#assassination

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plush hazel
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I'm finding troubles finding my Deathstalker target in big packs, would someone know how to config this to be huge on plater, or have a weakaura to track the target?

crisp stream
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Our 4 set dps gain is too low, do you guys think there will be a buff?

normal mist
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Maybe, we don't know yet

normal mist
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BCS the nameplate is purple

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!wa

tired gull
normal mist
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S1 DF was like this as well

jaunty matrix
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i want them to always do that

errant night
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hello guys. which one of these 2 enchants is better overall? (m+, delves, raids) and should i even use it since i have only one 610 dagger (max 626-629)

jaunty matrix
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sets shouldn't be a big power gain

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most of the power should already be in the class

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and the set being a bonus

subtle tundra
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the intention was to be low

tacit wedge
subtle tundra
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the high ones are the outliers

jaunty matrix
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keep in mind depths is super expensive rn

royal lantern
errant night
royal lantern
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i know wow player cant read, but yeha

normal mist
errant night
tacit wedge
latent bluff
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is raidbot's apl updated for the new bug

tired gull
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Bring back artifacts

errant night
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radiant power is 29k and depths are 22k

jaunty matrix
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prices fell i see

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on raid release day depths was 50k

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iirc

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on the lowest rank

errant night
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holy

rotund oak
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im trying to farm the radiant power formula

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its basicly self torture

jaunty matrix
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so i went with radiant for the raid

errant night
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so should i buy one of these? i don't intend to go to mythic raids so i think 626-629 will be my max

rotund oak
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if u wanna do keys radiant power is better

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if u wanna do raids authohrity of depths

errant night
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what if i wanna do both haha

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and delves

rotund oak
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delves and m+ are basicly the same

spice spire
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Big delva

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Yeah

rotund oak
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and delves dont matter

spice spire
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I’d just say what are you going to do more

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And then spec into that

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Are you raising more or keying more

jaunty matrix
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"end game solo content" they said

spice spire
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Raiding even

errant night
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ah difficult

rotund oak
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specc into cooking bruh

jaunty matrix
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matters only for the first week of the season and its easier with groups

nova aspen
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depths until u got good parses and then radiant Coolgers

spice spire
errant night
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haha

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with early access

spice spire
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End game content that offers power will never have a winning formula. If too hard people will complain, if too easy, people will complains

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You have to make 500000 variables easier

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Or harder

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So

jaunty matrix
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make it easy and to drop mythic tier items

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so i can farm that instead of dealing with the apes in m+

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i just want to raid

spice spire
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Nah you gotta deal with me (I’m ape)

jaunty matrix
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but you're our ape blush_peepo_2

tired gull
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1mil sim when Cry

jaunty matrix
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sub once again the raid spec

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someone in blizz needs to pay for this

errant night
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hey, is simcraft gonna help to choose between these two enchants? i don't even think i need it now haha

grim jay
dry trail
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is it normal that I basically dont run out of energy?

errant night
jaunty matrix
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always energy starved

orchid adder
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is a higher ilvl dagger in MH always going to be the best option even if the secondaries are meh? I got a champion track dagger I can push higher than 606 but the stats aren't very good. Obviously it sims higher because higher ilvl but idk if its a waste of the crests

nova aspen
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
grim jay
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also you eventually wanna spend the crests anyways

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and the crest you got rn

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are rather useless

orchid adder
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yeah that makes sense. I know secondaries aren't as much of an issue but just feels tough committing runed harbingers to a weird dagger

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thanks fo the help

marble cradle
grim jay
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on 606 tho

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or just craft a 610 pvp dagger

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without crests

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you'll safe like 30 crests iirc short term

nova aspen
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i would wait for the vault tomorrow to see what u get

orchid adder
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yeah prob easier just to wait and see

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thanks lads

crisp stream
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is it possible to macro tea with any spell?

dry trail
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I feel global capped

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tbfh

crisp stream
nova aspen
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the only thing u would macro it with is shiv

grim jay
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thats bad aswell

nova aspen
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but its not good still

quiet oar
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but its not a good idea

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Tea is Off gcd afaik

errant night
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so simcraft recommends me to use depths enchant on raids talent build

grim jay
royal lantern
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depths sims slightly higher in ST

errant night
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ok then

royal lantern
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radiant power sslightly higher in aoe

eager tree
quiet oar
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No

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You dont

nova aspen
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ping the quake yes

quiet oar
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He aint in the Log review prison anymore

errant night
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but i'm not sure if i need this enchant now, maybe i'll get a better dagger in future 😦

nova aspen
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always ping the quake

grim jay
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yes you do, he told him to earlier

quiet oar
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He does !?

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He isn green anymore

shrewd night
grim jay
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hes back for the occasional review

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he said

quiet oar
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He refused to review my log

cursive frost
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I think radiant is a lot more versatile considering it’s still competitive in ST but much much better on multi target

cedar hare
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
grim jay
quiet oar
grim jay
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based

dawn kelp
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!ui

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!wa

kindred flare
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Anyone having issues in raid, while stealthed and shrouded, of being punched out of stealth by the boss when the tank pulls?

rotund oak
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dogfathers never refuse help

errant night
cursive frost
tacit hedge
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Is there a place or someone that does Parsec reviews? My percentage in raid is horrible compared to another Assa in the same raid and I'm not sure why after looking over it

errant night
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so should i use two sims, one for st, one for aoe

vocal minnow
sturdy stirrup
cursive frost
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You can run two sims, but you can also compare talent builds with different enchants using top gear

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But it will only be for one type of sim, patchwork, multitarget or slice

lavish brook
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Does anyone know of assa heroic kill vids? I'm away for work and want to take notes

errant night
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gonna wait for the great vault first, then choose what enchant to get.. 🙂

quiet oar
median igloo
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
spice spire
normal mist
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Where

brave swift
normal mist
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I wanna learn how to do it

shrewd night
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Ill thread you like a needle on god

brave swift
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On heroic, I had zero issues

normal mist
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Paulgerz log review

shrewd night
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Wait

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Why does it say royal made it

normal mist
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Because I'm too fast

shrewd night
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I think we should banana royal

normal mist
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YO

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But yesterday you said I was MVP 😦

shrewd night
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TODAY IS A NEW DAY

normal mist
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Based and fair

woeful vault
normal mist
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BUT now I can be a little bit more useful mister shiennar

shrewd night
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You are always useful

quiet oar
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Take me instead

twilit lagoon
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I almost spent that whole fight on the floor

thorn crater
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!plater

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!wa

shrewd night
grim jay
rotund oak
quiet oar
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I was killed so many time by koffing already

shrewd night
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uwu uwu uwu uwu uwu uwu

quiet oar
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and he pulled me back to live

rotund oak
quiet oar
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after several minutes

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im used to it

woeful vault
quiet oar
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Koffing cant scare me anymore

grim jay
quiet oar
shrewd night
twilit lagoon
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I think devs just hate rogues. I've been dealing with boss aggro since EverQuest circa 2k3

grim jay
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it works wonders

shrewd night
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Boss aggro is a certified player issue

west cove
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quick question regarding energy management, do we sit idle when energy starved to let it build back up with the aim of chaining envenoms?

prisma monolithBOT
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Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

  • For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
  • For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

rotund oak
grim jay
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even the minute switched

twilit lagoon
# grim jay did you try having real tanks

My favorite moment was one raid... Every boss immediately attacked me, so they made me stand at the raid entrance for the last pull. The boss ran through the whole zone, 1-tapped me, then ran back to the tank.

quiet oar
shrewd night
wide sand
grim jay
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kinda

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cant happen otherwise

wide sand
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getting first slap is an issue when boss gets into combat before it can hit tank (Dathea charged by prot war from too far) and if you are in range, even in stealth, you get clapped

twilit lagoon
wide sand
grim jay
twilit lagoon
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It's wonderful.

errant night
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!wax

prisma monolithBOT
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Bubbling Wax is roughly on par with whetstones and are free. Some caveats:

  • Right now having wax applied to your offhand does nothing. Make sure you apply wax first, then apply your whetstone
  • The quickest way to farm for wax is pickpocketing the kobolds in front of darkflame cleft
  • If you have no idea what any of this is, you need to start the questline with "Brax's Brass Knuckles", then walk into the inn and talk to the vent to start "Go Take Candle". Once you complete the short questline, you can pickpocket wax from the kobolds
wide sand
twilit lagoon
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Does Wax stop working after death?

wide sand
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nope

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its just like any weapon oil

spice surge
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Idk it did before

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Not sure if they fixed it

twilit lagoon
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I noticed on one boss I had zero wax damage, reapplied and it worked again

west cove
spice surge
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You can reapply your weapon too

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Like remove it and re-equip

quiet oar
west cove
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just want to check if I am missign something or should be approaching tings differently

quiet oar
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its jsut extremely random

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what i can say

eager tree
quiet oar
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thats why i stopped using it

twilit lagoon
coarse shuttle
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are y'all running sub in raid? thinking about doing that and sticking to sin for m+

shrewd night
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Bro is in assa chat

coarse shuttle
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not sure if the ER changes helped sin enough to be competitive

shrewd night
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Asking if they run sub

grave blade
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are we cooked bros?

shrewd night
coarse shuttle
worldly sail
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never pepe_chad

novel star
tranquil berry
novel star
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play for fun

coarse shuttle
novel star
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just do that on sin then

shrewd night
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BASED

quiet oar
primal quest
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how do we kill zekv

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damn him

shrewd night
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Talking about sane people

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Although to be fair

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Outlaw chat is worse

grave blade
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Assa rogue = Watching Cd's, lining up cd windows, pressing a konami code of buttons in sequence to maximize dps.

Fury Warr = press 2 buttons, drool (hurr durr). Max DPS.

tranquil berry
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life aint fair

royal lantern
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im just horny

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and somewhat stupid

shrewd night
royal lantern
grave blade
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and our 4 set tier is like 2% damage increase kekdog pepehands

worst tier set in game of all class/specs

primal quest
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can u solo zekv as assa?

grave blade
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So.. while we're kinda mid right now, we're about to be shit when everyone gets tier

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look how cooked we are.

shrewd night
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Is that the izen list?

deep wave
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guys, what kind of superhuman achievement should i put in the m0 description to get invited with 596 ilvl

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PHD in finance? a nobel nomination?

tranquil berry
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make ur own group

shrewd night
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Nothing, just do the inviting yourself

deep wave
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i always do that

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but why do i have to always do that im wondering

tranquil berry
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i dont get invited as 606

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just making my own

grave blade
deep wave
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lmfao

deep wave
dim estuary
coarse shuttle
grave blade
quiet oar
tranquil berry
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i believe we are good for m+ atleast

past forum
grave blade
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most classes are around a 5% damage increase with set. some as high as 13%. We get a 2%er.

novel star
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isnt it boring logging on to doompost

coarse shuttle
novel star
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do you get joy from this

grave blade
spice surge
dim estuary
grave blade
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Stirs the community, makes posts, then blizz sees and buffs us. kekdog

novel star
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just go fatebound and its 3%

tranquil berry
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that way we get wars nerfed

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and us buffed

marble hemlock
hexed matrix
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dont forget your WPM

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PMP

bitter saddle
hexed matrix
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LOL

grave blade
unique kettle
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how far behind is focusing lense vs ascension?

glacial crypt
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What are you after chickpea

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With that envenom command what's the info

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!pooling

prisma monolithBOT
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Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

  • For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
  • For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

glacial crypt
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He deleted the message and ran away 😭

gritty laurel
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lul just saw the updated wowhead tier list description for ass "Assassination Rogue players will tell you that restealths are the most important thing possible for their damage, but they are gaslighting."

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(no i don't care about the tier list, i just thought this was funny)

mellow rover
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guys, someone wants to buy my tier set token for 250k, good deal?

tranquil berry
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umm

grave blade
mellow rover
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kk, i'll do it

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cheers

slate crown
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Really just depends how desperate you are for gold

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It could be worth if you are very poor

mellow rover
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i have 700k roughly, but my rogue is alt and only has this tier token from this week

glacial crypt
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You can easily get 4set on alts later, take the gold and run tbh

slate crown
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I wouldn’t but I don’t have gold problems and I also play sub a bunch and sub’s tier set is not trash, it’s quite strong

glacial crypt
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That's higher than the cut you'd get from an unsaved normal boost rn

slate crown
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And this is my main

crimson crest
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Sin and outlaw are pretty close in performance for dunegons right?

spring moat
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❤️ tempest kiting trash lol

grave blade
slate crown
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Outlaw doesn’t have iron wire suskaygeagreegebusiness

clear nexus
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even if better, are they close

grave blade
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assasin poops all over outlaw in m+

clear nexus
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ok

grave blade
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better prio, 6 second aoe silence, etc.

normal mist
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How can you tell?

grave blade
real granite
real granite
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invaluable

crimson crest
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thanks for the insight

thorn crater
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bruh i have the same version of whispyr's WA, on one pc it tracks the delve trinkets on the other it doesnt

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im so confused lmfao

royal lantern
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did you

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like

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ssee the absurd dmg outlaw does

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all the time

grave blade
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doesnt matter

royal lantern
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ye sure omegalul

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and the fact that outlaw doessnt suck balls on boss fightss

tired gull
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(note: if you're not pushing ultra high keys it really won't matter that much, first couple of weeks the utility will be great because difficulty will exist)

royal lantern
grave blade
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assass better prior damage and aoe silence. Outlaw rogue is fine in low keys, not fine in high keys.

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damage isnt everything.

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prio*

royal lantern
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what the hell

hexed matrix
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lmao

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bro

tired gull
royal lantern
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dmg is literally the only thing that matters

hexed matrix
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tryan dmg is not everything in high keys

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nah dude

royal lantern
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except in extremely high keys where it becomes dmg and surviving

hexed matrix
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ok well there u go

grave blade
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as I said. outlaw is fine in low keys. Not in high keys

royal lantern
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(and outlaw wins in the survivng part btw)

hexed matrix
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low keys play whatever you want

grave blade
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nobody would take an outlaw over assassin in a high key babe

clear nexus
grave blade
hexed matrix
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well see

royal lantern
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are you drunk

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or trolling

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can only be 1 of those 2

strange python
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He is not

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Very wrong

hexed matrix
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have fun being target capped with no util in a 20 key

strange python
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You forget in very high keys ur pulling way bigger

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Being capped is an issue

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Sin is definitely the choice in high keys atm, it also DOES more damage in keys

real granite
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aoe stops is a must in high keys, theres no argument in that, and its has been like that for... ever

strange python
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Doing damage all the time doesn’t matter when the groups pull around cds anyways

royal lantern
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what is this history re-writing people do here rn OMEGAKEKW

grave blade
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@royal lantern seems like the community thinks you're a dummy. Accept it. kekdog

strange python
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Ur not gonna stop doing that just because you have outlaw

hexed matrix
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dude its not history re-writing lmfao

strange python
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I mean

hexed matrix
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outlaw has been in like one meta comp

strange python
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Your statements base on no numbers

royal lantern
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acting as if outlaw is not good in high keys cus of survivalbility (its the rogue spec with the strongest deffensive tools) and suddenly bringing up target caps (target caps never mattered for meta)

strange python
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Look at beta keys being done

hexed matrix
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sin hasnt been in one, and thats true, but times are a little diff right now

strange python
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And tell me

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If outlaw is close

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💀

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Outlaw is good

hexed matrix
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youre talking about pumping damage being all that matters first of all -- and now youre denying target cap being an issue? hello?

strange python
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Sin is just very much the preferred choice Surebud

spice surge
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Based on beta keys there shouldnt be a single spec thats even close to assa on the overall

strange python
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Yepyep

hexed matrix
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we diodnt say outlaw didnt have good defensives, but it has no group util thats equiv to sin silence on aoe packs

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where is whispyr

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he's probably still on CD from yesterday

royal lantern
strange python
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Okay…

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What an argument

royal lantern
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(and im a dummy)

hexed matrix
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ok good luck, report back and ping me when your outlaw is getting picked over sin

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but only on keys 15+

royal lantern
hexed matrix
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thats correct -- because sin was not performing how it does right now

real granite
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maybe cuz sin had no aoe before, and now it have

hexed matrix
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the silence was always good

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now we have good AOE

west cove
hexed matrix
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you JUST SAID damage is all that matters

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and now youre denying that sin does good dmg

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pick a lane dude

royal lantern
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it does good aoe, its bosss dmg is horrible in dungeons, and thats a fact lol

hexed matrix
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well guess what

royal lantern
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which is funny cus m+ andys coped for the last 2 years "ST DMG IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS!!!!"

real granite
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wut

round pike
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Is there a generic guide for setting bars for rogue I've never really played played the class just level'd it and had it sitting around was thinking of maining it. But the amount of abilities and stealth bar and abilities is kinda got me like ???

hexed matrix
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in high keys your outlaw is going to fall behind large packs to almost every other class that has better aoe over 5 or 8 targeets, and then youre not bringing the silence which in some of these dungeons (stonevault) will KILL you

royal lantern
# real granite wut

we literally had people dropping crimson tempest because "i dont need AoE, AoE is ussles" every 2nd day

royal lantern
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and not listening to others telling them why its not a smart idea

hexed matrix
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all M+ players gear for aoe

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crimson tempest is fucking massive hahahaha

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im just telling you, sin is ideally being brought for their large AOE pump + the util.

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then youll have other group comp to pump ST

royal lantern
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capped

hexed matrix
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a mage for example will always blast

royal lantern
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and it didnt matter then

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i dont remember people in SL going crazy that hunter was target capped

hexed matrix
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i feel like youre going to try and find a hole in any argument i give you so, ill just stop and we'll see what happens. 🙂

royal lantern
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where the entire S1 "god comp" was capped in some ways

hexed matrix
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we can compare experiences in a few weeks if you want

dim estuary
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sin > ass > boobs > outlaw

left sundial
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What highest aoe dps you did guys ? Aoe?

royal lantern
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that was also not true

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literally all of S3/S4 in this chanenl was "some M+ guy played a build that is only spatter, should i do it aswell????" all the time

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and everytime somebody tried to explain why its bad and they only do it cuss they are in a highly coordinated group with voicecoms, you had 3 people jump in yelling AOE DOESNT MATTER!!!!111!!!!!

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(and yes it was really fucking stupid, like, bruh)

odd lintel
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Random question, does it matter what loot preferences you choose (minus outlaw) example I’m playing assassin, should I leave my loot preference as assassin or switch for sub for better stat gear. I know on my mage if I choose fire I tend to get more frost stat gear.

earnest remnant
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it has 0 effect on gear drops

royal lantern
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well, loot spec outlaw means you drop 1hand weapons

earnest remnant
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only effect it has is weapons

royal lantern
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instead of daggers

turbid bone
royal lantern
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and assa/sub need daggers

normal mist
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Outlaw = one handed weapons
Assa/sub = daggers

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That's the main difference in loot drops

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You can't drop daggers as outlaw

clear nexus
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not main difference, the only difference

odd lintel
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Tyty

tacit wedge
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crafted dagger of shame
it's not even max rank
and i can't ask the blacksmith to roll the die again because he's on alliance

toxic tiger
normal mist
royal lantern
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like

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who tf told you that dracthyr_kek

tacit wedge
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all skinning/herbalism lmao

normal mist
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What about mining

tacit wedge
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the children yearns for the mine, but i'm not child

normal mist
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Damn.

west crown
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Do any of the weakauras reccommended here track clear the witness?

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!wa

tacit wedge
tacit wedge
# normal mist Damn.

but you're right, i could make my hunter leatherworking&skinning, and another alt mining/blacksmith

royal lantern
novel star
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^

west crown
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ty

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do we use it every proc outside of cooldowns?

normal mist
royal lantern
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if you dont play VV, you use it instead of mutilate

tacit wedge
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Maybe if we ask Luxthos nicely he'll update the pack to add CtW

royal lantern
tacit wedge
errant night
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sim tells me that depths is better in both st and aoe

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but i don't know. it's so new for me

royal lantern
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cus, you know

cursive frost
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I would trust the sims

royal lantern
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depths is a dot that stacks

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radiant is a stat buff

normal mist
royal lantern
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stat buffss translate into aoe well

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but again

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the differences are minor

tacit wedge
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Damn, who would have thought that replacing 2x580 dagger with 2x606 would make T8 a breath

errant night
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hmmm, stat buff seems better to me. though i'm not sure

tacit wedge
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i play them when i want a small break

royal lantern
subtle tundra
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Idk I can't do t8s

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I'm not gonna play mob by mob

waxen oyster
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pugs suck at tak rethan

subtle tundra
#

If t8s mean that then I'm not ding them

royal lantern
#

tbf, just stealth past most things

waxen oyster
#

the underwater one

royal lantern
#

and only do mandatory fights

subtle tundra
#

The delve i tried was to kill mobs

tacit wedge
subtle tundra
#

Today

tacit wedge
subtle tundra
#

At the third pack I ran out

normal mist
waxen oyster
#

weapon is biggest for most melee

royal lantern
#

like

#

every single classs and spec works that way lol

wheat tiger
#

Sacblood nerf going to remove it from S Class?

tacit wedge
fast olive
#

are people just ignoring the small adds in p3 ansurek as assa? i feel like they’re dying before i can get caustic rolling on them

subtle tundra
#

Not really

dim estuary
#

https://www.wowhead.com/fr/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/deathstalker/DANFVVFBRRUVViRFDVBANVUVVFEYUUFoFQBEEFVVUCEA
Any chance we go toward this talent build when going up in mythic + ? Sims higher in dungeon slice, we also gain some ST which is nice since we will have tyra everytime now no ?
(forgot the silence tho 😂 )

subtle tundra
#

Idk a single spec that doesn't go weapon as biggest upgrade

normal mist
# tacit wedge my ADHD yearns for variety

I like it too but then I feel like wasted time because I can't gear up multiple characters. Me and my rogue have a connection I can't get with any other character

subtle tundra
#

Casters also do

royal lantern
#

cus caster weapons have 1235150815ß9615351 Int

waxen thunder
#

Hey all, I wanted to check, does the attack speed reduction from mind numbing stack with attack speed from like warlocks and DK

subtle tundra
#

Yes

waxen thunder
#

Perf, thats what I remembered but wanted to be sure

tacit wedge
royal lantern
#

you still never take it over atrophic in raids

subtle tundra
#

And atrophic stacks as well for multiple

waxen thunder
royal lantern
#

mindnumbing is only for m+ and if you have a 2nd rogue

royal lantern
#

and they never bothered fixing it

waxen thunder
#

aaah I see

royal lantern
#

and they will fix it when it becomes relevant

#

aka when you have 2-3 rogues in the world first race

normal mist
subtle tundra
#

Well imagine if there is a hps check that gets beaten cause of rogue stacking

royal lantern
#

and they notice that everyone takes almost 10% less dmg

subtle tundra
#

Xd

waxen thunder
#

When tomb of soakgeras two, electric bugaloo comes back

normal mist
#

I know hehehe

plush hazel
safe sand
#

!wa

real granite
#

its like, hidden on ui and logs isnt it?

royal lantern
#

well, 3% / 3,6% for every rogue

real granite
#

aaah, ok

#

i mean, isnt it intended?

royal lantern
#

ofc not

subtle tundra
#

It's nothing hidden lol

royal lantern
#

its just again

#

there was never a moment where it was relevant

#

so they never bothered fixing it

winged quail
#

atrophic stacks? never knew lol

real granite
#

i meant hidden, cuz i thougt you meant stacks per 1 rog as a bug

winged quail
#

.6% is nothing tho

royal lantern
#

like varas said, the second a world first team stacks 3 rogues cus of atrophic, it will get fixed

royal lantern
#

i said 3.6% cus thats with master poisoner

winged quail
#

ohhh

#

that's not nothing then

subtle tundra
#

If there is a hard boss that does a lot of dmg itself and not the environment it could be a thing to stack some rogues

#

Usually that isn't the case

twin bay
#

on a fight like spidermommy do we just accept that our mark might get lost on intermission until next vanish?

royal lantern
#

and it would also need rogue to be exceptionaly strong on that tier

#

cus stacking melee dps is kinda yikes most of the time

unique kettle
royal lantern
#

sim it dracthyr_shrug

unique kettle
#

i was just wondering if someone had it offhand

subtle tundra
#

Idk I'm doing spidermommy tonight

#

6 times to be exact

twin bay
#

so i would reapply rupture if i hit 7cp?

#

instead of envenom

subtle tundra
#

Probably

#

Better than not having the mark at all

twin bay
#

i havent played deathmark at all until heroic because i cba and i lost it a few times

#

felt great KEKW

subtle tundra
#

Me neither but it's pretty quick to get the hang of it

twin bay
#

yeah on silken for example i started on the melee guy and lost it on intermission

left sundial
#

!sheet

prisma monolithBOT
twin bay
#

gotta keep such thingsnin mind then its not that bad

quartz lance
#

Still waiting for Ironclaw Whetstone to tank in prices so I can stop spending time pickpocketing kobolds for bubbling wax zzzz

normal mist
#

Each has a 2h duration

twin bay
#

i kinda wished there was one other thing then first ambush from stealth to apply it.

subtle tundra
quartz lance
subtle tundra
#

(except vanish ofc)

#

If there was shadow dance would've been slightly better but that's gone

normal mist
twin bay
#

im just gonna play sub anyway atleast for heroic

quartz lance
#

Kobold place in Ringing Deeps?

#

Last I checked that was the most 'efficient' place.

fair wharf
#

do you guys use fan of knives in 2target scenarios like the silken court as a builder

clear oar
#

why is the bee trinket so good in m+ i cant beat it with a sim

twin bay
clear oar
#

with any of the other major trinkets

#

jk i simmed the wrong shit

fair wharf
clear oar
#

let me resim and get back

tired gull
#

i sometimes still mut with 3 targets when i get unlucky fok cp gen

subtle tundra
#

Idc what's better I'm not foking on 2

twin bay
#

i used it just to reapply poisons since i mouseover the bleeds

subtle tundra
#

Feels like shit

twin bay
#

use it*

loud gull
#

Can we craft something with embelishments yet ?

thorn crater
#

!craft

prisma monolithBOT
#

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

loud gull
#

Ah thanx!

#

Crit/mastery missive i reckon ?

jaunty dew
#

Nice delve boss spawned mid delve, got map, got trinket

spice spire
#

But

#

Spamming is not the way for that fight

thorny harness
#

!spark

#

!craft

prisma monolithBOT
#

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

tired gull
#

i just unlock my mousewheel and spin it to fok every global

clear oar
tired gull
#

isn't it or wasn't it not splitting damage, and doing full damage to everything it hits?

spice spire
#

Yeah

#

But it is now splitting damage

clear oar
#

i thought they fixed it, what does the sim represent now?

spice spire
#

Idk if that was implemented tho gonna be real

wheat tiger
#

Any thoughts on the Sacblood nerf

#

will it get moved from the S Tier?

cinder quartz
arctic socket
#

If you don’t wanna spend the gold for whetstones just use mana oil on your weapons

royal lantern
#

^

cinder quartz
#

^ its better than wax proccing 15 times in 3 hours

twin bay
royal lantern
#

like, the consumables are ALL very minor impact anyway lol

boreal lichen
#

crimson tempest worth it for hc broodtwister ?

royal lantern
#

we talk about whetstone beeing 1% at R3, and a R1 oil beeing 0,6%

arctic socket
wheat tiger
#

I have all 3 S Tier trinkets @ 603 or something and I am trying to see if I want to spend anything up upgrade 2 of the 3

normal mist
#

Guys I think Portugal needs fireman

#

It's hot in here

royal lantern
#

@spice spire stop the fires please

quartz lance
twin bay
hollow hemlock
#

/wa

arctic socket
royal lantern
#

i dont wanna see royal get burned

hollow hemlock
#

!wa

normal mist
#

Me neither I don't like the heat

boreal lichen
# quartz lance Yes

any idea which 2 talent point i shoudl switch to get crimson tempest. as fate bound rogue

quartz lance
heavy sentinel
#

Anyone bored and wanna go over my logs and give me some tips??

arctic socket
#

Well when m+ comes out it’s no longer luck, it just becomes a sanity thing of how many times can I run grim batol without going insane

lament stump
#

m+ is cool to me but man do i hate how premade groups work

uneven plume
#

is 85% uptime on envenom decent?

twin bay
#

i member my 30 lower doti runs n week 1 without a dagger. good times

arctic socket
#

Everbloom prison

#

🙂

quartz lance
twin bay
#

rough

uneven plume
#

Bro, why does Whysper hate Sexual Transmitter trinket

arctic socket
#

Everbloom grinding was worse for me… Nicholas wasn’t too hard

uneven plume
#

-.-.-

subtle tundra
#

Sign me up

quartz lance
arctic socket
#

Fuck you

#

Respectfully

quartz lance
#

But then I did 60 runs for dagger so…

#

Checks and balances right

spice spire
subtle tundra
#

I didn't do eb. I got it from vault first week

#

Sucks to suck

spice spire
#

Based

quartz lance
subtle tundra
#

Dagger was another story

arctic socket
#

Imma make a group

#

With all rogues

#

And pay them for the m+ trinket

quartz lance
#

😂😂😂

subtle tundra
#

Was 35 for first then stopped at 65 for 2nd cause I gave up

spice spire
quartz lance
#

I wanted to kill him… in game of course

upbeat gust
#

is wax fixed?

tired gull
#

i noticed last night in raid my SBS cp was delayed by what felt like an eternity (likely a second or so)

subtle tundra
#

Some have further hit boxes

tired gull
#

that's wild

subtle tundra
#

You didn't play terros clearly

spice spire
tired gull
#

makes sense, was noticing it on bloodbound horror

#

i didn't play bfa, shlands, or df

waxen oyster
#

isnt volcoross worse

spice spire
#

You didn’t play sbs on volcross

#

You did on Terros

upbeat gust
# spice spire Define fixed

Works even after dying once and having 2 on 2 weapons = more procs not just as many procs as having 1 weapon having the wax

waxen oyster
subtle tundra
#

First season was the only one with sbs single target

#

I think

spice spire
#

Maybe for u but I’m different

#

(It was)

magic shore
#

guys im struggling with energy management in heroic kyveza, even with keeping dots and thistle tea, any thoughts? i think im using too much mutilate and waisting some echoing sweet spots, could that make that huge a difference?

subtle tundra
#

Do command someone

magic shore
#

not used to ST

subtle tundra
#

!design

prisma monolithBOT
#

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

  • No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
  • 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
  • You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
subtle tundra
#

Read this

magic shore
#

ty

waxen talon
#

!wa

waxen oyster
#

i mean if you want to mash keys every gcd

#

play outlaw

magic shore
#

playing for envenom uptime means leaving some garrote or ruptures out, or does it mean simply not spamming envenom when its already up?

spice spire
#

Death

spice spire
#

Outside of CDs wait until pandemic happens on envenom

#

Envenom again

#

And repeat

subtle tundra
magic shore
#

or echoing ir already enough?

spice spire
#

Kb and dm

magic shore
#

ok ty guys

#

im new

shy dust
magic shore
#

still learning, thanks for the help

shy dust
spice spire
#

Are you the new raz

#

Also holy fuck

shy dust
#

I could never

spice spire
#

Ancient pfp

shy dust
#

It’s the seasonal pfp for winter

spice spire
upbeat gust
#

u guys ever just forget to put poison and and wonder why u are doing no dmg?

spice spire
#

No because I can’t trust myself to not be an ape

limber lion
#

No

spice spire
#

So I have a weak aura that yells at me

#

To remind me

shy dust
arctic socket
#

“Put poisons on you fucking ape” weakaura goes hard

limber lion
#

Might have forgotten them like 10 years ago but now my weakauras simply will not let me play the game if I don't reapply

upbeat gust
#

weakauras are a bane to mankind.

spice spire
limber lion
#

I think you misspelt "gift"

spice spire
#

Monkey see button

#

Neuron activated

magic shore
#

i remember seeing a guide somewhere that told the timers for refreshing dots and envenom, anyone know which one is it?

#

!guide

prisma monolithBOT
#

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

spice spire
upbeat gust
#

for dots i use whispyr's plater so i dont have to think

limber lion
lone dirge
#

echoing reprimand seems to be fixed now?

limber lion
#

Yes

magic shore
#

but ill find it np

spice spire
magic shore
#

ty

lone dirge
#

worth using now?

subtle tundra
subtle tundra
#

And I'm not even old

#

I'm not...

spice spire
#

Too late Blud

limber lion
slate crown
#

Mmhm

spice spire
#

You’ll never beat the allegations

limber lion
#

So Rupture would be 8s

slate crown
waxen oyster
#

its legitimately impressive how bad pugs are at the sinkhole delve

warm shuttle
#

anyone know of a way to hide applied poisions above enemy healthbars with plater? i cant see stuff i need to track bcs theres like 4 poisons on every mob

limber lion
#

Honestly only the weakaura makers need to know the numbers, no one else

spice spire
arctic socket
#

I’m surprised how bad pugs are at brood

#

With egg breaks

arctic socket
#

Or court with web catching

warm shuttle
waxen oyster
limber lion
#

Mine and Whispyrs has most useless stuff blacklisted

weary shoal
#

can someone recommend a WA for the raid?

waxen oyster
#

on week 1

subtle tundra
waxen oyster
#

die to the frontal

limber lion
#

Should work

warm shuttle
#

that shld do it right? ive just put the poisons on there using the spell ids, yet theyre still showing up

waxen oyster
#

or step on the purple circles and spawn puddles

limber lion
#

Try using the name instead

weary shoal
#

!guide

waxen oyster
#

puppetmaster delve is pretty chill solo on rogue

#

since you can skip a sizeable amount with stealth

warm shuttle
limber lion
#

!wa

limber lion
#

Not on pc atm

warm shuttle
#

ty brother

limber lion
#

Also forgot to push my newest update fuck

#

But should give a decent idea regardless

#

All of that + poisons

#

Glgl

warm shuttle
#

much appreciated :D

novel star
#

whispyr said yesterday Hmm

#

but yeah

limber lion
#

Yes

normal mist
limber lion
#

But he's not really refering to that

#

But yeah that is the prio

#

Never let Rupture drop

#

Even if DN is highest prio

novel star
#

yeh

limber lion
#

Unless you're opening on a new pack

arctic socket
#

Rupture drops a lot on court 😉

limber lion
#

Eww

subtle tundra
#

Aaaaaa

novel star
#

well nah dn>rupture was in a conversation about single target prio

#

iirc

novel star
#

weird ass spec 🙃

arctic socket
#

Deathstalker the best thing to happen to rogue since thistle tea got brought back

subtle tundra
#

Mods. Ban this guy

arctic socket
#

Should give some love to poison knife tho

#

I forget we have that throw ability

upbeat gust
#

Pvpers use it

keen viper
#

on Broodtwister Ovi'nax does feint help with his AOE attack dot?

hidden dirge
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
harsh anchor
#

Elusiveness bis

novel star
#

we're so FUCKING BACK

#

aint no fuckin way HAHHAHA

sturdy stirrup
woven shore
#

Wait what

sage falcon
#

😂

sturdy stirrup
#

tell him i can come with him everyday just to give him that trinket for 100 k

woven shore
#

No you are lying dude

novel star
foggy quarry
#

Is there a guide up to date somewhere? Youtube?

novel star
sage falcon
#

Blizz knows and you'll get one in your vault now

woven shore
#

Thats fucked up

slate crown
# novel star

THats weird that you’re playing the raid build in the dungeon, cause you’re being VICIOUS today

novel star
woven shore
#

So ur boosting

#

Right

novel star
#

just pug

woven shore
#

And sell people trinkets

#

Wow

slate crown
#

?????

novel star
#

no i denied selling it to him

woven shore
#

No wonder people dont like the community

hidden dirge
#

are there any sims how much dps+ tier sets get you?

woven shore
#

I hope so

novel star
#

he opened the trade and put in 100k on his own

sturdy stirrup
#

one guy bought 1 ring from me just for 15 k

novel star
#

and then i called him poor and left

#

and equipped it

vivid crown
#

bro have you seen that drop? people lose their fucking minds

sturdy stirrup
novel star
#

HAHAHAH

slate crown
#

That’s not selling

novel star
#

^^^^

#

it was just a first boss only pug

normal mist
novel star
#

eh

normal mist
#

100k for literally nothing is good

#

Heheheh

proven jasper
#

L for not selling

#

Legit free money

slate crown
#

Honestly I probably would have too because my casual ass isn’t making amazing use of the gear I get

#

But I get not selling it

#

Like it’s fine

novel star
#

i can also spend like 1k on the gathering phials and go make that

hexed frost
#

So all raid builds running vicious over sanguine and no shrouded/imp Garr?

normal mist
#

I bet oliiii would have sold it if the guy was polite about it

novel star
hexed frost
novel star
#

but he just opened trade before even typing anything

#

weird vibe

normal mist
#

That's why I'm always polite when I need loot

slate crown
#

And right now my dopamine is driven primarily by my tsm graph not my dmg meters.

hexed frost
normal mist
#

I turn into a fancy england man

iron valve
woven shore
split flame
#

What’s the point of trying to keeping my energy below 50% when raid builds don’t run sanguine ?

slate crown
slate crown
#

Why are you owed their drop even after offering them gold?

normal mist
#

If they want to give/sell if I request, good

#

If not, idc

#

Gg go next

#

It's a fucking marathon, not a race

waxen oyster
#

This guy thinking group invites are determined by some made up boosting scheme

novel star
#

it's the bis trinket for everyone dude and its mythic 0 quality

#

its not a big deal LOL

normal mist
#

Also that's a veteran trinket

waxen oyster
#

and not plebs jerking off to some m+ tier list

novel star
#

all 5 people joined that party knowing they wanted to kill only the first boss for one item

waxen oyster
novel star
#

i got the item cause i wanted it

#

so i kept it

proven jasper
#

let’s talk about how its all getting replaced tomorrow too xD

novel star
#

literally lol

normal mist
#

Yep!!

proven jasper
#

100k for something gone tomorrow

hexed frost
novel star
#

i told him to up it to 150 as a joke

vagrant plover
novel star
#

i wouldve respected it, but it was still a joke

subtle tundra
normal mist
subtle tundra
#

I miss when it was a marathon, sweating sucks

golden loom
#

Odds delves will be fun and doable again tomorrow? Felt shit today after brann bugfix

polar nebula
#

!bugs

prisma monolithBOT
normal mist
subtle tundra
polar nebula
#

hmm I cant seem to find clear the witnesses info on bug list, is it anyhown known?

waxen oyster
#

bran felt fine for me

fallow canopy
waxen oyster
#

my bran is also 35

arctic socket
#

I would pay someone 50k my a grimbatol trinket fuck that place

golden loom
normal mist
waxen oyster
#

bran still pumps idk

#

i use the funny arrow aim curio though

arctic socket
#

(Delves are kinda useless now with m+ being out right?

polar nebula
subtle tundra
#

M+ isn't out yet

arctic socket
#

Yeah it is

waxen oyster
#

still good for alts

#

m0 is out

subtle tundra
arctic socket
#

Go pug grim batol

#

It’s like you’re doing 10S

subtle tundra
#

Yea you're crazy

vagrant plover
#

Pug a siege

subtle tundra
#

Go take your pills

#

I've pugged both siege and grim batol easy as fuck

woven shore
shy pecan
#

If you can’t get into +7 keys on a character this week, then delves still likely the play for gear

normal mist
arctic socket
#

I wonder how sieges last boss will be in keys

slate crown
woven shore
#

Its a game people should support eachother and not capitalise on everything like irl 😂

subtle tundra
arctic socket
#

He’s a troll