

Always been that way

Cloak is full immunity the first second

[silent stratus]

what's the APL says about minimum ttd necessary to apply rupture vs just CT? (I'm thinking about a big groups of adds which die relatively fast)

[south prawn]

Fk it bro just use separate keybinds, i have interrupt on F and interrupt focus target on ctrl F

[clever perch]

yea wanna save the keybind

[ancient tangle]

ok thx, but what is the next seconds then ?

[clever perch]

i believe it is possible to set a modifier to be usable only on focus in the same macro

[south prawn]

I mean if ur using a modifier its the same thing no?

How are u saving a keybind

[clever perch]

well

im saving an action bar slot*

actually i think i got it

#showtooltip
/cast [@focus, harm, mod:ctrl][@mouseover, harm][] Kick

[waxen oyster]

spell resist

[ancient tangle]

ok but what is the difference between spell resist and spell immunity ?

[glass hemlock]

Like water resistant and waterproof 😂

[viral spire]

They still didn’t disable dreambound augie

I guess best investment?

[south prawn]

Idk how yall play with mouseover macros for melees it feels so bad

[viral spire]

You need to be born melee

Thats the way

[glass hemlock]

What ilvl or track gear before enchants etc?

And recommended to wait and craft a certain ilvl

[viral spire]

Depends

[glass hemlock]

Is it recommended *

[viral spire]

Still depends on your finances and your goals

If money is not an issue just slam enchants

[glass hemlock]

M+, about 70k gold

Haven’t been able to play much at all this expac but works slowing down to normal so I’m getting some more time!

Gotta catch up to my buddies doing 6s and 7s

[wise plume]

some enchant prices r just wild

[glass hemlock]

Aw yeah fair ill just have a sus at the AH

[wise plume]

im not poor, but damn you want 40k for a ring enchant?

[glass hemlock]

Yeah no thanks

[hollow talon]

Does hitbox feel bad playing as tauren to anyone else

[royal lantern]

"hey, i wanna craft the 315 secondary stat ring enchant"

blizzard: 75 stormdust, 1 tinderbox, 5shards and 2crystals :3

[wise plume]

like y blizzard

[waxen oyster]

its only 315

[royal lantern]

a single green item disenchant s 1-3 dust btw :3

[waxen oyster]

unless cursed

[royal lantern]

like, the fact that EVERY SINGLE ENCHANT needs a tinderbox

when they are 7-10k a piece

cus they are rare drops from treasures/wax in hallowfall only

like ??????????

[waxen oyster]

its like titan orbs

except titan orbs were only for one enchant

[royal lantern]

yes

[runic basin]

so you guys will play 2x Lining or 2x Lens in M+ ?

[hot fulcrum]

I don't rly remember start of DF expans, but is there was the same prices for ench etc?
Cos I remember only that I had everything pretty early, so prob it was not an issue in DF start

[hot fulcrum]

2x dawnthread

[royal lantern]

lenses lol

[waxen oyster]

embellishes barely matter

[hot fulcrum]

Does enyone remember? Or it's really the issue with WW start?

[runic basin]

lens is trap in m+ or? because of the fight duration

[waxen oyster]

lens is an st damage proc

[zealous wolf]

is there a reasont to not craft a 619 ring with spark? all my other gear is solid, just cant get a ring

[hot fulcrum]

if you don't need spark and have free runed enchant from quest - why not

[zealous wolf]

i mean my dawnthread belt is 606 so i could recraft that

but i think the ring is a bigger upgrade

[waxen oyster]

Sparks literally exist to fill in gaps in your own gear.

[waxen oyster]

Good thing there's literally a raidbots feature

that tells you objectively

[zealous wolf]

true

[spice spire]

Call me sparks the way I be filling gaps

[cerulean walrus]

Call me the gap

[spice spire]

Okay the gap

[cerulean walrus]

Oksy

[runic hinge]

ok

[cerulean walrus]

Okay.... good

[runic hinge]

I can't tell if siege of boralus really sucks, or if i suck at it cause ive only done it twice

[cerulean walrus]

New siege is chill

[spice spire]

Yes

New siege isn’t bad

[runic hinge]

yeah it seemed less bad than when i did it on a zero last week

or two weeks ago

whatever

[spice spire]

Few Oopsies

[runic hinge]

I only procced cheat once, and then died when i d/c thanks to elon

Mf sabotaging me

[cedar hare]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[royal lantern]

psyops

[runic hinge]

right as we're running to island 2 on last boss

since I'm no longer vanishing in fights cause of the bug and not playing imp garrote does that mean recuperator is working?

[ember orchid]

Can a Rogue expert answer this.

On ST which is Stronger of the 2 Hero Talents.

Im just asking because Deathstalker blows to play in assa spec.

[runic hinge]

!hero

[prisma monolith]

Both Hero Talents are viable in all content, and are within 2-5% of each other.
Fatebound: Instant damage, is easy to play, can remove some buttons from the rotation, little to no added gameplay
Deathstalker: Introduces gameplay, Singular focus adds big priority damage, suffers from bugs and marks being hard to juggle in easy content like heroic/m0 dungeons

[zealous wolf]

is it worth it to mix gem colors for the blasphemite buff?

i cant seem to sim it

or may be doing it wrong

[cedar hare]

I sim 4k more dmg as Fate in ST

[chilly mist]

Haven't personally tried to sim it but according to top sims, yes we do mix a bit

[clever sluice]

if you used crit mas then mas crit would that count as two different combos or how does that work?

[chilly mist]

name of the gem itself is the color I think, emerald takes up the "emerald" slot

so stamina-crit, stamina-hast would be considered the same color

99% sure

[clever sluice]

kk ty

[honest pelican]

am i a cheapskate for using algari mana oil over whetstones atm? cause like w0w the price

20 hours for 3k gold vs 15k+ for 10 hours

[clever sluice]

i still use buzzing runes sometimes xd

[distant plinth]

Depends what content you do, i dont even bother to use anything on a +9

[honest pelican]

m+ and only 4-5s atm on my rogue

[distant plinth]

Næææ, i wouldnt use it. Unless you want the extra damage of course. But run the mega cheap ones

[honest pelican]

dude in a siege 3 just now was poking at me for it and im like >.>

also the same key

[cedar hare]

!bugs

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Bug tracker: https://github.com/SimCMinMax/WoW-BugTracker/labels/Rogue

[clever sluice]

if it's a 3 i wouldn't feel bad about using no consumes at all lol

[jaunty dew]

Any way for me to sim embellishments? currently running 2x dawnthread but I wanna check the diff for ascencion

[ripe carbon]

yes u add it and it sims

[cunning cloak]

Gear compare I believe

[ripe carbon]

add in dagger > add embelish in options on that dagger... do same with writhing

thats in top gear tho

[hot fulcrum]

Whispyr said that stone is 1% each and manaoil is 0,8% each. I'm using oil atm for my rogue

[ripe carbon]

u have to add in 'griftahs embelishj remover stuff' to slots as well

gear compare prob easier like cainito said but i dunno i just do my way

[nimble tartan]

dang guys i got a mythic dagger but i dont have ascenscion i think ima do the 2nd best craft....

i used my crafts on otha specs

[cyan steppe]

Just switched to asa from outlaw.
busting my ass to do 900k dps overall in a M+5 dung with outlaw,
Swaped to asa and had to use 20 ilvl lower daggers as I didn't have weapons for asa upgraded and stats/enchs for outlaw on the other gear, and I did 850k with being fairly new to rotation. WTF is this??
It's much slower pace and chill to be asa and easier to pump dmg esp aoe. I feel bitter a bit

[honest pelican]

good to know, ty. not a huge diff then

[pliant remnant]

Man discovers spec swap window

[lean nacelle]

Guys a noob question regarding stats for m+ and raid regarding stats. I know mastery crit are bis for assa but is there a min cap for haste as well? Or should i just sim everything. Thanks

[pliant remnant]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[viscid kelp]

Its because you don’t have to react to every proc it takes alot of time and practice to build muscle memory to react to proccs instantly

On sin you play based on cooldowns only thats why its easier to pickup

If you see something is up you press it without thinking too much about waiting for bte vanish and adrenaline rush while spamming ambush and pistol shot

[nimble tartan]

im surprised how not terrible vers is for sin

at least for my lilbaby sims rn

[kind forge]

sin doesnt have bad stats really

makes gearing pretty ez

[nimble tartan]

ya its p nice

im sure its much more apparent in m+ prob for best stats

but at least for raid st its chill

[kind forge]

but then again eg vers is nice for m+ in general

since sin is also the squishiest spec

[clever sluice]

with elusiveness and bait and switch it's not so bad

i started playing that feint dr over cheat and i at least think its super strong

[kind forge]

ofc ye

just in general

[clever sluice]

ye not the same as having like 25% dr on outlaw lol

[nimble tartan]

even the enchants on weapon arent too different!

depths radiant we u p

[celest crescent]

what was the command for sims spreadsheet guys?

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[undone flame]

Dose anyone have tips on how i shoude play silken Cort
I did beat it but parse was relly bad
And I were doring the webing

Im just kinda bad at more the 1 boss fights relly

[clever perch]

Uhm

[clever perch]

Why does spreadsheet say that fatebound > deathstalker in st

[runic hinge]

Depends on gear

[clever perch]

https://es.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/38#boss=2898&class=Rogue&spec=Assassination like no one is even playing Fatebound tho

[runic hinge]

!hero

[prisma monolith]

Both Hero Talents are viable in all content, and are within 2-5% of each other.
Fatebound: Instant damage, is easy to play, can remove some buttons from the rotation, little to no added gameplay
Deathstalker: Introduces gameplay, Singular focus adds big priority damage, suffers from bugs and marks being hard to juggle in easy content like heroic/m0 dungeons

[clever perch]

so if fatebound adds instant dmg, its easier and has more dps

why are we all playing with deathstalker?

I only see cons on deathstalker

[nimble tartan]

priority damage

[clever perch]

yea i don't think we need that on this raid tbh

[spring prawn]

does this look right for dmg breakdown in high m+s?

[runic hinge]

Looks good

[spring prawn]

thanks

[runic hinge]

Makes your defensives better. Adds a bit of prio/funnel and since the er changes really isn’t that bad to play

[empty viper]

I tried keeping bleeds Up on both if poss and Safe some dmg for after the Charge and so on

[runic hinge]

Imma try fatebound in raid this week tho

[echo tartan]

does rogue have a spec that has consistent damage windows

unlike dk where u hit 2mil then drop off to 400k

[runic hinge]

Outlaw

Is like

A flat line

[echo tartan]

is outlaw good atm?

[nimble tartan]

bait and switch is very deceptively strong

well its not deceptive its just

like actually just really friggin good

[empty viper]

If the Guy in Front of the PC hast the hands for it

[echo tartan]

there we go

[nimble tartan]

super good!

[echo tartan]

thanks

thats all i asked

[nimble tartan]

i been playin it on m prog so far

[runic hinge]

Outlaw is good but challenging

[echo tartan]

and the people in the official wow discord coudlnt asnwer this

[spring prawn]

start on big guy for deathstalker on first charge... caustic spatter big too... swap target after 2nd charge to lady via ambush in intermission, should lign up perfectly with 2nd deathmark.. save ur cds to giga burst them during their inc dmg taken windows

[echo tartan]

now u guys just gotta help me make a pretty earthen >.<

[spring prawn]

maybe im also jsut talking out my arse but it worked for me

[echo tartan]

is this a w earthen rogue

[normal mist]

I mean, depends on your skill level and where your objectives are

[pliant remnant]

if being ugly is a W

yes

[echo tartan]

isnt the whole class theme of rogue being an ugly rat

[normal mist]

Not really

[echo tartan]

😔

[pliant remnant]

We're so beautiful that we hide from the others to not make them jealous

that's the class theme

[echo tartan]

like my shaman then

[spring prawn]

u need some better mogs dude xD

[echo tartan]

why are u hating

[pliant remnant]

Pandalov

[clever perch]

no xd, i mean for raid atleast

[echo tartan]

am i not pretty

[runic hinge]

In b4 royal mog of the month link

[spring prawn]

ur the cutest

[echo tartan]

YIPEEEE

my frost dk is sexy

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

[runic hinge]

What is your goal with playing rogue

[echo tartan]

edging the enemys while top dsing

[runic hinge]

Can I solo sun kings fury

[echo tartan]

damn ur ugly 😭

[normal mist]

Yes

[runic hinge]

Why not red eyes

[runic hinge]

How

[normal mist]

R3 tww bandages

Get 4 healing orbs before using it

Don't get interrupted

[runic hinge]

Okay I’ll try that tomorrow

[normal mist]

Damn

[echo tartan]

no but like

i want a more linear dps curve

on dk its WOHOOO BIG DICK for 30 seconds and then uh oh bye bye dmg for like a minute

and that doesnt feel very nice

[runic hinge]

Sub and sin are like that

[normal mist]

Fury warrior

[echo tartan]

thats why im going for outlaw

[runic hinge]

Outlaw is constant

[echo tartan]

yeah tahts what i like

im a ffx14 plyer

player

[runic hinge]

This is the assassination channel just fyi

[echo tartan]

or used to be

i knw

[runic hinge]

Okay

[echo tartan]

i havent made a rogue yet i just came here to ask

[royal lantern]

????

ff14 is ALL burst windows lol

[echo tartan]

and didnt know wich one to choose

[runic hinge]

This is the second best channel on the server

[echo tartan]

why second best

[normal mist]

Usually people use #wow-general for those questions

[royal lantern]

like, consitent dmg doesnt exist in ff14 lol

[runic hinge]

There’s a better one

[echo tartan]

yeah but the damage fall off isnt as crazy

[clever perch]

If we were playing with fatebound, do we macro cold blood into anything?

[echo tartan]

and it feels better

[runic hinge]

You can do envenom

[echo tartan]

like when u do the build up u still feel impact and good damage

[hushed maple]

Hey guys, I have some issues with my Mouseover macros for Rupture and Garrote. They randomly do not function anymore. Basically they are supposed to go on my target unless I have a mouseover harm target. so I wrote it as that:
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover, harm][harm] Spell

Why no work?

[echo tartan]

on dk im pressing 1 single button while waiting

maybe a second or 3rd

if i get a proc

[hushed maple]

[echo tartan]

but its frost strike

frost strike

more frost strike

[royal lantern]

ita frost dk, frost dk is simple by Design

if you want more involved gamepaly, go unholy

[echo tartan]

but u also dotn deal good linear dmg

thats why im going otulaw rogue

[clever perch]

i guess you macro both kingsbane and envenom?

[runic hinge]

They want flat damage profile

[echo tartan]

yes

[royal lantern]

im just confused by the ff14 comparison when ff14 is "2min cds, the game"

[echo tartan]

its hard to explain

[royal lantern]

like, you can afk bettwen the dmg windows and it doesnt make a difference lol

[echo tartan]

not on blackmage lol

[royal lantern]

ye but nobody plays blackmage and square doesnt want you to play it aswell

[echo tartan]

buddy

[hushed maple]

Ah fixed my Macro:
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead] Garrote; [harm,nodead] Garrote

[echo tartan]

ay ay ay

buddy

[runic hinge]

Fatebound makes it so cold blood only works on envenom

[echo tartan]

dont come at like that

[normal mist]

Warrior goes monkey my happy

[runic hinge]

Yeah furry warrior was pretty fun and consistent damage

[hushed maple]

So guys when it comes to playing Sin in Raid...I..I feel like I am standing there pooling for Energy for ages. Am I playing big poopoo or is that just the vibe of Sin in ST?

[normal mist]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[runic hinge]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

• For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[hushed maple]

playing for Envenom uptime means we spent Envenom even with like 4CP?

[normal mist]

No

[royal lantern]

OwO

[runic hinge]

UwU

[normal mist]

We always finish 5+ and we want to have the buff up as much as possible

Instead of, outside of CDs, spamming envenom twice, you wait for the buff to be at like 1 second to slam the second envenom

[hushed maple]

Man its weird to play Rogue again after all those years...got quite complicated gotta admit.

[normal mist]

Unfortunately we know

But you get used to it pretty fast

[runic hinge]

Yeah that’s why I like it tbh

Sometimes it’s fun to go play ret or fury but I get bored quick

[hushed maple]

I main casters

I play Rogue as an alt for Heroic Splits and some M+

[runic hinge]

Seal fate makes assa more interesting

[lament stump]

i cant play casters i love to ad strafe perma

[hushed maple]

I think the worst thing in Rogue currently must be Deathstalker. I dont think its fun to force 7 CP finishers

[noble flume]

https://gyazo.com/3c41663b289e5b90badbb58b68dba598

[kindred dune]

any1 playing 2 on-use trinkets (skardyns and mad queen trinket) for m+ or raid? is it any good ?

[noble flume]

what its worth it

[clever sluice]

idk that shit hits fat it's p nice

[noble flume]

going for 4 piece of set or take head or chest?

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-death-penalty-gif-25754511

[lament stump]

i just cant do ER

my brain dumb

FB for lyfe

[runic hinge]

You can sim that

[hushed maple]

Yeah dmg numbers are great. I am not used to pooling so...maybe thats the issue

[noble flume]

its like vault? i tried

but that pieces dont show on top gear

[clever sluice]

it is awkward at first and losing your mark on multi target boss fights feels like ass for sure

[noble flume]

i need to do it on raid maybe?

[clever sluice]

but i think the dopamine form the 2mil + finishers is worth

[lament stump]

i want to learn sub but i barely see anyone uploading keys where they do sub

i like rogue

so i just want another rogue spec with assass

[hushed maple]

sub worst design out of all 3 specs change my mind

[chilly mist]

What bosses have you cleared this week on which difficulty, and what are you capable of clearing

[runic hinge]

Just switch between the two hero trees

[hushed maple]

AoE feels okay but ST is just pure horsepoo

[chilly mist]

like what would you expect to be able to kill this week

[noble flume]

i killed last heroic

seems like next week gonna try mythic

but my gear is so low

[lament stump]

i like the idea of sub sooo much and i like that top dps tryhard fantasy its very appealing to me but assass way easier to top dps in keys i think

[noble flume]

i dont have luck on raid with the items

[wicked lynx]

@balmy condor shut up and go bedge

no more GB for the day

[balmy condor]

no

yap time

[wicked lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-reaction-information-my-reaction-to-that-information-my-honest-reaction-to-that-information-gif-613275461876515673

[soft shale]

yea dont gloomblade

it is not worth iot

[balmy condor]

just for that, I'm queueing another

[wicked lynx]

just for that, im leaving the discord again

[soft shale]

ANOTHER BATUL

[lament stump]

the psyop worked

[wicked lynx]

see you back next time i play rogue again

[lament stump]

good job soldier

[chilly mist]

Thinking of raid drops alone, head piece is the last item available in mythic from Silken. So through that perspective alone, head would be a good investment

[soft shale]

we will never forget you

[wicked lynx]

or see you in key again

whichever comes first

[balmy condor]

cringe!

[chilly mist]

At the same time I believe head is our preferred offpiece? With very minimal margins

[wicked lynx]

its not my fault you dont record your responses anymore

[noble flume]

i simmed on raid thing 4/6 hero

[wicked lynx]

[noble flume]

and the gloves +2.1%

head and chest 0.9

[royal lantern]

how many gb runs

[noble flume]

+2.3 gloves*

[hushed sparrow]

I think u both need a healthy dose of god.

[wicked lynx]

ayy, fuck yo chandelier, i've got something better

[chilly mist]

I dont think you have to overcomplicate it, in no time you'll be swimming in catalyst charges and tier pieces from raid. Just do what sims best I'd say

[wicked lynx]

this is the definition of cringe, send it to realz

[noble flume]

yeah i guess its time for everything xd

[wicked lynx]

my defensive is cosmetic

[drowsy jetty]

I am 600 ilvl whats a good dps at the end of the dungein , doing 2-4kwys only

[balmy condor]

5 today

[balmy condor]

skill issue?

[echo tartan]

should i become q goorogue

i like gooning

[wicked lynx]

i guess i just have to be a fatebound rogue and coinflip it

[balmy condor]

read the text on your screen bozo

[wicked lynx]

WHERES THE ANIMATION

TO SHOW ME WHICH SIDE TO RUN TO

bozo

[soft shale]

if you pre ams the animation breaks for some reason

[hushed sparrow]

[wicked lynx]

[soft shale]

indi coinpani

[wicked lynx]

i got it from a horseman proc

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-reaction-information-my-reaction-to-that-information-my-honest-reaction-to-that-information-gif-613275461876515673

[soft shale]

EKEEEEEEEEk

same happens with cloak if you do it on the 1 sec thingy

[hushed sparrow]

Ive seen shield of vengeance also override it too

[soft shale]

game just cant compute

[royal lantern]

sitting at 31 in total with no trinket, stay strong

[balmy condor]

run away little girl, run away

[runic hinge]

I’m at 2. Save me from this prison

[soft shale]

i have kiss of death

that one is aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

hope to at least get serum

between spamming gb

[runic hinge]

I got a transmitter so I’m not actually farming that hard

[nimble tartan]

is the blasphemite and forcing 4 colors an uppie g for sin too

[oak eagle]

i had so many times

on bloodbound tonight in raid

that my transmitter thing would spawn in the blood

it was so cringe

[brisk kestrel]

Hey guys! how is it going for all of u? I'd like to ask something but I dont know if I'm in the correct board. Let me know if I'm confused

I've started playing wow like 2 months ago, with the end of dragonflight, and now I'm trying to improve my gameplay. I've looking at my stats and parses and I'm doing actually terrible. I've studied all the Whispyr videos and guides but there is something I'm still not doing correct.

I just wanted to ask, what is your process to improve? I want to hear your experience if that's ok with everyone, because just going into the dummy and keep repeating the rotation without knowing what to look for I've been doing it for a while and even if it helps I sometime feel like im really stuck. Thanks all and sorry for the bloating

[honest pelican]

kinda boring doing 8x3 delves a week just for vault, i wonder if ill still do them when i have 9/10 keys on farm

just for extra hero track

[runic hinge]

I think it spawns like forward to the right of you most times. I’m gonna try turning a bit before I send this week and see how it works out to not be in the blood

[royal lantern]

you dont

except for tmog

[honest pelican]

i guess so, myth traack will be bis. and unless i doubt ill need tier

[balmy condor]

Learning to read logs is a big thing

[limber lion]

Just spending a lot of time practicing and raiding with the mindset of wanting to improve every week will take you a long way

[brisk kestrel]

Thanks for answering! Yeah, that might be a big thing, I repeat over and over but I might not be able to know if that cycle I did was better than previous or not

[balmy condor]

Yeah that’s a problem for a lot of people

If you don’t know the mistake you can’t fix it

[cunning needle]

how do you tab back to the right target for DS stacks?

[brisk kestrel]

but my guild is starting to send the logs and I'm just terrible numbers, I'm a really competitive player in other games so, I really want to improve here, it feels akward to be doing shit. but after a month trying to improve (I was outlaw past expansion) I feel like im doing 0 progress. Just wanted to ask what do I have to look after when I'm practicing u know?

And again, sorry for bloating this chat

[digital zodiac]

Hey guys - how much should tanks be waiting for us to restealth? Or is it not a huge deal if they chain pull

[pliant remnant]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote is roughly 10-12% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon
• While Without a Trace can allow for better vanish timings, the difference in damage provided is at most replacing a non-stealth opener with a stealth opener (you aren't necessarily getting "added" casts, just "better" casts)
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[royal lantern]

can you send a log, so that somebody can check it?

[royal lantern]

0seconds

chainpulls are good

20% more agility from scent of blood is good

endless energy is good

[loud light]

I only get annoyed by the tanks that "chain pull" by taking like 1 mob at 3% hp and starting the next pull

sometimes you can get a freebie stealth anyway though

[digital zodiac]

Thank you!

[royal lantern]

ye, thats no chainpull, thats a dumbass tank

every class hates that

[pliant remnant]

or the mob is at 20% HP and is your marked target and is also a caster mob and you don't have a DN or Vanish ready

[brisk kestrel]

Yeah! I'm kind of new to logs but this is what I've been using? maybe u were refering to something else

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/82512086#difficulty=4

dont flame pls 🥲

[royal lantern]

@spice spire :3

[normal mist]

If anyone wants to jump in

Thread up

[royal lantern]

at work and no pc, sorry

[final star]

is it normal for fatebound to sim ever so slightly better?

I wouldn't play due to defensives, but just checking :3c

[balmy condor]

Yes

[final star]

thanks

[cerulean walrus]

Whispyr I want you to know that I was having a great morning and then remembered that chicken nugget video from a while ago

I’m getting flashbacks

[jade carbon]

Skardyn + mad is a good option for assa?

[sharp viper]

yes

[jade carbon]

But first use skardyn in burst and wait 15s to use mad?

[spark pulsar]

I see a lot of interest in helping Sardor, maybe somebody could take a look also at my logs? I'm having hard time maintaining proper rotation and often misclick, any hard points what I do wrong would be appriciated https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1WXm3nRapdTqkQBz#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=15

[jade carbon]

Or mad at start fight?

[cerulean walrus]

Skardyn’s should be used to line up with your opener

[crisp pine]

Can someone explain this to me

[real pike]

I slightly disagree with this, it's not so much about the mathematic DPS loss, but by the time you've finished manually rupturing shit the pack is already half dead

[static glacier]

then the tank should be chaining to the next pack

the idea is with proper chaining your uptime on scent of blood / multiple ruptures won't take a hit ]

[balmy condor]

Blindside proc

[static glacier]

issue is tanks chaining with 1 5% hp mob alive

[balmy condor]

You don’t need to rupture every mob brother

[crisp pine]

If it's a Blindside Proc logs show it as mutilate and ambush at the same time?

[real pike]

I rup 5 for scent of blood tho, is that even too much?

[balmy condor]

It can

[vale lantern]

Isn’t it 3 for scent or am I dumb

[balmy condor]

In the specific situation you’re bitching about, yes

If mobs are dying you don’t dot

[balmy condor]

5 to max

[crisp pine]

That's fucked up
Thanks

[clever sapphire]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[vale lantern]

Ohh okay I usually just try for 3 and then go for caustic splatter

[balmy condor]

Caustic spatter legit just brainrot talent I hate this stupid ass talent

[static glacier]

if people are chaining you initially prio ct then rupture your main target, at that point you gota decide how long the pull will be regarding env vs further ruptures

[real pike]

and if they're not dying the time it takes to rup up is negligible I suppose

[vale lantern]

Caustic splatter is so free I honestly wish we just got more aoe bleeds outside of vanish instead of it

[balmy condor]

Well if they’re not dying you can kinda snowball the ruptures through the pack yeh

[vale lantern]

Outside of keeping up CT I keep that up

[real pike]

cause you'll want the energy for big spam also

[balmy condor]

But like a good 60% of your damage is legit just CT and fok->envenom

[real pike]

apart from when I forget to apply CS hue

[vale lantern]

Yeah caustic a little to strong but I’m not gonna tell blizzard that

[balmy condor]

Caustic is WAY too strong lmao

[static glacier]

there is also the strat of

[vale lantern]

Replace caustic with like rupture always hits a second target or something I think that’s be sick

[static glacier]

staying back and killing the last 1-2 mobs of a pack to get ur restealth

[real pike]

caustic is getting so much more value in higher keys I'm finding cause you get KB up almost every pack

[static glacier]

you lose like 3-4 globals but get restealth

[cerulean walrus]

Never before has a single talent swap carried so much damage lmao

[balmy condor]

Going from 2% internal bleeding to 25% caustic spatter

“Choice” node

[cerulean walrus]

Yep

[real pike]

sometimes it gets fucky and doesn't let you restealth tho and that feels bad

[cerulean walrus]

If an add is alive for more than fucking 10 seconds it’s already better

[brave gazelle]

Ngl i be a caustic enjoyer

[balmy condor]

Regardless of the time actually

[static glacier]

if its a pack with mobs that will put you in combat you just suck it up and go

[balmy condor]

2 target is just caustic

By a mile

[static glacier]

ngl still do well on dmg, maybe not far ahead as usual but still goot enough

[real pike]

I need to learn which ones these are

[balmy condor]

Any time anything is more than raw single target caustic actually obliterates internal bleeding

[vale lantern]

My outlaw rogue guild is makes fun of my caustic splatter so I make fun of her blade flurry

[cerulean walrus]

God I love Caustic Flurry

Blade Spatter

[real pike]

guys can anyone talk me out of doing a dagger for my third craft even though I have a 626 MH already? it's by far the biggest dps increase I can get out of gilded crests

[vale lantern]

Blade splatter “part of your dagger break off into nearby mobs bleeding them for x damage”

[royal lantern]

i agree with varas that spatter should be a choice node with IC (and both in a different spot then)

[balmy condor]

Why wouldn’t you?

[brave gazelle]

If you can afford it and don't need anymore embellishments then why not?

[real pike]

idk the guide says only craft a dagger if you get unlucky looting one and I'm bad at making my own decisions lmao

[royal lantern]

how do we call the sub trickster Bladeflurry?

[cerulean walrus]

Spatter really does have capstone power lmao

[royal lantern]

[cerulean walrus]

Goofy Weeb Shit

[static glacier]

then it's just an awkward choice

spatter can function alone but ic can't

[balmy condor]

Well you don’t have a 639 so I guess you’re unlucky, get to crafting

[real pike]

oh unlucky like that then yeah I will ty

[balmy condor]

Incorrect actually, caustic is equal to 2.5 capstones worth

[cerulean walrus]

True and real

[balmy condor]

It’s far more than capstone power

[royal lantern]

if we start doing that shit

how many capstones worth is venemous wounds

[balmy condor]

I think last I checked venomous was a 30% dps loss

So

Probably all of them

[cerulean walrus]

When is Whispyr gonna cook the Deathmarkless build with Subterfuge and double vanish?

[crisp pine]

If I play subterfuge with Deathstalker do I cast Ambush 6 times in a row in my opener tho

[royal lantern]

actually thought its higher tbh

[vale lantern]

When does whispyr get a job at blizzard to give assassin a buff

[balmy condor]

Never

I am far too stupid

[crisp pine]

far too cute to work at blizzard actually

[fleet turtle]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[crisp pine]

to work in general tbh

[balmy condor]

Blizzard devs I met at blizzcon were actually terrifyingly intelligent and they were like yeah I’m the dumbest in my team

[cerulean walrus]

[royal lantern]

not working as a game dev is actually a smart thing, not many jobs are worse except some REALLY hard Physical Labor stuff

[balmy condor]

I don’t think people actually understand how smart these people are

[cerulean walrus]

Scary AF

Intimidating aura

[crisp pine]

Oh yea? If they're so smart how come [bug]?

[balmy condor]

Real

[royal lantern]

uhm, but they nerfed fury warrior and the warriors in my guild now Spam shity gifs of warrior inside a grave, so the devs are clearly very stupid and big dum dums

[balmy condor]

If so smart then why augmentation

[hot fulcrum]

bugs are coming from QA. No QA -> no bug tickets

[royal lantern]

if so smart why no free mythic gear for everything

[royal lantern]

allright, aug was probably their biggest mistake, and im convinced that the balance team regrets everything about it

[crisp pine]

If they're so smart then they'd have QA
simple as that smh

[balmy condor]

They do have QA

[crisp pine]

I know
But I gotta go with the bit

It's the law

[hot fulcrum]

Biggest mistake to be blizz QA isn't it?

[crisp pine]

The Outlaw one might say

[cerulean walrus]

A Warrior’s intelligence is directly tied to how strong warrior is in the current patch. The stronger the warrior…. The stupider they become. When warrior is very powerful, a near mass-extinction level event can occur due to sheer stupidity.

[vale lantern]

If so smart why work at blizzard

[crisp pine]

Have you guys seen the excerpt from Schreiers new book?
Activision was apparently very confused why blizzard had support staff and a cinematic team

[cerulean walrus]

Don’t worry they’re making up for it now

[neon thunder]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[vale lantern]

New rogue support spec coming “cannoneer” you give your friends cannonballs to do the damage with

[hot fulcrum]

so my friends will play with my balls?

[vale lantern]

Yes exactly

[faint path]

now I understand why none accepting me lmao in 30 second 85 pending most of them 620 lmao

[vale lantern]

Gotta be quicker than that

[faint path]

did any of u tried sub in m+?

[indigo comet]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[echo tartan]

w character creation for rogue or nah

[faint path]

that looks so good ngl

[echo tartan]

real shit

[normal mist]

Yeah that's perfect

[echo tartan]

aight bet

thanks

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-done-all-done-all-set-im-finished-gif-14305651

[echo tartan]

holy dripfit

how do i get to dalaran now

[normal mist]

With that drip u don't need to

[echo tartan]

i figured it out

holyy molyy what a close duel

[cedar hare]

!bug

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Bug tracker: https://github.com/SimCMinMax/WoW-BugTracker/labels/Rogue

[cedar hare]

Is there a list of current bugs for rogue ?

[chilly mist]

The struggle is finally over

[cedar hare]

That is not old

[subtle tundra]

now go farm grimba

[cerulean walrus]

We love Happy Batol

[cerulean walrus]

Alright bud

[subtle tundra]

woah

tertiary bros

[chilly mist]

you're like super duper giga fast now

[tawny geyser]

I mean GZ..but why am I cursed?

[chilly mist]

think its my bad luck on m0s, just stacking up my luck meter for m+

[cedar hare]

I will do you one better

[tawny geyser]

nah gtfo..

[subtle tundra]

ill do one even better

upgrade it

[chilly mist]

very juicy though

[cedar hare]

im 3 to short xD

[chilly mist]

gz

[tawny geyser]

ok fu all

kekw

[cedar hare]

but gonna get it after next run

to 639

[subtle tundra]

i have blizzard connections

to give me

[tawny geyser]

I'm on 30 runs atm

[cedar hare]

!bugs

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Bug tracker: https://github.com/SimCMinMax/WoW-BugTracker/labels/Rogue

[chilly mist]

im getting more gear when im actually not farming for it

[cedar hare]

This is not the bugs list im looking for !

!bug

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Bug tracker: https://github.com/SimCMinMax/WoW-BugTracker/labels/Rogue

[novel moss]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[royal lantern]

wanna trade it with my 639 sacbrood?

[echo tartan]

if lorewise the humans and horde have been fighting together so long why cant we do ow content together 😔

i lowkey wanna play a gnome but i cant cuz all my homie are horde 😔

[royal lantern]

you can????

mate, tf are you talking about

we literally have cross faction and cross server guilds lol

[echo tartan]

i said

ow

overworld

or lfr

[meager granite]

Does anyone else is having issue with Grim Batol trinket sometimes not activating when in a maccro with deathmark?

[south prawn]

do u guys save cds for silken court charge? at the start of the fight

[jade carbon]

Nope

At start fight you have a bloodlust

[bitter badger]

Hey all I got a question, if my kingsbane is up but my deathmark still has 30sec cds, should I wait for the deathmark?

[tight condor]

That shouldnt happen

[jade carbon]

If you use correctly your KB and deathmark, maximum cds beetwen kb and dm propably be 5-10s

[bitter badger]

yeah it happened to me a few times in dungeons

[scarlet wyvern]

WoWHead says craft Boots and Wrist with Haste/Mastery

ICYVeins says craft Wrist and Belt with Crit/Mastery

So what now???

[tight condor]

[spice surge]

It doesnt really matter

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[jade carbon]

Propably in this situation you want to save your cds for another pack and burst prio target mobs

[normal mist]

It doesn't really matter the choice

[scarlet wyvern]

ah okay

thx

[bitter badger]

alright thanks

[jade carbon]

But if im saying wrong, someone here corrects my answer 😁

[mystic osprey]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[sharp estuary]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[loud gull]

How is that minigame trinket ? It sims pretty high

[oak eagle]

i hate it

i want my skardyns back

shit spawns in the worst places all the time

had it spawn in the blood on Bloodbound at least once a pull last night

[spice surge]

It always spawns 1:30 o'clock, northeast, front right to how youre facing

Both the circle and the orb

[oak eagle]

thing is still stupid

[nova flax]

[timid marsh]

is there an AddOn that equips automatically for other specc?

[oak eagle]

the standard WoW UI can do that

with item sets

[proud pelican]

This is valuable information that I’m going to pretend I knew all along

[cinder steppe]

i've been using BtWLoadouts

helps with multispeccing

and uses both talents and item sets you have made

[rain apex]

Hello fellow scoundrels.

I have a hard time getting invited to M+ groups. Does someone else have the same problem?

I can sit for more then an hour spam-searching +7 and +8 before i finally get invited to a mid grp.
Getting into a grim batol 7+ groupis impossible for me.

Plis help // Smygslakt-Kazzak

[royal lantern]

the thing is simply

GB has 200applications in 30seconds

[cinder steppe]

try to push your own key maybe, thats what worked for me when no one invites and i dont have group

[cinder steppe]

also that xD

[zenith prairie]

What’s the command for the crafting chart with ilvls and stuff?

[spice surge]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[zenith prairie]

Ty kind

[vestal fractal]

Guys How do yall Play silkencourt? Or more generally Speaking fights with 2 Target? Just keep Garrone and rupture on Both and proceed as normal? Or is it worth cleaving with ct and spatter?

[rotund oak]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[royal lantern]

ofc spatter, you play spatter the moment you have more then 1target

and then keep bleeds on both and thats it

[vestal fractal]

Okay

My Rating just always goes to dogwater Territory on that Fight specifically

CT Probably Not ?although there are the adds.

?

[rotund oak]

ct is worth in 3+

spatter is passive constant dmg

[urban trench]

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[vestal fractal]

Well there is 3+ for a few Moments Hence the question

[rotund oak]

well does it sim higher than spatter/non-ct

if thats the case then why not

[oblique iron]

Hey guys I’m new to rogue and I’m sorry if this is a dumb question, but I’m suppose to tab target and spread bleeds/poisons right? Not an ability that spreads from one target?

[vestal fractal]

Basically what im asking

[rotund oak]

u are asking for silken though

[spice surge]

Bleeds ye when you do not have Indiscrimate carnage up

[rotund oak]

think there is already a recommended build for it

[vestal fractal]

Followup or in the Same vein what is an easy quick cut for ct?

[spice surge]

Poisons get spread automatically by fok

[oblique iron]

For mythic+ do i tab target and spread garrote and rupture?

[nova aspen]

you should watch whispyr's M+ youtube guide on assassin

[oblique iron]

Is it on YouTube?

[nova aspen]

ye

[oblique iron]

Kk ty

[nova aspen]

u know u've found it when he starts the video with a HIYA

[north phoenix]

Hello everyone, i was using WoWAnalyzer to get some information about my Logs. For me it looks okeish, uptime of Garrote, Rupture, Envenom usage and so on. Yet i still don't understand why in some fights i have only like 800k dps where someone with same ilvl has 1,3m. Any suggestions what i should do next?

[normal mist]

Trinkets, pi

Main Weapon

Doing the rotation properly

Padding sometimes

[rotund oak]

the shoulders from the severed threads renown vendor

[normal mist]

They look good yeah!

[north phoenix]

thanks - gonna try to compare what i pressed and what he pressed. do i use warcraftlogs for that, or is there some other option?

[normal mist]

Wcl is a good place yeah

[nova aspen]

i assume u both have 4pc of tier set?

500k is an insane difference in single target at equiv ilvl, i assume its an aoe fight you're looking at?

[north phoenix]

Rasha nan

so, mostly ST

[nova aspen]

if they have a 636 mh weapon, and high ilvl bis trinkets, where yours are like 610 that could be quite the gap but 500k dps there is something else

maybe he somehow managed to get good spatter padding

[steel geyser]

Does spatter even works on rashanan

[normal mist]

Eh

I talented out of it