#assassination

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midnight mist
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cause

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every ennemy is important

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they all leave a debuff on people that stakc and that just one shot people

balmy condor
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Every enemy is important and you’re pulling 20?

midnight mist
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ye lol

grim jay
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How do you deal with that situation as outlaw btw? PogO

midnight mist
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you dont

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you wipe

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and swap sin

balmy condor
midnight mist
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(real btw)

balmy condor
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Zac please holy shit

midnight mist
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what

balmy condor
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This is the dumbest argument I’ve ever seen you make

lone lava
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I infected Zac

midnight mist
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i dont think that one is even bad

static glacier
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are we allowed to say let god take the wheel for sin aoe gameplay instead of w/e this gar vs FoK garbage is?

grim jay
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How about we double down on the madness and interview Mr Z on that matter?

runic hinge
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I think you’d just vanish to reset your ic and send more bleeds but then you’re delaying cds so probably not even worth

grim jay
balmy condor
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You just told me 20 mobs are insta-wipe potential and you’re pulling all 20 and just praying to god that you’re able to dps them down, and you as the assa rogue hold the fate of the group in your hand because you mouseover’d 3 gcd’s

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Is that what you’re saying

haughty flicker
static glacier
storm hedge
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You still on this sht?

midnight mist
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ok let me just clarify one thing tho, i do not associate with that @lone lava person

twin ermine
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aaah, warbanks aren't purchasable through addon bag things, so my elvui bags were fucking it up lool

haughty flicker
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lmao the disclaimer

runic hinge
grim jay
cunning cloak
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whispyr aren't you glad you got off work to come argue on discord

midnight mist
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i dont wanna be on the wrong side of history here

jaunty dew
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Can I swoop in and just ignite the whole thing with a restealth debate? 😄

haughty flicker
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i respect it

static glacier
balmy condor
lone lava
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Zac dont like the heat, i do

midnight mist
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ye

storm hedge
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I mean how many times can you execute that target swapping on 9+ target perfectly without losing uptime? Like 70% of the time? That can't be worth it for 2 extra gcds lol

midnight mist
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but im also asking something here

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how much damage are these aditional garrotes

haughty flicker
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how many garrotes was it we would gain here if we did it perfectly idr

midnight mist
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cause idk

haughty flicker
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just 2 right?

unborn wharf
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are we all sisyphus?

midnight mist
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i dont play sin

lone lava
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0.1%

runic hinge
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3

lone lava
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We already debunked this

grim jay
runic hinge
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It’s 9 vs 12

midnight mist
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you just randomly mouseover

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and hope for the best

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e

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z

haughty flicker
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based

balmy condor
cunning cloak
balmy condor
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Total

storm hedge
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Then we're playing fatebound as well though 😄

midnight mist
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but lashers insta die

storm hedge
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like fate is saying if we swap randomly it's a non bled target

unborn wharf
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big chilling

lone lava
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We just disregard the 15% dmg reduction and the 6 sec silence, aint worth it brother

storm hedge
grim jay
haughty flicker
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just play aff and dot the whole pack with one button

grim jay
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Im just smart like that

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(not really)

runic hinge
rotund oak
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u dont have to press more than 4 times gar what are u ppl on

final star
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targeting the casters in your opener

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smile

runic hinge
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They’re on the 3 garrote copium

balmy condor
balmy condor
storm hedge
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I mean you might as well play outlaw if you have that fast fingers

grim jay
midnight mist
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i dont play sin

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but ye if you find a log from casual or somthing we have better pulls

final star
balmy condor
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I don’t have a problem with that

runic hinge
grim jay
static glacier
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@lone lava in good faith, what's your endgoal / argument? that it's a dps loss to not always gar a new target? real talk, have you played sin in m+ since the rework in 10.2?

buoyant pewter
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this is so entertaining

desert cove
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guys just stop engaging with them

storm hedge
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The sht just dies before first bleeds are over anyways

static glacier
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let the guy speak his truth

desert cove
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it's pretty clear that they are just arguing in bad faith

runic hinge
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I mean he did get an answer with math and then called it pre school level so

hexed frost
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I'm gonna just spam garrote inside IC on the same target and spread it as much as possible. (Atleast on some packs though)

Life's already complicated enough to min max this shit bruh deadge

lone lava
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@static glacier Am a multi 2300+ rating player who just need some better insight

rotund oak
pliant coyote
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Is there not a Sim that can be run?

grim jay
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No offense

midnight mist
# balmy condor I mean name a pull I’ll go find it

the dangerous pull i was talking about where every mob matters would be 1st pull stonevault, i doubt you will easely find groups that pull everything tho

Nw can also be a good example where you only have 4 very important mobs, but i would argue here that if you dont get your garotte onto them you are trollnig, but different use case here, not about overall damage but prio on multiple targets damage

desert cove
storm hedge
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Is he flexing 2300 when my casual ass has 2600?

cunning cloak
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i'm assuming he means pvp?

grim jay
desert cove
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yeah but that can't be b/c his argument is about pve

balmy condor
lone lava
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You guys are just taking the troll bait too easy

balmy condor
desert cove
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wow what a shocker the random is arguing in bad faith

balmy condor
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Guys he’s just trolling!

unborn wharf
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Find biggest health minion ✅ (Not necessarily even the priority kill target)
Target LOCKED IN ✅
IC Spread ✅
BLAST HIM ✅
Do NOT targetswap/mouseover/setfocus for kicks ✅
Tab target nation 😎

balmy condor
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Everything better

grim jay
storm hedge
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Whispyr what do you think Fatebound needs to be better? Is there some feasable change that could still be done

midnight mist
balmy condor
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He was just baiting on purpose the whole time

runic hinge
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HAHA GUYS I GOT YOU I WAS JUST PRETENDING TO BE STUPID

queen egret
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@lone lava if its any help, i know @keen mantle uses a mouse over for gar and rup so he can target mobs without the debuff

haughty flicker
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make argument
lose argument
hehe get trolled

grim jay
storm hedge
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Or is it just doomed to be boring passive hero talent tree

lone lava
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Nah, it shifted when you died on the 0.1% rock

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with the preschool math

balmy condor
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I didn’t die on any rock

desert cove
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lmao

storm hedge
final star
haughty flicker
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based

desert cove
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yeah you show us your math, if you're so good at it

lone lava
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You died and got CR 3 times

balmy condor
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????

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What is bro yapping about

storm hedge
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I want to see what the non preschool math looks like

royal iron
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
grim jay
balmy condor
grim jay
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It just didnt reach you yet

desert cove
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yeah I'm expecting like some integrals, maybe some fundamental theorem of calculus

storm hedge
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I want to see you doing derivatives and integrals and sht

desert cove
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if we're feeling spicy maybe even some matrix math

balmy condor
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I did a math degree in university, if I’m preschool level then bro must be like Terrance Tao or something

midnight mist
storm hedge
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Doing actual proofs and stuff like Let N be dmg of garrote and math like that

balmy condor
desert cove
mild trench
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Is tabbing between every garr in the opener troll? Just kinda hoping you tab to a target without the debuff doesn't hurt, does it?

desert cove
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just like a generalized view

rotund oak
balmy condor
pliant coyote
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Mouseovers are for nerds, tab target is for cool kids

cunning cloak
hoary remnant
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@balmy condor great video ty. I have a question about fatebound chaining envenom. Could it be that, because of sanguine blades and as you showed its pretty much the same pooling rules like we have rn in s3/4?

mild trench
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I don't play sin at all really, just curious

queen egret
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The assumption that garrote overall damage remains at 10% even if we start min maxing the casts is at fault. It would likely increase

lone lava
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@grim jay Idk what exactly am wrong about, my statement was its more efficient overall to DoT spread with fresh target tracking, it evolved into this bullshit conversation

desert cove
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you're finished

lone lava
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dammit

balmy condor
storm hedge
desert cove
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ah that's what I thought it was about

balmy condor
desert cove
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it's funny how even the simplest of expressions can be so complex when you try to prove why they work

rotund oak
keen mantle
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#showtooltip Rupture
/cast [@mouseover,harm,exists,nodead][] Rupture

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i use this

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this is normal button but once you mouseover mouseover is prioritized

runic hinge
grim jay
queen egret
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I mean look casual does it - he spreads to targets without rupture to get one more target dotted

desert cove
balmy condor
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That’s already accounted for

desert cove
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I'm really looking forward to the software dev class b/c I've heard great things about the prof

keen mantle
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i use this script

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all borders means targets not ruptured

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if ruptured border removed

queen egret
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Well then u don’t know why u are arguing ? He does what that person asked

static glacier
# lone lava <@579112108839403525> Am a multi 2300+ rating player who just need some better i...

I think you already know the answer then, in an ideal world we do spread gar on new targets especially in mass aoe, realistically there's multiple downsides that you have to contend with:

  1. You can lose globals finding the right target to gar then finding the right target to spatter > making sure it's the target you have deathstalker's mark on if that's the case.
  2. You can end up committing shadowstep to avoid losing melee uptime, this is more noticeable now acro doesn't exist.
  3. As previously stated it doesn't matter, a lot of non prio lower hp mobs in a pack die to incidental aoe like spatter and other flurry type effects / automatic cleave. You Garotting the mob won't have a noticeable difference in the TTK of the pack.
  4. DPS is not the limiter to dungeon timer or completion that you think it is, what we're discussing here genuinely is so immensely miniscule compared to stuff like using a global for non damage ever or waiting until tank groups mobs to dps.
  5. If doing this makes you miss a kick / stop on a mob because you're hyper fixated on reacting to Gar within a second and finding a mob without gar by having glowing plater you're griefing yourself and your team.

If this were a raidfight with stationary, consistently spawning mobs that are all within range of each other and nothing else was going on you could try to chase this dream.
In reality this shit isn't work the mental bandwidth you're using. for real.

balmy condor
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I’m not arguing that it’s a gain, I’m arguing that it’s minimal in the grand scheme of things

haughty flicker
final star
queen egret
rotund oak
grim jay
balmy condor
desert cove
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yeah I cleared all of my math credits when I was in community college

keen mantle
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ye with 5 targets you get 20% agi its whatever

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just a slight minmax

desert cove
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all I have left are major classes at upper div level

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should graduate by fall of next year

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need to find and internship in between though

hoary remnant
rotund oak
queen egret
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Is it more of a gain to do it with rupture or same thing?

desert cove
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yeah I'll def take like, 25 units of physics just so I can get up to that level

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more than 25 probably, I just through out a number kewk

balmy condor
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The only thing I’ve ever argued is that the dps loss of just slamming the same target isn’t a huge loss and you can do it if it’s easier for you, because the risk of making a mistake outweighs any incredibly minor benefit from tabbing optimally

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And I got slapped on that by some troll mfer

queen egret
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😂

balmy condor
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I’m literally just giving it as an option if you would like to do it

fallen arch
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Is it me or is Luxthos not showing energy and combo points anymore?

grim jay
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@lone lava good example btw is that at some point it was theoretically the best option to ambush all the time except in the deathmark kb windows, where you would want to mutilate for a minor gain, but realistically it wasnt worth the extra effort and noone did that

fallen arch
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Just updated the packm and its gone

fallen arch
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
narrow siren
desert cove
hoary remnant
desert cove
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you need to be more ruthless

rotund oak
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bro was memeing hard

balmy condor
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Catering to casuals for real

desert cove
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fr fr

balmy condor
grim jay
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Not doing what is expected from a TC smh my head

runic hinge
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I wish I was a multi 2300 player

grim jay
limber lion
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Interesting read to start the day

desert cove
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mfw saying that a super risky, super niche minor dps increase is not a good idea = catering to casuals

royal lantern
grim jay
desert cove
haughty flicker
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oh it was definitely interesting

desert cove
balmy condor
desert cove
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dude fr

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when I saw your video of raid testing with fatebound I just thought

limber lion
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Hiya bla

desert cove
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"Man this guy is such a casual, I really expected better from a rogue theory-crafter"

haughty flicker
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fuck im leaving that as a comment on the next video

hexed frost
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How someone thinks that not minmaxxing = filthy casul

balmy condor
hexed frost
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Now I look gay

static glacier
limber lion
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Checkmate

desert cove
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I think now we need a "!casual" copy pasta

grim jay
desert cove
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add it to the list whispyr

limber lion
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I hate mythic+ rankings

hexed frost
balmy condor
limber lion
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If someone is willing to sit in LFG for 13 hours a day, then go at it

balmy condor
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grass touching is now illegal

desert cove
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unless you're not lonely like me and have people to do keys with

hexed frost
grim jay
desert cove
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there are people in my guild that I can run with, but some of them are either just bad at m+ or treat every dungeon like a MDI dungeon and make me want to commit unalive

runic hinge
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Imma push high on m+ this season just so I can call people stupid and feel superior

balmy condor
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all this m+ discussion just for assa rogue to not be meta and everyone to sit in here and bitch that they can't get into groups

royal lantern
# limber lion I hate mythic+ rankings

m+ Rankings at this point really feel like the "monkey on a typewriter" thing

instead of writing Shakespeare,its just "spamm keys for 16hours a day, fail 99% of them, 1 is timed, number goes up and you are hailed as the new Jesus of the class"

hexed frost
desert cove
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NO

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you're joking

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please tell me

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this is not real life

rotund oak
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it is

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im afraid

desert cove
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have these people never heard of

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being in a raiding guild?

balmy condor
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why raid

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when you can sit in m+ queue

static glacier
balmy condor
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for an additional 6 hours a week

desert cove
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you're so right

stuck knoll
grim jay
hexed frost
static glacier
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viola, you look like you're having a life. getting a wage and a prime excuse to not raid n keys

balmy condor
stuck knoll
rotund oak
stuck knoll
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Ye

rotund oak
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ok that changes things

desert cove
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can't wait to level as outlaw and then never touch the spec again until it gets changes btw

rotund oak
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im so gonna troll him ingame he wont even know it

desert cove
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love that they made outlaw a leveling spec, rogue really has something for everyone now

dark token
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Sin is good at leveling

dark token
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What

desert cove
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I don't like sin for leveling

dark token
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Sin is better than outlaw at low lvls by a lot also

balmy condor
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based outlaw use case has been discovered, zac in shambles

hardy dagger
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Just play subYEP

dark token
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Just see mop remix

desert cove
runic hinge
desert cove
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outlaw is only for leveling

limber lion
unborn wharf
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bro leveling as an outlaw does NOT hit u lose ADR when ur flying and u get no restless blades cause everything dies instantly

desert cove
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thank you Tony

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much appreciated

unborn wharf
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then again GRAPPLE

midnight mist
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bro outlaw is probably the worse leveling spec now

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adr doesnt even do anything until you have your 20% haste

hexed frost
# desert cove being in a raiding guild?

We raided together in shadowlands, but then we got married. His wife doesn't let him play at night when the guild raids.

My wife doesn't mind if I take her out to eat someplace nice on saturdays kekdog

unborn wharf
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AWARE

limber lion
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Tony said the word and now it summoned Zac

dark token
haughty flicker
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acro acro acro

dark token
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People stick in 2016

midnight mist
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crackshot is so bugged in outdoor because you cant restealth with subterfuge up

desert cove
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yeah but surely subterfuge bugs get fixed

midnight mist
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grapple is bugged in outdoor content it will fail 80% of the times

desert cove
midnight mist
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outlaw has no energy without adr

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especially at low level

dark token
runic hinge
wooden jasper
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
midnight mist
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and you wont maintain adr in open world

midnight mist
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outlaw prolly the worse spec to level with in the entire game omegalul

grim jay
haughty flicker
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no sin rogue has ever been invited to a key high enough to do neltharus first pull

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unlucky

midnight mist
balmy condor
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I looked up the highest ranking assa log for first pull neltharus, it's a +20

haughty flicker
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i knew it

balmy condor
unborn wharf
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NAHHH

balmy condor
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what is this

midnight mist
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i see

rotund oak
desert cove
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ah yes

dark token
desert cove
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shiv at the end of KB

haughty flicker
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at least he used evasion

desert cove
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really get that juicy damage

dark token
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He always does random shit

runic hinge
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What

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Vanish into mut is insane tech

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I’m pulling that one out

dark token
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Definition of m+ climbing by spamming 20 keys a day until you succeed

unborn wharf
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enlightened individuals use cooldowns on sub then swap to sin and use those cooldowns

grim jay
desert cove
shrewd night
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Ronkles when he throws shade while Im away

balmy condor
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this guy has exactly 1 garrote cast in the first 2 minutes of the key

hexed frost
midnight mist
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I dont really need an answer anyway

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if i ever play sin i will do it

shrewd night
midnight mist
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i will do anything for 0.1% dps anywya you know me

balmy condor
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his sudden demise did more damage first pull than his garrote did huh

runic hinge
stuck knoll
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Nerf SD

midnight mist
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been maining sin since cata

balmy condor
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imagine if he mouseovered though

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okay maybe korea rogue will be a winner

grim jay
hexed frost
limber lion
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Slam that Garry

grim jay
runic hinge
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Garret one garret two garret three

balmy condor
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okay korea rogue is COOKING

haughty flicker
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fuck Garry

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always hated that guy

fallen arch
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
storm hedge
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wait sudden demise in +20?

balmy condor
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and he's target swapping

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kinda...

runic hinge
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He’s doing the thing I do where you press tab and press garrote either way and just hope it’s fresh

hexed frost
balmy condor
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gar doing 16% on this pull

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I mean I guess better

midnight mist
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whisparus, i told you its ok

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I didnt really need an answer

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sin is getting nerfed week 1

balmy condor
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I needed an answer

midnight mist
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if its for you then good

hexed frost
dark token
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Ur making me check my prepatch logs then I found this gem

balmy condor
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did you know that his fok did 2% dps

midnight mist
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im happy you get to have fun

grim jay
dark token
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My only job is smolderon

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Log in, kill it, log out

slow echo
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Is that Zac the honorary shadowblade

haughty flicker
dark token
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Prepatch is sick Pog

haughty flicker
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prepatch 100

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poggers

grim jay
midnight mist
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yes helo

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its me

grim jay
dark token
slow echo
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Zac once reviewed my outlaw logs, he's a shadowblade in my book

midnight mist
slow echo
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Mini-fuu

grim jay
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Best thing is

midnight mist
grim jay
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If you watch the Video

midnight mist
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@balmy condor

grim jay
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He exsanguinates the target with only rupture and no garrote

midnight mist
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im getting death treaths by a league player help

balmy condor
runic hinge
unborn wharf
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and heal the world

dark token
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I'm using it for intended purpose

midnight mist
dark token
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Owait you baitPing me

grim jay
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Kinda looks like you wanted to neck zac

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Ngl

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Dont think you can get out of this

midnight mist
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🪝🪝🪝🪝🪝

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guys

storm hedge
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Can we discuss the Deathstalker ST FoK though? Is it really a thing? I mean Whispyr's guide says it's a thing so it must be a thing but. Can it not be?

midnight mist
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im baiting

runic hinge
grim jay
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Fok is a cool spell

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No new keybind

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Some nuance

finite yarrow
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He also said it doesn't have to be a thing if you take the other talent

balmy condor
storm hedge
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And how big a loss is that?

balmy condor
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it's 1% better

storm hedge
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Vicious venom is 1% better?

balmy condor
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correct

devout mist
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not picking sanguine is the best thing to happen to assa

storm hedge
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Uff

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Thank god and whispyr for this

marble hemlock
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youre welcome

haughty flicker
grim jay
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Hu

balmy condor
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there's still technically reasons to use sanguine, vicious venoms is pure single target slam

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in any cleave situation sanguine would win

devout mist
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ill take the dmg loss kekw

grim jay
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Idk sanguine has no effect

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Why do people hate on it

devout mist
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its a passive that does nothing half the time and chews your energy regen

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thats my take

haughty flicker
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because it reminds them of exsanguinate

devout mist
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i dont like it

haughty flicker
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and some hate never dies

marble hemlock
grim jay
haughty flicker
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i didnt play with exsang i have no opinion

little cipher
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Guys how fun would you say the spec is ? For someone that's new to rogues ? From 1-5?

grim jay
haughty flicker
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i just know the hatred some had for it

devout mist
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fun is relative, some ppl choose to play aug

grim jay
marble hemlock
haughty flicker
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i think aug in raid would be fun

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to plan yeah

devout mist
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oh ye i also consider spreadsheets part of the fun gameplay

haughty flicker
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idk about pugging keys with it tho

marble hemlock
stuck knoll
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That’s not even meant sarcastically eithrr

storm hedge
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I like sanguine blades, but if feels weird that we want to be under 50% with it. I understand why but still feels weird

devout mist
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Mallow_lewd_drool ah that office package

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hit me with MC Access in wow pls

marble hemlock
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i think the way it is now, its actually good

finite yarrow
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I remember my 1 pvp match with exsang popping the healer insta, fun time

devout mist
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turn the chat into MC word

marble hemlock
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having sanguine blades mostly be an energy drainer in multitarget

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with some niche uses in st during CDs/BL

wooden jasper
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Does the Whispyr plater include Quazii's plater?

marble hemlock
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but still playing for uptime first and foremost

grim jay
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Not entirely sure if I remember it right

wooden jasper
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ah ok

royal lantern
devout mist
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1-2, the rest copy paste

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the real excel simulator

wooden jasper
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really loved quazii's plater for listing all the mobs that have casts etc, but also want to try use the wispyr plater

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yolo

balmy condor
grim jay
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Think cevs has highlighted mobs with important casts in a color, mobs with frontals in a different color etc. I usually only use Whispyrs with adjusted space between nameplates

buoyant pewter
#

guys, im looking to the talent builds rn, is echoing reprimand mandatory ? i cant press this shit

limber lion
#

Yuh the coloring on mine hasn't been updated though. So it works for the dungeons in the past but not the new ones.

wooden jasper
grim jay
storm hedge
limber lion
#

And macro it if you're giga lazy

balmy condor
#

pandering to skill issued casuals

old cliff
grim jay
#

That will be a new meme

#

Forever to be part of this channel

balmy condor
#

it's a good meme

marble hemlock
buoyant pewter
#

CB macro on envenom i assume

balmy condor
#

ye

hazy onyx
#

Where can we dl the Whispyr Plater profile 🙂

marble hemlock
#

but it aint that difficult to run a log query through wowanalyzer to get a snapshot idea of which classes to buff

balmy condor
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
limber lion
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
#

right there

#

cev slow

#

old

#

bald

limber lion
#

Mobile gg

fallen arch
#

My Luxthos now looks like this, can anyone help me resolve this?

balmy condor
#

luxthos I guess

grim jay
#

@limber lion cev, you as a classy fashinonable person, what do you think of beige chinos with a dark great shirt and cognac brown leather sneakers

stuck knoll
#

Wait

stuck knoll
#

Cognac brown leather sneakers?

grim jay
#

/wa and click the bar you wanna move

storm hedge
#

I just want to say Whispyr how much I appreciate what you're doing for the community. The guides are great and you still answer all of the questions we dumb people ask even though all of them are answered in the guide.

grim jay
stuck knoll
#

Okay nvm

stuck knoll
#

Idk what I was picturing but those are super normal

gusty kestrel
#

how can i help

grim jay
marble hemlock
#

and hate on exsang

grim jay
#

(dont hate on exsang, tell seli how great it was in legion)

gusty kestrel
marble hemlock
#

exsang was stinky

gusty kestrel
#

how could i tell him that it was great

#

when i never touched it myself

marble hemlock
#

yes

#

alacrity supremacy

unborn wharf
#

is echoing reprimand not triggering deathstalker's mark (at 3-4)/ darkest night considered a bug or just a crappy QoL thing at this point?

balmy condor
#

bug

grim jay
#

Am I alone in the exsang enjoyer club feelscryman

balmy condor
#

yes

#

exsang sucked shit

marble hemlock
#

there was @jovial kite

balmy condor
#

good riddance

marble hemlock
#

he was the exsang cult leader

grim jay
gusty kestrel
#

whispyr is in the improved sap club

balmy condor
#

in everything

unborn wharf
#

then surely when the bug fixes come out at expansion launch they will make echoing feel awesome to play with guys 🙏

grim jay
fallen arch
unborn wharf
#

and if not SURELY heroic week we would not be let down 🙏

marble hemlock
#

sapped cows cant say moo

bronze pike
#

Exsang could have been great

#

But yall gave up on it :(((

marble hemlock
#

no it couldnt

grim jay
limber lion
bronze pike
#

Would something without hope could have a icon for this

limber lion
#

Something like this

#

With darker boots

marble hemlock
#

get a brown watch or belt to match the shoes and youre golden

bronze pike
grim jay
marble hemlock
bronze pike
#

Look at that

royal lantern
#

belt+shoes combo is a classic, yeha

bronze pike
#

Two icons

#

Bis ability

limber lion
#

What kind of a shirt are we talking about? Just a normal button up?

#

Oxford?

bronze pike
grim jay
bronze pike
#

Three

stuck knoll
#

An oxiford

limber lion
#

Fuck what me or anyone else says

grim jay
upper atlas
limber lion
storm hedge
#

@balmy condor just noticed in the wowhead guide in talent builds section for Raid ST the build doesn't have vicious venoms and as you said few minutes ago VV is better. The cheat sheat talent build does have VV though. Not sure about the imports can't check those rn.

limber lion
#

I'm waiting for the fall season, it's my fav season fashion-wise

limber lion
#

Get to wear overcoats and jackets and whatnot

balmy condor
#

Talent versioning might’ve gotten fucked

stuck knoll
balmy condor
storm hedge
#

I'm so sorry

balmy condor
#

That’s a problem for tomorrow whispyr

grim jay
balmy condor
#

I’m all snuggled in my bed, comfy in my shit

upper atlas
#

Are there any oils or stuff like that to apply as consumable? I believe I've seen some on the beta

balmy condor
#

Whetstone

grim jay
late surge
limber lion
grim jay
stuck knoll
#

WAIT THATS SO MUCH FUNNIER

limber lion
#

A darker brown goes hard with navy details

grim jay
#

Animalic one might say

grim jay
bronze pike
#

@balmy condor

#

@stuck knoll

grim jay
#

Tiktok sucks so bad ngl

bronze pike
#

I didn’t reply to davyn :( but I thought about this tiktok instantly

#

When u said that

grim jay
#

How is it legal to require an account to watch that

limber lion
bronze pike
#

That’s ass

late surge
#

I can watch it without an account

grim jay
late surge
#

sounds like a skill issue @grim jay kekw

#

pc

grim jay
#

Ye rip

stuck knoll
#

Doesn’t work for me either on phone

grim jay
bronze pike
#

Rip

#

Maybe there’s YouTube version

late surge
#

but yeah tiktok on phone is so ass

limber lion
#

I mean you just click the link

#

The embed does not work ever

#

But the link does

stuck knoll
#

Nah when I click the link I can’t play the video

limber lion
#

Saying that, I regret opening that

stuck knoll
#

It just takes me to the app store

limber lion
#

Welp

grim jay
limber lion
#

Went straight to the tikkytokkies for me

#

I have had similar issues with the app store in the past though

#

I get whatchu mean

bronze pike
limber lion
#

Supet annoying

stuck knoll
#

Also ama just called a random person on discord

stuck knoll
#

Been a while since that happened

bronze pike
#

Ty koffin

stuck knoll
bronze pike
#

I was scrolling and found some weirdddd lighting McQueen stuff

stuck knoll
#

I didn’t have a single doubt in my head

grim jay
#

Same

stuck knoll
#

The only thought was “damn he found that fast I feel like I can never find tiktoks on youtube”

#

YES SELI IT IS

bronze pike
#

Nvm

#

Fuck u koffin

shrewd night
stuck knoll
#

I was up til like 4:30 finishing my dissertation and then woke up to somebody grinding a sewage pipe outside at 8

grim jay
#

Bro just casually rickrolled atleast 4 people

stuck knoll
#

My brain is like 30% operational

#

And it didn’t go so well at 100%

marble hemlock
#

i actually remembered the URL

#

so i knew what it was

grim jay
stuck knoll
marble hemlock
#

it has 3 Ws and xqc at the end

#

(not in that order, but ya know)

stuck knoll
#

It’s like that meme of the guy who learned every rickroll url

#

So he could never get caught

bronze pike
#

Shorts>tiktok for mobile apparently

fallen arch
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
stuck knoll
#

There is no way you fell for it a second time

grim jay
south lava
#

Is server gonna be down tonight?

bronze pike
#

I’ve trusted u

bronze pike
#

And u betrayed me a second time

shrewd night
#

Yeah ronkles, how dare u

stuck knoll
#

ME?!?!?!

bronze pike
#

I’ve confused the purple names

#

I’m going to bed

shrewd night
#

It was ronkles all along

bronze pike
#

I’m clearly to sleep deprived

shrewd night
bronze pike
#

Why RONKLES

#

I trusted u

#

Mf

haughty flicker
#

tinkles

stuck knoll
#

Koffing, Gaslamper extraordinaire strikes again

stuck knoll
shrewd night
#

Didnt know you knew ret rogue for that long, thats kinda based

stuck knoll
#

Stop trying Shiennar I am immune to your gaslamp powers

shrewd night
#

wtf, Im trying to hype up the homies, call them cute and let them know I appreciate them, and you hit me with that? Are you trying to make me feel bad on purpose?

balmy condor
#

Roll a d20 saving throw for will

#

Anything under 16 and I deal physic damage

grim jay
balmy condor
#

That’s it

stuck knoll
#

I got 17

balmy condor
#

You’re going in the death note

balmy condor
royal lantern
stuck knoll
grim jay
shrewd night
#

Thats not true

royal lantern
#

relatable

grim jay
#

End the suffering

haughty flicker
grim jay
balmy condor
limber lion
rotund oak
grim jay
#

Theres no point in going on anymore

balmy condor
#

Damn

indigo mulch
grim jay
#

Just with some thicker glasses

rotund oak
#

truth is i need them

grim jay
#

Id imagine, I dont know any person beyond the mark of 100y that doesnt wear glasses

rotund oak
#

laughed so hard

grim jay
#

I really dont

#

But the oldest person I know is my grandma at 95

grim jay
#

Those yellow ones

#

There was some League pro that had those

#

Cant remember the name anymore

earnest remnant
#

gunnar?

grim jay
rotund oak
#

although it looks fun got no time

grim jay
rotund oak
grim jay
#

Happens to the best ngl

rotund oak
#

well if u remove the hair and add some muscle and more beard and some white hair here and there..

#

😅

deft nest
#

Hi guys, I just comeback after some time to wow and i really like the new assassination rogue talents and have a question about one skill "deathmark" how exactly this dots works.. I mean to use it correctly I have to use it after my opener with garotte and rupture then deathmark and it works or first I nees use a deathmark skill and then it works? Or maybe I have to do the garotte, rupture then deathmark and again same opener with bleeding because at my dmg meter I can see two same dots but with different columns if I do double garotte and rupture but with deathmark between them...

grim jay
#

It just copies whats on the target at any given time

#

Dynamically

#

It copies whats on the target, copies what you apply to the target over the duration

#

And if something drops during it, it drops on the DM copy aswell

deft nest
#

Oh.. so its just that Simple dead

#

I thught that maybe I have to do the exactly same opener but with deathmark bcs its just make it double same dot

grim jay
#

Yes it is. You just wanna make sure your stuff is running before you use it either way so you dont waste ticks

rotund oak
sharp viper
#

it duplicates garrote, rupture, internal bleeding and weapon poisons on the target*

deft nest
rotund oak
#

just not kingsbane

deft nest
#

Claro, thanks guys

stuck knoll
rotund oak
#

weird schedule

stuck knoll
#

It can just be a frustrating game is why I said

twin sparrow
#

best poisons?

stuck knoll
#

It has high highs but also really tilting lows

stuck knoll
rotund oak
#

i dont mind man,ive got like 50k+ arena games under my belt

stuck knoll
rotund oak
#

whatever it is i can handle

stuck knoll
#

I forgot what were even the poison options and so just googled assassination poisons

#

Forgot to add wow to it so I’m on a list now probably

#

I just remember amp deadly

#

Idek what other lethal poisons there are

rotund oak
#

those can be transfered to live servers now?

#

werent those rly high stat value

royal lantern
#

well, instant i gues

stuck knoll
#

Instant is the one I always forget

royal lantern
#

the poison for the lesser specs

marble hemlock
stuck knoll
#

Pvper detected

marble hemlock
#

havent played pvp seriously since early cata

steel ridge
rotund oak
#

scared seli is scared

marble hemlock
#

still got my legion elite pvp set dw

rotund oak
#

i still got my elite from cata wdym,thats nothing

#

u ride a rank 1 mount

#

and u dont pvp anymore

#

get real grandpa

#

in general ye,it is considered a good class for m+

manic quartz
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
pliant coyote
#

Still rocking the swift netherdrake

fickle girder
#

Haven't played in years, are pre raid bis lists still a thing?

spice surge
#

No

fickle girder
#

Bet bet. Do we have to rely on professions to get items now for progress? Sorry about the dumb questions keknervous

royal lantern
#

no

spice surge
#

Not really

fickle girder
#

Aight cool, so basically get what we can from m0 and hc and vault (possibly delve and wqs too) before mythic drops

gusty mirage
#

Why would you say they’re dumb questions? You just came back from a long ass break, I’d say those are completely normal questions to have

#

Don’t call yourself dumb

shrewd night
fickle girder
gusty mirage
fickle girder
royal lantern
#

we all appreciate oxi dracthyr_love

kind forge
#

oxi woke up really cute again today dracthyr_love

gusty mirage
#

Actual footage of me getting ready for work

#

I have so many gorilla/monkey gifs favorited KEKL

earnest remnant
#

same but different animal

fickle girder
#

Same with raccoons keknervous

earnest remnant
kind forge
fickle girder
forest nacelle
#

for deathstalker, to apply mark the only way to do this is with ambush right?

spice surge
#

Initially yes, but then the capstone does it

forest nacelle
#

hmmmm ok

#

what would happen if i don't use ambush at the start, everything is messed up im guessing xD?

spice surge
#

Well you wouldnt have any marks

earnest remnant
#

then your only savior is Vanish

kind forge
#

well you will not have any marks

spice surge
#

Aka close to no value from your hero talent

forest nacelle
kind forge
#

holy im slow as shit today Oldge

forest nacelle
#

ty

kind forge
earnest remnant
#

tryan is just excited to play the best spec once again

#

(sub rogue)

forest nacelle
#

for fatebound, wouldn't ER be better? becouse of the 5+ CP requirement? for hand of fate?

#

or does it not apply?

spice surge
#

Theres a talent in fatebound that makes cold blood better

forest nacelle
#

oh

#

cool

#

ohhh i seee it

#

cool

stuck knoll
royal lantern
#

week 5

#

after 2 weeks of mythic

earnest remnant
#

to get good at it

stuck knoll
#

Dw rogue is gonna be sub til the game really comes out

#

Gotta get used to BP on ST

pliant coyote
#

sub ass out rogues, hmmmm

safe kernel
#

talking about races for m+, wich class u think is better Nelfs with the meld or Dwarf extra crit + plus bleed dispells.?

clever sapphire
#

i was away for an hour, how much did you guys type holy shit

pliant coyote
#

Cant play, can only talk shit

midnight atlas
#

i just mute every discord server im in tbh. i only check when i want to kekdog

clever sapphire
#

nelf is a copium about restealths mattering

#

bleed dispell is just massive

safe kernel
#

i think the same xD cant decide

spice surge
#

Nelf, dwarf and orc are all fine options

#

Nelf is useful to avoid casts as well

royal lantern
#

🦊

clever sapphire
magic juniper
#

sneaky moo-cow here

nova aspen
#

undead!

pliant coyote
#

Im a highmountain Tauren

clever sapphire
#

im not pushing keys high enough for me to care about racials

#

also fear dispell on mists first boss

#

is all im saying

pliant coyote
#

Dark Iron dwarf is probably best

clever sapphire
#

what about the new horde dwarf

#

THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A MURLOC

magic juniper
#

Gems are outrageous

safe kernel
clever sapphire
#

gems?

#

is there already a meme with them im not getting

magic juniper
#

Gems hold their edge.

nova aspen
#

speaking of gems, i think im going JC mining

slim hamlet
clever sapphire
#

ye i wont be reading that

#

i will just read pins

#

and like last 20 messages

lapis lantern
#

is assa / rogue to bugged to play right now? : P i wanna go hard on m+ this season

#

and im thinking of starting with another class before leveling my rog

spice surge
#

Assa is mostly fine in terms of bugs

#

Ye the list in the pin might seem long, but most of them (outside of deathstalker mark+er interaction) doesnt have much impact

#

Compared to sub and outlaw its very minor

feral mason
#

infinite coup incident

stuck knoll
#

Oopsie all coup

zenith prairie
#

is there a target breakpoint to start fok?

clever sapphire
#

3+

static glacier
zenith prairie
#

I just meant for starting a pull if you ahve clear then you use single target right

#

thanks

static glacier
verbal blaze
#

do people not play tauren in M+ much anymore?

normal mist
#

only if they really like being one i guess

brisk plank
#

Does ambush apply caustic splatter when it procs?

#

Via blindside

clever sapphire
#

yes

brisk plank
#

And does blindside proc replace mutilate with ambush on action bar?

clever sapphire
#

yes

drowsy light
#

o/ guys dose anyone have a plater to know wich mob have a higer live? so i can know easly who its the main target?

brisk plank
knotty vale
#

Sin spec the way to go for M+ and Raid?

clever sapphire
#

ask the tuning team

#

in 3-4 weeks

nova aspen
#

actually its more like 3 weeks now

frigid pilot
#

What’s the best spec to level as rogue?

digital venture
#

Hey guys.
Recently had to change to a worse PC and in order to keep the game running smooth I had to change my UI and cut back on some UI elements. One of the most memory eating interfaces are WA packs. Do you guys have any recommendation on one for assassination that is lightweight? Does not need to be a all in one kinda thing, just assassination since I'm a one trick poney. Cheers

frigid pilot
#

Feels like assassin is awkward cus bleeds take forever to apply on mobs that die fast

frigid pilot
clever sapphire
nova aspen
#

take sudden demise talent and sin will be fine to level as

icy girder
#

^

frigid pilot
#

For leveling I mean

frigid pilot
clever sapphire
#

ah mb thought you meant in general

#

but nah just talent what he said, bleed everything and run around