#assassination

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slate crown
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1 2 3

slim hamlet
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Also I only just realised now that we lost so many CDs god damn

slate crown
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The most accursed keybinds what am I looking at

royal lantern
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shit ability since SL, should have never left SL togheter with all other covenant shit things, the "reward" is literally almost pointless now that blizzard gives us more and more cp every expansion

slate crown
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actually that's not too cursed it's just weird

slim hamlet
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1-5 is objectively bad to spam

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Q-E-R-F-C-X is objectively good

grim jay
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Or what

royal lantern
slim hamlet
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Based keybinds only

fickle hamlet
slim hamlet
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v used to be SBS or sepsis shift+c dance btw

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Oh I still have exsang bound too

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Based

grim jay
slate crown
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I mean I knew someone who had their movement keys on like I J K L and had keys like heroic strike on F

fickle hamlet
grim jay
static glacier
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idk why was thinking he was talking about er

slate crown
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I just backed away slowly from that conversation like I did not want to know what was going on

static glacier
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was hella confused that he macro'd it to mut

fickle hamlet
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ESDF kinda makes sense in theory because your index would sit on F and it would be easy to find since most keyboards have a notch on it.

static glacier
slim hamlet
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and H is for stupid smolderon macro stuff

static glacier
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h is for healthstone 🙂

slim hamlet
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hell no

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ctrl+x

static glacier
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y is for health pot

slim hamlet
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hell no

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ctrl+e

static glacier
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i dont use any modifiers except mouse buttons for ctrl 1-10

grim jay
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All those cursed binds

static glacier
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i need to find my sin binds again

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they're hella cursd

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all my binds are quite cursed tbh

slim hamlet
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I made mine when I was like 10

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and they turned out to be super optimized to not hurt your hands

grim jay
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I have 1-6
Alt 1-6
Q E R T F G X V
Alt Q E R
2 Mousebinds with alt each
And F1 - F4 PogO

slim hamlet
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FUNCTION KEYS

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THat's crazy

grim jay
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They are out of combat stuff

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Like stealth shroud Tricks

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Sap

slim hamlet
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I got all those badboys bound to real keys

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Shroud is ctrl+1 baby

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Actually I do use F2 for the yak mount

subtle kiln
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F1-F4 🐐 for stuff like shroud and control gateway

slim hamlet
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I got gateway on t

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for teleport

subtle kiln
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trinket

slim hamlet
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Right next to my R key for deathmark

static glacier
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Kidney and gateway shard are interchangable depending on what content im doing, c-5 used to be dance

slim hamlet
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Sus sometimes

static glacier
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and n is on use trink

slim hamlet
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Yea probably a lot of binds could be saved like that

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But I can't live with same binds for different stuff

clever sapphire
slim hamlet
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Only with sepsis and sbs

slim hamlet
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HOW YOU REACHING N

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That is mid gcd too

static glacier
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not the key i use for tricks

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tricks is 5 always

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n is on use trink and hasn't been used for like

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non active channel ones ever

slim hamlet
static glacier
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stuff like branch is macro'd to dm

slim hamlet
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Bro is blinding ON L

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ON L

static glacier
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blind is 4

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but yeah once upon a time i used L

slim hamlet
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but how

static glacier
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I have pretty long fingers xd

slim hamlet
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Or the smallest keyboard ever

static glacier
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not like u is a good bind either xd

clever sapphire
static glacier
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its one with all the keys stuck together like a laptop keyboard

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since thats what i played on for years

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leme find the image

slim hamlet
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And you flamed me for not using Z

static glacier
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this thing

slim hamlet
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mmm

grim jay
slim hamlet
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Keychron

slim hamlet
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or 1 away from pinky on shift

grim jay
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Oh different keyboard

static glacier
grim jay
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MB

slim hamlet
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Oh yea

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I use nordic

static glacier
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i still have to find a use for the button to the left of z

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never had it before

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seems prime keybinding real estate

slim hamlet
static glacier
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maybe that can be for extra ac button

grim jay
slim hamlet
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Y I could use if I needed it

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for something like a macro or an insta icon set

static glacier
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up to like f4 then diagonally down to n is easy to hit

slim hamlet
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right now I just use g for extra button, shift g for skull set and ctrl g for ping

static glacier
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J and u are medium difficulty

slim hamlet
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Would probably use Y to set more icons if I needed

static glacier
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and stuff near O / P is difficult

grim jay
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We arent on cevs level yet tho

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He said He thought about buying a pedal

slim hamlet
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Would have to use thumb or I couldn't during combat

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Or pinky but that is always awkward moving away

static glacier
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I stretch upwards to hit 12345rt

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and fingers rest around zxcfqew

slim hamlet
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but

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wasd??

static glacier
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I barely use wasd tbh

slim hamlet
static glacier
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mouse controls movement

slim hamlet
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Aintnoway you flamed me for no Z

static glacier
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sometimes ill hold / press wasd with middle finger

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then use index to hit zxc

slim hamlet
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What am I even reading

static glacier
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i wouldn't say I flamed xd

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im memeing, I think z isnt a great bind in general

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I have health pot on H xd

slim hamlet
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But how did you end up with those keybinds

static glacier
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it just happened

slim hamlet
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did you also randomly make them at like 10 years old

static glacier
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i was 17 iirc

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and i just swapped shadow bolt from 1 to z

slim hamlet
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Mine ended like this because my brother told me to rebind from 6 and up and I just hit random buttons

static glacier
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then 2 to x

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etc

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and here we are

slim hamlet
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At 17 is crazy

static glacier
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im 30 now xd

slim hamlet
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Got beat by a 10 year old

static glacier
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thing is I don't think the binds hold me back at all

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used to them at this point

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only downside is i cant function on someone else's binds

slim hamlet
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Yea it's probably fine now

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But like

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How

static glacier
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my index finger is notably longer than the keeb and I have thin fingers too

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i get away with illegal presses often

slim hamlet
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But

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What if you have to move to the right while keeping head forward

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or even move semi backwards

static glacier
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okay wait

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so strafe right?

slim hamlet
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yea

static glacier
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hold e down

slim hamlet
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Please dont tell me

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ohj no

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Ok E and Q then?

static glacier
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yeah

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tbh i should bind a and d, i never use em

slim hamlet
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I was expecting you to strafe on like q and p

static glacier
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lmao wot

slim hamlet
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Yea I bound strafe to A and D instead

vestal wren
slim hamlet
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It's a keychron right?

static glacier
static glacier
slim hamlet
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I heckin love keychron

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Got the heavyass Q1

static glacier
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yeah Im a fan too, great value and solid prebuilt too

slim hamlet
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I kept moving my keyboard because I hold my thumb on like under my spacebar on the side of my keyboard

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and when something got intense I would press without knowing

static glacier
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lit

slim hamlet
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First one I got besides cheap ass logitech or whatever ones

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Had to change underwear multiple times first day I had it

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Crazy how big a difference

static glacier
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got a steelseries and returned it

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after like 3 days

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then got this

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biggest problem was f1 position

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on laptops its directly above 1 while on real keyboards there's a gap and f1 is above 2

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i litterally kept trying to hit f1 to vanish on OL and it didnt exist

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I lost my mind

slim hamlet
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That does sound like hell

royal lantern
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dont forget spamming Space all the time aswell

slim hamlet
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I think the habbit of having my thumb on the side saved me from the melee brainrot

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I have never brainrot jumped like the rest of you all

static glacier
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i dont ever jump unless it's needed EXCEPT for fire mage during combust

neat plank
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btw, how come using CB with mutilate is better dps than CB+KB? 🙂

slim hamlet
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Probably combo points

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And KB only works with the initial hit

neat plank
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in surprised that counts for so much

slim hamlet
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Not the ticks

neat plank
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still its 100k vs 20k for these 2 abilities

slim hamlet
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Also probably because it's 45 sec cd and KB is 60

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all together

neat plank
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i guess

clever sapphire
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you get 4 cp guaranteed

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that already is big

slim hamlet
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Like if you didn't macro CB I bet it would be better to use first CB on KB and last in the fight on KB too if you don't lose any

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Maybe it isn't but

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I would expect so

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Would actually be pretty neat

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No macro only spell

royal lantern
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just crit????

slim hamlet
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I was about to say

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Why cold blood if you just crit

royal lantern
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skill issue

slim hamlet
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Is this ever a thing in m+ with deathstalker?

image.png
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Or I guess just ER gone for CB tea

clever sapphire
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why would you take a 2nd point in lethality over tea

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what am i missing

lusty mountain
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bois, tww rogue is playable/good with the new buffs?

royal lantern
clever sapphire
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no he is missing the tea

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not me

slim hamlet
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and you got infinite energy most of the time in m+

royal lantern
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unless you wanna number chase

slim hamlet
lusty mountain
clever sapphire
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still not sure if its really worth it over tea and just 1 lethality

slim hamlet
lusty mountain
slim hamlet
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Yea idk either

clever sapphire
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is gonna be a sim angle for sure

slim hamlet
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Was just something I thought about

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But ER gone and CB+Tea prolly just better if u want double lethality

clever sapphire
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but its still just rng

slim hamlet
clever sapphire
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and the gameplay didnt change

lusty mountain
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thx guys

clever sapphire
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cause we do dmg to paper

slim hamlet
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Yea

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And mage is the scissor

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Or wait

clever sapphire
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wait

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no

slim hamlet
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No

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Other way around

clever sapphire
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wtf did i just say

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and why did you agree

slim hamlet
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idk

haughty flicker
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You were right though

royal lantern
slim hamlet
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I am cooked on 3 hours of sleep

haughty flicker
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Throw a rock at a piece of paper

slim hamlet
haughty flicker
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Tell me who wins

slim hamlet
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Yea

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But a rock also wins against a scissors

clever sapphire
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the rock, i cant throw it

slim hamlet
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and we definitely dont do that

haughty flicker
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Rock beats everything

slim hamlet
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Rock is mage

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gg

haughty flicker
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Rick is mage

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And rock

slim hamlet
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Did someone say rick?

haughty flicker
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Fuck Rick

slim hamlet
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Unironic banger tho

clever sapphire
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i figured out why blizzard misses so badly with the patch notes

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they are stormtroopers

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and mage is the wall

slim hamlet
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What are we cooking

clever sapphire
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i dunno

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my head is fried

slim hamlet
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Great

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It's like me fishing

clever sapphire
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i thought the prepatch event is gonna be atleast a bit fun

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but it was a 5 minute thing

slim hamlet
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Blizzard is me and the fish are rogue changes

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and they don't catch it

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you know?

clever sapphire
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its like wait one and a half hours for 5 minutes of content

slim hamlet
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Yea and then do that 30 times

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Reddit AINT happy about it either

clever sapphire
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instead of giving them the fish

slim hamlet
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idfk how to fish

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I have fished my entire life

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still dogshit

clever sapphire
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just git gud

slim hamlet
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toxic

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reported even

clever sapphire
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i usually just jump in the water and catch it with my hands

slim hamlet
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Isn't that how you usually would fish?

clever sapphire
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i have heard things about poles and whatnot

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but how would a pole help me underwater

slim hamlet
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Sounds like simbait

clever sapphire
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its just a hindrance

haughty flicker
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You attach something sharp to the end of it

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I’ve heard that works sometimes

clever sapphire
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so my sense of humor 2ez

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ye no thats dull

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back to using hands

slim hamlet
clever sapphire
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very on topic, much relevance

tall jay
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so, i have a really dumb q, I thought Horde and Alliance could openn world que together now with Prepatch or is that only in TWW?

wide ferry
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Servers down? Ruh roh

kindred snow
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Is Caustic Spatter bugged? Not showing in detail, nor as buff or debuff on npc :/

slim hamlet
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Have you remembered to press deadly poison

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Mayhaps can I get the simc profile for TWW with bis stuff? exs_uwu gwb_uwu

balmy condor
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what reason could you possibly have to need that

slim hamlet
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Well I like to goof as you know

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I am bored and want to do min-minning ok, and also I wanted to see how many procs the nature ring has for rogue compared to other specs

kindred snow
slim hamlet
balmy condor
slim hamlet
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Yes please

balmy condor
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no lmao

slim hamlet
midnight mist
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they are all in tc outlaw

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welcome to the light

slim hamlet
slim hamlet
balmy condor
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it procs the same

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as every other spec in the game

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what are we doing

slim hamlet
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Yea but balance procced a few seconds more often on average than others with the 2nd part of it

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So I wanna see how low the ICD is

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It's nothing that matters

balmy condor
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it's a hasted proc

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there is no icd

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it's just rppm

slim hamlet
slim hamlet
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Well there we go

balmy condor
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???????????

slim hamlet
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No wait

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What about the "double dose" thing

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That procs of you doing nature dmg

midnight mist
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its just threads in tc channel noob

slim hamlet
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That is what I wanted to see how much more often it procs on an actual nature dmg spec, than just getting it off the ring itself

slim hamlet
balmy condor
slim hamlet
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But

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I got told that it procced on average every 6s on balance and 9s for mage

balmy condor
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yeh, and mage will just get an embellishment that does nature damage

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and now it procs every 6 on mage too

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ggwp

slim hamlet
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Yea but I wanted to see if 6s was the lowest because of ICD

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or if it got even lower with more nature dmg from assa

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Like it doesn't matter at all

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But I thought about it, and then I needed to know

balmy condor
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whatever makes you happy

slim hamlet
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So does that mean I get the profile? PogO

balmy condor
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fuck no

slim hamlet
spice surge
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Youre acting like whispyr has made one

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And blizzard has made their embellishments work

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or tuned trinkets

slim hamlet
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idc about any numbers

balmy condor
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you have to though

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you're looking for lowest icd

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that's dependent on haste

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which is dependent on gear

slim hamlet
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Yea was the only thing I was thinking off

balmy condor
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I could just give you a profile with 90% haste

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forced in through config

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and then wow pog

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but that's not useful to your quest

slim hamlet
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I mean that would be cool to see max

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But yea not useful for my quest

balmy condor
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what would be cool about that

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gear caps at 126% haste

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ring is like what

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6rppm?

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just do the math

slim hamlet
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Mage got 45 procs in 5 minutes

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Not full procs but the minor one

balmy condor
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126% haste 6rppm is 13.5 so once every 4.4 seconds

slim hamlet
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Well this is about the proc that doesn't have anything to do with nature dmg right?

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The additional dose thingy

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This is what I wanted to see how much more you proc that with a nature dealing spec, compared to just proccing it from the ring itself

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Or if it just had a super high proc chance and long enough ICD that you didn't really get more

brave stump
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!pooling

prisma monolithBOT
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Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

  • If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
  • Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
  • Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
  • With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use
balmy condor
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I'm pretty certain that it doesn't add any

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once the proc is saturated its joever

brave stump
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damn @balmy condor

spice surge
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It doesnt add more procs

brave stump
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you looking hella cute today

spice surge
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It just gives you 2 stacks on a single proc sometimes if its nature

balmy condor
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ye

brave stump
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im impressed by your energy drink consumption each video

balmy condor
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thank you I work very hard

spice spire
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You’re also looking cute @spice surge

spice surge
spice spire
slim hamlet
balmy condor
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ring procs like 7.5 times I think

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it's basically the same

silk bane
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whos eleem? i only know elmo

spice spire
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That’s clearly raichu

spice surge
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Fairly sure assa still has way more physical events rather than nature ones that could proc the ring anyway

balmy condor
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spice spire
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solid wagon
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"Kalecgos had wanted to propose to Jaina but their relationship fell out, so he made this magical ring to hold his wand instead"

spice spire
slim hamlet
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I am talking about the additional dose that only procs off nature dmg

balmy condor
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yes

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that's what he's talking about

slim hamlet
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I don't know what he means then

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If it can only proc off nature what does physical do then

balmy condor
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it doesn't give more procs

spice surge
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When it procs, if the attack that procced was nature, it has a chance to give an extra stack

slim hamlet
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Yep

spice surge
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So if it procs on a physical attack

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Youre not getting the nature bonus

slim hamlet
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Yes I understand

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The whole thing was just to see how much more often you get the additional dose on something like assa compared to a random mage

balmy condor
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we get a total of 37.5 procs on average

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does that help

slim hamlet
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on 5 min?

balmy condor
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yes

subtle tundra
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I wipe my ass with that finger

slim hamlet
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Is that the dmg event, or just the proc that you need 5 off to get the dmg

subtle tundra
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I will lie out of my ass hole to get it

balmy condor
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the proc that you need to get 5 of

slim hamlet
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wtf

subtle tundra
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Blantanly lie ill tell everyone it's 10% dps

balmy condor
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37.5 / 5 is 7.5 procs of the ring

slim hamlet
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Mage say they get 45 on 5 min fight

balmy condor
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my brother in christ

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I will hit filter

slim hamlet
spice surge
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Assuming the nature thing is even implemented in simc, but say the extra stack is a 100% chance.

slim hamlet
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Is it just depending on individual dmg instances

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or gcds

balmy condor
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ITS DEPENDING ON THE GUFKFSADNFFSMOIHIOBNEGOIHqe32w'ovGQEW$#TFCGJqa32wtfhio

spice surge
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Then assa should be getting like 30% more stacks per proc, since like 1/3 of our hits are nature

balmy condor
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THE FUCKING GEAR BRO

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WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO SAY

slim hamlet
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so gcds

marble hemlock
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i log in

spice surge
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But its not 100%

haughty flicker
marble hemlock
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whispyr is capping

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capsing

midnight mist
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wtf

balmy condor
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bro this is the dumbest fucking conversation I've ever seen what are we doing

subtle tundra
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Just tell everyone it's omega bis

slim hamlet
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Man it's not that serious I'm sorry

subtle tundra
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So we get it

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Are you dumb

slim hamlet
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Just thought about it and wanted to know, idk how it works

subtle tundra
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Fucking lie

marble hemlock
subtle tundra
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It's a game

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No point in playing fair when shit like boomies exist

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And warlocks

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And mages

balmy condor
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it's hasted

slim hamlet
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And aug

balmy condor
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haste = proc

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mage has more haste

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= more proc

slim hamlet
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So haste gives it a higher percentage chance of proccing, or is it because with more haste you can get more gcds to proc it more

subtle tundra
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I have a smaller cock so I should have it

balmy condor
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NEITHER

slim hamlet
balmy condor
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oh my fucking god

keen grove
balmy condor
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you can get more procs

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there's a cap

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on every proc in the game

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some of them are hasted

clever sapphire
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you guys are still talking about a ring thats not even gonna be 1% of our dmg

balmy condor
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so they are allowed to proc more

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depending on haste

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if I have something that's 10 rppm

slim hamlet
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ahhh

balmy condor
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and I have 10% haste

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it can now proc 11 times

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not 10

slim hamlet
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I see

subtle tundra
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It's probably gonna go to a spec that use the stats the best honestly

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And we are assa

digital mica
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How stonkz are we now

subtle tundra
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So not us

slim hamlet
slim hamlet
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But yea

balmy condor
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so it's 4+haste

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20% haste

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means 4.8

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50% means 6

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10% means 4.4

slim hamlet
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Yep yep

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Didn't know how that worked

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Never heard of it

austere sorrel
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So if I have 4000 haste then that's 4004 procs per minute right?

subtle tundra
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Holy shit dis you graduate high-school with that math

twin pivot
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lol

ruby raven
clever sapphire
subtle tundra
twin pivot
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cant see myself playing it, class already feels hard enough for me lolol

midnight mist
#

@slim hamlet this all seemed rather complicated, if you want a more simpler spec to understand our channel is always open! we have an haste treshold and an haste cap !

slim hamlet
twin pivot
#

i went from bm and war to rogue and im like 💀

clever sapphire
slim hamlet
balmy condor
#

they do

#

for AR

slim hamlet
midnight mist
#

ye we do

slim hamlet
#

I am logging in to respec

#

brb

#

is it perhaps 34%?

midnight mist
#

its an actual question people can ask now

#

"how much haste do i need?"

slim hamlet
#

Wait. Doesn't that mean they will come here and ask too?

midnight mist
#

"whats the cap??"

midnight mist
#

not my issue

slim hamlet
gusty mirage
#

ty for coming to my ted talk

drifting cloud
#

whos ted

#

and why are they talking

peak bobcat
gusty mirage
slim hamlet
gusty mirage
# peak bobcat Mr oxi are we cooked?

that's a fantastic question that I don't have the answer to because outside of stuff for the IV sub rogue guide I haven't paid a single iota of attention to tww after poopstinker launched as a hero tree

peak bobcat
#

I haven’t looked at any tww stuff

#

And now here I am reading many posts

gusty mirage
#

you survived 9.0

#

it can't be worse than that

peak bobcat
#

I played boomkin in 9.0

gusty mirage
#

damn

peak bobcat
#

And immediately swapped back to rogue after that tier

gusty mirage
#

you survived assa in 9.2

#

you can survive anything

peak bobcat
#

Damn you are spitting right now

gusty mirage
#

you progged anduin

#

you're a gamer, you will succeed

#

I believe in you Tyler, I just need you to believe in you

peak bobcat
#

Thanks dad

#

You’re a day one for sure

#

Is assassination good fr though

gusty mirage
#

ye it's solid

slim hamlet
gusty mirage
#

not mage, but not dogshit

peak bobcat
#

Mage and dk seem pretty good

slim hamlet
#

Just tell me you have favourite children

gusty mirage
peak bobcat
#

That’s right

gusty mirage
#

where were you? HUH?

slim hamlet
#

I played warlock

#

:)

gusty mirage
#

anduin broke me emotionally

#

I never recovered

#

something changes in you when you spend 3 hours wiping to anduin on your birthday

slim hamlet
peak bobcat
#

Anduin and first iteration lords of dread made me question if I really enjoyed rogue

slim hamlet
#

Huge logs if you ask me

gusty mirage
#

OH GOD

#

LORDS OF DREAD

#

dsjbkjhafhgjksdhfkjdshfjkds

peak bobcat
#

Man the ptsd is setting in

gusty mirage
#

I had a fucking boomkin standing right behind melee

#

with his green circle and his stupid fucking boomkin form

#

all of prog

slim hamlet
#

awww

#

such a cutie kitty

peak bobcat
#

Do these buffs put sin on par with sub

dark crag
#

A simple "MOVE" would have helped kekw

royal lantern
gusty mirage
peak bobcat
gusty mirage
#

mfer has the longest range in the game

#

and decides to stand behind us

#

wild

#

boomkins are terrorists bro

#

on god

peak bobcat
#

I asked my boomkin in my guild if he had his monitor turned on during fyrakk prog

gusty mirage
#

lmfao

slim hamlet
#

That spec is like an asylum

#

It's fine

gusty mirage
#

our boomkin was forced to play melee on fyrakk

#

wellhe forced himself

midnight mist
gusty mirage
#

and then he blew us up at 3% with a seed

#

and got his seed reassigned

#

and then we killed it

peak bobcat
#

Our hunter did too

#

Couldn’t run a seed

#

I couldn’t believe it

gusty mirage
#

it's hard for BM to do damage and move

#

ya know

#

it's like incredibly difficult for them

peak bobcat
#

Never let 40+ers do your mechanics guys

#

No matter what spec they play

gusty mirage
#

love when BM hunters die

#

and say that they didn't have time to move for the mechanic

#

like lmao okay buddy

peak bobcat
#

Runs BSL sits there with 22 stacks of the dot not getting dispelled

slim hamlet
#

Maybe it is really for the better Oxi stopped gaming wow

peak bobcat
#

“I thought rogues were tanky”

gusty mirage
#

wow made me a very angry person

#

we had a BM hunter trial that got booted an hour into fyrakk prog

#

because he wanted everyone else to move with blaze to accomodate him

subtle stream
#

Do you guys like the prepatch talent changes?

slim hamlet
#

Who trials someone in the middle of end boss

gusty mirage
#

got a DM from one of our healers "did you hear what he said?"
"Nah I had him muted 10 minutes into raid"

#

then he messaged our officers, we took an early break

royal lantern
slim hamlet
#

And no dance

gusty mirage
#

he would give an ESPN style analysis after every wipe

#

it was sick

slim hamlet
#

and no CTTC

gusty mirage
#

good trial behavior

slim hamlet
#

and ehmmm

gusty mirage
#

wdym no CTTC

#

that's baseline now

slim hamlet
#

Yes

gusty mirage
slim hamlet
#

But we are talking talents

gusty mirage
#

it aint a change bruv

slim hamlet
#

dumb

gusty mirage
#

it's still a talent, it's just baseline

#

kinda like sub was given their dance charge talent as a baseline

#

you fuck

storm forum
#

Is it really a talent if it doesn't cost a talent point?

peak bobcat
#

we just do less burst dam now right

#

like nothing changed?

royal lantern
peak bobcat
#

and no snapshotting?

gusty mirage
#

:3

silk bane
storm forum
#

UwU

midnight mist
gusty mirage
#

armin out here choosing violence

#

wtf

#

Zac finally got to relax a bit and you're gonna ptsd him into malding again?

silk bane
#

I just want your son to be happy oxi

storm forum
#

I didn't realize OL had enough brain cells to have concerns

slim hamlet
gusty mirage
#

he plays wow, he'll never be happy

midnight mist
#

also please dont disrepect me asking if i can be happy

#

when they took out my acro

#

i will never be happy again

silk bane
gusty mirage
#

name me one tier when any of you were completely happy with the game

#

I'll wait

shy pecan
#

Tier Q

silk bane
#

I was vibing in 10.2

slim hamlet
shy pecan
#

Q for when I quit the game for a few years

gusty mirage
slim hamlet
#

actually no PI exists

gusty mirage
#

it's a trick question cause aug and PI exist

silk bane
subtle stream
#

T7?

shy pecan
gusty mirage
#

that was a good tier

slim hamlet
#

Legit if PI didn't exist 10.2 would've been sick as fuck

gusty mirage
#

shout out to t7

peak bobcat
#

i had fun in 10.2

silk bane
#

oh right fuck never mind

#

I havent been happy since aug came out

slim hamlet
#

Holy fuck you guys are old

gusty mirage
peak bobcat
#

anytime rogue is good i am having the illusion of fun

midnight mist
shy pecan
#

I had to mute you for a bit because you were going insane every day

gusty mirage
#

remember 9.1 when rogue was strong cause of the domination shards and they gave us nothing to compensate for it in 10.2

#

and we were just mid as fuck?

slim hamlet
gusty mirage
#

pepperidge farm remembers

storm forum
#

It mightve been eternal palace in bfa

gusty mirage
#

EP actually a banger tier

rotund oak
peak bobcat
gusty mirage
#

I miss the essence powers

peak bobcat
#

and buff you

#

real main character shit

keen spruce
#

'member sL launch assas

gusty mirage
keen spruce
#

i member

gusty mirage
rotund oak
slim hamlet
peak bobcat
storm forum
#

I almost said nyalotha and then I remembered how much I malded on carapace.

peak bobcat
#

and i was doing double the dps of some players

#

good times man

silk bane
#

I heard oxi is secretly a sanctum enjoyer

#

loved sylvanas

#

smh

peak bobcat
#

with a 200% shield on me at all times

#

holy fuck take me back

#

pooling

#

omg

#

flag cdr

slim hamlet
#

Bro is lost in the sauce

#

Just wait to when he wakes up to 2024 reality

keen spruce
#

remember going into Nathria week 1 as assas and doing like 60% the damage of everyone else smile_dog

peak bobcat
#

holy shit guys remember when assassination was fucking sick

gusty mirage
peak bobcat
#

shiv windows mattering

slim hamlet
gusty mirage
#

sorry I played sub

#

then I did council as sub

#

and I swapped outlaw

#

because fuck that

storm forum
peak bobcat
#

ive played sub every endboss of the last 4 tiers

#

get me out man

keen spruce
#

I played OL week 2 dead

rotund oak
gusty mirage
#

I BELIEVED IN THE DREAM

peak bobcat
#

it didnt matter

slim hamlet
peak bobcat
#

we were so trash in 10.1

gusty mirage
#

true

peak bobcat
#

literal raid buff bringer

gusty mirage
#

rogue was a bread vendor in the alley in 10.1

static glacier
#

.15 was okay thankfully

peak bobcat
#

i remember getting a 100 parse as sin on magmorax prog and i was like number 300 in the world

gusty mirage
#

lmfao

keen spruce
#

@gusty mirage I shot 1 over yesterday on the front 9 StarSmile

peak bobcat
#

this spec is surely good

gusty mirage
keen spruce
#

I fixed some things suskaygeagreegebusiness

static glacier
#

idk how they justified sin being as weak as it was in .1 when it couldn't do anything but st

peak bobcat
#

idc about anything more than 2 targets

#

just let me hit the boss harder than everyone else in the game

storm forum
#

10.1 I had a lot of fun healing as disc until the last boss and my team made me play holy.

silk bane
#

not true, they attempted to "fix" sin.

#

sin got a rework in 10.0.5

#

unlucky that they fucked it up

#

somehow

#

only spec to get a rework and become worse

static glacier
#

arterial precision xd

peak bobcat
#

tbf if kingsbane didnt have variance this spec would have been really fun

#

sin in m+ rn is a blast

vestal wren
#

assassiantion got the most attention during DF, there was a lot of effort making sure its good.
Sadly the tuning team did often play against this and made it not the dominant spec

royal lantern
silk bane
peak bobcat
#

those 43% aura buffs were pretty good

vestal wren
#

Shadowlands s1 was dark time

#

all 3 rogue specs ended up tuned low

silk bane
#

I heard oxi was an expert outlaw one trick back then

peak bobcat
#

hot take the covenant abilities were fun and the specs played good

vestal wren
#

with assassiantion having the worse tuning, later tuned into the best one tho

peak bobcat
#

flag and bone spike were very fun on sin, kyrian outlaw and kyrian and vent sub were extremely fun

wicked valve
#

So if fatebound is looking to be the play, do we switch to outlaw to play it?

peak bobcat
#

@gusty mirage snapshotting flag haste and vendetta assas in 9.2 was fun gameplay and i will stand behind this

#

bring back pooling and snapshotting!

storm forum
#

I'm still mad sepsis was shit until DF

silk bane
#

wym unitl

peak bobcat
#

that button sucks

silk bane
#

it ocntinued to be shit in df too

vestal wren
#

the weirdest one was late bfa sin with corruption

peak bobcat
#

sepsis has to be one of the most underwhelming buttons to press

silk bane
#

just had a slight not turbo shit moment in 10.1 for sin

vestal wren
#

when you essentially ignored your energy bar

subtle stream
storm forum
#

I was a big fan of late bfa sin tbh. I also did that sorta degen thing for 0 gain where I waited for my trinkets to proc before pressing exsang.

vestal wren
#

i liked the concept of covenants

#

4 zones with unique style, campain, worldquests, etc.

#

you can decide which fraction to join and unlock powers and a skill tree with customizations

#

the idea is good, the execution was flawed

peak bobcat
#

.

#

amen

quick pumice
#

Hey inhave a dumb question about garrote. If I have an empowered garrote on and apply a regular garrote at <6s. Do I lose those 6 seconds of empowered garrote or does it carry over?

peak bobcat
quick pumice
#

Ah ok. So basically wait till it's at 0 b4 reapplying?

subtle stream
#

Unless you vanish to reapply within the refresh window

peak bobcat
quick pumice
#

Ty ty :3

normal mist
#

Altought it had little to do with the question

#

It's kinda important

#

Since the st rotation changed

peak bobcat
#

as long as you reapply in the pandemic you are fine

normal mist
#

Iirc we want to vanish garrote when it is at around 6 seconds

peak bobcat
#

between 5.4 seconds and .1 seconds

normal mist
#

That's a really bad synced dm then

peak bobcat
#

how is it bad

normal mist
#

If you're vanishing at 0.1

peak bobcat
#

because your vanish will come back up 2 mins later

#

and you will be able to press it at the exact same time you pressed it

normal mist
#

Yeah and we already have to wait a few seconds and hold dm for vanish

peak bobcat
#

huh

normal mist
#

If instead of vanish garr at around 6 secs remaining you wait for 0.1, it's a whole 6 secs extra you're not DMing

peak bobcat
#

as long as your vanish is back up for the pandemic window it refreshes the emp garrote

normal mist
#

I'm talking about ST rotation, raid mainly

peak bobcat
#

its going to add 18 seconds at any time between 5.4 and 0 seconds

normal mist
#

I'm talking about 2nd vanish

#

First vanish at around 6secs remaining on 1st garr

drifting cloud
#

no more dance tyler, vanish is our only way to apply it

peak bobcat
#

so we are holding second DM for vanish and vanish garroting at the start of it

#

or what

quick pumice
peak bobcat
#

*opens wowhead guide

#

*is genuinely confused

#

where is cev when i need him mannnn

normal mist
#

I'll be afk a few minutes, once I'm back to PC I'll explain better (I'm on the phone ATM)

#

Cev retired

#

Poe gamer now

peak bobcat
#

you just line dm and vanish up after opener

#

zzz

worldly sentinel
peak bobcat
#

snapshotting died for this bruh

#

are we fr

normal mist
#

Yeah

#

Hopefully you now understand what I meant

subtle kiln
#

You’re just over complicating it. Pretend it’s like a 5 year old designed it.

peak bobcat
#

what did they do to my boy

#

do we pool for sanguine in tww

#

give me something at least

balmy condor
balmy condor
peak bobcat
#

fuck

subtle kiln
#

you could play triple Sectech dust subtlety if you need some challenges

verbal torrent
#

Picking rogue back up after a long while. Quick question with Shiv, do we only use it during KB or do we not want to sit on two charges?

normal mist
#

Kb only

#

2 charges there

peak bobcat
#

get me out

normal mist
#

And you never sit on 2 charges

#

(for a long time anyway)

clever sapphire
#

you "sit" on it until kb

subtle kiln
clever sapphire
#

the last one is not a choice

verbal torrent
clever sapphire
#

neither is the first

peak bobcat
#

a lot of new names in here

#

how long have i been gone

clever sapphire
#

assa is the only choice until dust is gone

peak bobcat
#

i thought there were like 4 rogue players in the world

normal mist
#

Years

subtle kiln
clever sapphire
#

do you play dust?

normal mist
#

Do you?

subtle kiln
peak bobcat
#

Can one of the three rogue specs just be good

#

pls blizzard

subtle kiln
#

assa can do everything. What do you want? OMEGAKEKW

normal mist
#

Last time we were bad was 1st tier of SL

peak bobcat
#

last time we were bad was aberrus

normal mist
#

?

peak bobcat
#

unless you count atrophic poison as being good

subtle kiln
grim jay
normal mist
clever sapphire
peak bobcat
#

rogue was bad in aberrus

static glacier
peak bobcat
#

sub was good at the meme aoe boss

balmy condor
#

I mean aberrus tuning overall was really good

static glacier
#

or you talking about all rogues

balmy condor
#

we were middle of the pack

peak bobcat
#

and we were extremely bad on the last boss

normal mist
balmy condor
#

happesn sometimes I guess

#

idk

peak bobcat
#

assa was aight after the buffs mid tier

static glacier
peak bobcat
#

rogue was cracked in 10.0

#

even after the nerfs

static glacier
#

I personally thinkt he st only niche considering our st was essentially the same as sub also devalued a bit

#

regardless of that rogue was good in 10.0 despite no aoe fun

peak bobcat
#

10.1

#

any sepsis enjoyers

#

Zzz

normal mist
#

I enjoyed sepsis in aberrus

static glacier
#

sepsis was aight

peak bobcat
#

sepsis is just inferior kb

#

kb with extra steps

static glacier
#

they're quite different but yeah it was a weaker nature dot

normal mist
balmy condor
#

I never really liked sepsis

#

but it was something different at least

peak bobcat
#

the empowered garrote was cool

#

but the spell itself does nothing

#

I am not even going to mention the E word

#

thats banned

subtle tundra
#

uhhh the E word? escaling?

sick sail
#

@balmy condor I appreciate the new upload. Thank you.

balmy condor
balmy condor
peak bobcat
#

everyones favorite button

slate crown
balmy condor
#

I mean if we're talking about "the spell itself doing nothing"

#

yeh

#

exsang is prime example

runic hinge
#

They shoulda made exsang aoe and juice your bleeds so every 45 seconds I could use old ic and exsang and just blast

balmy condor
#

nah

#

sanguine blades just strictly an upgrade

normal mist
royal lantern
haughty flicker
#

but with fairy dust

#

feint has no fairy dust

grim jay
verbal torrent
#

So managing dm with Improved Garrote is the priority- garrote>vanish>dm or vanish>dm>garrote?
sry for the questions. I haven't really played assassination since Legion lol.

slate crown
spice spire
royal lantern
normal mist
normal mist
royal lantern
normal mist
#

You had me giggling

#

good job

haughty flicker
royal lantern
#

splatter exists kekman

marble hemlock
#

lots of singletarget evis that did so much damage it counted as AoE if you hit every enemy with one at a time

normal mist
#

xD

#

Zul loved it

marble hemlock
#

well zul was just prio

#

but aoe was straightup fok>rupture repeat until you got dance ready, then fok > evis and tab target

#

black powder didnt exist yet and sectec sucked

royal lantern
#

the time before Betaanimation Powder

#

where sub aoe was "hit evisc more often" dracthyr_kek

rotund oak
stable coral
#

can anyone tell me why im getting unstealthed after 2-10seconds everytime i stealth? vanish also doesnt put me into stealth

balmy condor
#

!stealthbreak

prisma monolithBOT
#

Stealth can break from:

  • Evoker legendary buff expiring and bouncing back to the Evoker.
  • Ominous Chromatic Essence trinket on buff gain
  • Voice of the Silent Star when wearing it yourself
  • Misterweaver soothing mist when talented into Unison
  • Blossom of Amirdrassil (trinket) initial hot dropping/spreading
  • Vicious brand (Signet trinket self damage)
stable coral
#

got it, ty

ionic kiln
#

I think my rupture and my garrote is disappearing before the time runs out on the event bossees.

balmy condor
#

Given how nothing about the event works I don’t doubt it

ionic kiln
#

Cool, cool, cool.

balmy condor
#

My guildie had flying NPC’s

stable coral
#

had flying npcs aswell

fleet pagoda
#

is there a cap on dots a boss can have? im' assuming everything is just getting overwritten

vernal hatch
#

have u had them not spawn as well

#

super fun interaction

balmy condor
fleet pagoda
#

i can apply my dots a little after the fight starts and they'll remain, but they're gone if i open with them

balmy condor
#

They fixed it at the start of I think like shadowlands maybe

#

With world bosses

#

And rares in the maw

#

Those mfers

#

Had multiple 40 man groups on them

#

Was wild

fleet pagoda
#

i'm surprised it was so late that the caps would be removed

balmy condor
#

It just wasn’t needed before

manic quartz
#

would you deathmark+kb on pull at smolderon or save to intermission?

glad lark
#

was once 16 lol

balmy condor
golden spoke
#

Hi quick question will signet brand be good for progess at the beging of tww?

balmy condor
#

No

#

Nothing will be

#

You’ll replace all your gear during leveling

golden spoke
#

Even thou fights will be longer

balmy condor
#

Yes ofc