assassination

[median flicker]

On jibbity god I do the same

[runic hinge]

When I have er up I love it. But when those charged combo points are gone I’m like. Ugh. Builders forever

[royal lantern]

ye like, even council atleast on heroic its not that bad

[earnest remnant]

i play sub there

so i dont know

[royal lantern]

when you understand that its basically "2x stun->target swap"

for mark

[earnest remnant]

just wait tryan

you wont be able to rely on that soon

cuz boss also phases on HP

[royal lantern]

time to slack on dmg for convenience

[earnest remnant]

ok nexus princess

aint ok

she one shots me

-.

[coarse shuttle]

have people sucessfully pugged brood? whats the correct egg strat

3/4/4?

i feel like I can get no dps on the parasites without getting fixated

[royal lantern]

1 rogue

3 dagger drops on heroic bloodbound

well, im not complaining

[weary shoal]

1CRAFT

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[faint path]

first 2 week was fun asf

now I'm looking for 5-6 key like 50 min none accepting

fuck this game literally

610 ilvl 2 set btw

[clear nexus]

any herbalists in here

[lusty widget]

went a full 24 hours without realizing I need to perform an action to get the buff from treacherous transmitter

[faint path]

haahahahahahahahhaah

[rugged sphinx]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[orchid wind]

!sim

do we sim on patchwerk or DS ?

[crimson current]

is it worth crafting a 619 dagger rn? i just dont drop any dagger

[wide ferry]

same got me doin delves for a shot at heroic gear cuz fuck pugging H raid right now.

[faint path]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2Hta96TGWf56LZupnVNfNZ hm I think treacherous transmitter not good for m+

[stone basin]

Guys, dont know if it's been said before but, if we ae blind, does it work on season affix ?

[balmy condor]

There’s a fix for it that hasn’t gotten pushed yet, probably tomorrow

[faint path]

what fix ?

[balmy condor]

Yes but it only works sometimes

[balmy condor]

In the apl

[charred salmon]

Any good rogue streamers to watch that are online now?

[stone basin]

thx boss

[feral mason]

only when targetted from a normal mob right

to be more specific

just cant blind from affix to aoe blind

[balmy condor]

Yes

[rotund ether]

This saved me so much sanity thank you

[thin kernel]

Have the most success just leaving it for the others to do

[waxen oyster]

Wasn't that also the case for raz sparks

[faint path]

shadow-binding feels like never proc

[sturdy stirrup]

stealthi online

[waxen oyster]

....that's a good thing

[sturdy stirrup]

exile online

[balmy condor]

You want it to not proc

[scarlet wyvern]

!talents

!talent

[faint path]

oh I thought when its proc gives 3k agi

[vital raft]

Oh there's a talent cmd? 👀

[balmy condor]

There isn’t

[keen glade]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

It’s a passive, when it procs it takes stats away

[vital raft]

Darn I was hoping a better talent setup was found, cuz methods doesn't rly work too well imo

I did edit it alil

[waxen oyster]

talent setup?

[white tide]

guys, Madnes of the Betrayer, is it any good? 😄

[waxen oyster]

[keen glade]

@balmy condor is there any update ? rupture and garrote track disappeared today xD

[faint path]

Would you use treacherous transmitter over shadow trinket? for m+

[balmy condor]

No update, that’s on your end

[keen glade]

ty

[balmy condor]

I wouldn’t ever use transmitter that shit is aids

[vital raft]

I use quazii wa for tracking personally

[rocky notch]

transmitter is a psyop

[novel star]

but the spawn location isnt rng 🤓

[rocky notch]

most obvious one in the history of the game

[faint path]

its good tbh if there is 3x jump or get the ball game hahahaha

[arctic cove]

YO ARe ppl doing caustic splatter on Ulgrax o? on HC

[novel star]

i did

[spice spire]

Hey @balmy condor can we nix !log in this channel?

[arctic cove]

aight

[spice spire]

Idk who else has access

Pls don’t hate

[novel star]

prolly good

[arctic cove]

aight soudns good, ty ty

[low skiff]

Anyone know how good or bad a Hero track Shard of Azzinoth from TW BT will perform?

[normal mist]

its bad

[spice spire]

Bad

[low skiff]

K

[tacit canyon]

wowanalyzer not working for assassin ?

[pliant gazelle]

Am I crazy, or did they changed the trinket from "use" to "jump" to administrate antidote in the middle of my raid ?

[novel hinge]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax is roughly on par with whetstones and are free. Some caveats:

• Right now having wax applied to your offhand does nothing. Make sure you apply wax first, then apply your whetstone
• The quickest way to farm for wax is pickpocketing the kobolds in front of darkflame cleft
• If you have no idea what any of this is, you need to start the questline with "Brax's Brass Knuckles", then walk into the inn and talk to the vent to start "Go Take Candle". Once you complete the short questline, you can pickpocket wax from the kobolds

[balmy condor]

Sure

[spice spire]

They might have fixed it in that case

[pliant gazelle]

Weird timing to fix that without a word

[true rapids]

they fixed echoing reprimand with deathstalker marks and we didnt get it in actual writing until like 3 days later

[spice spire]

It isn’t and likely won’t

[spice spire]

Ty king

[tacit canyon]

how come?

[spice spire]

Guy that was doing it is no longer and it’s a lot of work to implement

Whispyr did all the work

So I can’t say

But I assume it’s a lot

[pure mica]

So if we are running skardyns and mad queens, macro skardyns into death mark, use it on pull, then queens 30 seconds after?

[spice spire]

If those are the trinkets yes

[unborn wharf]

is there a way to have crimson tempest and two shiv charges or is that just not feasible

[warm vortex]

How much does assa benefit from the seasonal btw

Cuase ik sub doesn't get a single thing from it

[charred salmon]

Haste isnt that good

[warm vortex]

Ah al

[spice spire]

Counterpoint

It’s free stats baby

[warm vortex]

Alright fair

just annoyed that on sub i get a p much 0% dmg increase

[earnest remnant]

@spice spire HAVE I MADE IT?

[spice spire]

Holy shit

#1 rogue in the world inc baby

[slate crown]

gamer alert

[gray hazel]

The 2 set doesnt impact envenom damage right? What about the damage from Caustic?

[earnest remnant]

we went over to princess

that boss is something else

i feel violated

[pure moth]

Ouch

[spice spire]

Can’t wait to see u xoxo

[warm vortex]

Tbh tho i still don't know if im doing assa right
I just wanna play something that actually gets a benefit from the season affix (that's a rogue

[spice spire]

2 things

A. This is 1/4 seasonals

This isn’t the only one

Don’t plan around that

B. We benefit the most (iirc outlaw gets to a level it wants and that’s it) from extra haste

[warm vortex]

Yes ik
Just a bit annoying to me

[warm vortex]

Wait so different seasonal weekly? Is that what you mean

[keen spruce]

pirates want 17% for KiR

[keen spruce]

there's 4 seasonal affixes that rotate weekly

[warm vortex]

Ah ok that’s fair

[warm vortex]

Still idk why it isn’t a dmg increase like the other season 1 affixes

[spring moat]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[onyx gyro]

Pretty cool liquid running assassin innbroodbprog rwf

[novel star]

not to reignite the earlier discussion but ct looking really bad on ovinax tbh

[spice spire]

It is

[novel star]

surely you skip this talent ever

[spice spire]

10% haste is free damage

[novel star]

[spice spire]

Shit explodes on H tbf

[novel star]

ye

[warm vortex]

Not rlly for me on sub
It’s like a 20% increase to a small number that’s meaningless

[novel star]

but like

[warm vortex]

Especially compared to everyone else

[plush isle]

One Question: Is Dashing Scoundrel bugged or does it not show up at the warcraftlogs resource page ?

[keen spruce]

sir this is #assassination

[spice spire]

It shows

[novel star]

that convo earlier ppl were saying theres comps where you wouldnt take that bitch in mythic

aint no possible world

its so big

[royal lantern]

well

went from 0 tier pieces

to 4 tier pieces + heroic offhand

[keen spruce]

sort to boss damage tho

[novel star]

look at the shit that hes playing with and its doin all that

[novel star]

exile was 2nd in boss dam i think

or somewhere high

crankin

[keen spruce]

with CT?

[novel star]

yeh

[keen spruce]

[warm vortex]

I might try assa tomorrow
Only problem is I have 14K vers 💀

[keen spruce]

ig all of those other specs running big cleave/aoe too

[novel star]

yeh

entire fight is aoe

u have to

[faint path]

580 people kicking me from 6 dawnbreaker like... I miss first 2 week it was fun

[spice spire]

Doesn’t matter

[covert pulsar]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[strange python]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[inland escarp]

Whenever you do keys with people that seem solid just add them to friends, eventually you won’t have to pug so much

[jade abyss]

is it possible for the hybrid build to skip amplifying poison for a second shiv charge ?

[warm vortex]

Fair
Also I think ik how to play assa
Read the rota, looked nice things but I still feel like I don’t do it right

Iirc I ask for confirmation on the guide and someone called me stupid and said I was lazy for not reading it (despite doing so lol)

Like you just
Bleed everything from stealth, get splat on a dude
Tempest and slice
Then use your cds p much (iirc show before king right?)
And you maintain rupture and use vanish for garrot?

[limber lion]

eyo

[novel star]

idunno

i didnt say either way

i havent used it

[limber lion]

Yeh it's updated, we updated the command entirely so everything in it has been updated now

[chilly canopy]

!craft

[novel star]

kk

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[whole sand]

guy had a crisis yesterday on rogue and he's still pumping

[indigo ginkgo]

wax fixed ?

[warm vortex]

Is this p much the baseline?

[tepid lichen]

flensing knives is bugged for sin too ?

[indigo mulch]

[spice spire]

Essentially

[balmy condor]

It is

[dreamy parcel]

!delves

[royal lantern]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mgUEaRgVJ7g6MMQNGTPuTi

1million

[warm vortex]

Aight cheers

And ST is just
Bleed and even spam
Also I remember someone saying I shouldn’t shiv in aoe, also FoK is my main gen in aoe right

[cyan dew]

Boys do we ever play around sanguine blades?

[dire locust]

Should I use Mad Queen's Mandate on CD on raid boss ?

[inland escarp]

Shiv is for KB. Fok is aoe builder yes

[warm vortex]

Alr
And what order is the CD usage

[royal lantern]

just wanna say, those questions are all answered in the wowhead guide

[spice spire]

No

Said earlier and it’s still the same no

[subtle tundra]

late answer, bosses before it are very easy and then its barely possible
the difficulty curve is not a curve its a wall

[spice onyx]

anyone else noticed that sometimes they don't trigger their DSM stacks? I've noticed that every now and then i'll use a 5+ CP finisher and it doesn't trigger the stack of deathstalkers mark, wasn't sure if I just was doing something wrong or if there's a bug with it or something

[warm vortex]

Wait so shiv after kingsbane?

[royal lantern]

amidrasil vibes?

[novel star]

thought that was kinda standard

[warm vortex]

That’s what I see on the guide

[subtle tundra]

its only 5th boss

[novel star]

but idk i havent been locked in for a while

5th out of 8 though

isnt mid raid usually when theres a wall

[royal lantern]

eh, the problem is more like, when the bosses are not really that big and then suddenly there is a gigantic spike

[novel star]

2nd half

[royal lantern]

which is problematic

[subtle tundra]

yea but if 5th is 100+ puller for the very very very best its impossible for everyone else

[spice spire]

Usually it’s toward the end

[subtle tundra]

until people are 630

[novel star]

yeah thats true

[subtle tundra]

which isnt soon

[novel star]

thought theyd leave it till next week tho

[spice spire]

Also you want something that feels good without being impossible or luck

[novel star]

for race

[subtle tundra]

nah its hard locking every guild out of the top 5

[spice spire]

Eh

[royal lantern]

and what varas said, when WF people struggle, everyone that is not top50 guild will basically never kill it in a reasonable timeframe

[novel star]

but wat do i know

[novel star]

mmm

yeh makes sense

[spice spire]

The 2 week race is bis

Sofo was a miserable race

[subtle tundra]

literally not worth going into the raid to pull for anyone else

[royal lantern]

everyone was just tired and wanted it to be over

[spice spire]

Good indication is when guilds like colour get there and say “we’re not pulling this” it’s not really a difficulty issue

Idr any time they did that

[sacred condor]

dumb question but i can't figure this out. new to assa, playing M+ deathstalker build and my thistle tea glows in combat and requires multiple button presses to activate. what's causing this?

[warm vortex]

So it’s echo —> mark —> King—> mutilate —> tea —> fan —> even —> (vanish if need) —> shiv if I’m reading the guide right

[spice spire]

I know push would never

[novel star]

mm

understood

ty both

[subtle tundra]

not a single guild can even form the raid comp necessary to mathematically kill it

unless its top 5

not even top 5

top 3

[cyan dew]

ty

[royal lantern]

they dont have quake

thats the problem

quake could

[spice spire]

Dog

I’m a shitter

[shadow tulip]

Does NE meld work like vanish in fight? Raid and M+

[spice spire]

Like an actual ape

[earnest remnant]

we were pulling princess

[spice spire]

Yeah

[earnest remnant]

and we are planning on keeping doing that

on sunday

[royal lantern]

first mechanic->assassination happend?

[earnest remnant]

even if they dont nerf it

[royal lantern]

[spice spire]

But I’ve never seen colour nope off of a boss before

and egg boss is her

[earnest remnant]

we were just testing a WA for egg boss

[spice spire]

Oh nvm

Fuck

Princess seems more straightforward and gear dependent but idk shit about mythic I’m ngl to you big dog

[earnest remnant]

until you read her abilities

fucking drawing diagrams mid raid man

6 clones that charge

3 of them are enhanced (they glow red)

and if you dont have em charge through the boss before intermission you die

but you also cant charge all 3 at the same time through the boss

oh and the charge does 4.4mil

dmg

so there is that as well

and the ticking debuff after it ticks for 1.2 every 2 sec

[stark kraken]

Sounds like fun

[earnest remnant]

into orbs that hit for 6mil if you touch them

so

oh oh

and you drop below 10% health

the boss executes you

so

[royal lantern]

and if you drop under 10% hp you die instantly

+orbs

[earnest remnant]

yep yep

very nice

[wary hare]

I for one had a lot of fun in BT with bubbling wax procs getting me insta killed like 10 times 🤡. Still worth it though

[earnest remnant]

interesting boss tho

think im gonna enjoy it

[royal lantern]

ye, mechanics are kinda nice

just numbers needs a SLIGHT adjustment

[subtle field]

i hate you

[feral mason]

no grim batol farming

banger

[icy girder]

grats

[feral mason]

dungeon actually isnt that bad

just third boss

[icy girder]

yea 3rd boss is the pug killer

[subtle field]

i just hate repetetiveness

[nova kelp]

bruh

that trinket just never drops

[subtle field]

doesnt make it easier that there are like 11 items we can get

[icy girder]

yea

gunna be abit of a grind

[idle fossil]

Getting a little better

Still a lot of work to do

[icy girder]

pray for a big 1 in vault

[topaz bough]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/t6gd4Kp193nGfPDc

can anyone give me some tips to improve in general please?

[nova kelp]

wait... vaults drop things other than bracers, belts, and capes?

are you sure?

https://tenor.com/view/hmmmm-squint-fry-futurama-gif-4534510

[icy girder]

Lol

[idle fossil]

"You want more variety in the vault? Okay, it now drops Shirts and Tabards" - Blizz, Probably

[urban moat]

Is there a way to know how much damages were mitigated thanks to Atrophic poison ?

[gloomy otter]

https://i.imgur.com/PDtbkrJ.png

is there a way to check what im doing wrong or compare to the better players?

[limber lion]

ilvl parse is pointless to look at

There's no better way than to just find a good log of someone else and see what their doing differently

or look at a guide

or ask someone to review your log

[gloomy otter]

aight tyvm

[gloomy otter]

but why? isnt it a direct compare to other ppl with my gs?

[wicked dagger]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[silent stratus]

anyone knows how to setup custom sim on raidbots to check different potions rank?

[unkempt warren]

how comes ara kara is simming way worse than other trinkets for me?

(its 619 as well)

[limber lion]

Yes, but it's not that simple. It doesn't take into account stuff like someone having giga bis gear and a white cloak which reduces the ilvl

Of course pretty uncommon but yeah

But yeah, especially early on in the expansion when people don't run full enchants or perfect raid comps, it's a bit of a toss atm

In terms of parsing and comparison that is

I would just find a good rogue without externals that performs well on all/most bosses and compare your logs to theirs instead

!log

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[limber lion]

Nvm

Thought we had a good logreview command

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[royal lantern]

same ilvl<-------->equal gear

[cobalt sphinx]

my dad works for raidbots and i called him and said "make sacbrood bad"

[royal lantern]

lets take as an example that you and me have the excat same gear, all items are 600

now you get a 619neck and ring, and i get a 619 weapon and trinket

the dmg gap will be really big, but ilvl is the same

[cobalt sphinx]

also 0.4% is not "way worse" lol

[indigo mulch]

I thought wowanalyzer was deadge currently

[cobalt sphinx]

it's like the exact same thing

[stuck tree]

does anyone else have trouble soloing final boss in delve 8? doing the final one in spiral weave and im getting pounded rofl

[limber lion]

It sure is

[unkempt warren]

ahhh got it

[zinc frost]

Ngl if I ever had a bad log in Shadowlands I just used yours as a benchmark to see what I did wrong

[urban moat]

Some delves are just so easy and some impossible. Honestly just gotta try and leave to do another one of its too hard

[indigo mulch]

I thought i played silken court well, yet i only got a 94.

[limber lion]

[indigo mulch]

[stuck tree]

maybe i picked wrong one lol, mechanics are completely avoidable but auto attack damage isnt rofl

[limber lion]

Unlucky when being in the top 6% in the world is not good enough

[indigo mulch]

Yeah but its HC.

😐

[limber lion]

What does that matter?

[indigo mulch]

everything is dummys there are hardly any mechanics

[cobalt sphinx]

heoric boss but mythic tier waffling in discord

👍

[tawny geyser]

Wasnt Mandate on “Bis List” a day ago?
Dont care about BiS lists, but our Guild does and we only allow to roll for BiS lists from Wowhead.
Im sure Mandate was there but its not anymore.

[indigo mulch]

I can garantee you i will green log in mythic.

Like the proper mythic raider i am

[mild oar]

safe to run 'dungeon slice' for sin numbers?

[limber lion]

According to pins it is S tier yeah

[limber lion]

Sure, with a grain of salt

[burnt latch]

i wake up every morning and repeat this to myself in front of the mirror 3 times before i do anything else

[limber lion]

Yeah but that's for everyone

Not just you

[mild oar]

what should i mainly be simming - if i'm a m+ player?

[limber lion]

All 65k parses that there is in HC have hit a dummy

But you beat 94% of them

[limber lion]

Dslice and different forms of AoE

[indigo mulch]

When you put it that way.. Now i feel like an ass :C

[limber lion]

Mythic+ sims are a bit scuffed

[indigo mulch]

[distant plinth]

Does the timewalking illidan drop hero track items? I mean his loot table is hero tracked

[limber lion]

Mythic+ sims kinda don't matter as it's such a massive environment with so many variables

[limber lion]

Yes

[distant plinth]

Okok sank yu

[tawny geyser]

Yeah I see the pins, but why isnt it on Wowhead?

[arctic socket]

It is

[indigo mulch]

I wanna put together some m+ gear. I have like 1000 vers at the moment, it really isen't that good for m+ :C

[limber lion]

It's a screenshot... of Wowhead...

[tawny geyser]

Sec lemme find it

[arctic socket]

Brotha what

[cobalt sphinx]

pretty sure it's far better than hatse

[arctic socket]

What are you finding

[orchid wind]

what u guys do at ara kara first boss ?

[cobalt sphinx]

and 1000 is like half an item

[orchid wind]

just leave the boss, and rupture every single add ?

[tawny geyser]

This one here

[indigo mulch]

I would gladly trade all my haste for vers to be fair

[arctic socket]

You’re looking on the wrong place

[indigo mulch]

For m+

[arctic socket]

Did you not take a look at the pins?

Or go onto wowhead and read the explanations

[broken sandal]

@balmy condor are the principles the same with this vid (excluding envenom chaining due to set from last season), or are their differences in pooling with Sanguine blades for example? I understand all of assa just cant nail pooling as im so eneergy starved late in the fight in raid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG0zGACDAuY

[indigo mulch]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

• For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[balmy condor]

it's a lot easier now

you just max out your envenom uptime

and gg

no pooling resets really

[indigo mulch]

You legit just press envenom everytime its <1s unless you will overcap on energy. 😒

[tawny geyser]

Guild Leader is looking at this …

[balmy condor]

guild leader is dumb as shit

[indigo mulch]

[arctic socket]

Your guild leader is wrong asf

The transmitter trinket sims rlly good BUT royally fuck that trinket

[unkempt warren]

why is the scroll in c teir when its simming so high?

[onyx spindle]

we running kir/ deathstalker in keys?

[arctic socket]

Do you wanna sprint for dps?

[balmy condor]

if your guild leader is referencing wowhead bis lists you're doomed man

[balmy condor]

because you're not in bis

[unkempt warren]

gotta go fast

[icy girder]

wax fixed yet?

[tawny geyser]

Yea I know

[broken sandal]

so just remain energt starved for the most part until you about to enter a KB or DM window. where you should pool? or not even bother with that?

[scenic plank]

hello ! i always ask this but sometimes things change, do we sim patcherk 5 bosses for 5 minutes to sim for m+ ? trying to figure out what to pick from vault

[icy girder]

or still only used on main hand?

[arctic socket]

Use what robots tell you to brother

Sprint away

[balmy condor]

you pool between envenoms, you're casting envenom in pandemic

[formal pasture]

this mad queens mandate trinket is bonkers

[balmy condor]

always dungeonslice since legion, the rogue way

[unkempt warren]

i did but its showing me as it simming higher than a same level ara kara trinket

[balmy condor]

[scenic plank]

will do that then ! thanks

[balmy condor]

okay so then run the scroll

that's fine

[indigo mulch]

I don't think i ever done a dungeon slice for my character ;s

[arctic socket]

If you don’t like using sprint for dps run Ara Ara trinket

[tawny geyser]

I updated him. Thanks.
All cleared.

I sent you a DM, when you catch some time😁

[unkempt warren]

is it not just sim bait because of sprint?

[whole sand]

you can press sprint too

its ok

[unkempt warren]

i dont have it keybound

[arctic socket]

Bro what

[whole sand]

oh well maybe not then

[balmy condor]

H U H

no it's not bait

[arctic socket]

Bro WHAT

[balmy condor]

but jesus christ man

[unkempt warren]

id have to click it

[arctic socket]

Yeah no

[unkempt warren]

like i do shadowstep

[arctic socket]

Use Ara Ara trinket

[balmy condor]

what

no

stop

the scroll is fine

[unkempt warren]

WOW

[balmy condor]

just use the scroll

[unkempt warren]

SCROLL IS DELETED

[whole sand]

just make a macro and put the trinket on your bars and macro sprint into it

ez fix

[odd heath]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[arctic socket]

If you’re taking time to click shadow step n sprint

[unkempt warren]

im joking

[arctic socket]

You probably click your damage cds

[indigo mulch]

[unkempt warren]

lol

[whole sand]

sprint is like my second favorite button

[arctic socket]

My most favorite is feint now

[indigo mulch]

I hate feint

it reduces my damgur

[arctic socket]

Can’t damage if you’re dead on the ground

[indigo mulch]

I just say "i'm about to die" on discord, that triggers every single healer in the raid and they just shower you with heals.

[shy pecan]

@balmy condor how impactful is Deathstalker's Mark on AoE pulls typically in terms of your overall damage on a pull?

[unkempt warren]

c teir trinket goes in trash

[balmy condor]

depends on size and length

[unkempt warren]

oioi

[indigo mulch]

[shy pecan]

Trying to think of anything other than just the prio damage and rupture damage

[sullen hearth]

Thats what she said?

[broken sandal]

Cool so just cast your next envenom during pandemic of the Envenom debuff, unless overcapping on energy, in which case just send another

what is the Pandemic window for Envenom, 3 sec?

[balmy condor]

yeah

[keen spruce]

Whispyr forced to make bis lists:

• okay so with optimal perfect end game gear at full upgrade myth track these two trinkets are probably going to be best

half chamion track, non-upgrade, no enchant having rogues:
"why is list wrong? this other trinket is showing as better"

"okay just use that then"

"then why bis list wrong? "

[balmy condor]

30% like everything else

[cobalt sphinx]

clear the witness is decent damage and cp gen

[balmy condor]

so I guess within 1.5

[balmy condor]

I ran this on like 5 target a while ago, not big aoe

and no mark was like 20% I think

something around there

[dense jackal]

how is that people are crafting dagger 636 i only have 48 gilded crests

[normal mist]

m+

[balmy condor]

they have an additional 42 gilded crests

[dense jackal]

ohh got it

[tardy parrot]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[royal lantern]

[proven current]

Do we have to craft bracers and belt like wowhead says or can I just fill lowest slot?

[eager tree]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[runic hinge]

[grim jay]

you can craft boots aswell

[eager tree]

you can infinite farm low ilvl slots in m+ so no use wasting a spark just to do that unless its a wep

[violet zinc]

crying about your 580 main hand dagger on the auto post is hilarious

fortunately my team had no rogues i got regicide

[shy pecan]

On overall? Damn, kk

[waxen oyster]

regicide isnt even all that

besides its higher ilvl since it comes later in the raid

[violet zinc]

exactly just higher ilvl wep dmg

[shy pecan]

Having a discussion about being able to apply mark from stealth vs. just from DN

[waxen oyster]

But its a bit odd how much people act like the wep is bis itself

its a crest saver

[violet zinc]

real

[waxen oyster]

Honestly you could always just craft a 610 pvp one

if you're super down bad

[grim jay]

or just craft a 636 one next week

because you got 3 sparks

[waxen oyster]

*this week

[grim jay]

[waxen oyster]

you technically have 2 sparks

[grim jay]

next week 3

[waxen oyster]

yep

hard part is the crests for it

keys this week you need to do with real humans

not random pug shitters

[grim jay]

already have them

got forced to

just wanted to farm my 7s in peace, but we had 3 guys that had to craft their weapons

[waxen oyster]

i want to know why the first boss is 9-10 mins

dont 7s also give crests

[turbid crest]

Heya can a good rogue can sim please on ST

i sim 750k at 596 ilvl

[grim jay]

a good rogue sims the same as a bad rogue

[thorn fjord]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[shy pecan]

[turbid crest]

i mean

a rogue with good gear

607-608

[proven current]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[waxen oyster]

608 isnt even good gear

atp

[grim jay]

937k with 613

raidbuffs and m+ talents

whatever you wanna do with that

[violet zinc]

im only doing like 700/800k with 599

[copper panther]

I think from memory my sin sims at 1.09 geared for subtly and my subtly sims at 1.18M at 618

[royal lantern]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mgUEaRgVJ7g6MMQNGTPuTi

idk why you want it, but can have my sim i gues

and if i count as good

[violet zinc]

what keys yall suggest for 599 gs

[flat sleet]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gUo9eBLQPjAG6dsS5RG6vg

[royal lantern]

mists is easy

city/nw are overtuned bs

[cobalt sphinx]

At 599 whatever you can get invited to

Probably gonna have to beat 30 other applicants with higher ilvl

[waxen oyster]

at 599 you probably make better use

doing delves

till you get mre ilvl

[violet zinc]

ill just run with the bros we were doing 2s okay but thats really low i think

[errant basin]

What flask are we using?

[celest helm]

delve level 8s

[violet zinc]

got unlucky on those but ill keep em up i got some more keys i can farm this week

praying on maps

lol

[spice spire]

Gonna delve DN if you sass him again pal

[hollow radish]

Has anyone taken down ?? zekvir on rogue yet?

[turbid crest]

Hey have a question maybe stupid but

Why ppl have more io as assasin and not outlaw

when on simcraft best dps dj slice is outlaw

and outlaw have more ST // AOE // Versa

[subtle tundra]

cause sim dps != performance

sim is a tool for gearing/talents

[turbid crest]

Yeah trye but

i mean

[celest helm]

bet

[turbid crest]

outlaw is garbage to learn

assasin is so hard actually

so

[subtle tundra]

is it hard?

[spice spire]

I miss the brah so much

[turbid crest]

more than outlaw yeah

[subtle tundra]

or maybe it does enough dps even when played bad

[whole sand]

sin is sort of complicated for 14 seconds every minute

outlaw needs you to play 100% of the fight

[subtle tundra]

thats the easiest part though

cause all of your focus in on 1 thing

[slim pebble]

I’m 600 ilvl and did just fine in a +4

[whole sand]

but also iron wire, to the original question

[spice spire]

[subtle tundra]

if a spec is tuned high, you dont need to play it perfectly to do good enough

[spice spire]

Has anyone vanished garroted the affix yet

[subtle tundra]

assa aoe is high

[slim pebble]

I’ll try it later baby

[whole sand]

do not talk to me about that shit

[subtle tundra]

wtf

[spice spire]

For science dude

[whole sand]

affix is fucked

[spice spire]

Not a recommendation

[errant basin]

What flask are we using?

[celest helm]

i pad on them hard

[spice spire]

Man said “the affix is actually funnel”

[waxen oyster]

Honestly if assa and outlaw were equal in terms of dam

assa still has iron wire

[spice spire]

If you blow them up too early, you’re inting

[lunar oracle]

Affix is visually annoying most of all.

[waxen oyster]

anytime i see someone consider talenting out of it is like

[violet zinc]

the cheapest

[spice spire]

[wicked valve]

Is there a way to hide the eggsack on your back from the trinket? I really dont wanna be looking at that thing all expansion.

[spice spire]

An angel loses its wing

[wicked valve]

Aside from you, know, not wearing the trinket

[spice spire]

We only have it for one patch

[waxen oyster]

you guys stare at your characteR?

mid combat

[slim pebble]

Pad this

[spice spire]

Won’t have it next patch

[whole sand]

get a WA to cover the middle of your screen

[spice spire]

Idk about third cba looking out that far

[celest helm]

pad these 🍆

[waxen oyster]

how do you guys notice the eggsac?

[violet zinc]

can i be real, i be staring at the numbers/ui from details and weakauras lmao

[spice spire]

I do not

[waxen oyster]

mfs play wow zoomed in

[whole sand]

i didn't even know it was on your back

[spice spire]

I play first person actually

[waxen oyster]

i noticed it once while half afk doing delves

[keen spruce]

7.2% from liquid

[spice spire]

Zooming out ruins my immersion

[slim pebble]

Wait wow isn’t a first person game?

[keen spruce]

[novel star]

that ovinax enrage

is

a thing thats in the game

[waxen oyster]

optimal hunter experience

[novel star]

definitely

[violet zinc]

same never knew lol

[waxen oyster]

turn wow into an fps

[keen spruce]

even with lip alive

[novel star]

what the fuck

[violet zinc]

FPS WOW BET

[keen spruce]

that didn't look that close

[novel star]

was that

[keen spruce]

[whole sand]

did i look away

ffs

[keen spruce]

they need more boss dam

[novel star]

yeh

7.2% but that enrage looks evil man

[slim pebble]

Last I looked they were like 4 full ilvl behind echo. Is that still the case

[whole sand]

im ngl i thought they were gonna bench exile not the warriors

[keen spruce]

very doubtful

[novel star]

i mean hes crankin boss dam

[waxen oyster]

did liquid renown exploit

[slim pebble]

No

[novel star]

no

one of their players did on accident and got banned

method and echo had 10/7 players do it (probably)intentionally and get banned

[slim pebble]

Driney I think

[keen spruce]

yeah only driney got a timeout

[waxen oyster]

had to take 1 for 1 i guess

since echo lost zaelia

[novel star]

[whole sand]

bro fuck that enrage

[novel star]

ya

[gilded jewel]

when I go through mists maze doors and the tank agros the next pack, I always get pulled out of stealth even tho I am just standing away from the pack. is this a know thing?

[novel star]

lmfao

the swirlies

just dodge it man

[waxen oyster]

actually wonder what happens

[distant monolith]

!fuu

[novel star]

get in the safespot

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[waxen oyster]

to echo's mdi team

[novel star]

wherever the fuck the safespot is

[keen spruce]

I think they're swappin someone for boss damn

[novel star]

yeh

[whole sand]

there isn't one

[keen spruce]

and a cleaner p3

should be deadge

lip as dead for half of p3 too

[whole sand]

im surprised they were on this for so long

im guessing they thought this was easier than princess? i'm hyped to see that fight done properly

[keen spruce]

did you see the honolulu clip from princess?

[whole sand]

nop

[keen spruce]

https://x.com/GuildHonolulu/status/1836862855200575616

Honolulu (@GuildHonolulu) on X

THIS
IS
FINE

Twitter · Sep 19, 2024, 8:20 PM

[whole sand]

LOOL

[keen spruce]

I love watching the echo and liquid vods calmly problemsolving ovinax

[violet zinc]

lmaoo

[keen spruce]

meticulously assigning eggs and figuring out comp

then you pull up that clip

and it's just the beaches of normandy

[novel star]

ovinax enrage targets u irl

mental damage

cant see shit

[wicked dagger]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[novel star]

[keen spruce]

I think the puddles come out in set intervals

so it's just run into the shit, then back under the boss

over and over

and eventually sack whoever gets webs

[novel star]

max was saying half the swirlies are random half are targeted

so its kinda a cock either way

if true

[errant basin]

Does bubbling wax work on offhand?

[scenic plank]

guys help a brother out been tired of simming, do i take a champion leg tier piece to make it 4/4 or do i take a hero leg piece that i turn with catalyst next wendesday

[narrow marsh]

gasp, they shadow nerfed concoction kiss of death, unless I missed notes somewhere

[subtle karma]

!up

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[novel star]

well our set kinda sucks so just invest in the long term stats probably

[scenic plank]

done! thanks been staring at this thing all day

[copper pine]

is assa right now the "best" spec for m+ or outlaw ?

[novel star]

sin probably

idk depends

on key and shit

[icy girder]

Just join the skaryns grace gang hero track woooooooo

[novel star]

our aoe is simply better but mobs need to survive for it cus ramp time shit

[copper pine]

kk ty 🙂

yes but in higher keys it shouldt be a problem

[novel star]

depends on ur group

and the definition of "high"

but generally tru ya

[hardy kraken]

how u think asa in raid good or not really?

[feral mason]

soon as you hit 10 mobs will live long enough for sure

[novel star]

its okay

[feral mason]

before then depends on group comp

[novel star]

rwf teams are playing sin on rash and ovinax

for execute and free cleave

other than that it looks like its just sub/outlaw equally kinda

if you arent at that level just play literally whatever you want

you will be most valuable to even a far above average guild

by just being comfortable autopiloting ur spec and doing mechanics better lol

[winged basin]

I stand by playing a bad spec good, is gonna beat a fotm spec playing like mid, every single time.

[indigo mulch]

Man those DK's are pumping those adds lmao

[copper pine]

yes for raid maybe but for m+ you didnt get invited if you dont play the meta spec 😄

[indigo mulch]

It make sense that he plays without CT though, they have so much burst aoe.

[winged basin]

cant relate, I perma run my own key unless I am specifically farming something

[distant monolith]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[winged basin]

I play without CT cause my group has 3 fury warriors lol

[indigo mulch]

I mean, in hc/normal nothing survives long enough anyway 😄

[keen spruce]

I heard sub and pirate giga stinky on queen

[novel star]

it was cranking but they switched out a healer for more aoe dam

i think

so he only took it off like recently

[keen spruce]

this is true all the way deep into CE raiding

[brittle quail]

can we cancel darkest night

?

[novel star]

at least im pretty sure it was a healer

[indigo mulch]

5 pulls ago, he said so. Even so, it makes sense with the kind of comp they have.

[novel star]

they switched something out for more aoe

[winged basin]

he took it off 2 pulls ago, nice to see some sin representin in here

[keen spruce]

I think they did some talent swaps

and might swap MM for BM

but their low pull was kinda scuffed and might have enough as is

[winged basin]

BM for more boss dam?

[keen spruce]

yeah

They just bbq'd the boss in P1 though

maybe don't need to

[winged basin]

ahh thought so cause BM is butt for aoe, and yeah they dead jeeeeeeeeez

I truly envy someone like firedup who is so comfy with his buttons he doesnt have actionbars showing

I personally have never been able to shake the habit of looking at my bars

[inland escarp]

Just force it

You’ll get used to it quick

[indigo mulch]

Inc kill?

I believe.

[keen spruce]

looks gud so far

this is a nasty set tho

[indigo mulch]

Yeah

[keen spruce]

ok no melee dead

[shadow tulip]

Guys, am I right in thinking that mass blind only works if my target is a normal mob? Not an affix mob.

[keen spruce]

all brezes

[shadow tulip]

Or am I crazy

[winged basin]

those triple spiders are absolutely brutal on tanks

[runic hinge]

Log in

[keen spruce]

[runic hinge]

[novel star]

surely this is the pull

[abstract parrot]

Hello guys

[keen spruce]

AINT NO WAY

[winged basin]

DAMN

[scenic plank]

rip

[keen spruce]

THEY MISSED KICK

[novel star]

:(

[keen spruce]

[indigo mulch]

Tank mehanic i think

[tired gull]

soclose.jpg

[keen spruce]

that boss was getting the shmeat

[carmine tartan]

Yeah mass blind doesn’t work on the orbs, kinda sucks but that just means we can always have it for oh shit moments lol

[scenic plank]

mass blind, whaaaaaa

we have that now ?

[indigo mulch]

[scenic plank]

New Talent: Airborne Irritant (Passive) – Blind applies to 4 additional nearby enemies while Blade Flurry is active, okay, that's just an outlaw thing ?

[abstract parrot]

What do u think about addon "Hekill" is good?

[spice surge]

No

Not sure where youre reading, but its in the class tree

[scenic plank]

well god damn

we live in the future

[fair thicket]

what do you think about maxroll guides?

[scenic plank]

you sir, just saved some of my pugs in m+, TIL

[keen spruce]

no hekilli bad

[abstract parrot]

Just do rotation good right?

[feral mason]

lol the dungeon after i get the grim batol one

[keen spruce]

yeah just practice on a target dummy

[keen spruce]

[abstract parrot]

any good guide for rotations? thanks

[kindred elm]

Yeah will work on the orbs IF you cast it on a normal mob that’s in the middle of the orbs

Just not if the target is an orb

[indigo mulch]

Rip

[keen spruce]

Wowhead and icyveins both it

[indigo mulch]

Not sure why they are changing strats when they had such a good try previously ;o

[spice spire]

Think he means add on

[abstract parrot]

Could u send me a dm ? @keen spruce

[feral mason]

are the aoe trinkets sacbrood + skardyns?

or is there something im forgetting

[rancid rock]

Is there a table or a number on whats the dmg% that you get overall with 2/4 pc?

[spice spire]

1/2-3%

It ain’t a big number

Also that’s not adding

[feral mason]

pure aoe is pretty high though

like 4-5

[spice spire]

That’s 1% gain if that for 2p
4p 2.4ish

Yeah I’m doing ST

[feral mason]

yy

[spice spire]

Cba with the mind goblins on aoe

[narrow basalt]

is adrenal surge clasp doodoo?

havent really seen anyone use it, so I assume thats the case

[spice spire]

Same

Can’t tell u what it does

[rancid rock]

still feels kinda sadge @spice spire @feral mason ty both

[honest pelican]

had one drop in a m3 today and entire group was "U NEED?" NEED THAT DUDE????"

[narrow basalt]

boost agility at the loss of mastery

[spice spire]

Is what it is

Seems bad ngl

[honest pelican]

anyone soloing t8 delves? im curious what ilvl it got "faster" like 600? 605?

[oblique kiln]

when your second deathmark and vanish is up after your opener do you go into vanish, ambush (to reapply dm), envenom deathstalker, shiv, KB

[rancid rock]

old tiers giving like 12% on 4pc i thought it could be something like that, i was about to catalyst champion pieces

[honest pelican]

i know its possible much lower, just i was struggling at 580 i havent tried since i geared up any solo runs

[spice spire]

Nah no tier is giving 12 this tier

[feral mason]

its "always" like this in season 1

[spice spire]

Think dh is like 10

[feral mason]

df as well

really doesnt go above 10 and those are outliers that blizz mostly nerfed

[spice spire]

Df was stronger overall I think

[indigo mulch]

I'm sure some set gives you more than 10% Not sure after the nerfs though

[feral mason]

just has to do with hero talents i guess

didnt want too many knobs

[tepid lichen]

is it worth the pain of using it

[feral mason]

i feel like one tier of tier based around hero talents wouldve been cool

[tame seal]

C+ tier. Certainly a dps increase, but downtime doesn’t feel great. Can use start of it off GCD

[royal lantern]

that would be horrible lol

how is that a good idea

espacily when it doesnt work with how hero talents are structured

[queen egret]

How many of you are crafting daggeer?

[royal lantern]

did craft 2, but not for me

cus raid gave 2 daggers

[indigo mulch]

Is it okay to make steak at 01:32? :C

[normal mist]

@royal lantern

i joined a +2 just to have a feel for the new affix and such

1st m+

as soon as i enter the party, the mage tells me "you better pump dps"

[indigo mulch]

What?! Are you leaving me as a lone normalgamer?

[vocal cradle]

is the tech wax main hand whetstone off hand or the otherway around?

[indigo mulch]

[scenic nacelle]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[feral mason]

oh damn sacbrood is underwhelming for assa

thought it was like unanimous bis for everyone haha

[spice spire]

Doesn’t matter don’t think it’s proccing double so it’s just whatever

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax is roughly on par with whetstones and are free. Some caveats:

• Right now having wax applied to your offhand does nothing. Make sure you apply wax first, then apply your whetstone
• The quickest way to farm for wax is pickpocketing the kobolds in front of darkflame cleft
• If you have no idea what any of this is, you need to start the questline with "Brax's Brass Knuckles", then walk into the inn and talk to the vent to start "Go Take Candle". Once you complete the short questline, you can pickpocket wax from the kobolds

[spice spire]

Oh yeah nvm

Mainhand

[vocal cradle]

wrod

word*

[craggy moss]

so i had a quick discussion point.

When I was reviewing my dmg meters I found that Caustic Splatter was my main point of dmg. I was wondering Should I even be bothering to put points into aoe?

[royal lantern]

tf are the Others doing

[normal mist]

not playing

[spice spire]

Yes CT still cranks and provides fan

Along with garrotes and IC

[crisp pine]

Had a fury do 500k dps overall in a +5 ara ara

Things are wild out there

[craggy moss]

yeah its sad, my 591 Arms warrior was smoking dps when it came to bosses, I was out dpsing 610 Pala and 612 Rogue

I eventually beat them when it came to execute stage

[zinc frost]

More dmg for you

[craggy moss]

whats a good sim website lads?

[normal mist]

for some wild reason details kinda bugged out and mixed raid members in that overall dungeon LOL

[spice spire]

http://www.raidbots.com

[cyan dew]

On normal rotation I vanish before the burst (so before DM) or before KB?

[normal mist]

at 2 mins mark, you vanish -> garrote -> DM

if you're playing improved garrote

[cyan dew]

thanks!

[normal mist]

which means you delay DM for like 6 seconds

[cyan dew]

k, tyvm

[orchid adder]

Sorry if this has been asked a lot, but lets say I have a 603 dagger and I push it to 619 which costs 60 runed harbinger crests. If i get another dagger thats better stats at 603 and pushed that to 619, it would only cost valor to upgrade because I've already spend the crests previously?

[normal mist]

I believe not

[gusty stag]

thats correct laserati

[normal mist]

because we use 2 daggers so we need to upgrade both separately

same as rings

[blazing pumice]

you have to upgrade both

[orchid adder]

Ah, well if I already had another dagger that was 619 would it only cost valor then?

[novel veldt]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[blazing pumice]

yes

[normal mist]

you cant upgrade one to max and the other is "free"

you need to upgrade both

[orchid adder]

Okay, that's fine as I already have a crafted one at 619. Just wasn't sure if I was wasting the crests by upgrading a dagger with sub-par stats. Cheers guys this crest stuff hella confusing lol

that picture is very re-assuring though

[gusty stag]

They need to increase valorstone drop from mythic+

Even with discount it takes so many dungeons

[indigo mulch]

LMAO

[gusty stag]

You craft one 619 and upgrade one 619 and rest is free.

[indigo mulch]

That just hurts my soul to see.

[normal mist]

that was not the question i believe

[gusty stag]

Well technically not, thats why i elaborated 🙂

[orchid adder]

It was, I should have explained it a bit better. I already have a 619 dagger beforehand so it wouldn't have been my very first to 619. Thanks guys

[normal mist]

the second 619 still needs to be upgraded with crests

[earnest remnant]

if you do NOT have 2x 619

it will cost crests

[orchid adder]

Yes but I mean I have a 619 crafted one, now im about to use crests to boost up another one to 619. Then if I find a third dagger with better stats, would that one be only valor is what I meant

[earnest remnant]

yes

the third one would be valor

[orchid adder]

thank you

[cobalt sphinx]

crests for a 2nd dagger is kind of a waste

[rugged saddle]

Is bubbling wax still bugged i havent checkedin a while

[cobalt sphinx]

i think

[remote trellis]

in single target between cds you just maintain envenom uptime as in you press envenom at 5+ combo points everytime its <1 second left? you shouldnt press envenom otherwise unless youre going to overcap energy?

[cobalt sphinx]

you can do it but the damage increase is worse than most of your other slots as far as i know

[orchid adder]

Ah, probably should just use on trinkets then instead. Fair enough

[errant heath]

Is kiss of death bugged for anyone else? It goes on cd on the first use

[copper pine]

which item should i craft with embelishment ?

[still tree]

I finally got a trinket combo that sims better than this fuck ass imperfect ascendency serum

freeeeeedom

[abstract parrot]

How to see "time to end" here in my target?

[fringe fjord]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[shell lodge]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[wraith arrow]

Can i somehow switch position of LE Resources and Core in the Weakaura?

[pliant coral]

hello! do you always use shiv for last 8 seconds of kingsbane in both ST and aoe if you are in a build with only 1 shiv charge?

[runic hinge]

Yes

[pliant coral]

tyty!

[slate crown]

Do you mean put the bars under the icons?

[wraith arrow]

yes

[brazen jacinth]

how far behind is radiant behind depths for single target dps?

kind of want to just use radiant if its only like 1-2% difference

[sturdy crater]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[slate crown]

The icons work with their second row assuming there isn't something directly beneath them, but yes you can move everything around visually if you'd like. You just have to mess with the y-offsets in the Group settings of Resources group, and other groups

You may need to account for the position of RtB and SnD icons which may also conflict

So, ultimately, there's not an easy config setting to change the positions, you'd need to just make the changes, which can be done by modifying the positions in the pack

[wraith arrow]

Alright thats okay for me, if i can just move the y values and dont destroy too much of the dynamic 😄

ty

[slate crown]

np

The sub groups all used to be anchored to each other

but I removed that anchoring for this reason

[wraith arrow]

okay, ill try it