assassination

[rugged saddle]

dracthyr for extra CC

[indigo mulch]

I can't wait to be a gekko rogue!

[quartz locust]

that world quest trink makes me want to be a spider lady rogue so bad

[hallow pelican]

The head candle isn’t bad either

[eternal quail]

feels so bad to mutilate a new target to swap caustic when full cp to avoid mark eating itself...

[grim jay]

only worthy race gains are to nelf and dwarf for mechanic cheeses in m+, no numerical gain is worth, pick what suits you best visually

[grim jay]

that doesnt make sense

you firstly dont want to get into the situation where you have a mark and DN

[tired gull]

between trash packs

[grim jay]

and secondly, if you ever get into that situation, how about you just use the DN envenom on stack 3 or 2?

[grim jay]

nowhere

ever

[tired gull]

between trash packs

mob dies, you get DN, ambush new pack, get mark

[grim jay]

yeah you dont ambush

[eternal quail]

so you're saying to not ambush open after a trash pack has died on a new trash pack?

ok...

that delays the stack spending by like

[robust axle]

Just play Fatebound in dungeons, its better anyway YEP

[eternal quail]

4 globals

[grim jay]

you are literally garroting and rupturing

you wont do anything with the mark

[little tulip]

you do get +5cp quick with fan of knives

[hallow pelican]

Seriously considering doing this given our AoE rotation

[little tulip]

but it's just like the death knight/caster is doing the same 800k/1.5m damage

not dealing with chad tank making a 20 key look like nothing yet

[robust axle]

Fatebound is just simpler, and better numerically until ER gets fixed anyway - on AoE that is. You still play DS in raid

[eternal quail]

is the mark eating itself working as intended?

[hallow pelican]

Exactly. Our ST raid is gonzo

[grim jay]

probably not, but you getting into that situation isnt either

[robust axle]

Just play Sub DS in raids, its so cozy atm

[honest oxide]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[little tulip]

(https://tenor.com/view/the-terminator-arnold-schwarzenegger-terminator-judgement-day-smirk-gif-16309832)

[grim jay]

the er bug isnt anything insane numerically for dungeons

[primal jolt]

WHAT ARE THESE ROGUE CHANGES

is tristle tea a passive now or not???

i cant figure it out

[eternal quail]

obviouly not optimal, but why is this corner I can put myself in even here?

[grim jay]

both

[primal jolt]

so do you lose a stack of it then?

[robust axle]

Nah I know, but its kinda putting DS behind Fatebound atm, at least in AoE scenarios

[primal jolt]

at 30%

[spice surge]

What do you mean

[normal mist]

its the same + the passive stuff they added

[grim jay]

he means using DN envenom on 1 mark stack remaining

so both disappear

[spice surge]

Ah ye

[little tulip]

stupid bugs 🙂

[grim jay]

id guess its an oversight

because its not the intended way they think one would play... probably

[hallow pelican]

Could be worse. You could be playing sunfury fire… bug fix nerfs their base dmg by 12% with no proposed buff to compensate

[whole sand]

oh no mages

[spice surge]

Pretty sure its just not intended, because its not that hard to end up like that for sub

[whole sand]

[grim jay]

oh wait ye on sub you kinda need to "track" that

[eternal quail]

rupture consumes the stacks too, which is why im saying it delays it if you put the mark on the target after rupturing in the situation where you have a stack left over from a previous pack.

[little tulip]

yeah it's a mess lol

[grim jay]

the mark stacks themself arent much damage and your prio just is different

[little tulip]

wish they kept some of the legion staff around to double as debugging team

[spice surge]

If you dont have imp garrote using vanish to apply a new mark when darkest night is up is good for assa too

[grim jay]

legion had a fair amount of bugs

[spring prawn]

someone tell me what to think about upcoming changes?

[little tulip]

please keep talking lol

[grim jay]

he's purely talking about dungeons going from pack to pack

[spice surge]

Well ye i know

[little tulip]

i apprecaite that 1600 extra people made it look really pretty

[primal jolt]

bro these changes are barely anything wtf

[little tulip]

for me legion on transmog and gold farm runs looks prettier than dragonflight usually lol

[grim jay]

there is still quite some time left

[little tulip]

but dragonflight was a tighter art experienece and stuff etc :b

[grim jay]

end of november should be patch date

[primal jolt]

man im gonna go back to rogue if thats the case

like straight up

[grim jay]

legion was really pretty imo ye

probably best memories aswell

but it had its fair share of issues

[eternal quail]

ambush > rupture > rupture > garrote > garrote > CT into one target in 5-7 target pulls dots everything, and puts the mark stack at 1. So then I want to single cast Fan to max combo points and env. This is where im putting myself into the corner regarding the mark eating itself. How should I open instead in this situation?

[little tulip]

garrote gives more combo points due to improved garrote i think?

and then when you rupture you get combo points back from serrated bone spikes

[robust axle]

Open with garrote

[little tulip]

so you can cast rupture again or run more garrotes depending

[velvet ridge]

What if they made garrote stack like unstable affliction used to

[whole sand]

you're missing a mutilate fyi

[normal mist]

where are the garrotes??

[grim jay]

whispyr made all those pretty graphics

for all of us

[little tulip]

ambush u get a 4cp rupture right?

[normal mist]

3

[little tulip]

yea

[normal mist]

with talent you get 3

otherwise 2

[little tulip]

u gonna wanna send garrote to 5 cp and start rupturing

[hallow pelican]

LK played best for me.

[glossy remnant]

!poison

[prisma monolith]

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

• Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
  Non-Lethals:
• Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

[little tulip]

if packs are getting into range garrote then max cp rupture and then garrote if u got time left on ic

[grim jay]

sadly didnt play much of LK, that was when I got into wow and a friend gave me his account because he was barely playing

and I was young

[little tulip]

i aws uh 16-17 when wrath was out

[grim jay]

13

[little tulip]

did naxx,ulduar, toc but our 10 man guild had a baby and a ladder climbing warlock lol

didn't wanna farm chat for new ppl and yeah

mana is a cruuuuuuuuutch 😄

[void mesa]

Your last envenom would consume last stack of mark and then give you DN. I dont know how you get both a 1 stack mark and DN in your scenario, unless that's a real weird bug

[grim jay]

he opened with ambush

while having dn

its pretty simple actually

[void mesa]

Oh

[grim jay]

and wrong

[void mesa]

That is quite the edge case, but okay

[grim jay]

for sin it shouldnt really happen ye

[little tulip]

hehe salmonalla and netheria and and and :b

alright you know?

[hallow pelican]

Early cata ruined me so I quit for 4 xpacs

[little tulip]

sane

p1 cata sucked so bad for content

[strong wing]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[grim jay]

there were only 2 things that made me quit

bfa and sepulcher

sepulcher was so ugly and didnt feel remotely good themewise

so I ditched as much as I could

[little tulip]

gave a few months to get 1800 rating in pvp and quit, got into source engine level design

[whole sand]

on a 5 CP envenom, the pandemic is around 1 sec right? I'm trying to do some WA shit

wait hang on its baked into whispyr's already i think

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[balmy condor]

They see stuff the same time as me but idk, people acting like blizzard killed their dog because tea might auto proc sometimes or because shadowdust is gone. People need to get a fucking grip man it ain’t that serious

[grim jay]

gotta focus on the important things. like the missing effects on the tier 2 remodel

[little tulip]

heheh

[balmy condor]

Like what happens when tea auto procs? You still get the energy, it’s guaranteed 0 waste. Its just the mastery that’s wasted

You’re still getting like 75% of the value of the tea

One out of like 7 tea casts in a fight

And you’re losing 25% of it

Oh noooooooooo

[eternal quail]

despite what i typed earlier, what i have ACTUALLY been doing into 5 targets is - ambush > garrote > garrote > rupture > rupture > fan > ct . then I would ER > fan > env and eat the last stack of mark and my DN from a previous pack. this assumes I have s&d up too. ok I make big boo boo, thanks @grim jay for the info 🙂

[balmy condor]

Muh parse

[lone lava]

Its more about the feeling of hitting the button correctly more than anything

[vapid fable]

This works for me since I forget to hit it all the time anyway

[grim jay]

you are welcome fam, always good to ask. whispyr has those graphics in his guides btw, they often help people to get a better grip of their openers and stuff, like having them open on a 2nd monitor. he did a really nice job there

[balmy condor]

It’s reorganized through a mod that sorts the debuffs in a certain order. Idk how cevs hides his but I have code in the same script that changes the color that then hides it

[lone cairn]

meowdy sin rogues how’s everyone doing today

[little tulip]

evil

also apparently you can air fry marshmellows/chocolate at 200f to make smores dip

[severe sparrow]

I'm not very good at using tea and made an obnoxious wa to try and fix that

[iron carbon]

The color mod hide the thing, yes

[eternal quail]

i just died in game reading this, can you send me 150gold

[severe sparrow]

Blizzard fixing it for me

[grim jay]

extortion!

[iron carbon]

But it doesn't color for me so I put a script

[balmy condor]

Wdym it doesn’t color for you

[little tulip]

yeah like, we weren't attacking ulduar hard modes and algalon

i was kinda down but also not gonna find xfer money back in 2009*

[primal jolt]

i really hope they give way more changes for rogue, im really excited

[severe sparrow]

If your plater isn't doing the colors right you might have another mod/script fuckin w it

I have some m+ stuff that made it not work so i just changed a few things around

[eternal quail]

hahaha. im going to make a WA that covers 1/4 of my screen that tells me "I have DN dickhead"

[lone lava]

Optimally they should design the tea like they do with pet abilities, for casuals you right click the tea to make it auto trigger at 50 energy to relieve a button. Or you choose to manually use it and don't have it auto trigger.

[glad flare]

Someone said earlier that ambush is worse than mutilate cause it does less dmg but I'm checking the tooltips and it says ambush does about 2x mutilate dmg

[severe sparrow]

I like that idea about tea tbh

[iron carbon]

Dunno, I copy paste your mod, and the nameplate went without color

[balmy condor]

The mod reorganizes, the script colors

You need both

[grim jay]

whispyr and LEs weakaura packs now have a purple glow on the 7th CP, like the animacharged blue one, to show that DN is ready. imo the best DN WA and noticeable, since you watch your cp anyways

[proper tapir]

It doesn't proc as much poison or give as many cp

[iron carbon]

They're both mod

I think

[balmy condor]

Then you did something wrong

[severe sparrow]

I was just pouting about luxthos wa having terrible cp stuff last night about that

[lone lava]

Nelf ftw

[severe sparrow]

Was trying to make my own to put on top of his but lazy and went to bed

[tawny pawn]

yeah but dont get to bothered about it, its a open community we will have every level of ppl here,

its not worth it

Sigh -> pin emote -> move on

[iron carbon]

Maybe, but I finally got the colour without the buff icon so I'm happy

[eternal quail]

yeah I'm just bad. I'll make it a bit bigger....

[iron carbon]

So I enjoy with some beers

[limber lion]

Lol

[severe sparrow]

Is your screen massive or is the bottom stuff tiny and this is cropped?

[eternal quail]

the latter

[little tulip]

no like 95% cloak of shadows fail means i got exploded trying to gank the dude at winterspring

[proper tapir]

Mechanical gnome sims the best but we're all going dragon because we think it looks better

[little tulip]

that randomness is kinda fun

[severe sparrow]

I was worried about that ui for a sec ok good

[little tulip]

every 20th pull you just fuck up and wipe the pull cause your fat numbers need a brez lol

[spice surge]

Dps wise no its orc

But dwarf is very very strong to dispel stuff

Which is likely to be better than the small dps gain of other races

[iron carbon]

Btw @balmy condor and @limber lion thanks for helping I can show you tomorrow if you are interested

[limber lion]

Npnp

[tawny pawn]

in a way people are right in complaining about non sense changes.

even if its not that bad

[lone lava]

Is the tea changed to a passive or is it still usable, it dosnt specify in the notes

[austere sorrel]

Both, is what I hear

[tawny pawn]

in the video whispyr says its still usable

[grim jay]

it just has the passive added

[lone lava]

Thats fine then tbh

[grim jay]

to what it is now

[lone lava]

I tought it was purely a passive

[tawny pawn]

it is auto tho

so if you slap below 50

rip

[lone lava]

You dont really do that in aoe, its only going to be a thing for ST

[tawny pawn]

more or less

[lone lava]

So you can still min max the mastery effect on aoe

[eternal quail]

thats full screen. ok done posting pointless screenshots

[austere sorrel]

I wouldn't mind it being "will trigger once per x seconds"

[woeful wigeon]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[tawny pawn]

I mean ye in a way if you think about it, if you are low on energy that might mean you have a lot of dots and debufs

so it can be optimal non intentionaly

but still

[final star]

@balmy condor idk if anyone said but if a Darkest Night buffed Envenom kills the target it now gives you Darkest Night

Instead of it just giving nothing

[eternal quail]

oh shit

[balmy condor]

Yeah they fixed that on….. Monday?

Tuesday?

Idk

[final star]

[balmy condor]

Every day is new shit

[subtle tundra]

will they nerf assa?

[final star]

I haven't noticed it

[subtle tundra]

ugh....

[balmy condor]

Goes to show you why there wasn’t a pin or something about it if it took you almost a week to notice

[spice surge]

There was a blizzard post even

[final star]

if there was actual content

I'd have noticed

[balmy condor]

Yeah surely

[spice surge]

Its not really an issue in actual content

[little tulip]

..i hear they got some next tuesday next tuesday

[earnest remnant]

i noticed it during my weekly quests, when i was doing Deathstalker WA's

[final star]

that's predicated that I'd be playing more

I'm doing my weeklies now

[little tulip]

time to pvp and kb healers lol

[final star]

[spice surge]

Heroic week shouldve been this week

[earnest remnant]

im about to level a warrior in a bit

[little tulip]

if they got 2 healers who knows how that works lol

[final star]

did you see btw

reclaimation

[lone lava]

How did you access the 11.0.5 build btw @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

The whispyr on my server is in leveling greens from legion

Can’t get the name

Despair

[final star]

must be active

[balmy condor]

Ptr

[final star]

as in actively playing on that account

[severe sparrow]

Someone has been sitting on my name on a 43 hunter since SL

[balmy condor]

Yeah but he doesn’t respond to my mail asking to buy the name

[severe sparrow]

deleted it to use it for remix though

[balmy condor]

[final star]

I just been piss chillin

listening to greta van fleet on repeat

gang gang

[royal lodge]

Buy? You're a rogue. Maybe steal it

[terse mesa]

greta van fleet is from my home town

[final star]

poggers

[terse mesa]

they randomly pop up at a bbq joint in town seen em there twice.

[feral mason]

thistle coffee alt talent when

[balmy condor]

Wish I could

[halcyon crypt]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[winged widget]

so the Whispyr I messaged in Dornogal wasn't you?

[balmy condor]

When was this

[winged widget]

yesterday? maybe the day before? idk

[balmy condor]

Uhhhh

[winged widget]

just saw the same, said "hi" and / pet, then left

[balmy condor]

Oh

Idk maybe was afk

I didn’t see it

I have an accent in my name though

í

This guy

[spice surge]

Ive never seen whispyr in dornogal

[winged widget]

you were busy typing here at the time

[spice surge]

Very curious

[winged widget]

[balmy condor]

Yeah true

Weird

[normal mist]

Was he a Void elf in a bad tmog?

[feral mason]

do we know yet when the vault is actually opening btw

[balmy condor]

HEY

[feral mason]

saw conflicting stuff yesterday

[balmy condor]

Well next week raid releases, so that’s the start of filling the vault

[winged widget]

it was a female elf, whether it was blood of void, who knows.

[balmy condor]

So then the week after

[spice surge]

My orc is unmogged

[timid thistle]

!wa

[balmy condor]

Will be opening

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[spice surge]

I have no right to flame

[winged widget]

got my small dose of fanboying for him and left

[normal mist]

Zugzug

[feral mason]

yy but the announcement yesterday said "great vault opens september 17/18"

wasnt sure if that meant it already collected rewards from the week prior

[balmy condor]

Yes

That’s how it’s worked previously at least

[feral mason]

never been worded that way in a post so thats why i was confused

hope they dont lock that shit for yet another week though

[prisma coral]

its the same it has always been

[lime crypt]

so, echoing reprimand not procing deathstalker mark is not gonna be fixed?

[lucid meteor]

no

[lime crypt]

so we dont run deathstalker anymore?

i thought that sims are considering for echoing reprimand to actually proc d. mark if you land on animacharged cp thats < 5 cp

[spice surge]

It doesnt matter much

No its been added

But like, its ~1-1.5% loss from the bug

[lime crypt]

havent tried fatebound yet, is it great? or does it also have some quirks

[limber lion]

It's okay

Nothing special

Super passive

[lime crypt]

well none of our choices are special

[desert cove]

sadly that's just life as a rogue

we get sidelined until the last patch of an xpac

[lime crypt]

thats not true

we do get nerfed the milisecond if we do more damage than hunter

dragonflight ptsd

[clear oar]

Is there a simple way to utilize one of the plater profiles but with quazzis already built profile

[zenith prairie]

I thought fatebound was still lower even with ER but

Bug*

[lime crypt]

snd change is fkin nice tho

[eternal quail]

^

[lime crypt]

only thing that would make me happier would be to delete that skill entirely

[eternal quail]

they have! but you still get it.

best of both imo

[lime crypt]

its a passive but not passive now

hella weird

but i like that they work on the button bloat

[limber lion]

Yes

[lime crypt]

and unnecessary gcds

such as bonespikes

[eternal quail]

Doesn't elaborate. Leaves.

:frenchkiss:

[clear oar]

I pm’d you so we don’t clutter their convo

[limber lion]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[faint path]

So with those changes what happened to assas nothing ? 😄

[haughty flicker]

the Bel on my server is a lvl 54 priest who hasnt played since bfa

very sad

[balmy condor]

We don’t know

[faint path]

oki let's see

[nova aspen]

[vernal oyster]

do the sims assume that ER works perfectly with deathstalker?

[balmy condor]

No

The bugs are implemented

[cobalt sphinx]

hoping they make dsm and dn purely passive maybe on mutilate so that we are down to 4 buttons

maybe even make mutilate a passive too

like devastator

[jade zenith]

Envenom goes off when you reach max combo points auto 🙏

[fading wigeon]

is half a spark availble this week?

[limber lion]

Not important

Should probably sim it

But usually last on the line

[cobalt sphinx]

downgrading my 590 offhand to 571 is a .5% dps loss, -3490 dps

[final warren]

hey guys, im new into this rogue movie! what should I play as for the current dungeons ?

[cobalt sphinx]

all 3 specs are good for dungeons

[split cipher]

Mess around and see what you like

[rotund oak]

u can check the assassination-faq it has links for the guide which encloses every build u wanna know

🙂

[final warren]

I was using the assassination one with deathstalker

doesn't feel bad, but not sure if missing something.

[rotund oak]

thats a good one but if u are compeltely new and wanna play sin should start from fatebound

[cobalt sphinx]

are you using zoldycks talent? or the dragon tempered talent tree

[rotund oak]

its completely passive and u dont have to worry for stuff

[final warren]

zoldyck

[cobalt sphinx]

yeah i like that one for heroics

[final warren]

so fatebound is easier to get started?

[rotund oak]

yeah

somewhat easier

[cobalt sphinx]

fatebound is almost purely passive so it's the easy/boring option

[rotund oak]

ye why not start with the complicated itnerested one

[final warren]

hahaha

[rotund oak]

bro might end up knowing the bugs as well

comes back in an hour with highend math

..

dear lord

[final warren]

👀

[rotund oak]

anyway ye,check stuff and see what u like friend

[final warren]

will do 😉

[rotund oak]

if u have questions from the guide and stuff plenty of ppl here to help

[final warren]

I see, thank you all.

[rotund oak]

there is also a youtube channel which explains almost eveyrthing

its our guides writter

(whispyr)

[final warren]

what's the channel?

[rotund oak]

Whispyr

[final warren]

oh

cool

[short knoll]

Now that we're on the subject, am I missing something about deathstalkers mark? Can you only apply it from ambush stealth, meaning if mobs are pulled into boss and you dont get to stealth,y ou cant apply it on boss?

[rotund oak]

cheers

[balmy condor]

Darkest night

[proper tapir]

Read the last talent at the bottom of the hero tree

[rotund oak]

or if u trigger it from darkest night(aka finishing on a max cp envenom)

but that has to happen after u consume the stacks the mark has

[short knoll]

But for darkest night, you need to make sure you consume the deathstalkers last mark on a previous mob before you can use envenom on boss to get it up again

[rotund oak]

or if the marked target dies

[proper tapir]

Yeah, or if it dies like in dungeons

[short knoll]

Yeah, just seems a bit awkward, but ill get used to it. Also could there be any reason whjy my deathstalkers mark doesnt get reapplied after its consumed? Assuming normal scenario, open on boss with stealth ambush, appliy mark, do rotation, consume mark and it doesnt get re-applied on an envenom?

[proper tapir]

Idk, you got the buff and using at max cp?

[rotund oak]

it bugs out

sometimes

[short knoll]

You get the buff automatically after last consumption right? I make sure to use max combo points, currently at 7

Doesnt seem to work with reprimand either

[rotund oak]

if u have darkest night buff on u

u have 30sec to send a full cp envenom to reapply it yeah

[short knoll]

I havent checked for a buff. I just thoguht "I consumed last mark, I should be apple to send a full cp envenom and get it up again"

but it doesnt happen all the time

will check for buffs

[rotund oak]

darkest night its a buff

can try killing a marked target and it will pop on ur buff bar

or whatever u have to track them

[proper tapir]

I track it with a weakaura

[short knoll]

Is there a cooldown on the buff? 😄

[rotund oak]

internal or for the consumption?

[junior vault]

for outlaw should i run the same enchant as my mainhand?

oops wrong chat

[short knoll]

Nah, just regular cooldown. Or can i send 3 quick 5cp finishers into a max cp envenom and expect to have it up again?

[rotund oak]

30sec

from the moment the mob dies

or u consume the last stack

[short knoll]

thats whats happening then

I didnt know there was a 30 sec cd on it, so I was sending finishers expecting it to be applied straight away

[rotund oak]

yeah if u read the final node on deathstalker

it says exactly how and why and when

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=457058/darkest-night

Darkest Night
Talent
Requires Rogue
Assassination
When you consume the final Deathstalker's Mark from a target or your target dies, gain 40 Energy and your next Envenom cast with maximum combo points is guaranteed to critically strike, deals 60% additional damage, and applies 3 stacks of Deathstalker's Mark to the target.

[shell lodge]

is it worth pooling your energy before deathmark/kingsbane windows and letting envenom fall off

[short knoll]

I mean, ive read it over and over agian and even now when you link it. but I dont see 30 sec cd mentioned anywhere 😄

[rotund oak]

yeah u need to check that

its a buff

just go kill something rly quick

not much to argue

[short knoll]

Nono, im not arguing. Thanks for info. Its just not transparent in the description of the talent. Its straight up missing.

Appreciate it though, finally gave me clarity on what im doing wrong

[rotund oak]

ideally u dont wanna overcap never on energy or cps but the more the better i guess,if u press ur cds and ther eis no energy u cant do any dmg so..

[rotund oak]

you are welcome fam

[shell lodge]

in st there's energy issues so im wondeirng if like 10 seconds before kingsbane comes up

i should start thinking about saving energy enough to not cap out

but so i can spam envenom during hte window

[rotund oak]

u will find urself starving sometimes yeah thats why we exercise pooling

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

• For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[wicked vector]

Okay smart people, I haven't played this game in quite a while just coming back. SHOULD I be upgrading heroic gear all the way to 8/8?

if not, why?

[thorn fjord]

You can use your weathered crests but i'd hold carved iirc

[rotund oak]

there isnt much to it.By next week most current heroic gear will be outdated coz m0s start from 593

[wicked vector]

Okay, and when that gear is out do we use all the carved on it? Or do we then want to hold carved for m2-6?

[rotund oak]

that being said u should upgrade wpns and trinkets and get around 580-585 ilvl and cap ur valorstones from there

[thorn fjord]

valor grind makes me loco

Im prob going to sit at like 1200

[rotund oak]

im capped in all my characters

my mage 582 my rogue 585 my druid 580

[celest pasture]

Hey everyone, I’m getting into assassination and was curious what buttons (if any) don’t really need to be on my hot bars

[thorn fjord]

Pick pocket

[eternal quail]

detection

[tired gull]

factually incorrect

how else will you farm wax

[eternal quail]

wait

shit.

[celest pasture]

Explain?

[silk spoke]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[celest pasture]

Huh… are those obtained by pickpocketing certain mobs?

[rotund oak]

bruh why dont u say them what do they have to pickpocket rather than linking some random item they dont know

[haughty flicker]

do quest for the vent in gundagakaskdafad

then you can pickpocket from kobolds

[tired gull]

bruh because idc

[normal mist]

If you don't want to be helpful, just don't make things worse either

[rotund oak]

...

[tired gull]

could have easily replied with the way to get it, instead, flames me 👍

[strange python]

I really don’t think clutch‘s answer was that bad

[rotund oak]

i didnt flame u what

[strange python]

Someone said explain and he explained what wax is

[eternal quail]

🧯

[strange python]

Could’ve easily been the question

[haughty flicker]

[tired gull]

is this helpful https://www.wowhead.com/item=220156/bubbling-wax

[celest pasture]

I appreciate him linking the item so I can search on google now

Oh thanks clutch

[rotund oak]

much better

[strange python]

See the world is not always dark

[tired gull]

i can go on

[normal mist]

Thank you, that was actually pretty helpful

[wispy leaf]

@balmy condor i have a question about your plater profile: why is the nameplate still green even after caustic spatter debuff is expired?

[tired gull]

😄

[hardy mesa]

Anyone more knowledgable than me: How is the 11.0.5 changes affecting rogues, assass in particular?

[normal mist]

[hardy mesa]

Dps going up or down? :P

[marble hemlock]

[normal mist]

AH AH

Rekt

[hardy mesa]

Thanks

[balmy condor]

Hm, definitely shouldn’t be

[eternal quail]

nah thats too helpful, gosh

[marble hemlock]

i only have a mouse rn

[balmy condor]

Haven’t seen that happen personally

[tired gull]

tbf i really thought he was asking what wax was, didn't even think to explain to pickpocket certain mobs

[normal mist]

Fair enough

[faint path]

Should we even farm that wax?

[strange python]

Dw that’s how it read to me too

[marble hemlock]

does it stack with weapon oils?

[whole sand]

DS feels so good for ST

[haughty flicker]

you dont have to farm it, but its only a bit worse than whetstones while not costing thousands of gold

[normal mist]

Its fine, its fucking late, people are tired (i know i am) Thanks for letting him know

[tired gull]

it's free and not much else to do in game atm ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tired gull]

are... are you a euro?

[normal mist]

yeah

[spice surge]

Nop

[normal mist]

22:31 for me

[tired gull]

my condolensces

[normal mist]

You a merican?

[marble hemlock]

ah oke

so its still mana oil gaming

[tired gull]

🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸

[spice surge]

Whetstones are better but ye

[normal mist]

I could hear an eagle in the distance

[marble hemlock]

did they get buffed?

thought oil was bis

[subtle tundra]

playing another game so you dont fucking burn out

[spice surge]

No

[tired gull]

actually... that's a great idea

[marble hemlock]

hm

well, TIL

[spice surge]

But like, theyre not that much better than using dragonflight runes either way

[normal mist]

I had an itch for D3 recently, played 2/3 days, left.

[tired gull]

i HATE getting the d3 itch

[spice surge]

Because enchants, gems, embellishments and consumes apparently need to suck

[subtle tundra]

idk i just rerolled another poe character

fucking around

[spice surge]

Besides the pot

The pot fucks

[normal mist]

This time i wanted to do a multishot DH build

played until GR 100-110

and stopped

and i feel happy about it

[tired gull]

pretty much the only d3 build i ever play

[subtle tundra]

maybe sell my previous character gear to buy good things for this cause i wont farm hundreds of divs

[viral spire]

btw

is wax bis for rogue overall? considering other weapon oils and stuff?

[haughty flicker]

nah

[tired gull]

it's bis for you wallet

[haughty flicker]

normal whetstones are better

[viral spire]

whetstone better?

[haughty flicker]

but uh

[viral spire]

other oils suck ass tho

[tired gull]

i'm a poor, so probably sticking with wax

[iron valve]

lol we WAXIN

[viral spire]

only whetstone looks good

ye we WAXIN

[spice surge]

Can just buy old runes

[viral spire]

petition for :WAXIN:

[haughty flicker]

df runes are still good too yeah

[scenic nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/wax-on-wax-off-mr-miyagi-daniel-larusso-daniel-san-gif-24814730

[haughty flicker]

i think ret actually prefers df rune

[tired gull]

i didn't play in df, what runes we talkin

[whole sand]

im out here farming that 50g bismuth so i can be a whetstone gamer

[proven jasper]

Buzzing runes most likely for assa

gives like 3-400 crit

each

[tired gull]

i just want wax to show up in my logs

[viral spire]

we still WAX i think

faunas might be worse than WAX

[queen egret]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[tired gull]

i stg, if i have ANY issues with dsm in raid, i'm hardswapping to coinflip and never looking back

[viral spire]

also lava forged cockwheel ring meme or actually usable?

[whole sand]

we're gonna have to save vanish on ulgrax to reapply DS i'd imagine

[tired gull]

dae ??

[whole sand]

when he does his portal shit

[viral spire]

[tired gull]

i enjoy being stalked by a spoopy ghost from time to time

[proven jasper]

Ive had that in my rogues bags for like 4 years

Still no clue what the point of it is lmao

[tired gull]

wrath pre patch baybee

[proven jasper]

but yeah ghost dude is a vibe

Ahh

[willow cloud]

is dashing scoundrel ever viable?

can't figure out what i'd flex for it

[wicked vector]

I'm a little lost on when exactly we should be vanishing on ST

[sinful terrace]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[limber lion]

Whenever Improved Garrote is in pandemic so you can extend it

[wicked vector]

bet

[warped moon]

🍵

[orchid cedar]

how was the energy command?

that tells you you woll run out of energy on ST?

[storm hedge]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[orchid cedar]

ty

[winter storm]

Hi! Sorry for the stupid question. I can't figure how to have 7 combo points. After deeper strategem I only have 6. Can anyone help? I can't seem to find anything about it

[tall atlas]

check your pockets

[proper tapir]

One deeper strat in the spec tree

[proper tapir]

Under CT

[winter storm]

oh my god THANK YOU soooo mcuh

I've been going insane for the past week

[maiden sierra]

whats our overall best weapon enchant for both raid and m+?

like i aint changing enchants between content

[proper tapir]

Power then

[maiden sierra]

cheers

[crimson jackal]

Or just have a knife for raid and for mythic+

[maiden sierra]

Holy man has a large cranium

his wrinkles have wrinkles

[whole sand]

reminds me i still need to farm that enchant

[maiden sierra]

[crimson jackal]

Buy it

[maiden sierra]

m-maybe i dont need ehnchants....

[crimson jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dare-ya-dare-dare-ya-ace-venture-ace-gif-23721821

[proper tapir]

Get R3, it's better

[whole sand]

oh shit its on the ah

oh no wait

that's not the recipe ffs

[split willow]

Do I have to reapply garrote and rupture after death mark ?

[flint marsh]

no only if they are gonna run out

[waxen belfry]

can someone explain this? im stupid and i dont understand

[midnight mist]

Yo guys !

[eternal quail]

lights up specific combo points. just one without Resounding Clarity (the next talent down), 3 with clarity. If you generatte to that number and spend, it does the thing

[ripe carbon]

it treats the 3/4/5 total combo points as being 7 combo points

[thorn fjord]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/846466533621366784.gif?quality=lossless

[tall atlas]

sexy at all angles

[midnight mist]

tyty

[tall atlas]

a right angled god

[woeful wigeon]

wtf blizz

[midnight mist]

wtf wtf !

[tall atlas]

i know blizz you need to manually set the prices of items on the AH and stop this free market shit

[tired gull]

Hiya!

[woeful wigeon]

na why not icreasing drop rate of that blue item they need to craft consumabels

[waxen belfry]

everything is expensive irl and in game

[tall atlas]

cost of lvling crisis

[woeful wigeon]

next week go raid you tell raid lead sorry cant buy gems enchants or consumabel only got 25k XD

[cobalt sphinx]

get sat for someone who aint broke

[runic hinge]

Are you happy with the blade flurry range change

[midnight mist]

its like

a 1yard range increase

bf is still 8 yard

why is shuriken storm and the sin thing 11 yard

while we have to be in melee ?

[cobalt sphinx]

are you throwing your swords

[midnight mist]

also the initial hit of bf is like 7 yard for some reason

[cobalt sphinx]

because i'm throwing my knives

[midnight mist]

cause they forgot about it

[tall atlas]

well bf flails their arms

[midnight mist]

so you press bf and dont get cps

[tall atlas]

so

makes sense

[midnight mist]

half the time

xdd d

[woeful wigeon]

you just have to press 1 action

XD

[runic hinge]

I mean we still have to be in melee of our main target as well

Not like I stand 11 yards away and only press fan for damage

[lunar pond]

I mean you either have gold or profession shuffle. But even with the later you need af ton of gold.

[rain oyster]

1 shiv charge you shiv last half of KB right?

[midnight mist]

well not for fan of knife which is what i mean

[runic hinge]

Yeah last 8 seconds

[midnight mist]

why is it longer range, while i need to be in melee and mine is shorter

isnt it kinda strange

cause like lets say you have a slightly spread aoe scenario right

you can stand in between 2 far guys

cause you can be out of melee range anyway

[woeful wigeon]

tbh sinds shadowland with the gear system there i lost so mutch gold i wasnt able to catch up the lost of gold in last 2 expantions XD

[runic hinge]

But if I can’t melee I can’t envenom

[midnight mist]

so it would make sense ot be the oposite

yes but we are talking about the aoe elements here

stay focused

!

[balmy condor]

Envenom is our aoe

[carmine tartan]

this guy wants outlaw to be a ret paladin so bad

[midnight mist]

im talking about the actual aoe effects thing

[sterile violet]

Ayoooo whispyr are you THE whispyr with the rogue guide on YT

[cyan summit]

is it ok to run out of energy quick for single target bosses or im doing something wrong ?

[balmy condor]

No that’s some other guy

[strange python]

No he just pretends

[woeful wigeon]

thy shud make outlaw --> combat so they stop crying

[strange python]

This whispyr is a gardener

[sterile violet]

My guy thank you so much

[balmy condor]

[cyan summit]

im doing this but it feel like my damage falls out after the first rotation

[sterile violet]

You made me understand the rogue perfectly

[midnight mist]

anyway i didnt come here to talk about outlaw i was just dropping a lil hi !

[balmy condor]

Should be near empty at the end of that yeh

[midnight mist]

bye bye

red people

[sterile violet]

Best guide on youtube

[normal mist]

bye zac

[balmy condor]

Ty

[normal mist]

have a good one

[balmy condor]

Glad they help

[cyan summit]

ok and i just tea after that rotation and do it again ?

[sterile violet]

Tremendously thank you so much

[balmy condor]

You only tea during shiv

But you don’t have CDs after that

[cyan summit]

both shivs ?

[balmy condor]

So kinda hard to do it again

[cyan summit]

ye xD so just spam mutilate into envenom ?

[balmy condor]

If you need the energy that bad, sure why not

[balmy condor]

No, you maintain envenom for uptime

[cyan summit]

what do u mean by that

[balmy condor]

Envenom gives you a buff

Maintain the buff

[woeful wigeon]

@balmy condor any news about they gone fix the bugs that are still open on the checklist before the raid opens ?

[molten flicker]

I'm very confused about the trinkets cuz when I sim through raidbots I end up with conductors wax whistle and ravenous honey buzzer over for example ara-kara sacbrood, should I just disregard the sim and go for the trinket bis lists?

[cyan summit]

i guess ill macro that

[balmy condor]

No

[cyan summit]

ohh ok ty

[balmy condor]

No

[cyan summit]

why not ?

[balmy condor]

Sim over any list, but neither of your trinkets are from season 1 so they’re not listed in guides

[cobalt sphinx]

you're safe to trust the sims

[cyan summit]

u always shiv before bane yes ?

[cobalt sphinx]

honey buzzer is the best multitarget trinket available until it's fixed

[balmy condor]

Cause… you don’t need tea right on every shiv?

[cyan summit]

ah ok i thought i do for the mastery

[balmy condor]

Tea is for energy

[runic hinge]

@balmy condor the inevitable end change, does that change anything with cold blood at all or am I still avoiding it in dm

Or with edge case

[balmy condor]

It’s just a wording change

[woeful wigeon]

we all have to admit @balmy condor been quite nice and soft on his reply's XD atm

[balmy condor]

They’d have to change how edge case itself works for any actual change

[runic hinge]

Okay

[storm forum]

I need whispyr to call me a slur

[waxen belfry]

is whispyr normally mean

[balmy condor]

Depends who you ask or how much they take it personally

[subtle tundra]

even when you tell me bad things, i think you mean them nicely

[waxen belfry]

you should ban people who talk badly about you

😉

[subtle tundra]

you wouldnt hurt a soul, whispar

[molten flicker]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pMZTvcHNjwNv8J1zznXvCq (:

[balmy condor]

[storm forum]

Whispyr is usually a nice guy but sometimes he gets overwhelmed by people who can't read pins asking the same question over and over again.

Also sometimes people talk about restealths

[woeful wigeon]

exactly then its fun chat XD

[molten flicker]

do we not use ambush from vanish?

[normal mist]

Whispyr is nice until he reads:

• Scaling;
• Haste %?;
• Pre raid bis where?;
• Bis list where?;

[waxen belfry]

good thing i read wowhead guides

😄

[storm forum]

We sometimes do for deathstalker

[spice surge]

Changing the name so it doesnt have the literal exact same name as a sub talent is a pretty decent idea too, not sure why they were the same to begin with

[haughty flicker]

should i take double vanish for when my tank chain pulls? i keep telling them i lose so much dps from not being able to restealth but these dumb pugs wont listen

[molten flicker]

but when just vanishing for bleeds we don't?

[waxen belfry]

i dont think tanks care about rogues

[storm forum]

But usually we get it from pull and don't need to reapply it

[waxen belfry]

😦

[spice surge]

Preraid bis

[wide oasis]

go night elf, profit.

[storm forum]

So yeah just bleeds from vanish 99% of the time

[normal mist]

TBF they only care about themselves. And the healers in case they are a couple

[normal mist]

ohh let me add

[cyan summit]

@balmy condor do u recommend icy vines for guides ?

[cobalt sphinx]

people are also mysteriously offended by m+ players in here too

[spice surge]

Whispyr writes the wowhead guide, figures hed probably recommend that one

[normal mist]

Icyveins and Wowhead are both good sources of information

[balmy condor]

It’s the same info either way

[molten flicker]

how come? isn't ambush just stronger mutilate? and we can still use empowered bleeds after ambush?

[haughty flicker]

its not very mysterious once you spend some time in here and see what they say

[balmy condor]

If you prefer icyveins layout go for it

[spice surge]

Ambush isnt a stronger mutilate no

Theyre about the same

[waxen belfry]

Do you write the icyveins one too?

[normal mist]

Seli does

[waxen belfry]

oh ok

[balmy condor]

I do not

I write wowhead and method

[cobalt sphinx]

rather immature to apply sweeping generalizations to any group of tens of thousands of people

[haughty flicker]

not as immature as m+ players

[normal mist]

Spend enough time here and you'll understand his PoV

[storm forum]

If the guide writers are in the same discord they usually just say the same things cause they're working on the same sims and with the same TCs together.

[haughty flicker]

i actually dont have that pov

i just understand it

[cobalt sphinx]

yeah i can get that, but also you shouldn't let bad apples spoil the bunch or whatever that saying is

[normal mist]

There are a LOT of bad apples

[haughty flicker]

i was never a fan of apples

like

[whole sand]

tree's fucked

[haughty flicker]

they're ok

but oranges are way cooler

[normal mist]

Especially the "i follow X streamer and the guidewritter is wrong" ones

[balmy condor]

It is inaccurate to apply sweeping generalizations to groups of thousands of people, that’s why I decide to describe the m+ community at large based on the common average, which is idiots

[normal mist]

xD

[storm forum]

As an idiot, I resent that

[plain whale]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[cobalt sphinx]

most people are idiots

[cyan summit]

m0 starts in september 10 ?

[normal mist]

true and real

[storm forum]

Tuesday/ Wednesday reset yeah

[waxen belfry]

wow this entire tree is just about flipping coins and dispatch

[feral mason]

which m0 though

[waxen belfry]

weird

[feral mason]

seasonal or tww

[normal mist]

seasonal

[storm forum]

What's dispatch?

[haughty flicker]

i think its actually cata m0

[balmy condor]

Seasonal is the 17th

No?

[feral mason]

dawg idk

[normal mist]

used to be eviscerate

[feral mason]

Blizz is too vague man

[quick condor]

Hey, do we not have to use fok if we´ve skilled "Vicious Venoms" in ST? (Deathstalker)

[haughty flicker]

they said its seasonal m0 on 10th

in an article

[storm forum]

What's eviscerate?

[haughty flicker]

that im too lazy to go find

[feral mason]

This release schedule makes no sense anymore

[normal mist]

no

[quick condor]

aight, tyty

[fathom cove]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[proper ravine]

!talents

[normal mist]

wowhead/icyveins guide for talents

!guides

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[proper ravine]

the bleed talents in sticky notes dont work anymore

[desert saffron]

is there any reason not to full slam dawnthread crafts now (if thats the best m+ route) and prepare to insta craft next reset for double

[normal mist]

Check the pins

[normal mist]

CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYMjZmxMWmBAAAAAgZD2mBAAAAAg22mZGegZGjZmZZWGMGzMzMjZmZsttMmBYzsMwAWCWGmADLA

Above is the Bleed Deathstalker build

Below is the Bleed Fatebound build

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[errant trail]

Whats everyone crafting for sparks?

Has anyone made any choices

[slate crown]

I hate to make choices

[normal mist]

Some craft dagger

some craft wrists/belt/boots

some ring

[errant trail]

keep in mind im enjoying fatebound gaming

[normal mist]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

You can freely use weathered crests to craft any 590's you'd like. Preferences currently are wrist/belt/rings.

The current "best" embellishment is Ascension on a dagger with a nerubian patch on wrist. This is very overtuned compared to other embellishments and nerfs/buffs are expected.
The current "safe" embellishment to craft is dawnthread on wrist/belt, as this will most likely be generically good.
Blizzard has been tuning embellishments near daily since the expansion has come out. Because of this, IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED TO CHASE BIS EMBELLISHMENTS OR USE SPARKS CURRENTLY
Towards the start of raid release recommendations will update everywhere.

[runic hinge]

I aint crafting shit. It’s too expensive and the content doesn’t matter for another ten days

[normal mist]

I'm also holding

Lucky me crafted 2 daggers already and got some materials r3 from resourcefulness

[cosmic compass]

https://tenor.com/view/hodor-game-of-thrones-go-t-holdthedoor-gif-11030514778700227449

[haughty flicker]

im just too poor

[normal mist]

how!

Play the game!

[haughty flicker]

i do play the game

im not even back up to 1m

[normal mist]

I just did 30k from leveling from 77 to 80 with herbs and ores

xD

[cosmic compass]

same, playing with like 5-15k everyseason

[snow kindle]

its like 70k for a full set

[haughty flicker]

70k too much

[snow kindle]

if you do enchanting you can cut that by half

[haughty flicker]

plus i'd have to interact with trade chat

and thats a price i'll never pay

[normal mist]

The trick is NOT buying anything for like 2 weeks

Or have friends

[haughty flicker]

yeah thats not gonna happen

[normal mist]

that don't slack their professions

[balmy condor]

I spent like 1.2 mil on profession stuff this expac

[tawny junco]

Or have an organized guild

[haughty flicker]

guild deadge so thats not happening either

[normal mist]

What did you decide to level?

[nimble tartan]

wth

[balmy condor]

Jewel craft gems mainly

[tawny junco]

Cooking

[snow kindle]

590 gear only good if you are a solo player and want to raid day 1

[keen tree]

can someone link the whyspry plater plz

[balmy condor]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[nimble tartan]

i was broke and then the binding recipe dropped for me in the weekly and now i have generational wealth

[keen tree]

thx dude

[unborn wharf]

lmao if vendors offered the same gear for triple the price im going there

[haughty flicker]

based

i should do theater on my alts actually

maybe i get lucky

[balmy condor]

I made some inscriptions day on like Monday night

[slate crown]

I haven't made much with gems unfortunately yet, but I'm just waiting for launch, people aren't investing in their gear much rn

[balmy condor]

By crafting ordering 35 jewel crafting treatises

[haughty flicker]

i made like 600k buying greens from the ah and disenchanting them

then the ah broke

and now prices are fucked

[slate crown]

most immediate shuffles like that are over

[haughty flicker]

so rip

[slate crown]

not necessarily b/c the ah broke

[haughty flicker]

yeah it wouldve ended anyway

[slate crown]

just like, the new-expansion gigarush is over

[haughty flicker]

but i couldve abused it more

[slate crown]

but the ah didn't help

[narrow girder]

hey can someone help me to set my keybinds and ui I'm a new WoW player and don't know anything bout it

[slate crown]

it was still a clusterfuck

[unborn wharf]

do the ol' gathering 9-5 now boys

[slate crown]

Gathering is solid and fun. I just like other crafting for variety but if you just like vibing out and want a consistent source of things while listening to music or podcasts and like dragonriding to click on stuff, it's great

[haughty flicker]

was even using an army of sewer rats to steal greens from cheaper servers and transfer them with warbank

was great

[slate crown]

it's not the most gph but it's always reliable

[unborn wharf]

imo use 1-4 for keybinds you use a lot (mutilate, envenom, garrote, rupture), Q, E, R, F, Z, X and shift + all those and that should be a good start

its all about comfort for you though so just kinda gotta play it and figure it out

[balmy condor]

my computer restarted and told me to windows 10 is going to have end of life in 2025

but I hit decline upgrade anyway

[molten flicker]

but x is sit

[spice surge]

No

[balmy condor]

because those fuckers at microsoft can take my windows 10 from my cold dead fucking hands

[unborn wharf]

yeah gathering + youtube/netflix is the way

[narrow girder]

please just give me your keybinds man all of them 😭

[tawny junco]

You need to let go of the past, win 11 is great

[unborn wharf]

oh god dont unbind your sit button

hold up

[soft void]

Whispyr, is the pre-season tab on the wowhead guide supposed to go somewhere?

[balmy condor]

yeh, to the overview page

cause fuck preseason

[warped moon]

windows tent ⛺

[soft void]

Fair enough

[rustic zealot]

!BUGS

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Bug tracker: https://github.com/SimCMinMax/WoW-BugTracker/labels/Rogue

[warped moon]

windows foolishly trying to count higher than final fantasy

absolute idiots

buffoons

[unborn wharf]

theses are what my keybinds look like currently but its super all over the place and doesnt look nice, i dont necessarily recommend lol

[runic hinge]

Windows 11 is making me regret getting a new pc

[unborn wharf]

it was just when i was learning hte game

I would go "Oh i wanna press this button" and figure out some hotkey for it

so it really all comes down to comfort

[royal lantern]

i LOVE that i will be forced to updated into it in roughly half a year 🙂

[wanton depot]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[desert saffron]

ty, tldr basically, hold incase blizzard, blizzards ur embel

[snow kindle]

why i have it but it feels p clean

[normal mist]

pretty much

Dagger isn't a bad choice overall per example, but i rather have certainty about embellishments in case they get buffed and craft with that knowledge than doing random stuff .

To be fair i only have 3 choices i can craft myself: boots, belt and dagger

[dark token]

brother its <5k per craft

prob more like 1k for most pieces

[normal mist]

I believe he's talking about Spark items

or atleast i thought he was

[slate crown]

I really need to save this link somewhere so I don't have to keep searching for it every time someone asks

#assassination message

This is mostly still accurate, it's from DF but I haven't changed much, just as an example

[runic hinge]

I got blue screened cause if I don’t restart my pc every time right after i wake it up eventually it’ll crash my sound card

Because windows 11 sound enhancement effects won’t just stay off

[magic dust]

Does anyone have an idea why Fatebound is dealing like not even half the dmg as it does in my sims? I literally spend 2 hours at the target dummy and in logs and couldnt figure it out.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3b4rz749ZE2BYGZfWWK1cX
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/d2HvZWMjrGQtJ164#fight=18&type=damage-done&source=11

[obtuse field]

@slate crown I appreciate the response on wago regarding the pooling markers and the triggers in your pack. I was curious, is there a way to get rid of the timer on the left hand side of the Darkest Night icon? I was looking and I didn't see anything related to it

[thorn fjord]

You're set to 10 min

[crimson jackal]

My UI, Keybinds range from R/T/F/G/V/mouse button/mouse scroll/Mouse button 4,5,6/ then Shift+ those individual keys and buttons

[magic dust]

Why is that an issue?

[thorn fjord]

oh misread

[royal lantern]

@runic hinge i did it

it finished TWW

all 3 grind mounts done

[runic hinge]

Maybe that’s what I’ll do this weekend

[royal lantern]

the shards broke me

so many dead bees

[whole sand]

the most important thing to get into the habit of doing is having the same keybinds doing the same thing across all your characters - for instance, my kick/cc's are always v/shift-V, my movement is always x/shift-X, my CDS are always 1-5, my defensives shift-1-5

[royal lantern]

went 5 hours with no shard drop

[haughty flicker]

i need to start the bee genocide soon

that cloudrook must be mine

[slate crown]

NGL I don't know why I have it in both places. Personally I prefer it over the combo point rather than the icon.

But, to remove it from the left side, you would go into the Combo Points aura, and go to Text 1, then you have a couple options:

1. you could just delete the text entirely. The icon is right next to the combo points, so if you want to get rid of both, you can just delete the text.
2. if you want the icon to still show but don't want the text, in the text field delete the %4.p part of the text, so it only reads %4.i.

[cobalt sphinx]

finally a Q and E enjoyer

everyone else is wasting their Q and E buttons

[slate crown]

Whoops forgot to include the screenshot

[whole sand]

q and e are the best binds

[haughty flicker]

i feel like most people have q and e bound

[crimson jackal]

What about Ctrl Q and Ctrl W and CTrl E?

[whole sand]

crtl W is some cursed shit

[molten flicker]

^

[royal lantern]

Q is kidney for me, in case i need a fast emergency stun

[obtuse field]

Awesome, thank you!

[crimson jackal]

You just mad you can't wrap your head around using it

[haughty flicker]

actually same for me

q is always cc for me

for whatever class im on

[slate crown]

[royal lantern]

shift+W is the best keybind for sprint

cus, common, thats sprinting in EVERY SINGLE GAME

[molten flicker]

I have movement on qwes and use a and d as binds

[whole sand]

[royal lantern]

(i dont have sprit on shift W)

[unborn wharf]

i have blind on shift+2 on outlaw and sin, but for sub its on G and its just all bad keep your keybinds consistent

im in too deep

[royal lantern]

the "close to WASD" keybinds for me are

Q for kidney/General CC skills on other classes

E is proc stuff

F is always interupt

R is always spam aoe skill (aka FoK on assa)

[haughty flicker]

q cc e is kind of flex for me f is movement r is big cd

[crimson jackal]

Shift + E is movement, Ctrl Scroll Button is stancing

[whole sand]

some of you are fucking unhinged

[normal mist]

TRUE

I still have Q and E binded for movement

[crimson jackal]

Ctrl W is interact key

[haughty flicker]

you're welcome to your opinion

[thorn fjord]

!fuu