assassination

[deep sorrel]

worth upgrading ara-kara sac past 580 with crests?

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/echidna-ara-ara-re-zero-gif-19959889

[sweet dust]

wtf?

[royal lantern]

re-queue

queue is a bit broken since patch

[sweet dust]

i requeued twice

[royal lantern]

sometimes just doesnt pop at all

[sweet dust]

and relogged

[royal lantern]

sometimes finds a dungeon in 2min

weird af

[rotund oak]

💀

[sweet dust]

i been in q 30mins total

is horde dead?

😂

[shy pecan]

Never had more than a 1 minute queue this expac 🙂

[spice spire]

Gamers stop queing right before it’s about to pop

[spice spire]

Tank speaking

[sweet dust]

for heroics?

[shy pecan]

[spice spire]

Same actually

If I’m forced to

That’s why the meower coming out

[shy pecan]

[lunar pond]

There is a quest named mob lateryou’ll have to wait 5+ minutes to spawn too potentially. It is not bugged

[nova aspen]

[grim jay]

quake likes getting forced 🗒️

[pliant remnant]

?

[sweet dust]

are you eu

[nova aspen]

tanks and healers have jobs, dps do not

[shy pecan]

Also you Mfer never add me on bnet

Same with @balmy condor

[pliant remnant]

kek tbf, that was a friend of mine and that was like 1 AM EU realm time, but yeh, EU

[crisp parrot]

Does the new ambush mechanic with deathstalker not do anything if you get knocked out of stealth before pull and cant ambush? (unless you vanish?)

[pliant remnant]

Si senor

[spice spire]

Mf didn’t know you wanted to be friends

Also fwiw I almost never look at friends list

[shy pecan]

wtf

[spice spire]

And whispyr isn’t even on mine

And I love that man

[shy pecan]

We were talking about keys and how I was tanking them and he was like "wtf we never run keys together"

mf never adds me on bnet

[spice spire]

I forgot

Was going to return

Ended up not

Got fomo

My ilvl still shit tho

[arctic socket]

@spice spire wanna be btag friends

[gleaming geyser]

18 dawnbreakers, no dagger off 2nd boss

its cursed

[earnest hare]

yeah it was from playing sub, and i guess im used to it with the stealth opener/shadowdance.

I guess we dont really need it for assa right? as the garotte/rupture after stealth is from talents and nothing else (suffocation and carnage)

[uneven plume]

do stat weight sims work correctly?

its telling me to keep adding agility even though i have 8% haste on Patchwork

O.o

[shy pecan]

Yeah, don't need them. Just need to be aware of when you've got the improved garrote duration (technically same window as IC so one less buff to track)

[spice surge]

Ilvl good

[uneven plume]

and also we do 1 boss 5minutes?

i think i might have had 10 bosses up

lmaoo

[grim jay]

you shouldnt sim stat weights either way

[arctic socket]

Ilvl bis

[shy pecan]

and stat weight sims are also useless

[uneven plume]

is there a similar sim i can do?

where it can tell me what secondary i need more of?

[spice surge]

Get ilvl

Just sim your stuff

With top gear

[shy pecan]

What Eleem said

[uneven plume]

long ass sims

-.-

[spice spire]

Sure dog

[arctic socket]

This early into the season stats don’t rly matter just highest ilvl hits

[arctic socket]

Hell yeah brother

[spice spire]

Hell yeah brother

[tawdry gulch]

anyone here have a ambush/mutilate combined macro for with stances? is it just stance 0 mutilate and stance 1 ambush? that would bypass barlag?

[nocturne quail]

It changes automatically I believe

[tawdry gulch]

oh lol

[hardy venture]

I just swap Ambush where my mutilate was in Stealth

[nocturne quail]

But if not put it on bar one, And do that^

[hardy venture]

Not that I have noticed

[nocturne quail]

Yeah I might be wrong, was thinking it changes for procs

[onyx linden]

Anyone else try 2x dawnthread? its not stacking

[tawdry gulch]

what are essential debuffs/buffs to track for m+? rupture/garrote, deathstalker mark from hero talents and big cds?

[nocturne quail]

Caustic spatter

[tawdry gulch]

o ya

that's a big 1

[nocturne quail]

Crimson tempest

[tawdry gulch]

tyty

[nocturne quail]

Envenom

[ivory flower]

Try to get under 80% hp, it should proc when your health go back above 80%

[arctic socket]

You can always have two crafted pieces? O.o

I only have one work

Spark

[onyx linden]

WIth the 590 gear yes. I haven't used spark yet

[orchid cedar]

this happened in DF too, check stats instead of the buff

[arctic socket]

You can craft 590 gear with emblishments? I’m trolling apparently (without sparks)

[orchid cedar]

couse you might be getting it but the tooltip doesn't say so

[onyx linden]

Ah, that did it. Had to go below 80% and then back up

weird

ty

[spice surge]

Dw embellishments are ass anyway

But ye better than nothing

[arctic socket]

Are they rly that bad?

[orchid cedar]

where do i get me escond spark? D:

[spice surge]

2 dawnlining gives slightly more than 1 BSL did at 70

[onyx linden]

1512 crit right now with 2 590 pieces

its okay if you dont care about losing a bit of gold

[arctic socket]

So it’s undertuned?

[spice surge]

It doesnt scale with ilvl

[arctic socket]

Oh

That’s dog then

[spice surge]

Its just bugged

[arctic socket]

Like everything else

[spice surge]

Some embellishments dont even work

[arctic socket]

[arctic socket]

How much gold roughly

[spice surge]

10-15k + fee

[arctic socket]

Is 400k enough

[spice surge]

Depends on what youre crafting

[dapper fractal]

is anyone else crashing when entering the main hall in tww city?

have to unstuck character to even use it again

[arctic socket]

Prob bracers / feet

[arctic crown]

!plater

[soft dew]

does anyone know if its a dps gain to space envenoms more even when at 5-6 combo points to increased uptime?

[onyx linden]

I got belt/bracers for a total of like 25k maybe

[robust river]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[onyx linden]

its not much

[spice spire]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

• For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[runic terrace]

So, how do I generate the last CP for triggering the Capstone. With FoK or Poisoned Knife or something else?

[robust river]

@arctic crown

[spice spire]

Nope we wasting these days

[arctic crown]

Love u

[runic terrace]

So Muti it is. Feels kinda strange tbh

[glass spade]

Since our Mythic+ build only has one charge or Shiv - is it most important to pop that prior to Kingsbane?

I know normally we want to pop the second Shiv to ride out the duration of Kingsbane, but I wasn’t sure what to do with just one Shiv.

[runic terrace]

Was asking me the same question 😁

[arctic socket]

Before

[spice spire]

[loud light]

You shiv to cover the last 8 seconds of kingsbane, assuming your target lives that long

[cyan summit]

whats the best

[soft dew]

so for deathstalker ur never really waiting for energy while on max combo points to maintain an evenom streka right

[cyan summit]

trinket

?

[soft dew]

or am i missurderstanding

[spice spire]

ST yes

Aoe no

[soft dew]

yea talking st

[arctic socket]

Ara-Kara egg + signet is pretty cool

[spice spire]

Egg goodge don’t have signet

[wooden perch]

whats the wep embelishment called?

[spice spire]

I’m a trinket slut apparently

[surreal zealot]

Is there anyone having a GOATED plater addons to track poison/bleeds please ? 🙏

[spice spire]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[spice spire]

[surreal zealot]

You are the goat HIMSELF

[spice spire]

No sir but ty

[arctic socket]

I got a egg fully upgradeded egg

[cyan summit]

ok nice

[arctic socket]

Then I got signet

Was good day

[spice spire]

Don’t get signed bud

[arctic socket]

[arctic socket]

I wanna get signed so I can play wow all day

Lemme stream my mythic prog

Gimmie money

[cyan summit]

is it better than darkoon trikets ?

[spice spire]

Poe league bud login

[spice spire]

dark moon is just stat sticks

[arctic socket]

Sim it on your character

Was better for me though

[spice spire]

They’ll be replaced pretty quick if they are better

[wide ridge]

is it correct to cast a spender with 5cp to consume 1 mark stack or always max cp -1 (6 or 7)

[cyan summit]

i got signet

[arctic socket]

My Poe league went amazing

[arctic socket]

Egg won’t be replace

Signet will

Egg is replaced by better egg

[cyan summit]

whats the egg triket called ?

[arctic socket]

We believe in egg supremacy

[south nest]

arakara sacbrood

[wooden perch]

what stat beside haste is goated rn

[arctic socket]

At max rank of heroic at full stack egg is giving me almost 5k agility

[spice spire]

Haste isn’t goated

[south nest]

also its very likely that trinkets from raid are going to get buffed

[cursive flicker]

Mastery/crit

[spice spire]

It’s crit mastery but it fluctuates nonstop

[arctic socket]

What ever your robot tells you

[cursive flicker]

Think anything over 5 is a bonus, spending with 5 is fine

[glass spade]

Do we really only want to fan of knives to clear the witness or with 3+ targets?

[prisma coyote]

wher is the best stats for assa?

[cyan summit]

anyone here can coach me for gold ?

[spice spire]

Yes

[spice spire]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[thorn fjord]

Hi Friends

[arctic socket]

Fok with ctw is better to use

Over multi

[spice spire]

Ctw

[arctic socket]

Only with ctw though

[arctic socket]

What you want me to type out that

[spice spire]

GM king

[thorn fjord]

Was hoping i'd log on and see some juicy changes

[arctic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/junior-monkey-unc-old-gif-14196474278562290439

[cursive flicker]

Anyone have thoughts on Weathered Stormfront Vest being worth crafting during heroic week? It’s 597 and has crit/mastery on it, but everything I’ve seen has a dungeon piece as pre-season bis

[ashen scroll]

my greatest wish is that they let us have ER combo points have deathstalkers mark interaction..surely

[spice spire]

Nah I just hate clear the witness on a personal level dog not everything is about you bozo

[arctic socket]

[thorn fjord]

CTW still better than CT in ST

[arctic socket]

I hate how they won’t fix anima charged cp 😭

[thorn fjord]

bam boom diggity

[spice spire]

Good luck. It does work on 3 apparently

When you have an animacharged cp consumed by envenom on 3

Spaghetti ahh coding

[thorn fjord]

Would be cool if FoK refreshed splatter

[arctic socket]

Huh

[wanton field]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[spice spire]

!dn

[prisma monolith]

Do I need to always be in stealth to apply a Deathstalker Mark?

• Only the initial application. Darkest Night reapplies and will be the majority of your applications
  Echoing Reprimand....
• Yes, Echoing Reprimand doesn't interact with the Mark / Darkest Night, this is one of the biggest bugs still plaguing Deathstalker as a whole
• Until it is fixed, you would want to run 2/2 Lethality and still put 1 point into Echoing Reprimand
  But the 3rd cp or something?
• Correct, there has been a newly found... bug? interaction? With the Mark and Echoing Reprimand. It requires you to have your 3rd combo point be animacharged, the Mark be applied from Darkest Night, and then consuming the animacharge with Envenom. Should all those conditions be met, it will consume a stack of the Mark as intended.
  Does Blizzard know?
• There is no way they don't know. This has been mass reported, screamed from the rooftops, highlighted in every wowhead article, youtube video, forum post and stream since Deathstalker was revealed in alpha. The only thing we can do is keep reporting the bug through the in-game report, making noise on forums, and waiting.

[arctic socket]

That would be bust worthy

[thorn fjord]

It would make for better fluidity

But if they havent done it by now its never going to happen

[arctic socket]

We still have next Tuesday

[spice spire]

We still have each other homies

[alpine galleon]

Hi all - has anyone experimented at all with the Nerubian Pheromone Secreter rep item? It doesn't look like its simming correctly with the sockets

[spice spire]

And we can gaslight each other for a various amount of changes

[thorn fjord]

Only secreter I’ve experimented with is @spice spire

[spice spire]

Dog?

[arctic socket]

Bro could cover me with his pheromones fr fr

[spice spire]

Dog pt 2?

[thorn fjord]

Woof

[arctic socket]

Bark

[thorn fjord]

What’s this thing do?

[alpine galleon]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=217894/nerubian-pheromone-secreter

passive trinket sold by Threads rep. I think its good but doesn't sim correctly

[arctic socket]

Last time I saw something about this item it wasn’t procing correctly

Just farm up a signet / egg

[lunar pond]

Drops a translucent orb that is hard as hell to see when solo, much less in group content

Like a tiny pink mist orb

[spice spire]

Witherbark

My beloved

[south prawn]

hello lads, deathstalker is the move for m+ ye?

[spice spire]

Both are more than fine

Stalker will do more damage in the end

[south prawn]

hmmm

might as well start learning it then

thx broski

[spice spire]

Gl king

[lucid meteor]

Hey guys have a question, when I consume my 3rd deathstalker mark and also consume the envenom crit buff at the same time… is it not supposed to either give me another mark on the target or at least my buff again to reapply the mark

[wicked spire]

Rogue friends - are the crafted BIS items likely to change? Trying to decide where to spend my first spark

[noble pagoda]

yeah the reapplication is bugged if you use the 3rd animacharged combo point

at least it has consistently been for me

[spice spire]

🔮

If you’re worried I’d recommend holding it atm

[solid venture]

Indie company innit

[spice spire]

Oi bruv

[lucid meteor]

That’s not what I mean nara

Nothing to do with echoing reprimand

[noble pagoda]

that‘s the only connection I have where the reapplication didn‘t work

maybe that was the case for you as well

[lucid meteor]

Like actually just a max combo point envenom on the last stack of mark while also having the crit buff that reapplies the mark

And then it just removes the mark and I don’t get the buff back

[noble pagoda]

oh I‘m sorry yeah I was completely somewhwre else

[lucid meteor]

Like I just lose my mark and I don’t have a way to apply it

[noble pagoda]

yeah I‘ve seen that happen too

yes

[lucid meteor]

Happens multiple times a dungeon

[noble pagoda]

you‘re definitely supposed to get it again but I‘ve definitely seen it happen a few times too

[spice spire]

🍝

[noble pagoda]

the code behind it must be absolutely messed up for them still not fixing it

[lucid meteor]

Also love when I get my envenom off on a mob and it kills it and I don’t get my shit back😂

[spice spire]

I’ve not played enough to start noticing interactions failing yet

That’s a heater

[noble pagoda]

yeahhh

[lunar pond]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-P988ibclxaKCGrAcrx_v1X-hLdkCVUgy_ZFPzLNn_s/mobilebasic

[lucid meteor]

Deathstalker is cool but holy fuck it’s annoying with all the bugs

[noble pagoda]

It‘s not even cool enough to warrant it being broken lol

i love how ass plays rn but the hero talents just feel like pssives

i guess they are lol

[south nest]

is Darkest Night not benefiting from shiv correctly?

[noble pagoda]

let me coat my weapons with blood thinners

[thorn fjord]

No way im going back to doing that

I didnt even run Bark when it was bis

[spice spire]

Wdym

[dim mural]

you sending crests on hc gear upgrades?

[south nest]

i dont know if shiv is buffing the already buffed (from darkest night) envenom dmg

[lunar pond]

Weathered don’t matter, send

[spice spire]

It should be? Any reason you think it doesn’t?

Actual questions btw

Not being sarcastic

[arctic crown]

The higher key build will be the cleave one?

[fluid smelt]

Am I crazy or bad at this game? Alot of the times I am doing dungeons my death stalkers mark and darkest night will randomly fall off instead of giving my the dn buff again. Or it falls off entirely after consuming DN. Am I bad or is this a bug?

[arctic crown]

Dropping sudden demise

[noble pagoda]

bug

[dim mural]

okay

[noble pagoda]

99%

[fluid smelt]

Cool.

[noble pagoda]

yeah

2 weeks until season start surely it will be fixed by then

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/airplane-comedy-leslie-nielson-serious-dont-call-me-surely-gif-3518774

[south nest]

dmg just seems consistent with and without shiv buff

[spice spire]

Do you have logs?

If you don’t it’s fine

But would like to see if you have

[noble pagoda]

also you could instead use them as enchanted crests for 590 gear

[lunar pond]

If you’re looking for a map I linked a Google doc up a bit

[south nest]

i dont, im going to keep testing it

[noble pagoda]

i think it‘s more effective than upgrading hc gear to 590 by itself

and doesn‘t cost any valorstones

[round trout]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[spice spire]

Sounds good big dog.
If you do find it’s a potential bug, it’s good to know

[upper wraith]

did we catch a dmg nerf? i feel weaker today

[cyan summit]

anything worth crafting now ?

[glass spade]

Thank you all for your help and advice. I’m proud to be an ass with all of you

[cyan summit]

u have both roles sub and combat but no ass 😄

[noble pagoda]

id just hold spark and craft stuff with crests

[cyan summit]

yea what stuff what u craft? daggers?

[noble pagoda]

main hand dagger

and wrist/pants with embellishment

and a neck

[minor swift]

which proffession is best atm

for rouge

[noble pagoda]

nothing for gameplay

maybe alchemy for longer flask

[brisk matrix]

Is it worth crafting a dagger with our crest this week

[normal kindle]

No

[noble pagoda]

if you mean spark no

crest yes

[brisk matrix]

What are we saving our spark for?

[south token]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[real cypress]

Fatebound still just crap for dungeons?

[noble pagoda]

i mean you can ise it

but not really any point for hc dungeons

mats will be cheaper until s1 start and embellishments will be finalized

[real cypress]

Am I reading this right? Outlaw has more single target dmg than other specs now?

[indigo mulch]

Is m0 being released at the same time as m+ is being released?

[grim jay]

it has most of the time

[normal mist]

no

[grim jay]

its still worse

[indigo mulch]

Next week then i guess?

[royal lantern]

next week m0 and normal/heroic raids

week after that mythic raid/m+

[indigo mulch]

Oh o:

Sad

[real cypress]

Why is outlaw worse?

[royal lantern]

wow heavy heavy favors burst

always did

outlaw is a anti-burst spec

[subtle kiln]

A week from Tue/Wed

[royal lantern]

flat dmg profile has its uses and is not bad, but quiet often the important raid fights need burst

[south nest]

norm/heroic is sep 10th

[balmy condor]

Sorry who are you

[real cypress]

I played outlaw all last expac and yea the burst isnt there but the only issue i ever ran into was dropping all your bones between phases and transitions in dungeons and the hard target cap

[thorn fjord]

woooooow

[balmy condor]

O yah that’s what I meant whoops

[uneven plume]

So basically everything

XD

[real cypress]

LOL

Hence the switch to assass this expac

[thorn fjord]

Im waiting for them to fix OL so i can play it in dungeons tbh

OL down bad rn tho

[novel arrow]

Does anyone know if this is just weapon poisons? Or also Envenom and Kingsbane ?

[royal lantern]

envenom/kingsbane are poison damage

[novel arrow]

Are they? They say nature so I never know anymore.

[royal lantern]

welcome to wow

[sonic lotus]

So is Caustic spatter

[lofty gazelle]

Does the very rare ring off of ansurek prof off of our poisons?

[novel arrow]

TBH it all says nature.... It should just say nature damage.

[novel star]

yeah blizzards tooltips are really pathetic

[royal lantern]

poison is nature dmg, but nature dmg is not poison

[thorn fjord]

Finkle is Einhorn Einhorn is Finkle

[balmy condor]

It’s not a season 1 trinket

[cyan summit]

guys whats the best embellishment for the dagger

?

[balmy condor]

Ascension right now but I wouldn’t embellish right now

[cyan summit]

do u do private coaching btw ? i saw ur viedos it was great

[balmy condor]

With all the tuning happening

[thorn fjord]

If we can make it past heroic day tuning and patching we're in the clear

[balmy condor]

I have in the past, time is a bit tight these days

[thorn fjord]

FOR SURE

[thorn fjord]

Will you teach me how to talk to grils?

[cyan summit]

can i know why wouldnt u ?

[brisk matrix]

He said times tight lol

[thorn fjord]

If you commit and it gets nerfed you're screwed

[balmy condor]

They’re tuning

Don’t craft into tuning

[arctic socket]

@balmy condor can you teach me how to talk to guys?

[brisk matrix]

Did they fix the dagger speed

[balmy condor]

Yes

[brisk matrix]

It shows 1.8 now

[thorn fjord]

Oh snap

[brisk matrix]

In blacksmithing journel

[balmy condor]

It’s just strictly worse than crafting a regular dagger with ascension

[thorn fjord]

that was quick actually

[spice spire]

Yeah it’s been fixed

[balmy condor]

But I’m fully expecting ascension to get obliterated

All the embellishments atm are like 0.5-0.7%

Ascension is like double that

[grim jay]

how was it quick

if it was like this since beta

as in

all the time

[storm zinc]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[grim jay]

maybe they just buff the others

dunno if 0.5ish % is a good spot for embellishments

[balmy condor]

That would be reasonable

We don’t do that

[shy pecan]

[balmy condor]

But like the blacksmithing dagger is 0.5%, 1% with the patch

Hurts yourself

[brisk matrix]

This ur first time playing wow? They don't buff thing's up they just bring everything over preforming down

[balmy condor]

And doesn’t aoe

Where as ascension on a regular dagger

Is 1%, 2% with patch

And gives stats

For free

So it’s kinda ????

[royal lantern]

yes, that is often the right approach? whats the problem lol

[arctic socket]

Accept my btag whispyr

[balmy condor]

Accept dn

[arctic socket]

Dn

What

[shy pecan]

What’s dn?

[balmy condor]

Darkest night

The capstone on deathstalker

[shy pecan]

Oh. Okay

[solid venture]

Sawcon

[brisk matrix]

He had the pipe dream of them buffing other embellishments up

[arctic socket]

I accepted thanks

[grim jay]

chainsaw expo is pretty good

ngl

[nova aspen]

blizz knew what they were doing

[balmy condor]

Are you the bnet request I got during stream like 3 days ago

[normal mist]

DN - Dankest Night

[weak isle]

!deeznuts

[junior aurora]

smh phishing attempts

[arctic socket]

No I’m not

[nova aspen]

giving the chad spec a DN abbreviation

[balmy condor]

I got a bnet friend request and I was like ah did I dox my bnet and someone’s figured it out

[arctic socket]

Actually I might be

[royal lantern]

femboi#4269?

[vapid ether]

/wa

[arctic socket]

What’s the name?

[weak isle]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[balmy condor]

V something

Don’t remember the rest

[arctic socket]

Nah isn’t me

[woeful meteor]

check friend requests @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/adventurine-snap-hsr-honkai-star-rail-prostate-gif-5240307195319551526

[soft dew]

i was looking at perfectos guide on maxroll, does anyone know whats that garrote for?

[cerulean walrus]

Noooo my Slice and Dice badge is gone

Wtf

[shy pecan]

Same

[balmy condor]

Do you want the snarky answer or the real answer

[shy pecan]

[nova aspen]

snarky answer

[cerulean walrus]

Why live?

[arctic socket]

Firestar#1140 @balmy condor add

[soft dew]

speak ur mind

[grim jay]

whispyr your WA hates me ngl

[distant plinth]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[cerulean walrus]

If we can’t be slicin and dicin

[balmy condor]

The snarky answer is no one knows what that fucking garrote is for

[weak isle]

Who doesnt

[balmy condor]

The real answer is he probably thinks extending the garrote at the end of imp gar is a gain

[grim jay]

dang, after all ive done for you and your WAs

[balmy condor]

But it isn’t

[weak isle]

Hahaha

Real

[languid tide]

a wonder that not more players play rogue i think its pretty fun imo 🥰 only stupid thing is the stealth thing with tanks chain pullung and vanish cd imo

[vestal wren]

its to extend garrote duration obv., how didn't you know

oh damn

[cerulean walrus]

Uh oh

[vestal wren]

i was too slow

[cerulean walrus]

[arctic socket]

Lmao uh oh

[vestal wren]

now its not funny anymore

[balmy condor]

[languid tide]

[weak isle]

Didn't get me anywhere in the end

[bleak ledge]

Getting to turn a piece of gear into a mini trinket always felt like it would end up strong

[vestal wren]

whispyr mastered fast typing

[faint path]

Dude sub rogue literally 2 button on aoe or st is that a bug deal tons of damage

[arctic socket]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote is roughly 10-12% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon
• While Without a Trace can allow for better vanish timings, the difference in damage provided is at most replacing a non-stealth opener with a stealth opener (you aren't necessarily getting "added" casts, just "better" casts)
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[balmy condor]

On mobile as well

[arctic socket]

@languid tide

[vestal wren]

[ivory flower]

Play double vanish, People here Will hate my advive. But until they fix bugs it helps a lot

[junior aurora]

smh twitter fingers ass

[languid tide]

yeah and? i still like to spread my dots i was talking about that i like the game play not talking about dmg

[vestal wren]

no bug, but its not 2 buttons

[proven jasper]

[arctic socket]

4?

[limber lion]

It is if you macro it

[arctic socket]

Or is sub 5 buttons now

[faint path]

literally shadowstrike evis shadow evis and deals realllllly huge damage 😄

[arctic socket]

You’re forgetting rupture n

[balmy condor]

@limber lion assassination doing big damage with 2 buttons is it a bug?

[arctic socket]

That 1m cd

[proven jasper]

the big damage button isnt even in the combo

[balmy condor]

Literally mut env mut env and deals reaaaaallllly huge damage

[vestal wren]

^

[proven jasper]

Hugeeeeeeeee

[cerulean walrus]

YUGE

[vestal wren]

2 button spec flaming other 2 button spec

[proven jasper]

living the life

[vestal wren]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fight-cat-fighting-cute-fight-cute-cat-fight-fight-gif-1524725573532120617

[faint path]

No dude literally not lack of energy not redotting every target just shadow evis full combo all the time .D

[balmy condor]

How do you do, fellow 2 button spec

[nova aspen]

cat fights are the best

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-startled-cat-scared-cat-ambush-gif-25294792

[proper dagger]

anyone have a semi reliable meld stealth macro

[cerulean walrus]

The only melding I do is melding into my chair brother

[spice spire]

How about you meld !dn bud

[cerulean walrus]

I’d love to

[spice spire]

Hot

[cerulean walrus]

I will continue to mourn the loss of my SnD badge

Gone, but never forgotten.

[spice spire]

@royal lantern

[subtle iron]

https://tenor.com/view/maçavras1-gif-16101498646883457546

[wide ferry]

570 Ilvl should be good to start normal raid and m+ when they open up right? Im not farming heroics for shit lol

[balmy condor]

There’s no way

[languid tide]

the thing i found sub best was for delves could run +11 in 6 min but i think they patches something so not sure its gonna work now

[cerulean walrus]

Normal is easy heroic is easy get gear go next

[balmy condor]

Actually 0 shot

That people are seriously farming first boss

In heroic dungeons

I refuse to accept this

[cerulean walrus]

Accept it

[balmy condor]

I know wow community is dumber than a brick

[cerulean walrus]

[balmy condor]

But no

[mortal badger]

fr

[balmy condor]

They’re surely not that dumb

[royal lantern]

if you do random heroics and get thrown into that dungeon

100% chance that the tank will leave after the first boss, 50% that 1 agility/strenght dps will leave aswell

[junior aurora]

they are

[royal lantern]

like, i NEVER had a group from start to finish in that dungeon

always 1 guy minimum leaving after first boss

[balmy condor]

Jesus Christ

[languid tide]

i got insulted cause i did not want to give my trinket to a random guy spamming me 5 times 30 sec after it dropped when i gave it to a dps who sayed nothing he went apeshit and insulted me and put me on ignore lmoa

[cerulean walrus]

Actual degenerate behavior

[junior aurora]

people gotta get their bis adventurer track trinket

[wide ferry]

when i try and go higher than +3 it says i gotta wait till season 1?

[cerulean walrus]

Flashbacks to shadowlands heroics

[subtle iron]

I just want cloak 😦

[languid tide]

was on beta you cant do more then 3 now

[wide ferry]

ahh gotchya

oh well, time to gear up my lock f it

[inner swift]

@balmy condor dunno if you already seen it but they made the attack speed of the crafted dagger 1.8

[nova aspen]

do they not know u get valor for finishing the dungeon

and it takes maybe 5 extra minutes

[fallow estuary]

pins

[inner swift]

i actually seen the ping but failed to see that part, apologies

[balmy condor]

Pins

Oh

Got beat to it

[spice spire]

Old

Too slow for it

[austere sorrel]

Fingers too small

[rotund oak]

and too chonky

[lunar oracle]

what dungeon finder times u people get? its at 23 mins here again :/

[royal lantern]

@balmy condor just did the dungeon

oh, it only shows 1 guy leaving

[spice spire]

I got it first run

Which means I’ll never see it again

[balmy condor]

Pog

1/5 ez

[rotund oak]

can we have an inevitability role plz(or cold blood,that works too)

[fallow estuary]

i yolo upgraded my mainhand to 593 few days ago, seems like i fucked up bad since we need to craft weapon for embalishment?

[balmy condor]

With current tuning yes, but who knows

[lavish brook]

Whispyr. Thank you so much for that A-Z youtube video. Unreal. I feel ashamed about how little I really knew

[spice spire]

Embellish might get nuked who cares we’re not even in the season yet

[balmy condor]

Np man I know nothing either

[royal lantern]

care about crafted gear 1 week after raid release

[fallow estuary]

so i just wait with crafting till tuning is done and then use it as my offhand i guess

[balmy condor]

I’m a Jon snow looking ass mfer

[fallow estuary]

thanks :)

[royal lantern]

when blizz slowly needs to un-fuck the game

[vapid fossil]

what are the best weapon enchants

[balmy condor]

Yeh

[spice spire]

It’s on his profile big dog

Click the name he won’t bite I promise

[indigo epoch]

@balmy condor great vid on m+ bro but 1 and a half hours? Damn. You need someone to cut that shit down to 10 minute goldfish attention span YT length. Haha

[balmy condor]

I mean I’m gonna be honest

[spice spire]

He needed to take his gf on a date night so he made his own film

[balmy condor]

That’s why it’s chaptered

But the info is already dense

If I make a 10 min video it would just end up being 10 videos of 10 minutes

[vapid fossil]

Hello what are the best weapon enchants. Thanks

[paper tiger]

b

[indigo epoch]

Fair. It is good content
Appreciate it m8

[junior aurora]

brainrot is real

[balmy condor]

Hello read a guide thanks

[west willow]

i know our stat prio is crit = mastery >= haste > versa, but is there any reason at all that when crafting gear i wouldn't make it crit/mast?

[vapid fossil]

I couldnt find it on the wowhead one

[royal lantern]

fr on god

[earnest hare]

are crafting 590 daggers worth? or should i be saving these crests?

[rotund oak]

no its not

[balmy condor]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/enchants-gems-pve-dps

?

[vapid fossil]

Thank you sir!

[balmy condor]

It’s legit the first thing on the page

[nova aspen]

[shy pecan]

lol

[earnest hare]

is it worth crafting anything or is it better to save it?

[lucid meteor]

Been doing this because I love pissing people off

[rotund oak]

highly doubt it matters now since embelishments dont work

[indigo comet]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[junior aurora]

get played for a fool

he got u to do all the legwork

[west willow]

weathered crests are made obsolete when s1 starts, no?

[balmy condor]

Can craft 590’s for the crests but don’t use your spark

[grim oasis]

whats the command for the tricks WA? - please ignore

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[earnest hare]

so its 180 max this week, is it worth crafting all that? should be 6 590 gear

[iron carbon]

Can't wait to have time to watch your videos @balmy condor Thanks for the job

[rotund oak]

i dont understand why would you craft tbh,u can literally get an adventurer dagger and upgrade it to 593 and u gucci

but whatever

[bright dew]

What is “worth” is up to the person. If you don’t have a lot of gold making 6 590s isn’t really worth since it’s all being replaced anyway

[balmy condor]

It’s less crests

[noble pagoda]

i mean you can have a 590 dagger without spending as much valorstones and crests

[balmy condor]

Crafting a 590 is 30, upgrading a 593 is 45 I think

[rotund oak]

still its 3 ilvl more so it makes sense

[iron carbon]

Less crest and you don't have to loot it

[rotund oak]

loot it,as in do world quests..

i took 2 adv daggers today

[iron carbon]

Some people are lucky

[rotund oak]

with world quests..

idk

[spice surge]

Ultimtely do whatever you want, it doesnt matter much

[rotund oak]

exactly

doesnt rly matter

[bright dew]

This

[west willow]

its far less crest efficient to upgrade to 593 than it is to craft 590

[iron carbon]

I don't have weapons in my world quests

[bright dew]

Do whatever you want just don’t use your spark or delve keys and you chillin

[indigo comet]

@balmy condor hey there is it possible to add slice and dice timer to the weakaura?
or we just don't care about the uptime

[junior aurora]

man yall are minmaxing 590 gear

[balmy condor]

Yeah so neat thing right

There is a slice and dice timer

But you have slice and dice up

So you don’t need to track it anymore

[west willow]

It's 60 crests to make an item 593, it's 30 crests to straight up craft a 590

[balmy condor]

Envenom extends it

[west willow]

You should never upgrade to 593

[noble pagoda]

it's really simple to add a timer yourself to the wa

[indigo comet]

cool

[earnest hare]

if it makes getting invited to keys easier why not, ppl complain they cant get invited

[noble pagoda]

just look at another rogue wa that has one and mimic it if you want one

[junior aurora]

brother keys arent out for 2 weeks

[earnest hare]

and?

[junior aurora]

3*

[west willow]

The reason people are minmaxing their crafting gear right now is sadly because there isn't fuckall to do rn

[noble pagoda]

yeah haha

[balmy condor]

I mean he could just turn the snd tracker to show always instead of show when missing, there is a snd tracker

But why would you

[junior aurora]

gonna minmax this week and really have fuckall to do next week

[onyx gyro]

New rogue here. Can anyone link me to a beginner guide to aoe for death stalker and fated? I feel like I got the ST down but I’m so confused with rotation with aoe like am I suppose to tab target 5 enemies to get rupture about before crimson tempest and the spam knives and envenom. Do I tab target enemies with mutilate to get splatter? I’m coming from ele shaman and boomkin so rogue is so much more complex

[junior aurora]

dunno why blizzard did 2 weeks until m0 drops

[grim oasis]

this week is rogue next week is warrior

[high pulsar]

how do you craft a 590 item?

[snow kindle]

the tww blue gear

[high pulsar]

ah

[snow kindle]

R5 gets 590

[strange python]

Ya 2 weeks is too long, think i'll afk 2 weeks so bored

[high pulsar]

its just from the order thing?

[snow kindle]

yes

[high pulsar]

awesome thank you

do you need the null stones there?

[west willow]

no

[indigo mulch]

So wait.. next wed we can do normal/hc raids and m0?

[main hemlock]

hellooo guys, is it normal that kingsbane deals 2mil dmg only now in ST?

[desert cove]

no

week after next

[main hemlock]

tried new assa rogue and I did the rotation like last season

[indigo mulch]

Makes sense.

[snow kindle]

really wish they did m+ this next week unlucky

[balmy condor]

Yes

[noble pagoda]

at least m0 would be nice

[indigo mulch]

Ah nice so atleast m0

What is HC season dungeons though?

o_O

[desert cove]

it's good pacing as is

most people aren't sweaty try hards

[main hemlock]

so is assa rogue weak in ST then?

[desert cove]

m0 being available would feel too rushed for everyone else

[balmy condor]

No

[bleak ledge]

im gonna delve so fucking hard

[balmy condor]

Assa is good st

[desert cove]

https://tenor.com/view/im-coming-ben-stiller-mining-walking-here-i-come-gif-17903367

[snow kindle]

cap.

[noble pagoda]

no way

[main hemlock]

I jsut get to 600k at max in ST somehow

probably doing something wrong then

[bright dew]

When S1 starts, heroic dungeons go to like 587 or something

[main hemlock]

I play it like last season pretty much

[indigo mulch]

[balmy condor]

Yeah rotation is very similar

[cyan summit]

#subtlety

[desert cove]

ah yes it's cap b/c I'm taking into account the mindset of more casual players, which make up the majority of the playerbase

[main hemlock]

is deathstalker best for ST and the other one for m+ ?

[snow kindle]

one week is plenty for a casual palyer

[bleak ledge]

m0 would be ok preseason if it was weekly lockout

[snow kindle]

that is the account you should take

[bleak ledge]

but as of now i dont think its needed

[noble pagoda]

oh m0 won't be weekly lockout?

[bleak ledge]

daily

[indigo mulch]

Daily

[bleak ledge]

with season

[indigo mulch]

Yeah

[noble pagoda]

oh okay

[desert cove]

so once again you're just proving my point, by putting your perspective on what you think is enough time for a casual player

[grim oasis]

#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,nodead][@target] shadowstep

should attempt mouseover then attempt what I ahve targeted no?

[shy pecan]

Yes

[snow kindle]

if a casual player cant hit 80 in two weeks they are less than casual

[noble pagoda]

i don't really get why it would have to matter because you don't really have to do stuff just because it's available

[desert cove]

it's not just hitting 80

[bleak ledge]

you can also just turn on global mouseover if you dont want to manage macros

[desert cove]

it's a whole new expansion

there is so much to do

[grim oasis]

no i have melee brain ill cast random shit everywhere

[indigo mulch]

I'd say i'm a casual player. I got a fulltime job, a family and a sick mom and i still manage to get to 80 and get some gear.

[grim oasis]

yeah its just not working right it refuses to go to my target and will only do mouseover

[desert cove]

casuals aren't going to laser in on grinding heroics and optimizing gear to get maxed out in a week

[desert cove]

if you're in this discord and actively checking guides you are by definition not a casual

[junior aurora]

then why cater the release schedule to them

[noble pagoda]

yeah but that's completely fine right, I don't really see how you'd get stressed just by m0 being available

[desert cove]

b/c they make up the majority of the playerbase

[noble pagoda]

you're already taking it at your own pace so

[junior aurora]

waiting 3 weeks until u can even do an m0 is crazy

[indigo mulch]

I mean, i game casual with limited time. Just because i'm here dosen't mean that i'm actually playing the game.

I can't sit for 4~5hr straight playing the game. Just not possible anymore D;

Not with a kid climbing on you and an angry wife complaning i'm not cooking :C

[snow kindle]

it rly aint that hard or takes long to hit 80 and be 560ilvl as a casual.

obv if you want to do all the world stuff its going to take longer.

[worn badger]

im "casual" max 2 hours 3-4 times a week. and already 580

[shy pecan]

Are people really trying to define casual?

[worn badger]

but ive been playing for 20 years lol

[indigo mulch]

Ey, me too! 😄

Oldies unite!

[worn badger]

some how i have under a year played though, boggles my mind. i played eq1 for 4 years and had like 1.5 years played heh

[junior aurora]

i wouldnt even define casual as playtime lmao

[noble pagoda]

you cant define it

because there's not some arbitrary cutoff

[indigo mulch]

Getting there though 😄

[worn badger]

does any one else feel like mining/engineer knowledge points are just way to rare compared to the other tradeskills?

[novel star]

is this really true?

i feel like guides are most useful for casuals lol

[spice spire]

No because I’m a filthy casual

[novel star]

just read the rotation page and do what it tells you to do without learning why

anyone can do that

at any level

[worn badger]

also, are sims still wonky ? Droptimizer keeps telling me the Burning bee trinket is like 5k dps ahead of the ara'kara sac

[noble pagoda]

you'd have to even care about doing that first

[novel star]

maybe im wrong and casual mindset goes deeper than i thought idk

[noble pagoda]

no plenty of casual players defnitely do

but there are even more people who just simply don't care about that which is totally fair

[tropic cedar]

casuals dont bother reading up on guides because they dont care that much usually

[fluid smelt]

Is there a plater profile to help track who our dsm target is? Seems to be easy to get it lost in a sea of hp bars in dungeons

[novel star]

fair enough yeah

no dps meter installed

[balmy condor]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[balmy condor]

Can try mine if you’d like

[desert cove]

I use your plater profile

[deep sorrel]

anyone know if renown crests ignore season cap?

[desert cove]

the color change for marked targets is a godsend for me

[tropic cedar]

i used to have the color change back when SBS was an active in SLands, good times

a good shout for Deathmark tho for sure

[amber sun]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[worn badger]

speaking of casual i think i need to bite the bullet and stop being stubborn and learn to use WA's this expac. dont know why they seem so daunting to me, maybe its how "noisy" they seem in videos

[scarlet maple]

is sin-spec cooking?

[snow kindle]

WA are fully customizable 👍 can practically do whatever you want no noise or blasting noise

[royal lantern]

i agree

Like, idk, the leveling phase is the opposite of long this time, if all you do is mainstory you need like, 4 hours to finish it, and then 2-3 sidequest chains and you are max level

doing EVERYTHING takes time, but thats not "level to 80"

[snow kindle]

this xpacs leveling was also hype so it felt short

the side quests didnt feel like ass to do

[waxen oyster]

I still need to do the sidequests for the first 3

only did the spider zone’s sidestories so far

[deep sorrel]

i loved listening to kobold granny's stories

[royal lantern]

i mean, they did a good balance

If you dont care about anything, you can just rush max level fast, and the mainstory is only the absolute basic stuff

If you care about story, you have 50% of the sidestorys beeing basicaly extensions to the mainstory, and the other half beeing "real" side storys

[noble pagoda]

side quests were more fun than mainquest for me tbh

[crude nymph]

the most cursed quest

[noble pagoda]

also I just had deathstalker proc off of two animachargd combo poitns after another

[waxen oyster]

Yeah it was mostly finish the main campaign because its required

[noble pagoda]

i feel powerful

[crude nymph]

Elderly kobold keeps your prisoner

[noble pagoda]

after three stories i was very much how much more do you want to tell me granny

[waxen oyster]

and kobold granny was part of the help 3 people sidequest section

[noble pagoda]

yeah haha

[mighty rampart]

doesn`t the dawnthread embelishment stack ?

[spice surge]

it does

take damage and heal back up

[mighty rampart]

or is it bugged

i have 2 and only got crit for one

[noble pagoda]

i get crit from two

[waxen oyster]

still dont get why the df embellish still works

if i wear my bsl neck from s4 the effect is still active

[mighty rampart]

that fixed it ty 🙂

[keen spruce]

[shy pecan]

[nova aspen]

[crude nymph]

[silk bane]

[coral vale]

anyone have a pre raid bis list? the one on icy veins is 100% incorrect

[vague thorn]

shouldnt you have one when you know its incorrect

[past forum]

here's the pre raid bis

[coral vale]

ive just been simming everything i get, but would be cool to have a list of items i could farm

[mild phoenix]

droptimizer then!

[crude nymph]

[nova aspen]

have u checked the other famous guide sites

[waxen oyster]

How do you know its wrong then

[coral vale]

idk if you guys are trolling or what

but stacking crit/mast on literally every item is not the move

[normal mist]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[normal mist]

yeah we know

[waxen oyster]

I mean if you’re going to call somethhing wrong

it implies you know what is bis

[coral vale]

lmao

[shy pecan]

Anyway, BIS lists are just something for SEO and getting clicks for wowhead these days. They’re not actually anything worthwhile because they’re an old concept. Simming is always your most accurate answer.

[normal mist]

Every time i read "bis list" i puke a little bit

[sweet dust]

is there a way to make the weak aura only load in dungeons and raids?

[vague thorn]

and the list has items with vers and haste as well so ?!?

[shy pecan]

It’s under conditions

[coral vale]

if you simmed every item available in game you would have a real BiS list tho? like what are you guys on

[waxen oyster]

Yeah sin likes every stat

more news at 11

[coral vale]

assa players are just diff ig

[shy pecan]

No, because they’ll differ in various scenarios

[sweet dust]

need more than that 😅 , ive never used weak auras before

[snow kindle]

just craft full 590 and call it a day.

[normal mist]

Also i hope y'all know that BiS list is only BIS if you actually have every item of the list in the highest possible ilevel in the game

[waxen oyster]

he needs that week 1 normal parse

its serious business guys

[shy pecan]

Sorry, meant “load” (conditions), not “conditions”

[nova aspen]

ilvl is ur bis, contact me when ur 639 ilvl

[past forum]

where's the bis list for puking noises

[normal mist]

I'd have to google that as well

[knotty rose]

is Harvester's Edict bugged rn? it doesnt show on details and it doesnt show up on logs either, any info about that? 😄

[grim jay]

can you give me the load conditions for the AH ?

[nova aspen]

(dont actually contact me)

[waxen oyster]

the stat buff?

[shy pecan]

Yeah load this

[sweet dust]

this right?

[knotty rose]

The damage doesn't show, buff from orb too ;x

[sweet dust]

just tick the ones i want it to load on

[waxen oyster]

No idea never seen it drop

people suck off the sacbrood trinket so hard

[shy pecan]

Looks fine. The 10/25 are just for legacy raids

[sweet dust]

thx

[gentle reef]

what is everyone taking for place holder weapon enchants?

[spice surge]

Id recommend the cheapest of the new ones

[feral mason]

I'm trying to pinpoint this DN bug rn

its so odd

DN seems to be getting consumed and grants the damage amp, but marks just dont appear on the mob

and vice versa when a mob dies WITH MARK that i dont have targeted, sometimes i dont get DN at all

[subtle kettle]

Playing DB for heroics is everyone holding flag for blades still? Switched from dust to db for a few and feels like I’m doing no dps holding flag

[feral mason]

#subtlety

[faint path]

Ara-kara that good*

[wicked spire]

legitimate question: why are people flaming bis lists and people who ask about them?

[subtle kettle]

Oops mb boss

[feral mason]

all good, just so you could get help there

[feral mason]

pre-raid bis lists are just very unnecessary and lead to degen behaviour (like leaving from heroic dungeons after first boss)

even if you were to raid heroic DAY 1 you could just do mythic zero's beforehand and get way better gear already

[vestal wren]

flag + blades always together

[subtle kettle]

Thanks fuu

[feral mason]

multichannel fuu

[spice spire]

Sub chat in my holy assassination channel

[feral mason]

is the bot back up

!bug

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Bug tracker: https://github.com/SimCMinMax/WoW-BugTracker/labels/Rogue

[feral mason]

ah this one isnt used rn fair enough

[silk bane]

sin chat in my goonin channel?

[vestal wren]

i think i should start populating the tracker with bugs for all 3 specs

[jaunty basin]

!fuu

[vestal wren]

the one chat thats too hectic for me in discussions is outlaw

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[runic hinge]

!mr

[jaunty basin]

Oops lol

[feral mason]

im just trying to figure out what triggers these DN bugs but im always not logging when it happens

gotta perma log i guess

[vestal wren]

it does not work on edits ^^

[iron valve]

adrenaline rush brainrot

[wicked spire]

That’s fair. It’s disappointing to see that people haven’t really taken the time to explain this to people who are asking though and instead choose to take the piss

[feral mason]

some people just get a little annoyed at the same question over and over, its nothing personal

do that shit myself sometimes too

[vestal wren]

its just a lot more messages, sin/sub channel is more relaxed

[manic pebble]

!macro

!macros

[vestal wren]

!guides

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[vestal wren]

they should all have macros

[manic pebble]

ty

[spice spire]

If you find any new ones it’s good to know. Rn !dn had all noted afaik

[vestal wren]

writing in sin also gives me the oppotunity to make a joke and send it the same time whispyr corrected his answer

[feral mason]

!dn

[prisma monolith]

Do I need to always be in stealth to apply a Deathstalker Mark?

• Only the initial application. Darkest Night reapplies and will be the majority of your applications
  Echoing Reprimand....
• Yes, Echoing Reprimand doesn't interact with the Mark / Darkest Night, this is one of the biggest bugs still plaguing Deathstalker as a whole
• Until it is fixed, you would want to run 2/2 Lethality and still put 1 point into Echoing Reprimand
  But the 3rd cp or something?
• Correct, there has been a newly found... bug? interaction? With the Mark and Echoing Reprimand. It requires you to have your 3rd combo point be animacharged, the Mark be applied from Darkest Night, and then consuming the animacharge with Envenom. Should all those conditions be met, it will consume a stack of the Mark as intended.
  Does Blizzard know?
• There is no way they don't know. This has been mass reported, screamed from the rooftops, highlighted in every wowhead article, youtube video, forum post and stream since Deathstalker was revealed in alpha. The only thing we can do is keep reporting the bug through the in-game report, making noise on forums, and waiting.

[spice spire]

Also I realize that looks like a deez nuts joke but yeah

[feral mason]

yeah no this one is still ER bugs only

I think it's triggered by not having the mob targeted that dies with mark up

[vestal wren]

missed oppotunity

[spice spire]

Incredible. Love stalker

[silk bane]

im down to change it tbh

[spice spire]

I know

[silk bane]

love stalker and deez nutz go crazy

bis lore and fantasy and theme

10/10

[arctic socket]

@spice spire tell me about dn

[feral mason]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/r6BYnW84QMfpLmDR#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=11 caustic spatter on dummies is funny as hell though

wonder when they'll fix this

[spice spire]

Bro I love darkest night. Least bugged talent in the game

[arctic socket]

Now tell em about deez nuts

[spice spire]

O

No

[feral mason]

theres no way blizzard was so cringe that they took the wording of this talent literally right

[arctic socket]

What’s the hate about darkest night

[feral mason]

"your target"

surely they jusst mean the mob with mark on it and not your actual target having to die to get DN

[arctic socket]

Stop the slander on darkest night

[spice spire]

If it wasn’t bugged to hell and back

[arctic socket]

Best passive since retribution aura

[spice spire]

I wouldn’t slander it

[arctic socket]

Working truly how blizzard attended

[lucid meteor]

Yeah I wish it worked properly

Coin is cringe

[hexed canopy]

did you guys buy Darkmoon trinkets? and which?

[lucid meteor]

Cringe coin users

[arctic socket]

I farmed out heroic signet / egg

But trinket is nice too the stat stick one

[spice spire]

You should farm dn pal (darkest night)

[nimble tartan]

coin is sick af ngl

[spice spire]

Tell ‘em omie

[fair stirrup]

this is how you learn to talk to girls: make it a little easier on yourself by going to a city you do not live in. go to a public place w/ a lot of people like the mall. set a goal to approach 50 women, and start a conversation. not hitting on them, just any reason at all to have a brief and short interaction. you'll get used to it, take it from there, and slowly increase your rizz. getting over your fear of rejection and being confident and comfortable connecting w/ others

[spice spire]

He said grils tho

[fluid smelt]

Thanks. I'll import that profile when I get home from work.

[feral mason]

wait what

[spice spire]

[feral mason]

The complaint i was talking about yesterday, with proccing DN on a low hp mob not giving you darkest night back at all

it briefly does give you darkest night back and then gets rid of it

bruh what

[spice spire]

HUH

Dog please tell me you like recorded that

[feral mason]

refreshes and then goes away

look

[icy girder]

@arctic socket what’s signet?

[spice spire]

LMFAO

Ain’t no way

[feral mason]

know it looks odd since log ends right there

but combat drops so

i didnt have the buff after that i swear

what a joke

[spice spire]

I’m about to just go fatebound

My goat already knew

[nimble tartan]

lmao dont do this

bro stalkin women at the mall fr

[icy girder]

Does signet have a cast time?

[arctic socket]

Horrible advice

[acoustic roost]

no

[icy girder]

Sweet I’ll pick one up

Ty

[feral mason]

ok @spice spire im verifying this

if its the same again im actually retalenting

if they purposefully nerfed the spec with this ill be so salty

[runic basin]

!fuu