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Our 4 set dps gain is too low, do you guys think there will be a buff?
Maybe, we don't know yet
I use whispyrs plater and it's simple to find
BCS the nameplate is purple
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I think one of the intentions of season 1 is to intentionally make set bonuses not super powerful, hopefully we get a bit of love and future seasons have stronger bonuses, but I could also be making this up as being overly optimistic so idk
S1 DF was like this as well
i want them to always do that
hello guys. which one of these 2 enchants is better overall? (m+, delves, raids) and should i even use it since i have only one 610 dagger (max 626-629)
sets shouldn't be a big power gain
most of the power should already be in the class
and the set being a bonus
the intention was to be low
a good take on #assassination ? please leave
the high ones are the outliers
iirc radiant is for m+ and depths is for raid but check wowhead page to be sure
keep in mind depths is super expensive rn
i mean
they literally stated multiple times "S1 tiersets will be weaker effects with no impact on gameplay"
and then many people go crazy that they are weaker effects with no real impact
it says exactly what you said
i know wow player cant read, but yeha
We usually have them
radiant power is more expensive as i see
fck borrowed powers and anything remotly close to it
is raidbot's apl updated for the new bug
Bring back artifacts
radiant power is 29k and depths are 22k
holy
so should i buy one of these? i don't intend to go to mythic raids so i think 626-629 will be my max
delves and m+ are basicly the same
and delves dont matter
I’d just say what are you going to do more
And then spec into that
Are you raising more or keying more
"end game solo content" they said
Raiding even
ah difficult
specc into cooking bruh
depths until u got good parses and then radiant 
Brother I’m meal prepped for the week get woke
maybe they'll improve it in season 2
haha
with early access
End game content that offers power will never have a winning formula. If too hard people will complain, if too easy, people will complains
You have to make 500000 variables easier
Or harder
So
make it easy and to drop mythic tier items
so i can farm that instead of dealing with the apes in m+

i just want to raid
Nah you gotta deal with me (I’m ape)
but you're our ape 
1mil sim when 
hey, is simcraft gonna help to choose between these two enchants? i don't even think i need it now haha
simcraft helps with every single gearing decision
is it normal that I basically dont run out of energy?
wow, then gonna try this feature too
should be the opposite
always energy starved
is a higher ilvl dagger in MH always going to be the best option even if the secondaries are meh? I got a champion track dagger I can push higher than 606 but the stats aren't very good. Obviously it sims higher because higher ilvl but idk if its a waste of the crests
yes
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also you eventually wanna spend the crests anyways
and the crest you got rn
are rather useless
yeah that makes sense. I know secondaries aren't as much of an issue but just feels tough committing runed harbingers to a weird dagger
thanks fo the help
if u spend crests on one item u wont spend on second item anyway (think u need to upgrade both for daggers tho not sure)
you can always wait it out
on 606 tho
or just craft a 610 pvp dagger
without crests
you'll safe like 30 crests iirc short term
i would wait for the vault tomorrow to see what u get
is it possible to macro tea with any spell?
I have 300 energy and by the time I'd run I have tea nad stuff
I feel global capped
tbfh
ah okay
the only thing u would macro it with is shiv
thats bad aswell
but its not good still
It probably is
but its not a good idea
Tea is Off gcd afaik
so simcraft recommends me to use depths enchant on raids talent build
I doubt thats what he meant
yes
depths sims slightly higher in ST
ok then
radiant power sslightly higher in aoe
@spice spire do i ping you for a log review? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PCX7Gv3x2NkZw1qa#fight=2&type=damage-done
ping the quake yes
He aint in the Log review prison anymore
but i'm not sure if i need this enchant now, maybe i'll get a better dagger in future 😦
always ping the quake

I think radiant is a lot more versatile considering it’s still competitive in ST but much much better on multi target
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maybe too smol, he only likes big logs
Crust wasnt smooth enough i guess
based
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Anyone having issues in raid, while stealthed and shrouded, of being punched out of stealth by the boss when the tank pulls?
one more question. if i change my talent build to aoe one, and then sim, will it show me the best enchant overall or for the chosen build?
Happened to me last night, just be back a little
Is there a place or someone that does Parsec reviews? My percentage in raid is horrible compared to another Assa in the same raid and I'm not sure why after looking over it
so should i use two sims, one for st, one for aoe
bro tbh if your guild is not pushing mythic next week or youll farm +10 keys just get one of the cheap +stat enchants and call it a day

You can run two sims, but you can also compare talent builds with different enchants using top gear
But it will only be for one type of sim, patchwork, multitarget or slice
Does anyone know of assa heroic kill vids? I'm away for work and want to take notes
gonna wait for the great vault first, then choose what enchant to get.. 🙂
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@shrewd night can you thread me king
Where
I had an issue on normal and had to start stealth 2 seconds before pull , it went away naturally I couldn’t find anything triggering it
I wanna learn how to do it
Ill thread you like a needle on god
On heroic, I had zero issues
Paulgerz log review
Because I'm too fast
I think we should banana royal
TODAY IS A NEW DAY
Based and fair
This has happened to me randomly ever since vault. Especially with dathea who hated me so much, I had to stay away from her for the first 3 seconds of the fight or she would slap me. Since then, bosses randomly decide to give me a little death slap in raid
BUT now I can be a little bit more useful mister shiennar
You are always useful
I was stealthed and still somehow the first target of the boss when the tank pulled.
I almost spent that whole fight on the floor
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Blood for the blood god
he already bananaed me the other day, that gotta be enough
Kitten God**
I was killed so many time by koffing already
uwu uwu uwu uwu uwu uwu
and he pulled me back to live
Yeah, it’s weird. Funny part was, sent a report on the bug back when it was first happening in vault. Dathea got even more angry at me after that. It was no longer “hold back a second” it was “hold back three while everyone gets free dps on the boss who is turned around staring the rogue down”
Koffing cant scare me anymore
so you got the 5 min lovetaps aswell?

I think devs just hate rogues. I've been dealing with boss aggro since EverQuest circa 2k3
did you try having real tanks
it works wonders

Boss aggro is a certified player issue
quick question regarding energy management, do we sit idle when energy starved to let it build back up with the aim of chaining envenoms?
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TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom
- For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
- For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.
The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.
faster tagger in far west
My favorite moment was one raid... Every boss immediately attacked me, so they made me stand at the raid entrance for the last pull. The boss ran through the whole zone, 1-tapped me, then ran back to the tank.
taunting koffing

Sounds like somebody MDed or tricked you 😄
getting first slap is an issue when boss gets into combat before it can hit tank (Dathea charged by prot war from too far) and if you are in range, even in stealth, you get clapped
Practice pooling. It does wonders for your sanity when playing assassination.
also gives a breather to take a look around, catch mechanichs etc
mostly if the tank thinks he is a dps and doesnt start with taunt
100% this. Raid felt so much better for me last night because I've been working on this since Thursday.
It's wonderful.
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Bubbling Wax is roughly on par with whetstones and are free. Some caveats:
- Right now having wax applied to your offhand does nothing. Make sure you apply wax first, then apply your whetstone
- The quickest way to farm for wax is pickpocketing the kobolds in front of darkflame cleft
- If you have no idea what any of this is, you need to start the questline with "Brax's Brass Knuckles", then walk into the inn and talk to the vent to start "Go Take Candle". Once you complete the short questline, you can pickpocket wax from the kobolds
i lost trust in tanks, i stay out of melee range for pull and step in after 0 countdown 😄
Does Wax stop working after death?
I noticed on one boss I had zero wax damage, reapplied and it worked again
sitting there auto atatcking while you build back up to aroun 70/80% feels bad
thats rogue life buddy
This didnt work for me
just want to check if I am missign something or should be approaching tings differently
i feel the exact opposite, i love it. there's so few specs that have any downtime whatsoever
It's more about being methodical and consistent, and then bursting like a mofo.
are y'all running sub in raid? thinking about doing that and sticking to sin for m+
not sure if the ER changes helped sin enough to be competitive
Asking if they run sub
are we cooked bros?

you can play both though?
never 
maybe, who cares though
great ima reroll to fury
but topping meters is fun 🙂
BASED
Nobody sane runs sub
Bro is in assa chat
Talking about sane people

Although to be fair
Outlaw chat is worse
Assa rogue = Watching Cd's, lining up cd windows, pressing a konami code of buttons in sequence to maximize dps.
Fury Warr = press 2 buttons, drool (hurr durr). Max DPS.

life aint fair


and our 4 set tier is like 2% damage increase

worst tier set in game of all class/specs
can u solo zekv as assa?
So.. while we're kinda mid right now, we're about to be shit when everyone gets tier
look how cooked we are.

Is that the izen list?
guys, what kind of superhuman achievement should i put in the m0 description to get invited with 596 ilvl
PHD in finance? a nobel nomination?
make ur own group
Nothing, just do the inviting yourself
Get good at gobbling knob or pay them gold.
I don't have any gold...

lmfao
ask for 10k when u get the trinket to trade
Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts : how ?
is our tier that bad comparatively?
kinda yeah
Actually true
i believe we are good for m+ atleast
Less energy consumed by sanguine blades
most classes are around a 5% damage increase with set. some as high as 13%. We get a 2%er.
isnt it boring logging on to doompost
i can feel better about not getting tier this week then 😄
do you get joy from this
no
The 10%+:ers all got nerfed down
ah yeah thanks
Stirs the community, makes posts, then blizz sees and buffs us. 
sin is unplayable, im going fury
that way we get wars nerfed
and us buffed
its all about score, so just put your r.io, fico and lsat score in there.
How do I get these scores?
LOL
basically
how far behind is focusing lense vs ascension?
Guild groups are the way
What are you after chickpea
With that envenom command what's the info
!pooling
Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom
- For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
- For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.
The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.
He deleted the message and ran away 😭
lul just saw the updated wowhead tier list description for ass "Assassination Rogue players will tell you that restealths are the most important thing possible for their damage, but they are gaslighting."
(no i don't care about the tier list, i just thought this was funny)
guys, someone wants to buy my tier set token for 250k, good deal?
umm
100% our tier set is trash
Really just depends how desperate you are for gold
It could be worth if you are very poor
i have 700k roughly, but my rogue is alt and only has this tier token from this week
You can easily get 4set on alts later, take the gold and run tbh
I wouldn’t but I don’t have gold problems and I also play sub a bunch and sub’s tier set is not trash, it’s quite strong
That's higher than the cut you'd get from an unsaved normal boost rn
And this is my main
Sin and outlaw are pretty close in performance for dunegons right?
❤️ tempest kiting trash lol
nah, assasin better than outlaw in m+
Outlaw doesn’t have iron wire 
even if better, are they close
ok
better prio, 6 second aoe silence, etc.
But m+ isn't open yet
How can you tell?
Their kit. Unless blizz changes their kits.
opening silencing the whole pull for 6 secs, 9 with aug? gimme that shit
yep yummy yummy
invaluable
thanks for the insight
bruh i have the same version of whispyr's WA, on one pc it tracks the delve trinkets on the other it doesnt
im so confused lmfao
huh
did you
like
ssee the absurd dmg outlaw does
all the time
doesnt matter
(note: if you're not pushing ultra high keys it really won't matter that much, first couple of weeks the utility will be great because difficulty will exist)
ye ofc, im the last guy you have too tell that lol
assass better prior damage and aoe silence. Outlaw rogue is fine in low keys, not fine in high keys.
damage isnt everything.
prio*
just as a general reminder cause a lot of people are like "I MUST PLAY THE BEST THING IN ALL CONTENT"
dmg is literally the only thing that matters
except in extremely high keys where it becomes dmg and surviving
ok well there u go
as I said. outlaw is fine in low keys. Not in high keys
(and outlaw wins in the survivng part btw)
low keys play whatever you want
nobody would take an outlaw over assassin in a high key babe
what is high keys

well see
?????????????
are you drunk
or trolling
can only be 1 of those 2
have fun being target capped with no util in a 20 key
You forget in very high keys ur pulling way bigger
Being capped is an issue

Sin is definitely the choice in high keys atm, it also DOES more damage in keys
aoe stops is a must in high keys, theres no argument in that, and its has been like that for... ever
Doing damage all the time doesn’t matter when the groups pull around cds anyways
what is this history re-writing people do here rn 
@royal lantern seems like the community thinks you're a dummy. Accept it. 
Ur not gonna stop doing that just because you have outlaw
dude its not history re-writing lmfao
I mean
outlaw has been in like one meta comp
Your statements base on no numbers
acting as if outlaw is not good in high keys cus of survivalbility (its the rogue spec with the strongest deffensive tools) and suddenly bringing up target caps (target caps never mattered for meta)
Look at beta keys being done
sin hasnt been in one, and thats true, but times are a little diff right now
youre talking about pumping damage being all that matters first of all -- and now youre denying target cap being an issue? hello?
Sin is just very much the preferred choice 
Based on beta keys there shouldnt be a single spec thats even close to assa on the overall
Yepyep
we diodnt say outlaw didnt have good defensives, but it has no group util thats equiv to sin silence on aoe packs
where is whispyr
he's probably still on CD from yesterday
Mr.Joined on august 24, im part of this community for over 6 years now, tf do you want from me 
(and im a dummy)
ok good luck, report back and ping me when your outlaw is getting picked over sin
but only on keys 15+
so we hade silence for years sand it never mattered, and suddenly aoe silence is a reason why assa is a pick over outlaw alwayss

thats correct -- because sin was not performing how it does right now
maybe cuz sin had no aoe before, and now it have
It just wasn’t enough
you JUST SAID damage is all that matters
and now youre denying that sin does good dmg
pick a lane dude
it does good aoe, its bosss dmg is horrible in dungeons, and thats a fact lol
well guess what
which is funny cus m+ andys coped for the last 2 years "ST DMG IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS!!!!"
wut
Is there a generic guide for setting bars for rogue I've never really played played the class just level'd it and had it sitting around was thinking of maining it. But the amount of abilities and stealth bar and abilities is kinda got me like ???
in high keys your outlaw is going to fall behind large packs to almost every other class that has better aoe over 5 or 8 targeets, and then youre not bringing the silence which in some of these dungeons (stonevault) will KILL you
we literally had people dropping crimson tempest because "i dont need AoE, AoE is ussles" every 2nd day
no one has ever said this
and not listening to others telling them why its not a smart idea
all M+ players gear for aoe
crimson tempest is fucking massive hahahaha
im just telling you, sin is ideally being brought for their large AOE pump + the util.
then youll have other group comp to pump ST
allright, then why was some of the best and strongest comps we had in passt seasons
capped
a mage for example will always blast
and it didnt matter then
i dont remember people in SL going crazy that hunter was target capped

i feel like youre going to try and find a hole in any argument i give you so, ill just stop and we'll see what happens. 🙂
where the entire S1 "god comp" was capped in some ways
we can compare experiences in a few weeks if you want
sin > ass > boobs > outlaw
What highest aoe dps you did guys ? Aoe?
like, again
that was also not true
literally all of S3/S4 in this chanenl was "some M+ guy played a build that is only spatter, should i do it aswell????" all the time
and everytime somebody tried to explain why its bad and they only do it cuss they are in a highly coordinated group with voicecoms, you had 3 people jump in yelling AOE DOESNT MATTER!!!!111!!!!!
(and yes it was really fucking stupid, like, bruh)
Random question, does it matter what loot preferences you choose (minus outlaw) example I’m playing assassin, should I leave my loot preference as assassin or switch for sub for better stat gear. I know on my mage if I choose fire I tend to get more frost stat gear.
it has 0 effect on gear drops
well, loot spec outlaw means you drop 1hand weapons
only effect it has is weapons
instead of daggers
Only difference is outlaw will get swords fist weps
and assa/sub need daggers
Outlaw = one handed weapons
Assa/sub = daggers
That's the main difference in loot drops
You can't drop daggers as outlaw
not main difference, the only difference
Tyty
crafted dagger of shame
it's not even max rank
and i can't ask the blacksmith to roll the die again because he's on alliance
Yes the game sims your other mage spec and gives you optimal drops for it rather than the one you actually play
Ask another BS or be a Chad and level an alt with BS
that frost gear is no thing btw lol
like
who tf told you that 
i have 6 max level alts
all skinning/herbalism lmao
What about mining
the children yearns for the mine, but i'm not child
Damn.
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i can tell you
Luxthos doesn't
but you're right, i could make my hunter leatherworking&skinning, and another alt mining/blacksmith
whispyr's does
whisps pack has it as a smart wa
aka it tracks CtW, but doesnt track it when you are specced into VV (where you dont use it)
^
I keep leveling my warrior for BS so I don't have to ask other people
if you dont play VV, you use it instead of mutilate
Maybe if we ask Luxthos nicely he'll update the pack to add CtW
aka you still have to ask cus you only can do 1 armor type and need 2 
is it true?
Daggers
i just a metric tonne of alts so i can play with my more casual friends when they want to level yet another alt
sim tells me that depths is better in both st and aoe
but i don't know. it's so new for me
both are very very close to eachother, overall Depths is more ST focused and radiant more aoe focused
cus, you know
I would trust the sims
I feel you, I deleted around 20 Alts because they meant nothing to me
Damn, who would have thought that replacing 2x580 dagger with 2x606 would make T8 a breath
hmmm, stat buff seems better to me. though i'm not sure
oh, i actually enjoy having max level alts
i play them when i want a small break
Breeze
almost as if mainhand weapon upgrades are by far the biggest one avaible huh 
pugs suck at tak rethan
If t8s mean that then I'm not ding them
tbf, just stealth past most things
the underwater one
and only do mandatory fights
The delve i tried was to kill mobs
ty for the correction :)
Today
friends didn't believed me when i told them the biggest upgrade for a rogue is a better MH dagger
At the third pack I ran out
I only like having 1 character, 2 if we agree that the second will be for casual stuff
weapon is biggest for most melee
my ADHD yearns for variety
why would they not belive you, thats the biggesst upgrade for everyone lol
like
every single classs and spec works that way lol
Sacblood nerf going to remove it from S Class?
i think it's because i said that out of all melees, rogues are the one that benefits the most of a weapon upgrade due to SnD
are people just ignoring the small adds in p3 ansurek as assa? i feel like they’re dying before i can get caustic rolling on them
Not really
https://www.wowhead.com/fr/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/deathstalker/DANFVVFBRRUVViRFDVBANVUVVFEYUUFoFQBEEFVVUCEA
Any chance we go toward this talent build when going up in mythic + ? Sims higher in dungeon slice, we also gain some ST which is nice since we will have tyra everytime now no ?
(forgot the silence tho 😂 )
Idk a single spec that doesn't go weapon as biggest upgrade
I like it too but then I feel like wasted time because I can't gear up multiple characters. Me and my rogue have a connection I can't get with any other character
casters
Casters also do
its the same for them
cus caster weapons have 1235150815ß9615351 Int
Hey all, I wanted to check, does the attack speed reduction from mind numbing stack with attack speed from like warlocks and DK
Yes
Perf, thats what I remembered but wanted to be sure
during legion/bfa i used to play a lot of diff characters so i have a deep bond with most of them
you still never take it over atrophic in raids
And atrophic stacks as well for multiple
That part I didnt know
mindnumbing is only for m+ and if you have a 2nd rogue
aaah I see
and they will fix it when it becomes relevant
aka when you have 2-3 rogues in the world first race
Yeah so you know what I mean. But I only have it for a single character
Well imagine if there is a hps check that gets beaten cause of rogue stacking
and they notice that everyone takes almost 10% less dmg
Xd
When tomb of soakgeras two, electric bugaloo comes back
lucky you
I know hehehe
Thanks a lot I'll try it out
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wut? how much does it stack?
its like, hidden on ui and logs isnt it?
well, 3% / 3,6% for every rogue
ofc not
It's nothing hidden lol
its just again
there was never a moment where it was relevant
so they never bothered fixing it
atrophic stacks? never knew lol
i meant hidden, cuz i thougt you meant stacks per 1 rog as a bug
.6% is nothing tho
like varas said, the second a world first team stacks 3 rogues cus of atrophic, it will get fixed
its not .6%, its 3% or 3.6% additonal, a full atrophic
i said 3.6% cus thats with master poisoner
If there is a hard boss that does a lot of dmg itself and not the environment it could be a thing to stack some rogues
Usually that isn't the case
on a fight like spidermommy do we just accept that our mark might get lost on intermission until next vanish?
and it would also need rogue to be exceptionaly strong on that tier
cus stacking melee dps is kinda yikes most of the time
bump
sim it 
i was just wondering if someone had it offhand
You don't apply it if intermission is soon
Idk I'm doing spidermommy tonight
6 times to be exact
i havent played deathmark at all until heroic because i cba and i lost it a few times
felt great KEKW
Me neither but it's pretty quick to get the hang of it
yeah on silken for example i started on the melee guy and lost it on intermission
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gotta keep such thingsnin mind then its not that bad
Still waiting for Ironclaw Whetstone to tank in prices so I can stop spending time pickpocketing kobolds for bubbling wax zzzz
I farmed around 80 in 20(?) minutes
Each has a 2h duration
i kinda wished there was one other thing then first ambush from stealth to apply it.
Losing the mark is way too punishing when it's impossible to get back
I farmed around 20 in 20 minutes last time. Got pretty unlucky with "drops" and it's more the fact that I'd rather spend that time doing something else
(except vanish ofc)
If there was shadow dance would've been slightly better but that's gone
Sounds like you're farming in the wrong place
im just gonna play sub anyway atleast for heroic
do you guys use fan of knives in 2target scenarios like the silken court as a builder
why is the bee trinket so good in m+ i cant beat it with a sim
rarely but i freestyle that shit xD
ye me too but i feel like i should spam it
let me resim and get back
i sometimes still mut with 3 targets when i get unlucky fok cp gen
Idc what's better I'm not foking on 2
i used it just to reapply poisons since i mouseover the bleeds
Feels like shit
use it*
3+
Can we craft something with embelishments yet ?
!craft
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
Nice delve boss spawned mid delve, got map, got trinket
You should not spam it. We have caustic.
ct is playable in 2t and you potentially want to cast Fan due to ctw
But
Spamming is not the way for that fight
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
i just unlock my mousewheel and spin it to fok every global
yeah can someone tell me why the bee trinket is actually goated? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8n9aSHyLqTf912RfWk2vdy
isn't it or wasn't it not splitting damage, and doing full damage to everything it hits?
i thought they fixed it, what does the sim represent now?
Idk if that was implemented tho gonna be real
bubbling wax is really broken right now and barely procs
If you don’t wanna spend the gold for whetstones just use mana oil on your weapons
^
^ its better than wax proccing 15 times in 3 hours
what does it matter you will take what you can loot anyway
like, the consumables are ALL very minor impact anyway lol
crimson tempest worth it for hc broodtwister ?
Yes
we talk about whetstone beeing 1% at R3, and a R1 oil beeing 0,6%
Definitely
I have all 3 S Tier trinkets @ 603 or something and I am trying to see if I want to spend anything up upgrade 2 of the 3
@spice spire stop the fires please
Bastard. I only just got a sacbrood today. Still don’t have the trinket from grim batol
next week is m+ it rly couldnt mean anything less what trinket you have rn
/wa
Upgrade all of the trinkets to 606 then use which ever sims best after Tuesday
i dont wanna see royal get burned
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater
Me neither I don't like the heat
any idea which 2 talent point i shoudl switch to get crimson tempest. as fate bound rogue
Still gonna need to be lucky to get drops even if it’s M+ and you can target items by spamming the dungeon
Anyone bored and wanna go over my logs and give me some tips??
Well when m+ comes out it’s no longer luck, it just becomes a sanity thing of how many times can I run grim batol without going insane
m+ is cool to me but man do i hate how premade groups work
is 85% uptime on envenom decent?
i member my 30 lower doti runs n week 1 without a dagger. good times
I think I was without that dagger for like 60 runs
rough
Bro, why does Whysper hate Sexual Transmitter trinket
Everbloom grinding was worse for me… Nicholas wasn’t too hard
-.-.-
Std trinket?
Sign me up
I was reverse. Think I did EB twice for the trinket
I ain’t stripping for Portugal big dog
Based
This guy is worse than me @arctic socket
Dagger was another story
😂😂😂
Was 35 for first then stopped at 65 for 2nd cause I gave up
P2w mf
I know someone that got myth track dagger two weeks in a row and was sorted
I wanted to kill him… in game of course
is wax fixed?
i noticed last night in raid my SBS cp was delayed by what felt like an eternity (likely a second or so)
It's based on the boss
Some have further hit boxes
that's wild
You didn't play terros clearly
Define fixed
isnt volcoross worse
Works even after dying once and having 2 on 2 weapons = more procs not just as many procs as having 1 weapon having the wax
didnt play sin that tier
guys im struggling with energy management in heroic kyveza, even with keeping dots and thistle tea, any thoughts? i think im using too much mutilate and waisting some echoing sweet spots, could that make that huge a difference?
Do command someone
not used to ST
Idk but noting it in tc
!design
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.
- No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
- 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
- You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
Read this
ty
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater
playing for envenom uptime means leaving some garrote or ruptures out, or does it mean simply not spamming envenom when its already up?
Death
Don’t spam envenom outside of CDs
Outside of CDs wait until pandemic happens on envenom
Envenom again
And repeat
Bleeds are number 1 priority. So high you don't ever consider them ever in any situation to let them fall off
by CDs do you mean like kingsbane and deathmark?
or echoing ir already enough?
Kb and dm
The return?
still learning, thanks for the help
No problem
I could never
Ancient pfp
It’s the seasonal pfp for winter

u guys ever just forget to put poison and and wonder why u are doing no dmg?
No because I can’t trust myself to not be an ape
No
No because my wa is in a prominent position to remind me to do so
“Put poisons on you fucking ape” weakaura goes hard
Might have forgotten them like 10 years ago but now my weakauras simply will not let me play the game if I don't reapply
weakauras are a bane to mankind.
That was my don't release weak aura

I think you misspelt "gift"
i remember seeing a guide somewhere that told the timers for refreshing dots and envenom, anyone know which one is it?
!guide
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
!pandemic
Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

for dots i use whispyr's plater so i dont have to think
We had a custom wa that wouldn't allow you to even click it unless you held control for 3s or something
echoing reprimand seems to be fixed now?
Yes
ye i remember a small cheat sheet with all the seconds you should refresh it on
but ill find it np
Yeah that’s what mine does too.
But it also says “don’t release you fucking ape”
ty
worth using now?
It’s just 30% of max
No cause I've been playing rogue for almost a decade. Man why you remind me
Old
Too late Blud
It's literally just 30% of the applied duration, you can assume 5cp for everything
Mmhm
You’ll never beat the allegations
So Rupture would be 8s
That’s what we all say, it’s ok.
its legitimately impressive how bad pugs are at the sinkhole delve
anyone know of a way to hide applied poisions above enemy healthbars with plater? i cant see stuff i need to track bcs theres like 4 poisons on every mob
Honestly only the weakaura makers need to know the numbers, no one else
Old
Blacklist them
Or court with web catching
i’d never pug the taid
Mine and Whispyrs has most useless stuff blacklisted
can someone recommend a WA for the raid?
just dont pug
on week 1
Ofc it's mostly people who haven't done the boss
Should work
that shld do it right? ive just put the poisons on there using the spell ids, yet theyre still showing up
or step on the purple circles and spawn puddles
Try using the name instead
!guide
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
puppetmaster delve is pretty chill solo on rogue
since you can skip a sizeable amount with stealth
this worked, can i see ur blacklist so i can filter out some other stuff
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater
Not on pc atm
ty brother
Also forgot to push my newest update fuck
But should give a decent idea regardless
All of that + poisons
Glgl
much appreciated :D
apparently darkest night consume > rupture uptime
whispyr said yesterday 
but yeah
Yes
I was there I can confirm
But he's not really refering to that
But yeah that is the prio
Never let Rupture drop
Even if DN is highest prio
yeh
Unless you're opening on a new pack
Rupture drops a lot on court 😉
Eww
Man deathstalker even fucked with the very basics
Aaaaaa
Deathstalker the best thing to happen to rogue since thistle tea got brought back
Mods. Ban this guy
Pvpers use it
on Broodtwister Ovi'nax does feint help with his AOE attack dot?
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
Elusiveness bis
lol
Wait what
😂
tell him i can come with him everyday just to give him that trinket for 100 k
No you are lying dude
Is there a guide up to date somewhere? Youtube?

Blizz knows and you'll get one in your vault now
Thats fucked up
THats weird that you’re playing the raid build in the dungeon, cause you’re being VICIOUS today

?????
no i denied selling it to him
No wonder people dont like the community
are there any sims how much dps+ tier sets get you?
I hope so
he opened the trade and put in 100k on his own
one guy bought 1 ring from me just for 15 k
bro have you seen that drop? people lose their fucking minds
im gonna hunt you
HAHAHAH
They didn’t go in with the intent of selling, that person made an offer after Oli looted it
That’s not selling
I would have sold it
Honestly I probably would have too because my casual ass isn’t making amazing use of the gear I get
But I get not selling it
Like it’s fine
So all raid builds running vicious over sanguine and no shrouded/imp Garr?
I bet oliiii would have sold it if the guy was polite about it
no, both options are really close together

probably lol its only a 0.5% upgrade for me
but he just opened trade before even typing anything
weird vibe
That's why I'm always polite when I need loot
And right now my dopamine is driven primarily by my tsm graph not my dmg meters.
Can't find the other ST build, let me look
I turn into a fancy england man
only for pure single target I believe
And now put yourself in the Position that someone drops your bis trinket and wont give it until you pay him
Especially as rogues
Who have hard times finding a group
What’s the point of trying to keeping my energy below 50% when raid builds don’t run sanguine ?
Wait it dropped for them not you
It's not my drop
Why are you owed their drop even after offering them gold?
If they want to give/sell if I request, good
If not, idc
Gg go next
It's a fucking marathon, not a race
This guy thinking group invites are determined by some made up boosting scheme
it's the bis trinket for everyone dude and its mythic 0 quality
its not a big deal LOL
Also that's a veteran trinket
and not plebs jerking off to some m+ tier list
all 5 people joined that party knowing they wanted to kill only the first boss for one item

let’s talk about how its all getting replaced tomorrow too xD
literally lol
Yep!!
100k for something gone tomorrow
Ulgrax - Adds
Bloodbound - Cleave
Sikran - pure st
Rashanan- add cleave
Nexus kween - Pure st
Court - cleave
Queen- some cleave
So only two bosses?
i told him to up it to 150 as a joke
Ah yes, the negotiator
i wouldve respected it, but it was still a joke
😔
Also, what the hell is this take man? XD
I miss when it was a marathon, sweating sucks
Odds delves will be fun and doable again tomorrow? Felt shit today after brann bugfix
!bugs
Rogue Bug tracker: https://github.com/SimCMinMax/WoW-BugTracker/labels/Rogue
It is for me
For some reason it brann did less dmg for me today xs
hmm I cant seem to find clear the witnesses info on bug list, is it anyhown known?
bran felt fine for me
we are a repressed bunch apparently
my bran is also 35
I would pay someone 50k my a grimbatol trinket fuck that place
Yeah his damage got bugfixed and compensation buffed but its nowhere near the same dmg for me atleast
Idk anymore. Just weird
(Delves are kinda useless now with m+ being out right?
I mean I dont get buff, doesnt generate cp, just doesnt work
M+ isn't out yet
Yeah it is
Show me bud
Yea you're crazy
Pug a siege
Ofc but during a marathon you also dont stretch your knee out infront of Somebody else see he falls down
If you can’t get into +7 keys on a character this week, then delves still likely the play for gear
I have no idea what you're yapping about
I wonder how sieges last boss will be in keys
If that’s what you think is happening in this situation then IDN how to help you anymore
Its a game people should support eachother and not capitalise on everything like irl 😂
Same as it was back in bfa
He’s a troll












