idk
#assassination
bronze pike
theres like a million dps per que
and if you get decline its usually cause all the dps spaces are full
spring moat
its weird though. i post my own key.. and nobody applies
clear nexus
is it okay to do Dungeon Slice when finding top gear
bronze pike
spice spire
Yea
bronze pike
see
cinder quartz
is it okay to do Dungeon Slice when finding top gear
sure. it's just a weird metric
unreal cove
!craft
prisma monolithBOT
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
clear nexus
okaay thanks
thorn fjord
Damn prob gonna be FB gaming tomorrow night
cerulean nest
whats the argument against using mandate with another on-use?
gritty laurel
the only argument is that you don't wanna press another button or want a trinket that helps aoe more, i guess
keen spruce
!wax
prisma monolithBOT
Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:
- If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
- If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip
fleet pagoda
we were so close to the free weapon-coatings club
gritty laurel
easy, just use a 606 main hand. wax is back, baby
kindred oriole
!sheet
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
umbral cypress
as a non mythic raider do i craft another dagger?
runic hinge
No. Offhand isn’t that much dps
limber dew
how do i sim an embellished item that i do not have? I want to sim 2 x dawn, and replace my 619 weapon and bracers(ascendent combo) with 2 x 626 daggers. cant figure out how to give the armbands and belt the embellishment
full palm
Is it okay to press envenom on 6cp if darkest night is not active?
novel star
Is it okay to press envenom on 6cp if darkest night is not active?
no
wait
wdym
like
you have the buff and you arent consuming it?
then yea never ever
but anything above 5 is fine if target has an active mark
full palm
If I have the mark applied let's say on 2 stacks, I have garrote up, rupture up and I'm on 6cp, do I mutilate to reach 7 or envenom on 6 and consume the stack of deathstalkers mark
novel star
why would you go to 7cp
mark stack consumptions are 5+
only darkest night requires 7
just send it if ur at 5 or higher
umbral cypress
dose it work with anima charged combo points aswell?
cinder quartz
consume dn
spice spire
What’s dn?
limber dew
if you have dn up and you dont 7 CP finish, does it continue to count down, or does it just vanish?
lime crypt
limber dew
do i have 30 seconds to get a 7 cp finisher
runic hinge
do i have 30 seconds to get a 7 cp finisher
Yes
spice spire
if you have dn up and you dont 7 CP finish, does it continue to count down, or d...
Continue to count down
runic hinge
But you should be trying to consume the mark asap
full palm
just send it if ur at 5 or higher
I thought it was a damage loss if not on 7cp
novel star
nope
huge damage loss to force 7cp actually
because youre wasting energy on overcapped combo points
full palm
Thanks!
novel star
np 
limber dew
is that also way 5cp finishers are acceptable? so you dont proc a seal of fate and lose a CP
novel star
you only force 7 when you have dn
spice spire
is that also way 5cp finishers are acceptable? so you dont proc a seal of fate a...
Correct
5+
novel star
spice spire
Except for darkest night like oli with too many i’s said
spice spire
Don’t make me tap the sign
novel star
i just cant resist
proven jasper
Could use even more i’s
novel star
i can add a couple more
spice spire
novel star
there u go
proven jasper
One for each time kb has been parried
novel star
i havent had that happen yet 
proven jasper
Most likely wont often
novel star
fella like me stand behind da enemy
proven jasper
It sucked last tier
full palm
What would be the best way to improve my ST rotation? Analyze logs? It's my first season where I'm trying to push some pve stuff!
proven jasper
lots of bosses you could only hit the front of
spice spire
What would be the best way to improve my ST rotation? Analyze logs? It's my firs...
Yes
Also conferring with the rotation and making sure you’re comfortable playing it
Then doing some fights and analyzing your logs helps
Also good luck! I hope you have fun!
full palm
Thank you!
limber dew
how do i sim embellishment that are not on my current gear
mental wing
Does Dragon-Tempered Blades reduce the application chance by 30% of all your lethal and non-lethal poisons or just the 2nd lethal and non that you apply to your weapons ? 
slate crown
all
keen spruce
pulsar apex
how do i sim embellishment that are not on my current gear
Chose top gear then add the item. You can then hit the + icon on the added item to add a bunch of variables. Embellishments being one of them
thorn fjord
<:xla:1283127722180087808>
Seriously though a .8% difference is super negligible
And more than accounts for any fuck up i may have with mark
I think it’s the play for me
runic hinge
Damn prob gonna be FB gaming tomorrow night
Just so you can be top fatebound log?
thorn fjord
Just so I can focus more on mechanics and enjoy a rotation that doesn’t have me over capping cp
limber lion
!craft
prisma monolithBOT
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
full palm
!bis
prisma monolithBOT
BiS lists are not helpful towards gearing yourself. In order for BiS items to truly be BiS, all items in the list have to be obtained at that level exactly, or else it doesn't make sense. Missing a socket for example would shift your stats slightly. You should always compare your gear through top gear or droptimizer instead.
Pre-raid or Pre-season BiS is especially not helpful, and we do not have any of them. These are absolute meaningless bait for gear that you will be replacing the moment the season comes out. Use Top Gear/Droptimizer to compare against your character
thorn fjord
@runic hinge https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dhwnbtVSLjFXSsvELRdrvS huge difference in Dslice tho
5.8 =/
runic hinge
I was 8% in dslice but I like fb better for m+ by a large margin.
DS is just simming way better
keen spruce
Just flip coins better
ebon geyser
any good weakauras for assa?
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
runic hinge
True
runic hinge
Just flip coins better
You can definitely high roll FB and outplay your sim by a lot
thorn fjord
gonna try it out tonight... I just know flip flopping from FB in raid and DS in M+ is going to fuck with my muscle memory lol
celest marlin
is caustic spatter only taken on 2+ targets?
gritty laurel
yeah, it does nothing on pure single target
thorn fjord
You can definitely high roll FB and outplay your sim by a lot
I can be a bit of an rng lord
dense cloud
so wtf does this mean?
do i swap or not
that sim on top says 1% gain but doesnt show combination
storm hedge
Does Evasion DR stack with Elusiveness and Bait and switch? In other words is Evasion 40% (Or even 42%/whatever it would be multiplicative) or just 20% DR. On Magical hits ofc...
thorn fjord
I did
balmy condor
that sim on top says 1% gain but doesnt show combination
well you have it showing gear difference from equiped, and the only item it's showing is the chest, so just changing the chest is 1%
spice spire
do you keep both bosses dotted?
Yes
zealous star
!up
prisma monolithBOT
glacial stump
Nice
thorn fjord
@balmy condor are you still playing FB?
glacial stump
Go check
thorn fjord
That’s amazing
arctic socket
😦
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> are you still playing FB?
nah
slate crown
Ahh my tracker was delayed, found the post
silk bane
runic hinge
gonna try it out tonight... I just know flip flopping from FB in raid and DS in ...
I hate opening with ambush
balmy condor
or fully off the GCD
should be fully off gcd
wise pike
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
wise pike
!kb
nocturne crater
they really expect us to be able to sustain 8k every 2 hours for whetstones?
glacial stump
slate crown
they really expect us to be able to sustain 8k every 2 hours for whetstones?
Who is "they"?
Market sets prices not blizzard
nocturne crater
blizzard sets price when they make null stones 1/10000 chance
royal lantern
they really expect us to be able to sustain 8k every 2 hours for whetstones?
just dont use them
whetstones are 1%
cloud nacelle
!craft
prisma monolithBOT
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
balmy condor
rank 1 deep toxins are 50g a piece
royal lantern
isnt deep toxin dogshit
slate crown
oh didn't realize that's a thing
royal lantern
and manaoil is just better and not more expensive anyway
uneven plume
Feint off gcd is wild
open mountain
Crit haste oil is also cheap
slate crown
Also wait
royal lantern
Crit haste oil is also cheap
ye, cus its also the 2nd recipe enchanters get this expansion
royal lantern
while all others need you to spec into it
slate crown
not 4k
ornate dawn
Stop being brokies and just use the whetstones
keen spruce
2 envenoms worth of dmg over a 7 minute raid fight: unplayable dookie dogshit uninstall shittor
slim pebble
2 envenoms worth of dmg over a 7 minute raid fight: unplayable dookie dogshit un...
Someone gets it
slate crown
That's 4k / 2 hours you need to sustain for them
spring moat
need a weak aura guru real quick... im using whispyr's pack.. i want my slice n dice to blink to blink JUST IN CASE it calls off
royal lantern
whetstone prices will drop even more anyway, when all the mining bots get the knowledge points where they drop full nullstones instead of shards
slate crown
(At least on NA)
keen spruce
Full gem and enchant sim every time a new piece of gear is acquired 
melt my pc 
432 dps increase 
royal lantern
(At least on NA)
EU in general is more expensive in gold
strange python
strange python
this is why you dont follow what zerocool does
he crafted an int dagger for himself
fickle lotus
keen spruce
fickle lotus
totally didn't do the same thing during preseason
fickle lotus
No it varies
royal lantern
Are most classes minor defensives off gcd?
many are
slate crown
and victory rush isn't
manic quartz
Since youre here i have another question, if i wanted the last cp to lets say have glow around it when darkest night is up, how would one go around doing that and is it complex?
royal lantern
rogue in general was 1 of the classes that has most things on the gcd
for deffensives
balmy condor
Since youre here i have another question, if i wanted the last cp to lets say ha...
depends on how your wa is setup
uneven plume
Warriors in shambles rn
slate crown
but yeah if you're not using either of ours it could be simple could be complicated
manic quartz
Well im using Devlings group and it used to do that but it doesnt anymore for some reason :/
balmy condor
power
royal lantern
in aoe radiant is slightly better, in ST depths is slightly better
slate crown
Well im using Devlings group and it used to do that but it doesnt anymore for so...
/cast Ritual of Summoning
@white lance
manic quartz
now if i have darkest night up there is no indication about it on the compo points unless i have landed on charged compo point. then it glows purple.
spring moat
hit button
manic quartz
i was afraid to @ them if they are busy or something or sleep idk xD
royal lantern
`/cast Ritual of Summoning`
<@102133453268455424>
it didnt work, maybe try Ritual of Doom?
slate crown
i was afraid to @ them if they are busy or something or sleep idk xD
They don't have to respond right away. They'll see it whenever
slate crown
it didnt work, maybe try Ritual of Doom?
slate crown
i was afraid to @ them if they are busy or something or sleep idk xD
Thing is Auras are complicated and depending on how it's set up, I don't want to assume how their pack works. Also, the other thing is, you said it did work that way before and now it doesn't, which sounds like something may have broken
So would be good to let them know as it seems like something they'd want to address in the upload as well
spring vault
some players have a hard time accepting change it seems xD
sullen mural
Would you guys just socket whatever socket simms highest or one of each color for the unique crit effect
balmy condor
some players have a hard time accepting change it seems xD
"I left game cuz Assa sucked"
no they didn't lmao
uneven plume
He meant “Rerolled mage”
spring vault
"I left game cuz Assa sucked"
Man a guy named foxslayer apparently infamous has been spamming me all day
or hyperfox
spice spire
Hyperfox
spring vault
Apparently i awakened him by mentioning assa in our guild discord
nova aspen
feint off the gcd is big poggies
spice spire
earnest remnant
hope his bahamas trip is going nicely
spice spire
But that’s not a common thing
spice spire
hope his bahamas trip is going nicely
When are you sending me to the Bahamas
balmy condor
Honestly forgot why
his body was a machine that turned information into misinformation and was causing a scene 24/7
earnest remnant
vaguely remember him lying about his IO
spice spire
Including a scuffle with my literal goat
dense cloud
if a ring dropped with socket, can i add an extra 2 with the item or no
spice spire
Dadsen
cobalt sphinx
if a ring dropped with socket, can i add an extra 2 with the item or no
Max of 2
slim pebble
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
spring vault
@balmy condor Atleast he admits that he found the class hard
keen spruce
IO and parse liars give me the fukin giggles
Like big dawg this is public information
rotund oak
spice spire
Happens we schmoove on
rotund oak
who is he even
spice spire
SL days
ebon temple
does sin really have that much button bloat?
spice spire
Compared to bfa, sure.
warm oyster
guys - i have atm 616 craft bracer and dagger. atm i have shit rings and 606 offhand dagger. would you do 3rd craft dagger or rings?
spring vault
guys - i have atm 616 craft bracer and dagger. atm i have shit rings and 606 off...
Im going for ring as a 3rd
rotund oak
Bleed and poison
sin has 4 buttons that apply bleeds on its rotation and another one that duplicates them.Poisons are
marble hemlock
does sin really have that much button bloat?
compared to most other classes? absolutely
rotund oak
envenom and shiv
marble hemlock
we basically dont repeat a single button press for like the first 10 GCDs of our opener
rotund oak
so two more
spice spire
compared to most other classes? absolutely
Play brewmaster pal
Then talk to me about bloating
spice spire
Selibrity rising
warm oyster
Im going for ring as a 3rd
which one you rolling?
marble hemlock
But many other classes press 3-5 buttons in opener
spice spire
Ye
slate crown
We do have more buttons than other classes. Others are worse than us, but we are not on the simple end
spring vault
which one you rolling?
going for a static ring (Have acend and double as crafts) Need crit ^^
spice spire
We do have more buttons than other classes. Others are worse than us, but we are...
Counterpoint: I have the IQ of a toaster and play the class
warm oyster
going for a static ring (Have acend and double as crafts) Need crit ^^
crit master?
near nacelle
I was hoping for a real change not just feint being offgcd which i mean is a good quality of life i guess but idk it was never an issue
marble hemlock
like, this is not a fun opener honestly
keen spruce
I like the piano openers
spring vault
Could be worse
keen spruce
As long as the rest is like pretty chill
proven jasper
me too tbh
keen spruce
Which Assas kind of is
marble hemlock
in terms of number of hotkeys you gotta press
keen spruce
It’s a lil extra
proven jasper
the cooldowns is supposed to be the intense part
spring vault
crit master?
Yea prob but im gonna have to change some gear since im mastery stacked like crazy
spice spire
What about coldkeys
proven jasper
mine are warm
rotund oak
how warm
potent barn
it's muscle memory
rotund oak
thats normal bruh
bright turret
Atleast warthin helping a little bit with lobbing dance, and SND button going away soon
spring vault
what do we think about this trinket? Thinking compared to Ara and Spyglass
topaz pebble
Best time to use Trecherous transmitter right before marked for death?
keen spruce
what do we think about this trinket? Thinking compared to Ara and Spyglass
It’s good u just can’t get it at high ilvl
sullen mural
damn we are so back
warped belfry
!wax
prisma monolithBOT
Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:
- If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
- If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip
rotund oak
damn we are so back
huuuuge
spice spire
Best time to use Trecherous transmitter right before marked for death?
Depends on other trinkets likely yes
drifting cloud
old ban from like 2 years ago
tell me it aint so, surely its been less than 2 years
runic hinge
So is feint off the gcd entirely or can you not press it if you just pressed something else
spring vault
It’s good u just can’t get it at high ilvl
Yea, but it is possible to get at 626 and for 5 target aoe it "supposedly sims higher" so got me thinking
keen spruce
Wording unclear
balmy condor
tell me it aint so, surely its been less than 2 years
idk it was around start of dragonflight
drifting cloud
keen spruce
Yea, but it is possible to get at 626 and for 5 target aoe it "supposedly sims h...
I mean if it sims higher use it 
late surge
guys, can we do good add dam on bloodbound
I swear adds die before half kingbane is gone
balmy condor
https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/316923750073499648/1153046571802...
the once a year ryler ping to ask how long hyperfox has been banned
that's not classic
rotund oak
Wording unclear
true,it doesnt specify if it compeltely ignores gcd,just doesnt trigger it once pressed
balmy condor
spring vault
Im glad i can unite everyone to remeber the occation
balmy condor
Im glad i can unite everyone to remeber the occation
it's like an old-head reunion
keen spruce
true,it doesnt specify if it compeltely ignores gcd,just doesnt trigger it once ...
Yeah hard to say. In the past I’m pretty sure they’d just say “removed from the gcd” but who knows
chilly mist
Would ring be our craft after belt,dagger,wrist?
balmy condor
sure
rotund oak
Yeah hard to say. In the past I’m pretty sure they’d just say “removed from the ...
yup its 
thorn fjord
CB to env in FB right?
runic hinge
idk it was around start of dragonflight
Damn. I coulda been here for that
balmy condor
whatever your worst item is I guess
daring hamlet
is dropping vicious venoms for sangine blades and improved poisons worth simming
balmy condor
sure
spring vault
it's like an old-head reunion
I have a question, regarding first boss. How do we handle the intermissions Im finding it quite akward to Setup bleeds on the prio adds
balmy condor
I have a question, regarding first boss. How do we handle the intermissions Im f...
first boss in raid?
proven jasper
feet
keen spruce
yup its <:sus:787773784085757972>
Almost sounds like it’s keeping the cringe gcd locking for a defensive but won’t completely destroy sub rogue’s dance?
balmy condor
first boss in raid you just take a darkest night proc with you to the intermission
and that's that
spring vault
first boss in raid?
Yea ulgrax, i find it akward to find anything to do besides being a feeder bot
keen spruce
shy pecan
<:BearFoot:1048749404061970433>
No
balmy condor
adds won't live long enough on heroic ever
rotund oak
Almost sounds like it’s keeping the cringe gcd locking for a defensive but won’t...
maybe they tryna troll flawless form from triggering from back to back dances on trickster
spring vault
adds won't live long enough on heroic ever
even mythic tbh
keen spruce
maybe they tryna troll flawless form from triggering from back to back dances on...
I don’t even know what that means 
spring vault
just rup max cp envenom
ah i see, thanks man i was bashing my head in on prog xD
runic hinge
Almost sounds like it’s keeping the cringe gcd locking for a defensive but won’t...
Macro feint to dance. Ez
spring vault
I mean boss damage is good its just intermission that makes the fight feel horrible (Guess thats part of the game)
warped hawk
hey why i don't get any fragment titans in dj ? ( the weekly quest)
balmy condor
that's sorta what I did
balmy condor
I mean boss damage is good its just intermission that makes the fight feel horri...
yeh that's normal
novel star
didnt see ptr notes until now 
cool change man
sudden bane
Why do my sims tell me to socket Haste/mast gems when i have more haste than crit? is haste better than i thought?
spice spire
Why do my sims tell me to socket Haste/mast gems when i have more haste than cri...
Are you deathstalker
rotund oak
I don’t even know what that means <:squishykek:844969396933492786>
there is a synergy with a node on trickster for sub that procs unseen blade(flickerstrike) basicly when u take dmg while feint is active u get unseen blade which procs fazed which increases 12% more dmg on finishers
sudden bane
Yes
chilly mist
What's the status of Vanish-ambush/Vanish-garrote with imp garr?
spice spire
Crit is worth less since we have an omega free GIGA envenom
chilly mist
we just do ambush now?
glass crystal
does crimson tempest calculate the per target increased dmg on application and stays the same or does it change dynamically if targets die while it is up?
grave trail
the slice n dice makes it so clunky in the opener
sudden bane
Crit is worth less since we have an omega free GIGA envenom
And is socketing 4 different colors not worth it ?
spice spire
Probably not depends on sim tbh
sudden bane
Alright ill trust the sims then Ty!
grave trail
it does
prisma coral
first boss in raid you just take a darkest night proc with you to the intermissi...
lol the final stage of grief, "acceptance"
novel star
ogcd feint will do way more for smoothness than snd removal in .0.5
spice spire
it does
You don’t even have to build for it anymore.
This is actually the least clunky version of snd sin
grave trail
without the snd u would land on the right cp everytime to envenom immediately
orchid cedar
the feint change feels good
proven jasper
u press the button once dawg what more do u need
spice spire
Yeah and if ifs and buts were candy and nuts the world would be a better place.
CttC makes it almost a non issue. That’s just semantics
orchid cedar
you press feint in keys a lot
novel star
oh yeah nvm true
grave trail
yes u do
novel star
i mean thats still one gcd though regardless
spice spire
Pressing an extra mut isn’t that bad
novel star
alright man
spec feels really clunky and unplayable cus of 2 gcds at the start of a 6 min pull
my bad
spice spire
Wait how is it two
novel star
Wait how is it two
i guess cause 1 sbs cp after rupture -> ER env
instead of snd er mut env
spice spire
I mean the world has agreed with you since they reintroduced it in shadowlands
thorn fjord
SnD was caked in back in bfa also
spice spire
We spent almost an entire expansion trolling @royal lantern for hating it
Doesn’t mean it’s enjoyed
balmy condor
lol the final stage of grief, "acceptance"
what?
proven jasper
you press feint in keys a lot
i was talking about the snd thing
but yes u do press feint in keys alot
huge change
spice spire
Just using semantics as a means of “if it doesn’t crit it’s clunked because of pressing mut again” is a strange one
cyan summit
is there a cap for crit ?
spice spire
Just crit the er and ur chuckling
cyan summit
lmao
balmy condor
accurate answer
spice spire
accurate answer
That’s the green name diff baby
soft shale
for spark things remember you can also sim what would spending 90 crests give you vs the other item
runic hinge
Just crit the er and ur chuckling
I’ve always crit er. Like it’s hard
spring moat
!craft
prisma monolithBOT
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
grand trail
!pooling
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Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom
- For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
- For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.
The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.
green pier
stupid question perhaps but, why can I no longer use Bubbling Wax? it just says the target is too low level.
glass crystal
does crimson tempest calculate the per target increased dmg on application and stays the same or does it change dynamically if targets die while it is up?
balmy condor
stupid question perhaps but, why can I no longer use Bubbling Wax? it just says ...
!wax / pins
prisma monolithBOT
Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:
- If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
- If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip
green pier
well shit
spice surge
does crimson tempest calculate the per target increased dmg on application and s...
Stays the same
glass crystal
so it is worth to crimson tempest 5 mobs even if 4 of them die shortly after?
so that the one bigger target gets a full CT?
or is that not worth
hasty moat
!wa
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chilly mist
so it is worth to crimson tempest 5 mobs even if 4 of them die shortly after?
While the tooltip suggests it would be based off of currently affected targets, im pretty sure it's based of amount of targets initially hit
Science performed on the poor rams outside of Dornagol
balmy condor
yes that's what eleem said
chilly mist
he did indeed
glass crystal
ok cool, so it can be used to "funnel" CT onto a big target or boss when small adds spawn that die quickly?
chilly mist
tired
balmy condor
probably not
quiet oar
south osprey
guys, best enchants for daggers?? m+
glass crystal
or is CT not worth on small numbers of targets even at max power
south osprey
TY ♥
quiet oar
I mean its probably a bad sample for reviewing
balmy condor
or is CT not worth on small numbers of targets even at max power
well you cast CT on 2
glass spade
Do we want to keep reapplying CT during AOE or do we generally just want to use it once and then forget about it
balmy condor
it's a dot you maintain
cunning basin
am i crazy or do those patch notes say feint is off gcd now?
glass crystal
well you cast CT on 2
but is it worth to CT a single mob at 5 target effectiveness?
when the others die and dont really take much CT dmg
balmy condor
sure
glass crystal
aight thanks
balmy condor
the one situation every 900 dungeons where that happens I guess
spice spire
<@226508540746006528> https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KnBQwaLv672m4RTb#figh...
Can someone thread this
glass crystal
happens pretty frequently imo 😄
spice spire
I I’ll be a bit until I can @quiet oar But I got you big dog 
glass crystal
thats why im asking
quiet oar
I I’ll be a bit until I can <@157187423950864386> But I got you big dog <:SmileD...
Ye no worries
Im thankful for the review
but i know one thing for sure
i KBed everytime
he dashed
spice spire
quiet oar
So my KB windows are prolly hurting to look at
balmy condor
happens pretty frequently imo 😄
the only one I can think of is the end of grim batol with the corrupters, but you already CT those in your opener to begin with
remote gate
!craft
prisma monolithBOT
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
glass crystal
the only one I can think of is the end of grim batol with the corrupters, but yo...
last boss in arakara also sometimes has multiple adds in range.i dont know all the scenarios off the top of my head, but its been happening to me often enough to where i thought id ask
weary juniper
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what ...
about this, im atm with wrist / belt, since i have HC weapons, the damage vs ascension in raid is that hard?
runic hinge
last boss in arakara also sometimes has multiple adds in range.i dont know all t...
It’s worth it to pad your sudden demise overall and point to the meters and flex
glass crystal
also in pulls where one guy just live much longer than the rest and anothee CT cast is possible before they die
bleak sun
agile willow
Everything I've simmed the damage done or gained by the embellishments is like 2-4k different. Rotation seems much more important, afaik
glass crystal
It’s worth it to pad your sudden demise overall and point to the meters and flex
well as we just learned it isnt pad, its more ST
balmy condor
it has to be specifically like 4-5 though
weary juniper
Everything I've simmed the damage done or gained by the embellishments is like 2...
tyy
balmy condor
like WILDLY specific
glass crystal
last boss city of threads also works with the roots😅 im just saying there are some cases. anyways thanks for the help
odd nebula
Are we actually this far behind other classes or are the wcl charts skewed?
It doesn't feel bad in game imo
static glacier
the one situation every 900 dungeons where that happens I guess
might be an obvious q but didn't the balls from affix count? how does ct dmg get calculated? is it dynamic or a snapshot of when it's cast
vast igloo
Just saw the PTR changes with Feint being off the gcd. They're cookin'. 
torn meteor
!craft
prisma monolithBOT
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
static glacier
if it's dynamic then gg
also I swear it's illegal to ct the small mobs for risk of killing them before the surge ability aoes people
runic hinge
Is ptr up? Can anyone tell me if feint is actually off gcd or if it’s its Locked out if you’re already in one
balmy condor
the what
balmy condor
oh yeah you don't aoe those
static glacier
play in my group has been to avoid aoeing those until the spell has gone out, then blow em up
jagged niche
after the boss aoe you just kill them
balmy condor
yeah
jagged niche
!fuu
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static glacier
for transmitter, is it legal to macro to dm or should we have it used earlier? assume it takes 1-2 globals to proc its buff
balmy condor
you have to do the mini game
static glacier
yeah, im saying it takes me like 1-2 globals to play it
balmy condor
sure
grand trail
whats up with apl
balmy condor
mandate is weird
grand trail
was trying to sim mandate and it send it over skardyn
grand trail
i have apl fix for sub but not assa
royal lantern
We spent almost an entire expansion trolling <@346293680883236864> for hating it
i won in the end
grand trail
3rd craft this week
runic hinge
for transmitter, is it legal to macro to dm or should we have it used earlier? a...
The buff is only 15 seconds so when you send with dm it’ll be a sec til you get it which will cover all of kb
Kb being 14 seconds and coming after a shiv
cerulean compass
3rd craft this week
Okay thanks I was like how the f*** they got 3rd craft LUL
keen spruce
Tyran and I got heated
jagged niche
is the wowhead aoe opener up to date?
keen spruce
On an snd argument
crimson zephyr
general question: I'm only at 4/8hc atm and mainly pug (time with guild doesnt fit atm). I have 4 set already but only normal. Is it a no brainer to take glove set heroic or should I sim?
keen spruce
In like s2
cobalt sphinx
you gotta be delving blud
runic hinge
general question: I'm only at 4/8hc atm and mainly pug (time with guild doesnt f...
Always sim king
subtle tundra
i cant believe i farmed boe in mythic and got a drop
keen spruce
Over snd
subtle tundra
i cant believe i can play m+ and get more upgrades from raid trash
torn meteor
!craft
prisma monolithBOT
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
balmy condor
is the wowhead aoe opener up to date?
yes
jagged niche
yes
prolly got asked often but why exactly do we shiv before kb? given that the pack lives the full duration, wouldnt it be better to kb first and shiv for the last 8s?
balmy condor
if you have 1 charge yes
vague flare
very new to assa and rogue - can someone tell me what talent or passive effect makes mutilate and fan of knives give different amount of combo points sometimes? im having a hard time predicting the amount of combo points im going to get, is that just normal and you need to react or is it predictable?
balmy condor
seal fate
daring hamlet
whats the thresshold for a good vs. a perfect envenom cast on wowanalyzer
south osprey
!enchants
jagged niche
if you have 1 charge yes
thanks, trying to learn assa before i gain the strength to look into OL again 
daring hamlet
oh nm lol blue is just animacharged, green is good, there is no perfect my bad
balmy condor
thanks, so its just reactive then yeah?
yes
agile willow
Why do we want to be under 50% energy?
balmy condor
more envenoms
daring hamlet
er okay, so animarchaged envenom's can be "perfect" but regular envenom's can only be "good"?
torn meteor
Whats the best enchant for Daggers for assa M+
daring hamlet
like all those blues say "perfect" and all the green's say "good" - i assume you cant have better than "good" for the regular casts (which would've been my intiial question)
balmy condor
I don't think anyone has looked at envenom implementation in wowanalyzer for like a year and a half
daring hamlet
oh is wowanalyzer as a whole just outdated or just that piece
it seemed to have some update dpieces to it but maybe not
balmy condor
is someone actually maintaining it now
daring hamlet
seems like it
ashen rover
Well it's up for sin now
daring hamlet
you dont get the message that it's out of date
like you normally do when its out of date
ashen rover
Idk, tried to look in this discord but couldn't find the guy ahahah
So idk what it's worth really
daring hamlet
but iono, doesn't seem to be too critical, basically said I played perfectly and i cant imagine i played that well but then again im kinda a beast so maybe
runic hinge
who the fuck is sebshady
Will the real sebshady please stand up
daring hamlet
its exile in disguide
balmy condor
but iono, doesn't seem to be too critical, basically said I played perfectly and...
yeh I mean it's not strong enough to support that level of criticality
ashen rover
It yelled at me cause I envenomed before putting rupture in pandemic 
balmy condor
it gave me a red on envenom but this isn't a mistake
royal lantern
We were about to throw hands <@346293680883236864>
daring hamlet
it gave me a red on envenom but this isn't a mistake
bro you suck what the hell
balmy condor
also what
daring hamlet
multiple bad casts smh
daring hamlet
yeah its all fucked up
vale lantern
how do u cast a 0 cp envenom
runic hinge
Er not implemented
vale lantern
o.O
balmy condor
Er not implemented
no it is
runic hinge
Oh rip
balmy condor
daring hamlet
yo @sebshady we need answers
loud light
well this is all it says when looking at the "initial TWW compatibility"
https://github.com/WoWAnalyzer/WoWAnalyzer/commit/9d67183c57172737974f5686105cc62fafc3552b
vale lantern
+65 -967 oof
balmy condor
yeah
added evasion and ambush procs I guess idk
seems very first pass
cause it's not like
actually updated
it's just not completely broken
daring hamlet
nice effort though, respect that
wind totem
Does this mean feint is no longer on the gcd?
balmy condor
but 
hollow bronze
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
balmy condor
Does this mean feint is no longer on the gcd?
yes
balmy condor
wowanalyzer contributors actually just come and go like the tide it's crazy
subtle tundra
well it was only sucky if it was in cds
ashen rover
Well it says stuff is still being worked on like kingsbane so maybe he's still improving it
balmy condor
I remember during dragonflight there was someone who wanted feedback and things to implement
and then after we compiled a bunch of stuff
they were gone a week later
and it never got added
then there was no one for a while
clear nexus
im about to get KSM for the first time. I've only been pugging keys. I feel really good about myself
tawny geyser
Wait Feint really not on GCD anymore?
So we have Feint and SnD? ... modern ages truly.
lyric cave
!wa
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clear nexus
Wait Feint really not on GCD anymore?
So we have Feint and SnD? ... modern ages...
feint is on GCD
wind totem
when it moving off of the gcd
11.0.5
clear nexus
oh its moving off, FUCK THATS AMAZING
wind totem
yeah
balmy condor
I'm like
wind totem
and snd is auto now
balmy condor
really scared for feint nerfs
clear nexus
really scared for feint nerfs
what
wind totem
it doesnt need a nerf
clear nexus
ive been loving feint
balmy condor
yeh I mean
wind totem
i remember feint in ToS
slate crown
He's saying he's afraid it will be seen as too powerful now
tawny geyser
really scared for feint nerfs
for what reason? it's just a small defensive
balmy condor
feint is insanely fucking strong
slate crown
and will now be nerfed
balmy condor
and now it's off gcd
tawny geyser
Ahh
balmy condor
it's just a lot
sudden brook
Rogue is garbage they never nerf feint its fine
clear nexus
youre scared blizzard will nerf feint, but its not certain, is that what ua re saying senpai whispyr
lapis lantern
how do i get a socket on my omen waist?
wind totem
dont tell the devs but a 40% dr on a 15 sec cd is kinda strong 😄
balmy condor
how do i get a socket on my omen waist?
from your vault
wind totem
yes aoe only but most shit is aoe
tawny geyser
I mean they did fuck up our Kingsbane, so this is our kinda "here's the bone doggy"
balmy condor
what
ashen rover
elusiveness my beloved
lapis lantern
from your vault
ah !
balmy condor
how did they fuck up our kingsbane lmao
wind totem
elusiveness my beloved
I like cheat. It hides my mistakes.
tawny geyser
Well I mean it was stronger in DF, no? with the shadow dance changes etc...
slate crown
I like cheat. It hides my mistakes.
"hides" I see you and your debuff
ashen rover
I like cheat. It hides my mistakes.
cheat in raids, elusiveness in m+ 
balmy condor
bone spike was stronger in shadowlands
agile willow
In my raid they fucking watch for the cheat death debuff and make fun of me instantly.
daring hamlet
really scared for feint nerfs
feint off gcd and iron wire subturfuge changes - minigame enjoyer?
wind totem
cheat death is essentially a bonus cr
clear nexus
do you die in m+
vale lantern
In my raid they fucking watch for the cheat death debuff and make fun of me inst...
just say you are using your class utility
dusty zenith
bubbling wax no work on hero track dagger?
wind totem
do you die in m+
What do Americans say? I plead the fifth, right?
rose anchor
Hey, can someone help with a log review? What could I have done better? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/yFYGjknpvgcNXW8M#fight=22&type=damage-done&source=3
ashen rover
bubbling wax no work on hero track dagger?
look at the pins
balmy condor
!wax
prisma monolithBOT
Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:
- If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
- If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip
balmy condor
also a thing
dusty zenith
algari mana oil or whetstone then
balmy condor
whetsones are the best
dusty zenith
looking for cheap burner stuff for running mythics
spice surge
Ye idk im not a big fan of the feint change either
dusty zenith
what is feitn change?
daring hamlet
if your capped on gilded, you get runed from 9+ yeah?
spice surge
It still costs energy so its still gonna cost us dps, not sure why it needs to be off gcd
slate crown
What do Americans say? I plead the fifth, right?
Shut the fuck up friday
spice surge
And like whispyr said, it might be seen as too strong and get nerfed
wind totem
Shut the fuck up friday
I have no fucking idea what this means
balmy condor
if your capped on gilded, you get runed from 9+ yeah?
yes
balmy condor
It still costs energy so its still gonna cost us dps, not sure why it needs to b...
I mean should help sub though right
sub energy during dance is infinite
wind totem
weekly quest
cyan summit
is their a quest ?
can u tell me the name of the weekly quest pls
because i cant find it
balmy condor
I have no fucking idea what this means
you know wednesday adams? Jenna Ortega? It's like that but Friday
spice surge
sub energy during dance is infinite
Ye but it still feels odd
outer marten
Feint off gcd now? Thats nice
royal lantern
Ye but it still feels odd
i personaly think its to make feint more consistent with other deffensive abilitys
cus most of them are not on the gcd
wise gull
using feint during cds feels bad
proud pelican
Can I macro feint to kingsbane?
outer marten
Aye, and they shouldn’t be
royal lantern
Can i macro feint to feint?
slim pebble
Can i macro feint to feint?
I actually start every kingsbane window with feint
balmy condor
macro feint to shiv?
proud pelican
Just macro feint to tea and gg no energy loss
balmy condor
Just macro feint to tea and gg no energy loss
but I auto drink tea
royal lantern
I actually start every kingsbane window with feint
rookie mistake, kingsbane is not most of our dmg anymore
proud pelican
but I auto drink tea
round vapor
but I auto drink tea
What macro do you have it set to?
wise gull
i can't wait to never have tea up because im too adhd to not drop below 25 energy
runic hinge
rookie mistake, kingsbane is not most of our dmg anymore
Macro feint to envenom. Got it
proud pelican
What macro do you have it set to?
Feint
runic hinge
i can't wait to never have tea up because im too adhd to not drop below 25 energ...
That just means you’re using it efficiently
balmy condor
okay okay new solution, we macro feint to tea, tea to shiv, shiv goes into a cast sequence with kingsbane
russian nesting dolls
proud pelican
Holy smokes he’s cooking
dapper cradle
okay okay new solution, we macro feint to tea, tea to shiv, shiv goes into a cas...
I think you’d dc
proud pelican
Whispyr how do I get this cringe coup de grace icon away from my name?
void mesa
balmy condor
Whispyr how do I get this cringe coup de grace icon away from my name?
looks like outlaw-trickster so go to the outlaw channel pins at the bottom and uncheck it
wise gull
@balmy condor is the only feint change taking it off gcd?
balmy condor
then check a new one
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> is the only feint change taking it off gcd?
yes
wise gull
seems really strong
royal lantern
i can't wait to never have tea up because im too adhd to not drop below 25 energ...
i mean, i really dislike the tea change and think it should be a chose 1 node
but you still will always have a tea for the shiv that overlaps with KB, nothing changes there
its mostly the "in bettwen" shiv windows in m+ that are affected by it, and its just really minor overall
(should still be a chose 1node)
dapper cradle
In the .5 patch, would we wanna double envenom before KB?
With that new envenom stacking talent
proud pelican
I don’t even have it checked wot n tarnation
slim pebble
In the .5 patch, would we wanna double envenom before KB?
Feint - envenom - feint - envenom - KB
proud pelican
I guess I’m a trickster player now oh well bad rng
wise gull
i mean, i really dislike the tea change and think it should be a chose 1 node
...
hard agree. i'll have to see how it plays out
definitely just want the choice though
dapper cradle
Trickster sin pumps
royal lantern
nah, fatebound sub is big
wise gull
also can we remove the coup charge?
royal lantern
honestly just reduce our rotation to only feint
ah yes, Tomb of Sargeras
wise gull
holy shit its so cringe
slim pebble
nah, fatebound sub is big
I imported one of the builds from wowhead as fatestalker
wise gull
my personal favorite is charging into ansurek right before the nova goes off 
proud pelican
Hopefully my baby falls asleep soon so I can deplete some 10s
balmy condor
In the .5 patch, would we wanna double envenom before KB?
probably not
I would assume it's just same opener but you just have extra envenom benefits during shiv
like right now you spam envenom during shiv and waste a bunch of uptime
this is less waste during shiv
and otherwise it's the same
dapper cradle
and otherwise it's the same
got it, appreciate the reply 🙂
proud pelican
Does it stack kinda like ironfur in the new .5 patch?
proud pelican
Word
proud pelican
Hopefully after a few more weeks of 5 hour extended maintenance most of the bugs will be fixed
proud pelican
balmy condor
every time area52 crashes, a bug gets fixed
willow cloud
but how many bugs get added for each fix?
proud pelican
Oh nice maybe today it’ll crash during my key while they fix dawnthread
vale shore
whats wrong with dawnthread?
runic hinge
!dawnthread
prisma monolithBOT
Dawnthread has the same bug as Blue Silk Lining from Dragonflight where it fails to stack.
In order to fix it and trigger your second Dawnthread, take damage to drop under 80% health, then heal back up.
vast finch
I wonder do they have new rogue class designer? I heard previous one left
Some changes are such W
Like feint,snd
Maybe some cool reworks soon
iron vigil
Is crafting the everforged stabber better then dawnthread now?
proud pelican
!fuu
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Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
balmy condor
I wonder do they have new rogue class designer? I heard previous one left
No
They have a team of people
There is no “rogue designer”
Some perma online degenerates just decided to make up some shit about devs getting promoted or leaving or fired or whatever
With 0 evidence
vast finch
Ah,okay
balmy condor
Cause ya know, internet
royal lantern
source: trust me bro
ebon temple
do you guys save cds for silken court damage amp?
balmy condor
Yeah, their source was “dh and rogue didn’t get a lot of changes so the only person we can name drop must have left”
vast finch
But anyways I really like some of the ptr updates. Except cringe auto-tea
Maybe we are getting something more
balmy condor
Probably not
royal lantern
a friend of a guildmates cousin told me that the "mage dev" (single person ofc) actually hates mages and is a Warrior main that lost in PvP against them and thats why spellslinger gets a nerf
trust me, its real
balmy condor
It’s already a ton of changes for a 0.5 patch
balmy condor
a friend of a guildmates cousin told me that the "mage dev" (single person ofc) ...
Yes of course
silent stratus
in the whispyr guide it says to avoid crafting everforged, but it is the most popular embellishment item (per mythicstats). is it because people were all unlucky with dagger drop, ignored the guide, or some other reason I am not aware?
balmy condor
in the whispyr guide it says to avoid crafting everforged, but it is the most po...
Anyone who crafted a stiletto is an idiot
Plain and simple
vast finch
Like rogue is one of the least popular classes and we didn’t get any huge updates on start of df also the hero talents are kinda mid. So I wish we get something cool sooner or later. Like Maybe a rework
Like dks got one
bright turret
got a rework in DF
timber meadow
I don't remember him ever saying not to craft dagger. other crafts are listed as possibly higher prio was my interpretation but dagger always mentioned as a decent option
acoustic roost
And we popped off
stable cove
does dawnthread lining stack? thought it did but buff tooltip only says 750
silent stratus
from wowhead: If you're not getting any dagger drops, it's worth considering crafting Everforged Stabber Everforged Stabber to try and have SOMETHING in that slot
acoustic roost
!craft
prisma monolithBOT
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
silent stratus
why Rune-Branded Armbands andRune-Branded Waistband arent the most popular?
timber meadow
yeah, i dont interpet that as not recommending to craft it
vast finch
Btw if I crafted 636 dagger and almost did all my heroic pieces to 4/6 do I use myth crests on second craft or just upgrade gear to 6/6?
acoustic roost
Because mh weapon is the largest dps increase
bright turret
not everyone has a dagger for week 2, and you hit DPS walls almost immediately since the mythic raid scaling is wonky
silent stratus
what would you say is unlucky on dagger? is 619 regicide unlucky?
bright turret
not getting a mythic dagger in general since they drop off 2nd boss
royal lantern
reddit allready saying "the feint change will be a large dps increase for rogue and espacially outlaw"
bright turret
crafting dagger is probably the play if you aren't a mythic raider and already farming 10s for vault
tropic fox
Hows the non ironwire build in m+?
royal lantern
why the fuck would you do that
acoustic roost
Not worth dropping iron wire for
silent stratus
crafting dagger is probably the play if you aren't a mythic raider and already f...
because you are going to fill wrist/belt through +10s?
royal lantern
crafting dagger is probably the play if you aren't a mythic raider and already f...
ita a free weapon, thats good for everyone
like, nothing to do with mythic raiding or not lol
zinc frost
Why do people want to drop iron wire for a smidge of dmg?
bright turret
you're focusing a little too hard on a BIS list based on full clearing Mythic
a mythic weapon caps at +3 higher ilvls which is why its slightly better than a craft, but if you don't have easy access to them, then crafting is good
royal lantern
ascension is slightly better in raids
ascenion is weapon only
aka
if you wanna use it, you need a crafted weapon
balmy condor
nono I meant everforged stabber
Oh
Yeah
Most people crafted it
It’s a 636
Main hand ilvl good
silent stratus
Main hand ilvl good
how did wrist/belt sim more then? what profile was it used?
dense cove
any recommended 3rd crafts?
acoustic roost
It sims more at max level gear
dense cove
or just craft a piece you need
royal lantern
do you have a mythic weapon? if no, make a weapon
otherwhise you can use it to fill slots if you have the crests avaible i gues
dense cove
well i have a 619 crafted wep, just waiting to get the rest of my gilded crests to upgrade it
have crafted dagger and belt, i have a 606 neck i haven't been able to find. guess that's the play
royal lantern
or do the chad move: use them for Tmog
thorn fjord
@royal lantern hoping the agi dagger train keeps on riding and I get first mythic one tomorrow 🙏
quiet oar
do you have a mythic weapon? if no, make a weapon
Why Do i read this in an angry german voice
quiet oar
<@346293680883236864> hoping the agi dagger train keeps on riding and I get firs...
It did not for me
stable cove
am i doin something wrong if sometimes im just autoing 2-4 sec to pool energy back up and keeping envenom up
thorn fjord
It did not for me
Got two heroic ones first run
wind umbra
Are all the Rogue specs performing about the same at the moment for Raid/M+?
thorn fjord
@quiet oar How far are you guys in prog
wind umbra
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
thorn fjord
Yeah it looks like it
quiet oar
But as an advice
Put a countdown in decimate
You wont notice it
Otherwise
Except when you die through it
thorn fjord
Which Wa pack do you guys use
cunning needle
Are all the Rogue specs performing about the same at the moment for Raid/M+?
yesish
but theyre all pretty garbo
quiet oar
But im not talking about your own decimate
thorn fjord
I hsve northern sky
We’re all using causes
quiet oar
I mean decimate from. Others
thorn fjord
Ah
quiet oar
So many Times i stood behind the Boss and got Hit by decimate
Because you really dont notice it
stable sinew
cunning needle
if you are not progging hard then the spec you are best at will do the most dps
wind umbra
are you mythic raiding?
Nah, I usually stop at H
cunning needle
then play what you enjoy
normal mist
We just did a normal full run reclear for tiers and overall items for the less geared before going into heroic
midnight reef
Is there a lvling build for Fatebound or should i just do Shadowstalker?
wind umbra
then play what you enjoy
appreciate it
normal mist
There's a leveling build in wow head iirc
keen spruce
I enjoy parsing normal
So real for that. But I’ll also fite you
quiet oar
Royal
normal mist
So real for that. But I’ll also fite you
I'm yet to get a 100 tho
keen spruce
Parse LFR like a true monkey
quiet oar
normal mist
Hello tira 👋
keen spruce
Go in 5 stacked with giga dps into lfr
cunning needle
Parse LFR like a true monkey
no parse story mode
normal mist
Yeah ofc, did you already post it?
keen spruce
no parse story mode
Truuuuu
quiet oar
Yeah ofc, did you already post it?
Ye sec
normal mist
Tira x quake log review
chrome blaze
I just got a 2nd dawnthread embellishment, and now im only getting one of the dawnthread buffs. anyone else havet his bug or know what to do?
normal mist
I just got a 2nd dawnthread embellishment, and now im only getting one of the da...
!dawnthread
prisma monolithBOT
Dawnthread has the same bug as Blue Silk Lining from Dragonflight where it fails to stack.
In order to fix it and trigger your second Dawnthread, take damage to drop under 80% health, then heal back up.
woven valley
yo how do we use kingsbane nowerdays? i wanted to download a weakaura for it and it says it works different now? last time i played assa i was sure u had to pretea+shiv then use kingsbane with envenom being up and then time the 2nd shiv when the first is fading while having 100% uptime with envenom and obv snd. now we wanna shiv at the last seconds of kingsbane? by using the full duration of the shiv? is that correct?