assassination

[dull minnow]

Because, I'm new and needed a simple yes its worth it not ites not.

Its really not.

[tender bay]

Yo boys can you not cloak frontal from first boss NW ?

[trail locust]

i heard mandate is best now

[lethal arrow]

just post your gear dawg

[dull minnow]

Its called being new and not wanting to use 20+ Addons to just play a game

[trail locust]

how to press deathstalker

[eager tree]

so you'll just make other people do the work that addons can do for you

thats not selfish in the slightest

what does our time matter as long as its most convenient for you

[dull minnow]

You really blind by the statement

[fickle latch]

Can you now use bublingwax on OH ?

[dull minnow]

Most other games its just a simple yes or no if the set piece is worth early or not

[eager tree]

pin

[balmy condor]

yes take your set

[upper wraith]

damn I have sacbrood and mad queen in mine....

[fickle latch]

oh :/

[granite cipher]

is there a bug with garrote rn because i swear sometimes it doesn't give me a combo point

[dull minnow]

Literally the only answer I was looking for.

[eager tree]

could be parried

[granite cipher]

the training dummy can parry?

i didn't know that

[eager tree]

idk actually, were you attacking from the front?

[granite cipher]

behind

[eager tree]

then idk

[granite cipher]

maybe just lag

or something

[balmy condor]

I've never heard of garrote not giving cp idk

do you have a log

[daring gorge]

are you using the pvp dummies? 😄 i feel like i got the same issue when i was dpsing against the pvp dummies

[granite cipher]

it was pve

[little cipher]

!embelish

[granite cipher]

i don't have a log but if it hasn't happenedt o anyone else it was probably just lag

since dornogal is turbo lagging atm

on my realm

[chilly mist]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax (when it works) is roughly on par with whetstones and are free. Some caveats:

• MANY BUGS YEP
• Doesn't stack (only apply to one weapon)
• Sometimes just won't work in offhand (apply it to your left slot, whetstone on the right slot)
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip
• Some hitbox weirdness because it's an AoE effect and it won't actually hit adds, especially on larger bosses
• The quickest way to farm for wax is pickpocketing the kobolds in front of darkflame cleft
• If you have no idea what any of this is, you need to start the questline with ""Brax's Brass Knuckles"", then walk into the inn and talk to the vent to start ""Go Take Candle"". Once you complete the short questline, you can pickpocket wax from the kobolds"

[chilly mist]

i suddenly cant apply it

[balmy condor]

pins

[chilly mist]

"weapon too high level"

[balmy condor]

should update the command I guess

[granite cipher]

wax in timewalking was so funny

[spice surge]

Could you make it usable in the other channels too

[balmy condor]

sure

but it would stomp on the other !wax commands

[forest acorn]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[spice surge]

Ye but those are redundant now too

[balmy condor]

true

[harsh cliff]

75 wax i can't use ty blizz

[eager tree]

feels like a bug, surely blizz wouldnt design a questline and consumable purely for rogues then not let it work

[chilly mist]

its not even that strong right?

[spice surge]

I'd assume its intended that they dont want us to pickpocket and farm it

For high end stuff

Just for leveling

[eager tree]

why design it to be pickpocketed then not let us pickpocket it?

[chilly mist]

honestly i didnt mind it

ashame

[eager tree]

maybe, just makes no sense

[spice spire]

You can absolutely pickpocket it

[buoyant schooner]

is the Treacherous Transmitter good for us?

[lethal arrow]

they hate the idea of us saving money on oils

[balmy condor]

!update

[prisma monolith]

Updated.

[balmy condor]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[eager tree]

i know you can, ive farmed dozens of it. i meant why would they let us get it but not use it

[balmy condor]

!update

[prisma monolith]

Updated.

[rocky notch]

they couldn't fix the dying bug so they just disabled it

[serene trench]

great

[timber gate]

any of the renowns give like a rune or smth like augement rune last expansion or they r all cosmetic?

[spice surge]

Rune has always been last tier of an expansion

[timber gate]

so nth now

dont need to farm renown do we.

[spice surge]

Theres no real player power to farm renowns no

[spice spire]

Crests

[vital haven]

man

why they gotta do that to the wax

[honest needle]

is this delve trinket good. Im trying to decide if i take trinket or dagger https://gyazo.com/0233a5c3f9e067f4f75988abf65cada9

[vital haven]

we got some cool rogue shit that only rogues can get

gone

[worn badger]

if you did it fast enough early enough there was a champion boot from dornogal reknown but that was it

[arctic socket]

trinket knife strong

craft a 619 dagger wep

[honest needle]

i have 619 dagger crafted should i take the 616 dagger for offhand ?

[arctic socket]

what did you sim say?

[limber lion]

No

[novel veldt]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[honest needle]

does offhand dagger make a big difference in dmg ?

[arctic socket]

i would def take knife

[limber lion]

No

[honest needle]

Im simming now

[arctic socket]

if you already have a 619 mh

[limber lion]

I can already tell you that it will most likely take something else

Offhand is the last thing to upgrade

Maybe around the same value as something like bracers

[honest needle]

ok is the knife trinket good for m+ and raid

[weary spear]

anyone know if treacherous transmitter is that much of a dps buff to be worth the annoyance ?

[arctic socket]

ye

[weary spear]

heroic track

[honest needle]

i still only have hands and helm tier i have 1 charge so i still only have 2 set which sucks

catalyst will give me 3 set so im still screwed i been trying to get 4 set i have bad luck

[vocal minnow]

Set sucks anyway

No difference

[honest needle]

ok so that knife trinket is top trinket for raid and m+ for a while is the other trinekts much better

[vocal minnow]

I wouldn't waste charges on heroic gear anyway. (If you're playing in the range that reliably gets mythic track stuff)

[vocal minnow]

Bro just sim and take what's best

[honest needle]

ya i did

says trinket

we still sim as dungeon slice right ?

[twin hull]

Should I take 623 myth track sacbrood...im using 619 knife and 619 skardyns

[late surge]

For m+ yeah

[honest needle]

whats best way to sim for raid

[vocal minnow]

......

Bro

[late surge]

Patchwerk 5 min probably 👍🏼

[vast finch]

wax gone?

[honest needle]

ya i kno that im asking for like cleave raid bosses

theres alot of add fights in raid

[late surge]

You go ST and spec spatter

Same gear

[honest needle]

ok ty

[solemn oracle]

am I the only one having issues with wax?

or nah

[honest needle]

when u spatter in raid do u still put garrote and ruptiure on adds ?

or do u spatter off boss n thats it

they die pretty fast

[worn badger]

wax broken on high ilvl weapons

[slate crown]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[slate crown]

[runic hinge]

Nice

[late surge]

Depends on situation

[runic hinge]

Can’t wait to spam that

[trail jungle]

Does anyone have a good Deathmark macro that will work with Mad Queen's Mandate?

[late surge]

Prob never garrote tho

[runic hinge]

Don’t think you wanna cast that in your dm window

[marble hemlock]

@spice surge https://i.imgur.com/j00zOcN.jpeg

[violet stone]

anyone's bubbling wax not applying? saying target is too high level

[wanton mortar]

what are you guys crafting this week?

[limber lion]

Yes it's bugged

Pins and

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[violet stone]

rgr ty

[trail jungle]

I was thinking of casting right before it. Think it's better just not linked at all?

[worn badger]

wish there was a way to just make the pins pop up when logging into the channel for the first time each day

[gleaming geyser]

im holding spark for now tbh; I get more damage using crests to upgrade trinkets and tier than a 636 weapon. Might end up crafting a ring or a neck at 619 using the free queen quest crest.

[dusty crescent]

I'm a conpletionist

[kindred oriole]

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[spice surge]

[barren river]

anyone else experiencing not being able to use bubbling wax anymore? it says the level of the target is too high. Am I missing something?

[keen spruce]

Pins

Commands

[spice surge]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[barren river]

new rogue bug i wasnt aware of, thanks a bunch

hard to keep track nowadays

[keen spruce]

Eleem just keep typing it every couple of seconds so people don’t miss it

[spice surge]

Its from an hour ago

So its not surprising people dont know

[barren river]

reequipping is also not working for me

[keen spruce]

No they must know everything immediately or they get called a shittor

[spice surge]

Well ye, thats if you have it applied

But like it says

You cant apply it on 610 or higher weapons

[barren river]

oh shit

[proud yacht]

Anyone know what changed with our sims today? Setting SimC version to Latest is simming about 8k lower than Nightly using VV but non VV builds seem unaffected. Should I ever even use Latest?

[spice surge]

We added the deathmark not being able to be reduced below 3 when darkest night is up bug to simc effectively

[pulsar basin]

is there a general item upgrade order? or is that something we can sim

[proud yacht]

Ah that would make sense. Thanks for the response.

[pulsar basin]

wep > trink > etc ?

[inland flare]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[keen spruce]

Not really but rare trinkets and weapons will likely be most important

Even when a wep might be more dps, a rare trinket might be harder to find later so could be a better pickup

Stuff like that

[balmy condor]

should always use latest btw

like no reason not to

[keen spruce]

Nostalgia?

[sudden brook]

Why is the mythic tier piece in my vault the chest

[main forge]

Does anyone have an audio que weakaura for kingsbane 8sec left? Playing with one shiv charge has me mistiming it

[keen spruce]

I mean as long as you’re not early

It’s precision is not that important

I could make one this weekend when I get home but I’d just look at the KB duration on WA weakaura pack you have and shiv at like 7s or something

[shy pecan]

Yeah, just put in the conditions if the remaining duration <= 8, play sound.

[main forge]

For sure was just thinking an audio cue may help remember the timing
I may dig into weakaura later I'm just not that great making them

[runic hinge]

I have that but it’s my tea sound from DF so now I’m hitting both like I’m Pavlov’s dog

[normal mist]

damn.

The flex

[rugged venture]

IM cumming

[raven egret]

oh babe

[crude anvil]

Im just

[pliant remnant]

[crude anvil]

oof

[normal mist]

You're just FUCK YEAH

[crude anvil]

40k dps upgrade from what I had

[keen spruce]

[crude anvil]

lmao

[normal mist]

Happy for you brother @crude anvil

[marble idol]

player here that just returned to retail, been playing some mythic+ but I seem to hugely struggle with mythic+, packs tend to get instapulled one after another which leaves me without the opportunity to stealth causing me to lose huge rupture/garrote damage

[inland flare]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[marble idol]

how do I fix this?

[rugged venture]

lol

you dont

[normal mist]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote is roughly 10-12% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon
• While Without a Trace can allow for better vanish timings, the difference in damage provided is at most replacing a non-stealth opener with a stealth opener (you aren't necessarily getting "added" casts, just "better" casts)
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[rugged venture]

u can ask nicely

[bright nova]

I'm trying to track Lingering Darkness hero talent but I cant see a buff aura anywhere - is it working correctly? or am i just misunderstanding it

[rugged venture]

but 90% of the time theyll tell you to kys, play diff class

[crude anvil]

you cry then vanish and keep going

[inland flare]

wax is gone? item lvl is too high? ;d

[rugged venture]

or theyre from ragnaros and wont udnerstand a word your saying

[normal mist]

bug

[inland flare]

oh

[rugged venture]

or they have monitor turned off

[raven egret]

Pray that its a bug, my wallet can't take it otherwise

[spice surge]

Its after deathmark, your 2 minute cooldown

But also, its kinda redundant to track and theres no real value in seeing if its up or not

[hushed elbow]

yo did they get patch bubbling wax???

[keen spruce]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[bright nova]

Not me thinking deathstalkers mark

[runic hinge]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[west cove]

has anyone had a bug that stops bubbling wax applying to a weapon, errors says item too high..

[runic hinge]

Imma fucking spam that every minute

[raven egret]

o7

[keen spruce]

Yo why tf did Tony get a thumbs up

[soft void]

So in AOE where you can't restealth do you only garrote main target and just tag 4-5 others with rupture?

[lyric lily]

Can someone explain how Echoing Reprimand works? I can't seem to wrap my head around it

[keen spruce]

And not me

This is racist

[spice surge]

If you hit a blue cp and use a finisher it counts as 7

[normal mist]

land on blue CP, finish

[raven egret]

o7

[lyric lily]

@spice surge that's what I thought but it didn't seem to work with Slice and Dice

[spice surge]

Because slice and dice is not a damaging finisher

[rugged venture]

shouldnt be usign blue cpo on S&D

[lyric lily]

Ahh

[spice surge]

But also, you dont want to use it on slice anyway

Slice you want to use at as few cp as possible

[timber meadow]

is the matery gained from the affix affected by dr?

[tepid lichen]

what makes this build easy mode ?

[runic hinge]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[runic hinge]

Don’t have to track dsm

Plays just like DF assa

Can macro cold blood

[tepid lichen]

didn't realize dsm in raid was hard to track

[runic hinge]

You can lose it on intermissions and other shit so it can be a pain

[uncut tiger]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[crystal helm]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[tepid lichen]

i suppose so

[runic hinge]

I mean I played it all day in my raid but some people might not like building to 7 or other things that are different than what we were doing

[thick juniper]

when do you guys like to use mandate? little after the opener?

[tepid lichen]

how much behind dsm is it?

[spice spire]

Depends on your other trinket tbh

[thick juniper]

At the moment, its fangs

[runic hinge]

Depends on gear

[spice spire]

Just launch before CDs then

[thick juniper]

ok, ty

[static glacier]

Low-key if we play without SS / imp gar I think holding ambush for marks is the fix, then again idk why blizzard make us jump through hoops, is playing around clear the witness and darkest night not enough?

[runic hinge]

Some people have a lot more crit and stuff and fb is pretty much the same I ended up with a lot of haste and no crit which makes DS a lot better

[static glacier]

I simmed higher and played FB for all of hc week except like three bosses

[runic hinge]

Yeah I’m playing VV and just holding vanish in case I fuck up

[static glacier]

I’m DS on brood bc fb doesn’t compete

[runic hinge]

Which was only maybe twice

[tepid lichen]

what do u macro with CB?

[normal mist]

envenom

[static glacier]

Env

[tepid lichen]

hm ok

it doesnt take reprimand that sounds nice

[static glacier]

Ngl sin feels very off if your pure st tuning isn’t good

[sly idol]

hey all, i am looking for highliting in m+ prio targets. Does smb know if smb did a plater coloring specific for rogues? I have currently a profile that highlights casters which is useful..

[tepid lichen]

ive only played it in M+ so far but will prolly have to play it for raid too

[runic hinge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[hollow berry]

!delves

[runic hinge]

Couple in there that are good

[hollow berry]

!delve

[prisma monolith]

Soloing Delves is really hard currently. Some solutions:

• Do them with a tank+healer in a 3 man. This seems to be lenient on scaling
• Go outlaw/subtlety with trickster, take the 1 hour tricks of the trade talent, cast tricks on brann (I personally put brann on my focus and use /cast [@focus] Tricks of the Trade)
• For objective/pickup object based delves, you can sap/aoe blind, pick up the item, then vanish. This is slow but will get the job done most of the time
• Put Netflix on your second monitor or something while you wait for your 2min cooldowns to come back up so you can pull another 3 pack of mobs, 2 of which are sapped/blinded, you’re in for a long delve

[sly idol]

thank you! will take a look 👍 👍

[oak pollen]

How do you guys sim for m+?

[limber lion]

Dslice, ST, 1min 5T, 30s 8T, 2min 2T

And then look at all results

[oak pollen]

Tyvm!

❤️

[limber lion]

and see what does what

and how they compare

But honestly it doesn't matter, the trinket recommendations are still the same in mythic+

and everything else

[oak pollen]

actually

im thinking of what to pick on the chest

my gear is trash

may i post the prints?

[limber lion]

I mean your sim will tell you what to do

better than we can

[runic hinge]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[oak pollen]

cuz i got a tier gloves, but its 593 ilvl

[woven shore]

I want to be home nooooowww

[oak pollen]

im not getting the 2pc with that, but idk if it'll be better

[woven shore]

Open my vaaaaault

[runic hinge]

In top gear there’s options to convert vault pieces to tier and upgrade them with crests and stones. You can sim all that

[timid marsh]

Why does this WA track deaths stalker mark but when it actually should be tracked in plater ?

[oak pollen]

kk im gonna sim this, tyvm

[woven shore]

Wym

[kindred abyss]

is this week our 3rd spark?

[woven shore]

Platet shows the debuff

[timid marsh]

Mark is targetbased? And not character buff

[runic hinge]

Yea

[woven shore]

Yes

[woven shore]

Yes target based

[stoic canopy]

is this the thread where I can ask for help?

[woven shore]

Its not a buff

DN is a buff

[thick juniper]

what do we do with 3rd spark? upgrade lowest slot?

[woven shore]

Darkest night

[young flicker]

So, if you're doing raid & M+ as sin, and maybe going to be playing sub...Is it better to do the authority of Radiant Power on both daggers? or Should you go with Authority of the Depths?

[limber lion]

Ye

[stoic canopy]

ok
what on earth am i doing wrong.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BPGJt2jzMC7ncTmw#fight=5&type=damage-done

[limber lion]

Depths if you're balling

[stoic canopy]

i'm at 10% ilvl performance?!

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-elmo-pyro-burn-it-down-ashes-gif-5632946

[thorn crater]

what does balling mean?

[runic hinge]

Hey it’s my your friend

[thick juniper]

balling = rich

[limber lion]

eyo??????????????????

[hollow talon]

whats the best missive stats to use for MH craft if i also want to play sub sometimes in raid

[thorn crater]

so depths is better?

[woven shore]

Flexing detected

[arctic socket]

[woven shore]

Wtf is that

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[limber lion]

First of all, generally the faster you kill the boss, the better. In a raid setting where everyone sucks, your parse is also gonna take a big hit

Secondly

@spice spire

[arctic socket]

you're pressing fok with double vv that's a big no no

you messed up your opener very bad

[woven shore]

Idk what your problem is

Thats how the opener should be

[shy pecan]

Don’t you owe me like a few million gold?

[woven shore]

[thorn crater]

why is SND happening so late?

[spark pulsar]

hi, did was stopped working? Im getting target level too high it was working couple of hours ago

[slate crown]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[arctic socket]

[spark pulsar]

thx

[woven shore]

[stoic canopy]

Cast Ambush to apply Deathstalker's Mark
Cast Garrote
Cast Mutilate
Cast Rupture
Cast Slice and Dice with the Combo Points Combo Points from Serrated Bone Spike
Cast Echoing Reprimand
Cast Fan of Knives to consume Clear the Witnesses

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

[thorn fjord]

huge

[arctic socket]

he's not doing the rotation properly so he's asking for help

[stoic canopy]

double vv?

[woven shore]

What the fuck

I hate that man

[normal mist]

Nice belt!!!!

[spice spire]

Vicious venom

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/h3h3-creed-creed-higher-h3creed-tiktok-gif-22604233

[arctic socket]

vicious venoms

[stoic canopy]

trying to follow the wowhead guide. should it be sooner?

[spice spire]

Opp

[stoic canopy]

ahh ty

[thorn crater]

check what thresh said

[arctic socket]

you arent following the wowhead guide

[thorn crater]

usually need to envenom there before DM

unless im mistaken

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

• For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[keen spruce]

I like new pfp @arctic socket

Askin the real questions

[spice spire]

Can I get a thread

[thorn crater]

btw whats the envenom uptime supposed to be?

[spice spire]

Uh

[thorn crater]

im at 85% is that low?

[spice spire]

@slate crown

[woven shore]

Ambush
Garrot
Rapture
SnD
ER
Mutilate = ER procc or 5+ cp
Envenom
Deathsmark
Shiv
KINGSBANE
Thistle Tea+ pot+ Race buff+ trinket

[spice spire]

That’s fine

[keen spruce]

80-90%

[spice spire]

You guys are missing like

Major macro shit btw

[candid nacelle]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[arctic socket]

his uptime is 63%

[spice spire]

Yeah and look at his bleeds

Which means he can’t produce energy

To create the envenom

Like

?

[woven shore]

[spice spire]

Hyper fixating envenom uptime without seeing a cause is ??

[slate crown]

Analyze Thread Review

[stoic canopy]

ok so more like this then

[arctic socket]

brotha i didn;t even click the buff after i saw how he oepned

[keen spruce]

So based quakey poo

[light harness]

Guys, can you apply Bubbling Wax? I can't seem to be able to use it after update

[keen spruce]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[frail geyser]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[woven shore]

Bro

Walk to a Training dummy
Search on WWW

assassination Rogue Guide Wowhead (whispyr)

Look for Raid Single target Rotation

Scroll down

It shows everything perfectly

And then train that rotation on the dummy until you can press it blindfolded

After that its just gaining experience from gameplay

( dont forget to copy the talent tree for AOE (Probably under m+ talents) and the single target)

[cunning cloak]

so can wax not be applied to heroic weapons? trying to apply but says item lvl too high?

[sturdy stirrup]

take this

[keen spruce]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[cunning cloak]

ah

[stoic canopy]

thanks guys

[spice spire]

[orchid cedar]

damn why do we suck so hard in the frist boss in Mythic?

[spice spire]

Personally

[earnest remnant]

cuz we arent fury warriors

[spice spire]

I still haven’t figured timings out for first boss

[earnest remnant]

spinning on adds in the intermissions

[orchid cedar]

doing even worse than hunters?

BM

[limber lion]

Padders

[spice spire]

Bro my prot warrior just saves demolish for it

[royal lantern]

im going full ST cus i cant even touch them lol

[orchid cedar]

something must not be working as intended

[spice spire]

Filthy ladders

[chilly tangle]

radiant power or depths for m+?? main hand radiant of depth?

[spice spire]

Radiant power for m+

[runic hinge]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[spice spire]

Bruh

[keen spruce]

I think Tony set an alarm

[chilly tangle]

thx ❤️

[shy pecan]

Damn ladders

[willow cloud]

Dude I could not believe how bad the timings were here. If you figure it out let me know rofl.

[bright turret]

I'm also confused by the clear the witnesses thing. I see some guides say fok, and other guides/sim don't

[royal lantern]

if you have viceous venoms skilled, you dont use it

otherwhise you use it

[willow cloud]

99 parses in heroic, and I 17 parses mythic because the timings are so so bad

[bright turret]

Ahhhh I see where I got confused. The Wowhead sin build has VV for ST, but the rotation part has VV turned off by default

bit of a silly oversight

[keen spruce]

The timings are the same for everyone

[raven egret]

Timings: Send it

like 17 parse is not about timings brother XD

[vale marten]

guys is bubbling wax bugged, it says for me target is too high ilvl

[raven egret]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[spice spire]

Need a !wax leaderboard fr

[hasty gate]

!macro

[royal lantern]

didnt do the fight yet, but ye

like, if in doubt, just send cds if they wont go fully wasted lol

on sunday i can hopefully show some bigtime tryan assa mythic numbers

[keen spruce]

You always just send it until you hit a part where you’re like “damn shouldnt have sent it a second ago”

[royal lantern]

(its blue)

[junior panther]

hello was curious if i should get 4 set or Sureki Zealots insignia at 626

[misty holly]

Is the Fury of the Stormrook set any good? It looks like you can activate the set bonus and still get tier set too. Crafted items are only 3 ilevel behind max mythic, right?

[royal lantern]

sim it

[junior panther]

i am

[keen spruce]

And?

[junior panther]

its at 81%

[keen spruce]

Oh

[royal lantern]

i say it that way

you have 2 catalyst charges now, so 4 set should not be a problem at all

[keen spruce]

Is zealots like a good trinket?

[earnest remnant]

singular focus kinda going hard on egg boss ngl

[royal lantern]

leme gues, CT adds once and then back to full ST?

[earnest remnant]

yep

or well fok into env

[royal lantern]

thought the same from watching the wf streams tbh

[earnest remnant]

i only rupture big spiders on the triple sets

[royal lantern]

like, you not do big dmg on adds, might aswell use it for funneling

[raven egret]

I dont even use CT on ovinax

spatter does all the work needed

[haughty flicker]

tell people to keep spawning parasites for funnel

[lament stump]

any1 got a plater thats whispyrs but it will show CT

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[lament stump]

whispyrs isnt showing CT on enemies idk y

[junior panther]

it says 4 set is bettter but should i just farm a heroic piece and catalize it then?

[candid nacelle]

@limber lion i really dont get it to work...i hear "front" "cc""jump" but no "interrup"

[junior panther]

and go with neck

[keen spruce]

Yeah probably

Getting 4pc pretty easy now

[acoustic roost]

Go to buff blacklist and remove it from the list

[junior panther]

o7 ty shmeepy

[earnest remnant]

thata parasite dmg

[royal lantern]

whisp doesnt show CT cus you dont need to track CT on individual enemys

Like, when CT runs out on your current target, its the same on everything else

[haughty flicker]

think he has it that way bc he just tracks ct on his wa

[earnest remnant]

CT gives you quite alot of Singular focus dam

[acoustic roost]

He also has a thing where the plater border turns red when ct is active

[subtle tundra]

im a parasite

grarghgh

[bright turret]

Real question is does splatter get nerfed, or do devs finally realize bosses with 50 mobs is bad for balance and our FPS

[subtle tundra]

its 1 boss, man

[bright turret]

buddy

[subtle tundra]

and first week

[bright turret]

they deleted sub for an entire xpac over 1 boss in BFA

[subtle tundra]

buddy, assa is not op on that fight

if assa is op what are dks and warriors

and you cant compare sub funnel to some spatter

[earnest remnant]

its top mid

id say

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/buddy-gif-1355133136296934405

[spice surge]

You scoffed at me saying CT was good for boss dps yet here you are playing it

[raven egret]

Aggressively mid, I like to say

[earnest remnant]

okay ish add dam + good boss dam

[earnest remnant]

well i dont think its better for boss dmg what so ever

just go full ST with spatter

next week

tbh

or if you have a decent aoe comp going

[keen spruce]

If u only count the dks and warriors once then it’s high mid

[spice surge]

Ye maybe after reset

[earnest remnant]

like if you actually have a good comp for the boss

you have 0 reason to play CT imo

[raven egret]

i havnt felt the need to go CT in any raid fights so far

[timber meadow]

do we get a half spark this week?

[spice surge]

You get half a spark every week

So yes

[timber meadow]

and cata every week?

[spice surge]

No

Every other

[hexed niche]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[hexed niche]

Is this new? I could use it 2 hours ago

[spice surge]

Yes

[hexed niche]

sadge

[keen spruce]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[urban mantle]

What is the best simc method to see the best DPS for Hight M+ keys? patchwerk 5 bosses, hectic cleave or dungeon slice?

[balmy condor]

dungeonslice is generally recommended

but dungeonslice is a synthetic situation

[hollow talon]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[balmy condor]

so it's used as a generic comparison, you can't use it to compare to specific dungeons for example

[spice spire]

[urban mantle]

Got it. But is still better to see what items are better to use? regardless the DPS numbers

[soft shale]

yea that is the main purpose

[soft shale]

[willow cloud]

Wait till you do the fight. The 17 was likely from being on second soak, which prevented all but 2 2 minute timers from being used as they came up. There were also only 400 other sin logs then.

There is a reason sim is dead last in current public logs on that fight

[blazing jewel]

Padder

[earnest remnant]

i was top on boss

leave me alone

[balmy condor]

yep

[coral stratus]

has the ambush darkest night bug been fixed yet

[balmy condor]

neigh

[blazing jewel]

🍳

[spice spire]

You’ve never topped a thing in ur life

[earnest remnant]

yeh i have

your dad

bud

[keen spruce]

Jealous of a ghuun wannabe

Quake too fast

[spice spire]

Jokes on u pal I topped ur pops and ur grand dad buddy

Get woke

[earnest remnant]

my dad is taller than your dad

get un-woke

[balmy condor]

Jokes on you, your mom topped me

[spice spire]

Probably? Dad is only like 6’2

[spice spire]

Honestly I believe it

[keen spruce]

Wouldn’t topping a taller dad be more of an accomplishment?

[earnest remnant]

his mum gave me that "HAWK TUAH"

ya get me

[keen spruce]

Like climbing a higher mountain

[spice spire]

She dropped your iq by 100 points?

[earnest remnant]

SPIT ON THAT THANG

[split willow]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[spice spire]

Guess my point is true

[split willow]

shit

[earnest remnant]

u on some real hater type shi

[keen spruce]

Quake has a dry thang

[spice spire]

Okay and

[earnest remnant]

not very locked in of you

[spice spire]

Yeah because ur mom sucked out all my bodily fluids

All of them

[craggy dagger]

If I sim tells me to put 2x HASTE/Crit gems in to my neck I should listen to it? 😄 ( I have 5% haste)

[runic hinge]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[spice spire]

(It actually feels way worse since you showed a video of your mom and she seems like a nice lady)

[spice spire]

Yes

[blazing jewel]

Is this joke just now a thing in colour

[earnest remnant]

if she was a nice lady wouldnt it feel better if she sucked you dry?

[slate crown]

[spice spire]

Nah because then she’d have to deal with my dog ass

[keen spruce]

[earnest remnant]

yes

[arctic socket]

[spice spire]

And no one wants that

[earnest remnant]

very much is

[blazing jewel]

[spice spire]

Bro let it die

[keen spruce]

Oh I thought stealthi was being ironic

[spice spire]

This happened a mile from where I am rn

[earnest remnant]

its me and 3 others just being annoying

[spice spire]

Like

[blazing jewel]

@indigo ether need you to flame this raccoon guy

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

5 months ago

[keen spruce]

It stopped being funny like 4 months and 3 weeks ago

[arctic socket]

@keen spruce where the hoes at

[spice spire]

He’s literally right there

[earnest remnant]

to me it was funny when i said it on voice comms 1 hour ago

[spice spire]

To me ur cute as fuck

[keen spruce]

I’m in Mexico rn

[spice spire]

Get woke part 2 pal

[keen spruce]

[arctic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/sprawsm-hello-where-is-channel-gif-24745443

[keen spruce]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[arctic socket]

Didn’t see that line at the top

[spice spire]

It’s here #pvp

Have a blast 🙂

[arctic socket]

[arctic socket]

Imma have a blast alright

[spice spire]

Dog?

[blazing jewel]

@spice spire asking for a friend can we have a blast

[spice spire]

What kinda blast you talking

Like Baja blast?

[blazing jewel]

[earnest remnant]

baja

[arctic socket]

Wouldn’t you wanna see

[spice spire]

From experience I’m going to say to you specifically, no.

[earnest remnant]

i cant sleep

im to anxious

[spice spire]

For what

[slate crown]

same

[earnest remnant]

time to run 10miles i guess

[arctic socket]

[earnest remnant]

at 12pm

[spice spire]

I’m a hater, TO. Sorry big dog

You don’t deserve this

[spice spire]

Yum

Fuck mobile

It’s 12 am you baboon

PM is noon

[earnest remnant]

mb

[proud yacht]

can anyone link a CTW tracker WA?

[spice spire]

Just do 24 hour time like everyone else

[arctic socket]

Well, just tested positive for Covid, upsides I don’t have to go to work for the next two days, downside is I now need to come up with 2 grand for medicine, love Murica insurance

[keen spruce]

Why be anxious when you can simply embrace the chaos of existence and fall into the existential void of melancholy and dissonance?

[spice spire]

@slate crown do you have one?

[keen spruce]

[earnest remnant]

cuz this typa chaos i dont want

[slate crown]

I don't have a standalone

It's a buff on your character

[spice spire]

Ahh

[slate crown]

that doesn't need a standalone wago page

That said, there are other conditions to casting it

[spice spire]

[keen spruce]

[slate crown]

My pack includes one which checks talents and buffs and such

[spice spire]

Sorry to hear that dog. American healthcare is rough “sent from American healthcare institution”

[slate crown]

ok fine

[ebon geyser]

what is the best hero talents for assa right now? for M plus

[keen spruce]

Wut medicine

Just rawdog that recovery

[arctic socket]

Paxlovid or some shit

[keen spruce]

With some cough drops and ramen

[arctic socket]

Idk how it’s spelt

[arctic socket]

[spice spire]

Ur state didn’t expand either get woke pal

[golden kettle]

any decent plater mods for garrote/rupture tracking?

[severe oyster]

Does Scroll of Momentum sim itself with sprint taken into account?

[slate crown]

https://wago.io/e-0PKZB3K Here's the one in my pack extracted out to standalone. Have to add a gif

[spice spire]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[arctic socket]

No Ty

[spice surge]

It does on outlaw, not on the other specs though afaik

[spice spire]

Goat shit

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-tongue-gif-26615227

[arctic socket]

You’re so real for that

[severe oyster]

It's simming higher than almost every other trinket for me at same item level lol

[arctic socket]

I could like give you a firm handshake for that

[spice surge]

Well its a decent trinket because they buffed it by a lot

But you cant get it at max ilvl

[golden kettle]

ty

[slate crown]

I'm so bad and lazy with doing keys I got a skardyn's and spymaster's on vet track in vault... and I got the avoidance cloak hero track I don't know what I want to take

I want out of the Serum prison

[keen spruce]

Don’t waste vault on veteran track

And do more keys

[abstract parrot]

Hello, a question.
I see the average of my poisons and their average in the logs is much lower than other people I'm comparing and I'd like to know what I'm doing wrong.

With how many combo points is it okay to throw the poison? 6/7?
Should I wait those seconds for the ability to poison more times with the weapon to wear off and when there's little left I throw another poison?

Thanks

[spice spire]

@slate crown I’m going to add you and bring you to terrorist keys

[slate crown]

I was too busy burning the AH down

[spice spire]

Needed dps a few times this week

[keen spruce]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[slate crown]

[runic hinge]

Cloak

[keen spruce]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

• For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[runic hinge]

Very rare. Might never see it again

[severe oyster]

Alright Ritual Knife ilvl for ilvl at 619 out sims it.

[slate crown]

yeah I was thinking that

[spice spire]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

• For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[runic hinge]

I’ll go after 2 am

[spice spire]

Bro

I wake up at 6

I’m not awake that late

[ancient relic]

Thoughts on heroic very rare sikran neck as opposed to myth track spyglass?

[spice spire]

Except during weekend

[runic hinge]

lol I work 5 pm to 1:30. Unlucky

[spice spire]

Sim it

[runic hinge]

I am a delve doer at that hour

[spice spire]

Both good pieces

[abstract parrot]

But with how many combo points is it more profitable to use Envenom?

[spice surge]

5+ for finishers

[abstract parrot]

thx

[waxen oyster]

the worst part is having dps dks

who cant play blood

[abstract parrot]

+5 cp use envenom ok good.

Thank u @spice surge

[honest needle]

let me ask i was asking before should i take that knife trinket. or should i take the 616 shoulders i can convert to tier and it will give me 3 set cause i still need tier

[spice spire]

It’s a sim.
Knife is good - but knife can fuck w ur parsing if it procs at a bad time

[ancient relic]

clear your raids first see if you get a tier drop

[cobalt sphinx]

Buy shoulders on the auction house

Catalyst those

Solved

[spice spire]

So I’m always gonna say “be wary of knife”

[cobalt sphinx]

Cloak the knife debuff if you get it on cooldowns

Solved

[waxen oyster]

wait can you?

[cobalt sphinx]

Affirmative

[honest needle]

waste cata charge on a champion piece not sure thats worth it

[waxen oyster]

[waxen oyster]

Wait cant you dwarf it

then

[spice spire]

Yes you very much can

Uh what does dwarf say

[waxen oyster]

dwarf stonk 📈

magic curses

bleeds

[spice spire]

You should haven’t seen

But Ik cloaking is

[honest needle]

but i alrdy used a cata charge so i only have 1 charge left so if i take the chest from vault instead of knife it will give me 3set

[spice spire]

I would rather just

Not knife 🙂

[waxen oyster]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=20594/stoneform

[honest needle]

so id have to get lucky from next week vault or raid

[waxen oyster]

get the omni token

[cobalt sphinx]

Buy hero shoulders on the AH bro i gave you the solution

[onyx crane]

so wax is broken?

[cobalt sphinx]

Pick some flowers

[honest needle]

how much is hero shoulders

[waxen oyster]

Yeah blizz trolling you poors

[honest needle]

prolly way to much gold

[waxen oyster]

no more wax for now

[spare spoke]

im not trying to get into the wax leaderboard but im so mad they want us to spend all this fucking gold on a useless 200 agi weapon oil

[split willow]

I upgraded and now I can’t use the 100 wax I farmed

[slate crown]

!wax yes

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[waxen oyster]

Not having raid consumes supplied by guild

[honest needle]

is algari oil still godo to use for m+

the other stuff 2 expensive

[slate crown]

yes

Oil is fine

[unreal cove]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[ivory kernel]

How much of a dps % increase is gaining 4 piece bonus alone

[lethal arrow]

hmm wonder what i take

[waxen oyster]

Be like me

[steel jay]

from 2p or 0p

[waxen oyster]

dont use any weapon consumables

[spice spire]

Tier

[ivory kernel]

2p to 4p

[waxen oyster]

on any key below a 10

[spice spire]

1.9ish

[cobalt sphinx]

300k last i checked, probably dropping hard after raid because of the reset

[waxen oyster]

cheap

[spice spire]

It’s like 2.4ish from 0>4

[waxen oyster]

[steel jay]

https://i.imgur.com/bz1cJ7J.png

the highlighted is assa

[spice spire]

Even better 🙂

[waxen oyster]

Yes assa tier sucks

next question

[spice spire]

Is wax working?!

[keen spruce]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[spice spire]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[spice spire]

Fuck

[waxen oyster]

Is rogue out of F tier

[keen spruce]

Depends

[spice spire]

[flat kindle]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[keen spruce]

If you ask anyone that’s not a rogue

We’re s+++

[waxen oyster]

M+ players dont count

neither do pvpers

[spice spire]

[keen spruce]

“Assas is good because it keeps damage up while it can’t hit the boss” head ass

[waxen oyster]

if you want to make casters in pvp have a shit time

you never leave the pillar

and just hang barely out of los

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/gotta-be-quicker-than-that-be-quicker-mortgage-lead-leads-gif-25325589

[waxen oyster]

melee dot spec

infinitely worse than ranged dot spec

[strange trail]

What's our worse tier slot?

stats wise

[real granite]

has anyone made an @cursor macro for drakes in gb?

[spice spire]

Chest

[strange trail]

thank you!

[spice spire]

[wise mist]

best treacherous transmitter weakaura?

[slate crown]

[runic hinge]

I just did the one that yells jump or find orb

[tawny pawn]

guys can anyone answer if with bis is better to 2x dawnthreat vs the nerubian combo?

I know people are doing it right now cause you garantee a 636 weapon

i also can craft a 636 weapon

[spice spire]

Best at what

[tawny pawn]

raid/M+

[spice spire]

Craft command answers this

[tawny pawn]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[spice spire]

That’s not the same thing

[slim hedge]

The bubbling wax thing was a cool rogue fantasy thing, and I think blizzard are cringe

[normal mist]

It's most likely a bug

[tawny pawn]

i really dont know what to do

but i think ill reroll to ancencion

[normal mist]

Do you m+?

[tawny pawn]

i do M+

[normal mist]

Then dawn

Ascension is only better in raid and if you actually maintain 80% on dawnthread, the values are the same (dps wise)

[spice spire]

It’s literally in the command

[normal mist]

I know

But people seem to be against reading commands

So if we write down

In

Separate

Sentences

They pay more attention

[keen spruce]

^

This why royal got the green name now

[spice spire]

True

[languid cipher]

what embelishment should i be running?

[keen spruce]

When does quake get his own role for providing us with George access

[twin hull]

Hey i have wrist and belt with dawnthread...but i dont have the added buff from both of them still shows as 756

[keen spruce]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[spice spire]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[normal mist]

#assassination message

[slate crown]

[spice spire]

This is going to sound awful

[blazing jewel]

When he increases George’s cheese per day rate

[slate crown]

@spice spire yo ok bud?

[spice spire]

But you need to die in game

Just like

[normal mist]

Go below 80% HP and heal up

[spice spire]

Jump off your flying mount

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

No

[twin hull]

meaning?

[normal mist]

Keep reading

[spice spire]

“Die in game” doesn’t sound pleasant

Just drop yourself below 80% and heal back up

Should proc the second

[twin hull]

understood ty

[keen spruce]

Coulda just ripped a “kys” with no context

[spice spire]

I’m keeping his cheese rate the same

Wtf

[keen spruce]

And explained after

[spice spire]

Nah

[novel star]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[blazing jewel]

[keen spruce]

George is getting a little old for a cheese increase

[spice spire]

9 years young

He’s a little guy still

[keen spruce]

Just a big floofy baby

[spice spire]

(He’s like 70 pounds)

[past bobcat]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[runic hinge]

Dm’ing you some context

[tranquil flint]

Got imperfect ascendency serum. Sims real high but the root is annoying. anyone rolling with that?

[mint jungle]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[past bobcat]

Does fatebound sim higher?

[slate crown]

I am but not happy about it

it's annoying but I don't have better

[ancient egret]

Do we follow raidbots single target sim? Its telling me to take a 4k haste ring over my crit/mastery ring

[blazing jewel]

Sim is good

[tranquil flint]

well i can also take a 19 ilvl upgrade on cloak. but the trink sims almost 20k higher ;/

[lusty mountain]

bois, in which slot can we break tier set?

[spice surge]

Anywhere you have higher ilvl

[lusty mountain]

kk tyyyy

[still tree]

god vault was shit, a bunch of bad cloaks, rings, and delve trinkets. I should have taken a socket, but instead I took the delve crit candle trinket cause it's funny

[kindred elm]

I got tier gloves as my biggest upgrade 2 weeks in a row now. It’s rough out here

[timber meadow]

does dawnthread not give additional crit for the second?

[runic hinge]

!dawnthread

[prisma monolith]

Dawnthread has the same bug as Blue Silk Lining from Dragonflight where it fails to stack.
In order to fix it and trigger your second Dawnthread, take damage to drop under 80% health, then heal back up.

[runic depot]

how good is 4set for assa

[runic hinge]

2.1%

[runic depot]

doesnt sound that great

[runic hinge]

Most tier sets are not huge

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[keen spruce]

It stinky

[runic hinge]

Idk 10% ct damage sounds kinda sick in keys but obviously it’s not actually huge

Let’s say ct is like 10% of my overall which would be huge. Idk if it’s that high but that would be 1% lol

[waxen oyster]

4 ilvl on helm

that i took last week

wow is a good game

:)))

[runic hinge]

I have hero track helm with speed. So I could take that for .3 or I could take a socket for crafted bracers for .3

[honest needle]

right now for tier i have hands chest helm for tier currently. i just hit 2k i got a token should i get shoulder or legs with token whats better ?

[runic hinge]

Legs has more stats but it’s probably a sim angle either way

Leg also has an enchant so you could feel good about not replacing it soon

[honest needle]

but legs are bad for 1 od the rogue specs right

of*

[slow tulip]

hey, i simmed fatebound and it does 1.5K more dps (basically same) - is there a reason everyone plays deathstalker even in pure ST fights if the dps is the same as fb or lower ?

[runic hinge]

It doesn’t always sim the same

[severe oyster]

Oh wait so it's not my UI bricking with the bubbling wax?

[runic hinge]

Mine are 5% apart

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:

• If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
• If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip

[spice surge]

Theyre pretty close and it seems like people prefer the aestethic of deathstalker more

But ye its a bit odd

[slow tulip]

ye, i cant find 1 log with fb xdd

[blazing jewel]

I think whisp has played it a few times

[slow tulip]

(maybe whispyr if i looked really hard)

[onyx rock]

FB + Double Vanish is the meta

But noone knows

[flint parrot]

Finally off work and checking the vault, wish me all the lucks!

[haughty flicker]

the community has made the choice clear

we die before we flip coins

amen

[slow tulip]

[onyx rock]

You will get a Spyglass 100%

[spice spire]

90% of gamblers stop before they hit big

[haughty flicker]

dont have that issue if i never gamble to begin with

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[spice spire]

Do you play without seal fate?

[haughty flicker]

i dont play rogue at all

[spice spire]

Oh based actually

[flint parrot]

Damn no trinket, but I don't have a dagger yet. The Stitchflesh's Scapel looks like it has good stats.

[haughty flicker]

(i play rogue some)

actually need to check vault

[slow tulip]

looks like a trinket angle

[spice spire]

Not bad 616 dagger or decent trinket

[keen spruce]

Does anyone remember who the mayo on grilled cheese enjoyer was?

[keen spruce]

[earnest timber]

Sweating emoji

[haughty flicker]

ok rogue vault is ass

[blazing jewel]

Delete this

[keen spruce]

They changed their name so fast I could remember

[haughty flicker]

i dont play rogue

[runic hinge]

Hit another 12 flip on Sunday

[keen spruce]

I need to know

This is an audit

I think it was @shy pecan and he’s lying to me

[spice spire]

It was not Ed

[past bobcat]

Is Fatebound pre passive?

[shy pecan]

I’m not a grilled cheese enjoyer

[keen spruce]

Oh it was barik. He hasn’t even changed his name back

[spice surge]

Fatebound is more passive than deathstralker yes

[past bobcat]

Any reason why its simming 1% higher?

[shy pecan]

Mf’er didn’t believe me

[severe oyster]

Get out.

[runic hinge]

Your stats

[keen spruce]

@fallen forge

[runic hinge]

!hero

[prisma monolith]

Both Hero Talents are viable in all content, and are within 2-5% of each other.
Fatebound: Instant damage, is easy to play, can remove some buttons from the rotation, little to no added gameplay
Deathstalker: Introduces gameplay, Singular focus adds big priority damage, suffers from bugs and marks being hard to juggle in easy content like heroic/m0 dungeons

[runic hinge]

Maybe it’s stats

[keen spruce]

Idk that pfp looks like a mayo enjoyer

[spice spire]

I don’t blame him

[runic hinge]

!stats