assassination

[keen mantle]

Hold it for 2mins or what

[balmy condor]

yah

[royal lantern]

common sub L

[keen mantle]

so im cooked that im using pvp trinket?

i thought i have no better option

[balmy condor]

yes

[keen mantle]

haha

[quaint haven]

13k mainstat

[balmy condor]

transmitter > grim batol > most passive raid trinkets > pvp trink

but I think realistically

you just always grim batol

[quaint haven]

is there a link to trinket sims

[royal lantern]

its the ashes vs branch situation huh

aka "1 of SLIGHTLY weaker, but the other one is annoying to use"

[subtle tundra]

I'd rather not have to farm a dungeon for a trinket so I'll just say it's bis from raid

Ty

[balmy condor]

nah I ran it like last week but transmitter and grim batol are the only real decision for bis

[quaint haven]

so one of those and then mercurial egg as passive mayb or

empowering crystal

[balmy condor]

this thing

[quaint haven]

something like that

[balmy condor]

is real good

[royal lantern]

[balmy condor]

for the second slot

[royal lantern]

ITS BFA TIME AGAIN BOYS

[shy pecan]

[balmy condor]

but yeah as a full passive you'd play egg probably

[royal lantern]

is egg the "dont move" one?

wait thats an active

[balmy condor]

trinkets/consumables/enchants/embellishments in general seem really weird though

I'm expecting tuning on a lot of it

[quaint haven]

egg is dont move or move

[balmy condor]

that's an active

[subtle tundra]

I will farm siege for it

[spice surge]

In general the second trinket has like 8 options

[balmy condor]

the other egg

[subtle tundra]

Goated dungeon

[spice surge]

Thats all roughly the same

[quaint haven]

oh

[balmy condor]

yeah like eleem said though

you can kinda just use whatever trinket in slot 2

[keen mantle]

that egg?

[balmy condor]

yah that one

pretty gud

[keen mantle]

is it rly?

ill use that to check it out

so im gonna have 2 trinkets that give no main stat

[royal lantern]

eh, i mean it reads good?

[balmy condor]

it got nerfed but it's still pretty okay

[keen mantle]

i feel cooked

[royal lantern]

haste statstick + agility proc + dmg proc

[spice surge]

That egg, the crystal, the void reaper, the other egg or the edict are all pretty much the same

[royal lantern]

idk

looks good

[quaint haven]

empowering crystal speaks to my feelings

[balmy condor]

I think 1 more day of cooking and then big beta info pin and video

and then guide writinng hell

[quaint haven]

[royal lantern]

you are a crystal girl?

[quaint haven]

ye

crystal tat tramp stamp and all

[balmy condor]

what's your birthstone babe

[quaint haven]

asparagus

[subtle kiln]

So bug fixes all hit next Tuesday?

[keen mantle]

If you need any M+ info whispyr lmk , im playing assa 10 hours a day in beta

[balmy condor]

yeah the moment I solidify my recommendations and stuff they're gonna tune half the talents and fix all the bugs

[keen mantle]

im cooked

[balmy condor]

yeah I'll dm you

I have a couple of ideas I need to check in sims

might need some logs if you have some

[keen mantle]

i kinda only log retail

not beta

[balmy condor]

unlucky

that's fine

[slim hamlet]

Owned

[subtle kiln]

We’re going to need you to redo all you beta dungeons with log running.

[balmy condor]

Every single one

[keen mantle]

with every build

[slim hamlet]

And then do it again after

[keen mantle]

with every talent

with every gear

[subtle kiln]

chop chop

[keen mantle]

every race

[slim hamlet]

That also includes the "spread doomblade in aoe" build btw

[quaint haven]

also gotta let us know best rogue comp so gotta try them all too

[balmy condor]

Yeah I’ll send you a top gear with 400 builds, one per dungeon please from the top down

[spice surge]

No capstone gaming

[slim hamlet]

LOGIN

[balmy condor]

Nah I killed that

[keen mantle]

I would be interested for some sim cooks after you do them.

The promising ones on aoe+st ofc

[balmy condor]

Well, it died out on its own

[spice surge]

Oof

[balmy condor]

I didn’t particularly do anything to it

But it died

[spice surge]

Youre killing my VV dreams too

[slim hamlet]

Thank god

[keen mantle]

also this is the best talent assa would wish for

in high keys life could be rough

but this talent is op

[slim hamlet]

It's so huge

Off gcd 20% reducton in itself

[balmy condor]

Yah it’s real good

[slim hamlet]

And then it's on 2 different ones

that already do defensive stuff beforehand

[keen mantle]

i mean pressing evasion with elusiveness

will be huge

[slim hamlet]

Isn't elusiveness fully bugged right now

[keen mantle]

ye i mean in a proper world

of no bugs

[slim hamlet]

Damn

So I guess we will never know

[pure sparrow]

That talent node is like the best talent in the game, but also lowkey overrated for rogue

You already never die when you’re running elusiveness in high keys anyway

[spice surge]

You definitely do, esp as assa

20% aint enough a lot of the time

[slim hamlet]

Definitely depends on what you count as high keys

[pure sparrow]

You have elusiveness feint for like every single damage event that could kill you

[fast field]

Are there any good trinkets for assa in beta?

[spice surge]

Well ye, the problem is when things kill you through elusiveness

[keen mantle]

20 is never enought]

on a magical debuff

on a super high key

[royal lantern]

just be mage

and stack 30 different 20% effects 😄

[hexed cairn]

is assassination the best dot spec in the game in beta?

[normal mist]

i'd say affliction

they have more dots

[balmy condor]

depends what best is I guess

[normal mist]

Well if more = better, affliction wins by default!

[balmy condor]

true

[rotund oak]

ild say UHDK but UH is both a summoner and dot dmg

[normal mist]

actually, i can't recall when was the last time i played warlock

[balmy condor]

I think feral is despairing a bit

[normal mist]

oh right i killed 2 mythic bosses during nyalotha as a warlock

[balmy condor]

is the latest spriest rework trash

they keep doing good and then getting rid of it

[hoary remnant]

But shouldn't fatebound do more overall?

[lime crypt]

so like if i understand it correctly, we wont get any new skill or anything, just a bunch of talents that does something when certain criterias match?

[normal mist]

you will

[balmy condor]

they're about the same

[normal mist]

with deathstalker

the skill to cry

[balmy condor]

yeah, there's min-maxes for each tree and you have to track some buffs for deathstalker, otherwise passive

[hexed cairn]

aff still has MR and SP can't receive a decent buff

[normal mist]

honest answer, yeah, no new skills for us afaik other than buffs

[hexed cairn]

imagine playing archon with halo

[lime crypt]

so its essentially worse than what we are getting every dlc?

[hoary remnant]

Ty

[hoary remnant]

I played all 10 keys with it today and deathstalker after subterfuge works now from vanilla stealth and fixed in the sense you can use stealth abilities is super fine.

[hexed cairn]

how are we suppose to play without shadow dance in m+?

[runic hinge]

feels pretty fun rn but they doom over there hard so idk what community consensus is

[normal mist]

just without it

[hoary remnant]

You don't need dance. You can play double vanish and spread super fast bleeds in mass aoe situations

[hexed cairn]

like if your tank chain pulls and you don't have vanish what's the move? crying?

[normal mist]

no

you stay happy

[past forum]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• You can add in some sanguine/rupture value from carnage, but chaining allows for higher uptime and smoother energy overall, eliminating a lot of ramp at the start of a pull
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths (chain heavy spiteful weeks are only about -30% on stealths)
• You still have vanish which gives you plenty of options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[normal mist]

with a lot of scent stacks

[hoary remnant]

Get a better tank

[hexed cairn]

ahahha make sense

[hoary remnant]

No joke good tank does chain but you can still get back into stealth

[tawny geyser]

Why are we not Shadow Dancing anymore with KB?

[past forum]

good tanks do chain pull, and its good for you cause you can use the garrotes/ruptures you already have out to give you resources. if they're chain pulling with 1 mob alive that dies as the next pull starts then thats a bad chain pull but tbh that's not what anyone wants to see

[normal mist]

because...

we don't have it anymore

It went back to being a SUB only ability

[tawny geyser]

Jesus...

[lime crypt]

good change tbh

[runic hinge]

I don't have trouble with restealths #nelfgang

[lime crypt]

atleast it makes more sense

from rp perspective

[hoary remnant]

No nightstalker

[lime crypt]

they couldve given us something good in return tho lmao

[normal mist]

They did

more freedom

you can now use vanish however you like in m+

instead of the "last 3 seconds of KB"

[hoary remnant]

Also sbs rework is so nice!

Can't play without it anymore

[balmy condor]

It’s looking really strong as well

[hoary remnant]

Just feeling wise after playing both deathstalker and fatebound a lot, they seem to be on par. Deathstalker is just easier to play when having downtime like dawnbreaker.
What do sims say?

[shy pecan]

Yeah, the damage isn't terrible plus all the combo points you gain/energy saved is really nice

[balmy condor]

Sims say fatebound damage is spread more evenly, deathstalker prios harder, overall very similar

So like low keys i think fatebound is great especially for newer players

Deathstalker getting some nebulous extra value for high keys for the single target

[hoary remnant]

After the fix to subterfuge deathstalker go also easier to play.

[somber hawk]

What s the fix to it ?

[hoary remnant]

You can actually use stealth abilities in subterfuge window

So you can garrote ambush to apply your mark

[candid hull]

can we bring back poison bomb

[somber hawk]

thanks

[jade crescent]

Does anyone know of a good plater profile for tracking our DoTs? Particularly garrote/rupture. Something that changes color for 1 dot and then a different color when both dots are applied? Management in M+ is a bit difficult with default UI.

[hoary remnant]

Wdym? We play it

[hoary remnant]

I send you one per dm

[strange python]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[shy pecan]

Cev's should give you dot tracking

[jade crescent]

You guys are gamers great, appreciate it!

[pure sparrow]

do not bring back poison bomb

[royal lantern]

you dont just go around and call people the G word

[pure sparrow]

leave it in hell like it is now

[royal lantern]

???????????????????????

PB is in the game since legion lol

[jade crescent]

Fixed it for you ❤️

[hoary remnant]

Wdym it's in the game

[pure sparrow]

yeah obv

[hoary remnant]

Like it's a capstone

[pure sparrow]

i thought we meant bring it back to when it was literally everything in legion

which is the only "bring it back" that makes sense for an ability still in the game

[royal lantern]

ofc that doesnt happen lol

[pure sparrow]

since it does literlaly nothing now

[royal lantern]

PB is a neat side proc for a long time now

[thin kernel]

Another plater question, cus why not, can target overlay textures be used for dot tracking like colors can be?

[hoary remnant]

Nah sin has imo the most versatile talent tree of all 3 specs

[raven egret]

poor poison bomb is too disruptive visually, it distracted from seeing the Coin flips

[final star]

bring back OP pb

[pure sparrow]

nope

[runic hinge]

based

[final star]

@trail locust

[velvet ridge]

I can't read good, are these patch notes good?

[spice surge]

Nothing new in them

Same things thats been applied to the beta already

[raven egret]

they aint really patch notes, its another summary of stuff that was already done, there might be a few new lines here and there. Just Blizz confusing everyone with the way they communicate these

[trail locust]

Heard assassinarion is super good and my guild asked me to reroll to ass assination rouge any tips for first time add ass ination plater

@final star

[final star]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[pure sparrow]

wowhead guide is v good

[final star]

@trail locust

[shy pecan]

Yeah. be better than those Kieron and daps guys

[trail locust]

Oh that won't be hard

ThoSe guys suck

[shy pecan]

And especially that zac guy

[trail locust]

No zac is the best

[shy pecan]

Oh.

RIP

[velvet ridge]

I just color things differently if they have garrote, rupture, then green if my caustic spatter target, focus on kingsbane so I can find him easily

[raven egret]

who dat be

[trail locust]

Jk he plays utlaw

[raven egret]

[final star]

Imagine doing all that tc for Outlaw just to be benched 😔

impactful spec tc

[spice surge]

Theorycrafting the optimal bench

[shy pecan]

You were about to drop on the favorite advance person tier list there…

[trail locust]

Phew close call

[trail locust]

Thanks man appreciate it

Heard this place was really nice especially when @limber lion was helping everyone

[candid hull]

buff poison bomb

[grim jay]

no thanks

[candid hull]

yes

[grim jay]

we had that part of the story in legion

[candid hull]

it was FUN

[grim jay]

I doubt anyone that experienced it really wants it back

even if it was fun

[final star]

it owned

[trail locust]

But kieron what if you didnt proc the poison bomb

[shy pecan]

[final star]

[runic hinge]

skill issue

[trail locust]

[royal lantern]

play better

[trail locust]

This is bullying

[spice spire]

No he’s right

It’s a skill issue

[normal mist]

[shy pecan]

Very much bullying

[runic hinge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[balmy condor]

Kreem showing up to be cringe again

[midnight mist]

wtf kreem

[trail locust]

Holy shit

Mb zac

[midnight mist]

its fine ..

[trail locust]

I didnt think would get caught

: )

[shy pecan]

[royal lantern]

dont worry

no acro

he cant reach you

[midnight mist]

[trail locust]

Nice

[midnight mist]

tryan

one day i will get you

[royal lantern]

:3

hugs, right?

[trail locust]

UwU

[shy pecan]

#1080572530554835072

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/yourarchivist-black-cat-orange-cat-black-cat-and-orange-cat-cat-cuddle-gif-11630674910872813960

[spice spire]

Whatcha getting him

[runic hinge]

hope its a smooch

[midnight mist]

nuh uh !

[unborn wharf]

on the first pull of a dungeon / if you dont have snd where do you guys put it in ur openers for aoe? I feel like I want every gcd to be for spreading bleeds with IC and then I wanna do cooldowns asap rocky style and i just dont know where to put it. how wrong is it to basically ignore it until after coolowns

[royal lantern]

just eat it up and use it

its the first pull

people use 20 cds anyway and shit explodes

[unborn wharf]

ok

[royal lantern]

guys, i did it

i dont press garrote after using KB anymore

[runic hinge]

blesss

[haughty flicker]

huge

[balmy condor]

Launch patch

[brittle quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/big-head-little-arms-trex-tyrannosaurus-dinosaur-gif-3412715

This what acro strikes feels like now T_T

[balmy condor]

I don’t notice acro diff

[haughty flicker]

i do feel like i need a range wa

but i also probably shouldve had one to begin with

[naive bay]

Do we know the best trinkets for WW Beta?

[strange python]

why suddenly assa is pumping in keys?

[inner swift]

dunno about beta but we used to play deadeye spyglass in bfa , so it maybe still viable

[balmy condor]

Transmitter/grim batol for first slot and like basically any passive trinket for slot 2

[balmy condor]

Yeh bis in single target

[balmy condor]

Got a 15% buff 8 days ago

[naive bay]

Thanks

[inner swift]

that means no good for m+ as the second choice or we can still rock it

[balmy condor]

Can still use it

That second slot is super whatever

[inner swift]

in that case imma use that cause it bring back memories if you know XD

[strange python]

maybe im wrong but i dont think that's enough to be performing like a warlock

[royal lantern]

wdym, EVERYTHING is working perfectly

[inner swift]

the bugs help too i assume

[balmy condor]

Okay my bad then

[naive bay]

@strange python you talking about DF?

[balmy condor]

There’s some bad some good

[strange python]

beta

[runic hinge]

warlock should just be better apparently xd

[inner swift]

dunno if you answered this already but if in a unlikely scenario all the bugs get fixed, will we win or lose

[strange python]

what bug are u talking about?

[hexed frost]

Does subterfuge even interact with Assa aside from extra ambush?

[runic hinge]

current bug

[hexed frost]

Like why does it even ezist

[runic hinge]

no, that's why double vanish is bad

[balmy condor]

Probably lose

[hexed frost]

So we playing double vanish tree now for exploiting this bug?

[balmy condor]

No

[lethal jungle]

Does Rogue feel bad in TWW?

[runic hinge]

i mean if you wanna play it on beta sure but it'll more than likely be fixed so why bother

[runic hinge]

feels good man

[balmy condor]

It’s not worth it even lmao

[lethal jungle]

🙂

[hexed frost]

Hmmm

[inner swift]

this the build i see people play so dunno what you mean by double vanish not being good

[normal mist]

xD

[hexed frost]

Demise without zoldyk and AP?

https://tenor.com/view/huh-verne-over-the-hedge-turtle-disbelief-gif-24744867

[balmy condor]

XD

Zero critical thinking skills

There’s a couple of negative bugs, couple of positive ones

Overall maybe like a percent or two loss when everything gets fixed

[marsh mortar]

I use the import button from wowhead build.....

[balmy condor]

Did it explode

[marsh mortar]

#originalthoughts

[normal mist]

I mean wowhead explains WHY the talent trees work and which playstyle they fit better

[balmy condor]

Yeah but there’s no build on wowhead that takes double vanish

[normal mist]

bad whispyr is bad

[balmy condor]

[marsh mortar]

Something about the build just whispers dps tips to me

[balmy condor]

[grim jay]

[silk bane]

shots fired

[inner swift]

like i said " i have seen people play this"

not like im telling you to play this cuz its better than the other builds

[grim jay]

and we sure as hell know who you saw

[inner swift]

you sure do

D:

[grand trail]

everyone played it

[grim jay]

tho its just barely standing on a broken leg due to bugs

and even then

is worse

and we just like to point that out

so people dont pick it up because it got mentioned

expecting it to be THE build

[runic hinge]

People really would rather waste 4 talent points than play ER and that might say something

[grim jay]

can just play cb

[grand trail]

well if ER wasnt bugged

i would play it

i play it with fatebound but i dont play that hero tree much

[runic hinge]

Er is bugged to be bad and subterfuge is bugged to be good so I can see why it happens

[grand trail]

i played CB too

but sub brain refuse to use CB manually

[grim jay]

but you dont need to

what

[runic hinge]

You might if you play fatebound

[grim jay]

last thing I saw was whispyr saying nono

just macro

barely a diff

[runic hinge]

Don’t wanna mess your flips

[balmy condor]

It’s like 0.3% to manually cast and avoid wasting edge case

[runic hinge]

I said might

[grand trail]

yeah but wiuth DS

nigh buff is crit always

[grim jay]

[balmy condor]

With ds you just macro to mut and fok

[grand trail]

shees

that sound very sad

[stable coral]

Quick question, is it just me or is assa aoe/m+ insanely difficult?

[balmy condor]

You could technically just hold for an envenom or something

But that’s a ton of effort for like 100 dps

[balmy condor]

Yes

[grim jay]

its much if you are new, gotta get used to stuff

one by one

[grand trail]

is there some tech behind that DS, CB the mut?

[balmy condor]

More combo points and damage yep

[stable coral]

thank you, that confirmation helped

[subtle kiln]

He’s just making you feel good.

[grim jay]

the real question is, when do we start playing ER with reverberation + CB and CB the ER

[inner swift]

true but for me, i dont like ER in general so

[balmy condor]

Never

[grim jay]

but even then it aint the better build

because then its cb

[rotund oak]

CB on mut for cps is more dmg than cb+er/reverb

envenom does like 750k dmg

reverb does like 250k

[subtle kiln]

CB took over with the buffs on beta yeah? Still ass on prepatch

[rotund oak]

im testing it on campaign rn

its solid

[inner swift]

welp if thats the case, as long as it aint ER im good, also, does CB work with kingsbane?

[balmy condor]

Cb doesn’t work with dots

[grim jay]

idk about that

[rotund oak]

i do for us dw 😛

[inner swift]

even the initial hit from it?

[balmy condor]

Initial works I think but it’s not worth holding for

You just lose casts

[grim jay]

if you compare er to mut, er has like thrice the multiplier without reverb for 1 more combopoint in muts favor

[last skiff]

Any beta player can tell me how much they do dps for like 4m?

[rotund oak]

it just goes down to how much more dmg u do by pressing it with mut

envenom rly hits hard in TWW

its not a joke

[grim jay]

yeah and the kb initial is rather meh

[rotund oak]

its fine,ild say it rather to the stronger side

as an initial hit

[grim jay]

yeah but not compared to envenom or the other big hitters

[rotund oak]

yeah envenom hits hard

[grim jay]

the initial kb hit hits as hard as sbs

if you just look at the baseline multiplier

[rotund oak]

i dont think so,kb hits harder but anyway

whatever

[grim jay]

kb has 130.9 and sbs has 132

it just has different things affecting the damage

potentially

good ol flynn

[runic hinge]

Ayo spoilers

[rotund oak]

sry

[grim jay]

you know what a spoiler is

hes mathias shaws lover

[rotund oak]

okok sry i jsut deleted it

[runic hinge]

That’s old news

[rotund oak]

i respect that

[grim jay]

dang tony knows his lore

but did you know

his parrot is named after mathias?

[rotund oak]

bro is pulling out the big guns here

[grim jay]

gotta do that if the people are well versed in the lore

[royal lantern]

👋

[balmy condor]

CB just comes down do you want to manually cast and min max and MAYBE get like 0.5, 0.6% out of it in perfect conditions

Or do you just slam it into a macro and live your life

[manic harness]

slam it on a macro and live my life

hi whispy<3

[balmy condor]

Damn right

Hello

[manic harness]

So no more ER? Cause if so WE ARE SO BACK BABY

[rotund oak]

do we have an apl btw that validates the cb+mutilate claim being the best

[inner swift]

this is like my fave build to play atm, you gonna say some slurrs about this one too or its ok?XD
CMQA27SZpS4XnmFfcXRqkppuwPMzMzMmBDAAAAAAzygtZAAAAAAotNzMmZmBzMzysMGjxYMzMzMmZzyYGAAAAAAAD

[balmy condor]

Fatebound plays cold blood

[blazing plaza]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[balmy condor]

It’s not the best I just said so

You could macro it into envenom as well

Doesn’t really matter

[rotund oak]

[manic harness]

Interesting, I fucking despise ER, so I'd be happy for any option that doesn't utilize it. Just saw patch notes and I'm still at work so I haven't been staring at Discord

[rotund oak]

okok cool stuff

[balmy condor]

Best will always be manual casting

[manic harness]

Anyway, love yall, bbl

[rotund oak]

hugs

[balmy condor]

:3

[tawny junco]

How can ppl hate ER

[rotund oak]

[tawny junco]

It’s just a win-win situation

[rotund oak]

i love ER

its a press button do dmg button

gives charged cp

good stuff

[haughty flicker]

i dont feel strongly one way or another about it

[rotund oak]

[haughty flicker]

its just a button

[silk bane]

sorry pls take your :3 to #1080572530554835072 ty

[inner swift]

did you play kyrian in SL?

[tawny junco]

I mean, if you’re that lazy you can even macro it to mutilate and it would be fine most of cases

At least in St

[royal lantern]

?????

[rotund oak]

gonna torture whispyr for that apl now

[royal lantern]

you cant????

[rotund oak]

need to try and replicate it for maximum gains

[haughty flicker]

this isnt shadowlands

i loved it as part of kyrian shadowdust outlaw

but now its just a button

[grim jay]

I mean

no sudden demise and scent

[balmy condor]

For what

[grim jay]

but if it suits you, why not

but dont let whispyr see that it has no iron wire

[inner swift]

XD

[balmy condor]

I mean no iron wire no scent is already kinda xdd

But it is what it is

[runic hinge]

No iron wire should be ban worthy

[balmy condor]

I can’t stop people from playing what they want

Nor would I want to

If it’s fun then they’re getting their moneys worth

I’m just here to tell people how to play better, I can’t tell them how to have more fun

[rotund oak]

just learn what is the most optimal routine,cast by cast

for maximum gains

[balmy condor]

???

Surely you’re mot that dumb

[rotund oak]

u are overestimating me

😄

[violet jackal]

It’s your $15 a month you do with it as you please

[bronze pike]

:3

[runic hinge]

:3

[silk bane]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-cat-funny-smite-gif-17567204071102087896

[rotund oak]

wait,new update doing live next reset,whats going on

[balmy condor]

Doesn’t the announcement say exactly what’s going on?

[grim jay]

atleast the wowhead post

[rotund oak]

going live on august 13nth

[deep arch]

isn't it just the launch patch that the expansion will be on

nothing special

[rotund oak]

14nth for eu

[balmy condor]

Correct

[deep arch]

its just the launch patch no?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[rotund oak]

yeah

[desert cove]

Yeah it’s all just stuff we already know

[deep arch]

getting ready for the expansion

[rotund oak]

just noticed

[balmy condor]

Sap just struggles to read

[rotund oak]

[grim jay]

I swear he changed since he became a sub regular

[desert cove]

Listen we play rogue, we canonically can’t read

[rotund oak]

[desert cove]

[rotund oak]

the most important change

[inner swift]

aint it a bit hard to survive without tott?

[rotund oak]

Kidney Shot duration has been increased to a maximum of 8 seconds (was 6 seconds maximum). Does not affect PvP combat

[balmy condor]

What

[cerulean walrus]

We love shooting kidneys

[desert cove]

Yeah but it got cd nerfed to 30s

[grim jay]

now they only need to make it usable on bosses

[inner swift]

you takin black jack instead of tricks

[balmy condor]

Yeah tricks does nothing

[rotund oak]

[balmy condor]

Why would you die without tricks

[desert cove]

Tricks is nice for pugging

[grim jay]

unmatched raid utility, just like that

[cerulean walrus]

Bro if you’re dying without tricks that’s a you problem

[desert cove]

Pug tanks can’t be trusted

[cerulean walrus]

[lucid rune]

Sin rogue pumping in the beta?

[cerulean walrus]

They’re fine

[rotund oak]

im gonna take that for m+ tbh,mofos dying to random stuff from untanked mobs all the time

kidney that,save a life

[grim jay]

shoot a kidney, save a life

[cerulean walrus]

That’s right

[grim jay]

sounds like some bronx thing

[cerulean walrus]

We’re fighting the good fight

Kidney Shooters rise up

[rotund oak]

The King Rogue

[desert cove]

Cursed idea incoming

[runic hinge]

Even more aura buffs Tuesday and I can start saying “kidney on cd” all the time because it’s longer cd.

[cerulean walrus]

Please keep it to yourself then

[runic hinge]

I won’t ever cast kidney

[desert cove]

Kidney shot is now aoe but it uses the KS animation

[runic hinge]

Dps loss

[cerulean walrus]

It uses the kidney shot animation?

[grim jay]

honestly you wouldnt be able to imagine the amount of kidney shots you would get for that

[rotund oak]

someone silence this man,he dreams of killing spree animations

[cerulean walrus]

No no

KS

Kidney Shot

[desert cove]

I raided raszegeth once with killing spree

I will forever be haunted

[rotund oak]

madman

[grim jay]

KS is Kansas

I think

[cerulean walrus]

Oh yeah

True

It’ll use the Kansas animation

[balmy condor]

Aoe corn shooter

[rotund oak]

Is Kansas a cowboy area

[balmy condor]

Just a spread of corn

[lucid rune]

I still haven’t gotten used to caustic spatter… I wanna spread bleeds and FoK lol

[cerulean walrus]

Hell yeah brother

[cerulean walrus]

Yeah you do that

And once you have the bleeds up you spatter all over them

[turbid anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/omb-oh-my-buddha-barbie-what-the-omg-gif-10812456852955353192

[cerulean walrus]

I’ll spatter all over you @balmy condor you dirty dog

[grim jay]

coincidence? I dont think so

[dull sandal]

Probably a dumb question, I'm just setting up my rogue for the first time since bfa, and I'm reading the wowhead rotation guide thingy to get started. When it says mutilate for ST and fan of knives for AOE, what target count separates the two?

[lucid rune]

How many targets should I rupture?

[turbid anchor]

all of them

[balmy condor]

Enough for energy or max scent stacks if you’re playing scent

[lavish hazel]

is better deathstalker or FB for m+ on beta rn ?

[balmy condor]

Fb easier to play, deathstalker better single target

[lucid rune]

So basically when you’re capping energy from all the returns?

[balmy condor]

Similar overall between the two

[runic hinge]

3+ for fok

[dull sandal]

ty

[balmy condor]

Yeh, and if you’re playing scent you make sure to have 5 out

[lucid rune]

FOk while prepping bleeds, then switching to muti env for caustic?

After the 5+ ruptures are rolling

[paper arch]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[balmy condor]

No, you still fok for cp

Always fok on 3+

[inner swift]

if somehow you could squeeze in sbs in the build would be nice, it really smoothen the aoe rotation

[balmy condor]

What is “the build”, cause sbs is taken in some and in the beta builds it’s taken basically always

[lucid rune]

So same as before when I used to main

[inner swift]

your first recommended m+ build

im playing atm

[balmy condor]

Oh yeh that one kinda stinky

Could drop arterial for it I guess

Or sudden demise

[inner swift]

so any recommendations? since i was mistaken by playing self made talents XD

[balmy condor]

But seems kinda int

[balmy condor]

For beta?

[inner swift]

pre

[balmy condor]

Oh pre

Pre you don’t play sbs

[inner swift]

ah ok

[balmy condor]

There’s a similar build that does

Can try it

[inner swift]

i mean i was away for like 2 3 months so just looking for a build to do some m+s in prepatch

anything helps XD

[balmy condor]

Yeah talent page on wowhead

Goes over all the options

[inner swift]

oh yeah thats the same one

[broken sandal]

May be a stupid question, but does anyone know how to get anima charged combo points to show in SUF?

[balmy condor]

Frankly I didn’t even know suf had combo points

Isn’t that just raid frames and shit

[broken sandal]

Nah, its does have CP buts its always been a bit funny with talents increases max CP. May have to WA it for Assa, i normally play Sub so ER isnt really a thing 🙂

[balmy condor]

Interesting

[broken sandal]

I want to play assa next tier, or at least have it as an option so setting up my UI 🙂

[royal laurel]

Hello, new rogue player here looking for some wisdom, i learned sub and trying to play assa now. I did a +10 key yesterday and got giga fucked dmg wise on AOE, i was looking for some vids on youtube but i dont know who is good, and cant find a lot of pre-patch content, the one guy i saw was sybelysa, i saw he garrotes twice on the duration of the improved garrote, is it worth it ?(and is it on the same 3 targets? or he tabs to other pack for max energy) i heard some ppl spitting the word snap shoting, how does that work? sorry for text wall and sorry for bad england (XD) not main language.

[balmy condor]

Garroting twice in the duration of improved garrote isn’t worth it

Snapshotting isn’t a thing anymore after they removed nightstalker

[royal laurel]

Is it worth it on AOE situations? for instance i garrote once, then switch to prio target, garrote again for max energy then resume rotation as normal

[balmy condor]

What

How many targets do you have in this situation

[royal laurel]

6

[balmy condor]

You said he had 3 targets

On 6 you would garrote twice

Carnage spreads your bleeds to 2 additional targets

So the first applies to 3, the second would as well

[royal laurel]

ok

should i rupture too?

on all the targets that is

[balmy condor]

Until you have enough energy, and if you’re playing scent you should max scent

[royal laurel]

i am

ok

ty

[shy pecan]

Be forewarned that not every content creator gives out good info. That guy in particular has some questionable talent choices (like talenting into double vanish).

[royal laurel]

i see idjsaojdas

https://youtu.be/vExGtELw-TQ?t=18

here is the clip i mentioned

he doubles garrote on prio

this is misplay then?

[shy pecan]

I mean, you lose out on a garrote if you hit the same target with garrote and there's 6 targets...

[dapper cradle]

doesn't the wowhead guide say that you can spready your rup/gar through prio target

if you don't wanna tab spam

[balmy condor]

Np

[potent raven]

you could watch that guy

who always smokes while he plays

w/e his name is

[dapper cradle]

zerocool

gigachad

[royal laurel]

i was watching kushi? (dont remember) but he is playing beta

[royal laurel]

other thing, before kings bane i should aways try to envenom right?

[dapper cradle]

lights a ciggie mid pull and hops into a KB window

[royal laurel]

so i can max the extra dmg

[potent raven]

beta gameplay isnt that different from pre patch

[royal laurel]

already a fan

[potent raven]

just rng hero talents

[shy pecan]

Ideally, but in a 10 key right now, mobs die very quickly so you might need to accelerate your CD usage

You might not have time to set up an envenom into CDs

[royal laurel]

k

dragon tempered blades can be run on M+?

[shy pecan]

It can, yes

You're likely running the hybrid build if you are

[royal laurel]

i saw that talent build, but im using the Bleed M+ preset from wow head

[shy pecan]

The bleed one is more ideal. You're less reliant on KB.

[full summit]

no shot pre-patch best build has echoing reprimand

i fucking hate ER

[shy pecan]

Can always take the dps loss and play something else, like CB

[full summit]

wuts cb?

[shy pecan]

Cold Blood.

[full summit]

meh

na fuck it we ball

[shy pecan]

lol …

[raw dock]

Guys, any tip on beta rotation to not struggle on focus?

[zinc frost]

Why is this person not using CT on a 10? Seems a bit troll not to

[shy pecan]

Because people don’t think sometimes about their talents and usage.

[full summit]

na they jus too gud

fr

[balmy condor]

At least with mop talents it was much more difficult to burn the kitchen when cooking

[royal laurel]

Ct? sorry

[shy pecan]

Crimson Tempest

[royal laurel]

im running that

but it seems with low crit is hard to get Combo to maint. envenom AOE + pop that shit early

[shy pecan]

Yeah, low crit = less procs of seal fate = less CP

[stray ivy]

same

[balmy condor]

would you hate ER if it was passive

is it the button

[final star]

It's always the button

[lost pulsar]

Hi, boys and grills! Long time rogue player here. Well, on and off since 2005. Always been a subtle boy, but now I feel more drawn to the poisonous side of things! Nice to meet all of you.

[final star]

One more button is far too much

[potent raven]

agree

[final star]

But one less, too little

[full summit]

it fucking sucks just in general

er is just dogshit

[potent raven]

oh really

[final star]

It's fine ngl

Skill issue

[shy pecan]

You get two CP for 15 energy

Mutilate costs 50

If you land on an anima-powered CP, you save more energy because you don't have to spend 50 energy to get to 5-7 CP to finish

[final star]

It's also what is it

+12 cp for free

On top of that

[stray ivy]

Can someone link me a beta ST and AOE build

[final star]

[spice surge]

In the pins

[stray ivy]

oh sorry i thought that was out dated

thx ill try it

[final star]

Just didn't read

[subtle kiln]

Reading is hard

[naive valve]

Has anything changed in the past couple weeks or are hero talents still buggy as hecc?

[shy pecan]

Pins has updates.

[naive valve]

👍

[stray ivy]

thats weeks old i dunno

did not know

[hoary remnant]

same bugs only subterfuge is fixed that it works now again

But not the bug that it gives you as sin more cp

[final star]

I'd make the assumption that because it's still pinned it's relevant

Because our tc work hard to keep information accurate and up to date

[runic hinge]

Kerion I swapped to whispyrs wa pack. Feel like a whole new rogue.

[final star]

[shy pecan]

[final star]

It will serve you well

And your ram and one core of your cpu will thank you

[runic hinge]

[trail mason]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[hearty reef]

[neat plank]

buffs

were they already in effect on beta or is that something new? :p

[deep arch]

those patch notes are just a collective of all changes

methinks

thats the patch coming in next week on retail

[neat plank]

thats what i thought

[balmy condor]

correct

[runic hinge]

They were in effect on beta and will be coming to retail Tuesday is the way I understand it

[neat plank]

thanks 🙂

[hoary remnant]

which is doom for any bug fixes

[runic hinge]

I don’t doom

[shy pecan]

Same

[coarse shuttle]

didnt learn the spell

[tall jay]

Not on my action bar

[forest nacelle]

Spell Not Found

[lost pulsar]

What professions do you recommend for TWW? I’m thinking about alchemy + engineering.

[shy pecan]

Whatever makes you the most gold imo 🙂

[balmy condor]

I disagree

I think you should pick the profession that makes you feel the coolest

[haughty flicker]

pick whatever profession you can because nobody gives a shit about a history degree and you wasted your time and money and now its just a slow spiral into nothingness and darkness before the inevitable end

i mean i like alchemy too

[lost pulsar]

So I don’t need one gathering and one crafting profession?

[slate crown]

Nope

[shy pecan]

Never did 🙂

[slate crown]

It's helpful in classic

[shy pecan]

I mean, it's nice since you don't have to buy mats and can funnel whatever you gather into your crafting profession, but definitely not needed

[slate crown]

It's also time/money, if you're making anything at scale and crafting commodities, what you can gather in an hour is miniscule compared to what you can just buy and process

[spice surge]

If you cba doing profession shit alchemy+enchanting always good, longer flasks and you get to disenchant shit from regular play and get some extra gold

[slate crown]

you'll make less profit per craft, sure, but you also spent time gathering

Which you could have instead spent doing something else

[spice surge]

Which is "passive income"

But obviously if you spend more time so you can do work orders early on you'd earn a fuckload more

[shy pecan]

With the new concentration system, seems like enchanting is a good money maker since you can guarantee those r3 crafts very easily...

[remote wing]

personally a run dbl gather since DF system was put in place they made crafting too complex and too much a gold sink . with work orders u dont need to lvl crafting anymore

[slate crown]

Double gather is fine. Thing is with dragonriding and managing cooldown reduction and whatever other gimmicks they add, gathering can honestly be a gamemode in itself as just a chill activity you do when you're bored and don't have other content to do or can't dedicate time to something else

Which makes you a bit of gold

It's actually not mindnumbingly boring like it used to be

imo

But if your goal is "make more gold" double gather is definitely not it

(and that doesn't have to be your goal)

[shy pecan]

If they do legendaries again this expansion, crafting definitely can make you some good gold without even having to level up your skill 😬

[patent pelican]

Is there something that I could read/watch about energy pooling? I have my opener down, but I'm really trailing off after and I'm not really sure if I understand how manage my resources efficiently

[spice surge]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[spice surge]

But most recent findings suggest that once we are at lvl 80 and no longer use the old tier you dont really pool energy anymore.

You just want to max your envenom uptime by not using envenom before pandemic

[devout drift]

Yeah I wouldn't do double gathering In TWW and I made some golds by chilling and running old raids

You grab some nice tmog for all specs from warbank and few achievements + mounts, this is bonus at least

[devout mist]

The outlaw channel went bananas (more than usual)

[last skiff]

https://youtu.be/Duitt_1audA?si=WpeknfCDASrF-Sqz

[spice surge]

Why the monkas

[last skiff]

better?

[gusty mirage]

I liked the monkas better tbh

https://tenor.com/view/cat-roll-dark-souls-roll-somersault-gif-26164281

[last skiff]

oh

idk how he do so much damage on single target

[gusty mirage]

cause @keen mantle is a cheater

[shy pecan]

smh my head

[last skiff]

He still waiting

[ember mural]

Just to get nerfed heroic week

[spice surge]

Assa rogue is meta all the time in m+, its only fair a spec like firemage gets some love so they too can be played in high m+ keys

[last skiff]

my plan

start assa wait nerf

then they will buff outlaw

[spice surge]

But ye its gonna be the same old story as always, assa ends up getting nerfed so we will end up playing sub

[last skiff]

[spice surge]

More news at 10

[last skiff]

I like assa in m+ but the gameplay is so much boring than outlaw..

[honest badge]

Is it easier to play assa?

[shy pecan]

Then just play outlaw if you enjoy it more?

[shy pecan]

Very subjective to the player. They each have their pros and cons depending on the player

[last skiff]

@honest badge idk maybe? less spam to do

[honest badge]

Yea, cuz i feel like im playing wack a mole with outlaw xD

Always something to press

it gets confusing sometimes

[last skiff]

I tried both, dont really like the distance nerf to hit 😦

[last skiff]

yh y need a lot of muscle memory, but I find it easy when you have it

[honest badge]

Yea i can imagine.
got the hang of it now, but still some hiccups

[last skiff]

more dummy to hit

[shy dust]

What

Outlaw in m+ is blade flurry spec

[dense lodge]

Really? Ive always played outlaw but actually find ASSN more fun and rewarding

[last skiff]

Depend of what you like guys

[spice spire]

I like @shy dust

[last skiff]

don't have cd, keep moving fast, GUNS

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/outside-weather-flag-windy-gif-14236951

[shy dust]

Your ST rotation is quite literally your aoe rotation

I’m all for liking what you like

But engagement level for outlaw in aoe is not there

[last skiff]

switch target to put dot

[shy dust]

Multi dotting has been a hall mark of wow since the beginning

[covert jewel]

multidotting is satisfying af

[shy dust]

Versus the boring simplification of your aoe becoming doing your st

[last skiff]

Hahaha

don't want to argument its just my opinion, I like assa too

[midnight mist]

But if the st rotation is engaging already

[shy dust]

No

[midnight mist]

I mean

All I'm saying is

If sin was interesting in st

You wouldn't need more in AOE to stay engaged you know

That's why outlaw is a perfect spec

[shy dust]

Sin in ST is interesting

My point was the boringness of a specs st and aoe practically being the same

[midnight mist]

I mean

Vs sub type of AOE?

I'm sorry but like

[shy dust]

I don’t think we are discussing sub aoe here

[midnight mist]

At least outlaw just keep an interesting rotation in both right

[last skiff]

[midnight mist]

I mean you just said you thought that in general, a spec that has the same st and AOE rotation is boring

[tall jay]

Guys, what addon do I need to download to see what addons/wa to see what’s affecting my fps?

[shy dust]

Yes that is my opinion

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-monkey-fight-monkey-fight-knives-gif-427174388596205973

[slate crown]

You can do this within weakauras specifically for weakauras, right click the minimap button (if you hid it you can do /wa minimap to bring it back)

[tall jay]

Oh cool, and then delete the one that’s high on usage i assume

[slate crown]

What you do with it is up to you

[tall jay]

Ok 🙂

[trail mason]

!WA

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[slate crown]

You can check it for updates and see if the author has updated and improved it, or you could notify the author it's high, or you could attempt to improve it, or you could just delete it and find something else

[tall jay]

Yea me and coding go to gather like acid rain and popcorn 🍿

Not a good combo lol. Cool and will do. What about Addons?

[slate crown]

I don't know about other addons. I'm sure there's something that exists

If you want a built in option that isn't perfect, this doesn't tell you much, but it can tell you at least if an addon has a memory issue

Mouse over your Game Menu icon on your micromenu

An addon having excessive memory issues can build up over time and cause fps issues

[runic hinge]

I need to remember this in 10 minutes

[tall jay]

Thank you. Sorry for the delay

[vital haven]

bro you just wanted to flex your ping

[slate crown]

If I wanted to flex my ping I wouldn't do it in the same screenshot showing me rocking 50 fps lmao

[slate crown]

Np

[sonic zinc]

!restealths

[shy pecan]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• You can add in some sanguine/rupture value from carnage, but chaining allows for higher uptime and smoother energy overall, eliminating a lot of ramp at the start of a pull
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths (chain heavy spiteful weeks are only about -30% on stealths)
• You still have vanish which gives you plenty of options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[uneven plume]

whats two good trinkets

for sin M+

[slender grove]

I don’t care WHAT the sim says if I don’t get my restealth I’m YELLING at my tank and leaving the key FOR MY SMOKE BREAK!!!

[rocky zodiac]

Just picking up Sin again since ages. In m+ when you start a pull without indescriminate Carmage, for how many garrotes, ruptures are you aiming to maintain?

[runic hinge]

til you're energy saturated which is like 5 bleeds and also if you're running scent you want at least 5 ruptures

[glass hemlock]

does anyone know how the best gearing will be done in tww?

basically just. level to 80, do dungeons, do heroics, wait for mythic season 1?

haha

[jolly heath]

I think you can do 8 mythic 0 daily till M+ open in the week after

[livid finch]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[acoustic roost]

Delves also provide better gear as well

[rotund oak]

bold to assume a buff can fix outlaw

[cedar elk]

we will be FOTM soon enough

[rotund oak]

[cedar elk]

[runic hinge]

finally outlaw is bad and now the PIRATES are complaining so SAD, just admit it the dot spec is finally good lmao! ! enjoy the normal APM losers and buckle in for a sinful season!

[meager moon]

hey guys

[meager moon]

which one you prefer for the beginer?

[rotund oak]

Whispyr's or LE's

ild say whatever u pick whispyr's plater should be there if u look to minmax out bleeds

[meager moon]

honestly i did some raids but im suck at dps

i was playing outlaw

[rotund oak]

outlaw suffers greatly from downtime,its only natural

[meager moon]

i think my most problem is the rotation

[rotund oak]

that would be even bigger a problem but ye

as a new rogue sin is the perfect place to start learning rogue

[lusty narwhal]

prepatch m+ feels like ass

[blazing plaza]

anyone can help me with a beta talent tree ? also what items should i buy ?

[rotund oak]

beta talent tree are the same as prepatch

[blazing plaza]

and hero talents i mean

for m+

[rotund oak]

its either fb or ds

fatebound is the safest choice

[meager moon]

this one you mean Whispyr's Afenar Edit?

[rotund oak]

deathstalker is weird if u are new into hero tree

[rotund oak]

and whispyr's plater ye

LE's group is also very good

she put great effort to create it,its very good

[blazing plaza]

u have a build i cand copy paste it ?

[rotund oak]

the prepatch ones in wowhead

[blazing plaza]

for hero talents man 🙂

[rotund oak]

u cant copy them bro,just activate,u use all nodes there

[runic hinge]

Whispyrs wa is very good and I like cev’s plater profile for tracking

[blazing plaza]

best stats are the same in beta as in prepatch ?

[meager moon]

Does it show the priority of which spell to use?

[rotund oak]

why would u use such a thing as a rogue

[meager moon]

maybe because im beginer?

[rotund oak]

even as a beginner u wont learn with any rotation helper

[keen mantle]

All those titles and replies are just marketing

I’m just trolling mostly

But since it’s catchy why not lol

Ppl who have seen my stream know I’m humble and shit

[keen mantle]

Bug abuser too

[runic hinge]

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/guardians-of-the-galaxy-drax-the-destroyer-dave-bautista-humble-gif-12937618876345401851

[rotund oak]

cmon now

he is the rogue primera after all

[silk bane]

where stream tho. im out here watching growl instead... smh

[keen mantle]

I’m out for some morning steps, might be streaming later on cause gym after stream is suss , I’m getting tired. So I’ll propably be hitting the gym and then stream

In like 4 hours or sth I’ll stream

And there are not a lot of ppl to play early so it’s weird too

[silk bane]

have a good workout, ill try to catch the stream if im up then!

[quiet oar]

Sinful Season was some Years ago

[prisma vortex]

But the morning adventures must continue

[blazing plaza]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[urban anvil]

Is there anywhere i can see what talents people are playing in tww beta in m+?

[runic hinge]

#assassination message

[keen mantle]

They will become Morning/midday adventures

Or i stream Gym , KAPPA

[willow rapids]

Do you garotte people there as well?

[urban anvil]

So prepatch and beta very much the same?

[grim jay]

Yes

[urban anvil]

Ghanks

[grim jay]

Only light changes if anything

But nothing to worry about

[keen mantle]

I shadowstep them for reps

[hot fulcrum]

There are lot of changes (numbers buffs) coming in 11.0.2. Is it already discussed here? Mostly it's about numbers but I wonder why we have such big buffs to those numbers

[balmy condor]

Because they’re copy pasting beta tuning onto live