assassination

[balmy condor]

My see button

Me press button

Job done

Go home

Already home

Shit

[clever sapphire]

already took a shit

what now

lemme go out so i can go back home

[balmy condor]

Wer nicht geht, kommt nicht wieder

Ancient German proverb

Or my dad being a silly goose

Either or

[clever sapphire]

my quote from back when i was still in school "ich geh in die schule damit ich nach hause gehen kann" (i go to school just so i can go back home)

[balmy condor]

True

[clever sapphire]

im shakespeares incarnation

confirmed

[balmy condor]

Life is a never ending series of going to places you don’t want to go, so that you can go to places you do want to go

[clever sapphire]

probably the first one

man this tedtalk is hitting deep

[quiet oar]

Wer nicht wagt, der nicht gewinnt

[balmy condor]

You go to work so you can go home
Work also gives you money so you can go on vacation when you don’t want to be home, but then you get sick of being away from home so you’re happy to go back home

You’re old so you get sick

Don’t want to go to hospital

So you’re happy when you go home

[clever sapphire]

late night thoughts with whispyr

or early morning?

[balmy condor]

It’s just a cycle of needing to be in a shit place so that you’re happy to be in a not shit place

[balmy condor]

Late night

[vestal wren]

this could be wow related too

[balmy condor]

True

Lately it feels like shit place -> slightly less shit place though

[clever sapphire]

just gotta keep up the loop long enough and its gonna be a good place

[balmy condor]

Problem is that when you reach a far enough point in the cycle, blizzard decides to delete the last 2 years of dev time and start from scratch

Sorry, talents are evergreen obviously

[vestal wren]

that was what i thought in bfa after legion
and in sl after bfa

[balmy condor]

(They’re gonna be completely reworked back to a mop-style system after midnight because of “overwhelming feedback that having so many talents is overbearing on new players and most choices aren’t impactful. These changes should make every decision have weight and make choices matter.”)

[vestal wren]

was DF the destination?

[royal lantern]

how long until "hero talents" will just mean "we do a bigger tree update and put a couple of the hero tree things into them"?

[balmy condor]

I don’t think hero talents survive past this expac

Ngl

[royal lantern]

honestly? same

[vestal wren]

but its the worldsaga

[royal lantern]

like, the reality will hit people HARD whennTWW releases and they are forced to play with them

[balmy condor]

They’ll probably shovel them out after tww like covenants and then water them down to like a 3 passive cluster onto the specs

[royal lantern]

ye

[balmy condor]

Or just delete the bottom half of the class trees

And make 3 rows

One for each hero talent

And then gg

[vestal wren]

what if

every talent node in the oöd tree

legion style tree

i now its own hero talent style tree

[balmy condor]

Tree within tree

[dark token]

"evergreen" content btw

[royal lantern]

like

rider dk could be a single talent lol

[vestal wren]

jokes aside, i was like "no way sub will get more complicated"

[balmy condor]

Idk man, it honestly feels like they could’ve just made the hero talents 3 individual talents and then replaced tea/er/dance with them

[royal lantern]

yes

cus like

[vestal wren]

blizz in tww "hold my beer"

[royal lantern]

rogue class tree capstones are allready yikes

[dark token]

I feel like an additional talent row for each spec and reworking pathing again would have been better

[quiet oar]

what if

[balmy condor]

Regardless of the actual hero talents themselves, this shit really doesn’t feel like a whole expansion feature ngl

[quiet oar]

we had 3 rows

and you could choose between 1 of them

[vestal wren]

blizz did poor worldbuilding with them

[balmy condor]

What if

Blizzard actually hired class devs

So that they wouldn’t be forced to triage

24/7

And then we could actually get somewhere

[vestal wren]

remember how everyone was excited for artifact weapon quests

[quiet oar]

That would cost money

cant do that

try again

[balmy condor]

True sorry

[vestal wren]

then all the unlocks around them

[balmy condor]

Another expansion of triaging classes and specs

And another expansion of what community can scream for changes the loudest

Actual race to the bottom

Everyone screams and whoever screams more gets triaged for a patch to stop the screaming

[royal lantern]

i made a wall of text in ptr channel before about it tbh

TWW in general feels like as if it will get a really bad reaction after the initial honeymoon phase

outside of "you get a couple akward shoved in talents that make some specs actually worse" you have "grind mindless world events so you can do a 10min solo dungeon" as the 2 features, and thats it

and sorry, but you cant tell me that delves will be that longtime commitment thing that makes people log into the game 2months after the release

im really cautious with my TWW hype at this point

[vestal wren]

the raid felt good in testing

[balmy condor]

Yeah I’m hopeful for raids and delves

[vestal wren]

positive vibes

[balmy condor]

Delves are pretty fun

[spice spire]

No

[balmy condor]

M+ still needs some divine intervention imo but blizzard doesn’t really know what it wants m+ to be either atm so whatever

Seasonal affixes, no seasonal affixes, affixes at 2/4/7, affixes at fucking 2/15/35

Timer matters, timer doesn’t matter

Kick a billion things

Now stuns don’t do shit

Can’t stun that guy either

Can’t silence this dude

[quiet oar]

Even tho you arent green anymore

can you still do log review?

[balmy condor]

Like blizzards gotta just fucking lock in on something man idk

It’s legit less than an expac from having seasonal affix, to blizzard saying seasonal affixes aren’t healthy, to adding back a seasonal affix

What are we doing

[royal lantern]

the problem is

they want m+ to be this serious mode where playing perfect matters

at the same time people fucking hate that cus it makes m+ just not fun

[quiet oar]

We going full circle

whisp

[royal lantern]

and they always dance back and forth

[balmy condor]

Yeah can tell

Can we full circle back to m+ being a fun aoe fiesta maybe?

[spice spire]

No

[balmy condor]

Insanely hot take incoming

Sometimes I think cc just shouldnt exist

What’s the difference between a kidney and a kick with a 6 second lockout

What do I get from having all these cc’s on my bar

[spice spire]

Your tank has an easier chance to live

[balmy condor]

Have kicks for big scary casts, actual mechanic if you kick you’re good, if you don’t it’s pain

Tune melees and tanks to be able to live mobs that arent stunned

Aoe blast

This is my vision for m+

Like make the kick mechanics fucking GIGANTIC

I want the mfer to raise his hands to the sky and bring the sky down on my ass if I don’t stop him

But if I do stop him, and I kick that guy

I don’t wanna hear shit

[spice spire]

Whole point is the constant scaling though. Eventually that shit will kill

[balmy condor]

I did my thing

I kicked that guy

[spice spire]

And then stubs needed

The hamster wheel keeps going

Don’t bring logic to m+

[balmy condor]

That’s fine

And tbh

[vestal wren]

https://tenor.com/view/majoras-mask-zelda-moon-crash-gif-20298361

[spice spire]

These players will goon for a level to be one shot then complain about it for six months

There’s no logic there

[royal lantern]

dont forget

"we want you to play the dungeons, not the affixes, so the affixes should be minor and not have huge impact on the gameplay of the run itself"->"we make CC and interupts even MORE important"->"here is a affix that needs you to aoe cc for it or you wipe"

like, just ????????

ik the affix rn is not a big deal at all, but just the thought Process there, why do they ALWAYS say X and then do the absolute opposite?

[balmy condor]

In my world, I don’t think mechanics should ever scale to the point of being unlivable

The check here

Should be the timer

And eventually you just can’t pull big enough cause you can’t kick all the sky-falling casters

Like if you gotta pull 5, 6, 7 packs

To beat the timer

And you just can’t deal with that mechanically

That should fail you

But I personally don’t think it should be “oh I’m in a +37 and this guy cast something I couldn’t stop and now my healer can’t keep up with a 9 million dps dot that ticks every 0.2 seconds”

That shit is cancer

That bleed dot from the snake boss in uldaman

Actually ruined the whole dungeon for me

[spice spire]

[hearty reef]

Not the golem aoes?

[vestal wren]

stoneform

[balmy condor]

Golem aoe is aids too

But yeh idk

I’m maybe cooked and I get it’s not everyone’s vision

But there should be clear pass/fail mechanics

And other than that fuck off

And let me blast

[hearty reef]

No no sorry no the big golem aoe, the little stone dwarves aoe

That you pull 7 of them and they all pulse together

[balmy condor]

Yeh

[vestal wren]

the better way to fail is due to timer and not because everything oneshots

[hearty reef]

Blind em and they stop for 1 sec cus cast has no cd

[vestal wren]

so not coked, good take

[balmy condor]

Delete CC, make kick mechanics big casts that pass/fail

Make the timer matter

Design dungeons with like 500% trash but you always have options on which to pull like a pick-a-path

Big aoe = big fun

This is my vision

[runic matrix]

does that mean OL can be uncapped then

[balmy condor]

Yes

[runic matrix]

[vestal wren]

uncapped below 8 targets (i am joking)

[hearty reef]

Funny how players scenarios always make everyone happy

[balmy condor]

Trying to make m+ a comp mode actually ruined it tbh

They spent so much time trying to make it an esport to where now it’s just degenerate and not fun

[runic matrix]

i mean my 2 biggest issues with m+ have always been, dogshit affixes (just let me play the dungeon) and such wildly differing dmg dropoffs on targetcounts for every spec

when at the end of the day, the bigger you pull the faster you go is how it ends up being played

[balmy condor]

They added target caps to try and cut down on huge pulls and specs that scaled like crazy on large pulls

And then ended up still having god comps and huge pulls

[runic matrix]

if you want to tone down pull size

nerf tank aoe

lol

if a tank can only pull 5 mobs, you're not going to be pulling more unless you do some extreme kiting shennanigans

[clever sapphire]

my tanks cant even hold aggro when they are standing still

and you want them to kite

please n

no*

[runic matrix]

i meant some BfA s4 type shit where they just kited the large portal dudes the entire last bossfight

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointment-disappointed-food-review-meme-gif-16003613

[royal lantern]

it doesnt, because players tend to be bad at comming up with Solitions

the problem is, blizzard is that aswell, and tends to be VERY stubborn and instead tripple downs on a bad desicion before finally going back and listen to the people that actually play the game

[quiet oar]

No cant do that

They chose the "no fun" circle

[runic matrix]

fun wasnt allowed when they decided to bake in rio into the game

[clever sapphire]

just play aug guys, its a really fun spec and everyone loves it thats why its in the game

[royal lantern]

also doesnt help that sometimes they are straight up stupid lol

just as an recent example? the entire thing where they said "AoE CC is too important in m+, so we remove the spell lockout from CC skills"

when that just makes aoe CC even MORE important

like, do they even thought about that for 5seconds at all lol

[runic matrix]

yeah no clue what they were thinking with that one

[quiet oar]

How about

just reducing the casts of the enemies

I want to pull 6 mobs together without them all casting a spell nonstop that puts dps players to 30% life

[balmy condor]

ONE BIG CAST TO KICK

NO MORE

[quiet oar]

Remember

when you had to kick a lot of things

but there was an affix

That prevented crowd control next to a certain Inspiring mob

[balmy condor]

I wanted to forget

[quiet oar]

one has to remember

[gusty mirage]

@balmy condor hi huge fan

https://tenor.com/view/im-a-big-fan-lewi-lewis-fan-spinning-nikocado-avacado-gif-21664606

[balmy condor]

Hi Oxi huge fan

[rotund oak]

bruh its so hot here those things do nothing

i sht you not

[gusty mirage]

lmao

my parents in 80% humidity "TURN ON THE FAN"

like for what

so I can blow hot musty ass air in my face?

[rotund oak]

ive put 2 watermelons on the freezer,bought myself ice water(strawberry and lemon and cheryr for my gf) and ice cream

already showered twice

[gusty mirage]

bro I do not envy anyone in the mediterranean during the months of july and august

fuck that

from memory, Beirut is unbearable in July/August

it's just hot and sticky 24/7

[rotund oak]

its hell,literally

[gusty mirage]

idk how anyone sleeps

I never got more than 2 hours of sleep cause I was just sweating

[rotund oak]

yeah if not for the air condition ild just go and sleep on the beach

f@ck summer rly

u cant work,u basicly torture urself with the heat

cant eat

cant do anything,just wait for the sun to drop

everyone that likes summer has a mental condition

period

[gusty mirage]

the people who like summer live in a place where winter is just as hellish as your summer

[grim jay]

Germany is a shithole nowadays in those months

[gusty mirage]

same

[grim jay]

Like its not really hot usually but

[gusty mirage]

I just get to be miserable year round

it's pretty cool

[grim jay]

30 - 10 - 30 - 10 - 30 - 10

[gusty mirage]

winter fucking sucks, lots of snow, very cold, summer very hot and humid

[grim jay]

How do you get used to that

Swings are wild

[gusty mirage]

the in between seasons that are normally fine has tons of rain, even if the weather is fine, the roads are all under construction

[royal lantern]

my headache says: not at all

[grim jay]

Same

[gusty mirage]

climate change is fake

that's what american politicians told me

and they'd never lie to me

[royal lantern]

how earth more hot if snow?????

[gusty mirage]

CHECKMATE SCIENCE LOSERS

[clever sapphire]

guys just turn on all the AC-s and cool the earth down

[royal lantern]

(i never had a white christmas in my entire life btw)

[gusty mirage]

what if we all just jumped up simulataneously in the northern hemisphere

and shifted the earth like

half a meter away from the sun

[clever sapphire]

i think my last white christmas was like 14 years ago

[royal lantern]

isnt that a futurama episode oxi

[gusty mirage]

yeah that and a giant ice cube in the north pole

lmfao

[quiet oar]

If the climste changes, why Do we still have summer and Winter????

[clever sapphire]

also wasnt there an apartment complex in japan where they turned on all the ACs at once and they made a small tornado because of the instant temp change?

or did i watch some movie

[royal lantern]

and thats still more work then we do IRL against climate change

i wanna get off this ride

[gusty mirage]

yo hear me out

what if we all opened our refridgerators in the summer

and let the cold air out

[grim jay]

We would be fuckin poor

[gusty mirage]

lmfao

and all our food would be ruined

[grim jay]

Did you check electricity prices

Dang

[gusty mirage]

Yes unfortunately I have

very cool that government enabled monopolies can charge us premiums for energy use during the summer

[clever sapphire]

guys have you tried not using electricity?

made my bills go down

[grim jay]

Its still 1.5 times of what it was before that guy got upset because he fell down his bear and hit his head

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-face-surprised-wee-bey-the-wire-revelation-gif-23831754

[spice surge]

Brother out here with the secret amish saving techniques

[grim jay]

Im at like 150 Euro electricity and 490 gas rn

A month

From 70 / 119

[quiet oar]

Guys have you tried making fire with sticks and stones?

Saves some Gas in Winter

[gusty mirage]

Have you just tried not being poor?

[clever sapphire]

that would be even smarter

[royal lantern]

i actually did that once

[gusty mirage]

costs don't matter as much if you wipe your ass with 100 dollars/euros

think about it

I hope it's 100 euro coins tho

[rotund oak]

because climate is a pattern of climatic characterists as in the weather conditions prevailing in a region over a long period,epochs are there no matter the conditions

[gusty mirage]

cause that'd be hilarious

watching someone wipe their ass with 100 coins

[grim jay]

It honestly doesnt really affect me but I still get upset

[clever sapphire]

wait im gonna try wiping my ass with that, but if it still matters to me you owe me a few hundred euros

[grim jay]

Because I hate spending unnecessary

[gusty mirage]

[clever sapphire]

[quiet oar]

Thsts hocuspocus the guys in the Facebook forum said its a lie

[rotund oak]

😂

[quiet oar]

And they would never lie on the Internet

[rotund oak]

no way

[quiet oar]

Right???

I mean if they lie to me @gusty mirage will sue them for me

[clever sapphire]

even less so on facebook forums

scientists got nothing on those posts

[grim jay]

Id rather trust Facebook than reddit tho

[rotund oak]

ild want Oxi for my lawyer if i ever had issues with the law

[grim jay]

ild want Oxi for my lawyer if i ever had issues with the law

Fixed your message

[rotund oak]

[grim jay]

Dw

We all do

Rumors say Channing Tatum is a bit jealous of oxis charm

[rotund oak]

Ild say if we were to vote between whispyr and oxi

in terms of charms

would be hard to pick

[clever sapphire]

i would refuse to pick sides

[quiet oar]

[grim jay]

We have those sweets in germany we love as kids

[rotund oak]

i ate those like 25 years ago

lol

[grim jay]

I mean we get brought up like that

So might aswell "take two"

[rotund oak]

dauym

the vibes

[drifting wing]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[gusty mirage]

well it's illegal to lie on the internet

so

[royal lantern]

ah yes, "kids"

[quiet oar]

Im definitely not eating those

noo

not me

[royal lantern]

die mit der saft füllung ploppen immer so schön wenn man draufbeist

[clever sapphire]

thats my moms favourite one, she always asks me to get those if i go shopping xD

[gusty mirage]

bless you

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

[spice surge]

"Caught" is prouncced roughly the same as the swedish word for horny, kåt

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

I’ll never escape the allegations

[thorn fjord]

How long till we start seeing people we aint seen in months in here dooming?

[spice spire]

I’m right here

[fallen arch]

Me too

Tier list with rogue in F tier when

[vestal wren]

probably not before tww pre patch or raid

the game can be considered dead atm

most ppl i know play other games atm and just wait for xpac release

[thorn fjord]

Thats what ive been doing

[vestal wren]

also there is a honeymoon phase

the first month of almost each content release was positive in feedback

most ppl start to find problems after this phase, when the hype fades away

[fallen arch]

Holy shit yes it’s dead

Group finder is basically empty

[clever sapphire]

relatable, not getting invited into any key and nobody relevant signing up to my key because i got a shitty NO 13

[normal mist]

Just like a real relationship

[clever sapphire]

that moment when your offhand weapon breaks for some reason at the last boss in av and you have to swap weapons mid fight

who doesnt know that feeling

[rotund oak]

s4 ending soon notice just dropped boys

lets go

[clever sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-cat-peek-gif-10008520

[potent raven]

hell o i timed a 14 neltharus GGS @clever sapphire

omg i want s3 back bro what are those keys even

[clever sapphire]

half the keys i dont wanna touch

the other half i like people suck ass at

[potent raven]

so true bro

[thorn fjord]

This season was straight trash

[clever sapphire]

well i mean it was pretty much just blizzard looking into the fridge, seeing that they still have everything in there from DF and just put that on the table

they microwaved the previous dungeons/raids a bit so it looks "fresh" and told us to enjoy it

[potent raven]

filler season

[shadow badger]

just clarifying because idk if i read this anywhere or not. with sanguine blades, i want to stay above 50% energy without dropping dots or missing cd windows right? thats the whole point of the talent?

[fallen arch]

It’s not something u actually care about inside cds

Outside cds you pool and benefit from sanguine blades yes

[shadow badger]

what do i do inside cds

just build and spend on envenmon?

[clever sapphire]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[clever sapphire]

well you pool for envenom chains, not for sanguine blades

[shadow badger]

ah so its more about chaining the tier set rather than keeping aboe 50% energy

[clever sapphire]

yap

[thorn fjord]

Like microwaving fish in the breakroom

[silk bane]

aww u caught me. now gl figuring out which one i meant

[shy pecan]

[silk bane]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-26414884

[fallen arch]

Side benefit

I never ever actually think about sb

[clever sapphire]

ah being back home just feels so nice

[viscid estuary]

are our bleeds able to proc the nelth call to suffering trinket?

[clever sapphire]

aye

[thorn fjord]

Where are your pants?!

[clever sapphire]

look closer

i have shorts on

[thorn fjord]

Ah

I SEE YOU BOO

[cerulean nest]

why is my cloak timing different between sub and sin

is there some cdr im forgetting about

[spice surge]

Shadowdust

[cerulean nest]

ah

forget that applied to cloak

[dry grove]

I know there is a way to recover items you accidentally sell, is there a way to refund a bullion item you bought and found out was less DPS than another item?

[viral stump]

What tinker item should be used with Unnecessarily Complex wrists?

I mean, there's a socket in it for a tinker item

[raven night]

if u have engineering leveled u want the 15% reduction

because there are 2 failures

and the engineering profession prevents the massive failure that disables them for 6 hrs, very rare tho

doesnt reset on a new key or anything

so u want the minor fail 15% reduction

@viral stump

[heavy sentinel]

whats the DR limit on mastery?

[shy pecan]

That's a sim question. Need to sim it to see how bad it is for you after X amount

[spice surge]

Assuming its for remix its like 36k

[shy pecan]

Oh yeah, that's a thing still

[shadow badger]

rare huh i rolled it 3 times in a row within 2 days

[raven night]

the debuff?

cuz that is wild

[shadow badger]

yeah lol

[raven night]

when i looked up the debuff on wowhead there were no comments

once in like 3 seasons of running a crafted brez

[shadow badger]

i legit got the fucking debuff, after 6 hours failed 4 times in a row, then got it again, then same exact thing again

still waiting for the debuff to fall off rn

[raven night]

weird for sure haha

can u show me the spellid btw wanna look it up again

but yah level engi to have a 0% chance of that

u want both of those

[shadow badger]

yeah but i have full leatherworking and inscription. next expansion ill sack inscription for it.

[raven night]

oof then u def want the major failure modifier

[shadow badger]

yeah i probably shoulda put one in

[raven night]

profs for non mains, alc and engi really good

[short flint]

does the 30% reduction in application chance from dragon tempered blades only apply to the additional poisons you can add? if so how does it choose which poison to reduce

[balmy condor]

It doesn’t have to choose

It’s all of them

[short flint]

oh ok thx!

[fallen arch]

Ye man, I miss those Bonefuckers too sometimes

[silent gale]

Which M+ talent build do we pick up on the wowhead class guide?

[shadow badger]

With dragon tempered. If I applied only atrophic would it reduce its effectiveness still?

[balmy condor]

what

dragon tempered is application rate

its got nothing to do with effectiveness

[shadow badger]

Oh I always thought it was effectiveness

[silent gale]

Which of Whispyr's build on the wowhead site do I take for standard pug keys of 8-12?

[balmy condor]

arterial

[shy pecan]

We suggest utilizing the Arterial Shock build if you're playing any key under a 15, but the Hybrid and Cleave builds can be useful if you know things will live long enough to make the most of your KBs

[balmy condor]

that's why it's listed first

[silent gale]

But there's no poison bomb which is why I was confused

[shy pecan]

You don't need poison bomb to run M+.

[balmy condor]

poison bomb is a weird thing to want

considering it's like

2.5%?

3%?

for 2 points

[silent gale]

Oh it's not that good

[balmy condor]

thing sucks ass

[silent gale]

Ok then thank you that would explains

[balmy condor]

poison bomb is the gateway to dragon tempered

and that's its whole purpose

[shadow badger]

What’s the difference between dragon tempered and arterial numerically

[balmy condor]

no clue

[shadow badger]

Let me rephrase to a question worth asking, what is the reason to take one over the other. Even in the highest keys rn it seems split on what is taken.

[balmy condor]

anything with dragon tempered is heavy single target

higher end key player prefer it

lower end keys you shouldn't play something single target focused cause nothing will survive long enough for your kingsbane

and then you'll do dogshit damage

[shadow badger]

Omg it’s the other way around than I thought

https://tenor.com/view/what-am-i-doing-james-franco-30rock-why-am-i-doing-this-doubt-gif-21961862

[fallen arch]

Depends on key level

Around 12s my damage is about the same with cleave or arterial

But the damage is dsitributed differently

I feel you help your group more with cleave tbh because your st damage is better

That is however assuming your trash damage is high enough from your other dps brothers

[shadow badger]

And cleave is with dragon tempered?

[clever sapphire]

I wouldnt suggest cleave in keys under 15 and or ruby

[shadow badger]

Let me get this straight. What build is cleave. What build is not.

[clever sapphire]

Cleave is the no ct

Where you take the nornal ST build, talent into spatter, IC and call it a day

(I think also into iron wire)

[shadow badger]

So you won’t have Sudden demise in the cleave build

And would mostly be focusing on ST damage

Idk why but sin build are not very clear what is what to me

[clever sapphire]

Schock build is you take left/right side without dragon tempered blades

Works well in low keys because it doesnt focus much on your kingsbane/spatter dmg

Hybrid build is where you dont take arterial/blindside and so on. So you go into the middle and the right side (still take CT)

This is mostly played in high keys imo because you got good prio dmg, you have good boss dmg and your aoe is also pretty good

Doesnt work well in low keys because there isnt really a kb target

Cleave is just an Sat build where spatter does the work, hence why its called cleave

Because you dont really care about bleeds besides for energy regen maybe

I think this should kinda explain the builds (i hope i explained them well and wont get scolded for spreading dumb info )

[shadow badger]

Nah that makes sense

I’m screenshotting this so I can compare to the tree when I get on tomorrow

And run keys with the builds

[clever sapphire]

[potent raven]

hello

[rotund oak]

hi fren

[normal mist]

Hello

[spice surge]

Greetings traveller!

[gusty mirage]

Zug zug

[clever sapphire]

there i go

i am the smart

[snow kiln]

When will they fix corrupt the blood taking us out of stealth :D?

[normal mist]

Oh no S2 happening again

[royal lantern]

the same way they fixed sark cloak

not at all, and it stops mattering when they delete hero talents after TWW

[flint marsh]

do peeps sim the algethar buffs or just take the same one every time

[royal lantern]

you just take red cus its 5% more dmg done / 2,5% less dmg taken and call it a day lol

[brazen fern]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[potent raven]

95 parse on tindral

private logging zz

no pi

[limber lion]

Gzgz

Private logging Fated

Gamer move

[potent raven]

just boosting

always private

[limber lion]

I never had private logs when boosting

[potent raven]

its outta my control

my guilds always private logging i think

[woeful meteor]

we had guy ask if we can private his Fyrakk Kill this Season, cause he has to play a diff char now

[potent raven]

lmao

[fresh kelp]

Whats a good M+ build this week for 10-12 range?

[royal lantern]

the same as every m+ build before

[shy pecan]

Yeah, just play Arterial Shock.

[pure moth]

Could always just log yourself

[clever sapphire]

if you public log in a guild thats private logging you will get problems

[green flare]

Hey, is there already a Preraid BiS and maybe a Raid BiS List ?

[runic hinge]

Are you talking about SoD?

[green flare]

Ah, yeah i do 😂👌

[runic hinge]

If you check #classic-discussion there should be something in the pins to a SoD discord, this one is for retail

[green flare]

Ohh, thank you

[tacit charm]

Kyio, you should join Simonize discord

He’s the rogue Sod guy, have all the information you could want

[potent raven]

yeah

[green flare]

Okay, ill try to find his discord 🙂 thx

[tacit charm]

He has a twitch and his disc is in the description

[proven jasper]

Simonize is a legend

[tacit charm]

Real

[proven jasper]

Love that dude

[tacit charm]

Yea. I was watching his stream yesterday when he was doing the sims with the newly released gear, was cool to watch

[proven jasper]

hell yeah, i used to watch him a ton when wotlk classic was big

[potent raven]

same

[ocean quiver]

these parses are so sadge man

[sick sail]

Nice. God I hope assa rogue is fun in TWW. Tired of seeing all these beautiful cool hero talents from other classes. They gotta chill with hunter, every day is new hunter stuff

[normal mist]

The trick is not to look to the other classes changes

[ocean quiver]

Part of me is hoping that assassin is so bad that no one plays it

then I will main it

and have super high parses

and then when it gets buffed and becomes op i'll be top still

[earnest remnant]

it can actually be harder to get "high" percentiles the less people that are playing it

like sub rogue back in Castle nathria rank 2 on sire denathrius was a 95 parse

[ocean quiver]

what the flip

[earnest remnant]

welcome to how percentiles work

[limber lion]

Yep

And the people getting the r1's are the tryhard OTP's

[earnest remnant]

but you will be higher on ASP rankings

[ocean quiver]

Well I am the best rogue player to exist so i'll be rank1 regardless

[earnest remnant]

fair

Found it

[limber lion]

The 94 parse above suggests differently, but we take it

[earnest remnant]

SLG

but same shit

[shy pecan]

No #1... smh

I guess you could take the #1 racoon title though

[earnest remnant]

alot of familiar names on this list from CN

[shy pecan]

Is that Kiwi that posts in POE? I don't recognize the other names besides you and Push

[ocean quiver]

Oh there's me

Bogus

[silk bane]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[sick sail]

Need to watch more whispyr guides and get this assa rust off

[spice spire]

Miss push sm

[silk bane]

aare u push? cuz i miss u sm too

[spice spire]

Babe?

[ocean quiver]

Unironically tho

cheeky flex real quick

hit me up for tips

[limber lion]

Not a single r1

[spice spire]

Damn

[balmy condor]

bro for sure crits his kingsbane

[ocean quiver]

everyone padding that's why

[balmy condor]

mad cause no procs during deathmark

[ocean quiver]

yeah sub going brrr with deathmark

[balmy condor]

yep

bad specs don't exist in my psyche

[ocean quiver]

listen buddy

look at this

out dps a ret

broken class and pro me

[woeful meteor]

[ocean quiver]

I am him

[shy pecan]

Anyway...

[earnest remnant]

fuck you take this then

[ocean quiver]

106 💀

[shy pecan]

Better son, minus the 106

[spice spire]

Vitamin C check

[earnest remnant]

we dont mention this was boss dmg parses

[ocean quiver]

easy to get rank 1 parse when there's 3 people playing the spec

[balmy condor]

Vitamin Me check

[spice spire]

missing u today king

[shy pecan]

Got plenty of it, thanks

[shy pecan]

Now I wanna look at them...

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dont-care-didnt-ask-didnt-ask-i-didnt-ask-gif-25429803

[shy pecan]

Nah, imagine looking at parses

[balmy condor]

no one's talking to you ed

smh

[spice surge]

Tww channels are definitely taking their vitamin reeees

[earnest remnant]

here you, the normal ones

[spice spire]

Rude you literally pinged me

[shy pecan]

[earnest remnant]

got griefed by Dathea

[balmy condor]

you're ed with a couple extra steps

[earnest remnant]

its unfortunate

[spice spire]

True

[shy pecan]

You sound like taking Vitamin You is a bad thing

[spice spire]

Fredward minus the fr

[shy pecan]

RIP in pepperinos

[balmy condor]

freakbob minus the ong

https://tenor.com/view/freakbob-calling-spongebob-freak-freaky-gif-12584863174436367780

[earnest remnant]

forever stuck on boss platform

[shy pecan]

The worst

[earnest remnant]

mad cuz gapped

[shy pecan]

Aren't you suppose to be in bed by now?

[earnest remnant]

mr in my DMs that tier asking for help

[shy pecan]

@blazing jewel

[blazing jewel]

kekw

hey man I was still a shitter that tier

I needed the help

[shy pecan]

[blazing jewel]

now im retired like youre soon to be

[limber lion]

hey can I also join!

[earnest remnant]

damn only kept one

washed cev

smh

[limber lion]

it's true

had to retire, too embarrassing

now a dirty sorcerer in last epoch

[earnest remnant]

this tier was a close one

[blazing jewel]

[earnest remnant]

and then people call me an otp

[limber lion]

Honestly even more fun seeing multiple specs

[blazing jewel]

never r1 on amalg or experiments because we didnt do speed strats

[limber lion]

I only play one spec :(

[earnest remnant]

i had those two for so long

but they got yoinked at the end

[blazing jewel]

that always happens man

take that two week break at the end of the tier

rip parses

[limber lion]

Yep

[shy pecan]

At least you didn't get beat by some rogue named Scana

[limber lion]

Honestly, if Assa stays away from the PI spotlight in TWW and they get rid of the fucking ass 1 rpm enchants and trinkets, I might give the game another shot

Maybe

As in, not just casually doing the odd mythic+ dungeon here and there

[blazing jewel]

we love sophic devotion

and call to suffering

[earnest remnant]

yes we do

[spice surge]

Iirc PI is still like 4% as assa, so still pretty substantial but probably not the absolute top dog. Ok nvm its still almost at 5% with the trinket Possible some other spec has it higher thou

[blazing jewel]

literally the only reason I got my really good smold log with dogshit trinkets lol

I had like 30% but it was in the good spots to have uptime

[shy pecan]

RNG is da best

[runic hinge]

Just proc better bozo

[blazing jewel]

where is proc master

@keen spruce

[runic hinge]

Retired

To the skies

[shy pecan]

Quacktain Froggers

[keen spruce]

I’m not home

[earnest remnant]

ofc you arent

you are shmoopy the frogh

[shy pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgHW02YF50s

[halcyon crypt]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[glass hemlock]

Rogues who play assa and outlaw, do you have 2 different weak aura packs etc? I used LE’s pack for assa, I assume it all works for outlaw? Just a few different things needed for specifically outlaw?

[spice spire]

@slate crown gonna ping her directly unsure personally because I’ve been an afenar simp forever

[glass hemlock]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[spice spire]

But LE is super helpful if you want to add more to it as well 🙂

[slate crown]

If there are things it doesn't do for outlaw I'd be interested to know. It is intended as a class-wide pack, including outlaw

The only thing I can see is that it doesn't include the alert for warning against spamming BTE during crackshot that zac made

That's not baked into it, but I didn't feel the need to recreate it because it's already a standalone in the outlaw channel

[glass hemlock]

Appreciate that, thank you. i want to learn outlaw as well and know how important the WA's are haha! thanks so much

[slate crown]

Like, upon playing it more on the TWW Beta I've made some adjustments to the entire pack at a base level, including outlaw stuff, like the glows on Blade flurry I felt weren't ideal so I updated them on the TWW version, I'm not intending to make any major changes to the DF version for now and just including any updates in the TWW version moving forward

[spice spire]

Do you have any outlaw friends? Like maybe one with an incredibly cute dog

[slate crown]

But just minor things like that, otherwise it has all (what I think are) essential spell information and some extra thoughts to the rotation, but if any outlaw experts have used it and have ideas on changes, always happy to learn

[spice spire]

And is probably handsome @quiet oar

[slate crown]

(Yes this means I've "played" outlaw on the beta don't bully me)

[glass hemlock]

fantastic, thanks so much

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/adventurine-snap-hsr-honkai-star-rail-prostate-gif-5240307195319551526

[gusty mirage]

god ur so handsome

[slate crown]

Again???!?

[gusty mirage]

if you don't talk to him he gets bored and walks away lisonna

[balmy condor]

secret easter egg

[balmy condor]

thats so rude

what are we

[gusty mirage]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/666f2cdd68c25ecb40473c05/4x.gif

[balmy condor]

[gusty mirage]

[earnest remnant]

[slate crown]

Oh, it doesn't include a re-roller. Some may consider that essential, I don't particularly but if that's something you are looking for it isn't in there

[spice spire]

Blocked, reported, called 911, ended ur bloodline, and preemptively banned

What an autocorrect

[slate crown]

good thing I didn't see it

[spice spire]

911 auto corrected to the date

It wasn’t anything serious but still

[runic hinge]

Too bad you’re not a mod anymore and it’s all ineffective now

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/supa-hot-fire-end-this-mans-whole-career-diss-rap-battle-gif-15687941

Also I was never a mod

[runic hinge]

Wait are you saying I have a career?

That’s so sweet

[spice spire]

Ily Tony

Your career is Stu’s owner

[runic hinge]

Stu’s roommate*

Ain’t nobody own that man but himself

[spice spire]

AMEN

[hollow fulcrum]

what should we craft using sparks

i have crafted wrists but idk what to craft with my other craft

[balmy condor]

belt boots are good

[hollow fulcrum]

can you double stack blue linen

like can i ahve 2 of those embellishments

on at the same time

[slate crown]

Yes

[hollow fulcrum]

et

bet

do we want crit mastery?

[slate crown]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Mast = Crit = Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs like Witherbark's Branch and Wafting Devotion can often de-value the stat in question. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

[hollow fulcrum]

oh shit ok

[slate crown]

Short answer: sim the options and go with the highest (or, if you want a quick option, honestly just pick the ones you want, they’re all close, or pick at random. It is important to understand simming in general though so it’s a good thing to start poking around with).

[hollow fulcrum]

ah ok ill start once i get better gear

cuz everyting rn is an upgrade

[slate crown]

Yeah, ilvl is the most important thing right now

If you’re low ilvl, just get that ilvl

[hollow fulcrum]

ye ive gotten really unlucky withh bullions but gearing doesnt seem bad

shhould i craft an offhand or just send wrist, boots, belt

[shy pecan]

I wouldn’t craft any weapons. Can get them with bullions

[hollow fulcrum]

is dreamcarver our prefered mainhand

[shy pecan]

The OH is mostly just a stat stick so it’s not likely gonna make a big difference

[hollow fulcrum]

ahhhh ok

[shy pecan]

Any are fine. Dreamcarver is nice for the speed if you use it on a dragonkin

Pick whatever sims best if you’re really wanting to min/max

[hollow fulcrum]

so do i go with crafted belt or ring

or sim

nvm i answered my own question 🤣

[runic hinge]

Crafting stuff seems like a waste of gold with like two weeks left in the season.

Especially because there should be some decent catchup gear with prepatch

[hollow fulcrum]

ah fair

do i just say fuck it and wait till prepatch to play thhis

[shy pecan]

Up to you

[runic hinge]

You could but also having some fun with the bullion gear is cool

[shy pecan]

If you just wanna have fun and do raids, dungeons, end-game content still, go for it

[hexed frost]

Kingsbane - The game

[shadow badger]

kingsbane fun tho

[grim jay]

Im not particularly fond of the cleave build personally

[quiet oar]

I love you too Quake (and George)

[shadow badger]

is the cleave or hybrid build better at ST

[grim jay]

Cleave as that is mostly the St build

[shadow badger]

cool

[rotund oak]

that druid dps

overwhelming

man was afk or something

[hexed frost]

He died 3 times before first boss BH

If not for those wipes it was 600K I swear

Will Kingsbane- The Game be still viable in TWW?

How are the nerfs affecting kingsbane

[royal lantern]

you play it everywhere, the shiv/tea usage stays the same

dmg spread is better

aka not "kb does almost all of your dmg lol"

[balmy condor]

tea kinda isn't the same

but yeh

the gameplay is still there

kingsbane is just less big

[royal lantern]

oh ok

just for energy now?

[balmy condor]

eleem simmed some stuff

and now it's just cast with shiv for the most part

more energy during shiv more sanguine damage more envenoms more good

kingsbane nerf just moved it from the back half of kingsbane

directly onto shiv

[royal lantern]

sooo

just macro with shiv, gotcha

[balmy condor]

well yesn't

it's probably fine though yeah

the logic is basically "make sure you get full energy when you cast it, and shiv has to have a majority of it still remaining"

so like during opener with lust

you would overcap

so you cast one

cause you can't make use of the energy of the second

after that it's basically just macro to shiv though yeh

might be hard to double-tea on deathmarks in general

deathmark gives such a huge amount of energy

I checked sims and it seems to basically just double up during non-deathmarks

but during deathmarks it's avoiding it

[slate crown]

so no more tea on the back half of kingsbane...

Another of the final pillars holding KB timeline up has fallen

[limber lion]

Yeah to be fair the tea KB thingy was never a super massive thing. We worked really hard and tried everything to see any gains from using tea other than "use when low energy"

[royal lantern]

hey hey hey

i still need a WA that shows me when the 2nd shiv during KB is supposed to be used

[slate crown]

That's the final remaining pillar

The only tick

Though with this logic Shiv is still overlapping kingsbane so tea is still on top of kingsbane

Just, the point of it is shiv not the kb

Not time for the timeline to sail off into the west

yet

[limber lion]

Yeah, but the #1 condition is to get the full energy value out of it

[clever sapphire]

man i logged onto my oldest rogue that i didnt really touch for a while, what kind of build was i doing here

what is this supposed to be

[glass hemlock]

Does anything feel better then doing more dps then a shadow priest with 10ilvls on you?

[limber lion]

If you don't get full energy from it, you don't press it.

[limber lion]

A quarter pounder sliding down your esophagus when you've been on the road for 10 hours and haven't had food feels pretty good too.

[glass hemlock]

Haven’t been paying too much attention to TWW, assa looking okay for M+?

Oooh I’m a double quarter pounder with bacon kinda man

Throw some mcchicken sauce on that thing and im good to go

worked at maccas for 11 years

[clever sapphire]

(was in tww channel)

[glass hemlock]

that does not look super positive

Hahahahahaha

[clever sapphire]

assa in general looks fine

[glass hemlock]

What’s that, an average of 5.4/10? Hahahaha

[clever sapphire]

i mean look we dont really have anything new

fatebound being the best new thing should show you how interesting our updates are

[glass hemlock]

Yeah I’m gonna try run outlaw/assa for pve and hpriest for pvp so will see!

Just need to finish leveling another rogue heh

[vague hill]

Am I suppose to use Ashes of the Embersoul together with Deathmark?

[spice surge]

Yes, technically 2 seconds after with kingsbane rather than macroed to the deathmark itself, but it should be aligned with deathmark yes

[vague hill]

Damn, why is this spec so fucking crazy

[clever sapphire]

just macro to dm and call it a day

(or kb if you raid only)

[balmy condor]

(With deathmark is neutral the couple seconds after is old min max from before kb nerf)

[spice surge]

I thought with kb was neutral

[balmy condor]

I just never took it out of sims cause neutral and cba

[balmy condor]

Oh sorry yeh

Wrong macro

Macro it with something

Is the point

5am me no read good

[vague hill]

so macro to kb and im good?

[slate crown]

For the most part yes. Side/edge cases in M+ can lead to desyncs of its use with deathmark if you have misaligned kb/deathmark from travel time or whatever

If you aren’t doing tons of keys or don’t care

Just macro to kb

[limber lion]

I never macro anything personally, but if it helps you focus on other stuff and do better, then go for it

[vague hill]

Thanks for the answers, only going to play assassin for raid anyway

[slate crown]

Ye just do kb then

[vague hill]

cheers mates, appreciate

[balmy condor]

Nerd

[limber lion]

And proud

[gusty mirage]

this mfer probably has foot pedals for his modifier binds too

💀

[grim jay]

He has a little thread on his eyelashes that pushes a modifier button if he closes his eye

[balmy condor]

“I don’t macro my trinket”

[grim jay]

No, he doesnt blink

[gusty mirage]

he types out /use 13

[balmy condor]

Probably also 6’4

[gusty mirage]

[balmy condor]

8 pack abs

[gusty mirage]

the world's largest donger

[balmy condor]

Negative bmi

[grim jay]

Would even put mandingo to shame

[balmy condor]

Drives his Ferrari to his helipad to go to the bathroom

Smh

[gusty mirage]

@limber lion confirm?

[limber lion]

I can neither confirm nor deny these claims.

[limber lion]

Except this one, I did actually consider getting footpedals in the past but didn't

lmao

[balmy condor]

I’m gonna piss in your violin

That shit won’t be a fiddle

[grim jay]

[balmy condor]

It’ll be a diddle

And I’m the diddler

[grim jay]

How would it sound tho

[balmy condor]

Watery

[limber lion]

Would honestly probably increase the value of it

The signature Whispyr sting

[balmy condor]

💀

[gusty mirage]

lmfao

[grim jay]

[gusty mirage]

imagine whispyr comes to finland and just desecrates your 15 billion dollar violin

you return it and it smells like piss and red bull

[grim jay]

Monster

[balmy condor]

I’m gonna restring it using my ass hair

[gusty mirage]

nah whispyr is a giga chad who drinks red bull

he's no Kyle

[balmy condor]

I drink vodka redbulls

But I chug monsters

[limber lion]

The manliest of drinks

[gusty mirage]

okay I stand corrected, he's kind of a kyle

@blazing jewel

obligatory kyle ping

[limber lion]

Are we on a first-name basis here now

[grim jay]

Cevs stuff always reminds me of my days playing Viola back then

[gusty mirage]

Scana is my East Coast eBoyfriend

[limber lion]

@blazing jewel lmao Kyle get bent ☝️

[balmy condor]

I’d show you my monster can graveyard but it would backfire instantly because it’s actually kinda pathetic and I’m a slop

[grim jay]

Wait dont you have Pfand in america

[balmy condor]

Not really no

[gusty mirage]

whispyr out here cosplaying as asmongold with hair

[quiet oar]

Cant you just throwem in the garbage then

[gusty mirage]

wow imagine not recycling in 2024

tiramil wtf

[grim jay]

What kind of lawless place is that

[balmy condor]

Asmongold but hair and not deranged conservative

[gusty mirage]

remember when asmongold said ashes of creation would kill wow?

[quiet oar]

Well we do

we have Pfand

[limber lion]

Honestly the fact that people can throw their cans in the trash bin and it's okay feels so weird to me

[gusty mirage]

remember when asmongold said last epoch would kill both poe and diablo 4?

GOOD OPINIONS

[grim jay]

Funfact you cant not recycle in germany

[gusty mirage]

VERY SMORT

[grim jay]

If you throw it away, someone else will do it for you

[gusty mirage]

d4 has like 190k current players in the last hour

[limber lion]

Same. Unless you fuck the can up

[gusty mirage]

LE topped out at 42k

💀

[balmy condor]

I don’t remember actually because he turned into an alt-right dogwhistler and I forgot he existed for about 3 years

[grim jay]

Oh true ye

[limber lion]

I actually have a friend who will come pick up all of my empty cans and bottles whenever I have a few bags of them lined up

Because I cba taking them to the store

[grim jay]

So based

[gusty mirage]

wtf clean up after yourselves you degenerates

[limber lion]

He gets like 20 euros or whatever and I get someone taking out my trash for me

Easy

[gusty mirage]

didn't you watch that jordan peterson video about making your bed will help you become a millionaire or whatever?

[quiet oar]

Same

[clever sapphire]

wait so is that why im still poor?

[limber lion]

Guess I'm living in the ghettos for my entire life then

[gusty mirage]

(I don't make my bed)

[limber lion]

Gg's

[balmy condor]

Our system here is basically that some stuff you get 5 cents if you bring it directly to the recycling station, but it doesn’t apply to a lot of stuff weirdly

[clever sapphire]

time to make my bed

[gusty mirage]

in fact it's the sole reason

[balmy condor]

Like 100% juice doesn’t count

[quiet oar]

Well thats the same here

[limber lion]

No wonder ya'll just throw it in the bin

[quiet oar]

You dont have pfand on 100% juice

[grim jay]

If im in the City I usually place the empty drinks on top of the garbage cans so someone else can make some money. Its called Nächstenliebe over here

[limber lion]

We get like 40 cents for big soda bottles, 20 cents for small ones

Everything is recyclable

[quiet oar]

you get 8 cents

for glass bottles

[limber lion]

8 cents?

[quiet oar]

and 19 cents for plastic

[limber lion]

19 cents?

[gusty mirage]

I get 10 cents for carbonated beverages only

[limber lion]

There's no 1 or 2 or 3 cent euros

[balmy condor]

Yeh except we don’t bring it to the store, it’s optional, the money isn’t included in the price, and probably 60% of stuff doesn’t apply at least in my area

[gusty mirage]

non-carbonated has no deposit

[limber lion]

How

[quiet oar]

well its a bon

[clever sapphire]

my bed has been made, when are my million euros arriving?

[quiet oar]

you dont get real cash

[gusty mirage]

tomorrow

[quiet oar]

or what do you mean

[grim jay]

I actually dont know how much you get

[gusty mirage]

but you have to make it again tomorrow

[clever sapphire]

FACK

i give up

[gusty mirage]

that's what the youtuber self helpers say

[limber lion]

Oh you don't get cash?

[quiet oar]

You get cash but as a bon

[clever sapphire]

i will just accept that im poor

[quiet oar]

that you can scan

and that reduces your next purchase