assassination

[runic hinge]

[shrewd night]

https://tenor.com/view/convoke-druid-warcraft-feral-gif-25565356

[royal lantern]

exposed

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-kisses-lick-love-kiss-gif-15699359

[fleet pagoda]

[subtle tundra]

mods, ban this guy

[runic hinge]

Channel kinda sus rn

[normal mist]

First I was afraid, I was terrified

[grim jay]

And now you like it...?

[normal mist]

No, now I'm going back to #transmog

[shrewd night]

Just wait until whispyr is on a drunk bender again

[normal mist]

[subtle tundra]

how do you make a blender drunk

[shrewd night]

[grim jay]

Fill it with alcohol.

Think first before you ask.

[subtle tundra]

i have not gotten drunk in a month

this is horrible

i will die

[shrewd night]

Everyone dies.

[normal mist]

Rookie numbers

[grim jay]

I usually go like 3-4 months between drinking

[subtle tundra]

well i dont think ill get drunk any time soon

[normal mist]

I was never drunk

[raven egret]

I'll need to get drunk every raid night, the coin isn't pretty enough to look at I need some liquid courage...

[subtle tundra]

play drinkstalker

[clever sapphire]

same

[normal mist]

I knew you were cool, but not that cool

[grim jay]

Dang nerds

[clever sapphire]

im usually the one in the group that holds the bottle so we dont lose it

[normal mist]

LOL

[grim jay]

I never smoked a cigarette tho, not even tried it.

[clever sapphire]

and i like laughing at the guys being drunk

[grim jay]

Atleast smth

[runic hinge]

I drank every day for 12 days until yesterday.

[subtle tundra]

hey dont laugh AT them, laugh with them 😉

[clever sapphire]

couldnt even if i wanted to, i get a headache just by smelling a cigarette for like 20-30 seconds

[runic hinge]

Ain’t nothing like being 6 beers deep and smoking a Marlboro red.

[clever sapphire]

ye meant that

buta lso laugh at them

[subtle tundra]

ive tried so hard to start smoking but i just cant like it

[shrewd night]

Out of all the things

"God, I just feel so passionate about smoking"

????

[subtle tundra]

its legally ok to laugh at smokers

[grim jay]

Yeah its probably something only smokers understand

I cant even imagine being addicted to something so eeww

[runic hinge]

I’m not even addicted. I haven’t had a cigarette in 9 days. There’s just something about them when I’m drunk that hits

[grim jay]

Bad things happen with enough alcohol

Like no matter what they serve you, that kebab always was the best you ever had

[quartz escarp]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Mast = Crit = Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs like Witherbark's Branch and Wafting Devotion can often de-value the stat in question. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

[vestal cliff]

does anyone has the problem, that plater name plates and omnicc both showing bleed timers , so it overlaps on the target?

[grim jay]

No but it sounds like you should disable it on one or the other

[vague dagger]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• You can add in some sanguine/rupture value from carnage, but chaining allows for higher uptime and smoother energy overall, eliminating a lot of ramp at the start of a pull
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths (chain heavy spiteful weeks are only about -30% on stealths)
• You still have vanish which gives you plenty of options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[agile spire]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[arctic tusk]

how is sin looking was is it in dire need of the buffs? and what specfiicaly is looking strong/weak

[balmy condor]

The beta buffs from earlier were pretty much on par with expected value

Impossible to know if it needs more or other specs need less

That’s up to blizzard to check their internal benchmarks

They have tuning targets for these things

[arctic tusk]

sounds about right

is our ST or AOE looking particularly better or worse? talent wise

obvi not everything is accurate yet

[balmy condor]

Exactly the same as now

[arctic tusk]

gotcha

[balmy condor]

Fatebound just kinda fits on top of everything with 0 thought

Deathstalker fits on top of everything with very cringe gameplay in aoe and pushes envenom more

Would assume that if you’re playing deathstalker in m+, you’re probably full committing to a cleave build

So basically not relevant unless you’re an m+ title haver

[arctic tusk]

i wonder how often we'll be changing hero talents in raid

[balmy condor]

At least twice

There’s two fights where deathstalker is just unbearably difficult to play for no benefit

First boss and second to last

Could also make the argument for second boss being stupid with deathstalker

Basically any time where you need to hard swap targets or your target disappears for more than 5 seconds

Is not playable

[indigo mulch]

Honestly, i really like the thought of these hero talents, i just wish maybe it would be an actual subclass so you maybe had some cool visual thing to go along with it. I just cant force myself to enjoy deathstalker gameplay. :c

[arctic tusk]

i did a light read on the talents but what makes it so bad? is it just impossible to use darkest night's 3 deathstalker marks

without those bosses leaving or something*

[fringe oxide]

I think I'll just stick to the fatebound tree. I won't notice anything, but also I won't notice anything.

[subtle tundra]

you might notice the dps diff

[little valley]

Hey guys, i picked up rogue yesterday, so sorry for the (maybe) dumb question
In AoE you wann spread garrote and rupture to as many targets as feasable (5-6?)
In our opener, indicriminate carnage does that, afterwards we go to the kingsbane window.
Do i start to targetswitch only AFTER the kingbane window or also during if garrote and rupture ticks out on the other targets?
Thank you!

[grim jay]

Well you need to hit the marked target for mark benefits and can only swap off if you triggered all marks or the target dies (mostly triggering marks first in raid ig)

Which wouldnt be like that if the mark would be a selfbuff

[royal lantern]

@balmy condor i gues them buffing envenom is the thing that fully kills "play around sanguine in ST" huh

like, ik that we probs allready would have not done it, but that feels like the final nail for it

[jaunty dew]

So I was wondering about DS in raids, how exactly do we consume all 9 stacks of DM to get the capstone? Won't ambush keep refreshing it endlessly?

[normal mist]

No

It's only stealth ambush

[midnight mist]

why

[normal mist]

Not proc ambush

[balmy condor]

What

[balmy condor]

It’s a max of 3 and only stealth ambush

[jaunty dew]

So under no circumstance do we ambush in vanish, got ya

Unless the mark drops off and we need to refresh it

[balmy condor]

That’s not what I said

[subtle tundra]

what fully kills bleeds is the existance of spatter

[balmy condor]

But if you have marks

Ambush won’t refresh it

So it’s pointless

[jaunty dew]

So if for some god forsaken reason mark falls off because of a mechanic or some other thing, and vanish is on CD, basically DS is doing nothing?

[subtle tundra]

👍

[jaunty dew]

Does mark persists through death like poisons? for example getting battle rez?

[royal lantern]

10% envenom buff

that will push us even more into a "ignore that sanguin blades exists" direction

thats what i mean

[balmy condor]

First boss intermission adds die too quick and you’re stuck wanting to dot but needing to use the capstone and you don’t have time to get caustic up and also use the envenom at the same time so you’re just stuck in purgatory

Second to last the boss disappears during intermission, but it doesn’t die so you don’t get a capstone proc, which means you gotta either stand there and look dumb with your capstone cause you can’t apply a mark ~15 seconds before intermission or you lose it

[balmy condor]

Probably not enough

[midnight mist]

i see

[royal lantern]

wasnt sanguine allready kinda weak cus bleed dmg is not that great

[balmy condor]

I mean the problem is that rapid injection isn’t enough of a replacement for the tier to enable chaining in the same way

And the envenom buff is too long

Like chaining only works under the pretense that it’s worth chaining to the point of pooling that high and you don’t already have 100% envenom uptime

[royal lantern]

so wait, do we try to be above 50% for sanguine now, or not

https://tenor.com/view/loading-cat-help-gif-26762519

[grim jay]

Wonder what they could do to fix it tho. Small changes id think would be positive would include:
DN not dropping until consumption and beginning combat with DN
Having a button that swaps marks over

[unborn yacht]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[grim jay]

Doubt they will do anything bigger like making the mark a buff instead of debuff or smth

[royal lantern]

"rupture applies deathmatk"

soooooo many of its application problems solved in an instant

[balmy condor]

No?

[royal lantern]

so literally just "keep envenom running, ignore energy"

[grim jay]

Probably just the same as now

[hardy dagger]

Can't believe they have not changed deathmark application

[royal lantern]

its not that different ye

its just that you dont wait for energy to fill up

but "envenom at 1-2 sec of envenom left" is how you get high uptime anyway

[grim jay]

I mean chaining basically means pooling still tho

Unless im stupid

(as always, but even more so)

[plain hawk]

Hi Im new here (:
"All of your cp-builders apply caustic spatter" no special conditions like having rupture on the target, to make the playstyle more fluid and quick.

[balmy condor]

Ye it’s literally max envenom uptime and whatever happens happens

[grim jay]

It is fluid tho and just 1 gcd less in terms of quick

[balmy condor]

They don’t want this and said as much for 10.2

[grim jay]

I dont think making it entirely passive is great either

We love tracking things

[balmy condor]

Yeah I mean it’s supposed to be you purposefully picking a target

Most situations you’re already got rupture on the target you want

So it’s not even that big of a difference

It’s just very specifically if you’re target swapping a bunch

[clever sapphire]

this is getting even closer to just outlaws bladeflurry 🤔

[balmy condor]

What if we just make it a button with a toggle on/off

And as a downside it could like

Reduce energy regen or something

[royal lantern]

imagine that BF with the current outlaw playerbase

[balmy condor]

MY
ENERGY

[clever sapphire]

i wish to see that

i mean the outlaw rage

losing acro made them lose their minds already

[quiet oar]

I take the energy tax for uncap

[clever sapphire]

how about neither

[muted ridge]

oh I just noticed Beta channels are gone or maybe im blind. Are there still somewhere reccomended builds to play around during raid testing ?

[balmy condor]

But think about the FLOW of the spec man

[royal lantern]

wdym my resource bar is supposed to matter???????

look at "insert any other non rogue class" they dont have to play around resource to use abilitys, just ignore that they have resources that enable them to do dmg in the first place and the stuff bettwen them is mostly just resource generating filler

[balmy condor]

11.0 builds are in the pins and wowhead guides take one and throw the hero talents on top

[muted ridge]

goated ,ty

[quiet oar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1184888068264689756/1240403148129046539/Screenshot_2024-05-15_223846.gif

What Flow?

[balmy condor]

THE FLOW MAN

YOU DONT GET IT

[quiet oar]

This looks like cata, just replace bte with eviscarate

[shrewd night]

The only numerical tuning that is acceptable for outlaw is the x yard attack range variable

[quiet oar]

True

[safe locust]

!tar

[potent raven]

goes Hard

[quiet oar]

Is feral 5yarda now

Or 8

[shrewd night]

Same as everyone else

Armin opened my eyes to the truth

[quiet oar]

[muted ridge]

this includes Blindside proc right?

[royal lantern]

nope, ofc not

[muted ridge]

[quiet oar]

I dont think so

Because from stealth

Subterfuge should count

[shrewd night]

What if you use blindside proc from stealth??

[quiet oar]

But maybe doesnt

[quiet oar]

Universe explodes

[gusty mirage]

Ion shows up to your house and mushroom stamps you right on the forehead

[shrewd night]

Pft, I dont need that, I just say Hazzikostas three times in front of the mirror

[quiet oar]

If you say ion hazzikostas 3 Times in a row to a mirror at mid night, ion appears and will nerf your class

[muted ridge]

just say that boss is mathematically impossible and he will shadowstep at you

[shrewd night]

[gusty mirage]

[quiet oar]

Lol

Wtf

[shrewd night]

GET FUCKED IDIOT

[balmy condor]

Subterfuge does work

[gusty mirage]

We love a good cthun throwback

[balmy condor]

But subterfuge sucks so you gotta ambush first gcd from stealth/vanish

[muted ridge]

so we on opener get as many stacks as we can and new stacks only from vanish onwards?

sounds shit

[quiet oar]

Stop stealing my message before i can send it

[balmy condor]

What

No

You ambush once

[muted ridge]

if so

[gusty mirage]

Does that mean subterfuge works with our new godly leech talent?

[balmy condor]

And then you play the capstone forever

[balmy condor]

I don’t think it’s hooked up

[shrewd night]

Is this Meownar Messagestealer in the room with you right now?

[gusty mirage]

[muted ridge]

I see now, its in cycle

ty Whisp

[gusty mirage]

What a shit talent

[quiet oar]

No but in my dreams

The special Kind of dreams

[shrewd night]

[worldly sail]

non outlaws talking about acro range

[brazen oasis]

where did the beta builds get moved to?

[balmy condor]

The pins

[brazen oasis]

but not with hero talents right?

[balmy condor]

Yeah

[brazen oasis]

good

thought i was blind

[balmy condor]

You just add hero talents

[royal lantern]

outlaw, acro + blue cap in the name and zac pfp copycat speaking

[worldly sail]

mald about it

[quiet oar]

But

He is Red

Check mate

[clever sapphire]

real outlaws are not yellow anymore

[grim jay]

Sees red

If acro gets mentioned

[quiet oar]

True

[royal lantern]

thats totally not because they all are on their overly dramatic "outlaw is DEAD" train right

[grim jay]

Real outlaws dont cry about everything

[balmy condor]

What was the argument again, outlaw doesn’t do any like any other spec in the game and so therefore acro is required for it but not others and it loses more than every other spec cause uptime and cdr

[grim jay]

(nearly extinct)

[worldly sail]

no im playing sin

[balmy condor]

Outlaw players tying themselves into fucking knots

Trying to come up with an argument for why they’re actually the most oppressed spec

[quiet oar]

Wdym Outlaw is not the Main character???

[worldly sail]

i sure love losing cdr on sin when im out of melee for a few seconds

[balmy condor]

Boohoo

[grim jay]

But uptime brother, outlaw suffers so much from low uptime

[shrewd night]

[clever sapphire]

outlaw should by default have more range than many other melee specs since they shoot their guns

[midnight mist]

is that wrong

[royal lantern]

dae assa bleeds do dmg when walking away, so its not punished by downtime????

[grim jay]

They should just become a ranged spec because they sure as hell cry like one

[quiet oar]

!!!!!!!

[royal lantern]

i mean, they have, on their gun skills

[shrewd night]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-ight-imma-head-out-bye-gif-14924635

[balmy condor]

I mean at its core no, but y’all pretend like you’re the only melee spec in the game that has to auto attack things

Which is dumb as shit

[grim jay]

Stay with us, mighty meownar, lord of boundaries

[balmy condor]

It’s like “assa is better with downtime” all over again

[midnight mist]

not true tho

[quiet oar]

Messagestealer

[earnest remnant]

we should have a celebratory day, the day acro goes un mentioned for one day

[midnight mist]

these are all the arguments i could come up with

is it wrong

[balmy condor]

Yes it has dots but thinking it has free reign to just walk away from mobs is silly

[midnight mist]

didnt even mention melees once

[quiet oar]

Why would you need that, because the game will be dead at that point

[clever sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-creed-in-your-dreams-dreams-gif-25984561

[spice surge]

Well the noo cooldowns thing could be seen as a positive sometimes

[stuck knoll]

Oh we are doing it in assa now

[spice surge]

Since losing uptime as outlaw is less impactful than losing uptime during cds as sub/assa

[midnight mist]

they started, not me

[balmy condor]

Yeah you can easily just flip this like eleem said

[normal mist]

Morning Ronkley

[midnight mist]

Ye except CDs last like 20s at most is the point

[balmy condor]

Your problems exist but they are in no way unique

[midnight mist]

You send your cds when you know you won't lose uptime

[stuck knoll]

[quiet oar]

Acro should be a filtered word

[shrewd night]

The feeling when the screenshot also defends giving feral 3y extra range

IM WITH ZAC ON THIS ONE.

[midnight mist]

Don't think any other spec has ALL these issues at the same time

[midnight mist]

I mean

I also don't mind

Any other spec

Wanting acro

[limber lion]

Oh we're having a party in my channel, sick

[midnight mist]

Because game sucks without it so

[quiet oar]

I mean technically only feral and rogue "suffer"

[spice surge]

Did somebody forget to clean your litterbox today or what

[quiet oar]

From. It

Because survival and ret have ranged abilities anyways

[shrewd night]

Yeah, used your chair as replacement litter box

[clever sapphire]

i really timed making popcorn well, just sat down with it when the show started

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/meow-dancing-cat-cat-dancing-meow-meow-meow-gif-14608759981751543562

[narrow basalt]

Acrogeddon has begun..

[spice surge]

Oh shit

I thought it was just me

[shrewd night]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-cat-funny-smite-gif-17567204071102087896

[grim jay]

Sounds to me like they should remove the gcd capped nature of outlaw

[spice surge]

./smite @shrewd night

[lone parrot]

gosh, I am having many funs with ass rogue now. Tbh, more than I was having before

[shrewd night]

[midnight mist]

My main argument in this whole thing anyway is that I like having fun and I want to continue having fun

[clever sapphire]

okay, is it really an acro problem or a blizzard putting every single mechanic in melee range problem?

[midnight mist]

in a video game

[grim jay]

Sounds good. Its a really fun spec

[earnest remnant]

./banana @shrewd night

[stuck knoll]

Smart avoid the risk of bananaing with .

[narrow basalt]

Tbh ST is not as fun for me rn. But aoe and cleave is still as fun 🥶

[shrewd night]

Zine

[stuck knoll]

GOD DAMNIT STEALTHI

[grim jay]

Spec design problem

[magic fossil]

how do you guys have fun in wow? Have to pay extra?

[lone parrot]

my standards are very low

[clever sapphire]

man i dont get why people say this. Nothing really changed in ST besides no dance yet people say its not as fun anymore

[lone parrot]

after playing csgo semi-professionally for 6 years, I have fun watching paint dry in the rain

[grim jay]

Why wouldnt it be? Kinda curious about your opinion on that. (I personally dont like spaming skills, so im fine with it being slower)

[shrewd night]

Removing shadow dance was a 10x modifier to having fun

[narrow basalt]

I mean people like to say NOTHING has changed, which is just not 100% true. The little changes that came with it ruined it a tiny bit for me. Still fun enough tho. I was always a sucker for beeg kingsbane hit.

[grim jay]

You are a 10x modifier to my happyness

[limber lion]

All specs in the game want to maximize uptime, not really a unique thing for Outlaw. Assa losing stacks during KB gg no good, Sub wasting ShT gg no good. Anyways...

[stuck knoll]

Honestly respect that I can hardly play more than 2 CS games in a row before I need a break

[clever sapphire]

hmm i guess i can somewhat understand that

[limber lion]

Says the person who doesn't even play the spec...

[lone parrot]

I am now clinically insane

[clever sapphire]

i cant play CS since it went from csgo to CS2

[shrewd night]

Man, I gave it a good try

And I just couldnt

[lone parrot]

yeah cs2 is dogshit

[limber lion]

:'(

[narrow basalt]

Yeah its shite now

[royal lantern]

he is our Discord Kitten, its ok

[shrewd night]

[grim jay]

Most people macroed dance, so it not changing anything is kinda true, only the timings on vanish, shiv and tea changed. Kb doing less damage is pretty healthy ngl

[narrow basalt]

Yeah totally fine with slower gameplay. Just random little tidbits I dont like as much. Like no vanish in kv might’ve been a good move by them, but personally I liked it a lot. Just preference ig.

[royal lantern]

and kb doing less dmg has nothing to do with dance anyway, that was a general change to make it less RNG and the majority of your dmg

[narrow basalt]

I am by no means saying there were any super bad changes, just for me personally it is a little less fun.

[stuck knoll]

Feral: [Added] Meowmeow Dance, always a druid in cat form to use all their meowmeow abilities without prowling

[normal mist]

You liked it or you were used to it?

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shaking-wiggle-gif-15656361

[shrewd night]

[normal mist]

Because vanishing to just really garrote feels better to me than to gain MA for a big kb boom

That could or could not not boom

[stuck knoll]

Yikes yourself bud

[grim jay]

I liked having all the kb setup and then hearing the parry sound

[shrewd night]

Is yikes a replacement word?????

Oh my god ronkles

[grim jay]

I live for those emotional moments

And the feelings

[narrow basalt]

Both. But I really really liked assassination in s4 and s3.

[rotund oak]

https://tenor.com/bUNpd.gif

[bronze plover]

hi sry one question what does it means in guide 5+ does it mean that we can spend on exactly on 5 combo or 6/7 combo?

[grim jay]

Wtf why does it look so funny

[normal mist]

If you have 5 or more

[rotund oak]

its koffing irl wdym

its funny af

😄

[balmy condor]

I mean sure but other specs have other issues, what's the loss like on a heavy movement sim

[bronze plover]

does it mean we can fiinish on 5?

[balmy condor]

I can't imagine outlaw loss going from say patchwerk 5 target to heavy movement 5 target

[normal mist]

Yes

[royal lantern]

but its literally the same in every single way except that vanish is used a couple seconds more early and that you dont pray for kingsbane crits anymore

like, nothing changed in gameplay

[balmy condor]

is any more than assa for example

[royal lantern]

i dont get it

[balmy condor]

if it is, it's probably within like 1 or 2% diff no?

[clever sapphire]

ER, you just dont get the ER hate

[narrow basalt]

ER would like to have a chat. (I know I know you’ll say dont pay attention to it after its used), but ER is just so lame imo 😭

[normal mist]

Bro yesterday I was trying out ER in a dummy and legit got all 3 blue cps within 3 mutilates

[narrow basalt]

I feel seen.

[grim jay]

ER is only an issue if you dont play it right

[clever sapphire]

ye getting the er CPs is so easy

[clever sapphire]

you mean not playing for it at all right?

[narrow basalt]

Like I said, nothing wrong with sin rn.. just a little less fun for me 😎 still fun enough to stick around tho.

[normal mist]

You press it, there's a cool animation and then you wait for the cps to align

[clever sapphire]

best moment in keys with bonespike build is pressing er before a pull and still having like the 3rd cp up, i garrote -> 7 cp rupture 3 targets instantly into another 7 cp rupture into garrote spam

thats such a good feeling

[grim jay]

Can use some trickery to get the lowest one and other than that you just let it happen

[normal mist]

HE GETS IT

[royal lantern]

nah, fuck ER, all covenant abilitys should die in a ditch and finally be forgoten

forgot er

[lone parrot]

based

[normal mist]

Sepsis was cool too

I loved s2

[grim jay]

I mean you already gave the issue a name. Bonespike build

[royal lantern]

lazy af filler shit they put into the class tree cus they had nothing else and it was rushed af

[narrow basalt]

Same

[clever sapphire]

i think having dance ruined sepsis for me, so i would accept it back if it wasnt competing with bonespike

[lone parrot]

this guy cooking

[clever sapphire]

bonespike build in keys is the best

[grim jay]

way to make sure you do something weird*

[midnight mist]

Idk never tried doing these type of sims it's a bit weird and I don't even know if we support them properly, and is that really a fair comparaison, won't a sin player try to find a window to send their cooldowns, while outlaw is supposed to find this window for 100% of the fight
Anyway, don't want to talk about this in this channel I will just get clowned on on cd, I just was summoned out of my will

[narrow basalt]

😅

[balmy condor]

nothing really to support, it just forces you off the boss on intervals so you can't cast

but idk

I keep clowning because the argument is always that outlaw is unique in an issue of downtime

and it really isn't

I'll concede it's probably slightly worse

[midnight mist]

Yes but you wouldn't lose uptime during your cds otherwise it's just skill issue

[balmy condor]

but it's so overblown

[narrow basalt]

Cleave cleave cleave cleave

[clever sapphire]

i need an explanation on how you could not like the bonespike build

[lone parrot]

whats a fella gotta do to get the worst rogue icon on his name?

[balmy condor]

[normal mist]

Fun haters

[balmy condor]

not like I can convince you otherwise anyway

[midnight mist]

Same

[narrow basalt]

Play ER/KIR 😤

[earnest remnant]

both of you are wrong sub loses the most, because i said so

[clever sapphire]

cleave build is just outlaw but with a cooldown

[earnest remnant]

and im the oldest of the three of us

so im in charge of that decision

[narrow basalt]

LMFAO DONT

[earnest remnant]

[grim jay]

It has no zoldyck
Bonespike imo doesnt really add fun
It has no zoldyck

[midnight mist]

My main argument anyway, will always be about fun, and outlaw had that fun utility since forever, and I would like keeping my fun, because after all wow is a video game

Which we often forget about

[balmy condor]

I'm willing to be convinced, no one can give me any numbers to back it up it's always just "you don't get it you're not an outlaw player"

[midnight mist]

Tbf it wasn't always like that

[clever sapphire]

having a bit more melee range = more fun is totally understandable to me

[midnight mist]

It wasn't as egregious until s3

And ye you probably don't get it if you don't play outlaw lol

[balmy condor]

yeh melee range = fun I can get behind

[clever sapphire]

i dunno, the cp refill with rupture casts is fun

[balmy condor]

no melee range = outlaw literally DEAD spec UNPLAYABLE gameplay MASSIVE dps loss

I cannot get behind

because that's just brainless doom

[grim jay]

Maybe its time for the Lawspyr arc and you gotta experience it to tell us how bad it is/isnt

[narrow basalt]

I mean I totally agree that outlaw was a little more fun with extra melee range.

[lone parrot]

who needs numbers to know something to be true?

[hexed willow]

I keep trying to use garrote after kingsbane

How do I unlearn stupidity

[clever sapphire]

unbind garrote

[lone parrot]

unbind garrote

[clever sapphire]

[lone parrot]

jinx

[balmy condor]

true, numbers are meaningless anyway very real

[midnight mist]

Idk how I could ever get numbers on that anyway

I will keep fighting my battle

Outlaw will be fun again

[hexed willow]

But I don’t want to unbind my favorite dot o push ever 15s

[clever sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/arcane-live-jinx-reaction-reaction-jinx-meme-gif-4057162584221336454

[lone parrot]

ill just edit my files to make it look like im doing 15mil dps

[narrow basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/world-of-warcraft-world-of-warcraft-classic-rogue-rogue-pv-p-gif-18999746

[midnight mist]

Good luck bleed enjoyers

[balmy condor]

let me know if you ever have any evidence

more than happy to hear it

[lone parrot]

bleed is superior

[clever sapphire]

but ye just play a few keys and you will get used to it

[hexed willow]

fair

[clever sapphire]

well atleast doing keys helped me

[royal lantern]

use "/cast abilityname" like a normal person

[hexed willow]

Until mop remix ends

[clever sapphire]

i still only played mop remix for like 5 levels

you cant force me to level another rogue

i already did 3

[torn shadow]

Where does one find the bonespike build for m+?

[royal lantern]

it takes like 1-2 hours from start to max lvl now lmao

[lone parrot]

im not a macro guy, im not a bind guy. Hell, I ain't even a clicking guy...I type all my abilities individually

[clever sapphire]

wowhead -> talent pages (or whatever the tab is called)

[narrow basalt]

But panda..

[narrow basalt]

I use voice activation.

Stay mad losers.

[clever sapphire]

isnt that assuming you already leveld something in remix and have that upgrade thingy maxed?

[lone parrot]

thats it, im buying a DDR pad

[narrow basalt]

[lone parrot]

"GARROTE, FAN OF KNIVES, FAN OF KNIVES, RUPTURE, MUTILATE"

[hexed willow]

Mop helped me level my rogue replacement

[lone parrot]

dumbledore said calmly

[narrow basalt]

My neighbours love me I swear

[grim jay]

Imagine having neighbours close enough to hear you

Smh my head

[royal lantern]

ye, but it still will not take more then 4-5 hours for the first character now if all you do is questing and nothing else

[lone parrot]

im sure they are totally unperturbed by you yelling MUTILATE at the top of your lungs

[clever sapphire]

i hate questing, i hate leveling and i hate not max lvl rogue

[grim jay]

Sorry you hate everything

[clever sapphire]

alls good

i love bonespike

[grim jay]

Except bonespike

[narrow basalt]

Yeah I have gotten some letters in my mailbox.

[clever sapphire]

[lone parrot]

I love rogues, I have 4 of them at max level and 2 more I am levelling. But I hate levelling rogues

I need more rogues

[narrow basalt]

I love level 11 rogue with 3 energy and a butter knife.

[clever sapphire]

but tbh i need 1 more rogue so that i have 4 rogues on the warband screen thingy...

[lone parrot]

I need one rogue for each spec, and every single race as each spec

[narrow basalt]

I need one for fury rogue and unholy rogue.

[clever sapphire]

thats like... (counting in head)... atleast 3 rogues

[lone parrot]

I cant count that high

[narrow basalt]

You are good with numbers aren’t you.

Bet you are like a numbers guy or something

[lone parrot]

I can only count up to the amount of poisons I can apply to my weapons

[clever sapphire]

what can i say, im a mathematician

[clever sapphire]

ha i caught you redhanded, you can apply 4 poisons yet you cant count to 3?

[lone parrot]

I aint running dtb

fool

[long island]

hi

[narrow basalt]

I can’t even reach close enough to apple poisons without acro 😭

[long island]

is assasination stronger then sub?

[fresh sphinx]

who knows, it's prepatch lol

[long island]

mb thats why im asking

[grim jay]

Why do you want apple in your poisons

Wouldnt you rather poison the apples

[clever sapphire]

i am not qualified to answer this question, but i am biased enough to say that it is

[lone parrot]

yeah who are you, the witch in snow white, whatever her name was?

the wicked witch of the north

[narrow basalt]

Both. Snow white and all that.

Damn beat me to it

[lone parrot]

[narrow basalt]

[narrow basalt]

I heard that it’s even stronger than holy priests spamming holy nova..

[edgy pawn]

following the bis gear guide on wowhead, how do i do fire damage as sin to proc the ring? or do we use it just because the stats are good?

[spice surge]

helm enchant

and grieftorch

That doesnt maximize the procs of the ring, but the proc on the ring is just an extra on top of a regular ring so it doesnt cost you anything

And your goal isnt the maximize the proc of the ring, its to maximize the damage you do

[edgy pawn]

alright, thanks!

[mellow copper]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• You can add in some sanguine/rupture value from carnage, but chaining allows for higher uptime and smoother energy overall, eliminating a lot of ramp at the start of a pull
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths (chain heavy spiteful weeks are only about -30% on stealths)
• You still have vanish which gives you plenty of options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[glass vine]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[forest nacelle]

having 7 CP is so nice

for pooling

[quiet oar]

[grim jay]

[quiet oar]

Can you explain what 7 cp does for pooling when we finish at 5+ anyways

[unborn yacht]

off topic, but now that you can hide all the armor pieces, mog collectors are DEFINETLY going to expect underwear recolor options.

[quiet oar]

Imagine being able to dye your transmog

[forest nacelle]

more envenom time

[grim jay]

@normal mist drag this person into #transmog

[indigo comet]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• You can add in some sanguine/rupture value from carnage, but chaining allows for higher uptime and smoother energy overall, eliminating a lot of ramp at the start of a pull
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths (chain heavy spiteful weeks are only about -30% on stealths)
• You still have vanish which gives you plenty of options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[quiet oar]

Well this is more the horny part of that, so it would be better to drag the person to https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1170654455973294110

[forest nacelle]

more envenom time, you don't always land on 5 CP, and Echo makes them 7 CP always

[quiet oar]

Well ER would do 7 cp anyways

[forest nacelle]

yea

[normal mist]

I was summoned

[forest nacelle]

which is SOOOOOOO nice

[quiet oar]

but i see the point that you might get more than 5 cp

[forest nacelle]

summoned you say?

[quiet oar]

by pressing normal builders

[normal mist]

I mean some races have already

[clever sapphire]

horny fits here tho

[quiet oar]

Yes, but it was also about transmog

you knwo

[clever sapphire]

i gueeeess

[hexed willow]

I hate ER

[unborn yacht]

I second this

[quiet oar]

and ER hates you!

[clever sapphire]

just git gud guys

[unborn yacht]

just reroll hutner

[clever sapphire]

why cant you be positive like lunchmeat

[limber lion]

ER good

[narrow basalt]

[clever sapphire]

ER > Dance

i said it

[royal lantern]

nothing>Er>dance

[clever sapphire]

hmm fair enough i guess, im just keeping my choices within the existing class tree

[quiet oar]

ER > other covenants abilities

[spice lagoon]

sin feels good rn

[rotund oak]

true and real

[spice lagoon]

i dont even have 4 set yet

[clever sapphire]

Bonespike >>>>>>> every other covenant ability

[spice lagoon]

how is bonespike

[rotund oak]

false premise

[grim jay]

Idk flag is best

Fight me

[quiet oar]

Its ok, you are still waiting for your CP from terros

[grim jay]

[clever sapphire]

i love bonespike so personally the bonespike m+ build is the best

[grim jay]

[spice lagoon]

good to know..

[normal mist]

1st iteration of flagellation super pog

Right?

[clever sapphire]

so why are you blue like ER and not red like Flag, checkmate

[quiet oar]

The first and every other iteration of you are super pog

[quiet oar]

You are so real for that

[spice lagoon]

deathstalker you got the m plus build?

[grim jay]

Because

https://tenor.com/view/blue-color-gif-26141033

[normal mist]

Damn, where did you learn to be that smooth

[clever sapphire]

just go onto wowhead and copy it from there, should be under the talent pages tab

[spice lagoon]

okay bet

[normal mist]

I got mine from Whispyr's video

[clever sapphire]

great now i got an earworm

[quiet oar]

My female best friend

[grim jay]

Youre welcome

[quiet oar]

was the victim of many compliments

trainign over years

[grim jay]

Oh look at me

I got friends

Female friends

And compliments

[quiet oar]

I know her from wow

????

[grim jay]

Ok Mr Worldwide

[normal mist]

I got a girlfriend, all the other "girls" are now bros

[grim jay]

[quiet oar]

SHE IS FROM GERMANY !?

[forest nacelle]

ty 😄

[grim jay]

But.. Its.. World.. Of warcraft?

Ha

[clever sapphire]

i kinda figured out that build in the beta channel when i was trying to make a bonespike build (the build was probably already posted somewhere but i never saw it), so in my head im the inventor of the bonespike build

[quiet oar]

If you dont shut your mouth real quick, ill make war with your mouth and my lips

[grim jay]

Is that a threat or a promise

[quiet oar]

Try me

[rotund oak]

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-gif-11816971814746635421

[ashen oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/ew-brotha-eww-meme-eww-eww-gif-gif-1452572770363109714

[quiet oar]

???

Any Problems Elf ?

[ashen oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/haram-andrew-tate-haram-tate-yoga-fire-gif-26371872

[normal mist]

This is peak channel

[ashen oriole]

so nice of you to ask. no i don't have problems right now 😄

[normal mist]

Get used to it

[quiet oar]

Good otherwise i have to degrade you from a 11 out of 100 to a 1

[grim jay]

You know what, royal, you are peak beauty

[ashen oriole]

i enjoy posting that gifso i can get used to that without problem 😄

[ashen oriole]

i am 2x a 1

[rotund oak]

we cookin' some 3s?I can log my mage

[grim jay]

Kinda weird oxi didnt appear today so far

[quiet oar]

Its a joke

you only get speaking german

[rotund oak]

[grim jay]

Im german and I dont get it

[normal mist]

You and tira making me wonder if I should dump my gf

[quiet oar]

Because his name is Elf

[rotund oak]

language barrier

[quiet oar]

and Elf is eleven

[ashen oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/fist-fight-fist-fight-film-ice-cube-snitches-get-stitches-gif-7391040

[grim jay]

She just needs to accept your priorities

[rotund oak]

idk man,these youngsters and their slang

[grim jay]

That way you can keep her

[grim jay]

Fr

[grim jay]

Wie talkst du eigentlich

Was das für ne lingu

[rotund oak]

good now i need a translator

[normal mist]

I'll try to convince her

[rotund oak]

hold on

[ashen oriole]

11 sind zwei Einsen

oder?

[golden spoke]

Hi, guys want to ask you about energy regen after pre patch changes. Do you also fells like there is no energy regen once you go out of your opener?

I needed good few seconds to even try and press mutilate

[spice surge]

That was the case before prepatch too

And is how the spec is intended to play

[normal mist]

Eleem for president

[quiet oar]

Im sorry, you meant Eelmo right?

[golden spoke]

If that so i need to educate myself more

[spice surge]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[robust zealot]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[golden spoke]

Thank you, one thing that i will add of topic currently it feels like outside opener it is almost impossible for me to chain envenoms, maybe i need to adapt to this. Thank you 🙂

[grim jay]

Chaining is kinda impossible without dropping sometimes and if you dont actually chain but rather spam

[shell kraken]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[shell kraken]

Is it possible to equip 2x dreamcarver and get 2 buffs?

[strange python]

Unique

So no

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/gorila-ass-culo-de-gorilla-monkey-rascar-culo-gif-15809484

[normal mist]

Oxi woke up

Scatter!

[gusty mirage]

brother

I've been awake

what

[faint vessel]

so are we excited

[gusty mirage]

I've been awake for 4 hours

wtf

[normal mist]

Oxi HAS BEEN AWAKE

SCATTER HARDER

[gusty mirage]

I'll show you harder

[normal mist]

Is that a ... Promise?

I'm getting mixed feelings

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/gorila-ligón-gif-15180072019903262289

[normal mist]

That gif is so good xD

[gusty mirage]

gorilla gifs go hard

https://tenor.com/view/who-me-huh-what-wait-gif-25560426

[limber lion]

Oxi woke up... before me?

[rain mortar]

SBS does very little damage in keys but MAN but it feel like a nie QOL buff in aoe openers

[limber lion]

Man is like 10h behind in timezones and wakes up before me

Is my sleep schedule so cooked

[quiet oar]

No but his

[stuck knoll]

@gusty mirage you’re handsome

[gusty mirage]

I have to drive an hour to work

and I start at 8am

so yeah kinda have to get up giga early

[spice hawk]

I do the same. Hour and 15 commute, work day starts at 7:30CST

[gusty mirage]

dude it sucks so much balls

this commute is the worst thing ever

[spice hawk]

Honestly? I don't hate it. I never get that "pre-work" anxiety

nor do I ever bring work home

[gusty mirage]

I think it's extra shit because Michigan drivers are AWFUL

[spice hawk]

My commute is easy though. 10 minutes to get to interstate. 10 minutes to get from interstate to shop. hour long interstate drive between the two. So it's relaxing.

lol I see your Michigan drivers and raise you...Louisiana 😛

[gusty mirage]

ah mine is a major highway, can't use the interstate because it takes the same amount of time and adds ~12 miles to my commute

(6 miles each way)

because the major interstate that brings me near work is legit 6-7 miles east of me

[clever sapphire]

exactly, you take spike for the qol not for the dmg

[gusty mirage]

vs the major highway that's 1 mile east of me

[spice hawk]

Yeah like. I've got about 20 minutes worth of red lights and whatnot between the beginning and end of my drive, but that one hour? Open highway cruising at like 75-80

[gusty mirage]

and it's not usually that bad, but they decided to take 4 years to not finish the construction on it

so random parts are just down to 2 lanes

🫠

[spice hawk]

ugh

that shit's the worst

[gusty mirage]

my fav was when they busted up 2 of the lanes in fucking November

as if they'd be able to do anything when its snowing

so it just sat 2 lanes for an extra 4 months

[quiet oar]

If my commute is more than 20 minutes (one way) it aint worth it

(except the pay is really good)

[gusty mirage]

I like not being homeless

pretty good motivation

[quiet oar]

Is this the freedom land

everyone talks about

[gusty mirage]

driving an hour each way vs sucking dick for mcdouble

pretty easy choice tbh

[quiet oar]

Maybe its just the luxury working for Public Administration and living in a cheap town

[gusty mirage]

yes I'm free to fight the urges of driving into oncoming traffic each day

🦅

the worst days I have to remind myself that the other people have families to go home to and that's not very fair of me

[spice hawk]

the pay is very good, and they pay for my drive. Fuel is paid for. Car allowance pays for maintenance.

[quiet oar]

Ok

They pay

for the time

you drive

[spice hawk]

I'm salary, but yeah

[gusty mirage]

I do not get reimbursed for the drive, the mileage, or the mental anguish

but they pay my insurance premium so that's kinda neat

[quiet oar]

Ofc you dont mind it then

lol

[spice hawk]

Even if they don't pay you mileage, you should definitely track your mileage for tax reasons

[quiet oar]

If i get paid for driving to my workplaces

i wouldnt mind it neither

[spice hawk]

You can write it off

[gusty mirage]

ye its an easy calc, 26 x 2 x 5 x 4

[scenic nacelle]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[gusty mirage]

[spice hawk]

For sure. You can go an extra step further though. Track your mileage. Keep oil change reciepts. All that

It's a pretty big tax break, all things considered

[quiet oar]

Well

i dont do taxes

[gusty mirage]

I keep all my gas fill up receipts and such

OKAY EUROPEAN MAN

KEEP MAKING US FEEL BAD

[spice hawk]

I don't feel bad

[quiet oar]

Well

[spice hawk]

They're in Europe ffs

[gusty mirage]

they can walk places

🥲

[spice hawk]

I mean, it ain't Canada

but still

[quiet oar]

YOU PEOPLE KEEP SAYIN FREEDOM LAND IS THE BEST OK!?

[gusty mirage]

who's you people?

[spice hawk]

that's because it IS the best

https://tenor.com/view/america-hurricane-happy4th-of-july-america-flag-independence-day-gif-21259025

[gusty mirage]

Dog I learned America wasn't the best 20 years ago lmao

[quiet oar]

You as in you americans

[haughty flicker]

i wish i could be ignorant enough to actually say that anymore

it would feel nice

[gusty mirage]

it would

https://tenor.com/view/i-hate-it-here-i-want-to-go-home-jaden-smith-crying-cry-baby-gif-10181546

me rn

[spice hawk]

your home is America, boi

https://tenor.com/view/freedoms-internally-freedom-freedoms-eagle-america-gif-23711012

[gusty mirage]

the land of rapid aging because life is running 1000 mph and stress is neverending

[spice hawk]

Ah, mental things. That's fair.

[quiet oar]

Mental Health? Sounds not freedom to me

[spice hawk]

My wife is type 2 bi-polar with severe social anxiety, so I'd say it's real.

Meanwhile I'm out here rawdogging life lmfao

[hexed willow]

And I’m Kevin.

[spice hawk]

Hi Kevin! I'm Matt

Do you ever get tired of Tim backhanding you across the room?

[quiet oar]

This cant be true

Because im Kevin

[grim jay]

I start at 8 and wake up at 7

[rotund oak]

Kevin is ur real name?

how is that german

[spice hawk]

lol my work day starts at 7:30 and I'm up by 5:30 XD

[steel ridge]

"nur ossis und drogenkinder heißen kevin"

was it mittermeier?

i think

[limber lion]

My work starts at 10 and I'm up at 9:15

But my commute is a 5minute walk

[quiet oar]

It is

and i know this sounds very odd

[grim jay]

Hell nah. Im literally only waking up just on time to shower, pack my things and drive to work

[slim hamlet]

Good old "check pins" added start of expac

[spice hawk]

I mean. Same, except my shower is the night before. My commute eats 1hr10ish

[quiet oar]

But parents can name their children with foreign names

[limber lion]

🫡

[grim jay]

Id never work anywhere further away than 30min

[limber lion]

It has worked very well

People keep using !restealth and !pooling

[rotund oak]

im 6klm away from work,its like idk a 5min drive,i wake up at 4:45 to run for an hour,leaving for work 6:15,i start at 6:30

[spice hawk]

ya we just had this chat a little further up, but it pays very well (including paying for the commute)

[grim jay]

I work out after work

Id die before work

Ngl

[stuck knoll]

I respect anyone who works out beforehand

I would actually die

[rotund oak]

i dont think i could do that after work coz my work is heavy.I actually lift stuff on a warehouse so i have to be fit to do it

[limber lion]

I'm the complete opposite of a morning person, I literally cannot function in the morning

Let alone work out

[rotund oak]

its a matter of getting used mostly

[grim jay]

Would have to pay me atleast another 1k+ Euro to drive 2x as long

[pure moth]

I start getting ready for work after I should already be there. Gets worse day to day lol

[grim jay]

meanwhile sitting in the office for 9 hours

[normal mist]

[quiet oar]

Im waking up

and 15 minutes later im in the car

and 15 minutes later im in the office

[pure moth]

I should have been at work 30 mins ago

[quiet oar]

Unlucky

[normal mist]

I wake up at 07:45 to be at work by 08:00

[grim jay]

I had that Phase aswell way back

[normal mist]

I leave the house at 07:51/52

[quiet oar]

Based

[pure moth]

It's been 8 years of a phase

[quiet oar]

When i have homeoffice

[rotund oak]

idk if i would trade my work for office work,im not rly that kinda of guy even after spending some years on a university.Not my thing to sit all day for sure

i wanna do stuff

[quiet oar]

I wake up and clock is ticking

[rotund oak]

clock is ticking even if u are asleep

#plottwist

[normal mist]

That was deep

[rotund oak]

but jokes aside,dont let time anxiety eat on u

jsut forget it,do ur stuff with program

[grim jay]

Im an industry and commerce guy

Wouldnt want to do anything else

[arctic venture]

@guides

!guides

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[rotund oak]

10/10

[arctic venture]

I dont remember the link for that site who shows the most used gears for m+ and raid.

Somebodie have it?

[grim jay]

@rotund oak tho I've had mechanical engineering and programming for machines in school and its a part of what my company does

[velvet pier]

https://murlok.io/

[grim jay]

So its a bit technical aswell

[rotund oak]

subcreation

[rotund oak]

wicked

i wanna work on my field it just doesnt provide enough money here man

[grim jay]

What is it?

[rotund oak]

geophysics

[arctic venture]

thanks.

[rotund oak]

seismic scouting

[grim jay]

Ah ye I remember

[arctic venture]

thx

[rotund oak]

u r welcome friend

[grim jay]

Idk if you can do that just fine in germany tbf

[rotund oak]

Best case is Norway for me,im gathering money and waiting for a contract,ill migrate 1st chance given

Chicks are hot there,so both work+women

cant go wrong

[grim jay]

Wait

Didnt you have a wife

Or girlfriend

[rotund oak]

not rly

[modest glen]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[rotund oak]

we were engaged

not anymore

[quiet oar]

Well i said i wake up and clock is ticking, i stand up and turn the pc on 30 minutes after

[grim jay]

Sorry to hear probably? Depending. But life goes on and you will get better

[ebon quest]

do we still DM - Shiv - KB - and then shiv again when it's expiring to keep the shiv buff up throughout the duration of kb?

[normal mist]

And are you alright brother?

[grim jay]

Royal going straight for the after

[quiet oar]

Im sorry to hear that We love you regardless

[grim jay]

[rotund oak]

im good its fine,dw,mature ppl,mature choices

[normal mist]

Proud of you homie

[grim jay]

You can only grow no matter what life throws at you

[normal mist]

Yes, but tea is used differently

[rotund oak]

yup,learn,thats life

[ebon quest]

tea used when you shiv now right? not at the last 6 seconds?

first shiv i mean

[grim jay]

We can find a fine orc lady for you if you want to brother

[quiet oar]

Ye some use it with milk and sugar, some only use sugar

[grim jay]

Only if you dont overcap energy

[ebon quest]

okay, thank you. just wanted to make sure i was understanding the new rotation properly

[rotund oak]

aiming to keep my money for now,ill pass thx 😂

[spice spire]

Ik the feeling king. I’m so sorry to hear that and it’s often you hear but it happens for a reason. Love you big dog

[quiet oar]

I love you quake

[grim jay]

We can find one that brings money home instead

[narrow basalt]

Let’s go gambling

[rotund oak]

im down for that,hook me up!

[quiet oar]

A mommy?

[grim jay]

Yeah sap is a big guy aswell

So a muscle mommy

[rotund oak]

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/the-judgment-day-rhea-ripley-no-one-nobody-is-ready-for-mami-just-a-reminder-gif-9212830373647241088

[normal mist]

He needs a little devil

[quiet oar]

(her actual gimmick is being a Mami)

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/muscle-girl-gif-22539073

(count me in)

[rotund oak]

definitely benches more than @bleak sky

[narrow basalt]

Rhea Ripley

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-26414884

[bleak sky]

do not ping me in this cursed channel

yall horny as fuck

[normal mist]

#assassination , where you go from talking about the spec, to gorilla gifs, to helping people understand the rotation, to mommy gifs, to bromances, to pinging minalba out of his natural habitat

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/uwu-cat-piano-music-tiles-tapping-gif-16391139

[rotund oak]

was trying to bait the man for so long

perfect moment type of thang

[quiet oar]

You are not in Outlaw channel

[bleak sky]

in outlaw they are brainlets, in here everyone is horny

[grim jay]

We are just spreading love

No being horny involved

[quiet oar]

I mean thats why its off topic 2.0

[grim jay]

I even have my ambient lighting on red to celebrate our wholesomeness

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[quiet oar]

Ye

Very sussy

[grim jay]

(had to switch it because a girl friend didnt like blue)

[arctic venture]

Waiting 1 month to have some to do in the game.

[quiet oar]

Babe can make Turn the Light Red? Ofc but why???

[arctic venture]

that´s painfull.

[quiet oar]

(He doesnt get the hint)

[haughty flicker]

i mean the prepatch event is in a week

[grim jay]

Theres something really inappropriate someone might say regarding that and blue

[arctic venture]

Doesnt chance that much.

[grim jay]

I mean you can do what you did before

[haughty flicker]

its not supposed to

[grim jay]

Or try out specs

[haughty flicker]

this is like literally every other prepatch

[long island]

how often does assasination rogue hop in and out of stealth?

[arctic venture]

Not really, I´m over 3k m+, had 6 mythic kills on raids. At moment doesnt worth push it harder.

[grim jay]

As often as we drop combat + every 2 min

[grim jay]

If its worth is a different matter

But if you can have fun it is worth

If you cant, id just do smth different

[arctic venture]

I´ve been playing classic for a while.

now I´m back.

heheh.

[grim jay]

Eww

[spice lagoon]

hehe

[grim jay]

If you can have fun playing classic, im sure you can have fun playing prepatch

[spice lagoon]

how long are servers down

[quiet oar]

Based

[arctic venture]

Classic is that thing, You get start it "Well that was cool" after 2 hours playing you thinking "Damn i´ve done it over and over again why i´m doing it?"

lol

[quiet oar]

Well in classic you can play combat

Which is the Best spec ever acxording to the people in the reddit comments sections

[arctic venture]

combat was really cool indeed.

[grim jay]

For me its "that was pretty cool" and like 15 mins later "Yeah, that WAS pretty cool.. Back then"

[arctic venture]

specialy in cataclysm

[grim jay]

[arctic venture]

with the legendary daggers

[arctic venture]

yeah same for me.

[spice lagoon]

thought about just going back too classic and saying f retail

[grim jay]

Maybe you should suggest that they play classic in the outlaw channel. They still have acro there right?

[quiet oar]

Acro got introduced with Outlaw in Legion

[grim jay]

I was just kidding

[arctic venture]

@spice lagoon nah retail still much better, back in the time we all complaining about wow be better, have more this and that, now we have it and going to back to classic? what´s the point?

[grim jay]

Because they always say "its been a thing since forever"

[arctic venture]

hehe.

[haughty flicker]

i mean

legion was a long ass time ago

[quiet oar]

Well classic is literally raid logging

[haughty flicker]

for a lot of people it has been there forever

[quiet oar]

Once you got some gear

[grim jay]

Did you just call us legion guys old

[haughty flicker]

ancient

[arctic venture]

the great great thing about the classic back in the day, its always was about how cool was to leveling. that´s iT!

[haughty flicker]

dont worry i started late cata so im even older

[arctic venture]

I´m started in Burning Crusade.

[grim jay]

I dabbled around since lich king but really started in mop

[arctic venture]

Lich king era was really cool indeed, specialy for warriors.

seeking the legendary weapon.