assassination

[grim jay]

Youd like me tanking. I most of the time dont chain, I gigapull, because fuck healers

I dont tank high keys tho

[limber lion]

When I did mythic+, I was getting restealths almost every single pack even with the tank chainpulling

[marble hemlock]

besides, meld is good for other stuff than restealths

[limber lion]

Most tanks chainpull when the pack is low, not when the pack is at half hp

[marble hemlock]

ye, theres different types of chainpulls, and you either chain with all the castermobs dead to get the next pack already, or when shits about to die and then you just wait behind

and get the restealth by not engaging with the next pack already

[grim jay]

Hello? Vulpera?

[marble hemlock]

unless its one of those dumb mobs that puts people into global combat. love those.

[limber lion]

Yeh

[quiet oar]

How about

No

[quiet oar]

Canceling mechanics

Because cant vanish anymore for thst

[marble hemlock]

i mean

you definitely can

[quiet oar]

Because vanish dps cd

[grim jay]

There seemingly are quite some mechanics to meld

Based on that mage list

[marble hemlock]

there are some bosses where youd definitely not vanish for DPS

becuase it was a grp DPS loss to not have vanish when you got targeted by smth you could vanish off

rezan fixate for example

especially cause oyu could bait it on yourself

but, once again, depends on grp

[grim jay]

Male elfs sadly look kinda weird on some mogs

[marble hemlock]

if you play with aug and are basically just 2 DPS, its a bit different

[quiet oar]

Well im also talking about Outlaw

And dust sub

[marble hemlock]

ye, assa can skip out on using vanish as a DPS CD the most

[quiet oar]

Ye

[marble hemlock]

but outlaw has 2 charges so they dont really run into this issue

[quiet oar]

Well now yeah

[grim jay]

Not anymore, even less dps lost on brew sub than on sin

[marble hemlock]

you just use one, and then hold the other in case you get targeted, cause then you use it for both DPS and to deny a boss mechanic

since outlaw doesnt relaly care about syncing it with CDs, we very much do unfortunately

but its a bit worse now for outlaw as well cause you only vanish during AR

[limber lion]

Vanish has never been as tiny of a dps cd for Assassination as it is now

[marble hemlock]

ye

[limber lion]

In pure raid ST setups, it's not even a dps gain whatsoever

It's only for builds that play Improved Garrote

[quiet oar]

I mean S1 df

Vanish was actually OP on outlaw

On fenryr

[brisk plank]

Is using mouseover for garrotes and ruptures good idea or should we switch between targets for venomous wounds? or it doesnt matter

[marble hemlock]

sure but you also had other classes who could do it

[quiet oar]

I dont get why Most Thing dont work anymore with feign death

[marble hemlock]

and the vanish for assa actually lined up well on fenryr

to use it as both DPS and survivability

[quiet oar]

Ye

But Outlaw could Do every jump

[marble hemlock]

almost every class had something to avoid getting jumped by fenryr anyway

[quiet oar]

Except hunter

[marble hemlock]

you could disengage the jump itself

as long as it wasnt a short jump

[royal lantern]

🦊

[marble hemlock]

most classes could just outrun the jump

[quiet oar]

Oh really?

[pale gate]

anyone have stand alone weak auras for Rupture, Clear the witnesses and death mark?

[grim jay]

You can just take a pack and copy them out

[pale gate]

yeah?

[grim jay]

Dont think many have standalone WAs

They could link

[pale gate]

i know very little about them, always find just what i need

[grim jay]

Basically you just choose a pack

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[grim jay]

And rightclick the singular WA you want, export, copy the text and import it

[marble hemlock]

ye, fenryr jump was location based. the moment he started the jump, the location was locked, you could just move away after. i.e. as rogue youd bait the jump and shadowstep, etc.

same with the small wolves

[pale gate]

ok thanks

[grim jay]

Np, will help you a lot in the future. Many things are just inside of packs nowadays

[slate crown]

the LE Collection link is a set of standalone auras that are particular ones in my pack that I felt warrented their own export link to be standalones. Most basic ones that are standard without fancy considerations I did not make standalone, but you may find helpful standalone parts inside of the Collection link.

[strange python]

Is there a plater color profile out yet that works for current dungeons? (Just a color profile)?

[fallen arch]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[fallen arch]

Those should work

Quazii’s work fine for me too

[manic quartz]

quazii

[blazing badge]

I have a macro and double clicking it gives me stealth in 99% times, excluding boss fights of course

[fallen arch]

Ye same, but it works about 9,99% of the time

Which kinda blows

[strange python]

thanks!

[fallen arch]

It’s too inconsistent for me

[blazing badge]

lets compare our macros in the evening

I''ll private message u

[royal lantern]

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-13392138837084579216

[dawn kelp]

Going back to 5% haste in this green 561 gear feels great!

[spice spire]

I don’t notice a difference!!

[rare jackal]

@slate crown is there a way to display SHT as a bar with your pack?

[slate crown]

Shadow techniques?

[rare jackal]

ye

[slate crown]

It used to be a bar but with trickster sub is very bar heavy and it started to look silly to me so I moved to an icon instead

I don't have a config option for it but it would be pretty straightforward to convert

If you want a bar instead, you could duplicate one of my other bars (like envenom) to keep the styling

Then change the buff to sht

then on the display page change progress source to Stacks

and update the maximum to your max combo points

You can modify that max value in conditions, if you want to be fancy about it and adjust it based on your talents/combo points

[oblique tangle]

What up virgins

[slate crown]

but I think14 is just always going to be the value nowadays, everyone takes both max cp talents

[oblique tangle]

Deciding between my Ass Rogue, my Unholy DK, or my Fire mage for this expac

How do we like Deathstalker so far?

[shy pecan]

Is this a custom options thing you made or new with WA?

[rare jackal]

@slate crown thank you ❤️

[fallen arch]

What was the command again for those aoe/st opener rotation visuals?

[slate crown]

New with WA

Well

New as of several releases ago

it hasn't always been there but it's been in for a bit

[shy pecan]

Ahh that’s nice

[slate crown]

yeah you used to have to do it manually

there was a snippet of code to insert into the %c in the WA discord

[shy pecan]

Yeah remember that with the custom code

[slate crown]

enough people did it that they made it into an actual setting, so that's good

[shy pecan]

Saves a lot of headache

[marble hemlock]

@balmy condor my current CP WA only goes to six. how much dps do i lose for not speccing DS so i dont have to change my WA?

[shy pecan]

Bar or weakaura for each CP?

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-flashback-cat-gif-18770750

[fallen arch]

Cursed

[royal lantern]

seli is smart, he doesnt update stuff yet because he knows that 8CP is comming in 12.0

(ER ofc still does a 7CP finisher)

[weary shoal]

hi where can i find the list of comands?

[marble hemlock]

https://i.imgur.com/JsJRFIN.jpeg

[weary shoal]

/wa

[royal lantern]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[weary shoal]

thx

where can i see all comands?

[royal lantern]

good question

[marble hemlock]

itd take me like 3 minutes to make a new WA for CP so before i do that, i wanna make sure its worth it

[slate crown]

Just make one that dynamically uses your max power and never make a new one again (and spend hours making it )

[marble hemlock]

[normal mist]

Is there anything in specific you need to know?

[heavy jolt]

we ignore ER when when have the darkest night buff up?

[shy pecan]

!dn

[prisma monolith]

Do I need to always be in stealth to apply a Deathstalker Mark?

• Only the initial application. Darkest Night reapplies and will be the majority of your applications
  Echoing Reprimand....
• Yes, Echoing Reprimand doesn't interact with the Mark / Darkest Night, this is one of the biggest bugs still plaguing Deathstalker as a whole
• Until it is fixed, you would want to run 2/2 Lethality and still put 1 point into Echoing Reprimand
  But the 3rd cp or something?
• Correct, there has been a newly found... bug? interaction? With the Mark and Echoing Reprimand. It requires you to have your 3rd combo point be animacharged, the Mark be applied from Darkest Night, and then consuming the animacharge with Envenom. Should all those conditions be met, it will consume a stack of the Mark as intended.
  Does Blizzard know?
• There is no way they don't know. This has been mass reported, screamed from the rooftops, highlighted in every wowhead article, youtube video, forum post and stream since Deathstalker was revealed in alpha. The only thing we can do is keep reporting the bug through the in-game report, making noise on forums, and waiting.

[normal mist]

beat me to it

not even a chance

[heavy jolt]

tyty

[shy pecan]

I just like typing dn

[normal mist]

LOL

[nova aspen]

is there even the slightest chance that the bug was intentional?

and therefore not a bug

[normal mist]

/doubt

[nova aspen]

since its been a thing since alpha

[normal mist]

we have some bugs going on since alpha

[nova aspen]

it just seems like a pretty easy hotfix

to go this long without fixing it

makes me worry

[novel storm]

Can we mouseover rup/gar or do we switch targets for venomous wounds or it doesnt matter at all?

[shy pecan]

ER with abilities have had issues before alpha. Like back in SL as well

[nova aspen]

personally i mouseover rup/garr

[nova aspen]

exactly which it worries me that it wont be fixed lol

[spice surge]

Hard to say its an easy fix when you have no idea how the code is setup

[novel storm]

Dont targets have to be poisoned for venomous wounds? Im new to sin so it might be stupid question lol

[normal mist]

you're spaming FoK either way

so targets will be poisoned most likely

[novel storm]

Ah i assumed i was missing something, that was it. Thanks

[nova aspen]

ye i like to stick on the one target when entering a pack, then mouseover others

gets confusing otherwise lol

[nova aspen]

true, i can't call it easy, which is also a worry

what if its a moderate to difficult fix

deathstalker will feel so much better its insane, i hope its fixed by season 1

[raw marlin]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[thorn fjord]

Qq so the buff the to env that comes up after the DS marks are used

Does it not go away if the mob dies and I just ambush the next mob?

Like will a new mark be put on the second mob

Or do I gotta wait for the env buff to drop or obv just cast full cp Env

[manic quartz]

works fine for me 😮

healthbar turns purple for marks atleast

Have you updated your profile?

[marble hemlock]

it stays

[thorn fjord]

Working as intended?

[marble hemlock]

idk

[thorn fjord]

Or bug

[marble hemlock]

im not even sure if its a good thing it stays

[thorn fjord]

It doesn’t feel like it

[marble hemlock]

since it means youll be reapplying a 3stack mark with the envenom

instead of lowering stacks from the one you applied with ambush

but idk

[thorn fjord]

Yeah I’d rather it drop if we decide to ambush a new target

In open world and dungeons it kinda feels like it’s not working as intended but 🤷‍♂️

[grim jay]

Idk why you would want to do that instead of just using the capstone

[normal mist]

I'm not a plate wearer but look at this

[flat sentinel]

looks sick whats the leather one like?

[normal mist]

you don't want to know

[thorn fjord]

Weird interaction in certain situations

[flat sentinel]

our tier looks pre sick though

[normal mist]

Its cool if you remove the headpiece

headpiece straight out from StarWars

[flat sentinel]

yeah helm is out of place lol

[royal lantern]

googles+bandana is the only headpice from tww we need

and we can have it allready

[torn shadow]

is bubbling wax any good or am i wasting my time pickpocketting it?

[gloomy thistle]

What professions do you reccomend for min maxing or not relevant ?

[normal mist]

not relevant

[grim jay]

What do you mean? You only do it one way

[normal mist]

if you're a m+ andy / raider, alchemy is always good for the 2h flasks

[grim jay]

And there isnt really any interaction

I guess you could try a DN cancel macro for ambush if you really wanna do it weird

[slim pebble]

I kinda fuck with this

[normal mist]

have you seen my recent cook?

#1262437829150113855 message

[grim jay]

Read the capstone

[thorn fjord]

Just think it’s weird that it wouldnt work both ways.. like if I have no cp opening on another mob to then have to force a full cp Env feels weird

[raven panther]

yes mb I just understood

[royal lantern]

i mean, the capstone re-applies it

but yeha, we somewhat hope for changes, cus it feels really clunky rn

[raven panther]

but you must be carefull to mark the right target ok

[fallen arch]

Ye, altho I especially dig the red color which awkwardly comes from pvp

Like, who wants to pvp

[normal mist]

not really, you just dont WANT to kill the target with envenom with your capstone

[grim jay]

Idk why that would feel more weird than wasting a global you could deal dmg with on ambush

[flat sentinel]

i like the purple one personally 😄

[grim jay]

You mark your big chunky target that you will focus anyways bcs thats how sin works tho

And you can always change target with the capstone

[raven panther]

Ah ok I understand, you next envenom put the new mark, I though you use the last mark and in same time it put the new one. SO you can change target easily ok

[normal mist]

Yasss

again

be careful

because it seems that if you KILL the target your going to apply with that 7CP envenom the new mark

you lose the mark and the buff

[thorn fjord]

It’s stupid

[raven panther]

they will probably fix this it's all good

[grim jay]

Doubt they will

[thorn fjord]

I see them changing it

[grim jay]

Because thats what happens if you consume the buff to deal increased damage and the mark gets applied afterwards

The application isnt what consumes the buff

Else you could just snipe low HP big envenoms

[thorn fjord]

If they fix the ER interaction it wouldn’t be as annoying tbh

But I suppose it’s trivial

Like how much open world content will we be doing in two months

[grim jay]

I mean they fixed half of ER, so they are working on it ig

[normal mist]

half?

[grim jay]

!dn

[prisma monolith]

Do I need to always be in stealth to apply a Deathstalker Mark?

• Only the initial application. Darkest Night reapplies and will be the majority of your applications
  Echoing Reprimand....
• Yes, Echoing Reprimand doesn't interact with the Mark / Darkest Night, this is one of the biggest bugs still plaguing Deathstalker as a whole
• Until it is fixed, you would want to run 2/2 Lethality and still put 1 point into Echoing Reprimand
  But the 3rd cp or something?
• Correct, there has been a newly found... bug? interaction? With the Mark and Echoing Reprimand. It requires you to have your 3rd combo point be animacharged, the Mark be applied from Darkest Night, and then consuming the animacharge with Envenom. Should all those conditions be met, it will consume a stack of the Mark as intended.
  Does Blizzard know?
• There is no way they don't know. This has been mass reported, screamed from the rooftops, highlighted in every wowhead article, youtube video, forum post and stream since Deathstalker was revealed in alpha. The only thing we can do is keep reporting the bug through the in-game report, making noise on forums, and waiting.

[grim jay]

3rd point

[normal mist]

1cp in 3 possible CP's isn't half fix xD

[grim jay]

It is because its the baseline Cp

The other cps are the talent

So id say 1 out of 2 talents are working

[normal mist]

if you ER without the 2nd talent

your charged CP can still be 3, 4 or 5 right?

if thats the case, then you have 1 in 3 chances to get the right CP to make DN work

[grim jay]

Wait thats actually a good question

I didnt test that yet

[thorn fjord]

Bring back dance

[limber lion]

That is how ER has worked in the past, yes

Or rather in Shadowlands it was 2-4 combo points

But it was changed in Dragonflight to be 3-5 for some reason

[grim jay]

If it works on either of the base ER CPs it would be kinda funny

[normal mist]

it doesnt

only on CP3

[thorn fjord]

The nerf 😔

[grim jay]

Even without the other talent?

[limber lion]

Resounding Clarity is the talent

[normal mist]

only without the other talent

[grim jay]

Unlucky

That wouldve been kinda funny

[flat sentinel]

so is it worth taking res clarity or 2x lethality?

[grim jay]

Ok so 1/3rd if er is fixed

[thorn fjord]

So if we don’t take clarity our 3rd cp will interact?

[limber lion]

Some people liked the change, I personally did not so much

I liked doing ER - Finisher at 0 cp

Now it's not possible anymore

[limber lion]

With it currently bugged, you take 2x Lethality

[thorn fjord]

It came with the gaggle of nerf that made us essentially end up playing sub lol

[normal mist]

2x leth

[limber lion]

Royal...

Too slow

[flat sentinel]

kk thanks

[limber lion]

[normal mist]

FK

[thorn fjord]

So wait clarify please one more time lol

[limber lion]

!dn

[prisma monolith]

Do I need to always be in stealth to apply a Deathstalker Mark?

• Only the initial application. Darkest Night reapplies and will be the majority of your applications
  Echoing Reprimand....
• Yes, Echoing Reprimand doesn't interact with the Mark / Darkest Night, this is one of the biggest bugs still plaguing Deathstalker as a whole
• Until it is fixed, you would want to run 2/2 Lethality and still put 1 point into Echoing Reprimand
  But the 3rd cp or something?
• Correct, there has been a newly found... bug? interaction? With the Mark and Echoing Reprimand. It requires you to have your 3rd combo point be animacharged, the Mark be applied from Darkest Night, and then consuming the animacharge with Envenom. Should all those conditions be met, it will consume a stack of the Mark as intended.
  Does Blizzard know?
• There is no way they don't know. This has been mass reported, screamed from the rooftops, highlighted in every wowhead article, youtube video, forum post and stream since Deathstalker was revealed in alpha. The only thing we can do is keep reporting the bug through the in-game report, making noise on forums, and waiting.

[limber lion]

This clarifies it

[thorn fjord]

No RC then third cp works with DS?

Ok

[storm hedge]

How do I find the link to the bug list

[thorn fjord]

Fucking weird

[limber lion]

There is no link

[thorn fjord]

Pins

[limber lion]

The screenshot in the pin is updated

[thorn fjord]

It’s a picture

[storm hedge]

Ok thanks

[thorn fjord]

Too slow 😛

[dapper cradle]

what are we enchanting weapons with at 80?

just sophic for now?

[limber lion]

I was first...

[royal lantern]

bruh, why the fuck would you enchant shit now lol

[thorn fjord]

You’re always #1 in my book

[dapper cradle]

i mean, if there is a cheap enchant option

why not?

[limber lion]

Says the guy who was literally asking about enchants like a day or two ago

[thorn fjord]

Gottemmm

[limber lion]

[royal lantern]

yeha, cus im a enchanter

lol

was about "what would be profitable to go in"

[nova aspen]

the go to enchant is authority of the depths

[dapper cradle]

all this yappin and no answers

[limber lion]

Yeh should be happy people are buying your enchants

[nova aspen]

which u cant get

yet

[limber lion]

Unlucky

[royal lantern]

you cant get the good ones yet

and the enchants you can make rn sell for 200gold with 600gold material cost

[nova aspen]

the gold sink right now to level jewelcrafting beyond 50 is about 30k per point

[limber lion]

I can afford about 2 levels then

[nova aspen]

yea crafting is pain atm

until we can get the juicy stuff

[flat sentinel]

i got my 2hr flask stuff so im happy 😄

[thorn fjord]

I’ve been sending all my mats to gbank

Like a good raider

[placid adder]

Ain’t 2hr baseline now?

[flat sentinel]

nah

need the points into alc

15points

[thorn fjord]

Sucks right now… I’ve had more fun playing uhdk

Class is bananas

[dapper cradle]

udhk is based

wish it was better than frost atm

[thorn fjord]

It is iirc

But frost is slapping too

[dapper cradle]

frost is a bit ahead in keys atm

better damage profile

[nova aspen]

it used to be 30 min baseline, now its 1 hour

[royal lantern]

jc is just insane

like, the amount of gems you need to crush is just ??????????

[nova aspen]

yea its nuts

im specializing in gemcutting cuz i know everyone needs gems

hoping to make a profit lol, but for now im staying at 50

[rugged sphinx]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[nova aspen]

1-50 leveling wasn't too terrible

one of the gem recipes that is good to level with comes from dungeons

i think starting tomorrow

[grand trail]

Plebs gonna be released tommorow

Was kinda chill leveling with nobody around

[nova aspen]

i think the launch day would've been rough if everyone had access

there were some lagspikes even without the plebs

[grand trail]

Yeah I was like hour into leveling and had no completion for quests mobs

[solid venture]

what poisons are we using ? i cannot seem to find this anywhere in the wowhead guide

[proven jasper]

Deadly/Amp

[normal mist]

Damn

[placid adder]

You talking about the blasphemies with crit?

[nova aspen]

i cant remember now it was on a JC guide video

i think it was a main stat + crit gem

[placid adder]

Yeah they drop from dungeons already they are on the ah

[nova aspen]

oh nice ok ill farm some today

[grim jay]

Profit deez

[placid adder]

It was 600k for the recipe on Friday it’s down to 100k on illidan

[nova aspen]

lmao

i got a feeling i wont get it in a few dungeons then

[grim jay]

Dont think you can really make gold with professions rn, rather flipping

[placid adder]

I did so many didn’t see it

I folded and bought it

Mainly for the skill up to get me to 100 cause I’m impatient

[ionic scarab]

Hey im switching from outlaw into assa what is the way for m+ is deathstalker better or Fatebound ?

[nova aspen]

deathstalker leads slightly in dps, and by a good margin in tankiness

and by slightly i mean like 1-3%? ish

[ionic scarab]

ah okay and what is more fun? :D

[nova aspen]

thats up for u to decide 🙂

although most ppl say deathstalker

[ionic scarab]

aight thank you :)

[tawdry flint]

what weapon enchants are you using atm since the best one aint out yet?

[royal lantern]

none

cus why would i waste gold to enchant weaponss that im gonna replace asap lol

[nova aspen]

unless the enchants were under 1k gold i wouldnt bother

personally

ive even got x2 584 adventure track daggers with crit/mast haste/mast

[dapper cradle]

do we break tier?

[nova aspen]

!tierbreak

[prisma monolith]

You will not want to break your tier until roughly 40 or 50 item levels above your tier set, at which point you should simulate yourself through top gear to get direct, accurate answers. This is highly dependant on your gear as a character so make sure you check with a sim first before swapping/deleting gear

[hexed frost]

Man subterfuge/double vanish feels so good on deathstalker lmao

I hope they never fix er bug now so I have an excuse to stay on the feel good side of tree

[slow scroll]

are there any good plater profiles for assa rogue_

?*

[delicate orbit]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[delicate orbit]

Whispyr plater ^

[nova aspen]

would u recommend it over quazi's plater?

[spice spire]

It’s preference

I like cev’s the most

[dawn viper]

"- Important Mob Tracking in mythic+ from the incredible work Quazzi has done" seems like it just builds upon

[spice spire]

Always have

[delicate orbit]

I personally use Jundies. Plater is all preference really

[spice spire]

But you just find the one you love and do it

[slow scroll]

i think cev's is the best for me, thanks a lot !!

[sage tapir]

do we not use crimson tempest in m+ single targert ?

[scenic nacelle]

3+ targets

So no

[sage tapir]

ok thx

[shy dust]

[glossy imp]

Last patch someone made a quazzi profile that had pandemic timers I wonder if that’s still around

[spice spire]

You tryna do me or

[shy dust]

I was agreeing with you!

[spice spire]

[nova aspen]

i am using quazzi's and my dots warn me when they are in pandemic

[hearty coral]

quick question guys.. best looking race for transmog horde?

[nova aspen]

undead baby

[grim jay]

belf

or female orc

[upbeat condor]

Undead or orc female

[proven jasper]

female orc goated

[tired gull]

I don’t know you could play a baby undead, that would be so fun

[upbeat condor]

Female orc looks like male human😂

[proven jasper]

yeah and they got the best models for transmog

easily

[nova aspen]

undead , baby*

[hexed frost]

Vulpera

https://tenor.com/view/furry-furry-irl-gay-furry-owo-uwu-gif-18559848

[hearty coral]

thaths furry

[nova aspen]

[cunning basin]

Nightborne

[hexed matrix]

tauren? hello?

[gray hazel]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[hearty coral]

im between belf and undead

[grim jay]

belf

[proven jasper]

Undead flips when you use finishers tho

[spice spire]

Why not void elf

[proven jasper]

[spice spire]

[upbeat condor]

Undead no question

[spice spire]

Lotta boomers in chat rn

[hearty coral]

i think undead is more lore accurate but belf looks better for xmogs so

[spice spire]

Undead rogues in the year of our lord 2024

[gray hazel]

Anyone have an updated KB tracker like notters that doenst give LUA erros?

[weary shoal]

!commands

!sim

[proven jasper]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[weary shoal]

!addon

[spice spire]

@slate crown ?

That’s my hope

(I need one now too)

[proven jasper]

Im p sure notters has been working no?

[spice spire]

It works but it has some errors at this point

[proven jasper]

Ah i haven’t noticed

[spice spire]

And notter unsubbed

[proven jasper]

Playing too much factorio

Smh

[gray hazel]

noo

his was my fave tracker of them all

[weak isle]

i have notters one

without errors

i updated it myself

[gray hazel]

what magic did you do?

[weak isle]

just fixed the lua error

which occured cus of api changes

was pretty easy fix

[slate crown]

I don't know of a kingsbane tracker

[weak isle]

u have one in our own pack

[slate crown]

My tracker for kingsbane is for the timers

No

[spice spire]

Is it because you hardly know er?

[slate crown]

I'm talking about Kingsbane damage

[weak isle]

ohh

yea mine has that

[slate crown]

DO NOT TELL ME I DON'T KNOW ABOUT

FUCK

[weak isle]

which is from Notter

[slate crown]

Yeah

So

[spice spire]

That was almost good.

[gray hazel]

i guess ill have to look up how to fix

[slate crown]

I do have a cooldown window tracker

[weak isle]

here

^^

enjoy the KB tracker

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-soiled-it-soiled-gif-5073187

[slate crown]

Pls

Pls friend

pls use wago

[weak isle]

well

its in my pack

dont have it as a solo

[slate crown]

statements remain unchanged

[weak isle]

[gray hazel]

ty!

[spice spire]

I’ve changed my statement

Don’t use wago.io

[rich swift]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/you-died-cat-comedy-funny-shaky-cat-crawling-cat-gif-21392489

[weak isle]

https://wago.io/OtohaQlq-

here

fixed it for you

^^

[slate crown]

Yay nice

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-shaking-head-fisheye-lens-gif-25374523

[raw marlin]

anyone got a macro that has mutilate in non-stealth and ambush in stealth that doesnt effect the fact it changes when it procs during combat to swap automatically?

[woeful wigeon]

/cast [mod] [form] Ambush; Mutilate

[spice surge]

Mutilate auto swaps to ambush when blindside procs

So If you just put ambush on your stealth bar and mutilate on your regular bar youre done

[raw marlin]

i dont have a stealth bar and normal bar

but it doesnt swap on my 'main bar' but it does swap automatically in combat lol

[restive tiger]

any triket lists or just get them sim them ?

trinket

[raw marlin]

this works

[woeful wigeon]

yep

[raw marlin]

tyty

[normal mist]

Wowhead has a list but it's always better to just sim

[restive tiger]

cheers il check

[viral zodiac]

can someone please explain to me, why i only want to use one non-lethal poison when i skilled dragon tempered blades and can use 2? every guide i read says poisons to use: numbing, amplifyiong and deadly poison

[normal mist]

And crippling

[cloud basin]

So is death stalkers mark supposed to not work with echoing reprimand?

[normal mist]

No one knows

[odd flax]

2p and 4p still worth over 571 ilv gear?

[normal mist]

!tierbreak

[prisma monolith]

You will not want to break your tier until roughly 40 or 50 item levels above your tier set, at which point you should simulate yourself through top gear to get direct, accurate answers. This is highly dependant on your gear as a character so make sure you check with a sim first before swapping/deleting gear

[restive tiger]

yeh having to get max cp in reprimand feels wrong

[raw marlin]

i have season 1 tier, when do i break that haha

[nova aspen]

the first quest

[normal mist]

Literally

[odd flax]

!tierbreak

[prisma monolith]

You will not want to break your tier until roughly 40 or 50 item levels above your tier set, at which point you should simulate yourself through top gear to get direct, accurate answers. This is highly dependant on your gear as a character so make sure you check with a sim first before swapping/deleting gear

[raw marlin]

haha yep, its nice when you can new gear from quest 1

my other toons dont see shit until max basically

[sage tapir]

do you spread rupture in aoe or just have it on main target

[blazing plaza]

hey the WQs give rep only once or u can do it on the alts also abd still give rep ?

[cloud basin]

Depends on the context. In m+ yeah

[dark token]

Contracts count 2x, wqs once

[cloud basin]

It spreads when you break stealth.

[blazing plaza]

what ?

sry dont understand

[dark token]

World quests are one time warband rep

But completing a world quest gives contract rep also

That rep is awarded per char

[blazing plaza]

aaa ok

[dark token]

The actual world quest is once per warvand

[blazing plaza]

so u can spam for that 5 rep

[dark token]

Ye

[blazing plaza]

ok

thx

so not worth

[dark token]

You only need 20 chars doing world quest every day

To get max rep

[spice spire]

[slate crown]

incorrect

World quests only give rep once per alt

That whole plan won't work

you can see this in the tooltip for world quests, it says the rep is one-time

[floral vale]

What about rares and weeklies

[slate crown]

good luck

oh wait is that only relying on the rep

from contract?

sweet jesus

[floral vale]

hell no i’m not doing that, just saying THE MATH IS WRONG

[normal mist]

So far what are the events like dragonbane keep, feast, etc from this new expansion?
Please mark the answer as spoiler

[floral vale]

renown 7 and chill is the move

[rustic bluff]

maybe a stupid question, but is there any reason to track amplifying poison stacks on targets?

[normal mist]

No

You don't play around them

They just happen naturally

[rustic bluff]

thanks

[normal mist]

Tell me you don't have a life without telling me you don't have a life

[thorn fjord]

What is love

Baby don’t hurt me

[normal mist]

Don't hurt me

[thorn fjord]

No more 😩

Giving sub a whirl today

Should be fun

[dark token]

yup

[waxen oyster]

How do people propose being. sweatier than rwf players

with nothing to show for it

[thorn fjord]

They have to prove it to themselves

[dark token]

also @slate crown while i have you here, do you think its theoretical possible to make a weakaura that completely hides the ! from quests that are warband completed

i dont know if addons can hide certain blizz ui elements like this

[thorn fjord]

Doesn’t handy notes do that

[dark token]

right now they are faded

so clearly blizz flagged these quests somehow already

they just arent completely hidden

[dark token]

what setting?

dont think it does

[thorn fjord]

I’d have to double check

Not on pc but you’re probably right tbh

[lusty hedge]

hey guys ım using /cast [combat] Vanish; Stealth for vanish and stealth in same button, is there way to make this spammable macro so i cant cancel it by accident ?

[slate crown]

no

the !'s are in the world

the UI elements could be hidden from the map with WA

but, the default map already has a filter for it

so use that

[dark token]

ye, thats on

[slate crown]

but

[dark token]

but the filter doesnt remove them entirely

it just changes the opacity

[slate crown]

you cannot remove things from the game world

with a WA

[dark token]

nor addon?

rip

[slate crown]

because that's not in the UI

no

[dark token]

i figured

[thorn fjord]

Dieslow giving out bad info per usual

Also referring to himself in the third person

Cringe af

Any reason to run delves this week after doing them your first time?

[gray hazel]

was still giving me LUA errors 😦

[remote turtle]

U want to lv ur companions and also get the torghast powers. ( delves powers) dor ur companions

[haughty lantern]

hi my fellow sneaki breekis. Brand new to assassin rogue here but Hekili is actually doing a fantastic job helping me with my rotation but I know there is always more to learn and improve on, so I'm here to learn about the nitty gritty that isn't always easily accessible

[remote turtle]

Well same here and tbh more than rotation in my opinion ita understand how to build the damage

[haughty lantern]

exactly. and questing vs actual dps scenario on a boss. (as i assume we're all doing a lot of questing right now)

Like i'm not spending my deathmark on a single red bar that's going to die in like 10 seconds....

[normal mist]

Okay so, straight to the point:

• Hekili is good for a really basic level for us rogues in general. After you understand the BARE MINIMUN, Hekili stops being useful.

[ripe rapids]

Is Recuperator not working? or does it just not show on details healing?

[normal mist]

probably still bugged

[remote turtle]

@haughty lantern

[normal mist]

@haughty lantern and @remote turtle The best tip i have for you guys is: Read the wowhead guide, that was written by whispyr.

!guides

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[haughty lantern]

noted. As of right now I definitely still myself "beginner" but (and i mean this with the most respect possible) how high is the skill ceiling for assassin? (I am a BM hunter main, my own skill ceiling is not that high)

I just need to know WHEN i should be jumping ship from Hekili to my own fingers

[remote turtle]

Try this stealth - ambush - garrote - rupture - bane - dice and slice - shiv - envenom 7 points x 3

[haughty lantern]

i did. As of right now I am actually doing REALLY well with assassin (it kind of feels unfair) but I am always striving to be better

[remote turtle]

Thats what am doing ( am newbie w rogue too )

[normal mist]

dont

[haughty lantern]

ok but I took Deathstalker as per the wowhead recommendation, would you not ALWAYS want to ambush out of stealth to apply the debuff?

[remote turtle]

[normal mist]

if you're new, try understanding the basics before giving advice

[lone yarrow]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[weak isle]

What?

How

Can u dm me the errors? Cus I have none

[remote turtle]

Thats what im understand from wowhead / icyveins

[normal mist]

yeah its really weird

thats not right

[haughty lantern]

so first major question, how much do we dislike versatility? I am still "BM pilled" and BM HATES vers but loves crit/haste/mast. Should I be avoiding vers at all costs? Do I just tolerate it?

[normal mist]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[west willow]

you should basically never trust icyveins

[normal mist]

also wrong

[restive tiger]

any good edis to weak auras to show deathstalkers mark then darkest night after 3 stack used ? using quazis wa pack there in there but dont show ?

[modest glen]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[loud light]

oh god it took me way too long to realize "bane" was shorthand for kingsbane

[remote turtle]

Gahaha

[loud light]

I don't think I've ever seen that one used before

[haughty lantern]

ofc i always will sim myself when it comes down to actual gear, was just wondering what gear I should be aiming for in terms of stats. Since heroics open up today, I am making my "gear shopping list" of things to grind from dungeons

[normal mist]

For rotation / openers, here's the link https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

[west willow]

go to auction house with 30k

[haughty lantern]

not to boast but i've been raiding since MoP and I know my way around how to "git gud" in raids, i am just new to assassin 🙂

[west willow]

buy peerless 564

[cunning basin]

Skill ceiling on assa is relatively high, not the most impressive thing ever but there's a lot of tiny things you can do to absolutely maximize DPS in situations, but it's pretty accessible with a very high floor and relatively low APM

[normal mist]

#assassination message

[remote turtle]

If im doing something wrong...

[haughty lantern]

i am ACTUALLY ilvl 571 right now. Very few pieces I feel actually need to be replaced. Mainly chasing trinkets and rings right now. I have been.....persistent with hunting rares for the adventure track gear.

[remote turtle]

I think my dps can be better then that

[haughty lantern]

roger roger, thank you

[subtle tundra]

Omg a hooker

[dark token]

what rares are you sweeping

like all zones or

[west willow]

heroic is 567, ah is 564, you probably wont even need to do heroics unless you really want to

[dark token]

might start this

[remote turtle]

Weird name i know

[prime isle]

do you guys think that outlaw will be better than assassination only in low lvl keys?

[normal mist]

no one knows

[dark token]

outlaw looks shite

[prime isle]

consering the time that priority targets stay alive

[cunning basin]

Didn't you hear all the strimmers say outlaw is deadge?

[dark token]

sudden demise is huge procs in low keys

[eager tendon]

My problem as a new assassin is for the re-opener. When Kingsbane / lethal mark comes back, im usually out of energy and with no tea left for the 20 sec or so

[normal mist]

you're then using tea when you shouldnt

[haughty lantern]

all zones. I got my BM hunter to 80 first (best class for any world content imo) and did the whole story + rare hunting on him. Sadly BM is really weak right now

otherwise yeah, just sweep the zones. I have ADHD so my hunter gatherer instinct is strong (i.e. i can tolerate just going back and forth and hunting little shinies or rares) so i keep myself busy as I do paths. Gather herbs, grab the little bags of stuff/wax. Grab chests.

All the 80 rares are loot once per day, AND they drop 30 of the resonance whatever, so that currency starts to add up too.

[prime isle]

i was trying to be blind for that because of my muscular memory on outlaw lol

[normal mist]

When are you using tea?

[haughty lantern]

like i said, MAINLY for trinkets and maybe rings. The one thing AH can't suuplement.

[remote turtle]

At that point i think the pull its death already for bossing i suppose u have to do some mechs before that point

[cunning basin]

But on the real nobody really knows relative strength of the specs. I will say outlaw didn't feel very good when I tried it but obviously feeling is subjective

[west willow]

darkmoon decks are sub 5000g each

[prime isle]

do we have that sequence as we had in the nordrassil patch? kingsbane+vanish+shiv+deathmatk+tea?

[west willow]

you can buy perfect stat rings with sockets on AH as well

[normal mist]

that is long gone

[cunning basin]

Sin p much feels how it did post rework. Probs will be fine in keys

[prime isle]

nice, i hated that

[haughty lantern]

ok but SURPRISE my hunter is actually an inscriptionist and i made multiple darkmoon decks before even hitting 80 on my hunter. So I already have a Vivacity on my rogue 😛

which deck is best for assassin tho? I can probably make one of those as soon as I get back home

[eager tendon]

No exact moment, but after the opener, i enter a phase when i just repply dot when they're about to expire and boast a bit of damage with envenom. And usually, it exhaust my energy. pretty quick

[haughty lantern]

ok, this is mainly to sate my own curiosity (and I know we don't have access to tier yet so this is a sort of moot question) but 2 of the tier pieces (shoulder and chest) have MASSIVE amounts of versatility. Do we prefer one slot over the other? Wowhead says get all 5 tier pieces but I dooooon't think that's right? (but what do I know, I've been assassin for less than a weekend)

[normal mist]

damn too many questions too fast

gotta type faster

[west willow]

bro is off an adderral

100%

[haughty lantern]

concerta actually 😛

[normal mist]

you should only use tea charges in shiv windows during KB, and only if tea gives you 100 energy

[normal mist]

Usually its a "it does not matter, sim you character"

[shy pecan]

Sim it and take whatever it says is better.

[haughty lantern]

makes sense. Was just curious.

[remote turtle]

Ty

U are the best

[normal mist]

Be sure to actually read the wowhead guide to understand stuff better

instead of just pressing stuff on that order because its on the image

(reading your talents is also really good)

[cunning basin]

Fan of knives in single target keeps triggering the "wrong button" response in my brain still lmao fuckin muscle memory

[normal mist]

Vicious venoms fixes that :3

[solar wyvern]

Vicious means you never press fan right?

[normal mist]

yep

[cunning basin]

I've been running it down in m+ spec, idk if that one can play vicious venoms

[haughty lantern]

Oh I got another question

Are there any cardinal sins of assassin rogue I should be aware of?

[west willow]

i would imagine assa will be 'worse' than outlaw until m+ when they have meaningful hp pools but i guess we will see

[cunning basin]

I like that talent tho so I might play it for raid for funsies

[dark token]

exsanging ur deathmark

[normal mist]

hmmm i can't remember anything huge rn

[dark token]

playing outlaw

[haughty lantern]

Yeah outlaw kinda just goes swish swish stab and everything falls over because of the total hp of stuff rn

[dark token]

not using deadly poison

[haughty lantern]

Explain please 🙏

[normal mist]

thats an old one

[cunning basin]

Sudden demise go brr in smol content

[dark token]

not talenting venemous wounds/deathmark

[normal mist]

dont mind him

[scenic plank]

i still sometimes go in fight without poisons

[normal mist]

happens

[haughty lantern]

Hekili tells at me to re poison my blades when they run out so I’ll never forget

[dark token]

im giving you historical sins also

[haughty lantern]

Oooh a history lesson. I’m all ears

[dark token]

oh yeah

[normal mist]

Overwritting a empowered garrote by a normal one

[dark token]

making sure u have 4 poisons up when you talent into DTB

i was guilty of forgetting often when switching from aoe -> st builds, or from sub->sin

till i got a better poison weakaura

[cunning basin]

Ive never done anything as silly or stupid as that haha... Ha...... Ha.....

[normal mist]

bro

the face we make once we understood what we did

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-nodding-dan-levy-david-david-rose-schitts-creek-gif-20776317

[dark token]

getting ur kingsbane parried

also a sin

[cunning basin]

It's even worse when you do it during deathmark

NOT THAT ID KNOW

[normal mist]

XDD

[cunning basin]

[cunning basin]

That's how I bricked a 25 galakrond's fall in season 3

😄

[haughty lantern]

emp garrote is when you use garrote out of stealth so it does 50% more total damage right? (still learning/memorizing all of the terminology)

[potent raven]

i dont understand the clear the witnesses talent

at all

[dark token]

fok when its up

whats there to understand

[potent raven]

how do i know when its up

[uneven plume]

Get a WA

[dark token]

make a tracker for it

[cunning basin]

It's up after you apply deathstalker's mark

[uneven plume]

And make the icon gigantic

Almost every rogue pack has it

[dark token]

heres mine

this fok icon

means press fok

[haughty lantern]

from what i understand, Clear the Witnesses makes FoK stronger overall. Makes it viable to fit into a ST rotation (sparesly) or makes it WAY stronger for AoE

[dark token]

whats this LE rupture WA

+1 cp?

[spice surge]

Bonespike

[potent raven]

ah ok

[spice surge]

Iirc

[cunning basin]

SBS?

[potent raven]

i just wasnt tracking ig

[dark token]

i guess it shows when u have bonespike available

[haughty lantern]

ye

[stone minnow]

Can you send the AOE version of this as well? Just formatted my pc.. forgot it. And also ,do you have the suggested talents for m+?

[normal mist]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

[haughty lantern]

OH so this is a question because I barely ever play melee specs

you should be BEHIND a boss whenever you can, right? because when attacking from the front, melee attacks/spells can get blocked or parried, right? (Hence making a parried kingsbane a YUGE waste of dps)

[dark token]

idk why the graphic so complicated on wowhead

[vestal narwhal]

hi guys i was main outlaw in s4 (just started wow 5 month ago) i heard that assa seems to be the best rogue spec but is assa fun with tww change ? or u see it like a broken spec but unfun ?

[dark token]

you never play without bonespike

its too good

and u never play fatebound atm

[stone minnow]

I thought fatebound was the best one rn?

[normal mist]

yes, we had quite some laughs about KBs getting parried

[dark token]

heres my simplified version

[stone minnow]

so deathstalker is to go rn?

for m+?

[dark token]

yes

[normal mist]

chill

[potent raven]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
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[normal mist]

its about 2% difference between both iirc

[stone minnow]

is it a passive difference?

or changes to a rotation completly

[normal mist]

it doesnt

[dark token]

i havent kept up to date with bugfixes and stuff but deathstalker seemed better for all content last i checked

[normal mist]

fatebound is just what we do now + hero tree fully passive

[iron carbon]

It's whispyr Afenar Edit?

[dark token]

no these are my weakauras

i edited afenar myself and stole some from LE

[haughty lantern]

so the ABCs of assassin rogue

Always
Be
Cbackstabbing

[icy girder]

so wowhead guide is wrong saying deathstalker?

[normal mist]

thats what we generally want, the boss's back. There are bosses where that's impossible

[normal mist]

Whispyr isnt wrong no

[haughty lantern]

ye.

[iron carbon]

That's what I do too, I wanted to steal the +1 for bonespikes

Ahaha

[dark token]

do we have a backstab even

[dark token]

that's from LE pack

[haughty lantern]

ok now i am curious. Do we run fatebound or deathstalker? Wowhead says Deathstalker so i've been running with that

[normal mist]

Give me a sec, ill show something curious

[haughty lantern]

GRANTED i'm having great success with assassin regardless, but I will always strive to be better

[normal mist]

whispyr added this today in order for folks to calm down

[dark token]

dont be bitter be better

[normal mist]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/talent-builds-pve-dps#raid-talent-builds

there is no set in stone answer

EVERYTHING can change with 1 tuning build

[haughty lantern]

ahhh gotcha. Nothing so definitive like BM hunter (currently dark ranger is smoking pack leader in dps 😭)

[stone minnow]

subterfurge and extra vanish is also not in the talents.. I thought these are the must ones

[normal mist]

negative

those are -5% less dps than what we have presented there

subterfurge is literally useless for us assa rogues

[stone minnow]

I thought we need subterfurge for bigger packs with indiscriminate carnage

[normal mist]

wait

[haughty lantern]

once we get Deathstalker's Mark rolling (out of a single stealth) ideally we never need to stealth again to keep it going, right?

[normal mist]

this does interact with iron wire

so you have both I.garrote and ironwire for 6 seconds

without subterfuge

[stone minnow]

so I keep spreading it

got it

[haughty lantern]

[stone minnow]

not for rupture tho, right?

[normal mist]

in theory no, you only need that 1 ambush on the opener

[normal mist]

for rupture

[haughty lantern]

subterfuge would LITERALLY just be to apply ambush/mark to things (hence why it's useless)

[normal mist]

thanks to SBS

you can literally apply 6 ruptures in 2 globals

on the opener

[stone minnow]

sorry, sbs?

[haughty lantern]

BONE SPIKES FOR EVERYONE

[normal mist]

check the rotation going down

no better

ill make a video

[stone minnow]

thanks a lot, what does sbs stand for?

[dark token]

serrated bonespike

[stone minnow]

oh ffs

[dark token]

another key ability is DN

[haughty lantern]

ohhhhh so that's why hekilli keeps telling me to open with garrote instead of ambush

[ionic scarab]

!waa

[normal mist]

are you in TWW already?

[ionic scarab]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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[normal mist]

@stone minnow

[haughty lantern]

ye 🙂 level 80, 571 ilvl

[distant monolith]

last I checked the sims weren't done but has that changed? I know tuning still ongoing just curious about current status of 3 specs

[stone minnow]

thanks a lot

[normal mist]

read your capstone (deathstalker)

[dark token]

current state is outlaw is dooming, sub is clunking, and assa is gloomin

(aka no one knows there isnt tuning/raid yet)

[haughty lantern]

ambush from stealth applies Deathstalker's Mark. This makes me think you open with ambush...

[normal mist]

correct

BUT

[dark token]

when you have DN you dont need to do that

[normal mist]

if your target died or you consumed the 3 stacks you gain DN (darkest night) buff

[stone minnow]

royal, out of curiousity - can you show me your key bindings? literally the skillbar? trying to decide which keybindigs to use.. 😛

[dark token]

you gotta not clarify what DN is

until they ask

[haughty lantern]

which lets you re-apply mark without needing ambush

[dark token]

then you deez nuts em

stop being helpful

[normal mist]

man that forces me to write even more

[normal mist]

in stealth

the random poison in 6 is because of respecs

[haughty lantern]

OK i see the discrepancy (i'm desperately trying to not just be a hekili slave and actually learn how to play the spec)

I open with Ambush to apply deathstalkers mark
Then I open with improved garrote assuming I can leep the Deathstalkers rolling?

(i've just been doing a lot of questing as assassin but obviously no like....major raiding or m+ so I am still trying to figure out the context clues for all of assassin)

[mortal crystal]

Tiriosh connoisseur 🔥

[normal mist]

you'll have a better feel for the hero talents when m0 opens and stuff lives enough time

[empty mauve]

So Whispyr's plater has all of the Quazii's important plater info in it?

[normal mist]

gotta use the slowfall 😛

[mortal crystal]

Saved me just a few hours ago, one of many times since Friday!

[flint parrot]

Is the animacharged combo point and deathstalkers mark still bugged?

[haughty lantern]

I AM SO SAD THAT THEY RETIRED THE DAGGER SET ABILITY

i never even got to use it

[hot fulcrum]

yes

[mortal crystal]

The important bit is still there!

[hot fulcrum]

yes. He said will be updated before s1

[potent raven]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[dark token]

any roleplayers know why sometimes this purple sometimes this yellow

[normal mist]

spoilers

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[dark token]

wdym

i thought you had EA

[normal mist]

negative

[dark token]

thats been in all of their content since release also

like in their showcase of zones

[haughty lantern]

^^^^

[dark token]

cause its the coolest thing in TWW

[normal mist]

:C

[haughty lantern]

i would not call the giant crystal a spoiler

unless you LITERALLY had your head burried in the sand

[normal mist]

I DID

AAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[haughty lantern]

F

[normal mist]

(i actually knew about it dw)

[rustic bluff]

its just night and day

[normal mist]

but i know barely nothing about the exapnsion

[haughty lantern]

don't worry we barely know anything about the crystal

also how does assassin feel about the 571 trinket from The Weavers? The customizeable pheromone bottle

[rotund oak]

love the hair

humans 😍

[haughty lantern]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/how-to-obtain-a-guaranteed-ilvl571-customizable-trinket-the-war-within-early-346100

this one

[dark token]

best human xmog ive seen

[rotund oak]

humans are just

the best

[haughty lantern]

very "anime protagonist" but how did they do the lean?

[rotund oak]

for everything

period

[normal mist]

narcisus

[dark token]

this is me

[normal mist]

#1262437829150113855 message

[dark token]

i dont xmog

[haughty lantern]

ohhhhh

[dark token]

cant tell u

i just wear whatever the gear looks like

[mortal crystal]

I can see my rogue in this pic and I dont like it

[haughty lantern]

the fact that you can SEE your rogue at all is the real problem

[mortal crystal]

Never paid the trainer for that silly stealth skill

[vivid crown]

hopefully not repeating the same shit... is Sudden Demise not working for others?

[potent raven]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[normal mist]

in world content its always weird

[vivid crown]

ok just making sure. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't

[prime isle]

are you guys going for deathstalker over fatebound for m+?

[normal mist]

We'll need to first check what bug fixes happen until then

[ashen nimbus]

do ppl black list wepon poison on plater so its not 4 slots just taken from them ?

[manic quartz]

yes

[dark token]

i blacklist everything except deadly

deadly shows me the other ones

and its useful to see if it falls off

[ionic scarab]

Guys do u use any macros for Assa ?

[tepid vessel]

With assassination Deathstalker, if we take the talent lingering darkness, do we get the 30% increase if the target dies or only if it expires and ends by itself?

[normal mist]

only burst macro with dm + potion + racials if you use per example orc

[runic hinge]

Even if it dies

[haughty lantern]

Can....numbing? Poison and Atrophic poison both effect a boss at the same time if our raid team has 2 rogues?

[dark token]

yes

i think atrophic even stacks

[winged dagger]

!WA

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
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[dark token]

unless they fixed that bug

[normal mist]

Yes, but i cant recall if mindnumbing does that much of a big job on bosses

[haughty lantern]

ok so it IS useful to have more than 1 rogue in a raid group?

[dark token]

yes

[haughty lantern]

ok cool

[normal mist]

but it is RARE to find 2

xD

[dark token]

new bis weap

[balmy condor]

!poison

[prisma monolith]

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

• Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
  Non-Lethals:
• Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

[shy pecan]

!dn

[prisma monolith]

Do I need to always be in stealth to apply a Deathstalker Mark?

• Only the initial application. Darkest Night reapplies and will be the majority of your applications
  Echoing Reprimand....
• Yes, Echoing Reprimand doesn't interact with the Mark / Darkest Night, this is one of the biggest bugs still plaguing Deathstalker as a whole
• Until it is fixed, you would want to run 2/2 Lethality and still put 1 point into Echoing Reprimand
  But the 3rd cp or something?
• Correct, there has been a newly found... bug? interaction? With the Mark and Echoing Reprimand. It requires you to have your 3rd combo point be animacharged, the Mark be applied from Darkest Night, and then consuming the animacharge with Envenom. Should all those conditions be met, it will consume a stack of the Mark as intended.
  Does Blizzard know?
• There is no way they don't know. This has been mass reported, screamed from the rooftops, highlighted in every wowhead article, youtube video, forum post and stream since Deathstalker was revealed in alpha. The only thing we can do is keep reporting the bug through the in-game report, making noise on forums, and waiting.

[haughty lantern]

well it should be rare to FIND any (if you get found, you should have your stealth license revoked)

it's the hitman approach: no one will notice IF THERE IS NO ONE TO NOTICE

[normal mist]

Whispyr welcome back

[gusty adder]

returning player here, so sorry :b But does anyone know what this is? Can't seem to find the name to blacklist it off plater ... 🙂

[dark token]

anyone knows if atrophic still stacks with multiple rogues

[dark token]

caustic spatter

[normal mist]

caustic spatter

[dark token]

i really suggest you dont blacklist that