assassination

[balmy condor]

but now we don't

[novel star]

i didnt play @ that point

[balmy condor]

so the timeline is just an empty nonsense wa

[novel star]

[lime crypt]

now it just shows icon

[novel star]

idk i like having a big fat shiv

that glows at me when im playing bad

and doesnt glow when i do it properly

[spice spire]

This is my first tier using kingsbane so it’s helping me

Even though your wa highlights when no shiv in kb

[thorn crater]

i assume we hold both shiv charges for KB right

[balmy condor]

this doesn't look right

[thorn crater]

and dont use it without it

[spice spire]

Yes

[novel star]

yes

[spice spire]

Correct

[lime crypt]

i just pressed kb and shiv

with nothing else

[novel star]

i mean thats just telling you where you can tea without overcapping right

[lime crypt]

i guess although it never shows till i use shiv

[novel star]

also i see that fat fucking shiv icon

it does track shiv outside of the line thing

[lime crypt]

it tracks everything

[novel star]

just ignore the line then idk

press shiv so it doesnt hit 0

[lime crypt]

lisonna is a fkin G with that weakaura

[timber vessel]

Lisonna is a g

[lime crypt]

yeah im just a bit dented

[balmy condor]

brother I don't give missives to craft and it still comes back crit/mast

[lime crypt]

what years of outlaw do to a man

[balmy condor]

I'm gonna have to start using missives to avoid crit/mast

what is this shit

[flint tusk]

Gigachad

[novel star]

cope

[unique stream]

mind if I dm you whispyr?

[novel star]

man why is caffeine just opposite sometimes

[fickle lotus]

post it here coward

[radiant shadow]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[novel star]

i feel sleepier after this monster than i did before it

[flint tusk]

It's because for the last 2 years the universe has heard you say crit mastery

[lime crypt]

same

[balmy condor]

sure

[lime crypt]

but i fceel like a corpse when i dont use one

[balmy condor]

oli monster tier list rn

[lime crypt]

so its either bad or worse

[unique stream]

It's hard for me to understand everything that's happening here

[velvet vault]

!UP

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[safe patrol]

not killing nexus hc before sunday and stuck with 610 main hand until then and gonna slam m+, would it be cringe to send 45 crests on it? got crafted dagger 606 but not sure if I will get 60 mythic crests within the next days

[cerulean walrus]

I may or may not be slamming back Red Bull again

[vagrant plover]

does anyone have a weakaura for Treacherous

[cerulean walrus]

@balmy condor I’ll have you know bud that if you cracked open a Red Bull you’d have gotten that 99 on Ovinax

[safe patrol]

planning to use free hc crest on my crafted waist

[cerulean walrus]

But you didnt

[thorn crater]

can i get some advice on what to pick on the catalyst? shoulder upgrade is slightly worse on raidbots than trinket so im not sure. only have 2p, shoulder is BoW one, trinkets currently are arakara 606 and the momentum one

[cerulean walrus]

My brother

[wise plume]

simulationcraft

[cerulean walrus]

Screenshot

[thorn crater]

i

did

sim it

[balmy condor]

yeah for sure that and not this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1285853322040836106/image.png?ex=66ec7079&is=66eb1ef9&hm=8472988303f3678f34808ec0f7d52943288c69e3da60a127091b036652b46ba9&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=796&height=258

[thorn crater]

hence me saying slightly worse

[cerulean walrus]

Never not funny

[haughty flicker]

has anyone had a weird issue with hearth cast being canceled when you leave group

or like randomly like 2 seconds after

[cerulean walrus]

The master padders

Not letting us funnel

[violet jackal]

yes

[thorn crater]

your brother needs advice. strongly considering coin angle

[wise plume]

i really enjoy using coin over dm

[novel star]

S - Ultra rosa => ultra gold > ultra watermelon > original
A - zero ultra = orange dreamsicle > ultra sunrise > ultra peachy keen
B - ultra paradise > ultra strawbery dreams > ultra blue > ultra fiesta mango
F -
Hell -
Cancer -
Super F - ultra red

thats all ive had

[wise plume]

like yeah it sims lower, but i dont feel that in gameplay

[cerulean walrus]

Kind of based

I have to admit

[novel star]

ultra red is actually poison

[fluid pumice]

@balmy condor would you ever do individual guides for dungeons? or is that just a lot to ask?

[royal lantern]

crit/mastery is crafting bis confirmed

noted

[balmy condor]

original in S is fucking insane imo, that shit is B or C, rest is based

[novel star]

yeah i havent had one in a long time

[cerulean walrus]

Jokes on you bozo I crafted Crit/Mastery anyway

[novel star]

so it was kind of a wildcard

[balmy condor]

might be an idea to fluff out the content

[novel star]

i just put it in there cause it seemed safe

but ive never really had the urge to buy one in forever

i think id put it at strawberry or blue tier

[cerulean walrus]

Original is a banger tbh

What are your thoughts on Java monster

[novel star]

cant be above paradise

i like them

caramel > mocha > vanillabean

i think theres more flavours in the states idk but thats all we have here

[cerulean walrus]

Oli is to monster as I am to Taco Bell

[royal lantern]

spending most of your time shitting it out again?

[cerulean walrus]

I’m back on my Red Bull shit though so I guess I’m fucked

[fluid pumice]

Just curious, you do such a good job explaining things in the guides, would be great to have your opinion on how to handle each encounter/dungeon boss. Was trying to do a 9 earlier and it was rough :(.

[cerulean walrus]

Anyone that has issues after eating Taco Bell has a weak stomach

Imagine taking that big of an L

[royal lantern]

mate, im in germany, i dont even think taco bell exists here

[cerulean walrus]

Probably not

[balmy condor]

wasn't something I had planned, no

but yeah

9's are brutal atm

[cerulean walrus]

Yeah you just gave him the pad content

[novel star]

idk

[cerulean walrus]

[novel star]

do mechanics and then step back to the boss

[balmy condor]

I did a couple 7's but not in time yesterday

was insane

have had internet outages today

[royal lantern]

necrotic wake 3rd boss is overtuned as hell

like

jesus

[novel star]

shocker!

isp fuck two days in a row never ever happens

[balmy condor]

comcast sending me a text about outages in my area

[royal lantern]

if you dont kill it with spears, its GG, even on a +7

[balmy condor]

while I'm sitting in an outage for 30 min

my keyboard is going through the fucking drywall

[cerulean walrus]

Can you throw me through the drywall instead?

[royal lantern]

keys above +7 are a bigtime "wait for the nerf shotgun" angle

[strange python]

😂 eventually got it down though

[cerulean walrus]

117

[shy pecan]

You know what's fun? Doing that boss, the hook is about to happen, then the things spawn and the hook stops on them

[balmy condor]

there's gotta be

a better way

to present all this loot to me

[royal lantern]

no

[balmy condor]

instead of flooding my entire screen

perhaps like a window

[royal lantern]

get a bigger screen

[balmy condor]

dedicated to the loot you get

[cerulean walrus]

Nah man

Nah

[languid tide]

yeah giving you only one item

[cerulean walrus]

Larger monitor

[balmy condor]

like some sort of maybe

self-contained window

[cerulean walrus]

No

[balmy condor]

that they could use

for loot

from enemies and chests

[cerulean walrus]

More junk on the screen

Please

[royal lantern]

my m+ experience was

[balmy condor]

the amount of sand in this expansion is insane

[royal lantern]

try 3 keys with randoms->absolute total shitshow cus people legit dont move out of cleaves and circles

[cerulean walrus]

The amount of crabs in this expansion man

Idk

[royal lantern]

and then did all keys on 5-7 with guildmates for KSM tier token

and now wait for the m+ nerfs before going higher lol

[honest needle]

!weakaura

[royal lantern]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

no like inventory sand

[cerulean walrus]

Ah yes

[balmy condor]

just random junk

[dusky tide]

Shard of Azzinoth is good?

[balmy condor]

it gets everywhere

you don't want it

[cerulean walrus]

It’s coarse

[balmy condor]

you're stuck with it

forever

[cerulean walrus]

And rough

[dusky tide]

just droped in tw bt

[balmy condor]

you're finding it days later

it's just sand

[harsh anchor]

It’s rather exfoliating though

[cerulean walrus]

It’s certainly a dagger

I’ve still got Jeb’s Underwear in my bank

[wise plume]

honestly, not really, I would prefer having stats instead of the equip effect

[cerulean walrus]

Kinda fucked up tbh

[fickle girder]

From a quest chest...

[wise plume]

just did a +7 mists, and shard did 0.3% of my overall

[novel star]

yeah i was about to say people posted details breakdowns earlier of it doing like .3

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/freakbob-gif-11176155028712317218

[dusky tide]

yeah no stats

[novel star]

in key

[balmy condor]

yes hello

[novel star]

its prety bad

[balmy condor]

I would like to make a deposit

[cerulean walrus]

Lmao

[novel star]

i mean

its like cope ok if you have a piss dagger i guess

[wise plume]

i got shard from illidan, and then hero shard from cache, like bruh

[novel star]

but its not good

[cerulean walrus]

Jeb is never getting his underwear back

[balmy condor]

roll into the bank "hi, I'm just depositing this pair of underwear"

[novel star]

i should do timewalking anyway for Fun

[cerulean walrus]

Yeah

[wise plume]

its deff harder than it was in DF lmao

[cerulean walrus]

What are they gonna do? Question me?

[novel star]

or i should send 27 fucking grim batols in a row to try to get skardyns from the chest

[tired gull]

Whispyr you can make a deposit in me

[novel star]

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[cerulean walrus]

Open up my bank.

NOW

[balmy condor]

just put the underwear in the bank bro

[tired gull]

But only if @spice spire can watch

[balmy condor]

[novel star]

my chest trinket luck is gonna be so fucked man

i got hero sacbrood from first arakara of the season

[crisp pine]

Whispyr having a meltdown

[balmy condor]

you wild for that

[novel star]

[wise plume]

im just coping hard that we started with tyran this week

[cerulean walrus]

Well

Yeah

[indigo mulch]

bruh just give me that extra 1.7k dps 😦

[cerulean walrus]

Just swap to Mechagnome for it

You won’t

You don’t have the balls for it

[balmy condor]

swap your input text to orc

no one will notice

[indigo mulch]

lmao

[novel star]

why mechagnome

when theyre a belf

stay horde

orc

[faint path]

timewalking?

[indigo mulch]

ezclap

[novel star]

BASED

[nocturne crater]

anyone have the loot upgrade track?

[cerulean walrus]

Huge

[fickle girder]

yeah the timewalking quest

[balmy condor]

don't ask questions you don't want answers to loverboy

[cerulean walrus]

That’s right

[cerulean walrus]

I’m just out here mekkajorquing it

And by it

Ahah

[novel star]

tell me about those little metal feet

[sullen hearth]

we love gnomes

[cerulean walrus]

I mean my piston

[novel star]

i fucking hate gnomes holy shit

they're so fucking ugly

fuck

pisses me off

to look at their stupid eyes

[cerulean walrus]

I hate gnomes too

[gloomy otter]

why does mechagnome more dmg?

[cerulean walrus]

That’s why I don’t play one

[zealous wolf]

Is it normal to get alot of misses/parry(es?) in raids? Sometimes attacks like envenom or rupture jus straight up miss, they dont use up combo points

[crisp stream]

!crafto

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[balmy condor]

cause blizzard for some reason decided that races should provide damage

[cerulean walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/mechagnome-gif-18097900

[novel star]

why do they get the best racial in the game

nobody knows

[balmy condor]

oh shit don't hurt em unc

[spark edge]

Hello, I have a question, is it worth crafting the Siphoning Stiletto weapon?

[balmy condor]

fuck

no

[novel star]

no its bad

[balmy condor]

hell

no

giga

no

[novel star]

relax man WRELAX

[cerulean walrus]

LMAO

[novel star]

RELAX MAN

CALM DOWN

FUCK

[spark edge]

damm

[crisp stream]

HIYAA

[cerulean walrus]

WHISPYR HONEY

Count to ten

[limber lion]

proud of my boys

I retire and they push higher

🫡

[shy pecan]

Advance

[cerulean walrus]

[woven torrent]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[dusty zenith]

what kind of builds are you guys running for mythic+? Im not a fan of sudden demise> doesnt seem to do alot of damage

[crisp stream]

Ascension on dagger and dawnthread on wrist works for both content?

[novel star]

i mean the higher the key goes the more sudden demise value is gonna be hidden right

the 10% extra bleed damage passive isnt shown on details

unless im buggin

just the execute

[cerulean walrus]

Pretty sure the bleed passive is attributed to the actual abilities

[dusty zenith]

ya I was doing a 5 and sudden demise on the logs was 700k

[cerulean walrus]

And the sudden demise shown is just the execute

[subtle tundra]

how could that be lol

[spice spire]

[novel star]

well itd just show as a 10% higher rup/gar/ct damage right

i mean "hidden" as far as like

looking at details and literally seeing the line that says sudden demise

will be a lower overall%

[subtle tundra]

my brain is cooked whatever

[spice spire]

Wrong @ whatever

[novel star]

me too dw

[fickle lotus]

was running sudden demise on some 7 and 8's today and it felt fine

[novel star]

10% extra bleed damage sounds prty good 2 me !

dno what else u would take for that point

[limber lion]

And sims don't even take SD into account

It literally only counts the 10% bleed

[fickle lotus]

i just got 4pc so hopefully it bumps up the dmg more

[limber lion]

Yeah by like 2%

Big

[fickle lotus]

[novel star]

waiting for cool tiersets again

havoc auto glaive throw was so sick

[balmy condor]

you know what else grinds my gears

[fickle lotus]

game is all about incremental increases i'll fucking jork it for 2% increase

[novel star]

your dirty little mechagnome gears

[balmy condor]

all those dumb mfers spamming wax

[novel star]

go on

[balmy condor]

week 1

I just had to forcibly upgrade some champ track nonsense

to get rid of my flightstones

cause I'm omega capped

what the hell is wrong with you degenerates

[fickle lotus]

RWF affecting us plebs once again shaking my damn head

[cerulean walrus]

Actually a banger

Pin worthy tbh

[novel star]

wax just gives fuck all now right

[balmy condor]

I literally cannot spend enough flightstones

and I farmed 0 wax

who the fuck thought they needed to waste their life farming wax week 1

don't procreate

[cerulean walrus]

Dumbasses

[arctic tusk]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[cerulean walrus]

Who think they’re better than they actually are

[novel star]

i just wanted the gold

[fickle lotus]

Wax is pretty good as a gold farm cause of the tinderboxes

[cerulean walrus]

[balmy condor]

that's fine but people were stockpiling it for flightstones man

how dumb do you have to be

to stockpile wax for flightstones

[novel star]

stockpiling it was insane yeah

i got my 2k cap and then just stopped mostly

tinderbox rng aids

rather click grass

[minor tiger]

so, is the illidan dagger worth using upgraded to 619? if so as main or off-hand?

[shy pecan]

People do the weirdest shit

[brittle quail]

hey whispyr ! whats the tier set part we want the most ?

[hollow mantle]

so if i dont have any craft yet the go to is 2x Dawnthread?

[balmy condor]

neither

[shy pecan]

Damn, beat me to it. But don’t do it.

[brittle quail]

on more like the one we don't want / less want

[balmy condor]

all of them as long as it's 4 set, chest is probably the weakest but still fine

[minor tiger]

so its shit?

[balmy condor]

yeah, dawnthread as an all-around

[balmy condor]

yes

[brittle quail]

k ty

[minor tiger]

oke

[balmy condor]

timewalking drops are shit

[minor tiger]

shame

[dusty zenith]

Whispyr do you need a snickers?

[cerulean walrus]

What you mean you don’t want gear with the goofiest stats and effects imaginable from 15 years ago?

Come on man

[shy pecan]

Just grab a hero piece for an upgrade if that

[balmy condor]

the alternative is far worse

when they first added timewalking they tuned everything to be comparable to current bis

[vast finch]

lol i did almost top dps in all my raids and rl said it's easy cause you'r S-tier rogue

imagine rogues being S

[balmy condor]

and it just caused people to either RNG into the good drops in that one week

or you're shit out of luck

[limber lion]

Court of Stars dungeon spam :3

[balmy condor]

so since then they've just giga nerfed every timewalking drop

[limber lion]

gotta clear the schedule to do 110 court of stars in a single week

[balmy condor]

until it's basically on par with high end normal/low end heroic

[shy pecan]

If your RL is referring specs as S-tier…

[minor tiger]

what alternative?

[balmy condor]

based

[balmy condor]

having drops be worth

[minor tiger]

ooh

[spice spire]

Why are you tiering specs mister Edward

[spice spire]

[cerulean walrus]

Can we get an RH balls tier list?

Quakes are huge

So that’s a massive S tier right there

Here’s a wheelbarrow for your massive nuts sirrah

[balmy condor]

yeah but they're not round

form over function

[spice spire]

#assassination message

[balmy condor]

too late

already seen em

[spice spire]

HUH

[cerulean compass]

Hey guys, is it better to upgrade craft with crest or pieces like weapons ? 🤔 (In case we're getting every bis gear)

[shy pecan]

You wish I could tier you

[spice spire]

You do a few log reviews and mfs wanting nut pics

[spice spire]

F tier

Did it for you

[shy pecan]

I was gonna put you C for average but…

[novel star]

i did top dps and my rl said nothing because she seems pretty based and just doesnt care

[balmy condor]

well if you're trying for bis you'd only craft your two embellishments

crafted gear is -3 ilvl

[shy pecan]

I guess I can move you down on my Rh tier list

[cerulean compass]

Yep but if I already crafted like bot ? 🤔

[crisp stream]

How long does it take for the logs to reflect?

[cerulean compass]

Like last week I mean

[novel star]

only gives people shoutouts for doing mechanics well

[vast finch]

it happened cause i asked for pi,and she said like reaching top dps with pi isn't cool. and i said lol i'm already doing 99s and being top 1-3 everytime without pi cmon

[balmy condor]

well if you already crafted your two pieces, you craft them to 636

[novel star]

i mean

[balmy condor]

and then rest of your crests go to upgrading to 639

[cerulean compass]

Hmm I see thanks a lot ! 😄

[novel star]

putting pi on whoever gets the most value from it is generally best

[cerulean compass]

I crafted boots instead of belt

[novel star]

we are a kinda low prio pi target

[cerulean compass]

shame on me

[novel star]

theres classes that double our pi value

or more

[balmy condor]

oh no

boots instead of belt

[opal oyster]

Can someone help me please? Should I get 616 normal chest or 603 legs tier set piece?

[balmy condor]

now you'll never be bis!

[balmy condor]

champ track bad hero track good

[novel star]

oh nooooooooo you have to get a different belt at the same ilvl that gives you 0.2% worse stats

[vast finch]

yeah,but if someone presses buttons wrong or die on pull pi gives less)

[novel star]

youre FUCKED YOURE FUCKED

[vast finch]

coocked

[novel star]

ok sure but did u say that or did u ask for pi because u were parsin

[vast finch]

it's like those guys who are: oh no they nerfed outlaw by 2% TIME TO SWAP FAST

[cerulean compass]

Does it change really something ?

[balmy condor]

Unironically not sure it’s even that much

[novel star]

yeah i was gonna say .1

[balmy condor]

No I’m being sarcastic

[vast finch]

nah i was just wondering

[novel star]

yeh idk pi is weird

if someone else gets pi and is still under your dps that doesnt mean pi would be better on you lol

you have to compare no pi to no pi

and then add the % pi gives them which is not great for us

[pastel quiver]

Does this seem correct? This is on a delve boss. I feel like my Kingsbane dmg should be higher

[vast finch]

i don't really care i just keked from answer that rogue is S tier and that's why i'm on top of the riad

[novel star]

yeh thats def funny

but also giving you shit for asking for an ego pi is based

so

[opal oyster]

Thank you ! Also thank you very much for your great videos, helped me alot!

[novel star]

[balmy condor]

Are you playing vicious venoms

[vast finch]

based

[lavish hazel]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[pastel quiver]

quick talent search shows I am not. I'm running the icyveins deathstalker devles build

[balmy condor]

I was getting PI in normal week 1 without knowing and I asked the priest why and they just went “idk macro”

[novel star]

LMFAO

[balmy condor]

Then yeah, bit low maybe

[torpid sleet]

that has to be rare

[novel star]

yeah idk man i havent raided in a long time so maybe i just dont have the mental but i really dont care if i get pi or not

im parsing regardless and care more about the boss kill than my number being higher

[vast finch]

on prev week second priest ruined my 100 with second pi. i asked him not to give it to me

[cerulean compass]

Hehee I was like wtf 😄

[novel star]

it wont change the cool parse number on wcl i think

just the details number

who 🅱️ares

[balmy condor]

I didn’t even notice until I opened log rankings and saw I had pi in the rankings

[novel star]

lmao

[wise plume]

it's trash

[novel star]

where do u checky

[balmy condor]

Like boss rankings

There’s an external buff

On the far right

[spice spire]

You can also check buffs in logs

[balmy condor]

Ye you could

But I have no reason to go there

[torpid sleet]

sims pretty bad yea

[spice spire]

Ur so real for that

[spice spire]

It’s also bad fr

[novel star]

but i have to click to extra pages to see myself on the rankings and then ill get sad

[spice spire]

0.3 damage from cantrip GAMING

[slate robin]

Does my damage distribution seem OK? Or am I doing something obviously wrong? (Mists +7)

[wise plume]

it replaced a veteran dagger, so i'm just coping with it

[spice spire]

Wait whispyr. You think we get timewalking sod next tier and get edge of night again?

[balmy condor]

Bleeds seem real low

[balmy condor]

No

[spice spire]

Next xpac*

Damn

[torpid sleet]

you have the same?

[balmy condor]

Shadowlands timewalking ain’t happening

[slate robin]

I will try focus more on them then, thanks - Really struggling to get good dmg

[wise plume]

yeah, I got champ shard from illidan and hero shard from cache, I got smoked

[zinc frost]

you take that back right now

[torpid sleet]

thats crazy

[spice spire]

I will not

[torpid sleet]

if it had stats it would be good

[novel star]

can you like filter wcl to show only no pi parses

[limber lion]

Yes

[spice spire]

Yes

[winged widget]

it most definitely is.
get ready for the "shadowlands wasn't so bad" pink-colored glasses comments when it does

[novel star]

where at

[spice spire]

Externals > off

[novel star]

im such a dog with this website bro

omg ty im blind

[limber lion]

np

[novel star]

nothing changed

[clever sapphire]

what in the rogue happened in this illidan only lobby

[dim estuary]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[novel star]

shard is so bis

[spice spire]

Saw a familiar name going through logs

[clever sapphire]

shard?

[novel star]

of azzinoth

dogshit dagger

[wise plume]

worse than dogshit

[clever sapphire]

ah

[novel star]

ye idk exclude externals isnt doin anything on wcl 4 me

[clever sapphire]

wait is that the gamer varas in my group

[novel star]

Pog Champ

[clever sapphire]

or is that an imitation

@subtle tundra did i just snipe your illidan group

[spice spire]

Imitation

[clever sapphire]

ah

[spice spire]

Varas is EU

[clever sapphire]

unlucky

so am i

[spice spire]

And draenor- EU iirc

[subtle tundra]

omg

[spice spire]

Oh wait

[subtle tundra]

if theres a varas-draenor

that is ME

[spice spire]

When you said illidan only group

[clever sapphire]

bro i dont know names okay?

[spice spire]

I thought you meant the realm

[novel star]

bro

[subtle tundra]

im doing for the HC LOOT

[subtle tundra]

did you know in 6 hc runs, 2 of which i did on rogue
2 runs got 0 hc daggers
all the others got hc daggers

guess which i was on

impossible challenge

[south osprey]

GUYS SRY

which is better?

[clever sapphire]

610 cause of higher ilvl

[novel star]

sim it ideally but prolly just ilvl yeah

[subtle tundra]

bubblying

[clever sapphire]

wait bubblying doesnt scale

[subtle tundra]

yep

[ashen rover]

2nd is hero track

[subtle tundra]

only place i top dps

[fickle lotus]

neither does beledar's bounty food

[cinder quartz]

bubbling doesn't scale but it also doesn't proc

[clever sapphire]

better bubbling proc wins i guess

[subtle tundra]

TAKE THE L

[clever sapphire]

i just got wax gapped

[bitter saddle]

I saw it proc today

[wild hound]

Hey finally got some logs after raiding today, any pointers from you more experienced rogues? ❤️ Trying to see where I can improve! Here's Sikran for pure ST but theres also some aoe bosses. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7pBvZXgKCAjhwbm8#type=damage-done&source=73&fight=50

[clever sapphire]

you even got their compliments

[subtle tundra]

they are unaware

[clever sapphire]

well i took another L

my whole gear is 606 or 590 besides my 616 hands

[spice spire]

How so

[clever sapphire]

i got 610 hands

[spice spire]

Ah

[clever sapphire]

from the quest

[spice spire]

L bozo

[clever sapphire]

straight to vendor spec

[queen egret]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[subtle tundra]

i got a whole 4 ilvl belt upgrade

huge

[clever sapphire]

deserved after that crazy dps

[cinder quartz]

massive

4 ilvl cloak upgrade

[clever sapphire]

ah well, first time i saw someone from rogue discord so thats a W atleast

[novel star]

where even is the tw quest

like the good one for hero track

[clever sapphire]

shattrah

[novel star]

not the stupid dungeon one

ok

[clever sapphire]

but just queue into the skip runs and they share the quest

[novel star]

surely

[clever sapphire]

hasnt been worth on 2 of my chars

so im not doin it anymore

[frigid pilot]

damn

every1 and their mothers crafted mh dagger

[haughty flicker]

early dagger stronk

[wide sand]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[frail tendon]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[clever sapphire]

i didnt (got lucky and got dagger from bloodbound hc)

[wise plume]

has anyone used coinflipper in higher keys here?

[clever sapphire]

according to warcraftlogs, yes

[clever sapphire]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/39#class=Rogue&spec=Assassination&heroTree=52

there, all assa keys with fatebound

[royal lantern]

ye same

got a heroic raid dagger and just made wrist+belt

[clever sapphire]

i didnt craft anything yet

im a lazy fecker

[static glacier]

@balmy condor thoughts on ds vs fatebound on a fight by fight basis? Been having mixed results, feels like it’s rng which one wins

[subtle tundra]

im pretty sure its ds

[static glacier]

I think ds has clear advantages but also issues

[balmy condor]

ds is probably better/less rng

but as long as people keep fucking up the mark because of skill issues

fatebound probably better

[cobalt sphinx]

SIN ON PROG

SIN LIVES

[balmy condor]

but fatebound is also a huge rng fiesta

[static glacier]

In today’s hc clear I only fucked up mark on court, the rest went well

I think ds pulls ahead specifically in aoe

The crit on FoK / funnel talent aren’t really competed against by FB

Brood would be where I think fb loses hardest

[turbid crest]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[cobalt sphinx]

imexile is SPATTERMAXXING

[static glacier]

I do suspect sub just beats sin tbh

Got tier so will be testing it more

[haughty flicker]

exile is a ct doubter

unlucky

[turbid crest]

What do you craft for assa M+ / RAID

[haughty flicker]

he changed it just as i said that

[turbid crest]

wrist/belt but

[haughty flicker]

exile is a believer confirmed

[clever sapphire]

ye wanted to say

[turbid crest]

1 stats focus 900 or 450/450 ?

[proven current]

does anyone know why when I link an item in chat, my message wont send?

[slate crown]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[slate crown]

!stats exact stats aren't really important

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[cerulean compass]

What's going to be the next craft for y'all ? 🤔

[slate crown]

I haven't even crafted once

[haughty flicker]

whatevers lowest ilvl prob

[cerulean compass]

True OG never craft

[slate crown]

Don't know, maybe hero dagger

[cerulean compass]

Yep I guess it will be that for me too

the bel messages

mb*

[shy pecan]

Same. Still haven’t crafted a thing

[slate crown]

I just haven't gotten around to it

it wasn't part of some grand crafting strategy

[wooden flare]

i made omen belt and wrists, unclear on when im meant to recraft

[fluid pumice]

shame. Can't even use it 😦

[clever sapphire]

whenever you feel like it

[void pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/conan-o-brien-clap-slow-clap-thumbs-up-sarcasm-gif-5618417

[verbal plover]

Do we use dungeon slice to sim for m+?

[fluid pumice]

take it with a grain of salt from my understanding

[fluid pumice]

it turned into a rank one shard.. shame

[cinder parrot]

What's the best talent build for silken court?

[normal mist]

Okay so my guild finally did a 8/8 Grun

then we went to kill the 1st boss in hc and i parsed pretty well... my GM "yo royal you parsed 97"

then i see this shit

2nd priest decided to ALSO pi me

[real granite]

do we have insight on what a m+ bis gear could be?

[royal lantern]

[fluid pumice]

Ok so, I can do well on every other boss in the 85-95 range on EVERYTHING except silken. What talents are you running?

[normal mist]

ST + caustic

xD

[fluid pumice]

My positioning just must be dogshit

Or I'm playing that fight so bad

I get like 75 on that shit

[clear nexus]

Are you on webs orr

[royal lantern]

dogshit

75

holy mother of humblebrag

[fluid pumice]

50-50

[fluid pumice]

when you compare that to the amount of people who care

that's like bottom 1%

[royal lantern]

"im only doing more dmg then 75% of people playing that spec on this Fight:("

[royal lantern]

yeha, those guys are idiots

[clear nexus]

Well..

[royal lantern]

and dont know how it works

[clear nexus]

A lot of people play this game you know

[royal lantern]

reminds me of the time where i killed mythic sark early on and got a 34 parse

i was #21 assa

[clear nexus]

Thats a weird brag

[fluid pumice]

i'm also 611 ilvl, i shouldn't be that low

inless i'm playing bad

[clear nexus]

You call him out for humble brag then dump that shit

[royal lantern]

nah its just how pointless that number is in the end

[novel star]

CRIT!!!! BIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[royal lantern]

parses are a meme

[novel star]

i think this dagger actually has the ugliest model in teh game

its so bad

[clear nexus]

On phone can you show

[royal lantern]

and chasing them is often kinda stupid

[royal lantern]

no crit/mastery, its crap

grab that 148gold right now

[novel star]

fuckin real

[buoyant steeple]

whats better the sac or the spyglass? im a lil confused bc on bloodmallet sac is stronger idk

[wise plume]

it is the ugliest dagger

[dense verge]

yo guys quick question my bro droped seal of poioned pact in nm is it a big upgrade for me or should he take it as a resto sham ?

[royal lantern]

the passive trinket doesnt matter

you want the grimbatol mastery trinket+any decent passive one

[buoyant steeple]

ah nice ty 🙂

[spice spire]

Spider boss ring?

It’s pretty good. Cantrip effect on a statted item

Naturally it’s decent

[dense verge]

okey thanks !

[wanton mortar]

authority of dephts is kinda meh on m+ right?

compared to radiant

[normal mist]

kinda yea

[agile kestrel]

why does this trinket sim like shit? it's got like 40% uptime?

[lean plover]

is poison damage the same as nature dmg? asking bc of tier

[cobalt sphinx]

Do sims show 40% or are you just saying anecdotally

[urban moat]

Is airborne irritant bugged ? I feel like Blind doesn't aoe cut on the affix orbs ?????

[royal lantern]

randomproc 2k crit rating is not really good

[cobalt sphinx]

I don’t think it should be very different from anubikkaj trinket

[agile kestrel]

Details shows 60% uptime in keys overall. hitting raid dummy it's got 40% uptime. I'm just wondering why it's so bad when as its written it should be better than shadow-binding ritual knife or sacbrood, mainly because it's a pretty good stat-stick with mainstat

I guess I just don't understand stat weights enough

[fluid pumice]

yes

[novel star]

wow gutys. is this Bis?

I think my bis in slot weapon just freaking dropped.

Im freaking out

holy cow!

[lean plover]

ah so it increases caustic and envenom, ty

[novel star]

bis in slot hHAAHH

[lean plover]

and mutilate with the talent

[novel star]

what a cock man

timewalking hella worth kappachungus

[lean plover]

wasnt shard of azzinoth nerfed and no longer a mega bis?

[novel star]

yes im joking its garbage

[tired gull]

they're meming

[wise plume]

yeah its pretty worthless

[cobalt sphinx]

It isn’t implemented in sims

[kindred elm]

I swear I’ve seen this too. I think if you cast it on them it does only the 1 but if there’s a normal mob in the middle of them and you cast on it the talent works

[cobalt sphinx]

You might have to engage them all in combat before blind works

[novel star]

its piss based on real gameplay tho lol

[urban moat]

that's so weird

[spice surge]

Everytime it shows up

[urban moat]

hope it's a bug and not intended

[spice surge]

Its either absolute dogshit, or its very op and get changed to be dogshit within a week

(shard of azinoth that is)

[novel star]

yeah blind aoe only works when cleaving off a real enemy

for affix

prolly patched eventually cus makes no se nse

[kindred elm]

Yeah was annoying me too but we are beta testers so can’t expect to much

[cobalt sphinx]

does anyone have a log wtih shard of azzinoth

i'm curious to see how much damage it is

[novel star]

multiple people gave the same 0.3% number independently

so prolly just that

[strange python]

This is like the firelands trinket

Matrix something

[novel star]

dont know if theres a log log tho

just details anecdotes

[fallow marsh]

During single target in single target spec do we still use fan of knives for clear the witness or do we mutilate due to vicious venoms being worth more

[novel star]

mutilate

[strange python]

Exile is using I think if I saw that correctly

[novel star]

only care about ctw when you have no vv

[fallow marsh]

Ty

[cobalt sphinx]

oh ok yeah it simmed -1.2% for me on equal ilvl so it is probably competitive with lower ilvl for some people with worse daggers

obv you should just craft a 619 if its an upgrade

[normal mist]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mwzthNhAnPmtHraMkznwQY im now part of the 1M gang boyssssss

[gusty mirage]

I’m proud of you

[haughty flicker]

damn

im not even close yet

[normal mist]

thanks

[gusty mirage]

You are in my heart

[haughty flicker]

[fluid pumice]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5LiykwjNsM2J3ubkb2s5bu

we're close

[frank ice]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5wo3fqgPbcjwDc87fmSEq3 im almost there

[fluid pumice]

if i actually properly enchanted i'd be fine

am poor

[normal mist]

i simmed with PI

[fluid pumice]

OH

let me do that

[normal mist]

because i actually get pi

[fluid pumice]

i could convince someone

[icy girder]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[haughty flicker]

oh hes a cheater

pi

[urban moat]

why are my melee damages on sim around 10% and 5% in game?

[analog hornet]

Are the Name from the Dagger and the Name from the Ability "Kingsbane" the same? I have Makroproblems 🤣

[frank ice]

consumables?

[haughty flicker]

if you're ds sim has hunt them down listed under melee

while its seperate in details

[royal mango]

4pc and double HC regicide. It's time to pump 😁

[urban moat]

ah that's it ty

[frank ice]

I just tried playing outlaw

I got stressed tf out

[haughty flicker]

i used to be ok at outlaw

then some time between shadowlands and df i just lost it entirely

[frank ice]

I need like someone to teach me that spec lmao i cant just learn it bymyself for some reason

[haughty flicker]

i got old ig

[balmy condor]

How would that work, /cast Kingsbane is ability only

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

Sims combined stuff, hit the drop down

[glacial crypt]

What are you cooking

[urban moat]

is there an estimated amount of damages that you remove from sims ST coresponding to bosses mechanict that makes u lose DPS ? Cuz i'm 150 000k down and wanna know if it's normal or a skill issue 🙂

[wanton mirage]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[glacial crypt]

Down from what? There are a ton of factors, don't overthink it

[cloud basin]

so if 4s drop ilevel 600 then since im like 605 i should be good doin 6+ right?

[slate crown]

lol I still have no tier

doing lfr

[novel star]

to see how close you are to your sim you should be simming target dummy instead of patchwerk and then smack a max hp dummy (not the raid trainer ones)

[slate crown]

pugs cannot do bloodbound

whoooly shit

[real granite]

do we know how a m+ bis gear would look like? I dare to guess its the same as st but dumping haste out, is it right?

[haughty flicker]

its wild

doesnt get any better in higher difficulties either

[analog hornet]

I dont know... when i User my makro (Shiv + Kingsbane)... the makro World like to use my dagger in my bag 🤣 the makro works all the time, but i get the dagger today and now its not working anymore 🥲

[half tartan]

is there anyone or a place i could post some gameplay for review, newish and im trying to learn 🙂

[novel star]

a shiv kingsbane macro should never have worked in the first place because both are on gcd no?

[analog hornet]

But i have to tell, is in a castsequence

[glacial crypt]

Exactly xd

[urban moat]

Sure, it's just that comparing with other assa rogues around the same ilvl i have up to 300 000k damage diff, seems huge.

[slate crown]

depends on what you mean by "worked"

And I suppose what you mean by "never"

[tall pelican]

instant or amphibian poison rogue? m+?

[glacial crypt]

Do you not have other keyrings? Having things on separate keys would give you a lot more freedom

[novel star]

i don’t even know what i mean

[balmy condor]

M+ “bis” is a weird concept cause like technically bis is just 0 haste 0 vers for aoe but then there’s like way more than just aoe and high level m+ people always take vers

[novel star]

i’m assuming it would use both shivs and then kb

[slate crown]

me neither

[novel star]

on the 3 clicks in a row

[indigo mulch]

Why would you even macro it in the first place? o_O; Is it really that annoying to click kb and shiv? O_o"

[novel star]

but fuck if i know

[glacial crypt]

Kill time, enchants, procs - tons of things, my 603 rogue has better logs from today than my 612 one^^

If you post a log we can see what potentially went wrong for you

[indigo mulch]

I'm just a normal logger :C

[novel star]

ye other people in the raid can make it die 30s slower/faster and end during your downtime instead of right after a burst window

[indigo mulch]

[novel star]

^

[indigo mulch]

Normal gamer.

[novel star]

need to go hard in my normal this weekend

[haughty flicker]

i have a petition to bring before the council

we need to delete evoker

not because of aug or anything

[novel star]

yeah

[haughty flicker]

but because there are too many people on our tier

fucking hell half these groups are on my tier

[indigo mulch]

Good thing our tier sucks.

Np

[urban moat]

https://fr.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4fP7h8CVzaKrMc1X#fight=5&type=damage-done&source=1

I think one thing is i tend to forget my cd so KB and deathmark get unsinc

[haughty flicker]

tier still better than no tier

and better than the 606 garbage im wearing

[analog hornet]

I just said that out of habit 🤣

And thats not the problem... why gave blizzard two different Things the same name? 🤣

[haughty flicker]

oh

this is a translation thing isnt it

[lusty mountain]

why is harvester's edict not proccing in dummy? 5min here

[haughty flicker]

the dagger is regicide in english

[thick sail]

@balmy condor Whisp, question for you regarding your WA set; I just read your rotational guide, and I'm wondering if there's a visual cue I'm missing on the WA that reminds me to cast Fan of Knives with Deathstalker to get the plague empowerment?

[haughty flicker]

so maybe in other language its translated the same way kingsbane is

[novel star]

it doesn’t exist if you have vicious venoms

because it’s irrelevant

[thick sail]

Oh, if I'm using VV it's not worth using FOK?

[novel star]

only shows if you don’t have the talent

[novel star]

yep

[thick sail]

Oh, I see!

[novel star]

vv mut simply better

get fucked whispyr i replied faster to your own ping

[thick sail]

That's good to know

My damage was mediocre yesterday in LFR and I'm trying to gauge if it's because my gear is bad or if my rotation is bad (or both I guess)

[glacial crypt]

DM me this, on my phone in bed rn and warcraftlogs mobile is god awful

Can look into it tomorrow at uni for you

[worn wagon]

VV?

[novel star]

vicious venoms

[glacial crypt]

Vicious venoms

[thick sail]

Can I just say

I am overjoyed that VV is useful

It's been bad for so long

[lusty mountain]

any idea bois?

[novel star]

dno it worked fine on dummy for me i think

i don’t really rnemebrr

that trinket is balls ass

[thick sail]

Are mutilate / ambush in any way calculated based on weapon damage like they were in the OG game or no? That leeching dagger with the massive damage range seems good but idk how it's calculated anymore

[tall pelican]

Instabt poisin in m+ or amp?

[thick sail]

Crafted siphoning dagger

or whatever it's called

[glacial crypt]

A blunder to be sure

[proud hornet]

is there a softcap with assa or should i just sim everything?

[novel star]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[glacial crypt]

Let the robot decide for you 🙏

[novel star]

sim

[thick sail]

No, I didn't craft that dagger, I'm just asking

What I actually crafted is much much much worse

[haughty flicker]

im so glad this copypasta is still around

[novel star]

Nah it’s ass

[glacial crypt]

Omg tell

[thick sail]

I don't even want to tell you, it's so unbelievably bad

Like beyond unbelievably bad

[glacial crypt]

The siphoning dagger will be good on farm but for prog it's dangerous

[novel star]

all daggers damage is da same at whatever ilvl i’m p sure

[glacial crypt]

INT DAGGER?

[proud hornet]

thanks guys

[novel star]

stiletto just steals embellishment slot for a bad effect

[snow harness]

If money wasn't an issue, am I wanting radiant power or auth or depths on my daggers? I see a lot of back and forth on this topic on whats better for mythics Vs. raid

[thick sail]

Ok not quite that bad

[mint valve]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[novel star]

depths raid, power m+

[urban moat]

How important is it to cast deathmark with KB + shiv ? And if mechanics makes u wait to use KB do u wait like 10sec with Deathmark up for KB + shiv CD ?

[thick sail]

I made this

[novel star]

power is okay in raid depths is not rly okay in m+

[thick sail]

and this lmao

Basically I think I'm doomed

[glacial crypt]

Just full send as much as possible unless you're assigned to hold CDs for a certain point

[novel star]

so i’m personally just gonna put power on everything forever cause i do both but

[glacial crypt]

Even if your cast is late, your next cast would have to make up for a potentially missed cast which never happens

Mechanics happen, if you plan ahead and know for a fact you won't get the time to make use of your CDs then hold

[cloud basin]

okay so, idk how to adjust the WA lol but it shows my combo point dots and its in the way of other things as well

[mint valve]

How much worse is crafting dagger + wrist in m+ than having double dawnthread??

[feral silo]

same question

[cloud basin]

figured id get a clip of it

[glacial crypt]

You can sim this and see for your own character specifically ^^

[urban moat]

I don't understand

[weak hemlock]

Hi, does Rupture tooltip info is wrong? When I am applying Rupture with 5 combo point its duration on the target is 28 sec instead of 24 as described in the ability's tooltip.

[glacial crypt]

Use your cooldowns together on cooldowns unless you know the boss is say, phasing or going immune

Unless I've misunderstood the question

[urban moat]

the issue is if i misused them (KB with deathmark) and they're not sync so Deathmark would be up with 10+ sec on KB, do i wait for KB ?

[wise plume]

make coinflipper as good as ds

[glacial crypt]

If it's only 10 seconds, yes

[vast loom]

@balmy condor on sub they recc9mend sending mandate with symbols or lingering darkness, does thus apply for sin too if you have it? (Sending under lingering darkness)

[glacial crypt]

I tend to not hold my CDs at all

Unless they're specifically assigned

[urban moat]

same but i've not been playing for long and i just forget to press KB

[glacial crypt]

You can have the weakaura pop up with a big icon when it comes off CD I'm sure, this'll help keep an eye on it - not entirely sure how to do that off the top of my head I'm afraid though ):

The more you play the better a feel for your CDs you'll get

Sitting on target dummies is good practice for everything rotationally

[urban moat]

Yeah i think i'll put a sound reminder

[haughty flicker]

i love pugs

[cobalt sphinx]

i like that

[glacial crypt]

Based raid leader

[modest gale]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[pulsar plank]

!consumables

[haughty flicker]

i swear pugging heroic wasnt this ass in df

[urban moat]

I'd die of boredom

[glacial crypt]

You think that until you start cooking

[uneven plume]

Can we freely spend runic crests on champ gear

[glacial crypt]

Then you realise it's silly unless a new build is coming out but there's lots of little interactions to learn about

[glacial crypt]

Are these the heroic ones? Runed harbinger

[normal mist]

Yeah

[glacial crypt]

I'd say hold off on using them until you've got hero pieces but if you're struggling the cap goes up each week, no harm

[haughty flicker]

runed is heroic ye

[normal mist]

Meanwhile I insta recrafted my boots and belt to 619

[glacial crypt]

Wouldn't craft with them unless you're on a throwaway alt though

[glacial crypt]

Oop

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-renéquiles-show-explosion-gif-18464266

[urban moat]

I'm starting to read logs and people are just so on point it's crazy

[snow harness]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sosTyEB3MUTiMQe4kAcVxJ What's holding me back? Is it mostly ilvl daggers and lack of enchantments?

[haughty flicker]

crafting with runed is only 15 crests less efficient than upgrading

[glacial crypt]

Yeah the spec is super optimised and a lot of us put too much time into learning it xd

[haughty flicker]

from m+ anyway

if you get a raid piece in that slot it can be more

[glacial crypt]

Less efficient

[haughty flicker]

but im pugging heroic and its not going well so not like i have anything to upgrade anyway

ez crafts

[glacial crypt]

Get ya asses some guilds!!

[haughty flicker]

guild died bc of tindral

and im lazy

[urban moat]

So much time learning it to get surpassed by overtuned specs ?

[haughty flicker]

so i'd rather complain about pugging in discord instead of app to guilds

[glacial crypt]

Comparing yourself to other specs is silly

I'm playing assa because I believe it has stronger potential with less gear and with the current raids bosses

[urban moat]

I have to, ego is why i want to get better

[glacial crypt]

Doing comparable damage to a 521 wind walker monk on a 603 assa rogue today felt good

[bright dew]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[glacial crypt]

A little ego is good

Too much is dangerous

[urban moat]

"boss deals less damages thanks to my poison"

[glacial crypt]

But if that drives you then go on captain blast

[glacial crypt]

Yeah maybe some copium

[spice spire]

[glacial crypt]

Sub is technically more pure ST but personally I don't see that happening in progress pulls where you lose uptime and things can just go wrong

Also getting the transmitter is bleh

Also execute value on assa mwah

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[glacial crypt]

What was the original point I'm yapping niw

[urban moat]

I've been playing assa for 1week only but the playstyle feels smooth even though the visuals are... aren't

[spice spire]

Blud that’s what this channel is Yap away

[cursive plaza]

are there simms for embelishment comparisons anywhere for end gear

[balmy condor]

No

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/trumpbidendebate-joebiden-trump-yapping-gif-18630555

[fickle lotus]

Exile is finally taking sanguine blades on brood thank god (he's still sinning by taking tempest in the first place tho)

[glacial crypt]

Oi oi oi ct on brood is the way

At least I'll be running it hehe

[balmy condor]

Yeh we’ve been talking about a bunch of stuff, sang got lost in convo lmao

[fickle lotus]

Especially if they're lusting on add spawns

[balmy condor]

CT is giga for him though we’re not dropping that