assassination

[wispy pewter]

Theres two memes, one with gopferdamm and one with oida

[marble hemlock]

bavaria is not germany tho

keep that in mind

[royal lantern]

[quiet oar]

if döner budde still sells it for 5 euros

[rotund oak]

[haughty flicker]

what did bavaria do

[quiet oar]

better be prepared for some toilet sessions

[haughty flicker]

i feel like this is lore i need to know

[marble hemlock]

ill take the franken, but the bavarians, no thanks. they dont want to have anything to do with the rest of germany, i say "let them"

[wispy pewter]

Isnt München in bavaria?

[random fossil]

be better than everything else in germany

[marble hemlock]

its just

big ego central

[wispy pewter]

Or do you separate bavaria and bayern?

[random fossil]

sorry i meant to reply to this

[grim jay]

But its close. I like the Königssee&co

[rotund oak]

Why do germans hate bavaria,whats wrong?

because tis on the south

[marble hemlock]

see, this is what im talking about. thats why no one likes bavarians.

[rotund oak]

?

[stable coral]

Because they hate us

[marble hemlock]

they think theyre better than the rest of germany

[wispy pewter]

We have that too! Skåne lol, they even have their own flag, and its impossible to understand what the fuck theyure saying

[marble hemlock]

when they really arent

[quiet oar]

They are arrogant

and think germany is only build on bavarian economy

[random fossil]

literal case of hate us cause they aint us (im not even bavarian i just live here)

[rotund oak]

idk,us as in brandenburg lets say?

[grim jay]

They like to separate themself tbf. Honestly, it kinda is better down there, but you dont need to rub it into everyones face

[royal lantern]

its a Mixture of florida and texas combined with many people and politicans that think they are hot shit

it literally gets so many bonus rules because they want special treatment all the time

[rotund oak]

well germany is 16 mini-states isnt it

u are separated

[marble hemlock]

yes

[wispy pewter]

BUNDESLAND

[rotund oak]

😄

[haughty flicker]

florida and texas combined

[random fossil]

franken and munich are chill but ye they can get annoying sometimes

[grim jay]

Rather the 16 Mini states are germany

[candid hull]

that kebab is not actually a kebab

there is no such thing as doner kebab

its either doner, or kebab

[marble hemlock]

think they did a poll once and it was like

[wispy pewter]

Ever heard of kebabpizza?

[rotund oak]

ye its how its separated as a means of socio-political control under a common flag for sure

[candid hull]

Saw it in prague 😭

[wispy pewter]

Swedish pride

[stable coral]

It’s BIS

[wispy pewter]

The invention of kebabpizza

[candid hull]

stop it

[grim jay]

Döner is the german word for kebab and the way its done depends on the restaurant as seli said. There are some that do kebab the original way

[candid hull]

you are destroying my culture

[marble hemlock]

saarland is the least liked state, then bavaria shortly after. but you gotta keep in mind that that is heavily weighted due to the high population of bavaria

[wispy pewter]

Tsk, were IMPROVING it

[candid hull]

what is this appropriation

[stable coral]

Try it, it’s super good tbh

[quiet oar]

Saarland is the alabama of germany

[wispy pewter]

My favorite is "the viking"

its kebab, pork, and fries with bearnaise sauce

[haughty flicker]

lmao

[grim jay]

We all know NRW is the real winner

[stable coral]

Best drunk food you can get

[rotund oak]

[stable coral]

Jesus fuck you don’t put fries on pizza you monster

[rotund oak]

whoever does this needs to be thrown to jail,thats how u ruin a good pizza

[wispy pewter]

We also put banana on and pineapple

[candid hull]

doner is the meat they slice off vertically, kebab is the one on the grill horizontally

[marble hemlock]

swedes and pizza taste is

[wispy pewter]

Throw me to the dogs

[hollow cedar]

never understood that tbh, where does that come from

[marble hemlock]

well, ill never get it

[candid hull]

whats up with their canned fish

[quiet oar]

Ture there is pineapple missing

[haughty flicker]

ok i was willing to give the fries a chance

but banana on pizza?

[grim jay]

Mecklenburg the ohio

[marble hemlock]

smallest state in the far corner of the country

[stable coral]

Im gonna throw up

[quiet oar]

Because of the "incest" jokes

[marble hemlock]

very insulated

[candid hull]

Surströmming

on pizza

[rotund oak]

u need to be punished severely for this

[candid hull]

how about that

[wispy pewter]

Tried it, not that nice

[marble hemlock]

with pineapple and fries

yes

thatd be the swedish pizza

[candid hull]

🤮

[marble hemlock]

anyway, gotta run, be nice

or dont, im not your mom

[royal lantern]

hey, my mother is from Saarland, stop insulting my siblings

[rotund oak]

[worldly sail]

i think there is one thing everyone can agree on, and that is that italians don't know how to make good pizza

[wispy pewter]

The thing is youre supposed to open surströmming under water, but every idiot on youtube opens em up in their livingroom LOL

[bronze pike]

Get me some snacks

[stable coral]

Btw how unhinged can we be here?

[bronze pike]

Have a nice day :3

[quiet oar]

[royal lantern]

its small, thats it

and kinda shity to live in tbh

[haughty flicker]

why do you open it underwater?

ive never had it

[marble hemlock]

after you clean your room

[wispy pewter]

To remove the smell and to wash it

[grim jay]

Italia is the land of pasta and not Pizza

[haughty flicker]

ok thats fair lmao

[wispy pewter]

The smell alone makes you throw up instantly

[random fossil]

is whispyr still alive

[wispy pewter]

Look it up on youtube lol

[bronze pike]

My room is already clean

[haughty flicker]

yeah ive heard stories

[bronze pike]

Ye

[marble hemlock]

then do the dishes

[bronze pike]

Okaaaaaaaaaaay

But get me Swiss rolls

[quiet oar]

and do the laundry

[grim jay]

Disgusting

[marble hemlock]

(in my mind thats the name of the neighbors and i want you to do them, and since youll never get any bitches, ill never have to get you snacks)

[bronze pike]

Each chore = one more Swiss roll

[rotund oak]

their pizza is very wrong,very thin and very poor.There are some good storng flavors though

[wispy pewter]

a REALLY proper margarita tho in italy is amazing

[grim jay]

Tbf american pizza is just as bad

Just the other way around

[bronze pike]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1111843340493799434.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

[haughty flicker]

depends on what you mean

i guess since you said opposite you mean deep dish

[rotund oak]

yeah U.S pizza is overstacked to no end,there is no balance to their food

[bronze pike]

I like my pizza being thick af

Covered in sauce and cheese

Like a cake

But made of pizza

Thin crust sucks dick

[stable coral]

Disgusting

[rotund oak]

i like deepdish but i do prefer a margarita

[bronze pike]

Imagine eating pizza

[rotund oak]

yeah true margarita can be amazing if properly done

[bronze pike]

And it’s as thick as a cracker

[quiet oar]

Kebap Pizza with Cheese crust

[grim jay]

The only good overloaded pizza

[wispy pewter]

there we go, add some banana and we got the holy trinity

[rotund oak]

[quiet oar]

[stable coral]

Jesus Christ man

He has to be trolling

[grim jay]

I do like them right inbetween american and italian tho. Medium thickness, still crisp but saucy

[worldly sail]

the first swede to put banana on pizza thought: "don't have ananas, must put on bananas "

[stable coral]

Neapolitan pizza is not crisp tho

[wispy pewter]

To be fair, I absolutely fucking hate pineapple and banan on pizza, but its very very common here

[rotund oak]

There is nothing better than a proper german schnitzel or some bratwurst with weiss beer

kebab pizza my ass

[wispy pewter]

Fries however is rly good

[quiet oar]

Wdym

Gyros with Metaxa sauce

is also goated

[grim jay]

Wiener Schnitzel best Schnitzel tho ngl.

[wispy pewter]

True, I landed in Wien to go to slovakia and ended up in that historical schnitzel place, jesus was it good

[rotund oak]

gyros is greek we are talking for german stuff

[quiet oar]

yes i know

But giving greeks their flowers aswell

[grim jay]

The german Schnitzel I appreciate is Jägerschnitzel

[wispy pewter]

https://www.figlmueller.at/en/

[rotund oak]

i miss going on oktoberfest man

[wispy pewter]

Best thing ive ever eaten

[grim jay]

Or Zigeuner Schnitzel, thats BiS aswell

[royal lantern]

then why not bring up actual german food

Maultaschen? wer hat bock drauf?

[stable coral]

Best German food: potatos, sauce hollandaise, Bratwurst. Change my mind

[hollow cedar]

Leberknödel anyone

[stable coral]

Or Bauernfrühstück 😮‍💨

[rotund oak]

the only actual homecooked food ive eaten in germany was kasen something

[wispy pewter]

Tried it once, did not enjoy

[rotund oak]

was delicious

[candid hull]

cheese and pomegranate sauce?

[rotund oak]

kasespatze

or something like that

its been years cant remember how to spell it

[hollow cedar]

Käsespätzle

[quiet oar]

A Ofenkartoffel with sour cream

ong

[grim jay]

Calling sauce hollandaise german is wild ngl

[stable coral]

Do we have statistics of how many ppl here are German?

[wispy pewter]

we can do a little sample, but given the ppl typing here, it feels like out of all 10 to 15, maybe 3 of us arent

[stable coral]

In combination with potato’s and bratwurst it is

[wispy pewter]

Me, the turkish guy and the american

[candid hull]

any cigkofte enjoyers?

[stable coral]

Dfq is that

[grim jay]

Mozzarella chicken tomato arugula balsamico and parmesan

[quiet oar]

the odds someone you talk to in sin channel to be german are prolly 1/3

[candid hull]

yum

[quiet oar]

Well

if you think further, its 50/50

to meet a german

[rotund oak]

very very good 👌

[wispy pewter]

speaking of which, in international terms, would you consider swiss and austrian germans in this context?

Like ppl do with "scandinavians"

[candid hull]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Çiğ_köfte

[quiet oar]

Austrian and Swiss count as german speaking

so kinda count them

[wispy pewter]

Yes but when you say

How many "germans" its mostly about the language, rather than what flag they live under, Got it

[candid hull]

it is very yum yum

[grim jay]

Tira isnt german either

Just german speaking

[stable coral]

Oooooh köfte, never tried it but heard a lot about it, it’s kind of a meme imo

[stable coral]

Therefore he’s German

[candid hull]

this is not exactly kofte as its not a meatball

[quiet oar]

????

[candid hull]

if you eat it at a good place it has raw meat inside

[stable coral]

Understood

[quiet oar]

Davyn gatekeeping my german body

smh my head

[stable coral]

That’s monkatos

[candid hull]

But you can eat it vegan as well

[grim jay]

Because you are so georgeous you must be from a different universe

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/shy-dog-dog-shy-dog-shoes-martian-shy-gif-1847379792495616229

[candid hull]

ya that's why you gotta eat it at a good restaurant 😄

otherwise street sellers are required to only make the vegan version

[grim jay]

Thats glorious

[candid hull]

you need to get a certificate to sell it with raw meat

[wispy pewter]

is that a shiba btw?

[candid hull]

it tastes 10x better with raw meat tho

[haughty flicker]

shibas dont wear shoes

so i dont think so

[wispy pewter]

I ment the pfp lolk

[grim jay]

Imagine eating raw meat

[quiet oar]

No

[grim jay]

That shit is worse than raw fish

Ugh

[quiet oar]

dont think its a shiba

[stable coral]

That’s a little reassuring atleast

[wispy pewter]

then what breed is it on your pfp? Cus I knew the attached gif aint one

[quiet oar]

Oh

ye

[candid hull]

Bulgur is kneaded with chopped onions and water until it gets soft. Then tomato and pepper paste, spices and very fine ground beef or lamb are added. This absolutely fatless raw mincemeat is treated with spices while kneading the mixture, which is in lieu of cooking the meat. Lastly, green onions, fresh mint and parsley are mixed in

[quiet oar]

the pfp is yes

[wispy pewter]

ah I see

[quiet oar]

[grim jay]

Fuckin thousands of years of evolution

[quiet oar]

Black Tan Shiba

[grim jay]

And we still have people eating their meat/fish raw

[candid hull]

So its not technically raw

[quiet oar]

[candid hull]

It's not the same as idk meat tartare

[vestal cliff]

Mettbrötchen is love

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/ramsay-raw-gif-13771788

[quiet oar]

Jetzt n Mettbrötchen ong

[random fossil]

ufffffff

[stable coral]

I can’t keep reading the messages here. I’m hungry as fuck and I can’t eat for another hour

[random fossil]

pls man all i have at home is cereal

[grim jay]

I have 10 letters for you in no specific order

D
I
S
G
U
S
T
I
N
G

[vestal cliff]

Mettbrötchen is the best invention ever

[random fossil]

and its mariä himmelfahrt so i cant go get any real food FUCK

[grim jay]

Invention

[quiet oar]

Du bist ausgebürgert

[rotund oak]

Canniballs...

that thing exists in france as well

[stable coral]

Stores closed? Ours are not

[royal lantern]

mett is just german sushi

[rotund oak]

ppl just season minced meat and eat it raw

[random fossil]

yea

[rotund oak]

str8 out of durotar

[hollow cedar]

yeah and both are disgusting

[stable coral]

Has to be souther Germany right?

[wispy pewter]

Egg yolk on top and you got råbiff, rly good

[random fossil]

ye munich

[vestal cliff]

Dieser Discord ist nun Eigentum des Deutschen Mettbrötchenverbandes

[random fossil]

still in the middle ages clearly

[grim jay]

Mettbrötchen 10000% got invented by some degen that was drunk and forgot to cook the meat after seasoning it while he was drunk. Just slapped that pile on a Brötchen because he had no burger bun and called it a day

[vestal cliff]

And i pray to this drunken mastermind every day

[stable coral]

I hate when stores are closed, Munich is a beautiful city btw

[rotund oak]

just no man,im an expert in grill and love cooking,taken even couple of lessons,there is a way to just keep the freshness and juice in meat,thats not it

[grim jay]

And both is disgusting

[wispy pewter]

Well.. michelin restaurants in sweden serve it as an appetizer so I think they know what theyre doing 😛 But yes, I prefer it grilled 100%

[rotund oak]

u can still grill it and be very juicy,there are certain ways to do it,its not hard,just need some experience and know ur fire

[random fossil]

ufffffffff

[rotund oak]

[wispy pewter]

Everyone is gna hate swedish cuisine after today

Pineapple, kebab, fries and banan on pizza?
Surströmming`?
Raw beef and egg yolk?

[stable coral]

Why would you waver eat raw meat and eggs? It has no benefits

[random fossil]

idk man the pizzas were kinda cringe but id eat that every day

[stable coral]

It’s just being lazy

[rotund oak]

yeah man,its like

why not kill deers and eat them str8 up

no cooking

just season it

[stable coral]

Hahahahahaah

[haughty flicker]

lmao

[wispy pewter]

Also fun fact: It is what u get when u enter a bar in korea, a bar cant serve alcohol without providing food, so they just automatically charge you for a plate of this so u can start drinking hah

[grim jay]

Sounds like Mettbrötchen

[wispy pewter]

We did that once, when I got my first roe deer we had to taste a piece of the heart, its nasty af

threw the rest to the dogs, they love it

[rotund oak]

[candid hull]

tartare is ew

[rotund oak]

savage

[quiet oar]

Everyone knows Mett is out of Hedgehogs not Deers

[stable coral]

@wispy pewter you are good man you gave us IKEA

[rotund oak]

why kill hedgehogs man

[wispy pewter]

Also, speaking of hunting and germany

I actually use a coat from the german army reserve that I got from a flea market when I hunt during early autumn lol

[quiet oar]

Its a joke

because germans do the "mettigel

[wispy pewter]

so I rep the black red yellow when roaming the woods

[quiet oar]

a Mett Hedgehog

[haughty flicker]

thats not a great gif to post

[quiet oar]

ye

[rotund oak]

dear lord

[random fossil]

im so hungry man

[quiet oar]

Gonna delete

[stable coral]

Der Igel wohnt jetzt hier

[vestal cliff]

Theres only one thing better than mettigel and thats mettfuß

[quiet oar]

just wanted to show how mettigel looks like

[quiet oar]

Well and tbf

[spring stream]

Mettbrötchen mega nice

[quiet oar]

my shiba did kill a hedgehog

last years

[wispy pewter]

howd the snout end up?

[quiet oar]

He wasnt that bloody

[bronze pike]

I mean

We eat Guinea pigs

Taste like turkey

[wispy pewter]

Atleast our hedgehogs dont release the quills so its not nearly as bad as the american version of it, but Ive never had to experience it

[quiet oar]

[rotund oak]

there are roma ppl that kill and grill hedgehogs here they taste like rabbit they say but idk,im just sad watching them dead.Same for snails

[wispy pewter]

U from Chile?

[bronze pike]

Peru

[haughty flicker]

guinea pigs are farm animals

ye

[bronze pike]

My grandmother used to own a farm under her house

[wispy pewter]

Ahh, yes maybe I mixed em up, but supposedly its rly tasty

[haughty flicker]

dont take up much space

[bronze pike]

Literally Guinea pig heaven

Get em nice and plump

And it’s a good dinner

[grim jay]

My dad drank a cup of fresh warm pig blood every day back when he was younger. Tried it a few times and its hella disgusting

[wispy pewter]

Heard that guinea pigs and rabbits are the best survival animals to have at home, rly nutricious and cheap and low maintenance

[bronze pike]

I only had it once when I went to Peru to visit my grand uncle

[candid hull]

?

wtf

[wispy pewter]

thats the worst one so far, wauw

[stable coral]

Filthy animals

[royal lantern]

mate, i think your dad was Part of a cult

[grim jay]

Its healthy

[candid hull]

demonic ritual type shi

[rotund oak]

i ate couple of blood sausages,it was weird

closest to raw blood ive ever done

[grim jay]

Its healthy brother

But disgusting aswell

[wispy pewter]

Speaking of disgusting food (and also swedish)

we have blodpudding

[grim jay]

[quiet oar]

Did he sacrifice your rabbit that "walked away"

[wispy pewter]

Served in school once a month atleast

But drinking it... oof

[rotund oak]

bruh whats happening in sweden

weird ppl

[stable coral]

HOW DID WE COME TO TALKING ABOUT DISGUSTING SHIT

Can we talk about nice food again?

[grim jay]

No it died naturally and I saw him placing it against the wall like a stick while digging the hole because it was already hard

[wispy pewter]

Well, living up here wasnt always democracy, 200mb/s internet and heating

so our historical dishes are pretty nasty from a modern perspective

[grim jay]

[quiet oar]

[wispy pewter]

You guys eat crayfish btw? Kräftskiva season is now up here

[candid hull]

what about lahmacun

[wispy pewter]

I know louisiana in the states love it, and we get our crayfish from turkey

Do you eat them mr turk?

[stable coral]

It’s BIS

[grim jay]

With some pig blood sprayed over it?

[candid hull]

W

[grim jay]

[candid hull]

L

[royal lantern]

another question:

did you ever see your dad in sunlight?

[quiet oar]

Good question

[grim jay]

Now that you mention it

He always worked far away

[rotund oak]

hahahahahaha reasonable question

[grim jay]

And was mostly inside when he was home

[quiet oar]

Sus

[rotund oak]

[candid hull]

🧄

[stable coral]

Davyn is safe tho, his dad is probably not gonna suck him of

Wait

[quiet oar]

[vestal cliff]

[rotund oak]

[grim jay]

I also have pretty pointy canine teeth. All 4 of them

[candid hull]

[quiet oar]

Does sunlight hurt you

[grim jay]

Idk, im a gamer brother

[candid hull]

Do you like garlic?

[grim jay]

Who doesnt

[haughty flicker]

yeah asking a wow player if sunlight hurts them doesnt help narrow anything down

thats just to be expected

[quiet oar]

THe person who didnt eat garlic and wants to kiss you

(me rn)

[vestal cliff]

[wispy pewter]

what is a "sunlight"?

[rotund oak]

Davyn is the daywalker comfirmed

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-blush-fang-gif-5885154

[rotund oak]

wesley snipes

[grim jay]

I wish

That guy is cool

[candid hull]

blade is so fucking rad

[haughty flicker]

it was pretty lucky they found an actual daywalker to play blade

wesley snipes very cool

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/eat-out-eating-out-reaction-reactions-lick-gif-16584410

[candid hull]

https://tenor.com/view/blade-wesley-snipes-deadpool-and-wolverine-eric-brooks-walking-gif-11314910434756776075

[grim jay]

Bad days for vampires

21° my ass

My car has those glowy heat waves all around it

[wispy pewter]

wait, hold the fuck up

Ive completely missed what Arterial precision does

LOL

Time to start using shiv more often

and that thistle tea increases mastery... imagine actually reading the talents KEKW

[quartz osprey]

Whats the go in mass aoe?

where there isn't a big prio mob

[versed mica]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[grim jay]

Dont worry, many people dont

[grim jay]

Doing the same on a smaller Mob

But probably not using DM

[wispy pewter]

dm?

[vestal wren]

Deathmark

[wispy pewter]

deathnmark?

ahh

[vestal wren]

I needed a moment to not write danse macabre, subtlety brain kicked in first

[quiet oar]

I cant read ok

Leave me alone

[royal lantern]

wow players 🤝 yu-gi-oh players

not reading anything

[quiet oar]

Men that Assemble something that has a manual

[grim jay]

Reading yu gi oh cards was pretty frustrating tho

Like they hyped the shit out of certain things in the series to just make them work different in the card game

[haughty flicker]

at least they made it clear what pot of greed does

https://tenor.com/view/pot-of-greed-yugioh-american-psycho-gif-24142793

[wispy pewter]

me too lol thatts why I was wondering

[ebon apex]

I'm new to dot classes (outlaw player)

in 6-8 target AOE situations, after the initial dot applications run out and if I don't have restealth, do I continue to rupture every mob one by one

[strange python]

Can I just macro Cold Blood to Envenom?
And if it's on cooldown, it will still cast Envenom just fine?

[royal lantern]

hi new to dot classes (outlaw player)

[strange python]

Yeah you still want rupture if htey're gonna live on as many as you can - for energy regen mainly

[ebon apex]

at which point does it stop being beneficial to refresh dots

[royal lantern]

keep enough bleeds running on priority targets that dont die in 6seconds because your team is looking funny at them until you have energy saturation

aka

[strange python]

when they're gonna die or you're just swimming in energy

[royal lantern]

after the IC Spread bleeds run out, keep them on big guys and thats it

[ebon apex]

I see I see

[strange python]

How bout the Cold Blood thing - can you just macro it in with Envenom?
Or is there a downside to this?

[royal lantern]

and rupture>>>>>>>>>garrote, you dont really spread non-stealth garrotes (and it has a cd anyway)

[candid hull]

Is it worth using ambush from stealth, and then garrote with improved garrote?

Or just straight up use garrote from stealth

[royal lantern]

you only ambush from stealth if you play deathstalker and dont have the capstone active

otherwhise you ALWAYS garrote from stealth

[ebon apex]

so an example pull would look like... Stealth, Under IC apply Garrote and Rupture to everything I can, Crimson Tempest. Once all dots are online, use slice and dice, deathmark - shiv - kingsbane, mutilate for spatter, rinse repeat

[royal lantern]

pretty much ye

[candid hull]

thankie

[royal lantern]

its sounds more complicated then it actually is

[ebon apex]

yeah

[royal lantern]

turns intuitive after some time and you dont really think about it anymore, because all steps are 100% logical and make sense

[strange python]

If there are 5 adds - do you just Garrote 2 of them, and it covers all 5?

[royal lantern]

with IC? yes

[strange python]

ok it's not like a "weakend version" or anything

the one that's spread

[ebon apex]

also how exactly does IC application work. do I need to manually tab between targets for max application or can I spam bleeds on one priority target over and over again and it spreads to nearby unbled targets?

[royal lantern]

improved garrote stays active for 6seconds

so if you stealth and garrote 2x, both are empowered

[royal lantern]

well, if you, lets say rupture 1target with IC up, it spreads to 2additonal targets, aka 3x rupture

if you use it on the same guy again, you just overwrite rupture on the guy that allready has it and the spread 2 again

aka if you do 2x rupture on the same guy, its 5 bleeds, if you actively swap to a target with nothing its 6

[ebon apex]

I see... so if there are 5 targets it's okay to do that, but if there are 6 it's bad cause you need to use an extra garrote

so manually tabbing to unbled targets is the good habit to have

[royal lantern]

pretty much ye

another thing is

do you really NEED it on 6 for that pull

or can you stay lazy

depeends on the enemys

[ebon apex]

isn't it always a dps increase to have it on as many as you can

[haughty flicker]

always be lazy

[ebon apex]

or should I not think about the dmg at all and care only about the energy regen

[royal lantern]

like, in brackenhide you can almost always stay lazy and just truck 1 guy cus 70% of the packs do nothing and die in seconds anyway

[royal lantern]

sure

[ebon apex]

thanks a lot

will smack the dummy for a bit

[shy dust]

Yessir

[wispy pewter]

however, ive come to the conclusion (also outlaw noob on assa) That when you keep tabbing to find the "undotted" enemy, you lose atleast one global doing so, and it completely messes with your muscle memory and momentum

so I actually do more dps just double garroting the same unit, and keep my muscle memory and momentum intact and also save a gloval

[royal lantern]

rip bozo

staying true to your pfp

[wispy pewter]

But maybe thats just me being an idiot

[ebon apex]

I said tabbing but I'd probably just put garrote/rupture on mouseover

and use them on unaffected targets

[wispy pewter]

Yes, but still having to look for it, ( i think I need to update my nameplate for this spec)

[ebon apex]

probably

you can also just Do Your Best ™️ locating a target but not stop spammin your abilities so the GCD keeps rolling even if you are unable to find

[wispy pewter]

Yes, but my brain is not capable of that (yet) as I still have to kind of look at my WA to get the feeling of it

[ebon apex]

hitting a dummy feels REALLY bad after you've initially run out of steam (used stealth, vanish to reapply dots, then dots run out)

I assume that's normal since in regular scenarios the pack would die and you'd restealth out of combat right

[royal lantern]

stuff dies, rupture gives energy back

more targets mean more cp gain

[ebon apex]

rupture gives energy back when targets die?

[royal lantern]

yes

[ebon apex]

okay so that's why it feels like shit just hitting the dummy then

[royal lantern]

and, well, always have a couple bleeds out for energy, thats all

if you gain and spend at the same rate, its enough

[wooden radish]

Why don’t they make IC spread to 4 targets instead of 2

Shorten the process by one gcd

And start tunnelling the big mob sooner

[royal lantern]

because its not supposed to be a "single button everything has dots" thing?

multi dotting is supposed to take some effort

IC is allready REALLY frking big and covers 90% of your multidotting in Dungeons

[wooden radish]

I mean pressing garrote twice on main target to spread 5 dots max isn’t effort

So why not just make it simpler

Is my thinking anyways

[terse orchid]

Because we'd be playing DH if we wanted braindead

[wooden radish]

my point is that pressing Garrote twice from stealth is still just as braindead to spread dots, because of smart dots

theres nothing complicated about pressing it twice back to back knowing you'll get 5 dots everytime on 5 targets because smart dots will carry the process for you

[subtle tundra]

Or idk, apply bleeds after the first ones expire?

Wild I know

[wooden radish]

so in that case its already braindead but needlessly has the process of pressing the button twice

[haughty flicker]

well

what happens when you scale that up though

[wooden radish]

just make the window for IC tighter

[haughty flicker]

now with yours you press garrote twice on the same mobs up until 7 targets

[wooden radish]

or make it apply only once

[haughty flicker]

so now why not just make it 8

[subtle tundra]

Look up IC's first iteration

[wooden radish]

first garrote will spread to many targets, therefore you can just get started right away with the rotation after the first garrote

[static glacier]

Im an Ass man

[subtle tundra]

Garrote and rupture should be the rotation bud not just a stepping stone

Assa has always been a bleed spec, it just changed now in df

[wooden radish]

if you wanted it to be more engaging, i reckon the smart dot application for IC only works if you use garrote on a fresh target (no garrote up) 🙂

then all of a sudden you have to use your brain and tab to a target that actually doesn't have garrote after the first one

[subtle tundra]

i want IC removed

[haughty flicker]

you've tunneled really hard on this single 5 target pull

[subtle tundra]

but neither one of us is getting what they want

[wooden radish]

lol

[haughty flicker]

at 6 targets you do exactly that

then at 7 you can change how you do it

and it changes again at higher target counts

its not meant to be super complicated

[wooden radish]

yeah thats my point

so why not just have IC as a one time use after stealth

[haughty flicker]

but you're ignoring the gameplay

[wooden radish]

and just spread to something like 4 targets

shouldn't be complicated right

[haughty flicker]

people like pressing their dot buttons

thats kind of the point

[subtle tundra]

have you played assa at the start of the expansion?

[wooden radish]

i know about the original IC

[subtle tundra]

well then connect the DOTS

[wooden radish]

lol

[royal lantern]

this is #assassination

the entire channel is bottoms yapping at eachother

[terse orchid]

speak for yourself, i'm here to Sin

[wooden radish]

either way i think the smart dotting is cool

makes the dotting process braindead but also fun i guess

reliable

wish more classes had that feature

[subtle tundra]

wish other classes had it, us not

[static glacier]

at this point the only classes without are lock and perhaps boomkin?

though twin moons is smart iirc

[wooden radish]

I think the arms warrior rend from TC doesn't do it?

i can't remember tbh

blood and thunder

[static glacier]

they spam tc so much in aoe it doesn't matter

[restive hawk]

takes random target but you spam anyway

[static glacier]

we're talking every 3rd global or so

unlike sin where you have a strict window

[wooden radish]

hmm thats true

[static glacier]

and gar starts having a cd and doing weaker dmg

[terse orchid]

Also they're not a dot class right? Gives them some room for skill expression without making the core gameplay a slog

[static glacier]

highkey

dots have been a failure in wow

[haughty flicker]

arms is kind of a dot class

ngl

[terse orchid]

Only since they ditched snapshotting

[haughty flicker]

not like dot dot

[wooden radish]

i wouldn't say arms is a pure dot class, but its a big part of the spec

[static glacier]

the moment they turned every dot class into effectively stackable debuff for your main filler or spender instant dmg nuke

and couldn't balance multitarget dots

it took the fun out of feeling powerful with multitarget dots

shit like shadow's embrace is to blame

[subtle tundra]

assa such a good dot spec it needed a bladeflurry

[static glacier]

scent of blood is the right kind of idea

they shoulda gone further down the dot ticks empower you rabbithole

[royal lantern]

arms does more dot dmg then 90% of "dot classes" lol

[knotty radish]

I love waking up and stretching, while letting a fart rip to begin the day 🍺.

[subtle tundra]

i love assa chat

thanks

[restive hawk]

ass chat in this case

[grim jay]

Idk where is the part where you shotgun a monster

[knotty radish]

Farts are a chemical DoT you know?

[terse orchid]

Blight damage for sure

[knotty radish]

Monsters are for noobs

[haughty flicker]

biological but

the point is taken

[knotty radish]

Real men snort pre-workout

[grim jay]

Bro just called Whispyr a noob

And pre workout basically the same just with added useless stuff and more expensive

Change my mind

[terse orchid]

useless
Sure, if you don't work out

[restive hawk]

just chew some caffeine tabs

and put salt in your water

[terse orchid]

Also, it's cheaper

than energy drinks at least

[knotty radish]

Caffeine pills wreck my world.

[grim jay]

Used them back in the day

Good stuff

[restive hawk]

thats their puprose

[grim jay]

Just not at 4 am

Before sleep

[knotty radish]

They have caffeine gum too and it’s pretty solid

My guildie chews like three of them before raid

[grim jay]

I do

[grim jay]

No

[wooden radish]

take them with 200-400mg of L-Theanine and you'll feel alert+relaxed at the same time

no crash

[knotty radish]

Vurai I’ll try that out today friend

[wooden radish]

I prefer 1 x 200mg L-Theanine tablet with 1-2 cups of coffee

[restive hawk]

Imagine taking something that starts with L

[wooden radish]

energy literally lasts a good 5-6 hours, smooth

[restive hawk]

better take W-Theanine

[knotty radish]

How much L-Theanine do you take mg wise?

[grim jay]

If you just take your average energy syrup or powder its way less expensive than pre workout

[wooden radish]

200mg a day, but 400mg max

[knotty radish]

Jesus 1200?

[winged quail]

all these mfs trying to game as wired as possible meanwhile I'm mythic raiding completely fried

[wooden radish]

L-Theanine is so good

[terse orchid]

i assume he meant 1x200mg lol

[wooden radish]

yes lol

take 1200mg and u might fall asleep

[knotty radish]

Energy drinks have too much sugar in them. Pills and powder work better anyways.

[terse orchid]

ngl, caffein for gaming is some L shit

[rotund oak]

1200 would send him to the hospital

[restive hawk]

real

[wooden radish]

All u need for energy drinks is just a good ground coffee + L-theanine, no need for the other stuff

use an aeropress

its easy

[terse orchid]

Just buy some milk, flour and vitamins and boil em down into little energy balls

[knotty radish]

The last time I geeked out on caffeine I slaughtered in 3v3 with the perfect frost DK go I’ve ever had. Murdered the shaman and the holy priest pooped himself on how hard I touched his teammate.

[wooden radish]

can i replace the flour with ultra fine oat powder

[rotund oak]

u boys are rly weird

[knotty radish]

Aeropress? Like a French press?

[rotund oak]

drink a juice,eat ur veggies,eat a peach and do some cardio

[terse orchid]

Dunno, you'd have to ask charlie kelly

[wooden radish]

https://www.aeropress.co.uk/

[grim jay]

Ever heard of Zero sugar energy drinks

[wooden radish]

exercise is the most important really + 8 hours sleep, you need to help your hippocampus generate new neurons so you can continue to improve and learn ass rogue 🙂

[terse orchid]

Cardio like cycling preworkout, running through hoes and swimming in pussy?

[knotty radish]

They taste bad

[wooden radish]

spinning is great, 30-45mins and your brain ready to go

[grim jay]

Some do arguably, not all of them

[terse orchid]

Spoken like someone who's never had a mango Monster Ultra

[knotty radish]

I like the taste of NOS energy

Do you guys remember the spike energy drink?

[north granite]

snorting red bull >

noobs

[wooden radish]

evaporate all the water then snort the powder?

[terse orchid]

They should bring back OG 4loko

[rotund oak]

💀 im 39 running 6-8klm and bench 250.Just be normal with a balanced diet,nothing special,protein,your veggies,vitamins if u have a deficiency and u are golden

[north granite]

just snort the liquid

[rotund oak]

dont need extremes

[knotty radish]

Have you ever snorted a line of caffeine off an E-girls ass? You’ve never lived.

[grim jay]

Rockstar energy zero syrup is pretty good and the Monster ultra series has some bangers, like paradise

[wooden radish]

u need vitd3 imo no matter what

we always deficient

[wooden radish]

snorting liquids up the nose takes very special resilience

[knotty radish]

Vitamin K is another deficiency

[rotund oak]

more like waking up in the morning before the sun goes out,and start moving those legs

45min-1hour

u will thank me in 20 years

[restive hawk]

id do that if didnt have to get up at 5:15 every morning

[wooden radish]

did you write the 5am Club book or what

[terse orchid]

Leave it to old people to turn waking up early into a personality trait

[wooden radish]

lol

[grim jay]

Im just eating normal, only watching for kalories roughly and taking half of a daily dose of an Essentials supplement, d3, omega 3 and creatine

[knotty radish]

Working out does wonders for the body, not just a physical looks transformation either.

[grim jay]

[wooden radish]

the whole 5am meme is for early birds which i don't think necessarily works for everyone

[rotund oak]

was trying that but u dont have to wake up that early,i usually start at 6:15 come back around 7:00 shower and off to work

[wooden radish]

some people just don't function in mornings

[narrow bone]

I'm a little confused about this. If we do #5 then #6 can't ever be done since we cast vanish after death mark in the opener and they have the same CD?

[knotty radish]

I love mornings

[grim jay]

You delay dm

[wooden radish]

i don't, sunlight takes away my vitamin d3 not give me any

[grim jay]

For vanish

[narrow bone]

Okay, thanks!

[terse orchid]

Eh, it's all learned behavior. People who say they don't function in mornings just haven't properly adjusted their circadian rhythms

[knotty radish]

I worked nights for 7 years and I’d rather live in N.Korea than to do it ever again 🤨.

[rotund oak]

im trying to just be normal,thats all,i did my blood tests,all came back solid,im strong as an ox

[wooden radish]

im a vampire so might be difficult to change ingrained habits to howl at the moon

[junior shore]

[grim jay]

Your body doesnt care if you do your shit in the morning or in the evening

[restive hawk]

^this

[rotund oak]

morning or evening is part of the routine

[wooden radish]

Sapzilla identifies as a solar panel tbh

[rotund oak]

if u work and dont have time

just do it whenever

morning exercise is better thogh

[grim jay]

Its totally subjective

[knotty radish]

Morning workouts get me pumped for the day

[grim jay]

The best workout is the one where you get the most done, which is a personal thing

[knotty radish]

Morning sex is another thing but I am single atm

[terse orchid]

As far as health benefits go, absolutely. But practically exercise tends to have an upper effect so it's best not done right before bed

[narrow bone]

Depends. I suffer with DSPD, it's not as easy as simply adjusting your circadian rythem.

There's likely a biological component to "night owls" with good evolutionary reasons; a tribe would want atleast some people up at night keeping watch.

[restive hawk]

the best workout is reading assa guide every morning tbh

[rotund oak]

workout is one thing,cardio is another,u can invest 2 hours a day if u wanna fully work out daily or bulk up or whatever u want

[grim jay]

Yeah, gotta chill a while before bed

Couldnt sleep right after either

[knotty radish]

I did kick off the assa chat this morning

I take full credit

[wooden radish]

people always say, for the best cognitive health, no drugs or pills or drinks will do as good as 8hrs sleep + daily exercise

[terse orchid]

No it's not, lol. Cardio fits within the bounds of working out

[junior shore]

Consistent sleep schedule is the most important thing

[wooden radish]

ye

[restive hawk]

coffee has a higher hydration effect than water btw

[terse orchid]

Early to rise and early to bed makes a man healthy, but socially dead

[wooden radish]

I love how ass channel is a good neuroscience discussion place

[junior shore]

Which is impossible as a gamer so cheers

[rotund oak]

ofc it does,its just not all the work out u can do,cardio is very specific and its the minimal work out u would need(elengently) to stay in shape

thats where subjectivity kicks in

[narrow bone]

Neurotoxins are the best poisons.

[restive hawk]

if you need 2h for a workout you are doing something wrong my friend

[terse orchid]

What you said is akin to saying animals and cows are two different things

[wooden radish]

2hrs is a bit long tbh

[runic prairie]

2hr could be travel time inc

[grim jay]

People having "benefits" in working out or doing cardio early in the morning is as much a psychological thing as "I cant get shit done in the morning" is

[rotund oak]

it depends what u wanna do,and yes its alot of time

[narrow bone]

It all varies person to person, if our guy likes a 2h workout, more power to em!

[runic prairie]

my gym is 20mins away

so that eats 40mins

[rotund oak]

?

[knotty radish]

Sapzilla is the perfect rogue name

[wooden radish]

i'm glad i bought an apartment thats 1min away from my gym then 😄

makes going to the gym really easy to do, no procrastination getting in the way

[terse orchid]

By bike? That's just warmup/cooling down

[wooden radish]

procrasination is the bane of everyone's life

[hexed frost]

Man they really did a number on assa

[runic prairie]

for sure, home gyms are the best

[hexed frost]

Envenom hits like a truck now

[runic prairie]

by car

[wooden radish]

its not exactly a home gym, but the gym building is in the neighbouring building 😄

[terse orchid]

Surely there's a gym closer by your home than 20 minutes by car

[knotty radish]

Know what else hits hard? DK and warriors

[wooden radish]

ye i wouldn't take a car to the gym tbh

[knotty radish]

I hope we all get to shine

[runic prairie]

close enuf 😄

[wooden radish]

bike to gym might be a good way to warmup, and cooldown after weights

[restive hawk]

resistance bands are op if you dont have a gym around

[quiet oar]

Real

[runic prairie]

there is, but its tiny. so thats actually the closest functional one

[grim jay]

I bought myself some stuff for days I cant make it to the gym

[wooden radish]

i battle this shit everyday, using all the tools on the belt, pomodoro, checklists, etc

without any of this shit

i'd be fucked

[terse orchid]

Have you tried ritalin?

[knotty radish]

Here in Tokyo! Is where you need to go!

[junior shore]

Have you tried mushrooms

[grim jay]

Never did any of that, dont even know what pomodoro is

[narrow bone]

https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-j

You checked for this?

[quiet oar]

Im just trying to survive like that

[knotty radish]

Uh oh the psychedelics talk is coming

[terse orchid]

Think it's italian for tomato

[wooden radish]

Pomodoro is just a focus on 'process' rather than product (completing the job/task), and its a 25min timer with 5 min break

[rotund oak]

U are living in Tokyo Japan?

[wooden radish]

but a good way to just focus

[terse orchid]

You ever try DMT man? Jamie pull up that video of that chimp

[knotty radish]

No it’s a song from fast and the furious 😂

[rotund oak]

thought that much

[grim jay]

Idk Im strong willed. If my mind says I cant focus then I cant focus

[wooden radish]

lol i do something like this

[knotty radish]

I have visited Japan though. Incredibly beautiful country, culture shock really did shock me.

[terse orchid]

Isn't that the opposite of strong-willed?

[wooden radish]

I do this sometimes and just give in for a couple hours, get it out ya system

[quiet oar]

Look at him

[grim jay]

It was a joke

[wooden radish]

but sucks when the whole day goes past and ya stuck

[quiet oar]

Sometimes i sit there and be like what did i do

[wooden radish]

glad u liked it

[grim jay]

I only have that at work

[wooden radish]

lol have those days too

[terse orchid]

Oh lol, guess im mentally cooked today

[knotty radish]

Apparently Japan has breeding visas now due to the declining population 🤨.

[quiet oar]

Today as example

[wooden radish]

wut

[quiet oar]

sitting at the office

[terse orchid]

How I feel after driving home

[quiet oar]

Just to sit there

[wooden radish]

i mean look at us now

sat on discord

yapping away in ass channel

instead of doing our work 🙂

[narrow bone]

So, Assa AoE question; do we just want to spread enough bleeds for energy sustain or do we wanna bleed everything that's gonna live?
Does IC prio targets without bleeds already, and how much of a DPS loss is the "lazy" method of just bleeding one target repeatedly to spread via IC?

[knotty radish]

Look into it it’s true lol

[quiet oar]

Thats what im doing all the day

But tbf

i ahve nothing to do

[terse orchid]

Did not need to call me out like that

[grim jay]

For energy if no scent and for max stacks if scent

[wooden radish]

calling myself out too 😛

[narrow bone]

Okay, thanks! 🙂

[wooden radish]

what kind of scent? I like aesop scents the most

Geranium scents are nice

[quiet oar]

Scen of blood

i guess

[restive hawk]

scent of piss

[wooden radish]

eww i don't like the scent of blood

[terse orchid]

Just use your common scents

[wooden radish]

smells like iron

[quiet oar]

Well it gives you agility

[grim jay]

Xerjoff Naxos or Initio Side Effect

[quiet oar]

so

[royal lantern]

"wtf they speak without subtitles????"

[quiet oar]

kinda ok

[knotty radish]

😂😂😂😂

[wooden radish]

I want a scent that gives me relaxation not agility

[grim jay]

All those Anime must have taught you smth

[terse orchid]

Yeah that keikaku means plan

[quiet oar]

You need int for that, because Ranges hae the chill life

[grim jay]

Ye because they are smart with all that int

Smart = easy life

[wooden radish]

The main greeting you want to say in Japanese is 'omae wa mou shindeiru'

[quiet oar]

Smart = higher chance of depression

[knotty radish]

Smart people play rogue cause when everyone dies you vanish to live another day.

[restive hawk]

actually true, thats why im happy all the time

[wooden radish]

ok my lunch break is over, this was fun, neuroscience, sleep, exercise, pills discussion

[haughty flicker]

i used to be smart

[wooden radish]

ass channel is the best

[haughty flicker]

now im just sad

[grim jay]

Gotta have something to keep you in check

Else youd rule the world

[terse orchid]

Same, then i started playing league

[knotty radish]

I take full accountability for making assa chat pop off!

It all started over a stretch and morning farts

🍺

[grim jay]

Smad

[quiet oar]

Well

Assa channel is always

off topicing

[restive hawk]

not much to theorycraft in this spec i guess

[grim jay]

Honestly we are just sages

Versed in the way of the world

[knotty radish]

Can you still snapshot bleeds?

[quiet oar]

Snapshooting got deleted in WOD

i think

[knotty radish]

No way it was that long ago

Wut

[quiet oar]

iirc MOP was the last time

its only rare now

like nightstalker did snapshot

[knotty radish]

Yee I do remember that

Memory is fuzzy

Oh well 🤷🏼‍♂️.

[quiet oar]

[grim jay]

As long as it aint furry

[rotund oak]

irrelevant question but where do u live exactly in Germany

like city

[haughty flicker]

[quiet oar]

Do you know the Aida crusiing ships

they have disney ships

[rotund oak]

nope 😅

i can google them hold on

[quiet oar]

They are built in the Meyer Werft, im living near that

Like 40 minutes away from North sea

[glacial stump]

I must be a fucking genius

[quiet oar]

Im sorry, you have to be an exception

[grim jay]

Thats why tira is so salty

[rotund oak]

Thats NNW Germany,near the Sea

[grim jay]

[rotund oak]

poggers

[quiet oar]

Ye

[glacial stump]

Damn, dumb and depressed, win

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/boat-monkey-driving-monkey-monkey-driving-boat-funny-monkey-gif-5232687

sea monkey

[quiet oar]

Have you tried being happy !?

[grim jay]

Wouldnt wanna live there

[glacial stump]

[grim jay]

Weird people

[quiet oar]

its still 40 minutes

im not living next to it

??

[grim jay]

Excuses

Tira the seadog

Exposed

[limber lion]

Idk man I'm an #assassination addict I can't help it

[quiet oar]

Joking aside, take depression seriously and seek help if you suffer from it

[glacial stump]

nah its not that deep

[quiet oar]

I meant this more as an reminder for everyone

[glacial stump]

Not that its a joking matter but i wasnt being serious

[limber lion]

I'm about to get a haircut

[glacial stump]

Stop playing wow?

[grim jay]

Cr7?

[limber lion]

Let's see if my depression gets worse in about 45 minutes or not

[quiet oar]

Thats the first step yes

[glacial stump]

Before and after pls

[quiet oar]

Well 50/50

[limber lion]

I need hair on my face brudda, I can't do short styles

[grim jay]

Id literally change my barber if he fucked up so bad I would feel uncomfortable

[limber lion]

I would say I look like an acne-scarred egg, but my face is full of fat even though I'm skinny, so I guess it resembles a stress ball instead

[quiet oar]

Imagine having a good beard growing

(i have to imagine, because im not blessed with a good beard)

[grim jay]

You are the cutest stress ball there is

[grim jay]

I had one with 16 already

[quiet oar]

look at him

mr blessed genetics

[grim jay]

But people with thick beards usually dont have great hair on top for long

[quiet oar]

all i can grow is a johnny depp like moustache and chin combination

thats about it

[grim jay]

Staches can be really cool tbf

[quiet oar]

i mean i dont mind the combination i like it

But a full beard

would be cool

bgl

[sturdy mesa]

Ye staches either look manly, or you end up lookin like a predator

[last skiff]

[quiet oar]

[static glacier]

it's infuriating that they incorrectly pluralise feet too

[quartz osprey]

I saw in the wowhead guide you can just send your garrotte and rupture into the primary and spread with IC

How much are you trolling yourself with that?

[static glacier]

each time you do that past the first if there are 3 or more targets remaining is -1 bleed

[vestal wren]

it is a very good tip when learning, and a big qol thing.

[static glacier]

e.g ur vs 5 targets, you press gar twice on 1 target you dont lose anything

but if ur vs 6 and you do it you'll have 1 target without gar on them

[quartz osprey]

Hmm okay

[static glacier]

you give up applying gar to a target without in exchange for max pandemic'd gar on ur main target

[quartz osprey]

Well I’m on day 2 of sin so might try it haha it sounds much easier

[static glacier]

it's not going to make or break ur performance

it is an optimisation though

[quartz osprey]

I’ve been hunting around for the mobs without dots and ran out of the IC window because of it

[static glacier]

yeah losing globals bc you're searching for mobs is a nono

better to gar on main target rather than spend 2 globals looking for a fresh target

[quartz osprey]

Yeah

[inner atlas]

Once you are in a fight with multiple mobs (let's say 8) and you are way past the opener, how many garrotes and ruptures do you want to sustain?

[quartz osprey]

I also had another question if you don’t mind, what would you do when you get a bunch of small adds to kill

like AA first boss or tindral

[static glacier]

enough for scent of blood essentially

[quartz osprey]

They die quick

[static glacier]

if you have CT consider sending it, esp with sudden demise, otherwise just cleave through spatter

im sure someone here has done TTK for CT usage on x number of targets

probably whispyr

[quartz osprey]

So just CT and then envenom with fan of knives?

[static glacier]

assuming the mobs would live long enough for CT to be worth ye

and remember to maintain spatter by using mut every 10 globals

[quartz osprey]

hmm yep, I might need a WA for that to remind me

[spice surge]

For "filler" damage yes, but you also need to keep up the 5 ruptures for energy and scent

[inner atlas]

I guess enough is maximum number of ruptures with SoB talented then. And we don't care about garrote on side targets?

[static glacier]

they're talking tindral style aoe

[spice surge]

Ah mb

[static glacier]

doubt there's opportunity for rupture gaming sadly

I wonder how wurf rupture clipping for energy will be with deathstaler

I doubt it's better

[spice surge]

Think of ruptures and garrotes as energy regen that does damage rather than big dots

[quartz osprey]

In most cases the mobs die too quickly it doesn’t feel worth it. Like in Ruby first boss with the whelps lol

The other dps are sending CDs for maximum pad too

[inner atlas]

Ok so basically if I am max energy, then I just send on primary target?

[static glacier]

gar is a gain compared to other buttons you have esp if ur focusing the target but in aoe applying extra Gars is of secondary importance to CT/ Rupture and spatter uptime

[spice surge]

You apply enough to sustain your energy, then you swap to caustic envenoms (and obv keep CT up)

[static glacier]

i generally keep gar on 1-2 targets

that I care about focusing down

if its a bunch of equal hp mobs just gar ur main target outside of IC

with IC we spread gar

[inner atlas]

Thx for the tips. Do you do that with mouseover of do you swap targets?

[static glacier]

whichever works for you, I switch targets nowadays

I use mouseovers for ranged dot specs

[inner atlas]

Isn't that a loss for caustic spatter?

Maybe that loss is absolutely insignificant

[spice surge]

Yes its a small loss to not auto attack your castic spatter for a second or two

But as long as youre not using envenom on a non-caustic target its not a massive loss

[static glacier]

it's a small loss yeah, but so is having a global on a mob you mouseovered wasted cus ur out of range and cant see hitbox indicator

if you're confident in being in range (raid boss big add) mouseover is the correct choice

[inner atlas]

Yeah ok I see. Thanks a lot to both of you, super clear!

[candid hull]

Wouldn't it be so sick if blizzard buffed poison bomb

[normal mist]

not really

[static glacier]

you tell me

pros / cons

go