assassination

[supple ermine]

Same

[grim jay]

H E K I L I

[royal lantern]

delete hekili rn if you didnt allready do it

[supple ermine]

LMAOOO

Listen

[royal lantern]

you are legit better off pressing random abilitys

like, not even a joke

[supple ermine]

I'm just a girl

And drunk 70% of the time

Actually no I can't defend myself

Ik it's ass

[grim jay]

Even if you were drunk 100% of the time

You would do better without

[supple ermine]

LMAOOO

[grim jay]

And Whispyr does better with one less hekili user aswell

[supple ermine]

Lemme jus slam my keyboard and tell my m+ raid I was told to do this

Ong

[runic prairie]

hekili is actually pretty good tho

its based on apl's

[grim jay]

Dont let Whispyr read this

[supple ermine]

Who's whispyr

[grim jay]

And last time someone said its based on apl, Whispyr said it certainly wasnt his

[runic prairie]

which is what your sim's are based on too

[supple ermine]

Oh him

[royal lantern]

it reay really isnt

[grim jay]

Last time he said it actually wasnt even based on it

Also apl is static

Nothing situational

Nothing happens

[runic prairie]

try it. Hit a ST dummy without it. And then do it with hekilli. You'll find its not that far off

[bronze pike]

I mean

[supple ermine]

Okay but what should I then do

[bronze pike]

You shouldn’t be using hekili ever

Like if you need a tracker

Get weakauras

Hekili simply doesn’t work for sin

[grim jay]

It works for bm hunter ive heard

[bronze pike]

Works for ret and outlaw too

Doesn’t mean it works for sin

🫠

[fringe oxide]

Dot classes and such are difficult for hekili

[runic prairie]

hes wrong then

[bronze pike]

He’s not

[supple ermine]

Ong when hekili for healing specs

🗣️

[bronze pike]

But I’m sure he said something different

Lemme find the og quote

[grim jay]

It literally says "a (some) SIMULATIONCRAFT-LIKE (not the same) priority list"

[supple ermine]

So if hekili is a big no no

What am I supposed to do

Actually learn the rotation and shit

Ew

[royal lantern]

yes

[grim jay]

Yes

[bronze pike]

Ye

[royal lantern]

we all started low

[supple ermine]

Disgusting

[grim jay]

Indeed

[runic prairie]

an APL is just a list of instructions of if statements

they have just recoded it in lua

[supple ermine]

Like how dare you tell me to use my brain

[grim jay]

There is no point in arguing tbf, it doesnt say it uses exactly that and in history was shown that it suggested different things

[quiet oar]

Hekili is not good

[bronze pike]

We shouldn’t be suggesting hekili to people trying to learn anyways

[quiet oar]

[bronze pike]

Cause it just teaches bad habits that are hard to unlearn

[supple ermine]

Idk that's what I was told

[runic prairie]

i disagree. Hekili is great for learning

[bronze pike]

Like your not playing the soec

[runic prairie]

it gives you the basic of how the spec flows

[bronze pike]

Your being told what to do and follow a order

Tell me

[runic prairie]

then you can get into the nitty gritty of it once you sorta understand the buttons

[bronze pike]

Would u press deathmark on a target that’s about to die cause hekili told you too?

Cause that’s the case

[quiet oar]

If you math Tasks, someone Shows you the answers Do you Learn something from. It?

[worldly sail]

yes

[grim jay]

Thing is you dont understand them following some addon blindly

[bronze pike]

With the majority of hekili users

[quiet oar]

Or Do you actually Learn it when you calculate yourself

[bronze pike]

And that’s not a rogue issue btw

That’s a issue with every spec that uses hello

The amount of ret paladin logs where people send cds when combat is about to end cause hekili said it

Is staggering

[normal mist]

There's no point in arguing if it shows he isn't here to change his mind

[bronze pike]

Plus hekili doesn’t work with sin

[runic prairie]

you dont in the beginning. But once you start reading up on rotations and everything then you'll understand and it makes more sense because you've seen it in action

[bronze pike]

So your actively dumping your st

[grim jay]

What if I wanna argue

Fight me.

[normal mist]

I won't, you'd win

[grim jay]

[bronze pike]

You must

[normal mist]

About hekili: it is good for SOME specs, like ret, and worst for others

[bronze pike]

There’s just no reason to use it for sin, it doesn’t even help

[grim jay]

So you play with a wrong addon to then read up afterwards if you could just read up in the first place

[supple ermine]

To do

I had a years break from wow n just came back

Gotta relearn everything

[runic prairie]

reading up on the new spec is overwhelming when you dont userstand the basics of the spec

theres so much micro optimizations

which you dont need as a new player

[normal mist]

It's like using training wheels to learn how to ride a bike, you keep making mistakes and you think you're doing a good job

[grim jay]

But the guides have the basics

[runic prairie]

you want to get the basic rotation

[bronze pike]

Hekili doesn’t give a basic rotation tho

It gives a mismatch for sin

So your not learning anything

The basic concept is

Builder builder spend

[grim jay]

Id keep doing mistakes if it meant I could keep training with you

[supple ermine]

Whoa

[bronze pike]

Then after you got that down, you go builder builder energy observation, spender

[normal mist]

If Atheal wants to use hekili, let him. Problems will most likely come later and we'll read the famous "but hekili said so".

And we'll be back to this conversation

[grim jay]

We are usually wholesome like that, but royal turns cold and serious while arguing

[quiet oar]

Just look at hekili like a dmg debuff

[grim jay]

[quiet oar]

If you use it

You Do 20% less dmg

[runic prairie]

I'm gonna be straight with you guys. I learnt sin on hekili.
Gave me the basics on the kingsbane rotation. I didn't even know to shiv before kingsbaning.

Then after i got a feel of it, i read up on all the micro optimizations of the rotation

[quiet oar]

Thats when he is the hottest

Ong

[normal mist]

I'm not cold, but I'm writing on my phone, takes longer and I need to focus xD

[fringe oxide]

I think hekili has it's uses. I usually use it during raid leading. That being said. I think i became a better player and understood rogue better after using the LE weakauras. And i watch every whispyr video religiously.

[supple ermine]

Yeah I'm so serious and cold always

[grim jay]

Idk might be me but I remember things better if I know why Im supposed to do them in the first place

[normal mist]

That's growing, and I respect that. If you used it to learn and then moved to actually learning the spec, that's admirable

[bronze pike]

Same

[grim jay]

Burning basically

[molten galleon]

on how many CP do we finish currently with all the changes ?

[bronze pike]

Frankly for ret

[normal mist]

5+

[bronze pike]

I just use hekili as a indicator when something is off cd

[molten galleon]

thanks mister

[quiet oar]

Hotroyal

Royalhot

[earnest remnant]

i do that too, its called a Weakaura

[bronze pike]

Yes

But I’m lazy

And don’t want to track blade of justice procs

[runic prairie]

but thats kinda what im saying. When you're new a spec, you wont remember the tiny stuff because you dont even know what skills to be pressing.

[normal mist]

I do that too, it's called looking at my bars

[bronze pike]

Click?

[earnest remnant]

boomer

[bronze pike]

Me clicker too

[runic prairie]

you're not gonna give a shit about a tiny optimization at the start

[normal mist]

29

[quiet oar]

I wanted to flirt with you

But i restrain myself

[bronze pike]

:3

[radiant raven]

I keep making my bars smaller to force myself to look at my WA's for cooldowns.

[earnest remnant]

one more year of outlaw and then its joever

[runic prairie]

hide your bars

[radiant raven]

Making them progressively smaller is a lot funnier though

[normal mist]

I'll be honest, you'll grow more as a player by just hanging out with the assa boys here and asking questions, than using hekili, but you do you king

[normal mist]

I don't like yellow

[earnest remnant]

based

[grim jay]

I do because thats how I learn. Its how I learn at work aswell

[fringe oxide]

I think the reason i like playing sin is this community. There's always someone that can tell you how to become better. And if you're getting better you can always pass the knowledge forward.

[supple ermine]

Dinosaur

[earnest remnant]

reason i like playing Assa is because its not outlaw, but its close to sub

[normal mist]

Mom says I'm cute

[earnest remnant]

aye she says that about me too

twins

[fringe oxide]

I have been in other discords for classes and usually it is only dooming. Shit smells if you are a fan of playing it.

[earnest remnant]

[grim jay]

Your mom or his

[normal mist]

My mom's the best

[supple ermine]

I'm a young and healthy 21

[earnest remnant]

his ofc

my mom would never say that

only "FAILURE"

[runic prairie]

sure, lets agree to disagree here then. we got different learning styles. I like to be very hands on to learn shit

[grim jay]

Based asian mom

[normal mist]

I can't really speak for outlaw, but at least sub and sin are the best communities I've seen across all class discords

[radiant raven]

They're pretty great.

[runic prairie]

the rogue discord is the best class discord

im in several others

[earnest remnant]

heard sub channel has some very toxic mods

[fringe oxide]

Real.

[runic prairie]

and its not as active and helpful

[earnest remnant]

no idea who they are tho

[grim jay]

Elitists

[supple ermine]

Ong roque on top

I gotta get rid of that habit

[runic prairie]

only top we can get

[earnest remnant]

100 parses or no talking allowed

[supple ermine]

I type it with q for some reason

[normal mist]

Gotta be good before you even join the channel

[fringe oxide]

Guys I don't feel so good...

[earnest remnant]

yes

[supple ermine]

Nah I top in dps

[earnest remnant]

just read the FAQ?

[supple ermine]

Sonehow

[normal mist]

(for legal reasons, it's a joke)

[earnest remnant]

just press buttons

i dunno

1-2-3

100 parse right there

[grim jay]

Press buttons and crit

Idk

[earnest remnant]

no think, only press

[supple ermine]

Just slam your cheeks on your keyboard

[earnest remnant]

brrrrt

[radiant raven]

he didn't say what 100 parses. I've got a 100 parse in healing in LFR as a Rogue. Bam.

[normal mist]

Calm down this isn't yellow territory

[fringe oxide]

I'm going to frantically check all my logs

[supple ermine]

I know what that means

[normal mist]

Tbf I enjoyed outlaw HO in s3 and s4 M+

[grim jay]

Did you just front asians

[runic prairie]

sin 🤝 sub

[grim jay]

Didnt expect you to be that kind of person royal.

Im kinda disappointed

[supple ermine]

Anyways how do I get rid of hekili and use my brain for rotations

[grim jay]

Just delete it

[runic prairie]

once you're comfortable with it, just disable it

[river beacon]

Alt+F4

[quiet oar]

i sleep to wake up to make fun of outlaw
i play sub to make fun of outlaw
i eat so i can think of more content to make fun of outlaw
i make fun of outlaw cuz they are target capped
i play sub cuz it isnt target capped
i enjoy assa more than outlaw cuz it has a better version of Flurry
i make fun of outlaw cuz it will never be meta in raid
i play sub cuz it will always be meta in raid
||there was gonna be a point 9 but outlaw cant reach that many||

[radiant raven]

Delete it, then hit the dummy for a bit. Then run some low keys or something to get comfy.

[quiet oar]

Still Best copy pasta from stealthi

[earnest remnant]

that was a decent one

[supple ermine]

Okay but like I have no idea about the rotations

Nothing moves in my brain

[grim jay]

We need to hide an acro in there

[runic prairie]

are you familiar with the skills now? If so, go read wowhead

[grim jay]

For a 2.0 version

[river beacon]

Well talk with a rogue about some interactions and then just hit the dummie after some days there will be questions then talk again 🤣

[normal mist]

You won't like the answer but:

• disable hekili;
• check the wowhead opener guide for whatever content you're trying to play (m+ / st)
• read your talents and abilities;
• hit a dummy for a bit following the opener rotation until you understand why you're pressing that sequence of abilities in that order;
• understand we're a maintenance spec;
• probably the easiest to play and learn;
• profit.

[runic prairie]

start with ST rotation

[normal mist]

If any doubts: #assassination

[runic prairie]

aoe is pretty much the same

[supple ermine]

I certainly don't

[normal mist]

And rogue bros will be here to help

[supple ermine]

That means I need to read

Smh

[runic prairie]

or you can watch YT guides too

[supple ermine]

Also the fuck is a maintenance spec

[grim jay]

Buffs/debuffs to keep up and track

[brazen pine]

Maintain your buffs and debuffs, regardless of situation.

[fringe oxide]

https://youtube.com/@whispyr5793

[normal mist]

The GOAT himself

[brazen pine]

Your rotation doesn't change much based on what you are fighting. Still putting up the same dots. Still keeping SnD rolling.

[supple ermine]

Makes sende

[normal mist]

The spec itself is fairly simple

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-gif-18600890

[fringe oxide]

I wish he did more videos about optimization later in the patch. After I've got a decent understanding of the basics I'd like to learn even more!

[runic prairie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta8o29ufDug

[normal mist]

That's 10.2

[bronze pike]

yoda

Well no

[runic prairie]

the basics havent changed much

[bronze pike]

I can’t make assumptions yoda is sus as dps

Since I don’t know

[normal mist]

Rotation and openers did

[grim jay]

Strong in you the knowledge needs to be, young padawan

[normal mist]

Whispyr mentioned he will put out videos before the expansion starts if all goes according to plan

[bronze pike]

Nah nah I know sin to a basic level

I just don’t know is yodas sin is good

[hoary remnant]

Hekili like any addon is a tool. I would recommend putting it by the side of the screen and at that side run details steamer mode to see what you pressed. Then record yourself hitting a dummy and try to understand what a guide says, what hekili recommended and what you (having details streamer addon) actually pressed.

[bronze pike]

As a tank, yoda has very sus takes

Or we can stop using hekili if your starting out

[normal mist]

The addon is fine for some specs

Not so much for Rogue in general

The spec hekili works the best is ret because hekili, the player, played ret a lot (?)

[bronze pike]

For rogues it’s really gonna hamper your development

Actually he’s a shammy

[river beacon]

Its based for ench shammys 🤣

There you could use it

[fringe oxide]

Enh shaman

[hoary remnant]

It's a tool to learn something. Especially if you don't have any muscle memory. Same goes for using dbm. Everyone decent raids with bigwigs, because factually it's just better, but needs to be customized. Dbm just works for 95% of the people out of the box.

[normal mist]

Want a hot take?

I never use dbm

[royal lantern]

comparing hikili with dbm/bigwigs is some higher level brainrot, ngl

[normal mist]

LOL

[hoary remnant]

Good bigwigs is better

[bronze pike]

How can u compare dbm and hekili

[river beacon]

Every decent plays with weak auras 🤣🤣

[normal mist]

I don't use anything

[bronze pike]

Especially for sin rogue

[normal mist]

I learn the fights really fast in my head

[hoary remnant]

Hekili is a tool it works out of the box weak auras for classes require more setup. That ain't brainrot that is comparing addons and there purposes.

[normal mist]

But heroic isn't really hard

[supple ermine]

Relearning but same thing

[runic prairie]

you cant compare heroic to mythic raids

[bronze pike]

Whispyr is gonna come back

Soon

And see this

[runic prairie]

heroic you can breeze through it blinded

[bronze pike]

And flip out btw

[grim jay]

Idk he might skip it if hes flying

[normal mist]

That's what I said

[grim jay]

Flight takes some time

[earnest remnant]

Hekili is mostly fine for a brand new person to the entry of the spec, but the issue with it is that it will teach you bad habbits

[bronze pike]

Oh he’s travelling?

Nvm then

Hekili away

[grim jay]

He was at the airport earlier

[fringe oxide]

He's going to be such a disappointed person. He's sin team spending this much time chatting about something he hates.

[earnest remnant]

but you dont really learn how to play the class by using hekili you learn to follow the pictures, you dont really get closer to understanding why you wanna do something

[runic prairie]

its a great tool to learn

just dont rely on it

thats all it is

[earnest remnant]

yep

[normal mist]

Exactly

[humble ginkgo]

wrong just wrong.

[runic prairie]

YELLOW NAME

[signal lynx]

hello i try to learn assa maybe u can link me a video for the rotation ?

[normal mist]

!guides

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[normal mist]

And you can check whispyr on YouTube

[royal lantern]

skip in assa?????

what is happening

[signal lynx]

TY very much royal

[royal lantern]

the end is comming

[bronze pike]

Skips

[humble ginkgo]

im a cringe fotm player

[runic prairie]

the hekili discussion is triggering everyone

[humble ginkgo]

forced to play the broken op rogue spec

[earnest remnant]

damn thats crazy

[humble ginkgo]

ive sent 500+ feedback reports on assa beingo overtuned

will get nerfed soon

[hoary remnant]

So your actually playing a spec that ain't a meme in raid?

[normal mist]

Yeah most likely

[earnest remnant]

skip is a fotm chaser

[humble ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-radar-nerd-radar-nerd-emoji-goofy-gif-15206659345311799377

[royal lantern]

aka sub after heroic released and they just slam a -80% aura on assa again?

[earnest remnant]

he just likes to act like he is not

[fringe oxide]

Wait sin rogue is the best rogue spec again?

[wide sand]

more like fotm ruiner

[humble ginkgo]

not for long

enjoy heroic week

[normal mist]

We've been getting quite some buffs

[hoary remnant]

In m+ yes raid no

[earnest remnant]

so we just go back to sub being the go to instead of Assa again

[humble ginkgo]

assa is the best spec in the entire game

[fast mural]

Do we know new buffs how much % is buff?

[grand trail]

That's fine with me

[fringe oxide]

[hoary remnant]

Yeah Aug got removed

[humble ginkgo]

sub without shadowdust

#goated

[hoary remnant]

Check pins

[terse orchid]

Only relevant content anyway

[earnest remnant]

just take the 5-6% dmg loss

[humble ginkgo]

yeah

just take the dps loss

[hoary remnant]

You must be a casual 🤣

[bronze pike]

Shadowdust deadge

[humble ginkgo]

i really hope we dont play shadowdust this raid

[earnest remnant]

we will

[humble ginkgo]

bro stop let me hope

[hoary remnant]

It's currently best sims for sub

[bronze pike]

I SAID

[hoary remnant]

It got easier 90 sec dust

[bronze pike]

SHADOWDUST DEADGE

[earnest remnant]

its alot less cringe now tho

just plays like a 1 min 30 spec

[royal lantern]

its dust, its always cringe

[hoary remnant]

That's subjective

[subtle kiln]

2 min sub holding cds way more cringe than dust build(s)

[fringe oxide]

for another dust sheet.

[earnest remnant]

not happening

[terse orchid]

casual m+ simp, for sure. Hardest part in mythic raiding is dealing with unnecessary restrictions

[earnest remnant]

not when its going to be 90sec cd intervals

[wide sand]

dust is not the problem. having 6 cooldowns on different CDs, and some having active cdr is the problem imo

[normal mist]

I deal with it by not raiding mythic

[hoary remnant]

Admittedly yes raiding on a fixed schedule can be difficult. I get that.

[earnest remnant]

people dont need me to type it out on a sheet of paper when its that straight forward

[runic prairie]

shadowdust would be less cringe if flag and blades was same cd

[hoary remnant]

You play it like that exactly

[subtle kiln]

You treat them as 90 seconds now. It’s fine

[terse orchid]

Exactly. But heroic is silly easy. At least m+ scales so it can be challenging for everyone

[runic prairie]

👀 they changed it

[fringe oxide]

Ah I did not realise. Is sub still hard to play or has it been less so now of the changes? I haven't been keeping up.

[hoary remnant]

Delves level 12

[terse orchid]

Mole people true mvps

[hoary remnant]

It's easier. 90 sec cd class

[bronze pike]

Ya sounds less cringe

Reminds me of 1min ret

[fringe oxide]

Cool! Love trying something new at times!

[bronze pike]

Pretend cd are 90seconds and it’s fine

[hoary remnant]

Having to rawdog sectech on dark brew build because you have not enough dances in st is worse imo

[lilac sparrow]

are you bros tracking clear the witness to use in st

[royal lantern]

they dont tell you about the "use black powder on single target" Part

[hoary remnant]

Yes. As sin you use it.

[bronze pike]

Oh

Back to being gigA cringe

[terse orchid]

Tracking? We just press whatever Hekili tells us to

[bronze pike]

Using aoe on st

Is aids

[normal mist]

Meanwhile FoK with deathstalker ST

[hoary remnant]

Using aoe finisher that got its dmg buffed and gets you more cp and costs less energy idm that

[lilac sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/880962277619138614/1070413929118969939/togif.gif

[bronze pike]

Nah cringe

[royal lantern]

yeha, sub has that aswell

[bronze pike]

Using divine storm 3 times to ramp crusade stacks level of cringe

[fringe oxide]

I hate RNG as much as the next guy but what if we unironically play deathstalker?

[hoary remnant]

Yeah you finish with BP when u have 4 unseen blade procs and not in cds

[hoary remnant]

You do currently in m+ sin

[normal mist]

It seems to be the play in m+*

[fringe oxide]

Don't do this to me people

[hoary remnant]

That depends on boss fight. You edited to m+. But raid depends

[earnest remnant]

honestly, id say its easier to play, but you have more buffs to keep in mind

[normal mist]

Sorry I'm half asleep, I edited faster

[grim jay]

I think a fok every now and then is kinda cool

But aoe finishers on ST

[fringe oxide]

What happened to just press buttons?

[normal mist]

To compensate, here's a gift for my bros

[earnest remnant]

well to me, its just press buttons

[bronze pike]

Beans

[normal mist]

She's sleeping and purring

So loudly

[radiant raven]

What a good catte

[fringe oxide]

What if I play mists and I don't get my stackies back from mr tree boss (first boss) do I still cry or do I still play it?

[wide sand]

you reroll to mage

[grim jay]

Just dont ambush

If you dont have stacks you cant not get them back

[normal mist]

Although I don't 100% know, I believe we'll be changing between DS and Fatebound in some dungeons

[fringe oxide]

But who is going to answer my questions?

[earnest remnant]

some magus

[grim jay]

Might aswell not have as much impact if its just one boss

Or there might be a way to play around it

[grim jay]

Think they are busy fuming about nerfs in the near future

[earnest remnant]

they should make a group chat with outlaw then

then they can cry on eachother's shoulders

[fringe oxide]

Fire mage is down bad. I wanted to play it next to rogue next season.

[bronze pike]

Real

[grim jay]

Ive already said, any more tears from outlaw and Ravenholdt has its own sea.

[bronze pike]

Coming back from a other “ew we got buffs” cry fest

Paired with a side of “where acro! Bad game”

[fringe oxide]

Is heroic week the benchmark of what is actually good to play in s1?

I thought I heard someone say that

[wide sand]

for raid maybe

[normal mist]

I believe the problem with outlaw is that some yappers there have really strong personalities, and no it isn't always a good thing

[wide sand]

for keys, defo not heroic dungeons

[grim jay]

They usually balance at that point and stop for some time after, atleast hold back on bigger things

For rwf

And then do stuff again after its over

[midnight mist]

can just say my name its fine i wont take it personally

[normal mist]

Believe it or not, I wasn't thinking about you zac

[midnight mist]

[grim jay]

You definitely have a personality tho, dont worry

[midnight mist]

impossible

[grim jay]

Even if he didnt mean you

[humble ginkgo]

#outlaw chat has been ruined for so long

[hidden herald]

When Race to world first starts it’s locked in for a bit, but can change a few weeks later. One things first sure though if something sucks at launch your in the gutter for prob the whole of season 1

[humble ginkgo]

miss old outlaw yappers

[midnight mist]

real

outlaw chat with skip

was bis

(no)

[humble ginkgo]

outlaw chat is literally so much worse now

actually

it was worse for a while in df

[normal mist]

You know something is wrong when yellow is complaining about yellow chat

[humble ginkgo]

been

[midnight mist]

Well idk why skip still has a yellow name tbf

[normal mist]

Ask him!

[grim jay]

But that isnt necessarily the case. They do buff stuff afterwards so its not the whole season 1

[humble ginkgo]

born to outlaw forced to fotm

[midnight mist]

Bro been fotming forever now

[grim jay]

I mean he is working on being outlaw again

Considering his 500 reports of sin being op

[terse orchid]

How is that even possible

[midnight mist]

so he can play sub

[grim jay]

He probably did that there aswell, because who wants to bp in st

[tall sparrow]

Is it just me or doesn’t envenom work properly with reprimande? (At least for applying mark as deathstalker) Recently started my rogue up again and my envenoms are generally really shitty unless I stack to max cp… Maybe it’s just in my head.

[humble ginkgo]

imagine a world where outlaw is viable in raid

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/exploding-star-trek-picard-boom-exploding-planet-paramount-plus-gif-21804218

[normal mist]

Bugged

[grim jay]

I always like to post zacs words

[tall sparrow]

That explains - thanks!

[grim jay]

His wisdom.

[normal mist]

IF it starts working for the DS capstone, it will be huge

[frank jetty]

Would deathstalker be OP now if we can apply the mark through garrote instead of ambush? Or would it just working properly? xD

[hoary remnant]

Total overhaul of the spec

[normal mist]

It would be less cringe, not op

[frank jetty]

100% true

[grim jay]

Probably wouldnt make too much of a difference

[tall sparrow]

Yeah that would be amazing - quite annoying right now

[tall sparrow]

Well it would feel better at least 😅 ambush feels wrong

[normal mist]

I don't have beta but even on paper, it feels wrong

[frank jetty]

I cant even imagine it - cause you need your stealth for impro garrote - how you can squish in ambushes?

[grim jay]

Idk I personally think its whatever

[normal mist]

15 enemies in front of you - ambush a single one

[grim jay]

But I can see people getting annoyed by it

[normal mist]

You have 6 seconds to improve garrote

After stealth

[grim jay]

Its 1 ambush, so one less garrote spread.

On most pull sizes probably irrelevant

[frank jetty]

ah okay yeah thats pretty irrelevant then

thx for clarifying 🙂

[tall sparrow]

Irrelevant but still bad

[frank jetty]

yeah

[grim jay]

And its even less afterwards

Because you will optimally play the capstone

Instead of the ambush

[midnight mist]

real

[grim jay]

From pack to pack

[terse orchid]

And then you lose the capstone because the boss phased

[grim jay]

Yknow whats even better?

[midnight mist]

outlaw

[grim jay]

Yeah in rare cases

[midnight mist]

[grim jay]

Patiently waiting

[rare jackal]

HOLY

[frank jetty]

But the capstone is bugged rn right?

[grim jay]

Should work just fine

Only ER is bugged

[normal mist]

The only bug is ER not working towards the pre requisites of the capstone

[grim jay]

I mean it doesnt work with capstone either

Which it kinda should

[normal mist]

Isn't that what I said? XD

Or did I explain it wrong

[grim jay]

No you said pre requsities

So I didnt take it as the capstone

[normal mist]

Pre requisites = 7cp envenom

[grim jay]

And understood it wrong

So it was my fault

[normal mist]

You good King no worries

[grim jay]

Im just too excited to read right

Those juicy buffed Auto attacks

We got

[lost pulsar]

I’m excited for that too. Reminds me of all the white damage in classic.

[grim jay]

Its honestly the talent I understand the least

But its whatever

[static glacier]

there's nothing to understand

[frank jetty]

Ah okay I see it now - saw many beta builds without ER

[static glacier]

its just extra auto dmg that ramps up fast and resets with downtime

[grim jay]

As in why its a thing.

Not how it works

[static glacier]

they don't want us to have fun

plain and simple

[grim jay]

We will see about that if they keep buffing fatal intent

Because thats the one talent I dread

If it gets strong

[static glacier]

I thought they blacklisted it

from shiv etc

[grim jay]

Can still crit, no?

Which is the worst

[static glacier]

maybe they make crits apply more stacks but the spell itself can't

would be less rng

[grim jay]

Imagine it being like 3%+ after more buffs

And it can crit

Just more variance

For no reason

[static glacier]

atleast now we have arms warrior tier rat bastard reasons for never stopping dps

I remember on raszageth my rl lost his mind bc he called a dps stop while 2nd deathmark of the fight was on her and he flamed me for not stopping dps

while arms and feral kept full on smacking the boss cus muh execute mark stacks and muh cdr on incarn

cringe

(yes, I did completely stop hitting the boss)

[lost pulsar]

If you just explain your situation to your raid leader, I’m sure he’ll understand.

[iron carbon]

Hey guys, how do you track rupture and garrote? Tracking debuff above nameplate or changing color? I can't find something confortable

[grim jay]

Debuff on nameplate with reduced clutter (disabling unnecessary debuffs)

And good nameplate spacing

[radiant raven]

Out of interest here: How do you disable the unecessary debuffs? Plater or is there a default option I'm being blind too? I've been struggling with this too.

[lost pulsar]

Have you checked WeakAuras? They are imo a very good tool for that.

[iron carbon]

I guess my spacing sucks

[iron carbon]

Only found some doing the same work than plater

[dusty yacht]

if you use plater for nameplates yeah, there's an option to blacklist spells (or a whitelist to allow only some)

[rotund oak]

u have some weird taste on torturing innocent regulars on this discord or what 😅

[solemn lance]

sup lads, got a q

why is it better to run sanguine stratagem rather than flying knives in m+

[spice surge]

Because fok doesnt do much damage

And finishers do

[solemn lance]

gotcha

[rare jackal]

it does fok all damage

[marble hemlock]

i did not expect these memes to become viable again, this truly is the darkest timeline

[earnest remnant]

bring back echoin blades

[subtle kiln]

EB U & Me 4evah

[brave gyro]

@rotund oak in shambles

[brave gyro]

That's 2 puns I see from you today.
I just wanna say I am very proud of you

[rare jackal]

the heat is frying my brain

[brave gyro]

That's why the responses have been straight 🔥

[rare jackal]

thank you

i tend to do my best work after a menthol cig and a xanax

[grim jay]

Indeed

[grim jay]

Did you find your answer?

Cevs and whispyrs have that already done

On many debuffs

[brave gyro]

Manual blacklist?

[radiant raven]

Nope. I was just curious if there was a way to do it without WA / Plater but i assume not. Makes sense, it's what I've been doing with my own personal WA's.

[smoky sequoia]

which trinkets on beta right now?

[grim jay]

Ye it probably only works with nameplate addons

[radiant raven]

Yeah - to do it with the default I had to kill the Blizz UI element with another addon. Then build my WA on top which was pretttty sloppy haha

[grim jay]

Trying to safe resources or just dont like plater?

[rotund oak]

why in shambles lul

[brave gyro]

I fixed 😄

[radiant raven]

Not a fan of Plater. I tried to set it up, and because of how I've put my own WA's together, it created a wierd conflict. I could sort it but I am a lazy man.

I have designed myself down a very silly hole and I refuse to climb out

[viscid harness]

is the plague damage from deathstalker nature school (For caustic spatter)?

[stuck knoll]

Ye

I think nature + shadow

[subtle kiln]

[vestal wren]

it is a mixed shool

its both nature and shadow

[viscid harness]

So it splashes with castic then?

[stuck knoll]

Yeah that was what was causing a lot of issues on beta

Cuz they would essentially forever loop

[viscid harness]

ahhaha wait so the splash from casutic would trigger the singular focus which would trigget caustic.... ?

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[candid hull]

no more caustic, bring back poison bomb

[viscid harness]

Alltough I guess it would mean that deathstalker isnt really good untill pretty high keys, as you would always bonk down the mark/KB target like instantly?

[crisp burrow]

I can't decide between mage and rogue

[vestal wren]

Poison is technically only a debuff type, it falls under the nature damage school

[grim jay]

You forgot the "unpopular opinion" disclaimer

[vestal wren]

but blizz takes this distinction very vague, so nature damage in general is assumed to be poison

you could in theory argue around this

[stuck knoll]

Yeah that was one of the issues with it it further highlighted a problem within assa aoe where if you ripped the main target too hard you could kill it before final kb tick

[candid hull]

it was fun seeing the explosions ...

[grim jay]

Was it fun? Yes. Was it good gameplay? No.

[viscid harness]

Kingsbane should fuction like Sudden demise

that would help a lot of it

when the damage of the next tick = hp left on mob it just blows instantly

[stuck knoll]

iirc Whispyr was also cooking about marking a different target to your kingsbane but I haven’t paid that much attention to his hero talent tc in a while so can’t remember what is and isn’t relevant now

[stuck knoll]

That would be big tbh

[viscid harness]

yeah I was just about to ask about it (reading his wowhead post from June, so I assume a lot of it is outdated)

[stuck knoll]

I assume he will do some more stuff once TWW actually drops but he’s been away in Germany for the last few weeks so

[viscid harness]

I mean he has said what many of the other good TCers say

no point in overly TCing now since they throw in changes every other hour

[subtle tundra]

he needs to feed me non-kb builds

[viscid harness]

and we're probably getting some changes in the 2 weeks before hc week, and probably before mythic release as well

[subtle tundra]

and tell me internal bleeding is good...

[vestal wren]

bugs rly ruin it, and it seems to be a general problem

[viscid harness]

Kingsbane in a choice node with a similar CD skill that applies a small version to all targets?

[stuck knoll]

Ye

[subtle tundra]

no
kb deletion

[stuck knoll]

That’s also why I’ve not bothered paying too much attention til we are closer

I’ll read all the shit once it’s a bit more stable

[viscid harness]

I was looking at the current bugs

improved garrote giving 5 cp and doing double damage

Some pretty nasty ones. Makes the shadow priest bug that idol of c'thun random aggros mobs in m+ pretty minor in comparison

[subtle tundra]

doesnt even make the talent that gives the bug worth getting

[grim jay]

Aggro bugs usually are the worst at the beginning of a patch

Because it can just wipe you

[viscid harness]

it's only in prepatch

fixed in beta, but you get the gist

It's not like mind blast is not working, or mastery not interacting with half the spells

like you guys have, from the looks of it

[grim jay]

Idk what got fixed in the last patch

But its not as bad as it sounds

[normal mist]

There have been reports of it being... Fixed? From yesterday night
I can't confirm myself since I don't have beta

@rotund oak you've been testing beta right?

[rotund oak]

ye just not raid

did only 3 bosses and that was 2 weeks ago

[normal mist]

Would you mind doing a quick test when you have the time?

[rotund oak]

ye sure whatsup

[normal mist]

The subterfuge bug + improved garrote doing +50% DMG and giving 5 cps

[rotund oak]

i think it was fixed this morning

casual said it early this morning

having like 100 msgs that gar was fixed

but ill log in 20min or so and come back at you

[normal mist]

I think so as well, but if there's someone who would rather test himself, it's you :3

[spice surge]

Ye its fixed

[swift fossil]

Does anyone have up-to-date sims for assa?

[normal mist]

We gotta update the bugs list then :3

[normal mist]

Not really no

[candid hull]

I think blizzard should buff poison bomb

[slate crown]

fixed?

[grim jay]

I think they should remove it before they buff it too much

[spice surge]

Na

[slate crown]

[candid hull]

erm.. no

what if poison bomb could trigger a poison bomb

[grim jay]

Then it would hopefully delete itself

It shouldnt ever become really strong again unless its controllable

[strange python]

With the way the game is going

[candid hull]

what if poison bomb was a combo point spender

[strange python]

With variance becoming higher through every spec

I don’t think that will happen

[last skiff]

melee love nectrotic wake?

[strange python]

Melee love no dungeon

And no dungeon love melee

[last skiff]

I hate this dungeon

everybody live mist

but necrotic

[strange python]

Even mist is dogshit for melee

[last skiff]

I die 3 times causes I didnt see cleave in necrotic ;_;

[strange python]

Well that’s something I’d call

[last skiff]

at least in mist you see it

[strange python]

What do you see in mists

[last skiff]

for my defense it was my first time in melee

[strange python]

Everything is blue

[last skiff]

XD

Do you want to speak about aoe of the first boss of grim?

[strange python]

Do you want to talk about hitboxes in grim batol?

[last skiff]

Idk I didnt pass the second boss

[oak eagle]

Do you want to talk about how shit Grim Batol is?

[strange python]

@midnight mist you got a clip for me buddy?

[rotund oak]

can confirm that garrote is fixed

👌

server lag isnt though

[lost pulsar]

I tried blacklisting the weapon poisons, but they still show up. Maybe I’m doing something wrong or it’s not working as it should. There’s always way too many buffs/debuffs on enemy nameplates with Plater. I only wish to display the essential ones, like Rupture, Garrote and the Envenom buff.

[spice surge]

You can import a profile from here if you'd like

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[dusty yacht]

I usually enable them on elvui, take the spell ID and use that on plater, once I'm done I disable them on elvui again, don't know why but sometimes the names doesn't work

[midnight mist]

Don't have a clip on hand but the dragons on grim batol are litteraly first pull

Absolute horrendous hit boxes, illegal

[subtle tundra]

couldve guessed it was him

[rotund oak]

😅

[dusky maple]

any good info i can find on playing assassination rogue?

[clever sapphire]

Similiar to that dino thats wandering around the tornado boss in nokhud?

[clever sapphire]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[clever sapphire]

Also whispyrs videos cover a lot of things

[midnight mist]

ye

the big rocky dudes in stonevault alos

are mega illegal

[clever sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/mood-gif-17749774905014521136

[midnight mist]

im out of range here

i could reach it irl

and its prolly one of the worse mob to have a small hitbox

its kinda like they did it on purpose

these other dudes are doing frontals toward random players

and the big rocky dude bumps you back, then create huge aoes

so you cant be in range ever

[clever sapphire]

Sounds like soooooo much fun

For any ranged player atleast

[midnight mist]

fun fact

ranged can out range a lot of things in here

very illegal

[clever sapphire]

So tww dungeons are gonna be like the halondrus meme all over again

Lovely

[potent monolith]

Os there any guilde or explanation where says how to use the te?

[grim jay]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[clever sapphire]

With shiv

[grim jay]

If you dont waste energy is the prioritized rule tho

[clever sapphire]

I make sure to spam the shit out of envenom in the first 6 sec of kb so that i have no energy in the last 6 sec

[grim jay]

Sounds reasonable

And probably right

[clever sapphire]

I did da math and it checks out

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-raccoon-math-math-raccoon-gif-25584730

[clever sapphire]

Is that stealthi leaked video?

[grim jay]

Its stealthi mathin the math

[clever sapphire]

Stealthi doin the theory crafting

[coral arrow]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[dusky maple]

just to clarify if im using kings bane properly, basically you get SnD & envenom on the target>shiv>DM>kings bane>shiv again(when first is off)

and caustic poison spreads it in aoe?

[coral arrow]

how important is keeping +50% energy for sanguine blades?

[spice surge]

Not at all

You dont think about it

[tiny quartz]

i think u only want 100+ energy before use kingsbane

[spice surge]

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1271660967272386601
Mentions it

(and the deathstalker one)

[coral arrow]

oh, I didn't know about that channel

I'll take a look

ty

[clever sapphire]

Snd is on you, first shiv after dm instead of before but ye thats about it

[dusky maple]

W ty

there any tips for keeping up with garrot/ruptures when there is big packs pulled? addons etc or is it just sorta hope for the best lmfao

[grim jay]

Plater

[dusky maple]

ya i got that setup whoever said u can blacklist buffs was a god send

[midnight atlas]

plater or luxthos WA, it tracks how many garrotes and ruptures you have on

[grim jay]

You dont care too much about garrotes after your opener on aoe or if you vanish, but you see how many ruptures you have out by your scent stacks anyways

[dusky maple]

is there like a # where trying to OCD spread the garrotes/ruptures is pointless

[midnight atlas]

different strokes for different folks, i dont track scent stacks for example

[midnight atlas]

if you lose dps trying to satisfy your ocd its bad

[clever sapphire]

Enough to upkeep your energy

[grim jay]

You wanna spread garrotes with IC and keep up enough ruptures to either max in energy or if you play with scent you wanna max scent stacks

[clever sapphire]

My general rule of thumb is spreading during IC, after that i rupture when shit starts running out and if a bigger mob lost garrote i regarrote it

[dusky maple]

ok tyty what i was looking for

[tiny quartz]

erm i just check the talents for mythic+ hyp and we dont play with double shiv talent?

[clever sapphire]

I think its mentioned in the deathstalker thread

But ye you dont take double shiv so you can get IW

[marsh zinc]

If I open a pack and let's say it's a bit hectic like the first pull in nw do I just double garrote and rupture 1 (the big) target or do I tab and get 1 more target with bleeds but loose the pandemic time on the main target?

[tiny quartz]

u can make mouseover garrot and rupture

[marsh zinc]

Wow 🙈

That's a very good point

[tiny quartz]

the only issue without acrobat now is that u have to be close to both targets for mouseover

[tough gorge]

Seeing the 3 mythic+ builds, seems like the cleave build will be irrelevant in tww, maybe im wrong, CT is way too strong to drop even in high keys.

[rain mortar]

Dunno for sure - but I’ll tell you any build without SBS feels bad to me

[royal lantern]

just wait until some guy in a very very very highly optimized group with communication uses it because they needed a bit more ST dmg for 1 specific dungeon

and then the "m+ community" will show once again that they have no working braincells and copy pastes it everywhere while repeating "only st dmg matters"

[spice surge]

Obviously that build also doesnt run iron wire

Because iron wire aint damage

(this is satire, please never skip iron wire for 0.4% sim dps)

[vestal wren]

how much is enough dps gain to skip iron wire?

[past forum]

I really wish they would just put it where you can’t avoid it for aoe pathing. Seeing random ass rogues drop it for piddly damage when I’m doing random alt keys fills me with rage

Like i get unreasonably mad

[spice surge]

Think it depends on the dungeon, a dungeon with a lot of casters its pretty high

If theres no casters and your tank is never in any danger from melee hits at the start of a pull then maybe it would be fine

[clever sapphire]

But the tank doesnt let me restealth anyways so who needs IW

[clever sapphire]

If its 6 targets i care enough to tab to the targets without gar/rupture

Anything above i just spam it on my main target

And call it a day

Like academy first pull

You can forget about optimal spreading

Okay note to self, tips wont sound reliable if you say IW is worthless one message before

[mighty kiln]

is there a link with sims?

[spice surge]

The pins with the thread has the most up to date info

[fading ocean]

0% copium here

[normal mist]

Idk who that is but he's just fishing for views

[midnight atlas]

a week ago - rogue sucks in tww. 3 days ago - rogue is pumping

[normal mist]

Yeah amazing isn't it

[midnight atlas]

finally some gigachad tierlists

[fading ocean]

well hes obviously trolling a bit he wants assassination to be good

[clever sapphire]

Sp so good, it went into a tier twice

[potent raven]

when was it not good

[vestal wren]

can't beat my one

[potent raven]

i wanna be good

fury is really good

arms got nerfed a lot on st too

[fading ocean]

telling u guys WW is secretly op

[clever sapphire]

Agree

[potent raven]

id replace arms with fury there tho

[fading ocean]

shadopan is overtuned

[potent raven]

lolol

[fading ocean]

and they just got SCK buffed

[midnight atlas]

i only play fire mage and rogue so i dont care

[spice surge]

Fuu tierlist is always accurate

[clever sapphire]

Blizzard wont let firemage be shit so you are covered for tww

[spice surge]

No other tierlist can say the same thing

[potent raven]

oh

[midnight atlas]

i will troll by not playing arcane, but fire feels better

[clever sapphire]

I realised that i cant play ranged

[white lance]

We need a tier list of the tier lists so we know which tier list to trust

[clever sapphire]

Its just too chill and my brain dozes off

[uneven plume]

S tier should be sp mage and aug

That’s it

Everything else can be d tier

[clever sapphire]

I mean you wont get any more accurate than fuu

[spice surge]

Lil bro is stuck in dragonflight

[cold remnant]

I just got garrote skill !

[potent raven]

its melee season bro

no more sp mage aug bullshit

[clever sapphire]

@vestal wren you should also make a hero tree tierlist

[uneven plume]

It’s melee season every season

Till it’s not

[potent raven]

nah this season is our season.

[vestal wren]

haha, thought the same

[spring stream]

hahaha

[clever sapphire]

I wouldnt get it tho, i only know our hero trees

[tiny quartz]

cmon put law into S too

[bitter trout]

[cold remnant]

How do I organize my tool bars without the spell book open ?

[potent raven]

wot

[clever sapphire]

Law should have a tier under dont like it called "unplayable without acro"

[midnight atlas]

i didnt have time to play outlaw in the last 2 xpacs so i like it but i dont play it very well, thats why its in A

[clever sapphire]

Uhm if you mean dragging spells around im pretty sure its holding left shift and then you can drag stuff

[tiny quartz]

i really wanna buy a mythic+ s like s2 bfa with 3law combo or monk 2law

[cold remnant]

Oh thanks @clever sapphire

[potent raven]

np

[subtle tundra]

Horrible thought, of course an outlaw would say that

[sharp viper]

what is assa apm looking like on the beta patch? any prelim sim information on that?

[normal mist]

We are still the same slow boys of the pack

[midnight atlas]

its so chill even during cds.

[shy dust]

Outlaw players when they have to play at the same melee range as most other specs

[midnight atlas]

acro was nice on all 3 specs

[potent raven]

u can spam envenom and pretend its bte

[normal mist]

True

[spice surge]

Both assa and sub are really slow, outlaw goes at 300 kmh as per usual.

Exact figures depends a bit on exactly what talents ends up the best

[midnight atlas]

might try to tank this xpac. i'll help the fellow assa rogues get restealths

[subtle tundra]

Considering the average new person coming here I ain't inviting assa if I'm a tank

[midnight atlas]

since i played so much rogue you can imagine i very very rarely got the chance to do keys with a fellow rogue player

all i hear from friends when they do keys without me is that "oh man that rogue was shit" never inviting other rogues

[subtle tundra]

Usually hear that when I'm the rogue

[safe wigeon]

how many bugs get fixed in last updates?

[midnight atlas]

around 3.5

[native seal]

Question, do you apply/keep up crimson tempest in ST in keys as assasination? or is it only worth to use in aoe situations

[midnight atlas]

nah

[royal lantern]

you dont touch CT in ST

[spice surge]

It does more damage the more target there is

[royal lantern]

its only worth it on 3-4 targets or more

[spice surge]

So no, it does pitiful damage on ST

[royal lantern]

on 1-2 targets you ignore CT existing

[safe wigeon]

evenom<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<CT

[spice spire]

But what if clear the witness for fok AND CT

[spice surge]

Ill clear the witnesses before what ill do to you buddy

[native seal]

i suppose you only apply and then keep up CT instead of dumping/spamming all your combo points into it right? not like Primal wrath in feral

[spice spire]

[royal lantern]

clapping his cheeks until you make it quake?

[spice surge]

Yes, CT does no damage when you press it

[spice spire]

[spice surge]

So you only refresh it when the dot is in pandemic/running out

[slate crown]

[spice spire]

It’s cute that you think I’d ever be a bottom

[royal lantern]

keep CT running and then you do ST dmg to cleave trought Caustic Spatter and re-apply CT when it runs out

and ofc keep bleeds on priority targets so you have energy saturation

[urban anvil]

What bugs was fixed?

[native seal]

Thanks, you do use fan of knives instead of mutilate to generate CP in aoe right?

[royal lantern]

ye, at ~4targets you use FoK

and mut only to apply Caustic spatter

[spice surge]

Subterfuge giving essentially a second improved garrote

Nothing else afaik

[urban anvil]

Oh

Has it been like that all beta?

[spice surge]

No

for like a week max

[urban anvil]

Ah okay

[ebon notch]

Wtf

I’m sniping your groups

On god

[rotund oak]

bro put sin S tier

[humble sky]

Why?

[vestal wren]

took longer than i thought but here we go -> #assassination message

[bronze marsh]

based

[bleak ledge]

they really did do a good job on the hero talent artwork

[tender sparrow]

Was just thinking that I hope they redo base ones

[midnight atlas]

looks really cool the problem is i dont know which one is which

[bronze marsh]

sounds like most tier list makers

[vestal wren]

re-uploaded. I removed the controls

[subtle tundra]

I don't want to be rude, let's just say I prefer timing keys

[vestal wren]

looks cleaner

[subtle tundra]

Thank God I never pug

[humble sky]

Interesting take, I think sin is fine

[subtle tundra]

Assa always has been fine, I don't trust the players

I'd rather invite an outlaw

😘

[ebon notch]

Cap

I’ve met you in keys

I think

[cold remnant]

Is there a good dagger other then expeditionary dagger

Lvl 17

[humble sky]

Outlaw kinda dog rn

[urban saddle]

Is there a way to blacklist debuffs with plater? I really don't need to see the crippling poison, too much clutter.

[normal mist]

retail or classic / sod?

[bronze marsh]

pretty sure there's a blacklist you can set

[subtle tundra]

Maybe in sl but I was still mostly playing pre-made

Cryve groups went hard

[scenic nacelle]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[subtle tundra]

Didn't mean just for current tuning, I meant as a general rule

[bronze marsh]

just add whatever to Add Debuff to Blacklist

[subtle tundra]

I dont trust assa players, they are mostly chasing the hype and barely know how to play in m+

[worldly sail]

thats all players in wow

[subtle tundra]

Outlaw players play it for m+ specifically and have more experience

So not really

I'd argue the average pug outlaw is better than the average pug assa

And I mean average not the pushers

[ebon notch]

Yeah into the floor

Mans turbo washed

I’ve never seen so many clips of one person depleting keys

[humble sky]

So you are just being racist, got it

[normal mist]

more like classist

[humble sky]

Fr

[subtle tundra]

Idk why you have to spew such thinga

?? Calling me a racist for no reason

You don't know me

You're just saying shit

[humble sky]

I said you are being racist on the subject

[subtle tundra]

????

[humble sky]

Also it was a joke obviously

Everyone can do what they want

Smh

[subtle tundra]

Idk I'm not taking that as a joke

Calling me a racist on a public server isn't ok

[humble sky]

Okay then, go cry, idk what to tell you

[subtle tundra]

ok yea sure let's have false accusations

[humble sky]

Can bro chill? I said I'm joking. Whether you like it or not

[subtle tundra]

If I had ignored it you wouldn't have said it was a joke

[humble sky]

Whatever bro, ain't continuing this.

[midnight mist]

Why did you get beefed on in outlaw

Just to come here to also get beef

[humble sky]

I just asked why bro won't inv assa