assassination

[devout mist]

im not saying its not

[rotund oak]

and trust me,its hard for me to say something's rly worth

[devout mist]

but i hate changing addons

so im not going plater for yoink purposes only

[terse orchid]

Sometimes I wonder if I'd enjoy other classes too if they had an equivalent to Infexxious/Whispyr

Doing all the work for me

[grim jay]

Does, just have to add specifics. Like I had to remove some unimportant debuffs for those aswell

But that aint much work

[normal mist]

I absolutely love them and think Blizzard artists did an amazing job. Especially druid, monk, warrior, priest and rogue
Edit: I forgot to mention paladin. Absolutely peak

[grim jay]

Infexxious

[devout mist]

monk and rogue holy shit 100% agree

might have to level my monk for that tier set alone

[red cloak]

like what? deep wounds? or like stuff from other players* that i literally dont care about

during m+

[grim jay]

Really? Expected for criticism for atleast the rogue set

[terse orchid]

his WA used to be the titts

[grim jay]

Ye deep wounds is a good example

It just happens anyways

No need to track

[red cloak]

true i got WAs for that

im talking nameplates only

so that will work

[terse orchid]

Rogue t2 set is only good compared to current tier set, but with Aberrus who even needs anything else

[grim jay]

Idk, I only watched some Videos sometimes. Its the guy with the funny accent right?

[terse orchid]

Scottish, yeah

[royal lantern]

monk is the clear winner

paladin funny enough 1 of the losers

the set looks so....blocky?

[grim jay]

Ye, thats a cool one

[terse orchid]

I don't get the hype for Judgment when you can just wear Challenge Mode or Arathi

[fierce sigil]

Guys What is the Problem with „the rookery“? In This dungeon my Hero Talent just barely exists because i keep getting knocked out of stealth🙁

[grim jay]

Idk I sometimes swap back to old sets if im feeling fancy. T2 with duskblade still goes hard, legion s1 elite set still my favorite tho

[grim jay]

Even if you do you just play your capstone

[red cloak]

like this?

[royal lantern]

judgment set is peak "Male Human Paladin, player is in his mid 30s and spends all his free time on the forum/reddit"

[normal mist]

Rogue looks amazing. It's a good remastered version. We have yet to see it in game

[terse orchid]

A remastered turd is still a turd

[kindred nimbus]

i believe you need to add the ones you dont want to show to the debuff blacklist in plater

[normal mist]

Human paladin with remastered judgment will be my next character

[royal lantern]

thanks for the indepth answer

[grim jay]

Idk imo its kinda bright on the red and its seemingly missing the effects

[novel star]

rogue hood not being dark enough doesn’t matter to me. pandaren cant wear hoods without looking stupid

everything else is tight

i luv the models

[grim jay]

Also imo t2 rogue still didnt look that dated

[royal lantern]

plays panda rogue->not rocking the shado pan set

smh my head

[grim jay]

So its not as much of a step up

[terse orchid]

can't wear anything (maybe the exception is shadopan) without looking stupid

[novel star]

i don’t like it that much idk

[normal mist]

It's your opinion man idk what to say

[novel star]

i play pandaren because i love my beautiful thick blue wife

idc about the lore

[royal lantern]

opinions are opinions

[normal mist]

I'm pretty sure good stuff will be cooked with it

[terse orchid]

you married to smurfatte?

[novel star]

i am married to the panda on my world of war craft log in screen

the blue fur colours are so sick lookin

[devout mist]

im still not sure if this tier i go with the gnome rogue or the panda rogue

[terse orchid]

Dracthyr, duh

[devout mist]

screw that

[terse orchid]

Get that tailswipe

[brave trench]

maybe a stupid question what is meant by + patch in terms of dagger with ascension?

[novel star]

join the panda rogue club

[devout mist]

anorexic race

[novel star]

we’re so under represented

[devout mist]

ye panda is a big contender....

im very tempted

i think i got a male draenei aswell

didnt level it tho

[terse orchid]

if you wanna be big, just be tauren

[devout mist]

i wanna be round

[novel star]

female panda tho

[devout mist]

panda

nah, male panda all the way

[novel star]

also yea tauren are ugly as hell even compared to male panda

[devout mist]

u are a steathly wrecking ball

[grim jay]

Im still thinking about going nelf for my alliance rogue. Mogs look kinda fine, flips are cool, but man the ears

[novel star]

part of me wants to be a worgen sometimes

to go full furry

but idk

[wicked lynx]

[devout mist]

my boost money goes on a goblin rogue

[novel star]

too committed to panda at this point

[devout mist]

still lvl 10

[novel star]

been one since the very start

[devout mist]

gotta level that guy

[novel star]

why ever play a goblin when u can play vulpera??

[devout mist]

woah woah woah

[novel star]

same animations but cute

[devout mist]

we're not going there

vulpera players are sus

[novel star]

https://tenor.com/view/avoiding-fennec-fast-gif-26563821

[storm hedge]

Writhing Armor Banding from LW

[royal lantern]

??????

this is #assassination

[novel star]

vulp rogue crankin in raid pov

[royal lantern]

i would spam character pics now

[normal mist]

Do it

[royal lantern]

but faction transfer happend

[normal mist]

Don't do it

[royal lantern]

[terse orchid]

Vulp players are cranking something alright

[novel star]

they’re just so cute

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/ollie-boop-paws-boop-gentle-boop-gif-10872413038021902498

[devout mist]

this is cute

[novel star]

vulp and zanda troll best allied races easily

[royal lantern]

vulpera /sleep cures depression

[royal lantern]

ye cus they are basically new races togheter with kultirans lol

[grim jay]

Troll easily one of the most ugly races

[novel star]

trolls are ugly but zanda trolls are just sexy man

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/'3-gif-13462645256189803360

[novel star]

i’d let a zanda troll beat me up and thank them 4 it

real shit

[royal lantern]

dont let quake see the #1080572530554835072 breach

[balmy condor]

oh so when you say it

it's fine

[terse orchid]

as long as mechagnome exists, every other race looks great by comparison

[balmy condor]

but WHEN I SAY IT

[novel star]

LOLLLL

[wicked lynx]

[novel star]

leave me ALONE

[wicked lynx]

nobody said that

[cursive frost]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[sharp viper]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[grim jay]

Tauren troll gnome dwarf literally the ugliest races possible

No matter which variation

Draenei pretty close aswell

[sharp viper]

wow racist

[crisp pine]

we're all changing to the scalies anyway

[royal lantern]

found the 1,75 guy

trying to feel superior to short people and hatin tall guys

[sharp viper]

true

[royal lantern]

[grim jay]

Im 1.86

[sharp viper]

not even 1.90m

[storm hedge]

Still short though not 1.9

[sharp viper]

you go short king

[grim jay]

Wait until I wear heels

[royal lantern]

you know that the wow player racial brainrot is deep when people say that, while the actual scalie refuses to do it because they have no transmog

[subtle tundra]

i honestly couldnt. tried it.
no thanks

[terse orchid]

But that's one of the short people lol

[crisp pine]

Other classes can stay in Visage form tho
So maybe more people will play them now actually

[grim jay]

Arent you fighting in human form with the other races?

[royal lantern]

laughs in 1,98

short king

[terse orchid]

I see it as an upgrade to human racials tbh

[crisp pine]

You're kinda just a human/belf
with some small scales

[grim jay]

Literally featured in the next lotr movie

As a tree

[royal lantern]

ye, same IQ

[terse orchid]

Tree?

[grim jay]

[terse orchid]

He is no tree

[grim jay]

Thats rough mate

Now I feel bad

[crisp pine]

I lowkey don't wanna change from undead
Cause I love ignoring Fears every 2 minutes

That shit keeps me going fr

[royal lantern]

then dont????

jesus christ

[grim jay]

But it isnt?

[terse orchid]

Kinda is tho. Human racial is shit nowadays. Only reason to be one is looking better than everyone else

[crisp pine]

I won't buddy, you don't have to be afraid of losing me <3

[royal lantern]

people hyping up dracthyr racials until m+ turns into a 1hit death shitshow again and everyone copes on dwarf again

[ionic warren]

halp, i cannot for the life of me get a mouseover rupture macro to work

[grim jay]

The cope minmaxer angle has human often at the top later in the expansion, its never bad and the healthstone thingy is BiS

So idk

[next arch]

Vulpera racials bis, insta log outs with camp > play a better game angle.

[grim jay]

Or nelf, because there actually is some meld stuff

[royal lantern]

BASED AND REAL

[storm hedge]

On rogue everyone has insta log out, its called stealth -> alt+f4

[crisp pine]

Does one of their bag of tricks thingie deal nature damage?
Huuuuuuge caustic angle in that case

[grim jay]

[next arch]

It does, can change it to shadow aswell, though I think sub got fixed with shadow damage external effects.

[crisp pine]

Sin keeps on winning

[royal lantern]

sanctum of domination made me love my camp

fuck that walk

and fuck our warlocks

[grim jay]

Idk just get ported

At the stone

[next arch]

1% reduced fire damage HUGE, for that one cage room before painsmith.

[royal lantern]

kinda hard when nobody wanted to walk there

worst raid entrance in a long long long time

[zealous wolf]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[grim jay]

We always have some people that are overly motivated

[next arch]

I think running to SoD took longer than switching my hunter from kyrian to Necrolord so I could solo ktz.

[wicked lynx]

run

you mean goblin glider?

[next arch]

Running is good for cardio :)

[novel star]

i wonder what life is like as a vulpera player

the size of my weapons on pandaren makes me sad

[fair coyote]

furries 😮

[novel star]

i have such little tiny baby dick daggers

other races get big daggers

not fair

[next arch]

All they do is make camp, eat hot chip and lie.

[novel star]

based

[hot fulcrum]

I forgot setting to not drop details overall when I hit dummy with vanish. Can someone point me to it?

[crisp stream]

that info will be great, anyone?

[balmy condor]

!details

where command go

[crisp stream]

[balmy condor]

is bot just dead

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[balmy condor]

no

wtf

[crisp stream]

bot is on strike today

[vestal wren]

na, somone removed the command from the list i guess

[mystic kettle]

Have the Sin talent bugs been fixed?

The ones with Echo R as mentioned on Whspyr's guide?

[elfin hazel]

Are there any item slots I should be crafting right now or is it better to hold off until season start?

[royal lantern]

wait

[elfin hazel]

aight

[terse orchid]

Nope

[mystic kettle]

Ahh shit okay! Thanks for the update x

[crystal nymph]

there was a pin for her talents and explanations, rotations

couldnt find them where are they 😦

[balmy condor]

deleted

guides are updated

they're not needed

[crystal nymph]

thx

[mystic kettle]

Ass ST LFG

[balmy condor]

assa single target kinda blows atm

it's fine

it's just not really impressive

[novel star]

[mystic kettle]

I'm in a really shit guild haaha, so I'm just shooting for a decent parse tbh

Just a friend guild

[midnight atlas]

bug list from pins returns "content no longer available". does this mean no more bugs?

[soft shale]

just dont die then and you will do well

[mystic kettle]

Oh no...

[balmy condor]

no it's just dogshit ass discord

[novel star]

speaking of guilds no one asked but i’m trialing for like a mid mythic guild next week even though my na account has literally no raid logs

[soft shale]

that happens a lot in shit guilds like mine ahaha

[elfin hazel]

Btw I've been using Luxthos' rogue WA but it doesn't show envenom buff. is it not important to keep track off or is there a stand alone thing for it or?

[novel star]

spamming applications works i guess

[soft shale]

rogues are in short availability

[balmy condor]

it is important to track idk why it wouldn't

[novel star]

yeah

[balmy condor]

might want to ask luxthos

[mystic kettle]

We usually just clear HC and then quit

[novel star]

shit i got invited to literally didn’t have a single rogue on their raid roster

[soft shale]

oh we are like wr 600 or so nothing super good or bad

[midnight atlas]

envenom buff for luxthos is a green bar under the resources, you can make it bigger from custom options

[grim jay]

People really looking for rogues even more than usual. Whats a mid mythic guild tho?

[autumn peak]

caustic damage scale with mastery?

[elfin hazel]

Oh, nice. Thanks. I might just be dum ❤️

[cyan summit]

when M0 gear drops do we know what stats we should go for ?

[midnight atlas]

it's that green bar under combo points, runs from top to 0. i like to make it thicker

[balmy condor]

well no, but yeah? Like envenom scales with mastery, so if you do a bigger envenom your caustic will obviously do more, but caustic itself doesn't

[novel star]

like 6/9 amirdrassil

main focus is aotc then they do mythic for fun

[royal lantern]

lowering upload amount btw

[novel star]

and don’t really sweat for ce

[cyan summit]

@balmy condor is having 0 vers ok for M0?

[novel star]

seems like a chill vibe

[royal lantern]

thats mid for you?

[grim jay]

So like my friends guild roughly, tho they are building towards 2 day CE

[royal lantern]

lol

[balmy condor]

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

what kind of question is that

[royal lantern]

when i heared mid i thought "WR600-1000"

[novel star]

i mean it’s almost exactly in the middle of the possible kills

ah

lol

[balmy condor]

do you have item level?

you'll be fine in m0

who tf needs vers to survive in m0

[cyan summit]

ye im at 585

[balmy condor]

well then what the fuck man

[cyan summit]

idk im a bit new i thought vers is for damage reduction

[grim jay]

Its overall probably mid for mythic raiding, but ye. The WRs are probably mid for CE guilds? Idk how many got CE in amirdrassil

[balmy condor]

yeah I mean in like +19's not in pre-season content my guy

[novel star]

i just meant like middle of the raid not mid skill level or whatever i’m not trying to apply to some real shit when i have no experience

[royal lantern]

iirc CE is most of the time like, 1,6k guilds or smth like that

[sturdy stirrup]

if i dont have 2 shiv talented should i use my shiv when kingbane have 6-7 sec to finish

[royal lantern]

i mean, yeha, thats a normal starting point for mythic raiding tbh

[grim jay]

Yeah thats what I remember aswell. So 600-1k is mid in terms of CE

Getting to like the last 2 is probably mid for overall mythic raiding guilds

Remember, many only kill the first few or half at most

[atomic creek]

Have people been using their spark already?

[novel star]

no

well you shouldn’t

you can do whatever but there’s a decent chance it’d be a waste

[atomic creek]

I've been thinking about keeping it until at least mythic release, but I was curious

[novel star]

everything is still being tuned like daily or every other day

don’t use spark

[cyan summit]

oh ok , ty !

[atomic creek]

Aight, holding on

It's tempting though

[royal lantern]

"vers for deffensive stats" is only a thing for the absolute highest 0,1% of m+ key pushing

and nowhere else

[cyan summit]

i seee , had no idea

ty

[novel star]

i didn’t even really care about doing mythic at all in the first place lol my goal while applying to stuff was just to get in an aotc guild to get back into the game

my retail raiding experience starts and ends with hc nyalotha so it was a nice surprise 2 be given a chance

[grim jay]

Id really like building a new CE guild, but gotta have a solid base for that and it requires quite the effort. Sadly my friends guild on alliance probably aint good enough for doing it in a reasonable time and my horde guild is already rather established, so I wouldnt want to or be able to pull a group with me
Also time as I said kinda eh

[craggy dagger]

hi, we are using enchanted weapon authirity of the depths as pinned guide says. but there is zero in AH? is it bugged or what

[royal lantern]

the recipee drops in the raid

kinda hard for people to have it

[craggy dagger]

shiet, so what to do before that?

[novel star]

pee haha

[novel star]

anything your weapons are being replaced in a week anyway

[royal lantern]

dont enchant or put a random one on your weapons

[novel star]

i have tier 2 dragonflight enchants on my shit rn

[craggy dagger]

im min maxing, ofc I will enchant. The question is which one

[quartz lance]

Is it confirmed that the recipe is 100% drop rate from last boss in raid? Otherwise that’s kind of scuffed

[royal lantern]

if you would do that, you would just sim yourself

[kind swift]

!fuu

[royal lantern]

just saying

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[novel star]

i wonder why people care so much about bis rn even though they’re doing the delayed rollout thing. is it just habit from how previous expansions have worked

[royal lantern]

[novel star]

that’s the only way i can rationalize it

[craggy dagger]

authority of storm + enchanted for crit/haste or mastery?

[grim jay]

Well thats your fault

[quartz lance]

Think it’s just wanting to be prepared and also min maxing because I enjoy it

[grim jay]

Its not rational to begin with

[novel star]

LMAO

[quartz lance]

But I haven’t used enchants etc yet. I just like having it ready

[royal lantern]

radiant i think, if you want to throw out 10k for a weapon you throw away in 6days

[grim jay]

You mean as in buying it for more gold now than later?

[quartz lance]

I wish it was 10k. It’s 50k on my realm. At least it was yesterday

[novel star]

that’s fair i’m pretty sure just getting 580+ is already like kinda overkill for the content that’s gonna be available tho

[grim jay]

I just bought the vers enchants for 2k

[novel star]

getting capped valorstones and stockpiling delve keys is good but like

[royal lantern]

ye figures, rare drops + expensive to make

[novel star]

sheesh

[royal lantern]

will take time until prices drop

[quartz lance]

I mean as in having things ready to go in general.

[royal lantern]

remember DF launch and the 80k sophics?

[normal mist]

I had 9 so I used 1 to check the final chest of a delve

[quartz lance]

I mean even Ironclaw Whetstones are like 6k on my server

[royal lantern]

just use wax or mana oil

0,3% worse

[novel star]

i have like 3 lmao i’m just lazy

[royal lantern]

and you dont need to sell your kidney lol

[quartz lance]

Of course lol. I’m just using it as an indication that prices are wild and won’t tank for a while

[royal lantern]

whetstones are stupid cus they need a nullstone for every single one

(and no ironclaw ore)

[novel star]

did waste one early in questing tho cus im a fool but

[quartz lance]

Yep and those suckers are super expensive

[royal lantern]

ITS CALLED IRONCLAW WHETSTONE BTW

[rare jackal]

could say it makes null sense heh

[quartz lance]

https://tenor.com/view/gtfo-gtfoh-get-the-fuck-out-gif-15351490

[rotund oak]

im cooking them on my paladin

[rare jackal]

does vicous venoms change our fok usage? or is it always fok at 2 targest?

[royal lantern]

you dont FoK at 2targets anyway

[faint path]

What should we craft with spark

[rotund oak]

its 3+

[royal lantern]

and if you play VV you are in a raidbuild, where FoK is kina a afterthought

[royal lantern]

you dont

[rotund oak]

DONT TOUCH THEM yet

[next arch]

Nyalotha was goated

[novel star]

i liked it ya

cool ass visuals

[next arch]

100% \

Skitra was a good fight

[novel star]

i don’t like the leather set that much but

cool raid

[next arch]

The leather mog was cheeks.

[novel star]

and cool daggers

[next arch]

but the fights where fun.

[novel star]

ye

[rotund oak]

raden and carapace mythic were the best

[main hemlock]

facts

[limber lion]

????????

[main hemlock]

I liked castle nathria too

[limber lion]

This is the most cooked Sapzilla take in the world

[rotund oak]

stop seeking my attention and fo

real

[terse orchid]

Man I loved M Ra-den

[rotund oak]

same,and caparace!

[terse orchid]

My pug group never got there

[rotund oak]

loved coz i coult play both as outlaw and sin

[terse orchid]

or at least, i lost interest in raiding due to the time investment/challenge ratio being out of whack

[rotund oak]

was so close on CE but guild died

but ive enjoying nyalotha so so much

and raden was a banger

and carapace with transitioning and dodging and priong and aoeing cysts

so so good

[next arch]

LFR nzoth was great :')

[royal lantern]

fight starts->14people mindcontroll cus they didnt had the cloak?

[next arch]

Ye. Good times.

[rotund oak]

we were so close

[velvet vault]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[digital kettle]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

You can freely use weathered crests to craft any 590's you'd like. Preferences currently are wrist/belt/rings.

The current "best" embellishment is Ascension on a dagger with a nerubian patch on wrist. This is very overtuned compared to other embellishments and nerfs/buffs are expected.
The current "safe" embellishment to craft is dawnthread on wrist/belt, as this will most likely be generically good.
Blizzard has been tuning embellishments near daily since the expansion has come out. Because of this, IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED TO CHASE BIS EMBELLISHMENTS OR USE SPARKS CURRENTLY
Towards the start of raid release recommendations will update everywhere.

[main hemlock]

is m0 equalent to dragonflight s3 +11 keys now ? or how does it work

from the difficulty

[rotund oak]

but from the little ive figured out m+ will hurt significantly more now

[royal lantern]

basically

remember the old keys where 20was max reward?

[rare jackal]

ngl im not feeling much from the difficulty increase in heroic, which was supposed to be old m0

[clever sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/pepperidge-pepperidge-farm-remembers-remember-gif-15527169458174144495

[royal lantern]

they made what was a +10back the the baseline

just think the numbers as " add 10key levels" in the old values

[next arch]

Thats for the healers to worry about.

[royal lantern]

cus old m0 was a joke aswell

[rotund oak]

that means theyve ''compressed'' it a bit too hard 😅

[rare jackal]

sure but i feel like m0 was harder

idk might be wrong

[velvet vault]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[subtle tundra]

it was piss

[rare jackal]

🤷‍♂️

[subtle tundra]

you did them as fresh lvl character

and it has the additional mechanics

[royal lantern]

its also

scaling was really weird this time

+some classes are hilariously broken

and ofc Tanks are still overpowered like hell

[dark token]

I think this is already off

[rotund oak]

[dark token]

They said this but I bet you m0s will feel closer to old m0s and not +10s

+10s definitely do not feel like +20s from previous seasons

[rotund oak]

i did couple of 12s in beta

[dark token]

We have some extra ilvl or scaling is off or something

[rotund oak]

they felt like 16s

or somewhere there

[dark token]

They did a - key level but it's almost back 1:1 to how it was yeah

Something closer to -5 rather than -10

[rotund oak]

yup yup

[dark token]

And that's with op extra affixes compared to previous expac

[rotund oak]

idk tbh,ill just wait and see but to compress the difficulty from stat scaling that much is kinda weird

[rotund oak]

yup true

[dark token]

If you didn't have that 12 would feel like 12

[rotund oak]

yeah 100%

[dark token]

People are over hyping the -10 thing it was just a squash and we are back to how it was almost

[hexed frost]

So we expecting a 20 tyrannical mist on first couple of weeks?

[dark token]

No need for rewards

But I would expect it week ~3 otherwise

[subtle tundra]

i heard mists is really hard now

cause of last boss

[rotund oak]

did they change the last boss 😮

[dark token]

Like I said it's not exactly 1:1 how it was because of the lvl 12 affix

[hexed frost]

Tyrannical mist and necro were always hard

[rotund oak]

Tyr mists was hard only because 1st boss dps check

[subtle tundra]

tyra mist first boss yea

if you did world first key

[rotund oak]

if u didnt smash it early it was a wipe

[dark token]

It's more like -5ish, so a +20 mists will be like +25 of previous system

[lean hedge]

Nerubian Pheromone Secreter, is this trinket good?

[subtle tundra]

otherwise not really

[rotund oak]

i didnt bother personally,ara-kara trinket and the dawnbreaker trinket

[subtle tundra]

the shield he gets scales with key level and you have to break it otherwise you wipe

[rotund oak]

yeah ik,but wasnt that always the case?

[subtle tundra]

it used to be piss shit value

[rotund oak]

ah so they made it bigger

[tough gorge]

Yall might be underestimating the scaling. +12s are still challenging for the really good mythic+ groups on the beta. +20 isnt going to happen by week 3 lol

[rotund oak]

cool cool

it didnt feel that way but wahtever

[dark token]

Idk how the new affix would affect it post +12

But a +10 will def not be a +20

More like +15

[terse orchid]

Wasn't the bargain affix bugged where it didn't increase damage taken? Making everything easier than it shouldve been

[tough gorge]

I mean at +12, with new affix.

[elfin hazel]

Do I macro signet of the priory and deathmark together?

[tough gorge]

Beta fucked up and didnt do the dmg correctlt, with change, they are difficult

Ppl have 626 gear foe those as well

[arctic socket]

There’s a new affix? I thought after +10 just got both fortified n tryincal

[tough gorge]

I think its some xalatath guile thing? Cant remember.

[potent otter]

Hello, I'm a bit of a newb and I'm wondering how to upgrade my gear? I'm level 80, just started doing some random heroic dungeons but not sure what I'm doing really

[terse orchid]

"Starting at keystone level +12, a new affix replaces the “Xal’atath’s Bargain” affixes. At this level, Xal’atath revokes her bargains, empowering dungeon creatures with a 20% increase in health and damage.
Xal’atath’s Guile - Xal’atath betrays players, revoking her bargains and increasing the health and damage of enemies by 20%."

But the damage increase part was bugged during beta

[next arch]

There will be a quest in dornagal explaining how. otherwise youtube guides are probably good.
but I wouldnt worry about upgrading gear as of this very second if youre new.

[arctic socket]

Oh so +10s etc just become free

20% haste buff sheeesh

[rare jackal]

is it still recommended to macro cb into envenom despite the loss?

[terse orchid]

What loss?

[brittle tartan]

I II

II I_

[rotund oak]

its minimal iirc

[rare jackal]

when playing fatebound you want to manually cb cause of weird interactions from what i understand

[rare jackal]

goode one

[rotund oak]

it shouldnt be that much of a big deal,personally i press it after my 1st envenom

[tough gorge]

Just make sure to use cb envenoms before deathmark then your safe to macro it

[rare jackal]

i thought it was the exact opposite, you want to hold cb for after deathmark and after vanish (ideally that is)

[rotund oak]

.. its on the guide boys

[rare jackal]

yeh

[rotund oak]

why choke on something like this

[rare jackal]

im just making sure my info is right

[spice surge]

I mean either you do it was before or after, as long as you dont CB edge case

[tough gorge]

Okay, ill change what I said. Dont make your first envenom after deathmark use CB

[rare jackal]

cause the guide doesnt mention cb macros but a pin did at some point IIRC

[rotund oak]

ST Fatebound

[terse orchid]

lol fu

[arctic socket]

Does using Cb deal more damage then er?

[novel star]

depends on the hero spec

[rotund oak]

Fatebound aoe

[strange python]

on a big pack that last a while, i can do some serious DPS but then start to feel pretty energy starved - am i doing something wrong?

[terse orchid]

How long is "a while". Long enough for your bleeds to fall off? In which case you should be reapplying them

[arctic socket]

If you’re energy starved you aren’t spreading /reapplying rupture in aoe

[empty viper]

Rupture + weapon poison needs to be 100% up if poss

[arctic socket]

Kinda like impossible to run out of energy in packs

[novel star]

just maintain ruptures and maybe a garrote if needed

~6 bleeds is all you should need for infinite energy and you need to maintain 5 rup for scent of blood anyway

[vocal minnow]

Does caustic spatter have a seperate debuff id thats different from the spellid? if I add the debuff to the whitelist like this it doesnt work

[strange python]

should i be vanishing to reapply multiple ruptures at once or just reapplyone by one on a large pack ?

[empty viper]

make a wa for scent so you always know

helped me alot

[terse orchid]

can u share that? Wouldn't mind trying that out

[empty viper]

sure one sec

[rotund oak]

one of the best suggestions ive read 10/10 my man

[novel star]

u just vanish on cd basically

[arctic socket]

Also make a weakaura for darkest night so you can see when you need to build to 7cp

[empty viper]

thanks !

[tired gull]

My player I copied from somewhere wasn’t showing spatter, so I just added the spell by name and it’s working now

Plater *

[novel star]

if you don’t have it which you sometimes won’t you still just manually do 5 tab targeted ruptures tho yes

bleeds are ur top priority

u cant play the game without bleeds

no energy!

[dusky token]

When you back to back garrote and rupture from stealth on a main target, does the spread go to new targets if you cast multiple on the same target? Or does it refresh the 2 extra applications on the same targets it went on already?

[novel star]

it refreshes on main target and spreads to 2 new ones

meaning you lose one application

also it’s not back to back

[dusky token]

That’s good to know Ty

[novel star]

it’s 2 garrotes into 2 ruptures

[novel star]

[arctic socket]

Well you do garrote twice back to back

[novel star]

true but didn’t sound like that’s what they were saying maybe i just misinterpreted tho

[dusky token]

Garrote garrote> rapture (bone spike cp)>rapture?

[novel star]

yes

[dusky token]

Kk

[rotund oak]

yup

[arctic socket]

Then Fok CT

[strange python]

please share also!

[arctic socket]

Repeat

[novel star]

(or double garrote ct if the pack is huge cause ur still in IC)

[rotund oak]

that means u might lose the rup IC

u are not doing that

there is no or here

thats wrong^^

[novel star]

?

[empty viper]

send you a pm

[arctic socket]

You don’t wanna lose ic rupture window

[dusky token]

So do I CT in IC or focus on rupture spread as prio

[arctic socket]

For a ct

You spread garrote / rupture during ic then press CT

[rotund oak]

u can CT when IC window is gone it doesnt matter

[novel star]

the opener is 2x gar 2x rup 2x gar (ic gone) ct

[rotund oak]

IC is for gars/ruptures only

[novel star]

i Know

[rotund oak]

then why say ct on ic

[dusky token]

Ok cool ty friends 🐀

[novel star]

i didn’t i said 2x gar instead of this

cause the fan ct in that situation is during ic

[arctic socket]

Huh

[hot fulcrum]

You can have 2 buttons. 1 for daily envenom and 1 for CB + envnom. I guess this is what I saw on Whispyrs bar

[rotund oak]

@novel star look what u are saying bruh

[novel star]

?

yes

the double garrote

[rotund oak]

?

no

[novel star]

are the last 2 gcds of ic

[tired gull]

Double garrote is after ruptures

[novel star]

what

this is literally the opener on wowhead

why are we arguing

[strange python]

any best trinkets to aim for to take into next week ?

[novel star]

2 gar 2 rup 2 gar is the whole ic window

[rotund oak]

yeah

everything ends there

[woven shore]

Guys i need help

[tired gull]

ilvl mainly

[woven shore]

I think blizzard accidentally forget rogue

[dusky token]

We stealth another update

[arctic socket]

They have for the past couple months

[novel star]

bugs are too severe to fix

its over

[tired gull]

Anxious to see how we perform in raid

[rotund oak]

u mean how sub will

[arctic socket]

Mediocre but competitive

[rotund oak]

[tired gull]

No thanks

[terse orchid]

My favorite spot to be in

[honest ferry]

guys need help have problem in aoe dmg , any one have good guide for aoe dmg?

[dusky token]

Follow wowhead

[novel star]

wowhead.com or whispyrs youtube channel

[honest ferry]

ty

[queen egret]

How Come we send envenom with CB late ?

[novel star]

bugs

[prime cairn]

wat about them maxroll guides

[novel star]

cold blood makes you lose the edge case double flip

because inevitability takes priority over it

[terse orchid]

it's just aggregated content stolen from other sources

[normal mist]

We do not recommend those here

[novel star]

sick double message

[normal mist]

Phone......

[novel star]

what even is maxroll though for real

[tired gull]

Diablo guides

[novel star]

i’ve never used that website in my whole goshdarned freaking life man

[normal mist]

a website, was good for Diablo guides

[rugged mango]

maxroll is good for arpg stuff

[novel star]

must be a myth

[novel star]

ahh

i see

[normal mist]

The site itself is really good

What they did with wow guides isn't

[empty viper]

ara kara and signet works good for me in sim and ig

[rotund oak]

yup maxroll just started with wow guides btw

[potent raven]

did anyone do their 1st crafts yet

[empty viper]

ye

[novel star]

how about those u.gg builds tho

[potent raven]

did u do crit/mastery

daggs

[rotund oak]

pins say we keep them sparks

[potent raven]

nah im stupid

i mean with the

lfr crests

[tired gull]

How many sparks should we have rn

[rotund oak]

ah those are whatever

[normal mist]

I've like 6/7 crafted items

[rugged mango]

1.5

[dark token]

I'm 10

[woven shore]

Stop i will cry and swimm in tears

[rotund oak]

?

[tired gull]

Dang it I may have missed one

[normal mist]

You can probably still get it

Week 1 had a full spark

Week 2 (live) has half

[lavish moth]

do whatever event and you get catchup, already did in 1 char

[terse orchid]

Yeah you can't miss sparks

[dusky token]

Are we saving spark for weapons?

[normal mist]

Pins

Or

[rotund oak]

the 1st week u get half a spark from the weekly quest which u trade on catalyst quest to make a whole spark,week 2 half a spark

[normal mist]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

You can freely use weathered crests to craft any 590's you'd like. Preferences currently are wrist/belt/rings.

The current "best" embellishment is Ascension on a dagger with a nerubian patch on wrist. This is very overtuned compared to other embellishments and nerfs/buffs are expected.
The current "safe" embellishment to craft is dawnthread on wrist/belt, as this will most likely be generically good.
Blizzard has been tuning embellishments near daily since the expansion has come out. Because of this, IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED TO CHASE BIS EMBELLISHMENTS OR USE SPARKS CURRENTLY
Towards the start of raid release recommendations will update everywhere.

[empty viper]

".. IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED TO CHASE BIS EMBELLISHMENTS OR USE SPARKS CURRENTLY" i did exactly that 😎

[rugged mango]

this is what 1.5 is lol

[rotund oak]

yeah that wasnt me asking though 😄

[rugged mango]

was in reply to this

[tired gull]

I think I didn’t get a weekly this week, but I probably just didn’t realize I grabbed it

[rotund oak]

the response came after what u said though,and i didnt rly ask @tired gull ask..

[rugged mango]

i replied to the wrong thing about sparks i guess

[rotund oak]

yes u did

[tired gull]

I understood you were replying to me though, so thanks!

[zealous wolf]

whats the max number of coffer keys you can have rn?

[rugged mango]

and yet you still were confused even though you knew it was meant for clutch lol

[rotund oak]

doubt there is a cap

ive got 9

[bleak crag]

So I've been running this tree, and I wanted to add iron wire in, what do you think would be best to take out to get iron wire in

[terse orchid]

10 i believe?

[bleak crag]

I was thinking one point in lethal dose

[golden matrix]

how do you spread rupture and poisons? is it a passive skill you learn or an ability?

[limber lion]

Wrong choice, try again

Lethal Dose is one of the strongest nodes on the tree

[bleak crag]

woops lol

Master assasssin since I play subterfuge last 6 sec no?

[limber lion]

You should drop Master Assassin

[zealous wolf]

i do have 10, but i didnt get the one you got in the first week with early access

[limber lion]

And should not play Subterfuge

Xd

[royal lantern]

you should drop everything related to the 2nd vanish lol

[bleak crag]

Well I'm playing QoL Ik this isn't optimal

[royal lantern]

its the biggest waste of talent points in the entire game

[bleak crag]

just like the feel of it

[limber lion]

You do you

[bleak crag]

and it sims on 8 target pretty similar to other

[limber lion]

But yeah MA

[bleak crag]

it's like a 100k dps loss on 8 target

[terse orchid]

That seems pretty significant

[cursive mortar]

I saw a guide that didn't have sudden demise, is that guide just wrong?

[bleak crag]

on 8 target 100k out of 6million

not that bad

[limber lion]

Different strokes for different folk

Currently no reason to not play Sudden Demise and big bleeds

Everything dies instantly

You could think of dropping it when pushing high m+ but not atm

[rugged mango]

for what content

[cursive mortar]

I was going to say, it's so strong in dungeons atm

[rugged mango]

sudden demise isnt taken in the cleave build for high m+ pushing

[novel star]

you drop it for the cleave build but that’s like a pretty specific weird high keys thing

[cursive mortar]

Really? So pushing keys I will be dropping demise?

[novel star]

for ur average weekly vault shit ur still gonna be taking sd always

[limber lion]

Not necessarily

[novel star]

but for pushing pushing probably

[limber lion]

Depends what you want to do and what the comp is and so on

[novel star]

it depends

yea

[potent raven]

why is the tooltip on each quality ascension the same

does anybody know

[subtle tundra]

cause quality affects crafting the thing

not the effect

[potent raven]

oh so i can buy worst one

and itll be the same

ic

[limber lion]

Harder to hit the max ilvl

[novel star]

crafter might not be able to get a rank 5 item with low tier shit tho

or charge more

[cursive mortar]

Does anyone use a tree that is talented into crimson tempest and lightweight shiv?

[normal mist]

Did you, by any chance, check Wowhead?

[novel star]

bleed build is i think

[normal mist]

If not, I recommend you to do it

[novel star]

[balmy condor]

[novel star]

[rugged mango]

[cursive mortar]

Ahh bleed build on whyspers, but you lose a poison

[normal mist]

Complain to him

[balmy condor]

do not complain to me

[normal mist]

Ahahahah

[cursive mortar]

Nah, i'm good

[novel star]

all the builds have descriptions explaining their strengths and weaknesses

[spice spire]

I’m gonna complain

[novel star]

losing dtb makes ur single target and kingsbane worse but that doesn’t matter in baby mode content

[spice spire]

[rugged mango]

the wowhead guide says otherwise sir

[novel star]

checkmate

[spice spire]

Listening to complaints doesn’t equal helping

[balmy condor]

I cannot help you if you complain

[spice spire]

[novel star]

what if i complained nicely

[cursive mortar]

Yeah I see the bleed build would be decent for the content that is out now

[novel star]

[rugged mango]

nah play what you want

raid st build and raid dps each mob down 1 by 1

[novel star]

i’ve been playing exclusively the hybrid build because i’m gonna do that in real content anyway and i just Feel like it

[cursive mortar]

Really quick, does the second shiv give much more dps on single target? I haven't tried it yet

[tired gull]

Hybrid feels nice

[novel star]

ya

[novel star]

yes you cover the whole duration of kb with it instead of just the end

[nova aspen]

mornin

[cursive mortar]

Thank you

[normal mist]

No problem

[novel star]

it’s not like better cause ur not stacking it as much but it’s notable ig

who fucking knows man

[tired gull]

Sims know

[novel star]

video games are for losers

i like muscle cars and alcohol

and women

[tired gull]

First of all only my father is allowed to call me a loser

[novel star]

and steak

trying my cishet cosplay

[rotund oak]

Could settle for cars and alchohol(even though i dont like drinking) but women are a dangerous game

[spice spire]

Women in this economy? Miss me w that

[novel star]

sad…

[rotund oak]

sad that i dont drink or that i decided that single is the way

[novel star]

latter

[rotund oak]

u are insane my man

😂

[midnight atlas]

are men cheaper ?

thinking of rerolling

[novel star]

depends on the guy

[rotund oak]

i dont like men

other men do

[novel star]

i love men

and women

yipee

[rotund oak]

good for u friend

[midnight atlas]

i got my ass slapped by a drunk gay guy in a club once and that was the biggest compliment i got tbh. too bad im not gay

[normal mist]

checks chat
Nothing out of the ordinary
Leaves

[novel star]

i also love assassination rogue in world of war draft

[novel star]

Hater

[real pike]

hello chaps is simming accurate now or still kinda broken

[normal mist]

M+ (aka heroic dungeons for now) we are too strong

For now

In single target we're alright

[rotund oak]

ok its time to watch some netflix and farm wax

laters fam

[dark token]

Don't think we are too strong

[clever turtle]

Is there a item bis list anywhere yet for rogue?

[dark token]

Other classes also blasting

[normal mist]

!bis

[prisma monolith]

BiS lists are not helpful towards gearing yourself. In order for BiS items to truly be BiS, all items in the list have to be obtained at that level exactly, or else it doesn't make sense. Missing a socket for example would shift your stats slightly. You should always compare your gear through top gear or droptimizer instead.

Pre-raid or Pre-season BiS is especially not helpful, and we do not have any of them. These are absolute meaningless bait for gear that you will be replacing the moment the season comes out. The recommendation is simply to get all your heroic gear to 580 and then craft 590 slots (wrist/belt/rings are good)

[dark token]

Sin just not used to doing dmg in keys

So it seems op to us

But this is what other classes enjoyed for long time

[normal mist]

That's a good point of view

[dusky river]

Hi! as a beginner wow player, do you think there is a hero talent more "beginner friendly" than the other one? And maybe a talent tree fitting with it for more M+ content?

[normal mist]

Fatebound

Bleed

Wowhead guide

[dusky river]

okkk! thanks! 😄

[normal mist]

No problem. If you still have questions, feel free to ask them

[main hemlock]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
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[dusty zenith]

Are you guys using vicious venoms for ST?

[tired gull]

Wax farm 4 lyf

Speaking of, what’s a good number of wax to settle on before next week

[next arch]

As many as you think needed.

[normal mist]

Yes

[round nexus]

why do you farm wax?

[normal mist]

Because poor

[next arch]

So you can make candles for the kobolds

[tired gull]

And bored

[subtle tundra]

honestly, if love didnt come with the sexual parts, id probably be gay

[tired gull]

Nothing else to do in game right now

[normal mist]

Same

[next arch]

You can be romantically interested in someone and not have sex.

[normal mist]

Oh but I want sex

[subtle tundra]

ofc

[round nexus]

So with Vicious Venoms, it's not worth too clear the witnessess?

[normal mist]

Correct my friend

[next arch]

Understandable.

[normal mist]

Tbf my girlfriend is amazing

Can't complain much

Besides the fact she's an hunter

[subtle tundra]

ingame or irl

[tired gull]

Anyone else a trickster fan (+10 yards to pickpocket for better wax farm)

[subtle tundra]

cause if irl thats fucking awesome

[normal mist]

In game 😦
Irl she works with Photoshop

[next arch]

Still kinda poggers

[normal mist]

You fucking bet

[tawny junco]

!hero

[prisma monolith]

Both Hero Talents are viable in all content, and are within 2-5% of each other.
Fatebound: Instant damage, is easy to play, can remove some buttons from the rotation, little to no added gameplay
Deathstalker: Introduces gameplay, Singular focus adds big priority damage, suffers from bugs and marks being hard to juggle in easy content like heroic/m0 dungeons

[normal mist]

Before expansion launched and we had the hero tree posts for each spec, she helped me do something for Guy, let me find it (an image for wowhead)

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[tawny junco]

Wait, are still bugs on deathstalker?

[normal mist]

This was one of the concepts we (mostly she) did for trickster

Yes

check the pins, there's a list

[tawny junco]

Thanks sir

[polar nebula]

hello, wowhead doesnt have preseason bis list, icy veins has 580 bises which are worse than 590 crafts. Does anyone by chance has clue how to distribute missives on crafts for non-rep obtainable items?

[normal mist]

You don't care about it

[real pike]

anyone know how to edit whispyr's wa to make the combo points slightly better? I suck with weakauras

sorry bigger*

[normal mist]

Check the following commands:

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[polar nebula]

So just send full crit/mast on missives on all crafts?

no matter of any haste

[normal mist]

Did you read?

[polar nebula]

Ok let me ask other question then, can you somehow get the crafted item id and adjust its stats to find out? In sims

[normal mist]

You're overthinking it

[gusty adder]

its in tc-research pin

[polar nebula]

thanks a lot, ill check

[normal mist]

There's absolutely no reason to think about stats with adventurer track items / veteran

(actually never but that's harder to explain)

[gusty adder]

might only be epics thats in the pin, not sure about the blues

[polar nebula]

why so? always one setup will be better than the other

[midnight atlas]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[normal mist]

@midnight atlas he doesn't want to read

Stats for assassination do not matter

[midnight atlas]

tell him to turn on windows narator and listen to the message from moroes

[normal mist]

Just don't go full one stat and neglect the others

[midnight atlas]

and stats in this game are made in such a way that you sim -> get 1 result -> socket one gem -> sim -> different result

[polar nebula]

yep thats why i asked if someone ran full preseason bis so it saves the hussle doing it

I dont think u always get the same sim going into 1 stat or the other, sure 1 setup is better even minimally

[midnight atlas]

there's too much gear + combinations of gear upgrades to find a pre-bis list. just get whatever you can that sims the most high

[polar nebula]

thanks a lot, thats a lot clearer than "just go 1 stat"

[normal mist]

Who said that?

[round nexus]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/232915274670669826/1280651980787941406/war-within-season-1-loot-upgrade-tracks-v0-m6mnyq8xbxjd1.png?ex=66d8db99&is=66d78a19&hm=2ef56357734df11448f039620fa18af4bb47073bbbd038abbca64a0d35b1554f

[normal mist]

Also, this is the information we give towards bis list:

!bis

[prisma monolith]

BiS lists are not helpful towards gearing yourself. In order for BiS items to truly be BiS, all items in the list have to be obtained at that level exactly, or else it doesn't make sense. Missing a socket for example would shift your stats slightly. You should always compare your gear through top gear or droptimizer instead.

Pre-raid or Pre-season BiS is especially not helpful, and we do not have any of them. These are absolute meaningless bait for gear that you will be replacing the moment the season comes out. The recommendation is simply to get all your heroic gear to 580 and then craft 590 slots (wrist/belt/rings are good)

[normal mist]

@polar nebula

[polar nebula]

I see that, well for example wrists u get from rep so I dont believe those premade answers 100%

But I got my answers so thanks a lot

[rancid haven]

what spec is looking to be best for the raid?

[normal mist]

There are no raids out

One couldn't know

[arctic socket]

From way a spec feels I would say sub

[sterile violet]

why rogues dont haVE BIS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE

[normal mist]

Because we are superior

[arctic socket]

There’s a bis item list on icy veins

[normal mist]

Or if you read the command you get the same dang result

XD

[dull cloak]

then follow icyveins

it's bis

[normal mist]

Sure, I guess

Hopefully y'all understand what makes a bis list being actually bis

[dusty zenith]

I feel like the rotation page on wowhead is a bit off

Does t seem to line up on death marks

[sterile violet]

bruh just addon hekili and gg

[fair coyote]

It could be phrased differently like: are there any items that are so good that will sim better in almost all situations?

[sterile violet]

how we gonna get into mythic raid day 1 with no bis

wtf

[clever sapphire]

which part

[sterile violet]

oh and btw does wow banned toxic chat?

if i flamed a healer

who cant heal for shii

and wont rez me

[vapid geode]

just release

[sterile violet]

will i get banned

[dusty zenith]

Right after kingsbane it supposed to proc but I always end up having 1 mark left

[clever sapphire]

its probably made in mind with the fact that blizzard will fix er bug, that way you would have the mark gone by that point

is my assumption

[sterile violet]

is their an addon to keep track of marks

how ya'll seeing that

[dusty zenith]

With our eyes

[sterile violet]

their is like million things on the screen

[fair coyote]

Wouldnt you still have 2 cp on the first envenom e not trigger ER even without the bug

[craggy dagger]

hey, where in AOE rotation Crimson Temepst is not included? 😛 Envenom has higher priority in first cast?

why*

[arctic socket]

Don’t hekili

[woven storm]

Darkest Night bugged? After target dies and i get the buff. Full combo points envenom and no Mark on target and damage. Is somthing known about that?

[sterile violet]

hekili the best thing ever

[clever sapphire]

could be, its pretty hard to streamline assa opener with deathstalker/bugs and the random CP that you may or may not land on

[normal mist]

Do not advise an addon we do not recommend whatsoever, it is bad for rogue.

[clever sapphire]

this looks like an ST rotation/priority list

[sterile violet]

how is it bad bruh i just out dps everyone in heroic right noww fury and frost dk they not even close

[normal mist]

Use it as you please. Do not recommend it to others here.

[arctic socket]

Royal don’t fall into the bait post

[normal mist]

We've explained time and time again why it is bad

[clever sapphire]

i already blocked the guy, looks like a usual troll or so

[craggy dagger]

well its said M+ Aoe rotation, so thats why im confused

So we dont use crimson temepst never on ST?

[sterile violet]

well i didnt know literally joined yesterday

[normal mist]

No

[clever sapphire]

nope in ST not

[kindred pewter]

What is hekili?

[normal mist]

We don't my friend

[pastel quiver]

Bruh wtf sin rogue rotation isn’t that crazy to need hekili

[normal mist]

Rotation addon..it's bad for rogue but good for some other classes

[craggy dagger]

okey so what aboout aoe m+ opener rotation, as Icyveins is mistaken I guess.

[kindred pewter]

Damn i didnt know people still use that shit

[sterile violet]

oh no bro plz dont block me murloc without p wtf would i do with my life if u did

[clever sapphire]

keep scrolling, im like 100% sure you are not on the m+ part

[sterile violet]

u salty cringe lord

[normal mist]

It's not the end of the world to learn the basics with it (the BASICS). Other than that it's making you lose braincells

[clever sapphire]

either scroll as i said, or go on wowhead. Both pages should be up to date and have both aoe and st covered, just gotta find it

[normal mist]

@craggy dagger

[arctic socket]

That picture + the st should be a command lol

[clever sapphire]

or just put the 2 pictures in faq and call it a day

[weak isle]

Or just read wowhead

And call it a day

[clever sapphire]

but i guess if its on wowhead already then its covered

[arctic socket]

People won’t be able to find the faq

And would always ask here

[clever sapphire]

fair point, they already cant find it on wowhead so they probably wouldnt find the faq either

[arctic socket]

^

Reading is difficult

[dull cloak]

the outlaw faq in here is nicer than the sin faq

[arctic socket]

Scrolling tho is horrible

[clever sapphire]

did someone just trigger some word that deleted their message instantly?

[normal mist]

Yep

[clever sapphire]

i swear i saw a message pop up for a milisecond

[arctic socket]

Someone probably said a no no word

[clever sapphire]

aight good, my eyes are not tweaking

[arctic socket]

My boy @prisma monolith poppin off with that

[sterile violet]

pray that one day murlock have friends

[clever sapphire]

whispyr probably called it a day since wowhead is the same as the faq and no reason to update 2 each time something changes

[vestal wren]

he is a killing spree gamer

^^

[sterile violet]

guy is pushing loner energy

[craggy dagger]

ok so we use Vanish after first Death mark from first ambush is gone?

[arctic socket]

Go into your talents

Go to where it says hero talents

Read the very bottom talent

[iron carbon]

Sometimes, I Wonder if you guys checked the guides

[arctic socket]

You only ever press ambush once and then 7cp envenoms will reapply it for you while the darkest night buff is active

[iron carbon]

So much questions already answered in guides / VoD

[craggy dagger]

ok I got it, so Vanish is more like reapplication garrote, rupture to more multi targets?

[clever sapphire]

that and to apply improved garrote for deathmark

[shrewd night]

!mute @sterile violet 24h Calm down.

[normal mist]

[iron carbon]

[midnight atlas]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[normal mist]

Koffing shows up, chat slows down

That's some aura

[iron carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-19622251

[normal mist]

That's exactly what I imagined

[midnight atlas]

Koffing uses !mute. It's supper effective

[iron carbon]

I read your mind sweetheart

[south lava]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[real pike]

anyone good with weakauras mind helping me with making an element bigger? specifically the combo points in whispyr's edit