assassination

[shadow badger]

I played shamen in S1, and spiritwalkers probably did it.

[quiet oar]

Spiritwalker works for non shaman spells

[shadow badger]

Yeah it just lets you cast while moving

[grim jay]

Imagine if it worked with dathea trinket

[shadow badger]

Doesn’t say shaman spells lol

[shadow badger]

That one specifically says roots you to the ground lol

[grim jay]

Ye ik

[shadow badger]

Just googled to verify. When they mini reworked enhance in season 2 they changed it to shaman spells only.

I stopped playing it by then though

That sucks for them lmao

[rotund oak]

meanwhile on mage discord

[royal lantern]

fire mages when fire is MAYBE not the 200% best choice in all content and all Situations everywhere (its a warcrime against them)

[rotund oak]

idk man,the level of arrogance in that discord

breathtaking

god complex

smh

[royal lantern]

spoiled child syndrome

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-16704157274113773062

[grim jay]

A Joexi meme

[rotund oak]

yeah totally a dementia moment

[gusty mirage]

I need to find this person and have them explain to me what role frost plays if it isn’t dps

I have so many questions

[royal lantern]

inc: "PvP spec"

cus there are people that still say stuff like that

[worldly sail]

slowing mobs in m+ hope that cleared it up!

[light knoll]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-ok-coolstorybro-gif-20977126

[normal mist]

Like sub

[primal jolt]

hi gamers

[royal lantern]

yo

[normal mist]

Hello pino

[rotund oak]

spamming sheeps and rofs and novas ofc

dmg is irrelevant,frost just ccs

[hearty reef]

Frost slows trash on sanguine

Their entire job

[sick sail]

The dude behind rogue hero re work ^

[rotund oak]

definetly too much cuccumber on that tzatziki

[sick sail]

Been farming transmogs for rogues and monks. Looking good boys. Let’s hope we can perform as good

Maining rogue for sure unless they get worse for any reason

[runic hinge]

Kid is drinking a dells+gansett. Good choice

[gusty mirage]

brother

I think you might have a problem

[normal mist]

Maybe WE are the problem

[runic hinge]

I lived in Rhode Island for a few years. I’d recognize that can anywhere. But yeah maybe knowing what it was off a 2 second gif where you can only see 10% is maybe

Uhh a problem

[proven jasper]

I live in mass, i see that can everyday i immediately recognized it as well

[runic hinge]

Yum

[rotund oak]

nice!

[shadow rock]

Anyone on that can help me min max my stat priority with current raid gear(non heroic)? I'm struggling between picking 26 exp cap vs flat haste/mastery

[balmy condor]

!simguide

[prisma monolith]

Guide to Simming yourself: https://www.wowhead.com/how-to-use-raidbots-sims-stat-weights

For more accurate results you should always sim yourself using Top Gear for gear you already have in your bags
or Droptimizer to see which content drops the biggest upgrade for you. Do not use Stat Weights sims to evaluate gear.

[balmy condor]

This is the solution

If you don’t want to sim, ilvl > everything

[keen spruce]

exp cap?

[normal mist]

expertise?

cataclysm

[keen spruce]

is this a classic question

[normal mist]

._.

[keen spruce]

#classic-discussion @shadow rock

[shadow rock]

Apologies folks, new here. I appreciate you all 🙂

[normal mist]

Altough keep in mind that, even if there is a classic channel, this discord is not focused at all in classic servers. Check the pins on #classic-discussion , there are link invites to other discords more focused on those types of the game

[balmy condor]

Oh

I thought it was some weird French thing

Cause non-heroic

[normal mist]

Germans use those terms too i learned

And Expansions = addons

[balmy condor]

Yeah but they also speak English

[normal mist]

that still fries my brain

[normal mist]

Sometimes they do

[spice surge]

Twinks instead of alts

[normal mist]

yeah that as well... Twink for me is a Low level character in a level bracket with OP items

[spice spire]

@balmy condor is literally right here

[spice surge]

He is both no?

[spice spire]

(For legal reasons this is a joke)

Yes

[limber lion]

Am I a twink even if I'm not gay?

[grim jay]

I always need to correct that

most of the time im writing twink but realize it before I hit enter

[thorn fjord]

wtf did i come in to

[spice surge]

Afaik its only based on appearance, so ye. (i could be wrong though)

[limber lion]

Epic

[balmy condor]

we can fix that

[grim jay]

[limber lion]

What do you have in mind, Mr. M?

[balmy condor]

maybe a bit of hand holding

[shy pecan]

[thorn fjord]

[royal lantern]

get a room

smh my head

[spice spire]

Before marriage?

[rapid oar]

is it normal that I keep getting knocked out of stealth randomly during m+ inbetween pulls?

[spice surge]

If you are using the sark cloak ye

[balmy condor]

!stealthbreak

[prisma monolith]

Stealth can break from:

• Evoker legendary buff expiring and bouncing back to the Evoker.
• Ominous Chromatic Essence trinket on buff gain
• Voice of the Silent Star when wearing it yourself
• Misterweaver soothing mist when talented into Unison
• Blossom of Amirdrassil (trinket) initial hot dropping/spreading
• Vicious brand (Signet trinket self damage)

[spice surge]

[balmy condor]

where cloak on that

oh

nvm

skipped

[rapid oar]

Oh yeah I have the cloak

this seems like an oversight no?

[balmy condor]

maybe

probably

it's a pretty minor thing

[rapid oar]

If you say so

[balmy condor]

worst case scenario if it super bothers, just wear a different cape ya know

[rapid oar]

You got some snark to you eh

[sharp viper]

whispyr being snarky? that's unheard of!

[balmy condor]

It’s not even snark

[spice spire]

Didn’t read as snark

[balmy condor]

I’m just giving an alternative solution

Fuck me I guess lmao

[spice spire]

Thing is (snarky answer) if it’s just now noticed this far into garbage time (11 days before prepatch innit) it isn’t that big of a deal

[normal mist]

No, don't give proper explanations

Fuck whispyr

Respectfully

[spice spire]

Would

[normal mist]

same

[spice spire]

But also bit aggressive to come into it.
Cloaks been this way it’s entire life cycle. If it’s just now noticed by the user, it really doesn’t matter. No shot they fix something this far in

[normal mist]

You're right, cloak been this way since S2 and most of us opted to not use it at all in m+, especially high end because you also lose Stamina.

Probably new players have no idea i guess

[gilded oasis]

Snark this

[spice spire]

Shark 🙂

[gilded oasis]

Auto correct + tipsy + L + bald

[spice spire]

God damn

Don’t have to do me like that

[gilded oasis]

I was doing me

Self doing

[spice spire]

W + have a great time + ur a lightweight + Willow is great and I miss her

[gilded oasis]

This our 4th brewery

This one is pour your own lol it's cool

We're watching Aussie footy

Wait I found a secret room

[strange python]

That’s right, fuck you buddy

[rapid oar]

yeah

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

Sorry for trying to help

[strange python]

That yeah is wild

Tell him bud‘

[pliant remnant]

I cannot believe Whispyr would do this

[gilded oasis]

How dare you

[rapid oar]

To me it read like f you this has been asked many times before be quiet but hey I havent had sex in a while maybe Im just on edge

[pliant remnant]

[gilded oasis]

Crazy the tone people put on words. Problem with texts. Back in my day 👵 blah blah blah

[strange python]

He just told you it breaks stealth and that it’s not a big deal

And if you find it’s a big deal

You wear another cloak

How’s that snark

[gilded oasis]

I personally don't wear any cloaks, weighs me down

[rapid oar]

Daaaaaamn

Alright respect

[normal mist]

Lets all chillout and share our transmogs

[gilded oasis]

I can't

[strange python]

Buddy you don’t want me to pull my transmogs out

[gilded oasis]

Wait does armory show tmog

[strange python]

You might send me to jail

[normal mist]

If i see any tmog wearing 4 or more pieces of the same set, i'll shame it with

(me, wearing a full set as well)

[royal lantern]

its a full set

now hit me

on the mouth

with your mouth

[normal mist]

Depending on WHICH set, i'll either think you're awesome, or awesome.

YOU DECIDE

I mean mouth to mouth is also an option

[royal lantern]

Nathria mythic, no shoulders/head

[gusty mirage]

the issue is tied to subterfuge

it didn't break stealth for me prior to the rework

[gilded oasis]

I have the murloc set on, not my normal tmog damn

[gusty mirage]

honestly kinda based

[normal mist]

Fair, a good choice, a shame the boots look so weird

[gilded oasis]

Mrrrglglggl

[normal mist]

Cute enough

[royal lantern]

its a worgen, what boots

[normal mist]

You win.

[gusty mirage]

Tier 3 with the wardens tabard

[normal mist]

I've heard the klaxxi tabard fits it better. I'm done remix and im just waiting for the characters to transfer over so i can get all pandaria tabards and try them out.

[gilded oasis]

sounds like old fart tmog

[quiet oar]

Challenge Mode Set with a Black eye Patch

With hellscreams razor with Berserker ( the blood dripping one)

[late kestrel]

been wanting to get into sin, any tips for maxing kingsbane? I've been practicing on dummies but I'm pretty inconsistent on when I can hit mils - I feel like I miss timings on like 60% of them

[gilded oasis]

I wear my barbarian garb in pvp as a distraction it work

[gilded oasis]

Most important is keeping the envenom buff up during it and shiv, if you don't have 2 shiv charges then have shiv cover the end. The rest is all pumping envenoms and prayge

There's a nice WA that reminds you when yo shiv and Vanish and what your envenom uptime is

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[gilded oasis]

In LE or Notter has one if you search google

Search on wago not google

[late kestrel]

thank you so much! definitely going to look at a WA especially while I'm learning it

[gilded oasis]

I'm drunk sorry

Yeah the WAs are helpful for reminding and timers

Also make sure you dance then KB as KB dot gets snapshotted

[normal mist]

Since it's a set i respect, you have my blessing tira

[gilded oasis]

Wish I logged out in my normal set I can't remember what it was. My second most used set is the blue one from AQ 40 (I think)

[normal mist]

thats like tier 1.5 iirc

[gilded oasis]

Something like that

[runic hinge]

Drunk zar being so helpful

[gilded oasis]

I'm a better rogue when I'm drunk I promised

Also promise

[balmy condor]

drunkspyr and drunkzar

[gilded oasis]

Pour your own beers

📞

[gilded oasis]

Hey I'm gonna need you to drive to my house and check on my cats. There's fudge in the fridge it's all yours

[balmy condor]

[coral stump]

im convinced to main assa off of this convo alone

[balmy condor]

welcome to Assa

alcoholics
ssssssss
ssssssss
anonymous

[coral stump]

alcholics sneaking stealthily anonymous

[gilded oasis]

Wtf I only drink on vacation

Altho I'm in Seattle I've seen at least 20 people smoking crack so I could try that

[coral stump]

is that equivilant to a PI?

[gilded oasis]

I think so

Tho judging by their looks it's opposite a PI

[coral stump]

yo wtf i love u

reverse PI is smth i need to give the pugs who dont soak on nymue

[shy pecan]

What are you doing here?

[balmy condor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/871188656357015623/1230735406186631260/succ.gif

[coral stump]

hide in ur house dont let him catch u w the crack pipe

[gilded oasis]

Going on a cruise tomorrow

[runic hinge]

I have only had two ciders today. I am a perfectly capable causal drinker and I can be trusted with alcohol

[gilded oasis]

Yes definitely

[gilded oasis]

Well I recommend just the tap it was very nice

[shy pecan]

Seattle is a fishing village, yeah

[balmy condor]

how bout you fish yourself some bitches edNERD

[gusty mirage]

tf

[shy pecan]

What if I already am?

[shy pecan]

Is that the one next to Ume Sake House?

[gilded oasis]

Uhhhhh

All I know is it was across from some black cat something and on blanchard

Look they have swings and black lights and pour your own beer and pizza slices you have to go

[shy pecan]

Yeah, I think they’re nearby there

[gilded oasis]

Check out Just The Tap!
https://yelp.to/5SZujIk9UP

Have a yelp

[shy pecan]

Yeah, just looked them up 😛

[gilded oasis]

Tis helps with spa

Dps

All rogues must visit for 5% buff

[shy pecan]

lol

[gilded oasis]

Now we're getting dinnah

[shy pecan]

Trying to remember what else is out inthere that part of town

Did you not get the pizza there? 😮

[gilded oasis]

My bf got 2 alices

But last time we were in town we went to this place so we wanted to go back for dinner

[shy pecan]

Damn, picking up bitches around you

[gilded oasis]

https://yelp.to/HWewISBw6a

[shy pecan]

There’s a place with some chicken and waffle that you might be able to check out for breakfast tomorrow that’s on the waterfront

[languid dune]

Anyone else got this issue simulating s4 tier?
https://gyazo.com/adce23dba2ec71a9e4b85da22c954ed6

[shy pecan]

https://yelp.to/n-2Q2zJrMH

[gilded oasis]

Oh nice I'll look it up

[balmy condor]

not quite sure what the issue is

[languid dune]

cant see any set bonuses on the new and i sim like 250k with 4set on and 287k with the old s3 tier

[balmy condor]

can you send your /simc

[languid dune]

sec

[balmy condor]

or a link to a sim you ran

either works

preferably actually the second

with the 250

[languid dune]

was 262k apperently but still super low
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uxt6sLo37z32SizoU7tznS

[shy pecan]

I think you’re next to a pinball bar if that’s your cup of tea

[gilded oasis]

I think knew may have looked that up actually

[balmy condor]

seems okay

it's triggering properly at least

[shy pecan]

Yeah, called Shorty’s, you’re like next to it

Fun place to grab a drink and play pinball

[languid dune]

wierd, feels like it sims without the tier bonuses tho

[balmy condor]

definitely is simming the tier

[languid dune]

yeah i saw it too but feels kinda low 😄

[balmy condor]

does it?

you're 504

simming single target with caustic

no embellishments

idk

it's kinda adding up

[languid dune]

Oh shiet, didnt even realize that i had caustic untill you said it. Shame on me haha

Yeah, just started gearing it today

missing tons of stuff

[balmy condor]

full bis is like 370ish

and that's over 20 ilvl above you

[unkempt herald]

yo bois

Why is it that a lot of times my envenom misses on mobs/boss because of immunity ?

[balmy condor]

like when

does this happen with a specific mechanic or what

[balmy condor]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ajj5hcFkceAnBFU1SpVWVu

for reference, just scaling your character up

to the same ilvl as bis

gets you within 10% with no other changes

so it's looking fine

[unkempt herald]

it happens a lot

[languid dune]

Alright 🙂

[gilded oasis]

You're looking fine

[languid dune]

ty for helping this slowpoke understand hehe 🙂 @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

yeh but a lot in a row, a lot as in like once every fight, once every raid?

is it getting parried

[unkempt herald]

ill try to record next time it happens

[blissful cosmos]

as night elf when you use shadow meld does it give you [Indiscriminate Carnage]

[marble hemlock]

no, only if you actually restealth

[blissful cosmos]

imagine if it did

that would be so op

[marble hemlock]

not really

[blissful cosmos]

i thought it did for a sec while i was watching somebody stream but i saw wrong then

[marble hemlock]

well if you use it in a dungeon, you can manually restealth

after using shadowmeld

and then you get IC

[blissful cosmos]

ohhhhh

[marble hemlock]

but it wont work mid bossfight

[blissful cosmos]

oh bro im tlaking about keys and shit

[marble hemlock]

keys also have bosses

[blissful cosmos]

so night elf is the goat

[marble hemlock]

its nice to have, but not because of IC. its nice because you can shadowmeld boss mechanics, first and foremost

restealths arent nearly as important as people think it is

[blissful cosmos]

no bro its nice cause of ic too

that does alot of damage on aoe packs bro

[marble hemlock]

also, im not your bro

[gilded oasis]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• You can add in some sanguine/rupture value from carnage, but chaining allows for higher uptime and smoother energy overall, eliminating a lot of ramp at the start of a pull
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths (chain heavy spiteful weeks are only about -30% on stealths)
• You still have vanish and shadow dance, which gives you MANY options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[blissful cosmos]

oh bro restealths are mega imortant as assa rogue in keys

[marble hemlock]

theres 5 explanations above on why they are not, other than you "thinking" they are, when the math does not back that up.

[blissful cosmos]

i wouldnt want to hear it

[slate crown]

They’re nice to have. They’re not mega important

[blissful cosmos]

cause i know its highly important

[gilded oasis]

Can I be your bro

[marble hemlock]

ofc, i know you.

[marble hemlock]

well, its not, and we dont take kindly to people spreading misinformation and stating things as fact when they are, in fact, not fact.

[blissful cosmos]

bro you most not doing keys or something

resetalthing in keys and getting Indiscriminate Carnage as much as you can every pull is very huge my bro

[spice spire]

Can u be my bro

[blissful cosmos]

bro jus tknow that

goodbye my bro

[spice spire]

Appreciate the “trust me bro”

But data doesn’t support it

[blissful cosmos]

fuck your data

[slate crown]

“Yeah I ain’t reading all that”

[marble hemlock]

gonna kindly ask you to cut it out at this point. if youre interested in having a constructive conversation, this is the right place to have it. if you want to troll, then this aint the place. bro.

[blissful cosmos]

im done

[spice spire]

Ur so real for that homie damn

[spice spire]

Tell ‘em what it is coach

[marble hemlock]

dont tell me what to do, youre not my real mom

[spice spire]

Yet you call me papi

Curious

[marble hemlock]

can you provide evidence?

[spice spire]

Hold

One second

[marble hemlock]

https://i.imgur.com/wpcsBfi.jpeg

[slate crown]

That’s just in the server not all of your dms

[marble hemlock]

nothing there either im afraid

[grave osprey]

Huh… weird i didnt pop up

[spice spire]

Sink check

[marble hemlock]

same result

[slate crown]

Wait what the fuck where is my bathroom sink

What the fuck did you do

[spice spire]

I don’t do that word king

[earnest remnant]

that says daddy

not papi

fraud

[spice spire]

I don’t do that word stealthi

You don’t know the lore

[earnest remnant]

still think mine is better

that one was gold

[spice spire]

Wait

Actually you do know that lore

We went over this before

Fuck

You’re old bud

[spice spire]

Iykyk

[earnest remnant]

im not "that" old

[gilded oasis]

We're bros for life

[marble hemlock]

that was in response to shien posting a meme, not you

stop trying to gaslight an entire server

[earnest remnant]

i joined RH in 2019 it seems

[spice spire]

I’m girlbossing tf outta you

[spice spire]

Hell yeah big dog

[spice spire]

Year before me damn

[marble hemlock]

dont feel particularly bossed right now

[gilded oasis]

Need more black light swings in your life

[spice spire]

That doesn’t sound particularly pleasant

[gilded oasis]

No it is

Did you not see the pic earlier

It was good

[marble hemlock]

quake just hating on me

because i called him out on his uwu-ness and his horniness

and he doesnt like accepting himself for who and what he is

[gilded oasis]

Drank his Haterade

Gulp gulp

[marble hemlock]

he does know how to gulp

all kinds of liquids

[earnest remnant]

he probably also has a bunch of Twice posters up behind his desk

he just hiding it

[marble hemlock]

right behind his bigass cabinet with all the anime figurines he collected in his years of repressed UwUness

[earnest remnant]

ong

[spice spire]

Bro

What the fuck did I just read

[marble hemlock]

the consequences of your own actions, is what

[spice spire]

Dog

I’m neither a weeb nor a koreeb

[marble hemlock]

which means you are, since you clearly have identification issues, seeing how you called me dog
https://i.imgur.com/K5G95tC.jpeg

obviously we gotta take the opposite of everything you say

[unkempt herald]

yo ghost

are garrote and rupture your abilities that does the most dmg overall in keys?

[shy pecan]

Garrote usually yeah. Rupture… think sub has it higher than sin

[spice spire]

Just like u I don’t have pfps up get woke buddy

[unkempt herald]

I'm definetely playing it wrong

[marble hemlock]

thats your defense? you know for a fact that ive had my cat as my pfp for like 5+ years now, so clearly you knew who you were talking to when you called me "dog"

[spice spire]

Yeah I was talking to my big dog

[unkempt herald]

On pack of 5 mobs, I usually with slice of dice up, I open with garrote, garrote, rupture, fan of knives to combo+4 rupture again, then fok crimson temp

[marble hemlock]

im your big dog?

[spice spire]

Guess ur just a hater damn

Ye

[normal mist]

Guys it's late go to sleep

[spice spire]

Dog it’s 10:30

And seli doesn’t sleep

[normal mist]

Fuck me

[blazing jewel]

[marble hemlock]

its 5:25am actually

[normal mist]

4 am here

[marble hemlock]

another case of quake having vision troubles

clearly him saying hes not a weeb is not to be taken seriously

[shy pecan]

No thanks

[normal mist]

[spice spire]

Seli I’ll pay you a buck fifty to fuck off

[marble hemlock]

calling you a weeb is priceless tho

[spice spire]

I hate ur ass I s2g

[marble hemlock]

https://i.imgur.com/SdWJwUp.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/9jpWdto.jpeg

exhibit A and B

[marble hemlock]

i love you tho

youre a good lad

and i wish you nothing but happiness and good health

[shy pecan]

Quake isn’t a weeb?

[spice spire]

I am not

[shy pecan]

[spice spire]

That could be any grungler

[shy pecan]

I thought you were a weeb like all the other sin regulars

[spice spire]

Occasional anime enjoyer

[marble hemlock]

https://i.imgur.com/JS8uPA4.jpeg

[spice spire]

I will never own a weeb thing

[spice spire]

Inconclusive

[marble hemlock]

idk buddy, looks like you, smells like you, tastes like you. i think its you.

[spice spire]

Frankly

Tastes?

Pause

[unkempt herald]

@marble hemlock so if restealth isnt important should i focus on applying bleed to every pack with 5mob+ if i cant get ic

[earnest remnant]

Koreaboo*

get it right nerd

[spice spire]

Yeah I shortened it

It’s weeabo shortened to weeb

Therefore for Korea it would be?

[earnest remnant]

if you type Koreeb just looks like you mistyped a pokemon

[marble hemlock]

when people discuss "how important are restealths", the discussion is typically about getting restealths from one pack to the next, or being able to chain a bunch of low-hp mobs who already have bleeds active. in those scenarios, chainpulling is better than egtting a restealth.

the general aoe priorities if you do not get IC, are to use garrote on cooldown, spread rupture, while maintaining CT and Envenom. you likely won't be able to do all of these at the same time

you currently also have shadowdance and vanish to help you get IC even if theres a chainpull, so make sure to make use of that as well.

you want to have at least enough ruptures+garrotes up to be able to spam abilities every global cooldown.

[spice spire]

Ain’t reading that essay

[marble hemlock]

like you have anything better to do

[spice spire]

U

[rotund oak]

disturbing

[marble hemlock]

quakes UwU arc was smth to behold

one of the greatest moments in RH history

[spice spire]

Jealousy is a disease get well soon sap xoxo

[rotund oak]

bro

[spice spire]

[marble hemlock]

[rotund oak]

man lifts like a chad,goes into a weeb rampage

contradicting stuff

[spice spire]

I can say I’ve surprised more people who’ve heard my voice here than I care to admit

[balmy condor]

bro sounds like smokey the bear after 30 years of smoking

[runic hinge]

I was surprised first time

[spice spire]

Bro what the fuck

[rotund oak]

[balmy condor]

only you can prevent wildfires looking ahh

[spice spire]

Ass master but not rogue lookin ahh

[balmy condor]

jealous

[spice spire]

I really hope that isn’t someone you don’t know

That comment was the most incredible thing I’ve seen

[balmy condor]

completely random guy

no clue

first comment

never commented again

[spice spire]

Bless

Top tier hater moment

You made it

[balmy condor]

the wowhead guide to youtube video catfishing pipeline

[spice spire]

REAL

That guy is up there with Kendrick on the hater level

[rotund oak]

[balmy condor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1227731609642471534/image.png?ex=6692f129&is=66919fa9&hm=00d9f0ddbbf67a892e454d00c163a2e6bea61c0ba9455c19f9f42c23a6886c55&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1539&height=186

incredible

(it was months ago but I dug up a screenshot)

I think the funniest part

is the

(edited)

like bro roasted me, made a typo

went in to edit it

and then still spelled my name wrong

[marble hemlock]

its like looking at the mona lisa

im just awestruck every time

[balmy condor]

ass master maybe but not the rogue kind

is such an incredible bar

[marble hemlock]

yeah

like

[balmy condor]

he really cooked with that one

[marble hemlock]

i kinda pride myself on my ability to drop some zingers but

never in a million years

would i have come up with that one

[runic hinge]

I’m not even sure what it means

[marble hemlock]

its like, every word in that comment was chosen with such care and intent

[balmy condor]

I can translate

he looked at the wowhead guide

saw my pfp there

assumed I was a "sexy gamer girl"

went to my youtube

got very upset

and then called me a "pre transition self mutilator" (I can only assume insanely transphobic)

and then proceeds to say I'm gay

by calling me an ass master

which is either the most supportive way to say that

[marble hemlock]

thats how i took it as well, ye

[balmy condor]

cause he's genuinely impressed by my ass skills

or just straight homophobic

[marble hemlock]

pure literature

[rotund oak]

he thought he would fap to a wow guide writter

found out it was a dude

went mad

[balmy condor]

yepge

[spice spire]

so real for that

[balmy condor]

he's so straight the blood from his penis vacuum sucked itself back up to his brain

and he unlocked the ability to write poetry

[shy pecan]

[rotund oak]

those are the kind of ppl we hear from at the news of a murder case on TV

fr

[runic hinge]

Ohhh okay I was confused by the “not a rogue one”

[rotund oak]

disturbed beyond doubt

[balmy condor]

ed knows what I'm talking about

you hetero you

up high

[earnest remnant]

[spice spire]

ass (not assassination rogue) master

[rotund oak]

if i randomly tag hataro do u think he's going on a roast rampage here?

or should we contain that monster in OT

[balmy condor]

nah he'd probably see "ass master but not rogue" and start licking his lips like a cat eating wet food

[rotund oak]

ok im not doing that

ill pass

[serene flicker]

Do it

Let the dark thoughts win

[balmy condor]

it's saturday morning for sap

he hasn't had his coffee yet

[rotund oak]

true and true

[runic hinge]

Yeah I got it now. Dude was too smart for me. He’s got great talent

[balmy condor]

modern Shakespeare

[shy pecan]

Please don't. He went from reformed to full horny mode again

[marble hemlock]

itd probably help if people stopped tagging him for every little shit they want to troll him with

[balmy condor]

true

[spice spire]

@shy pecan draft log in

[balmy condor]

draft?

[shy pecan]

Man...

[balmy condor]

ye I'll take 1 million beers

[spice spire]

one million beers

yeah

[balmy condor]

yeah

[marble hemlock]

well its 6:10 AM, think i should go to sleep at some point

dont do things i wouldnt do

[shy pecan]

night

[runic hinge]

That’s never enough

[shy pecan]

will miss you

[balmy condor]

does that mean I have to play legion outlaw

[marble hemlock]

theres not a whole lot of things i wouldnt do

playing outlaw in legion is one of those. i played it for like 4 pulls on xavius and then swapped to assa and never looked back

[balmy condor]

[marble hemlock]

psure i had to reroll rtb 7+ times in each of those pulls and just said "fuck this shit"

[rotund oak]

yeah

its the summer high temperatures

[shadow badger]

nick of time on the first try ez mode

[rotund oak]

💀

[shadow badger]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-emoji-rage-gif-2922587064166244739

[clever sapphire]

Im pretty sure there are people still farming it weekly since season start who dont have it

[shadow badger]

bro there is 100% people doing that and i just want them to know i decided to randomly do it with 2 weeks left before pre patch and got it first try.

[odd dew]

guys I have been away for 6 months is rogue looking good are we cooking next expac

[shadow badger]

not cooking

but cooked

[clever sapphire]

We are overcooked

[shadow badger]

https://tenor.com/view/choso-choso-jjk-choso-jujutsu-kaisen-choso-anime-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-10037971888755283102

[clever sapphire]

Burnt to crisp

[shadow badger]

its not looking good roguebros

[clever sapphire]

(Assa spec tree is fine)

If you dont look at hero trees its only a bit worse

Than live

[shadow badger]

sub is looking the best (we are cooked beyond belief)

[clever sapphire]

Sub is looking like a frankenstein, im not touching that

[shadow badger]

a frankenstein of abilities that all come together to form a abomination with 8 heads all trying to move in different directions but its the size of a building and just walks over everything.

with shadowdust still somehow

[vagrant lagoon]

anyone have nice wa for assa?

[shadow badger]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[shadow badger]

im a fan of luxthos but whispyrs wa is pretty nice too

[clever sapphire]

I use zac-s

Not showing here tho since he is mainly outlaw

[shadow badger]

@balmy condor how does the pooling practive tool work i just saw it

[balmy condor]

it puts a big ass icon on your screen to tell you kinda what to do

like if you're supposed to generate CP

it'll put a fat mut on there

and then when it's time to evenom

it'll put a fat envenom on there

it's like KIND OF a rotation helper

but in the stupidest way possible

it doesn't help you do your rotation in any way

it just goes through the motions so you can get the idea of pooling

and see it happen

[slate crown]

still better than helkili

or w/e it's spelled

[balmy condor]

he'llkillme

it's so funny when people shit on hekili

cause 99% of the time it's the addon

but the addon is also the name of the creator of the addon

so I'm always giggling a little

makes it sound like everyone is beefing with some random guy 24/7

[slate crown]

"Hekili actively ruins your damage" like the guy is standing behind you breathing in your ear whispering about how everything is meaningless and you'll never amount to anything

[balmy condor]

Hekili is in every pug raid

actively running debuffs on top of you

it is a little weird to name a whole ass addon identical to your name

I mean I get the branding or whatever

but feels a bit conceited sometimes ya know

[shadow badger]

ive seen weak aura packages with hekilli integrated in them

its the most cursed shit ever

[balmy condor]

that sounds insanely cringe

[shadow badger]

just accepting you will abide by the hekilli god

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-awkward-looking-what-side-eye-gif-15476992

[balmy condor]

people ask a lot why sim APL's don't get made with machine learning

or AI

and I think hekili is a great example

of why robots shouldn't be playing the game

[wraith cosmos]

so we cooked cause sub is busted or cooked for some other reason?

[clever sapphire]

Hero trees suck, class tree still sucks, no tuning, no changes, no love

[wraith cosmos]

deathstalker seems hella weird gameplay wise

capstone feels like it comes into play...barely if at all

[royal lantern]

deathstalker is a mess yeha

but you can take fatebound and kinda just play like you allready do

[wraith cosmos]

does fatebound still have that whole insane dump cps into slice n dice to keep combo going gimmick?

if so thats sad

[balmy condor]

no

[wraith cosmos]

thank god that was degenerate

[balmy condor]

that got fixed like a week after fatebound was announced

[wraith cosmos]

i thought fb would be a lil weird till i noticed we got sanguine strat plus deeper strat

[balmy condor]

5/6 wouldn't have been too weird

that's basically what we did all of dragonflight

the weird one is needing to be at full max with deathstalker

[wraith cosmos]

s3/s4 was 4+ is why

just thought if that part didnt change cause we dont wanna waste cp, it might end up playing slightly weird

[balmy condor]

yeh mostly a min-max QoL thing

only reason that worked out to be like 0.2% better was because of the amirdrassil tier being so crazy strong

[wraith cosmos]

fatebound is kinda funny with seal fate buffing

[sharp viper]

I will miss it

[wraith cosmos]

went to 7 cp which made it harder to waste cp, but then gave us more gen so you're still there

[royal lantern]

im not a fan of the random "here, more CP" they do latelly, ngl

like, more CP is not interesting, it just means you use your generator 1x more often

[vale marten]

hello, i came back to rogue after a long break and wanted to know do you play around deathmark like reapplying bleeds or somethign like that because its only doing like 2% of my damage at 505 ilvl and it seems way low to me

[balmy condor]

Deathmark duplicates the bleeds on cast

So applying stuff beforehand like normal, and then pressing deathmark is all you need to do

The deathmark bleed itself is incredibly weak

But the duplicated garrote/rupture/poisons, how that interacts with kingsbane and dragon tempered blades and lethal dose

That’s where the value is

So if you’re looking for a big bar on details, not going to find it

Logs combined all the duplications into one drop-down menu for deathmark

Which is kind of a more clear picture

But still doesn’t accurately show any of the interactions like kingsbane or lethal dose

So it’s a bit nebulous in general but as your understanding of the spec deepens, you’ll start to see why deathmark is insanely strong

[vale marten]

ah i see thank you very much for the explaantion, its so strange do me that on deatils its was only 1-2% od overall damage

[balmy condor]

You can quickly add them up on the fly in details

There’s gonna be a second line of damage

From your garrote/rupture/deadly/amp

It’s always the smaller of the two bars

And you can take those bars and kinda add them in your head to figure out what the damage was

And then slap on another like 4% for the nebulous stuff that you can’t math off of details

And it’s kinda ballpark-close

[unkempt herald]

are you guys rolling with crimson tempest or no ?

[limber lion]

Ye

In Mythic+ that is

The bleed build

go brr

[unkempt herald]

I'm doing lower keys rn I feel like mob dies too fast

for bleed to go brr

[limber lion]

Exactly, that is when you play bleeds

Look at what Sudden Demise does

You still have to spread bleeds as Assassination for the spec to function

It's a common misconception thinking that bleed build = slower dam

When in fact the single target splatter build is much slower

And requires a big chunky target that you can send cds to

You need like 20s each pack to do dam

And if you don't have cds on the pack, you'll do next to nothing

Bleed build is much better because you do damage on every pull and don't need 20s for setup

[unkempt herald]

so youre saying I should reapply garrote/rupture with IC on low target pack ?

[limber lion]

If it's a low key, you simply apply bleeds once in the beginning

And it'll be enough to kill the mobs

You just apply garrote, rupture and CT on everything

and watch them explode

[unkempt herald]

when i compare my abilities damage % with those on higher keys it doesnt align

most of their dps comes from envenom and caustic

mine from bleed

is that normal ?

[spice surge]

Yes

[limber lion]

If you read again what I said

You'll get it

[spice surge]

Because you cant get good caustic damage from kingsbane if your kingsbane target dies halfway through the dot

[limber lion]

Blast with bleeds until you get to high enough keys where you spend close to a minute per pack

So you get to use Kingsbane on every pack

And you get to melt one big chunky target down and it lives the entire KB duration

Until then it's not worth looking into really, just play bleeds.

Honestly unless you're doing like 15+ keys, you should just play the bleed build everywhere

[unkempt herald]

Gotchu thx a lot mate

[limber lion]

Glgl

Npnp

[hexed frost]

Nelth trinket is simming 3K more than grieftorch, should I take it or is it a simbait?

[limber lion]

link sim

If it's Dslice

Then yeah Nelth probs wins there

[hexed frost]

Yeah it's Dslice

[queen crest]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/adrHMyW84tzRK1B7#fight=54&type=summary can someone review my logs pls`?

[shadow badger]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[unkempt herald]

im so bad, my dps is 200k in m+ and im ilvl 490

[pure moth]

Not sure what level you're running. However damage is dependent on key level, pull size and comp really. You're also not very geared yet. Not sure what you're doing rotationally to try and help.

[pure moth]

At a glance your crimson tempest looks fairly low. You only had 22 casts throughout entire dungeon. Timer says 22 minutes. So it's like you pressed it once a minute. So you're letting the bleed fall off it seems to me. you could refresh it.
So it looks like you could have used dance a few more times to potentially reapply garrote and rupture within ic windows. Overall just looks like bleed uptime could be improved.

[balmy condor]

yeah

second that

bleeds are definitely suffering

cooldowns are out too slow

and the actual cooldown rotation is a bit weird as well

like the very first opener is already very strange

instead of 3x garrote for improved garrote, you opt to cycle through multiple 3cp ruptures

which simply won't last until the end of the pull

the shiv is outside of your cds, and that crimson tempest was cast at 2cp

so the bleed spreading alone was already pretty blantantly disregarding the basics

then we got this, which I actually don't hate

this is mostly fine

but you already cast the shiv before this, so you don't have it up

but the bigger problem here

is this vanish

I'm assuming maybe a fat finger?

but you just came out of stealth, spread some bleeds

then pressed shadow dance, which you could've used to spread more bleeds if you wanted to

you opted not to, which is fine

but then pressed vanish right after

just very confusing decision making

at no point in any of this was slice and dice up either

didn't get the refresh on crimson tempest during this either

the mistakes kinda keep compounding and repeating from there

this is combo points, lots of 3 point finishers but then also generating on 4cp towards the end and overcapping

bit strange

on a later pull

you look like you're forcing yourself to 6

I can't really follow the reasoning here

so, in summary and some thing to work on:

• gotta use your stealth windows for garrote, especially on pull when you only get 3 seconds for it
• low combo point finishers just aren't gonna do it, 4 or 5 is okay, less than that is just bad
• you're slamming your shiv a lot, seemingly without much reason either. Sometimes it's before you crimson tempest, sometimes it's right after your spread your garrotes, sometimes it's when all your bleeds are almost done. The regular thing to do here is just hold it for your cooldowns so you can get your deathmark/kingsbane covered. It's 2 charges on a 30 second cooldown, it should always line up with kingsbane. If you do only have 1 charge cause you used it randomly in the pull, the charge you have left should be used on the END of the kingsbane, when the ramp is the highest, not the beginning
• have to be more disciplined about your bleeds. Garrote from stealth, crimson tempest with 100% uptime on 4+ targets, rupture to max scent of blood, rinse repeat
• generally with cooldowns especially in lower keys, you can't be afraid of just slamming out your kingsbane/deathmark right after you cleave your garrotes out and just rolling with it. Targets will die really quickly, so it's almost always better to just slam your cooldowns early after your garrotes, rather than waiting 10 seconds into a pull and having the target die with half your kingsbane remaining. This will feel really weird since you didn't prep for your cooldowns, but a cooldown with no prep is generally always better than just wasting it entirely
• the last thing is like just play with worse people or higher keys idk. Part of why your damage "sucks" is yes you're undergeared, and yes you don't have ashes or any on-use and that's really bad. But the biggest issue of them all is you're playing with two insanely cranked out DPS that are in full bis getting funneled PI in a low key. You're a class with a lot of prep time and your dots gotta tick and your party/key simply will not let that happen just by breathing on mobs. They're gonna burst harder, burst faster, sustain more, and you're gonna get gapped and that's just the life until you're geared and/or doing keys where things don't get obliterated insta

hope that helps @queen crest

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-hmm-pepehmm-table-council-gif-16396395487368552941

[balmy condor]

XxYapGodxX

[blazing jewel]

[vestal wren]

nice writeup 👍

[hexed frost]

Man M+ feels so much fun when you run with a pre-made

Breezing through 15 and 16 keys with zero deaths

[pseudo hamlet]

Pre-made usually makes DPS higher, when you coordinate, know the pulls and how each players plays you can really feel the difference 😄

[rotund oak]

mage floorpov

[pure moth]

How do you get to this graph? I want to look at my own

[balmy condor]

table resources combo points from the drop down

[pure moth]

Thanks

[balmy condor]

npnp

[hexed frost]

He got gibbed by the swirlies from lasher inside his cd windows

[rotund oak]

im actually trying to think a way to get gibbed from lasher swirlies tbh,has shimmer+AT+displacement

fun part is two of those are off gcd even

legit an immortal/unreachable class

+energized barriers

+IV if he is frost

[royal lantern]

damm

[subtle tundra]

wall of text for free

[potent raven]

me after my adderall hits :

[hexed frost]

He was, during our aa run

[rotund oak]

bruh

i think mage can do 1.5mil aoe dps there only by chaining bliz/orbs on a rof

tank doesnt even need to tank

literally a spec that can solo pulls there

[pure moth]

Thats what I said. I only wrote a couple lines. Hah

[royal lantern]

mate

you forgot mirror images

45sec DR on a 2min cd btw

[rotund oak]

true,class has a redirect/wall mechanic that heals as well

yup

[lone yarrow]

hello I'm looking for a godd suf profile any have ? 🙂

[limber lion]

suf profile?

[spice surge]

shadowed unit frames iirc

[limber lion]

Ah

No luck then

We just have weakauras and plater profiles.

[lone yarrow]

yes elvui it's so ...

[balmy condor]

base ui enjoyers

why would I need target frames

very based

[lone yarrow]

yes but ui not upgrade be like the beta in retail ...

ui upgrade on the prepatch ?

[balmy condor]

I don't understand the question

the ui on beta is the same as on retail

[clever sapphire]

only ui change i use is for the nameplates, base nameplates are so meh

i like my mobs colored in m+

[balmy condor]

yah

nameplate and weakaura

nothing else

[clever sapphire]

im pretty sure i have omni cd or omni buff or whatever to track group utility, but its to the left of my party frames and thats off my screen

[gusty mirage]

your party frames are off your screen?

[vagrant shoal]

Wasn’t there a sod channel ?

[royal lantern]

#classic-discussion probably?

rh is not really classic stuff

[clever sapphire]

nono they are on the left side, but the omni cd thingy is to the left of those

and i dont really care about that so i just dont put it on the right

[clever sapphire]

well with all the auto attack buff shit in our hero treees we might as well be soon

[heavy sentinel]

I see some sin rogues stacking verse gems is this a dps gain ive been simming but havent ever seen that as an increase

[slate crown]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Mast = Crit = Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs like Witherbark's Branch and Wafting Devotion can often de-value the stat in question. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

[slate crown]

If those rogues were doing it right, then that’s only because the sim told them to

Also sin rogue stats are all very close anyways

Or they are just stacking vers because they want the DR

So if you’re asking about dps, just use the sim, stats shift around, and honestly don’t matter all that much

[heavy sentinel]

idk i was looking at some higher parses comparing to mine and noticed some of the highest ones have evenom over KB in damage and stack vers

not for every boss but for a cpl

[slate crown]

I don’t see how stacking vers and having env over kb are related

Every stat is good, typically stacking heavy on a stat is bad but not on the order of regemming. Sim just tells you which stat is the goodest for you. For Sin, every stat can show up as your best gemming option depending on the rest of your gear.

[heavy sentinel]

yea im just saying what i saw that i thought was weird

[slate crown]

I honestly don’t remember my typical env/kb breakdown, but it wouldn’t surprise me having envenom higher, kb has been nerfed multiple times and envenom is strong. Also keep in mind if you’re looking at logs, envenom in logs I think gets combined with the tier set but it does not in details

[coral stump]

not using 2 on use trinkets only applies to 2 stat stick on uses right? ie grieftorch/ashes is okay

[normal mist]

For raid, grief/ashes is the way yes

[spice spire]

Envenom is higher in most logs unless you just omega high roll kb

[unkempt herald]

!plater

[spice surge]

!wa

[unkempt herald]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[spice surge]

Bot ignoring me, feelsbadman

[unkempt herald]

yo @limber lion im using ur plater profile but mobs plate color are all yellow in m+

ahahah unlucky

[limber lion]

Yeah, I used to have the mythic+ coloring for every dungeon but have not updated that part of the profile the past 2 seasons.

Can still manually add the mobs yourself in the settings if you care enough, it's very simple to do

Or just use a different profile if that's a killer

[woeful meteor]

You can import colours separately from the rest of the profile as well if you like the look, but want colours and get them from someone else

[unkempt herald]

I'm kind of new to the game

I have a hard time understanding which mobs need to be kicked or stun

Some guy told me I could use blind on some cast to interrupt them

[balmy condor]

Mostly just practice

[shy pecan]

Good way to learn is just straight up dying to the mechanic and looking at the death log

[spice surge]

Most UIs (including the bsae one) has some form of indication on cast bars if you can kick em or not

But theres no such thing for if a mob is able to be stunned/blinded or not, so that one you just have to learn, which is annoying and unfortunate

[rocky sluice]

!FUU

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[blissful cosmos]

in my shadowdance kingbane window should i take the time to reapply my ruptures also with my garrote in aoe in the shadowdance window in aoe if i dont have alot of ruptures out already

like should i do like 2 garrotes 2 ruptures as my finishers then go into my envenoms

[shadow badger]

prioritize recasting your garrotes to take advantage of shrouded. then squeeze in ruptures if you can without missing your shiv reapply. at the end of your window when you vanish you can get more ruptures and garrotes out again since you will get a full IC window.

[blissful cosmos]

i wont miss my shiv only thing i would worry about is letting the evenom buff drop

for like a sec

[shadow badger]

with the current tier set the envenom chain is almost top prio so get garrotes and keep envenom up if thats all you can manage

[blissful cosmos]

yea

i can sometimes do it

without letting it drop

but i wont risk it anymore

[shadow badger]

yeah more consistant to just keep envenom up

[balmy condor]

just a uhmm acktuallie, improved garrote, not shrouded

[shadow badger]

the 6 seconds between shadow dance and your vanish shouldn't really drop ruptures

[shadow badger]

[balmy condor]

the vanish is only in single target it's whatever

in aoe you just hold the vanish for when you need bleeds

[blissful cosmos]

i got into a habbit of vanishing even in aoe 3 sec sbefore my death mark is over

[balmy condor]

yeh stop that

[blissful cosmos]

alright il actually wait to my bleeds drop then

[unkempt herald]

wait you guys always shadowdance before kingsbane ?

[shadow badger]

yes for nightstalker damage buff

[balmy condor]

yes

macro'd together

[shadow badger]

you can bind embersoul to deathmark and shadow dance to kingsbane to make your kingsbane window opener 3 buttons

[balmy condor]

well, embersoul to kingsbane ideally as well

but some prefer it on deathmark cause they're bozos and can't sync cds together

[fleet pagoda]

is it reasonable to assume Unbreakable Stride might reduce the duration of Chrono-Lord Deios' DoT, in Ulda?

[balmy condor]

what dot exactly

the dispel?

[fleet pagoda]

Time Sink, it reduces movement speed by 35% in addition to causing damage

[balmy condor]

would assume it doesn't work then

[fleet pagoda]

tyty

[balmy condor]

general rule is if it's a slow, it's reduced

if it does damage with a slow on top of it

it doesn't

[fleet pagoda]

makes sense, would be too powerful otherwise i reckon

[balmy condor]

I guess that's what they're assuming

but it's such an incredibly niche talent that it would probably be fine

[fleet pagoda]

probably for the sake of PvPers, I can see that magnifying their turmoil ty for advising on it though, wasn't sure what the general tech for it was

[coral stump]

hey for the kingsbane timeline WA, i have every tick checked but none of them seem to appear? idk why thats happening

[balmy condor]

@slate crown

she's the one you'd have to ask

[slate crown]

When you cast KB none show up? Or do you mean in that preview aura at the bottom of the screen

[coral stump]

oh just in the preview aura, i havent popped kb and looked at it

ill do that and lyk

[balmy condor]

preview auras suck

[slate crown]

Yeah the WA preview won’t show them, previews typically don’t show lots of the complicated stuff

[balmy condor]

why say lot word when few word do trick

[slate crown]

You know I had like 3 more sentences I thought about typing

But I cut them

Just for u

[coral stump]

wow misled and lied to

[balmy condor]

works?

[coral stump]

yeah the preview just sucks

smh

[balmy condor]

yeh

3 things you never trust in wow

1. tooltips
2. tier lists
3. wa previews

[marble hemlock]

1. warlocks
2. boomkins
3. warlocks

[balmy condor]

incorrect

no mages or evokers on the list

[shy pecan]

Yeah, where’s mages?

[strange python]

Any time you look for mages you can find them drinking coffee with the devs 🙂

[wicked egret]

hello yall, can i ask question about mutilate in here?

[balmy condor]

we cast that a lot

primary experts on mutilate

[wicked egret]

does the 20% damage increase proc from instant poison?

or is it only debuffed poisons like crippling

[balmy condor]

we don't have a 20% damage increase talent

fatal concoction is 10%

that works with instant

[wicked egret]

wow classic mutilate

[balmy condor]

oh

we don't do classic here

[wicked egret]

sadge

[balmy condor]

there's links to classic discords in #classic-discussion

would suggest going there

[wicked egret]

ok thanks

[silk bane]

new content, tier list of wow tooltips and how off they are

[coral stump]

sounds like 2 of the 3 things to never trust

[balmy condor]

S tier -> buffs to "poison" and what they apply to

except they fixed most of that in 10.2

I loved trolling newer rogues with that

[silk bane]

we just do a stream vote tbh

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-cream-prank-trick-cone-gif-3547066

was me fr

you'd start off slow like does shiv apply to envenom

and they'd go "well obviously"

okay what about mastery

"uh.. yeah"

okay, so mastery says poisons, so does zold count?

"yes?"

haha gottem

and then you hit them with the fucking crossover of a lifetime

and reveal dashing works with envenom

full ankle breaker

[silk bane]

oh yeah thats a classic

theyll never see that one coming

[balmy condor]

but now everything works and things say "weapon poison" instead

my ankle breaker nooooooooooooooooo

[silk bane]

cant wait for all the new ones from deathstalker

[balmy condor]

[silk bane]

but does the aa plague work with zoldyk?

wat about mastery?

and then they read fatal intent or w/e