#assassination
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every ennemy is important
they all leave a debuff on people that stakc and that just one shot people
Every enemy is important and you’re pulling 20?
ye lol
How do you deal with that situation as outlaw btw? 

(real btw)
Zac please holy shit
what
This is the dumbest argument I’ve ever seen you make
I infected Zac
nah im sure i have had worse
i dont think that one is even bad
are we allowed to say let god take the wheel for sin aoe gameplay instead of w/e this gar vs FoK garbage is?
How about we double down on the madness and interview Mr Z on that matter?
I think you’d just vanish to reset your ic and send more bleeds but then you’re delaying cds so probably not even worth

You just told me 20 mobs are insta-wipe potential and you’re pulling all 20 and just praying to god that you’re able to dps them down, and you as the assa rogue hold the fate of the group in your hand because you mouseover’d 3 gcd’s
Is that what you’re saying
you might even double vanish to gar all of them
BRO WE'RE THE HAND OF FATE DUH
You still on this sht?
ok let me just clarify one thing tho, i do not associate with that @lone lava person
aaah, warbanks aren't purchasable through addon bag things, so my elvui bags were fucking it up lool
lmao the disclaimer
You could gar all 20 with one vanish
Nah we are fatebound, nothing we can do
whispyr aren't you glad you got off work to come argue on discord
i dont wanna be on the wrong side of history here
Can I swoop in and just ignite the whole thing with a restealth debate? 😄
i respect it
What a blow. Savage
sisyphus in the flesh?
This is an awful way to spend a Wednesday night
Zac dont like the heat, i do
im saying, pack is mega dangerous, if everyone isnt trying their best to kill it as fast as possible
ye
I mean how many times can you execute that target swapping on 9+ target perfectly without losing uptime? Like 70% of the time? That can't be worth it for 2 extra gcds lol
That’s not the question
how many garrotes was it we would gain here if we did it perfectly idr
cause idk
just 2 right?
are we all sisyphus?
i dont play sin
100% I'm a freak (liar)
0.1%
3
We already debunked this
Thats kinda accurate to the previous topic
It’s 9 vs 12
you dont target swap tho
you just randomly mouseover
and hope for the best
e
z
based
First pull lashers in academy garrote is 8% dps
no, cause we are tab target nation, we dont' bother with this tiny min/maxy bullshit
Total
Then we're playing fatebound as well though 😄
ah thats kinda disapointing
but lashers insta die
like fate is saying if we swap randomly it's a non bled target
brotherman I just realized we are the boulder 😎
big chilling
We just disregard the 15% dmg reduction and the 6 sec silence, aint worth it brother
Oh I don't do that cause how tf am I gonna find my prio target without losing time?
Id fucking push that bolder up. I'd just use a nearby highpoint to start rolling the bolder from there for some momentum
just play aff and dot the whole pack with one button
You should be garrote the dangerous targets regardless
u dont have to press more than 4 times gar what are u ppl on
They’re on the 3 garrote copium
Can you shut up man you based your entire argument on min-maxing dps and now you’re switching over to some nebulous utility value when a bunch of high level assa rogues have been dropping iron wire and arguing with me that it’s not worth the dps loss
Do you have a better pull
I mean you might as well play outlaw if you have that fast fingers
Honestly funny that you say that, because the guy people see as the #1 sin rogue in m+ frequently doesnt use iron wire
i dont have beta logs
i dont play sin
but ye if you find a log from casual or somthing we have better pulls
He's only #1 cos @midnight mist hasn't picked up the spec yet
I mean name a pull I’ll go find it
I don’t have a problem with that
Garrote 1 caster. Tab to the dude next to it garrote even if it already has it. Click big guy name plate send everything into him from there on out. Opener done
Id say hes only #1 because he has like double the amount of time of all the other good sin rogues, but that might be valid aswell

@lone lava in good faith, what's your endgoal / argument? that it's a dps loss to not always gar a new target? real talk, have you played sin in m+ since the rework in 10.2?
this is so entertaining
guys just stop engaging with them
The sht just dies before first bleeds are over anyways
let the guy speak his truth
it's pretty clear that they are just arguing in bad faith
I mean he did get an answer with math and then called it pre school level so
I'm gonna just spam garrote inside IC on the same target and spread it as much as possible. (Atleast on some packs though)
Life's already complicated enough to min max this shit bruh 
@static glacier Am a multi 2300+ rating player who just need some better insight
irrelevant question but between fatebound and deathstalker what do u rly think would be more wise to raid with.Standing above both trees and going into an overall view,all things considered.
Is there not a Sim that can be run?
Do people even mention "multi" on 2.3k?
No offense
the dangerous pull i was talking about where every mob matters would be 1st pull stonevault, i doubt you will easely find groups that pull everything tho
Nw can also be a good example where you only have 4 very important mobs, but i would argue here that if you dont get your garotte onto them you are trollnig, but different use case here, not about overall damage but prio on multiple targets damage
2300 is not a level that requires the level of min maxing you are thinking of lmao
Is he flexing 2300 when my casual ass has 2600?
i'm assuming he means pvp?
Nothing to flex either
yeah but that can't be b/c his argument is about pve
Deathstalker probably but it depends on tuning
You guys are just taking the troll bait too easy
Is there an equivalent pull in Dragonflight dungeons
wow what a shocker the random is arguing in bad faith
Guys he’s just trolling!
Find biggest health minion ✅ (Not necessarily even the priority kill target)
Target LOCKED IN ✅
IC Spread ✅
BLAST HIM ✅
Do NOT targetswap/mouseover/setfocus for kicks ✅
Tab target nation 😎
Everything better
Nah the thing is they are trying to help you while you are just in denial of the truth and now try to troll
Whispyr what do you think Fatebound needs to be better? Is there some feasable change that could still be done
oh in df, uh, let me think
He was just baiting on purpose the whole time
HAHA GUYS I GOT YOU I WAS JUST PRETENDING TO BE STUPID
@lone lava if its any help, i know @keen mantle uses a mouse over for gar and rup so he can target mobs without the debuff
make argument
lose argument
hehe get trolled
I dont think thats what he meant 
Or is it just doomed to be boring passive hero talent tree
I didn’t die on any rock
lmao
pls show us your math tho
based
yeah you show us your math, if you're so good at it
You died and got CR 3 times
I want to see what the non preschool math looks like
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I think we collectively know you are in the wrong at this point tbf
Yeah same
It just didnt reach you yet
yeah I'm expecting like some integrals, maybe some fundamental theorem of calculus
I want to see you doing derivatives and integrals and sht
if we're feeling spicy maybe even some matrix math
I did a math degree in university, if I’m preschool level then bro must be like Terrance Tao or something
i mean we have neltharus first pulls that should be fairly big with all targets with similar health, or nokhud if double pull which not a lot of teams do, BH firs tpull can also be big with most target dying similar time
Doing actual proofs and stuff like Let N be dmg of garrote and math like that
Okay I’ll take a look lemme get back to pc I’m afk atm
did you ever take number theory? it's outside of my major so I'm not gonna take it but I was curious what it's like
Is tabbing between every garr in the opener troll? Just kinda hoping you tab to a target without the debuff doesn't hurt, does it?
just like a generalized view
Bro is actually teaching highend math in ''trust me bro''
Tabbing between garrotes is optimal, it’s just not an insane game
Reincarnation of Gauss or Euler
Mouseovers are for nerds, tab target is for cool kids
No, mostly stats and calc
yes, join tab target nation, we welcome all
@balmy condor great video ty. I have a question about fatebound chaining envenom. Could it be that, because of sanguine blades and as you showed its pretty much the same pooling rules like we have rn in s3/4?
I don't play sin at all really, just curious
The assumption that garrote overall damage remains at 10% even if we start min maxing the casts is at fault. It would likely increase
@grim jay Idk what exactly am wrong about, my statement was its more efficient overall to DoT spread with fresh target tracking, it evolved into this bullshit conversation
you made a grammar mistake on the internet
you're finished
dammit
Yeah it’s similar, but you wanna get envenom uptime over everything kinda
I had like a basic 101 number theory class not boring but not my cup of tea. A lot of proofs about simple stuff like greatest common denominators and how to proof that a number is divisible by any number and stuff.
ah that's what I thought it was about
The assumption that garrote overall remains at 10% is with the best assa rogues in the world playing the best they can, how much further do you think garrote will go
it's funny how even the simplest of expressions can be so complex when you try to prove why they work
need macro or what?
its nothing special,most job-related-math ppl ask for if u are into engineering stuff etc is statistical analysis,basic analysis and then start climbing into wave interpretation etc
#showtooltip Rupture
/cast [@mouseover,harm,exists,nodead][] Rupture
i use this
this is normal button but once you mouseover mouseover is prioritized
They wanted a plater to see which name plates don’t have garrote
He needs Jesus
I mean look casual does it - he spreads to targets without rupture to get one more target dotted
yeah I'm studying computer science rn, my fall semester I'm taking algo analysis 1, software dev, OS principles, and some GE classes to tick a box
Yes, and his garrotes are around 10%
That’s already accounted for
I'm really looking forward to the software dev class b/c I've heard great things about the prof
i use this script
all borders means targets not ruptured
if ruptured border removed
Well then u don’t know why u are arguing ? He does what that person asked
I think you already know the answer then, in an ideal world we do spread gar on new targets especially in mass aoe, realistically there's multiple downsides that you have to contend with:
- You can lose globals finding the right target to gar then finding the right target to spatter > making sure it's the target you have deathstalker's mark on if that's the case.
- You can end up committing shadowstep to avoid losing melee uptime, this is more noticeable now acro doesn't exist.
- As previously stated it doesn't matter, a lot of non prio lower hp mobs in a pack die to incidental aoe like spatter and other flurry type effects / automatic cleave. You Garotting the mob won't have a noticeable difference in the TTK of the pack.
- DPS is not the limiter to dungeon timer or completion that you think it is, what we're discussing here genuinely is so immensely miniscule compared to stuff like using a global for non damage ever or waiting until tank groups mobs to dps.
- If doing this makes you miss a kick / stop on a mob because you're hyper fixated on reacting to Gar within a second and finding a mob without gar by having glowing plater you're griefing yourself and your team.
If this were a raidfight with stationary, consistently spawning mobs that are all within range of each other and nothing else was going on you could try to chase this dream.
In reality this shit isn't work the mental bandwidth you're using. for real.
I’m not arguing that it’s a gain, I’m arguing that it’s minimal in the grand scheme of things


But I think Casual also mentioned on stream it is indeed a minor gain
yup u are on track my man 👌 most math u wont even use.I took 2 classes in topology and highend math ive never rly used.Like very-long-baseline-interferometry(astrophysics) or seismic plotting etc
I mean the main point is that you got obnoxious after getting your answer already and went down a path of wrong assumptions.
That aside you kinda insisted on the theoretically best option to be the practically best option, which just isnt the case in most situations
Yeah, and he’s correct, it’s a minor gain
yeah I cleared all of my math credits when I was in community college
He was just trolling
all I have left are major classes at upper div level
should graduate by fall of next year
need to find and internship in between though
Ok but yeah if the chain is out of gas (energy) we just wait and start the chain again in tww right? I played it like that in S3/4
quantum engineering computers plz,make them better

Is it more of a gain to do it with rupture or same thing?
yeah I'll def take like, 25 units of physics just so I can get up to that level
more than 25 probably, I just through out a number 
The only thing I’ve ever argued is that the dps loss of just slamming the same target isn’t a huge loss and you can do it if it’s easier for you, because the risk of making a mistake outweighs any incredibly minor benefit from tabbing optimally
And I got slapped on that by some troll mfer
😂
I’m literally just giving it as an option if you would like to do it
Is it me or is Luxthos not showing energy and combo points anymore?
@lone lava good example btw is that at some point it was theoretically the best option to ambush all the time except in the deathmark kb windows, where you would want to mutilate for a minor gain, but realistically it wasnt worth the extra effort and noone did that
Just updated the packm and its gone
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my luxthos has both
see the issue with you whispyr is that you actually care and want to help people learn
I think pressing 2 times garrote in aoe opener you cover nearly 90% of all m+ pulls with a garrote. Maybe I am just lazying opening on my 1 target and mousovering my ruptures.
you need to be more ruthless
yup carebear whispyr confirmed
bro was memeing hard
Catering to casuals for real
fr fr
Yeah you get a bit of sanguine damage and just go again
Not doing what is expected from a TC smh my head
I wish I was a multi 2300 player
It totally does, yes
Interesting read to start the day
mfw saying that a super risky, super niche minor dps increase is not a good idea = catering to casuals
hi cev 
Hi cev
oh it was definitely interesting

that's just the kind of casual level shit I'm on
Hiya 
"Man this guy is such a casual, I really expected better from a rogue theory-crafter"
least horny #assassination comment
fuck im leaving that as a comment on the next video
How someone thinks that not minmaxxing = filthy casul
I was watching the whole thing going "ass master maybe, but not the rogue kind"
I can't post gif and comment at same time
Now I look gay
I giga minmax everything but I'm the biggest casual nowadays
Checkmate
I think now we need a "!casual" copy pasta

How could someone expect anything else if you arent atleast in the top 5 m+ sin rogues
add it to the list whispyr
I hate mythic+ rankings
I sapam ruptures on the same target during IC and sit on 4-5 stacks of scent 
very easy, I just need to maintain 2 guides, moderate the discord, theorycraft the spec, CE raid, have a life outside of the game, and then still find time to do 14 hours of keys a day
If someone is willing to sit in LFG for 13 hours a day, then go at it
Do you sapam or saPAM
grass touching is now illegal
same, if you're not playing super meta dps, it's super hard to find a group if you don't get ahead of the curve early
unless you're not lonely like me and have people to do keys with
I fondle, to be exact
Sounds like an average 36h day, idk what your issue is with that smh my head
there are people in my guild that I can run with, but some of them are either just bad at m+ or treat every dungeon like a MDI dungeon and make me want to commit unalive
Imma push high on m+ this season just so I can call people stupid and feel superior
all this m+ discussion just for assa rogue to not be meta and everyone to sit in here and bitch that they can't get into groups

m+ Rankings at this point really feel like the "monkey on a typewriter" thing
instead of writing Shakespeare,its just "spamm keys for 16hours a day, fail 99% of them, 1 is timed, number goes up and you are hailed as the new Jesus of the class"
exactly my point fam
My co worker plays feral and has already paid $212 for aotc carry so he can get groups early on


you need to sort out a casting gig so you can just sit on a sofa yapping about wow all day
for an additional 6 hours a week
you're so right
Wait you work with @shrewd night 
Somewhat reminds me of the 20 letters of the alphabet
No. He did the same during aberrus
viola, you look like you're having a life. getting a wage and a prime excuse to not raid n keys
idk... my preschool math might make that difficult
If you did that maybe you’d be a trustworthy source
koffing is a bussiness cat?
Ye
Very true
can't wait to level as outlaw and then never touch the spec again until it gets changes btw
im so gonna troll him ingame he wont even know it
love that they made outlaw a leveling spec, rogue really has something for everyone now
Why are u lvling as outlaw
Sin is good at leveling

What
Just that sub is still better

I don't like sin for leveling
Sin is better than outlaw at low lvls by a lot also
based outlaw use case has been discovered, zac in shambles
Just play sub
Just see mop remix
yeah but sub can actually do real content
I said it multiple times but this current iteration is both the best iteration of outlaw i have ever played (imo its better than s3 with double vanish and buffed cto, more interesting gameplay)
and also the worse iteration i ever played cause outlaw without acro feels like absolute garbonzo poopy ass
outlaw is only for leveling
Lol
bro leveling as an outlaw does NOT hit u lose ADR when ur flying and u get no restless blades cause everything dies instantly
then again GRAPPLE
bro outlaw is probably the worse leveling spec now
adr doesnt even do anything until you have your 20% haste
We raided together in shadowlands, but then we got married. His wife doesn't let him play at night when the guild raids.
My wife doesn't mind if I take her out to eat someplace nice on saturdays 
AWARE
Tony said the word and now it summoned Zac
Exactly lol
acro acro acro
People stick in 2016
crackshot is so bugged in outdoor because you cant restealth with subterfuge up
yeah but surely subterfuge bugs get fixed
grapple is bugged in outdoor content it will fail 80% of the times

It's the worst everything spec now tbf
I copied his comment from earlier with it and it tickled his brain
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and you wont maintain adr in open world
so, problem.
outlaw prolly the worse spec to level with in the entire game 
What a time to be alive
no sin rogue has ever been invited to a key high enough to do neltharus first pull
unlucky

I looked up the highest ranking assa log for first pull neltharus, it's a +20
i knew it
NAHHH
what is this
i see
imagine having to rely on adr or cdr to lvlup bruh.Just play sub
ah yes
Zerocool?
shiv at the end of KB
at least he used evasion
really get that juicy damage
He always does random shit
Definition of m+ climbing by spamming 20 keys a day until you succeed
enlightened individuals use cooldowns on sub then swap to sin and use those cooldowns
Only 20? Did he slack off?
listen with that kind of talk I don't think you're cut out to be a 2300+ multi
Ronkles when he throws shade while Im away
this guy has exactly 1 garrote cast in the first 2 minutes of the key
Wdym that's my favourite pull. 3.5M easy dps. Frost and dk Bros on unalive watch.

post log
its ok whisper guy
Honestly true
I still love u tho 
i will do anything for 0.1% dps anywya you know me
his sudden demise did more damage first pull than his garrote did 
I have a screenshot somewhere where you say you’re a sin main
Poggers
optimal gameplay
yes i am
Nerf SD
been maining sin since cata
If you were top5 you would understand
It was a 17 though 
Slam that Garry
Sounds wrong ngl
Garret one garret two garret three
okay korea rogue is COOKING
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wait sudden demise in +20?
He’s doing the thing I do where you press tab and press garrote either way and just hope it’s fresh
Absolute bleedmaxxing supremacy 
lol so based
whisparus, i told you its ok
I didnt really need an answer
sin is getting nerfed week 1
I needed an answer
if its for you then good

Ur making me check my prepatch logs then I found this gem
did you know that his fok did 2% dps
im happy you get to have fun
Relatable. Best moments
Is that Zac the honorary shadowblade
yo grats
Prepatch is sick 
Its based zac
(he likes garbonzo poopy ass btw)
Copium sandbagging to get acro back. they buffed blade flurry range it's the same as before
Zac once reviewed my outlaw logs, he's a shadowblade in my book
frozensoviet cooked take of the day, glad i was here to witness it today
Mini-fuu
🪝
tf
If you watch the Video
@balmy condor
im getting death treaths by a league player help
what I do

send life promises back
and heal the world
That's clearly the bait ping
I'm using it for intended purpose
the bait ping 
Owait you
me
Can we discuss the Deathstalker ST FoK though? Is it really a thing? I mean Whispyr's guide says it's a thing so it must be a thing but. Can it not be?
im baiting
Let’s go fishing
Its good, I like it
Fok is a cool spell
No new keybind
Some nuance
He also said it doesn't have to be a thing if you take the other talent
Zerocool is finally correct
if you take vicious venoms it's not a thing
And how big a loss is that?
it's 1% better
Vicious venom is 1% better?
correct
not picking sanguine is the best thing to happen to assa
youre welcome

Because you dont notice it either way?
Hu
there's still technically reasons to use sanguine, vicious venoms is pure single target slam
in any cleave situation sanguine would win
ill take the dmg loss 
its a passive that does nothing half the time and chews your energy regen
thats my take
because it reminds them of exsanguinate
i dont like it
and some hate never dies

But thats something positive
i didnt play with exsang i have no opinion
Guys how fun would you say the spec is ? For someone that's new to rogues ? From 1-5?
I like to get reminded of legion prepatch exsang
i just know the hatred some had for it
Dont tell me you didnt like legion exsang

well, the moment to moment gameplay as aug is kinda stinky, but the prep you have to do for it, thats the fun part
oh ye i also consider spreadsheets part of the fun gameplay
idk about pugging keys with it tho
i did not, i was an alacrity enjoyer with my alacrity goddess @gusty kestrel
Some people are really into excel
That’s not even meant sarcastically eithrr
I like sanguine blades, but if feels weird that we want to be under 50% with it. I understand why but still feels weird
i think the way it is now, its actually good
I remember my 1 pvp match with exsang popping the healer insta, fun time
turn the chat into MC word
having sanguine blades mostly be an energy drainer in multitarget
with some niche uses in st during CDs/BL
Does the Whispyr plater include Quazii's plater?
but still playing for uptime first and foremost
Think he did it with quazii or something
Not entirely sure if I remember it right
ah ok
lets be honest
how many people in the world actually DO that prep lol
really loved quazii's plater for listing all the mobs that have casts etc, but also want to try use the wispyr plater
yolo
I usually steal the mob coloring on quazii
Think cevs has highlighted mobs with important casts in a color, mobs with frontals in a different color etc. I usually only use Whispyrs with adjusted space between nameplates
guys, im looking to the talent builds rn, is echoing reprimand mandatory ? i cant press this shit
Yuh the coloring on mine hasn't been updated though. So it works for the dungeons in the past but not the new ones.
ez, that works then
No, take CB instead
If you play fatebound you play cb anyways
You can take Cold blood and macro it
And macro it if you're giga lazy
it's a good meme
many. some much more indepoth than others
CB macro on envenom i assume
ye
Where can we dl the Whispyr Plater profile 🙂
but it aint that difficult to run a log query through wowanalyzer to get a snapshot idea of which classes to buff
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Mobile gg
My Luxthos now looks like this, can anyone help me resolve this?
luxthos I guess
@limber lion cev, you as a classy fashinonable person, what do you think of beige chinos with a dark great shirt and cognac brown leather sneakers

Wait
Just move the Bars
Cognac brown leather sneakers?
/wa and click the bar you wanna move
I just want to say Whispyr how much I appreciate what you're doing for the community. The guides are great and you still answer all of the questions we dumb people ask even though all of them are answered in the guide.
Yes? 
Okay nvm
my pleasure
Idk what I was picturing but those are super normal
i was summoned
how can i help
Tbf I wouldnt know what exactly to have in mind if I didnt have a pair

look in the mirror to see smth cute
and hate on exsang
(dont hate on exsang, tell seli how great it was in legion)

exsang was stinky
is echoing reprimand not triggering deathstalker's mark (at 3-4)/ darkest night considered a bug or just a crappy QoL thing at this point?
bug
Am I alone in the exsang enjoyer club 
there was @jovial kite
good riddance
he was the exsang cult leader
In legion?
whispyr is in the improved sap club
in everything
then surely when the bug fixes come out at expansion launch they will make echoing feel awesome to play with guys 🙏

No clue how lol, I dmed u
and if not SURELY heroic week we would not be let down 🙏
sapped cows cant say moo
no it couldnt
#assassination message
Then you can drag it or move by clicking the arrows
Sounds good to me. I'm not a big fan of combining 2 different brown tones in the pants/shoes department. In my head I think swapping the pants/shirt around would look slightly better, but of course depends a lot on the pieces themselves.
Would something without hope could have a icon for this
get a brown watch or belt to match the shoes and youre golden

Shoes and Belt always gotta match

Look at that
belt+shoes combo is a classic, yeha

That looks pretty good ngl. Maybe better to have a different color between 2 pieces of the same one in different tones
Three
Basic polo
At the end of the day everything is subjective and what matters ia you think you look good and feel good
Fuck what me or anyone else says
What does it look like? Except georgeous obviously
is your updated version of the afenar / whispyr WA gonna be available for public use?
Good choice
@balmy condor just noticed in the wowhead guide in talent builds section for Raid ST the build doesn't have vicious venoms and as you said few minutes ago VV is better. The cheat sheat talent build does have VV though. Not sure about the imports can't check those rn.
Yes ofc
I'm waiting for the fall season, it's my fav season fashion-wise
Oh no
Get to wear overcoats and jackets and whatnot
Talent versioning might’ve gotten fucked
I really wish I had any photo shop skills so I could stretch a picture of oxi’s face over a ford

I'm so sorry
That’s a problem for tomorrow whispyr
Ye im just sometimes torn on what to pair with beige chinos. Like white, dark red, light blue and black obviously go well with it, but else
I’m all snuggled in my bed, comfy in my shit
Are there any oils or stuff like that to apply as consumable? I believe I've seen some on the beta
Whetstone
Overcoats are great indeed
man of culture I see
Yeah, I tend to lean towards white or off-white like cream colors.
Gotta do something in Disneys cars fashion 
WAIT THATS SO MUCH FUNNIER
A darker brown goes hard with navy details
Comfy in your shit sounds kinda savage
Animalic one might say
KACHOW
Used to do that with my navy suit. Only have a Black one and a bordeaux one now tho
Tiktok sucks so bad ngl
I didn’t reply to davyn :( but I thought about this tiktok instantly
When u said that
How is it legal to require an account to watch that
Yeah, I have 2 black suits and a dark grey one but would love to get a good navy one in the future. Don't really have any use for that in my line of work so haven't had the chance to get one
That’s ass
I can watch it without an account
Phone or PC?
Ye rip
Doesn’t work for me either on phone

but yeah tiktok on phone is so ass
Nah when I click the link I can’t play the video
Saying that, I regret opening that
It just takes me to the app store
Welp
I just really love a good bordeaux color, especially with black dress shirt and tie. Usually dont wear any other color if I have one but grey is really good aswell, so many combinations
Went straight to the tikkytokkies for me
I have had similar issues with the app store in the past though
I get whatchu mean

Supet annoying
Also ama just called a random person on discord
Been a while since that happened
Ty koffin
I hate that I clicked it
I was scrolling and found some weirdddd lighting McQueen stuff
I didn’t have a single doubt in my head
The only thought was “damn he found that fast I feel like I can never find tiktoks on youtube”
YES SELI IT IS

I was up til like 4:30 finishing my dissertation and then woke up to somebody grinding a sewage pipe outside at 8
Bro just casually rickrolled atleast 4 people
Thats next level

It’s like that meme of the guy who learned every rickroll url
So he could never get caught
Shorts>tiktok for mobile apparently
!wa
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Wait, isnt that based off of this sketch? htps://m.youtube.com/shorts/ny92i9UMdj4?si=lEHY9Rf-4uFoHon4a
There is no way you fell for it a second time

Atleast those pranks dont involve me questioning myself for 5 minutes
Is server gonna be down tonight?
And u betrayed me a second time
Yeah ronkles, how dare u
ME?!?!?!
It was ronkles all along
I’m clearly to sleep deprived

tinkles
Koffing, Gaslamper extraordinaire strikes again
When I was in primary school there used to be a guy who would call me Tinkles or Rinkles
Didnt know you knew ret rogue for that long, thats kinda based
Stop trying Shiennar I am immune to your gaslamp powers
wtf, Im trying to hype up the homies, call them cute and let them know I appreciate them, and you hit me with that? Are you trying to make me feel bad on purpose?
Yes
Did someone say 20 target pulls?
That’s it
You’re going in the death note
Damn
whats your prof. bonus?
Like -4 I’m incompetent
I gladly accept
Thats not true
relatable
End the suffering
me too pls




You dodged my pick up line because you were busy arguing before
Theres no point in going on anymore
Damn

Thats how I imagine you irl
Just with some thicker glasses
i dotn wear glasses though
truth is i need them
Id imagine, I dont know any person beyond the mark of 100y that doesnt wear glasses
You need some gamer glasses
Those yellow ones
There was some League pro that had those
Cant remember the name anymore
gunnar?
im not playing league idk
although it looks fun got no time

Thats him and his gamer glasses
Happens to the best ngl
well if u remove the hair and add some muscle and more beard and some white hair here and there..
😅
Hi guys, I just comeback after some time to wow and i really like the new assassination rogue talents and have a question about one skill "deathmark" how exactly this dots works.. I mean to use it correctly I have to use it after my opener with garotte and rupture then deathmark and it works or first I nees use a deathmark skill and then it works? Or maybe I have to do the garotte, rupture then deathmark and again same opener with bleeding because at my dmg meter I can see two same dots but with different columns if I do double garotte and rupture but with deathmark between them...
It always works
It just copies whats on the target at any given time
Dynamically
It copies whats on the target, copies what you apply to the target over the duration
And if something drops during it, it drops on the DM copy aswell
Oh.. so its just that Simple 
I thught that maybe I have to do the exactly same opener but with deathmark bcs its just make it double same dot
Yes it is. You just wanna make sure your stuff is running before you use it either way so you dont waste ticks
Essentially its a debuff that duplicates the bleeds in ur target.(No it doesnt duplicate kingsbane)
it duplicates garrote, rupture, internal bleeding and weapon poisons on the target*
And it works Perfectly fine even if my last skill used on target is deathmark and dots are up aswell?
yeah true it duplicates poisons as well
just not kingsbane
That’s how you now you’re not playing league
i think im gonna start some time in the future,i jsut cant now
weird schedule
It can just be a frustrating game is why I said
best poisons?
It has high highs but also really tilting lows
Amp deadly if you’re using dtb
i dont mind man,ive got like 50k+ arena games under my belt

whatever it is i can handle
I forgot what were even the poison options and so just googled assassination poisons
Forgot to add wow to it so I’m on a list now probably
I just remember amp deadly
Idek what other lethal poisons there are
Instant is the one I always forget
the poison for the lesser specs
wound
Pvper detected

still got my legion elite pvp set dw
i still got my elite from cata wdym,thats nothing
u ride a rank 1 mount
and u dont pvp anymore
get real grandpa
in general ye,it is considered a good class for m+
!wa
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Still rocking the swift netherdrake
Haven't played in years, are pre raid bis lists still a thing?
No
Bet bet. Do we have to rely on professions to get items now for progress? Sorry about the dumb questions 
no
Not really
Aight cool, so basically get what we can from m0 and hc and vault (possibly delve and wqs too) before mythic drops
Why would you say they’re dumb questions? You just came back from a long ass break, I’d say those are completely normal questions to have
Don’t call yourself dumb

Take ur own advice, ty
It's just that I normally know my shit, so when I don't, I feel dumb 
basically, yeha
Same, so I get it. But also trying to find this shit with the 835,000 posts wowhead puts out is kinda hard. So it’s not a bad idea to ask tbh
Yeah you right, you right. I appreciate you 
we all appreciate oxi 
oxi woke up really cute again today 
Actual footage of me getting ready for work
I have so many gorilla/monkey gifs favorited 
same but different animal
Same with raccoons 

because you are so ripped ? 
for deathstalker, to apply mark the only way to do this is with ambush right?
Initially yes, but then the capstone does it
hmmmm ok
what would happen if i don't use ambush at the start, everything is messed up im guessing xD?
Well you wouldnt have any marks
then your only savior is Vanish
well you will not have any marks
Aka close to no value from your hero talent
thats what i thought xD
holy im slow as shit today 
ty

for fatebound, wouldn't ER be better? becouse of the 5+ CP requirement? for hand of fate?
or does it not apply?
Theres a talent in fatebound that makes cold blood better
That will only be starting week 3
no no no
week 5
after 2 weeks of mythic
might as well just start now
to get good at it
sub ass out rogues, hmmmm
talking about races for m+, wich class u think is better Nelfs with the meld or Dwarf extra crit + plus bleed dispells.?
i was away for an hour, how much did you guys type holy shit
Cant play, can only talk shit
dwarf
i just mute every discord server im in tbh. i only check when i want to 
nelf
i think the same xD cant decide
🦊
thats why im going undead 
sneaky moo-cow here
Im a highmountain Tauren
im not pushing keys high enough for me to care about racials
also fear dispell on mists first boss
is all im saying

Dark Iron dwarf is probably best
Gems are outrageous
gems ? xD no
Gems hold their edge.
speaking of gems, i think im going JC mining
Just you wait for heroic week
is assa / rogue to bugged to play right now? : P i wanna go hard on m+ this season
and im thinking of starting with another class before leveling my rog
Assa is mostly fine in terms of bugs
Ye the list in the pin might seem long, but most of them (outside of deathstalker mark+er interaction) doesnt have much impact
Compared to sub and outlaw its very minor
infinite coup incident
Oopsie all coup
is there a target breakpoint to start fok?
3+
do you have clear the witness active?
I just meant for starting a pull if you ahve clear then you use single target right
thanks
only if you don't have vicious venoms talented 
do people not play tauren in M+ much anymore?
only if they really like being one i guess
yes
And does blindside proc replace mutilate with ambush on action bar?
yes
o/ guys dose anyone have a plater to know wich mob have a higer live? so i can know easly who its the main target?
thanks Purlock
Sin spec the way to go for M+ and Raid?
if u were to log in today, yes, but in a month(when season 1 starts) who knows
actually its more like 3 weeks now
What’s the best spec to level as rogue?
Hey guys.
Recently had to change to a worse PC and in order to keep the game running smooth I had to change my UI and cut back on some UI elements. One of the most memory eating interfaces are WA packs. Do you guys have any recommendation on one for assassination that is lightweight? Does not need to be a all in one kinda thing, just assassination since I'm a one trick poney. Cheers
Feels like assassin is awkward cus bleeds take forever to apply on mobs that die fast
Work more, upgrade pc, collect fps
a bleed spec being awkward for applying bleeds 
take sudden demise talent and sin will be fine to level as
^
Compared to outlaw and sub
For leveling I mean
Interesting





ah that office package





