assassination

[woven shore]

the excuses to kick 608 ROGUE out of your group

here we go agane

[urban moat]

When i took tempest on brood my caustic was much lower than when i didn't. I don't get how to play it for that fight

[fickle lotus]

I tried it too and my parse was garbage lol

[glacial crypt]

Was that in normal or heroic?

[woven shore]

is there a Weakaura which hides my characters class to others?

[glacial crypt]

Adds don't live long enough for value in normal

[fickle lotus]

heroic for me mythic for exile

[urban moat]

heroic

[fickle lotus]

Does sanguine blades show up in details?

[glacial crypt]

Balancing everything to line up for CT on adds spawn can be a little tricky

[balmy condor]

Yes

Sanguine is its own line

[fickle lotus]

oh nice

[dawn kelp]

Do we worry about chaining envonems at all

[vast loom]

Ty

[glacial crypt]

But CT value even in hc is big if you're struggling with the adds

[glacial crypt]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

• For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[fickle lotus]

I think even in heroic adds kinda explode if groups are doing it right

[glacial crypt]

I thought the same but still got big value out of it today

Let me check log incase in chatting shit

[dawn kelp]

Under 50% uptime or under 50% energy

[balmy condor]

I mean exile running CT is actually no brainer

It’s like 15% of his damage lmao

[woven shore]

whisp you doin mythic ?

[balmy condor]

Tomorrow yea

[woven shore]

did your guild already start or fresh

[fickle lotus]

When do you think he starts to take double vanish carnage

[glacial crypt]

It's a lot of damage

[balmy condor]

Never lmao

[balmy condor]

My guild is going into mythic tonight

[urban moat]

Can u send link plss

[left sundial]

@balmy condor how can i increase deathmark uptime

[balmy condor]

What lmao

[glacial crypt]

My logs are private I'm afraid ):

I do have public logs on "Cuddlemeufkr-Sylvanas" if you're interested

[balmy condor]

It’s a 2 min cooldown

[woven shore]

why do people set logs on private anyway

[balmy condor]

Idk how you would increase uptime

[balmy condor]

Prevents poaching

[blazing jewel]

press the button harder

[glacial crypt]

To stop us caring about them for progress

[balmy condor]

Oh deathstalkers mark

[left sundial]

kill timer faster than me but deathstalkers much more

[fickle lotus]

i'll try it out on friday when we do our heroic clear

[balmy condor]

Yeh idk

[woven shore]

XD

[glacial crypt]

We're currently 3/8M with a low% pull on rasha'nan, no one is thinking about their logs at all

We just want the bosses dead

[woven shore]

good argument

im playing like shit

88-95 logs are bad

[urban moat]

Sure, cuz i struggle with going from boss to adds with ct on Brood so o wanna see how it s done

[woven shore]

[novel star]

shit is so easy for real

[urban moat]

I'll check

[fickle lotus]

I would imagine if you're that ahead that your log will just show you as rank 1 anyway for kill

[dusty zenith]

most of the mythic + wowhead dungeon builds dont us AP , Is that the best mythic build right now?

[novel star]

i mean getting in a good guild isnt but like just grind that bitch out

[glacial crypt]

Most of them do show as that yes

[balmy condor]

AP is stuck behind way too much nonsense

[dusty zenith]

elaborate plz

[woven shore]

been doing batol for about 7 runs

no trinket no nothing

wtf bro

[urban moat]

SAME !! 😡

[storm hedge]

7 is not much

[dusty zenith]

CMQA27SZpS4XnmFfcXRqkppuwzMjZmxMWmBAAAAAgZB2mBAAAAAg22mZGegZGjZmZZWGMGzMmZmZmZsttMmBYzsMwAWCWGmADLA

This is what I use currently for talents

mythic+ sorry

[weak hemlock]

Anyone knows if there is a typo in Rupture's tooltip? According to the tooltip if it is applied with 5 combo point than its duration on the target should be 24 sec but as I can see it has 28 sec duration with 5 combo point.

[fickle lotus]

because of hero talent

it's 4+ seconds

[urban moat]

7 is 10 -3 pugs leaving after 1 wipe and so so long to start a dung

[weak hemlock]

ohh, i see! Thanks!

[balmy condor]

Systemic failure + blindside/ttb sucks so zold/arterial suck as a consequence because you’re required to path through them

[woven shore]

yea gl bro

[glacial crypt]

I just want to be in raid

We're only going from 18-22 tomorrow and I'm at freaking uni during the day so I can't just m+

I want to be pressing my buttonsn

[fickle lotus]

everytime i talk about raids or logs i want to raid

i hate it so much

gotta wait till the weekend

[balmy condor]

I couldn’t m+ today cause they ripped up my street trying to fix the internet and then I work today on my guilds added day

[spice surge]

We lost almost an hour of raid time today

[balmy condor]

Misery

[spice surge]

Because server lagged

[glacial crypt]

Man 😭😭😭

[balmy condor]

Tomorrow surely

[fickle lotus]

raid lag was so bad yesterday 6 of us had wow crash during our normal queen kill

[glacial crypt]

Why do things get in the way

[balmy condor]

[charred crest]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[glacial crypt]

I believe 🙏 you can get juices up real quick

Juiced

[urban moat]

Haha same, last uni year but what's a degree without the joy of pressing buttons for at least 3h a day ?

[glacial crypt]

Oh my sweet summer child

We raided from noon till 10pm today

[fickle lotus]

those are rookie numbers

[urban moat]

Its much more but i didnt want to be judged 👊

[balmy condor]

I’m calling the overtime police

[glacial crypt]

CAN YOU BLAAAAME A BUNCH OF EXCITED MFS

For JUMPING in

Tbf only first like 3 hours were mythic

Rest was more splits zzzz

After tomorrow I have to wait until SUNDAY

THAT'S TOO LONG

[fickle lotus]

did you at least get queen ring?

[glacial crypt]

Listen

That's a big ring for many classes..

😭

[fickle lotus]

[robust scaffold]

anyone got the misdirect/tricks WA/macro that auto MDs tank? not sure if the one I was using in DF s3 was updated

[bronze dune]

got my first heroic orange log last night boys. is this progress? 🙃

[glacial crypt]

Go on blaster 🙏

[fickle lotus]

only if the ilvl % parse is also orange

[glacial crypt]

Oi oi oi

Ilvl parses are silly

[bronze dune]

yeah buddy, 97% ilvl

[fickle lotus]

see ilvl parses bang

[fleet pagoda]

so bubbling wax is broken in BT timewalking incase yall do that

[bronze dune]

i feel stupidly proud of myself hahahaha

[urban moat]

My friends dob't understand the hype

[glacial crypt]

We've spent literally so much time preparing to be in this raid

It's finally some new content to blast on

[fickle lotus]

i'm glad the raid bangs

[bronze dune]

legit every boss feels great. aside from maybe sikran

[glacial crypt]

From the first princess pull on ptr we knew this would be a banger

[fickle lotus]

shes 100% my favorite fight

intermission is so fucking cool

[glacial crypt]

The only thing I think is funny about that

In normal you have fyrakk blaze lines instead of the pizza

[tranquil ruin]

how does serrated bone spike work with sudden demise?

[glacial crypt]

When people go from normal to heroic they'll shit themselves

[fickle lotus]

some people just are unable to learn how to walk in the direction your line is going

[urban moat]

Not the basicfit sub pay notification coming in now while we talk about being a bit too much on wow, knowing very well i won't go this month cuz i play too much

[urban moat]

It does !!

[glacial crypt]

Oh god I've not paid for my sub since COVID hit lmao

[fickle lotus]

I love how many mechanics i'm able to cheese

[fair wharf]

Why are dead-eye spyglasses our bis if there are so many stronger options ?

[glacial crypt]

OH THAT'S A GYM

LMAO

[bronze dune]

have you tried treachorous transmitter?

[urban moat]

🙂🙂

[bronze dune]

its fucked

[glacial crypt]

It's fine after 4 weeks you can go back again

Pretend nothing happened

[fair wharf]

ok what about the other trinkets then

[shadow badger]

if im looking to play all 3 specs i should craft what, wrist and belt with vers lining?

[glacial crypt]

Any on use 2 minute one is good tbh

[urban moat]

This is a safe place

[glacial crypt]

Make 3 different gear sets

[shadow badger]

i only have 2 sparks 😦

[fair wharf]

i cant see siege of boralus anymore

i hate it there

[glacial crypt]

More rogues required

[gusty mirage]

don't worry, they made sure to give you the shittier version of the already incredibly dogshit dungeon

[urban moat]

I used to have the green phial trinket thingy but it seems i'm terrible at the game and i kept forgetting to press it again and got stunned into bosses aoe

[urban moat]

Which part?

[glacial crypt]

That thing seems lethal

[fair wharf]

last boss

[bronze dune]

yeah i have it atm

need a weak aura to remind me

[urban moat]

Yeah i used one that shows when there's 10s left

[bronze dune]

30 seconds is just long enough for me to forget otherwise

[urban moat]

With glowy icon but.... I still forget

Yeah!

[gusty mirage]

did you experience the tank not going near the loose tentacle and wiping the group due to the aoe damage slam it does?

that's pretty neat

[urban moat]

The dispell dot is just WILD

[fair wharf]

yes and yes

[safe shale]

Transmitter transmits your dps into shitsvile while you play minigames

[willow cloud]

The transition from the super obstructing trees blocking the bananas, to the “need max wide angle 360* view to know where water is” is one of the most egregious camera crimes in wow

[safe shale]

Just get skardyn grace, and one other, dm which at this point out of the top

[bronze dune]

got my queen ring last night in normal too, keen to see how it goes with heroic prog tonight

we're working on silken court

[fair wharf]

but the deadeye spyglasses sound fun with the cp generation

i like seeing big numbers with deathstalker

ill run it one more time, im sure itll drop this time :)

[safe shale]

you already got skardyn?

[glacial crypt]

I'm passing out glhf in raids later and tomorrow ladies 🙌

[green bolt]

Whats the difference number wise between deathstalker and fatebound in low m+?

[split grail]

bubbling wax still only works on one wep right, so we can't use them as a cheap opetion

[fickle lotus]

I hit a 8mil envenom crit the other day it was perfect

[fair wharf]

yes

[safe shale]

damn

I got 616 contract in vault today

So im spamming grim batol

nothing yet tho

[fair wharf]

i got it on the first try and im being punished for it now

it seems

[safe shale]

I literally have 616 void contract, and a 593 honey buzzer

CANNOT REPLACE THAT BUZZER

sims higher than everything atm other than skardyn

[fair wharf]

what does

[safe shale]

honey buzzer

pile of shit

[fair wharf]

has to be from delve right

[safe shale]

No, from brewery m0

sorry brewery heroic*

[real pike]

is it just me or is ER interacting better with DsM

[safe shale]

obviously

[real pike]

fuck like 5 days ago

shit

[safe shale]

Craz you just notice

[real pike]

have been away from home

[turbid crest]

Whats addons you use to see CD def of your mates on DJ ? and tracks kicks please

i dont remember name

[safe shale]

omnicd

[turbid crest]

idk i dont see it

maybe it working with elvui ?

[safe shale]

should b

[turbid crest]

Do you have an ui profil pretty decent for push MM+?

[safe shale]

Are you in open world or dungeon?

[sage tapir]

what items do we craft for m+ ?

[urban moat]

Elvui was my worst nightmare i've never understood it and it interacted so weird with other addons i removed it

[safe shale]

Just a you thing, but i get it

[real pike]

so does Vanish literally do nothing now if we play the no imp gar build

[safe shale]

correct

[dusty zenith]

use it to apply mark

[safe shale]

unless you take the point that makes it so ambush gives 1 more cp.... but i mean

[dusty zenith]

if you need

[safe shale]

Yeah... if you need it

[real pike]

oh boy vanish back to an actual defensive/tech ability?

[urban moat]

It feels better having Vanish up in case we need to reapply DM

[safe shale]

and somehow dont already have iut

[real pike]

I'm so fucking here for it

[safe shale]

boss intermissions etc

[real pike]

yeah that's super useful

drops on a fair few bosses

[winged basin]

does cloaking rashanan web reave troll the raid?

like do they still take a BUTTLOAD of damage cause technically someone is missing from the soak?

[safe shale]

not if you move out

wait what

Oh, no

[haughty flicker]

cloaking soaks still counts as someone soaking

[safe shale]

But its kinda stupid to cloak a soak

[haughty flicker]

but yeah there are probably better uses

[winged basin]

ok cool, and yeah true, I was just curious

[haughty flicker]

if everyone is in the soak it does very little

[safe shale]

whole point in soak is to share the damage

[winged basin]

I misclicked, and people got hurt, but I am just assuming its on others for not being in the soak

[safe shale]

so by using a defensive when you dont need to its kap

[winged basin]

nah I just feint everything

[safe shale]

probably

I dont

[winged basin]

95% of this raid is just feintable lmfao

[safe shale]

uses my energy

95% doesnt need it

[urban moat]

Feint fan account

[urban moat]

Had never used it before the raid cuz idk i can't read apparently and its just so op

[winged basin]

its a good ability, with all the avoidance terts I have gotten, so I got like almost 50% aoe dr

[woven shore]

what i love the most about m+ coming out is how annoying it is to find a grp and when you get into one the people cant play their fucking class

what the fuck is that shit

but no way dont invite the rogue into the grp

[urban moat]

Pugs should replace tyrannical affix

[still tree]

I kinda like the pug experience. Every dungeon is a new surprise

[woven shore]

lmfao

i swear

[urban moat]

Since when is Rogue a class u dob't invite ?

[woven shore]

im doing +3 batol now

for trinket

[umbral pike]

Does anyone have weakauras that yell at you to remember to use cooldowns lol

[woven shore]

fuck the 200 more valors

[urban moat]

Good Luck haha

[still tree]

I'm waiting for the seasonal affix where you have to /whisper Xal'atath back or she gets mad and wipes you

[woven shore]

just the regular wa

[rapid talon]

just transfer to A52 and you won't have to play M+ because the server is always down

[woven shore]

you have no clue

im on this since the whole day

[umbral pike]

there are regular wa that do that?

[woven shore]

what a horrible experience

[steel wagon]

is there a gear bis spreadsheet?

[woeful wigeon]

why dont you use the m+ discord for groups instead of random peeps then

[arctic tusk]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[urban moat]

Please say it here when u get it, inkl savour a little bit of your win

[woven shore]

by that i mean the Basic Rogue wa

[arctic tusk]

fatebound actually simming higher in ST?

[arctic tusk]

is that a bis gear thing or

[woven shore]

bc i only want to do grim

[arctic tusk]

wait dont yell at me whispyr ILL SIM MYSELF

[umbral pike]

oh I have that, but I need something that yells atm e

[woven shore]

lmfao

[still tree]

god, I'm tempted to go farm that batol trinket just cause the spider serum is actually getting annoying now

[woven shore]

that means you should learn your rotation

[umbral pike]

Like jingling car keys infront of my face

[woven shore]

nah no clue sorry

[winged basin]

zuljin down too

[urban moat]

Put wa sound on cd

[woven shore]

why tf do we have tyrinnical week 1 anyway

Tyraniccal

what

how do you spell that

[urban moat]

Boss stronger thingy

[amber brook]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[woven shore]

i know i mean how do i write that correctly

XD

[woeful wigeon]

bro teranical and fortifite isnt a thing anymore its all in one

[near meteor]

terrarianical

[woeful wigeon]

XD

[haughty flicker]

you only have both in like 10+

[urban moat]

Tyrannical

[haughty flicker]

below that its one or the other

[urban moat]

How i'll miss the tornado

Is what i would have sait if i was a psycopath

[arctic socket]

reclearing herioc

not bad so fare

(idk how tf to parse first boss)

[clever perch]

Which piece of tier set we dismiss?

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[rain mortar]

just do damage duh

[fickle girder]

Chest and get the one from Grim Batol, I believe

[clever perch]

the one from queen

in raid

[haughty flicker]

?

[fickle girder]

haste/mastery vs crit/mastery - sim yourself to see which one is better

[urban moat]

Ahhh men jokes

[distant monolith]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[novel star]

area 52 moment mid key

i'm gonna do it

for real this time

[haughty flicker]

dude

im transferring

[woven shore]

im in middle of a dungeo after a frustrating 30m run for nothing

[white orchid]

lol Area-52 crashed again on a 10% all alive prog pull

[woven shore]

and now blizzard

[haughty flicker]

i was only on this server for my guild

[novel star]

literally same this shit is ridiculous LMAO

[woven shore]

turns off area52

[haughty flicker]

and im not in that guild anymore

fuck this

[woven shore]

during a run

what the fuck

[urban moat]

Whats area52

[haughty flicker]

a shitstain

[woven shore]

😡

im fucking mad

fucking game

nothing but fucking problems

since 3 weeks

fucking blizzard

[haughty flicker]

im finding a server where i can have my name

[woven shore]

whatever

[novel star]

might transfer to malganis to take the * away from the guild under my name

[woven shore]

im done for today

[novel star]

and escape area52 hell

[heavy blaze]

is hero shard of azzinoth any good without secondary stats?

[novel star]

my tag isnt taken on literally any server i think

cus its just a reference to a kinda obscure song

so

i can move anywhere its just annoying im too broke for this

[woven shore]

funny thing is

i just dc'd on the run

where the trinket wouldve dropped

so i cant enjoy the game

thats the whole thing about for sure

[haughty flicker]

i had finally found a good pug

and then server goes down

[cobalt sphinx]

if you do a 5 with someone who has no key

do they get a 4? or a 2

[woven shore]

2

MAYBE 3 ? if speed runned

idk

why is my game updating rn `???

😵‍💫

[haughty flicker]

blizzard pushed the hotfix to delete a52

[novel star]

based

[woven shore]

XDDDDDD

[urban moat]

It did this this evening during the raid for a lot of ppl, dc then wierd update then waiting

[woven shore]

if they do imma suo these fuckers

[novel star]

hey guys area52 is back up whered everyone go haha

[woven shore]

praying

they are doing without me

pls pls pls pls pls pls pls

[delicate trench]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[novel star]

ur cooked get back in queue bud

[woven shore]

ppppppppppppppppplssssssssssssssss

[delicate trench]

!macro

[woven shore]

1%

chance

😉

[urban moat]

1% is 100%

[woven shore]

and now server down again

cause shit not loading

[velvet ridge]

you guys liking bleed or hybrid more rn?

[woven shore]

hybrid

[woven shore]

different story

xDD

so nice of them

left me inside so i can clear it

[balmy condor]

Aktualisier mal meine Nüsse in dein Mund alter

[novel star]

hybrid for me fs cus i mostly pug but prolly depends how geared and good ur party is

[balmy condor]

[woven shore]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

[woven shore]

Wenn du mir das Scheiße verfickte "Schmuck" gibst
Sharing is caring

[severe condor]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[woeful wigeon]

question on mutlok i see Worshipper's Poniard

can find in where it from on wowhead

cant

[sudden jasper]

RIP A52

[balmy condor]

[woven shore]

wait im inside

sadly

[balmy condor]

Selbst is der Mann

[woven shore]

i wish server was down

so i can go watch anime

im fucking addicted

[sudden jasper]

u will most likely get d/c soon lol

[flat kindle]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[woven shore]

motivation enough to stop

[steep gust]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[frail escarp]

i plan on crafting the dagger and waist but only have 1 free enchanted runed harbringer crest from the campaign - should i raise wep or belt to 619?

[woven shore]

wep ofc

[edgy trellis]

cant we remove embellishment by recrafting ?

[woven shore]

yes

scroll down

theres this Powder thing

[edgy trellis]

oh

thats its use

ty

[woven shore]

np

[real pike]

!energy

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[cyan summit]

What’s a good plater ?

[real pike]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

• For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[cyan summit]

!player

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[sage tapir]

does double dawnthread not stack? i have both and i still only am getting 756 crit

[haughty flicker]

need to go below 80%

[winged basin]

drop below 80% heal up

[balmy condor]

!dawnthread

[prisma monolith]

Dawnthread has the same bug as Blue Silk Lining from Dragonflight where it fails to stack.
In order to fix it and trigger your second Dawnthread, take damage to drop under 80% health, then heal back up.

[agile inlet]

o/ whats the best M+ enchant? still authority of depths? if so whats the cheap version for broke peeps like me ❤️

[balmy condor]

Radiant is better in m+, depths is a single target enchant

[ivory flower]

The mastery weapon enchant isnt worth for both raid and mm+ ?

[timid vale]

I used the mastery one till i got real daggers

But theres no real reason to enchant below champiom track imo

[balmy condor]

Anything not named authority radiant or authority of depths is bad

[timid thistle]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[faint quartz]

@balmy condor Hiya. Have you got any plans on writing up a guide on Delves? I'm getting my ass whooped 😘

[woeful wigeon]

any of you from NA server ?

got a weird one foryou

[urban moat]

Fr i just go in there and hope brann aggro the mobs while i slow them

[balmy condor]

!delve

[prisma monolith]

Soloing Delves is really hard currently. Some solutions:

• Do them with a tank+healer in a 3 man. This seems to be lenient on scaling
• Go outlaw/subtlety with trickster, take the 1 hour tricks of the trade talent, cast tricks on brann (I personally put brann on my focus and use /cast [@focus] Tricks of the Trade)
• For objective/pickup object based delves, you can sap/aoe blind, pick up the item, then vanish. This is slow but will get the job done most of the time
• Put Netflix on your second monitor or something while you wait for your 2min cooldowns to come back up so you can pull another 3 pack of mobs, 2 of which are sapped/blinded, you’re in for a long delve

[faint quartz]

Oh no 😦

[balmy condor]

Can do the same on assa

Just tricks him do a pull

Wait

Tricks him

Do a pull

Unless you’re overgearing them or have like a level 30+ brann they’re brutal

[tired gull]

Don’t flame me cause not pink but I had a decent normal night I feel

[night summit]

do i want to macro DM and KB together?

[winged basin]

I wouldn't, got a shiv in the middle of those 2 abilities unless you arent running lightweight shiv

[unique heart]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/bleeding-hollow/mancimoney

can anyone look at my logs and lmk what to do better

[night summit]

DM shiv then KB?

[honest needle]

i got 616 legs and hands tier from vault i still dont kno what spec is my main ill be playing both. should i take hands to be safe since outlaw crafts there legs

[arctic tusk]

im on my mage split

[winged basin]

yes, unless you are not running lightweight, then shiv is slightly delayed

[winged basin]

THAT IS TOUGH

literally weapon geared a outlaw and sin rogue in that one kill

[balmy condor]

Not pink lmao shitter

[honest needle]

any suggestions ?

[gusty mirage]

wtf that's toxic

[balmy condor]

What are you doing here you don’t even play the game

[novel star]

i bet im not gna upgrade a single parse on normal night this week

[gusty mirage]

im doing ur mom

[novel star]

so fucking BAD im such a PIG

[gusty mirage]

im your new step dad

[novel star]

i just had the most upsetting +4 man why are gamers the way that they are

a +4 and ur being annoying

for what

[worn wagon]

I'm trying to find the current best single target dps spec, and mythic + spec but i can't seem to find the updated spec

[novel star]

press defensive and freelo

[cerulean walrus]

Nah man

Let the rage consume you

[novel star]

need my guildies to log back on so bad

[gusty mirage]

@cerulean walrus ily

[cerulean walrus]

I love you too oxi

[balmy condor]

Thank god, she’s a nice lady

[cerulean walrus]

[balmy condor]

Frost dk and frost dk :3

Idk man play what you’re good at

[gusty mirage]

I just ate a crayon, can I give you a hot take

[wicked obsidian]

@balmy condor what poisons do i use?

[balmy condor]

Wound and crippling

[worn wagon]

oh, sorry i meant which assassination talents are best for single target, and mythic + packs

[balmy condor]

Oh

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[novel star]

just pug to play with shit players so you can have fraudulent top dps every pull

[balmy condor]

Should be front page

[tidal coyote]

is outlaw still broken?

[balmy condor]

2% worse than before

[cerulean walrus]

Yeah they broke both legs and have to wear wooden sticks now

[winged basin]

100% running this on brood, if i get sat its on you

[cerulean walrus]

And their pistol misfires half of the time

[tidal coyote]

its like top parse right?

[balmy condor]

Yeah but they have no burst

So like

That’s the payoff

[tired gull]

🧑‍🦽

[cerulean walrus]

Their damage curve is flatter than my ass

[balmy condor]

Liar

[novel star]

thats why i play sin

[cerulean walrus]

Only Whispyr knows how caked up I am frfr

[novel star]

my fat beautiful behind lines up w the dps graph

on occasion

[cerulean walrus]

The clapping of my asscheeks is alerting the mods

[novel star]

deadass

cmon dawg

i alrdy got that shit man

let me win one time

[balmy condor]

CHAMP TRACK

AAAA

[umbral pike]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

BOZO

[novel star]

whispyr im gonna do something permanent

[cerulean walrus]

LAUGH AT THIS BOZO

[novel star]

please

[cerulean walrus]

CHAMPION

CHAMPYUN

[novel star]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/130926715772862464/1021565133157314610/esports.gif

[balmy condor]

Put me in the note with hearts around it

[novel star]

ofc babycakes

[hallow pelican]

Anyone know if daggers are in the T8 delve loot table?

everyone seems to be getting MH and OH shit from delves in my guild except me

[balmy condor]

Yep

They are

[hallow pelican]

so daggers for me in WW are gonna be like those fucking mage bracers from BfA ....awesome

[distant halo]

@balmy condor are there any special green text items that we want as sin?

[hallow pelican]

the cloak, ring and necklace from palace I believe

[eager tree]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax is roughly on par with whetstones and are free. Some caveats:

• Right now having wax applied to your offhand does nothing. Make sure you apply wax first, then apply your whetstone
• The quickest way to farm for wax is pickpocketing the kobolds in front of darkflame cleft
• If you have no idea what any of this is, you need to start the questline with "Brax's Brass Knuckles", then walk into the inn and talk to the vent to start "Go Take Candle". Once you complete the short questline, you can pickpocket wax from the kobolds

[cyan summit]

!addons

[distant halo]

Ty

[slate crown]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[wise plume]

tier piece drops from sikran, highest roll is 22
rolls 1

[umbral pike]

Im practicing on the dummy in dorn and this was 5 minutes of practicing my rotation, is this bad for a five minute?

[haughty flicker]

@balmy condor mr whipy what do i drop for ct on brood

from just wowhead ds st

[exotic hearth]

Do we have a special cleave build for court or just have caustic?

[ripe carbon]

u can sim urself unbuffed/whatever consumeables u use and select training dummy and it can give idea?

[junior aurora]

u drop ct for frostwyrms fury actually

[mellow sun]

wtf is this

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/out-of-line-anthony-mackie-sam-wilson-falcon-the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-gif-21182970

[hallow pelican]

threat was a thing in Outland

[mellow sun]

casual 40k dps loss ayy

[junior aurora]

wdym

[haughty flicker]

just gonna drop vv how bad can it be

[junior aurora]

it saves you on crests

[haughty flicker]

i dont have time to sim so fuck it we do it live

[junior aurora]

to upgrade another trinket

[mellow sun]

big brain

[hallow pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/bill-o-reilly-fuck-it-live-do-it-live-gif-4280622

[haughty flicker]

ok first pull the tank was third highest dps

maybe this group isnt going to kill

[distant halo]

I see that wrists and waist is for our embellishments. Are we alright to use a spark on those too since the only other guide is to use spark on a piece that you won’t upgrade for a while?

[gentle apex]

#assassination success story

I died on 6 and 8 but still

Very pogchampion

[queen olive]

show us some ilvl parses champ

[inland escarp]

Sound like hater

[balmy condor]

VV but do you want the omega cook

[haughty flicker]

always

also glad i guessed right

[balmy condor]

If your spiders/worms last long enough

That’s the pizza I left in the oven too long

[slate crown]

🚫

[haughty flicker]

sending it

[uncut arch]

Does anyone have the tricks to party lead macro? Mine isnt working and I wanted to see if mine is wrong.

[balmy condor]

Let me know how it goes, I haven’t found anyone brave enough to test it for me

[haughty flicker]

lmao

[balmy condor]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[uncut arch]

ty

[sudden phoenix]

!spec

[prisma monolith]

All Specs are good and have niches and strengths that they play to. All three specs are looking viable with Assassination/Subtlety being preferred in raids. Mythic+ meta has not solidified yet but Assassination looked promising during beta.

Be aware that Simulations are a tool to be used to compare things like talents/gear/rotations, they are not the definite answer to what is meta or not meta. While outlaw is ahead in sims right now, especially dungeonslice, you have to take a step back and realize these are synthetic/generic situations that we use as a baseline. Dungeonslice has always been a great showing for outlaw simply due to the fight style matching well with the spec. This is not unusual or unheard of.

You can view logs of the raid when it comes out Here, or view the mythic+ run leaderboard Here.

[sudden phoenix]

!talents

Derp

[slate crown]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[slate crown]

Guides are updated with various talent loadouts

[sudden phoenix]

Was just seeing if the talents have changed in the past week how there is more data out there

[gentle apex]

Don't I have to go into the individual logs for that?

[zenith axle]

question, if i wanted to craft gear to satisfy playing all three specs which would be best to craft?

or satisfy like two, like outlaw and assassination or outlaw and sub

[scarlet wyvern]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[haughty flicker]

i got meleed to death by spiders and the group immediately fell apart

testing inconclusive

[scarlet wyvern]

atm is the best to craft 636 dagger right?

[zenith axle]

regardless of which spec u run dagger is generally best?

[scarlet wyvern]

Assa

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-hmm-pepehmm-table-council-gif-16396395487368552941

[zenith axle]

i thought that is if you dont get any dagger drops?

[scarlet wyvern]

i got 616 regicide only

and 606 regicide

[clever perch]

Do you guys think we could replace subt in raid for assa?

[random violet]

Confused about stat prio, is it master or crit after agility

[scarlet wyvern]

should i keep those 2 daggers or craft 636 right away? Not rlly sure and dont wanna waste a spark

[slate crown]

!stats our stats are all basically equal

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[zenith axle]

i got lfr regicide

[lyric marlin]

I sold a heroic regicide for 500k. I think it was worth 😛

The dude I sold it to was fuckin smashing otherwise I woulda kept it

[scarlet wyvern]

500k is not that much^^

i guess ill craft the dagger then

[fossil shell]

is dungeon slice good now for simming? or what is best option?

[lucid silo]

we got madness of the betrayer from timewalking boys

[raven egret]

4p, 611.4ilvl. Aight, so far so good this season!

[shut oak]

hello everyone, just about to craft a 619 item. Is Dawnthread Lining really good? my dagger is only 603 so I am considering crafting the 619 Dagger with the Darkmoon SIgil:Ascension. Any advice?

[raven egret]

all embelishments are mid at best, its just a matter of picking your preference

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[raven egret]

read the above

I personally went Dawnthread as I prefer the flexibility of it

[shut oak]

Ah ok I see thanks very much for the info I appreciate it

[balmy condor]

[zenith axle]

if i want to play assassination and sub or asssa and outlaw is it better to craft 2x dawnthread>=?

[balmy condor]

I’m so tempted to just craft Dawnthread instead but my second spark is a dagger anyway

[balmy condor]

Yeah just go Dawnthread

I think my third spark is belt and I swap Dawnthread

Maybe

Copium

[zenith axle]

is it better to try and mix stats so like verse mastery on wrist and haste crit on belt? or just focus on high stats for one spec on each craft

[umbral pike]

its just normal but I got my first orange parse finally

[crimson wigeon]

Are there any known good assassination m+ and/or raid players? I wanna watch some vods to hopefully glean some insight on where i can improve

[umbral pike]

cough @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

Assa doesn’t really care much

[raven egret]

None, we are all terrible

[crimson wigeon]

i review logs but sometimes I want the video itself, not the timeline

[balmy condor]

Chill chill I ain’t that giga

[umbral pike]

Then why do I watch your videos and read your guides

[crimson wigeon]

mainly trying to improve m+. I was checking logs and my caustic splatter is definitely lower than most others

[balmy condor]

I am number monkey

[gray olive]

i just have the lucky of two regicides, i got both... i can use two regicides or i need to follow the guides? wowhead say regicide + blood kukri

[balmy condor]

Do not have the time to also run 12 hours of keys a day like the r1 pushers

[umbral pike]

sim it

[balmy condor]

Daggers are whatever just equip whatever is highest

[crimson wigeon]

bot weeks ive lost heroic regicide im on suicide watch. I hate trialing for guilds. basically burns your loot lockout.

i wish i heroic raided then raided with trial but they raid so soon after reset theres no time

[hallow pelican]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax is roughly on par with whetstones and are free. Some caveats:

• Right now having wax applied to your offhand does nothing. Make sure you apply wax first, then apply your whetstone
• The quickest way to farm for wax is pickpocketing the kobolds in front of darkflame cleft
• If you have no idea what any of this is, you need to start the questline with "Brax's Brass Knuckles", then walk into the inn and talk to the vent to start "Go Take Candle". Once you complete the short questline, you can pickpocket wax from the kobolds

[balmy condor]

Wowhead bis picks one of each cause I don’t want people target farming double of the same dagger for no reason

[paper chasm]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[gray olive]

make sense omg

[balmy condor]

I have to do some very targeted gaslighting in order for people that stare at the bis list to not fuck themselves over

[shut oak]

Honestly Ascension seems really good. You only have to be in combat for 8 seconds and you get 2000 of a secondary stat, and it stacks every 8 seconds after that

[arctic socket]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gjFf2SzbqT37EEUyQFYKJX

Someone with premium

[raven egret]

I like how whisp makes the bis list cause it encourages people subtly into diversifying their gear sources, I'm so sick of hearing people 'These are not my BiS boots!' like, dude, just... don't

[arctic socket]

please re do that and see if i missed something

[willow cloud]

gfg you can't use jeweler's settings on rings from the timewalking raid quest turn in

[balmy condor]

Yeh it just resets out of combat so it plummets in m+

[crimson wigeon]

im so close to ripping a 619 dagger. but that seems like such a waste of runed crests

[arctic socket]

craft one

with ascension

[crimson wigeon]

only at 5 gilded tho 😦

[scarlet wyvern]

atm farming gilded crests only myth raid and +9 right?

[crimson wigeon]

im m+ player so will be playing double lining

[novel star]

why does the fucking seasonal affix cuck stealth man

did they test this at all

[crimson wigeon]

last 2 bosses heroic, 9+, mythic

[arctic socket]

ascension is better for m+

[runic hinge]

Not enough rogue players to test

[novel star]

like

[scarlet wyvern]

sadge

[novel star]

aoe blind doesn’t work and it breaks stealth

[shut oak]

Yeah it stays for 15 seconds but I guess it will drop off a lot in M+

[celest helm]

every single guide says that double stats is better for m+ that i read

[novel star]

i’m gonna lose it

[shut oak]

this is a tough decision cuz its so expensive lol

[arctic socket]

im wrong then

[celest helm]

i could be wrong too dont get me wrong but im fairly sure Whispyr was jsut saying it drops out of combat so in m+ you lose the value out of it quite often

[raven egret]

its not really that much of a hard decision, embelish are not a very big impact on the grand scheme of things

[arctic socket]

if someone doesn't mind redoing this and see better rnehcnats ❤️

[crimson wigeon]

80% uptime in my most recent +8

i guess if anything, radiance would probably be better on some bosses in high m+, but worse in trash

[shut oak]

Youre talking about Ascension?

[crimson wigeon]

dawnthread

[tough gorge]

Siege of Boralus sucks.

[fallen moss]

any tips on ovinax with caustic? not doing something right... top logs show low casts on mut. are we holding for adds with max energy?

[slim compass]

Are the wowhead talent builds still current?

[crimson wigeon]

yes to what im aware of

[crimson wigeon]

fan of knives, hope ads come into melee or your team brings them in melee

you'll just mutilate boss or target ad for caustic

[raven egret]

ovinax for us is basically entirely dependent on your raid giving you favorable conditions, and letting you cleave off the boss on the adds

[crimson wigeon]

the crafting gear is definitely expensive. Gold and crest wise

[raven egret]

can can shred that fight more than many others if conditions are met

[dapper fractal]

soo out of all the mobs in mist, only one can be CCed?

harvest essence?

[shut oak]

Yeah i think ill just go dawnthread for the flexability

and its way cheaper lol

[tulip idol]

hey i got 2 questions,

1. why are the top 10 assa rogue's on raider.io going for 15-25% vers when it says it's the less needed stat? (most ppl have 4-6 vers gems) or is it just a m+ thing?
2. incase i have all gem slots + 1 on head, so 7. What Gems should i prefer? i have Culminating Blasphemite on my neck, and it says, i get 0.15% crit effect per unique Gem colour, so shouldnt it be BiS to have 1 blue gem, 1 red gem, 1 green gem, and fill the rest with Stats i need? ( i dont count stamina gem )

[haughty flicker]

there is a sylvanas rper from moonguard in my heroic kyveza group

this is going to be interesting

[somber hill]

!shiv

should i be building up to 2 charges of shiv when my deathmark is on its awey back up?

[shy pecan]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote is roughly 10-12% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon
• While Without a Trace can allow for better vanish timings, the difference in damage provided is at most replacing a non-stealth opener with a stealth opener (you aren't necessarily getting "added" casts, just "better" casts)
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[somber hill]

anyone ?

or like only use during kb?

[cursive plaza]

Does embellishment recommendation change if playing fatebound for any reason?

[runic hinge]

Only use shiv for kb

[somber hill]

ok cool ty

so just back to back chain it always in kb windows?

[grand sentinel]

what do ppl usually take when they opt out of crimson tempest in caustic build?

[runic hinge]

Yes

[random belfry]

are fatebound and deathstalker stillr eally close numbers wise?

[toxic zephyr]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[split grail]

Question about the queens mandate: Since it has a small channel time should we pop it before we deathmark as opposed to right after

[real pike]

it's ok to craft a ring if we get lucky with other slots and have low ilvl rings right?

[haughty flicker]

yo joining discord in pugs is so hype

rl just flaming everyone

[hallow pelican]

why dont tanks study pathing anymore?

its liek they have to hit 100% before the first boss

[acoustic roost]

its day 2 bro

[upper wraith]

what stats to put on crafted dagger?

[hallow pelican]

Fatebound or Deathstalker?

FB crit mast DS haste mast

[raven egret]

Whatever stats Sims tell you to

[raven egret]

Its always ok to craft low ilvl unlucky slots. Provided you have an actual use for the item

[real pike]

smashing thanks for the reassurance!

[umbral pike]

so is the kingsbane rotation just getting 7 point envenoms as fast as possible?

[royal python]

Crit haste for fatebound

[subtle imp]

i forget did last DF set give energy

i feel so starved on my alt

[shut oak]

Yeah what are people doing after the opener and you use all 3 of your thistle teas? You just run out of energy so fast.

[south lava]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[gritty gazelle]

Why do alot of rogues take tricks of the trade at higher keys?

[runic hinge]

!Design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[runic hinge]

I’m gonna guess so they can help gather for the tank with garrote silence

[gritty gazelle]

Ah makes sense

[half tartan]

do you guys shadowstep the grip on transition on queen ansurek

or is it too risky

[timid stratus]

whispyr was doing it the other day

it did fail once

but it mostly worked

[keen spruce]

normally just depends on the comp you're running, the pulls you're doing, and the stops needed for a dungeon.

If you're cycling AoE stops, the DR from AoE blind generally doesn't get much value. Casts going off at high keys are going to kill everyone anyways, so the only real value of blackjack is reducing melee damage on tanks. If that isn't needed, the help in gathering with tricks tends to just be a better option

[haughty flicker]

the ret paladin in this group is insisting details is wrong

and that they're actually pumping

[keen spruce]

[haughty flicker]

this group is doing princess mechanics really well

but they just dont do any damage

keep hitting enrage

unlucky

[whole sand]

i respect it

[keen spruce]

is it a tight enrage on heroic?

[haughty flicker]

well

[keen spruce]

that fight looks fun

[haughty flicker]

this is the bottom of the group

[keen spruce]

ig week 2 pug

[whole sand]

ohno

[keen spruce]

no dmg

[haughty flicker]

the guy above the tanks is not an aug or pres

[keen spruce]

[haughty flicker]

also no dh, war, or druid

so its fucking cursed

[whole sand]

you gotta escape

that ain't happening

[keen spruce]

how many kyveza pugs are you gonna find

[haughty flicker]

im not exactly pumping either

[keen spruce]

[haughty flicker]

im only doing 700k

[keen spruce]

do more dmg

[whole sand]

enrage is like 7 mins~ if i recall

[keen spruce]

[haughty flicker]

and yeah thats the issue

hard enough finding a kyveza pug

harder still to find one that can do mechanics

[keen spruce]

but yeah group leads need to yeet

if you're not beating a tank

[haughty flicker]

the pally is group leads guildie he brought in

so uh

xd

[whole sand]

ah

[keen spruce]

anyone logging

[whole sand]

the classico

leak the logs

[keen spruce]

I wanna see what the pala is pressing

or more realistically not pressing

[whole sand]

i bet the timeline spells hekili

[keen spruce]

as bad as hekilli is

I think if you actually did waht it said

you'd beat a blood dk

[haughty flicker]

i start logging

[keen spruce]

[haughty flicker]

we find out

[whole sand]

oh shit

[keen spruce]

and we can roast bel while we're at it

[whole sand]

we're in

[haughty flicker]

maybe i learn something

i cant talk shit if i cant take it

although i hate praying every kb that i dont get picked to run out

[whole sand]

im ngl i went sub on our attempts

fuck the parrying on that boss

[haughty flicker]

if i could play sub i think i could

UDDE

HE FUCKING GOT ME

i cant tell what direction the boss is facing with all the shit

got parried twice so far on kb

[whole sand]

im saying

[spice spire]

Real

[whole sand]

boss needs be like double the size

[haughty flicker]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/k8xztcCJn9Vmwrv4

idk how posting live logs works

maybe that works idk

[wise plume]

99 parse

go outside

[haughty flicker]

brother that pull was like 10 seconds long

[wise plume]

oh

[haughty flicker]

lmao

[wise plume]

nvm keep goin

oh i clicked on the wrong log

[haughty flicker]

first one was the closest to kill

so prob most relevant

i dont think our pally friend was there for that one though

[wise plume]

i mean he's barely out-damaging the tanks

[haughty flicker]

hes going through it

[sudden brook]

Dude

It's so crazy how bad sin is

But these fights are soooo good for sin

Sin kingdom baby

[wise plume]

i wish our energy regen was a lil better

either that or im pushing buttons too frequently- but I feel like im out of energy the first minute and a half of a pull

[sudden brook]

Thats assa baby

[wise plume]

yea it's kind of brutal

give me my shadow dance back

[shut oak]

it def feels bad a lot of the time

you watch a warrior continually press buttons without ever stopping and then youre waiting for energy so you can press 1 single button lol

[sudden brook]

I mean that's just how the spec works right

[wise plume]

yeah it's kinda nuts, but at the same time, if we play it right, the warr is still below us most of the time

[whole sand]

(nah)

[wise plume]

ive yet to come across a warr out damage me in a single target pull

(that i can remember)

[shut oak]

they just got a big nerf this week though

[wise plume]

it was only 3%, but theyre still cooking

[raven egret]

To me it just feels bad we can't burst as high as other classes on openers or elsewhere anymore, we still do ok to good damage, but for a burst spec we ain't as bursty XD

[wise plume]

yea ele sham and frost dk opener is actually insane

[turbid crest]

Heya have a small question

On aoe assa , do you Tornado + spam

Or, do you envenom

[haughty flicker]

ct doesnt do any instant damage, its all dot

so you just use it once to apply it

then use envenom cleave with caustic spatter

[turbid crest]

Okok

and on wich target

how many target needed

to use

Tempest

to funnel with envenom

[haughty flicker]

afaik ct is used even on 2t

then you hit prio target

[turbid crest]

nah i mean

How many target to use this into envenom

instead of

[whole sand]

3

[turbid crest]

Ok thanks a lot

is the passif of dagger ilidan

is big or not

[wise plume]

trash

paperweight almost

I’d rather take a champ dagger over it

[whole sand]

did they get it into the sims

[wise plume]

I’ve no idea

[whole sand]

when i last checked it wasn't triggering the passive

[wise plume]

all I know is it routinely does 0.3-0.5% of my overall

[turbid crest]

my dagger went from 564 to 610

big happy x)

[chrome compass]

Am I doing something wrong? Everytime I sim embellishments it says that double Elemental Focusing Lens on ring and neck is the best. Is that true?

[haughty flicker]

i think its mentioned on wowhead guide that lens sims well at low ilvl but doesnt scale as well as the other options

[shy marten]

can you start a dungeon with snd up?

[chrome compass]

I'm simming it at 619 ilvl and my overall is like 610

[fallen arch]

Yes

[polar cape]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[haughty flicker]

i hate paladins

[fair robin]

I'm having a problem with using blind. I press it and nothing happens. It doesn't tell me anything, no error message, it just doesn't go on CD and doesn't cast

[keen spruce]

i went to make food my b

standby

[haughty flicker]

its ok

we've been busy explaining to the paladin which way left is

[meager plank]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[keen spruce]

kyveza pure single ye?

[haughty flicker]

ye

[keen spruce]

well

mr paladin used 6/10 possible wake of ashes

and has no enchants

or flasks

or pots

or food

and is 600 ilvl

[fiery vapor]

can i have 2 of these?

or its better have 1 of the deeps

[ripe carbon]

i thought that was best for m+ and depths best for raid?

[raw cedar]

The !craft message is now different from the !fuu spreadsheet, any guidance there?

[keen spruce]

my man

is playing templar

[raw cedar]

dawnthread vs lens

[keen spruce]

[haughty flicker]

huge

[keen spruce]

the highest templar parse for his ilvl

is over 200k dps behind

the highest herald

[turbid crest]

Hey can some1 link me a log with this talents pls ? ( ST )

[keen spruce]

but otherwise idk wtf paladins do

and their logs look weird and hard to read

[keen spruce]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/j3hx2gJ7qazdL9vF#fight=27&type=casts&source=30&view=timeline

[turbid crest]

wich one for ST ?

first yeah ?

[umbral pike]

Im slowly gettin there

[turbid crest]

second for aoe ?

[keen spruce]

unelss something has changed you always take deadlly

[fair robin]

Great job man, glad you are getting more comfortable with assassin

[elder dome]

Is there info or a discussion anywhere on why airborne irritant doesn't work on the affix this week?

[haughty flicker]

welp

tonight was not my night

unlucky

[keen spruce]

nice orange

[haughty flicker]

ive got to be doing something significantly wrong

i need to get someone to look at these later

[keen spruce]

me look

which one should I look at

[haughty flicker]

uh

probably just one of the lower ones

first one and last one probably best actually

i caught myself a couple times doing things out of order but i feel like that isnt enough to explain my damage being ass

so any help would be appreciated

[haughty flicker]

yeah uh

[keen spruce]

[haughty flicker]

its not good

i had a darkmoon deck yesterday ok

[keen spruce]

[haughty flicker]

it did 2%

kind of pumping

[hardy venture]

!crafting

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[keen spruce]

u didn't vanish

[haughty flicker]

ye

from what i understand its bugged and you cant reapply mark with ambush there right now

and im using vv instead of ig

[green bolt]

is the shard of azzinoth comparable to a dagger with stats?

[keen spruce]

oh woop

this guy i'm comparing to

had IG

nvm

[wise plume]

no

shard is hot dogshit