assassination

[lament belfry]

Bruh, I bean a sub main for 3 seasons hahaha

oops

[glass hemlock]

I can't seem to get above 250k overall 😦 at 507 ilvl in anything from a 4-7, not higher keys yet

ilvl thing we think?

[glacial stump]

Key lvl thing

stuff dies too quick

[glass hemlock]

yeah i find myself not wanting to waste KB on mobs

and hold for bosses

[glacial stump]

no point really

use the arterial shock build on wowhead

more bleed focussed

[glass hemlock]

yeah i do

[glacial stump]

just keep grinding

[glass hemlock]

i guess just mildly tilting when i get 525 fury warriors/bm hunters doing 400k haha

yeah i am! just so many crests to get hahaha

[bitter trout]

Do you guys macro your PI /w in your Deathmark or KB? I find with it on KB I get stuck in GCD and the PI doesn't last long enough for the last tick of KB

[balmy condor]

Dm

[bitter trout]

Do we care about PI being up for the last tick much?

[balmy condor]

We care about it being at the start way more than the end

Pi is haste, haste is the ramp

Doesn’t do shit to have the ramp up at the end

Need it up at the start

[bitter trout]

makes sense

thanks for the clarification Whispyr

[balmy condor]

Np broseph

[grim jay]

Broseph

[balmy condor]

Brotato chip

Famous director Christopher Brolan

My favorite movie, Star Wars the Broce awakens

Another term for the president, the brommander in chief

[grim jay]

People having an existential crisis about snd and you are brotally vibin with dad jokes

[balmy condor]

Call me an Italian the way I’m slicing and dicing my bromatos

America has had some great presidents as well

Abroham Lincoln

Teddy Brosevelt

But there’s also some less liked personalities from America ya know

Like Bro J Simpson

Tom Brody

Some people don’t like Scarlet Brohanssen’s acting but she’s pretty good I think

Rip the boy Brobe Bryant

[grim jay]

What do you think about Jennifer Brorence

[balmy condor]

Oh how did I not mention Barack Brobama

[grim jay]

Brobama is actually great

[limber lion]

Joe Broden

[grim jay]

We only have Brolaf Scholz

[balmy condor]

I liked her in Red Sparbro

[grim jay]

What about hunger games mockingbro?

I wonder why Brozzard didnt add the other mythic gear to the vendor

[lament belfry]

Are people running rageheart trinket in higher m+ dungeons? on try week?

[true condor]

idk whether its good but i got argue by team8

feels like exhausted in ST

[rotund oak]

u got gapped,it happens

[candid anvil]

Nightstalker 5% dmg boost snapshots Kingsbane, thats why we want to use dance before KB right? Can I use vanish before KB and dance at the end to get the same results?

I feel like dance 6s could be better utilised outside of cooldowns to spread garrotes and vanish 3s just to buff KB, is it wrong?

[spice surge]

Its 10% since you have two points in it, vanish doesnt line up with kingsbane

So if you do dance at other times it will not line up with your kingsbanes

You also dont really need to rupture more things, you generally use your bleeds to make sure you have energy and then you can spend it on spatter damage.

With scent you obviously want 5 ruptures out, but you dont really want much more than that

[candid anvil]

Hmm thats true.. most of the time I see garrotes running out on other targets/seeing targets without them but dont want to switch from KB target

Also mutilating has chance to apply lethal poison for KB boost right? Feels weird to be garroting in KB while in shadow dance

[spice surge]

You shouldnt be mutilating besides to apply spatter in aoe

[glacial stump]

I'm a little confused with pooling. I've ready the !pooling command. But is there some damage benefit of refreshing it in that last 30% window, or are we doing it just to extend the duration when we can rather than having to keep using envenom? Like why does it matter if it drops off.

[spice surge]

Garroting is completely fine, the vast majority of your poison procs come from your auto attacks

[spice surge]

!pandemic

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[spice surge]

You retain the envenom uptime if you do it in the last 30% of the envenom buff

While still proccing the 4p

[candid anvil]

This helps a lot thanks, I kept mutilating as much as I could, I'll change that

[glacial stump]

Maybe I'm just not understanding it, it's not clicking for me. Like is pandemic giving us free uptime or just adding the remainder on? and if so whats the difference between that and just re-pressing it when it drops off?

is it just for ease of maintaining the dots?

[spice surge]

And if you wanted to maximize poison procs you would definitely fok, because kingsbane gets amped for every poison you apply to any target, not just the target its on (which is a bug)

But garroting something that doesnt have garrotes on it is fine

[spice surge]

4p, the tier set

Pandemic adds the remainder on

[glacial stump]

Maybe im just being dumb and not understanding

[candid anvil]

Damn okay, thanks a lot once again 😄

[spice surge]

Well thats the week 1 of ptr tier set, not the one we have in game

[glacial stump]

ohhh

[gusty mirage]

so prior to pandemic being caked into the game, if you had let's say 8s remaining on rupture and you refreshed it early, you'd lose the entire 8s. What pandemic allows you to do is refresh early and minimize the loss of refreshing early

[glacial stump]

Bro thats why I've been getting confused

[gusty mirage]

cause it'll take the 7.2 or whatever the actual number is from the remaining 8s (I don't remember I'm old sorry), and add it onto the new rupture, making refreshing a bit early a DPS gain vs a DPS loss

Envenom does the same thing, so it's caking on a little extra time for you which interacts well with the 4pc

because you get the explosion when you envenom w/ the envenom buff up

[spice surge]

With deathstalker and 7cp in tww the pandemic window for rupture is 10.5 seconds

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-jesus-christ-stu-berks-them-oh-god-oh-no-gif-21089729

[royal lantern]

wgats the Timer after that

48sec?

[spice surge]

45.5

A 7cp rupture is 35, so 35+10.5=45.5

[gusty mirage]

so ideally if you chain it properly, you'll be benefitting from the 4pc every single time you pool/chain envenom properly

[glacial stump]

Yeah i understood the pandemic bit, but i was asking what the dps loss would be from letting it drop off and say, instantly recast it, to refreshing in pandemic window. But the tip was outdated and not the current tier lmao

[royal lantern]

damm, close gues from me

[gusty mirage]

probably not as big as people think

like it's not ideal, but it's probably fractions of a percent if I had to guess

unless it's repeatedly done every single kingsbane window

[royal lantern]

slamming envenom asap and minmaxing tierset was iirc really minor

[gusty mirage]

then it'll add up

honestly letting it drop for a second during a kingsbane window in TWW is probably micro fractions of a percent

cause you'll probably still hit the max KB stacks now that it's capped

[glacial stump]

Yeah i understand now , was doing a little diagram to help but it idm now. But I guess it applies to TWW without current 4pc. Wont really matter much if we do let env drop off

[spice surge]

We did get the 4p back in the form of this

But 10% is a bit weak so were expecting it to be buffed slightly

And its obviously a lot weaker than the tier set, but the intent was never to have the talent be as strong as the tier

[glacial stump]

I'm just gonna stop trying to learn until pre-patch man, if loads of shits changing xD

[nimble zinc]

We’re going up to 7 combo points?

[spice surge]

Its not

There arent a ton of changes

[glacial stump]

I've read we might not be going MA anymore and SD is going

[gusty mirage]

ye but the core of the spec largely remains unchanged

you still wanna pool efficiently to maintain rapid injection, you still want to clip envenoms properly for KB windows (without dance and MA and nightstalker)

it'll be easier for you to drop certain stuff you picked up than trying to learn all of it again while trying to figure out how to use our shitty hero talents on top of it

ya know

[glacial stump]

This spec is hard man

I refuse to give up

[gusty mirage]

ye but once it clicks you'll be like damn why did I find this so hard

[spice surge]

yes

[gusty mirage]

it's just one of those things that when it clicks it feels like the easiest shit in the world

[glacial stump]

True, the same with every spec

[gusty mirage]

but until it clicks it seems very convoluted

[glacial stump]

Sub felt impossible

[gusty mirage]

fucking shadowdust

[ember mural]

[spice surge]

Sub definitely doesnt feel like it easy even after it clicks

Whereas assa certainly does

[gusty mirage]

wdym just get your excel sheet ready

[spice surge]

Most of assa is just holding back pressing buttons you can press but shouldnt

[glacial stump]

Thing is, ST is very easy to understand, but in M+. Feels like a juggling act while balancing on a excercise ball. while blind

[gusty mirage]

oh assa in m+ is cursed as fuck

[spice surge]

Ye m+ is more complicated, no denying that

[gusty mirage]

esp cause like you don't really get a feel for anything until you start doing higher keys

there's like zero way to know if you're doing something correctly or not when shit dies in 10-20s before you have to juggle putting up bleeds for the 2nd or 3rd time

[glacial stump]

Raid I'm not struggling much. Because the rotation feels very set really, not much to juggle. But there so many variables in M+

its getting to grips with what to do when and why to do it

[gusty mirage]

it gets even more layered when shit gets desynced for whatever reason

it's actually giga cursed lmao

[glacial stump]

not to zerocool

mans smoking while just shredding

[gusty mirage]

he also plays like 14 hours a day and has been one tricking assa for a long time

ya know

[glacial stump]

Me with me 9-5 playing 2 hours a day

[gusty mirage]

[glacial stump]

3 days a week

[gusty mirage]

a little harder to get comfortable with something, especially compared to someone who plays your monthly average in 1.5 days

[glacial stump]

True

lmao

Youre cool oxi, we keep you

[gusty mirage]

and like assa is tricky, because the ST rotation is simple af and most people can pick it up within a reasonable amount of time

and then you enter aoe/m+ land

and you're just like what the fuck

[grave osprey]

Assa in m+ is quite possibly my favorite after the 10.2 rework. Maybe im just drawn to the clown show juggling act.

[glacial stump]

Psycho

[gusty mirage]

assa in m+ has always been dear to my heart since bfa

there's something extremely satisfying about spinning all the plates correctly at the same time

@marble hemlock I miss bfa

[grave osprey]

I only started playing assa like 2 weeks ago. Been mostly outlaw, but I think its my new fave ❤️

BFA was when i first started playing WoW! Good times 🥰🥰

[gusty mirage]

SL was cursed as fuck for me, because assa was so bad for so long and sub was oppressively good

so I was black powder spamming

[marble hemlock]

ye legion/early bfa assa in m+

[grave osprey]

Wasnt assa decent in SL?

[spice surge]

Tbh i really like assa in keys right now

[marble hemlock]

definitely not

not in m+ anyway

it was alright in raid

[spice surge]

And bonespike just makes it better for tww, hopefully theres no cringe deathstalker stuff to play around

[marble hemlock]

jokes on you, we'll end up not playing bonespike in m+

[spice surge]

Why would we not

[marble hemlock]

cuz doomblade

[spice surge]

Its the play on singletarget

[grave osprey]

I think the 6sec changes are super good for m+ too, given my current experience with m+ assa

[marble hemlock]

[spice surge]

You definitely play it on aoe

[marble hemlock]

ye in st

but right now its worse in aoe

than in st

according to whispyr

cuz of the 2point cost

but we'll see

[grave osprey]

No worries, deathstalker will compensate

[nimble zinc]

Me too

[gusty mirage]

I think the QoL of the rupture interaction will trump any dps loss tbh

IC -> rupture into full CP is going to be insanely good

even if it sims worse

[marble hemlock]

you saying that word is gonna summon hataro

be careful

[gusty mirage]

I'll ban him

https://tenor.com/view/captain-phillips-look-at-me-im-the-captain-now-gif-5038544

[grave osprey]

I cry when prio m+ add insta dies when i pop CDs. Maybe i need to run 10+ keys so they live long enough

[gusty mirage]

probably need to hit like +13 for that to stop happening as fast

if not higher

[grave osprey]

Cries in ilvl505*

[gusty mirage]

you'll get there

I believe

[grave osprey]

Quite frankly im impatiently waiting for TWW to start already. Unbelievably hyped some might say

[gusty mirage]

lemme borrow some of that excitement

because I have none for TWW

[grave osprey]

Thats probably the best way to approach it LOL

Im relatively still new to wow so im technically around my Wrath of the Litch king phase with it 🤣

[glacial stump]

I started playing DF S2, not played from the start of an Xpac

Hyped is an understatement

[lucid trout]

BFA triple Echoing Blades in Freehold and Reaping, good times.

[grave osprey]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[gusty mirage]

the good old days

triple EB for tol dogor outside

BIG dam

[dusty turret]

Hey guys. I have a question that might be stupid. I've seen on top assa players on the logs that they do not Garotte -> Ambush -> Rupture, but instead Garotte -> Muti-> Rupture, even though they're specced into Subterfuge. Any reason why they would do that?

[royal lantern]

EB should be a glyph, simply because the sound effect when it happend on all the enemys was satisfying

[gusty mirage]

based af

[gusty mirage]

combo point generation, 30% crit from master assassin helps a lot

mutilate is technically 2 attacks so if they both crit you get 4cp

[dusty turret]

Ahh, didn't think of that, hmm, so it that case would it be worth it? I'm assuming damage wise they do lower but helps with the cp

[gusty mirage]

it's probably dps neutral at worst tbh

the damage dif between ambush + mutilate is kind of made up by the CP generation and the poison applications

[dusty turret]

Tyvm for the answer ❤️

[gusty mirage]

glad I could help

[earnest remnant]

just run imp ambush then the cp gen is the same

[dark token]

Roll monk you will be excited for prepatch

[clever sapphire]

ha i see what you did there, because monks roll

[dark token]

Cause I unbound ambush from my stealth bar so I can press dance and only mutilate during dance (DPS gain)

Idc the beginning ambush you don't really care how much cp you get and it's only 1 global diff

Probably ambush is better there

But since you don't ambush anywhere the rest of the fight

I cba keybind

And yes without improved ambush mut is higher cp on average anyway

[nimble zinc]

Is everyone here still gonna play rogue in TWW?

[junior aurora]

itll be levelled but prob not played seriously

[gusty mirage]

I'm rolling my way to spending my $15 a month on something more enjoyable

[glacial stump]

We're all retiring to monk or mage

[shy pecan]

It’s like $16.50 now because of tax

[brazen zodiac]

hewwoo may i introduce you to maplestowy? cxcxcx

[brazen zodiac]

together u me and whisp can stop da black mage.......

[gusty mirage]

its okay you don't need me

[brazen zodiac]

in maybe 6-7 years from now................

[gusty mirage]

im just gonna poe it up

[brazen zodiac]

am will always need da epic oxi cx cx

poe ur heart out : D

[grim jay]

most people will stay anyways

that aside, people that are sold on rolling something else already prolly never were rogues to begin with

[sharp viper]

I've always been a checks barely readable notes on palm Worlack main

[barren yarrow]

So for pooling it said prio on chaining not sanguine so if I let rupture fall off or garrote it’s not the end of the world

?

[spice surge]

You should always have garrote and rupture up 100% of the time

[barren yarrow]

Ok, I’m confused now lol.

[spice surge]

Sanguine just refers to sataying above 50% for sanguine blades

But what you should be doing is having rupture and garrote up always 100% of the time

And if that means you cant chain because you need to refresh rupture, then you chill

And wait until you have ~80% energy and then start chaining again

Not having rupture and garrote up on your target is really really bad because most of your energy comes from those two spells being up

[thin estuary]

what is the command to show WA in here? !wa?

[spice surge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[thin estuary]

ty

[solar tangle]

in AOE Situations like M+ - after the stealth opener with garrot/rupture spread.. do i maintain the garrot dots without empowering too on all targets ?

[spice surge]

No, you generally just get enough bleeds to maintain your energy

Unless you have scent of blood, then you strive for atleast 5 ruptures

[solar tangle]

ty.. and if i see it correctly.. blindside proccs can be ignored in aoe?

maybe on 2 target cleave blindside good again?

nvm i dont have blindside in aoe specc 😄

[limber lion]

You shouldn't be getting blindside procs in AoE because you don't use Mutilate in AoE

Except for the occasional one to trigger Spatter

Or if you're going full ham on a prio target

Which is when you would use Blindside procs normally

[pliant gazelle]

I often find myself with full CP when it's time to shiv during my KB. Should I shiv or spend first ?

[balmy condor]

Shiv

[ivory flower]

Little question min max: rupture is off in 12 sec vendetta just came back, should I vendetta shiv KB etc and reapply rupture during burst window or it's better to refresh rupture before

[hexed frost]

Vendetta ?

[ivory flower]

Deathmark

[hexed frost]

I had PTSD flashbacks sorry

[ivory flower]

Xd sorry in my head it's still vendetta

Second question, how do you use your cd on smolderon mythic to be able to get deathmark and KB up for the moment when we bl ?

[soft shale]

they line up on third intermission

[spice surge]

On cooldown

[soft shale]

do you kb+dm on pull?

or wait to dm

[spice surge]

The third intermission with BL is at ~4:20

[soft shale]

so yea on cd

[ivory flower]

Yeah on pull then I tried to wait to get first orb to use KB but it doesn't line up

OK on cd thanks

[balmy condor]

Just refresh in pandemic like normal

[ivory flower]

Thanks

[thin estuary]

is there a macro or something that casts ambush if it is available and mut otherwise?

[slate crown]

#showtooltip
/cast [stance] Ambush; Mutilate

Something like that.

Note this only does the swap based on Stealth/Subterfuge/Dance, it doesn't handle blindside. Fortunately, it doesn't need to handle blindside, you don't need a macro for it, the game auto-swaps the spell.

You only really need such a macro if you use a bar addon like Elvui or bartender and have stealth bar swapping disabled

[thin estuary]

my game doesnt autoswap..... thats why i am asking

[slate crown]

If you use default bars, just place ambush/mutilate on the same button between bars

[slate crown]

On blindside?

[thin estuary]

yes, it doesnt

[slate crown]

It's hard-coded to

[sharp viper]

can bosses parrying be removed please

[thin estuary]

ill check again and remove ambush from the bar completely

and also disable stealth swap

[slate crown]

Blindside literally changes the spellbook spell, you cannot physically cast mutilate while blindside is active on your character without doing a /cancelaura

[thin estuary]

and outside blindside i can just use that macro?

[slate crown]

Yeah

[thin estuary]

that assumes i have stealth swap enabled?

[slate crown]

The macro works regardless

[spice surge]

They literally delete mutilate from your spell book while blindside is up, youre definitely not casting it

But also, outside of blindside theres currently no reason to cast ambush, and from the looks of it that doesnt seem to be changing in the next expansion either

[thin estuary]

in the opening it says garrote then ambush so basically you are saying i can swap all ambush for mutilate?

[spice surge]

yes

[dark token]

You don't want this anyway

[slate crown]

Yeah, I have moved my ambush to a separate key and just don't push it, and only mutilate

[dark token]

Just mut all the time

Its more dam

[thin estuary]

alright, i didnt know that

[spice surge]

Thats fair, its absolutely dumb that it is like that

[slate crown]

In TWW pushing an ambush specifically becomes relevant if you are deathstalker (so far unless the design changes) but that's about it

[spice surge]

Ambush should be noticeably stronger

[thin estuary]

where can i find the stealth swap disable option?

[slate crown]

Are you using a bar addon?

If you are using default bars, there is not one

[thin estuary]

deafult bars

alright then

[slate crown]

There is not one (deplorably)

I just manually copy every spell slot between stealth and not stealth bars

[thin estuary]

yah, i did the same, thanks alot!

another other macros you guys are using to make your rotation easier? other than the ones listed in wowhead?

[soft shale]

with dominos you can have 1 bar

for both

[balmy condor]

It’s insane that we still haven’t fixed it

This has been a problem since ambush came back

[stable jay]

deathmark doesnt double kingsbane does it?

[slate crown]

The major macros we may have are if we decide to use tricks an auto-tank macro combined with a WA, but tricks is often skipped on anyways and its benefit is kinda not super important

I have @focus macros on my bar for kick/kidney (though I rarely use them (and feel I should use them more I just forgor)).

Many people use a combination Shadow Dance + Kingsbane + Trinket macro, or a Deathmark + DPS potion + Trinket macro.

That's about it

[soft shale]

ambush is in a funny place so many things dont work with it

[balmy condor]

No but it doubles poisons which basically doubles kingsbane

[stable jay]

so I should always use kingsbane and deathmark together (when possible)?

[balmy condor]

Every 2 min like clockwork

[stable jay]

okay ty

[balmy condor]

Np

[thin estuary]

alright, these are the ones inwowhead, thanks!

[weak hearth]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[stable jay]

how can I get my energy and combo points to look somthing like this ?

and health too if possible

[runic hinge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[runic hinge]

One of those groups should help you

[stable jay]

jeez thats alot

[slate crown]

Energy and health pretty easy as a progress bar weakaura
Combo points are a bit trickier to make them look like individual bubbles/bars, but not that tricky if you are fine with a lot of duplicative auras

As tony linked, all of those groups do something like that

[stable jay]

what do I do with it?

like the code on the links

[slate crown]

Do you have the Weakauras addon?

[stable jay]

I think

maybe

idk

nvm no I do not

so download that addon?

[slate crown]

Yeah, that addon is basically ubiquitous

With that, you can take the import codes from those links and import them in.

It's a visualization creation tool, you can create things like were shown in the picture you linked, or you can take the work others have put together and shared on the website in the above links and use that instead.

Generally I think it's good to poke around and understand how to create things for yourself but by no means is it necessary. It is a pretty deep tool but (I think) it's also pretty accessible, at least for the simple stuff

[stable jay]

how do I see what they will look like before I import them? and are there any you can reccomend? I only want a bar healthbar, energy bar, and like the combo points above or bellow my health/energy

[slate crown]

Most authors put preview images / gifs into the pages (though some do not because it can be a pain to keep them updated) so you can see before you import

I will say though, if you only want those things, you should consider trying the "Personal Resource Display" option

which is default, not in the addon

I don't use it, but it does display those elements and that may be exactly what you're looking for instead of using an addon

You can search for it in the search bar of interface options

[stable jay]

where is that

[slate crown]

In the game options menu they added a search bar at the top, you can type into it to search for settings

[slate crown]

The packs above do much more than what you're looking for, though you may still find the information they provide useful. In terms of recommendations, my recommendations is very biased because I created one of the packs in that list, so clearly that's what I would personally recommend, though all of them are good. If you do go down the path of using more than Personal Resource display, you should try them out till you find one you like.

[stable jay]

what does this do/what do I do with it once i turn this on?

[clever sapphire]

ah i love tindral so much

the only thing keeping me sane is a hugging squid

[stable jay]

you made one of them? thats so cool, Ill look into it if i want more than what I have

[slate crown]

It adds this little bar below your character

it hides itself when you are out of combat at max hp, so you may not see it right away while in town

[stable jay]

any way to get it to not do that?

[slate crown]

Don't think so, it's just blizzard Default UI stuff so it may have limitations. To make it show up in the above screenshot I flew into the air and dismounted so I'd take fall damage and have hp missing

I don't see an option to make it always display

[stable jay]

damn okay, tysm though. this helped a lot

[runic hinge]

You’re so helpful

[slate crown]

As I mentioned before, if you are curious and enjoy learning a new creation tool with weakauras, you could recreate such a thing which does not hide itself in the addon. But that's a whole other topic you can explore, the WeakAuras discord can help learn some of the basics if you join there (to not add too much non-Assassination talk to the Assassination channel).

[severe sparrow]

the image you linked is luxthos, and i believe you could just toggle off all the parts with the icons and more rotational stuff

since he breaks it up pretty easily in like little folders inside the weakaura

if you were like, super married to that specific look

[slate crown]

It's worth trying. Luxthos auras though are notoriously customized within the WAs space. Like he overrides some core WA functionality within his auras to make them work so doing something like that may not work as you expect. Could work though

At least he did at one point, don't know if it's still like that

[spice spire]

LE slandering the competition

[slate crown]

[spice spire]

[severe sparrow]

yeah ive accidentally broken a lot of his stuff trying to customize it

i know just enough to be dangerous, and not enough to have any idea how the fuck any of his packs work cuz they look like black magic and theyre all connected to ??? something somewhere

[soft shale]

csutom code can go crazy yea

[severe sparrow]

id learn it better but then id have to actually update my auras when there's updates instead of relying on someone else to

[soft shale]

yea i had a fork for a while of droodfocus

but thankfully someone made dotfocus

been using that one since like 2006

so was hard to just go out

i do miss dr dmg

but it was so hard to maintain

[severe sparrow]

i had a mw ui i was absolutely in love with, and the user quit partway through SL so i had to DIY it from there and make my own version of it

[regal bluff]

What is this Whispyrs Afenar WA?

[limber lion]

Exactly what it says

It's the Afenar weakaura package, but modified to Whispyr's needs

Basically the same thing with some things improved/changed for Assassination

[soft shale]

if you are into programming treat it as a fork

because afenar does not update the rogue weakaura anymore iirc

[quiet forge]

2x BSL for dungeons too or raids only?

[junior aurora]

better in dungeons even

bc uptime is higher

[quiet forge]

nice

[stable jay]

what does this mean? I found a weakaura that kinda seems to fill what I want but when I import it, its says this

[final star]

it means exactly what it says, it contains code that someone has written so make you can trust what you're installing

[slate crown]

Just as KPB said, it's a disclaimer message that is included when importing any import where the creator has implemented custom code rather than default options. Many, many modern imports have custom code. I wouldn't worry too much about it, especially in this day and age, it's very common.

[soft shale]

yea you are not getting a bitcoin miner or keylogger if you dl it from a site like wago.io etc.

it is very unlikely

or a patreon etc

[slate crown]

Yeah to clarify my statement, you shouldn't worry about it if it comes from the weakauras website (wago.io). If some random person shares you a full import string in a discord dm or you find some random pastebin link, I would be cautions there.

[regal bluff]

Thank you! So, do you use this Afenar WA or have your own programmed?

[soft shale]

i dont use auras for rotation things im an old man i use an addon called dotfocus

for most thingies i need

i do use LE ones for things like tiersets etc for sub

but for assa i just have normal trackers

[stable jay]

yeah its from wago

[tired yacht]

does anyone else have issues with "[LE] Rogue - Full Pack (DF Season 4)" after updating WeakAuras today? i have potions/health stones above my character bar but it's bugging out with questions mark as of today

[limber lion]

@slate crown

[slate crown]

Just about to take off for some errands but I can take a look later. I see it on my end as well so something must be different with the item trigger logic with the latest update. Thanks for letting me know.

The health potion aura logic are things I'm not particularly happy with and intend to re-do for my TWW update, but I may have to look at it sooner

[tired yacht]

While I'm at it, I also noticed that the Shadow Techniques aura is throwing Lua errors. No clue if that's related or not but anyways, thank you for looking into it, appreciate your work a lot, great WA Pack ❤️

[rugged flint]

Does CT "snapshot" the number of targets it is applied to for the extra dmg?
so if theres 4 targets but some of them will die within a couple seconds, should I still use CT?

[balmy condor]

yes it does snapshot its target count

but if they're dying soon, don't bother

it's still a dot and still needs to tick

[rugged flint]

its more for a situation where theres a mob with much higher hp than the other adds like a boss or the destroyers in rlp, so CT will be able to tick

or for example the wind mini boss before the frog in HOI where he summons small adds every few seconds

[balmy condor]

it's not a single target increase if that's the question

either you care about the aoe, in which case you need the aoe targets to survive

or you don't cast it

[regal bluff]

thanks for the reply

[tall jay]

Dumb question: say I have X cp going into a pack of 5 mobs, say it’s a AA, do I still open with Garrote x2 or can I full send my CT then start my garrote rup stuff

Asking for a friend

🙂

[balmy condor]

you would open with a rupture and then 2 garrotes

[tall jay]

Even if we had full cp?

Sweet

[balmy condor]

rupture uses the cp

:P

[tall jay]

Well true

So no matter what Rup before ct

[balmy condor]

you don't CT until you have energy income

[tall jay]

True that

[indigo epoch]

primal tsunami on HOI, how the heck do i avoid taking a melee hit

if tank doesnt get back in time, any way to avoid?

paly tank, no charge, keeps wiping group

[severe sparrow]

is the tank dying or what

[slate crown]

Both of the issue should be fixed now and updated on the Wago page.

Neither solution are ideal, they're mostly just make them work for now without errors, I'm doing a refresh on a bunch of them for TWW.

Thanks again for letting me know.

[dense aurora]

is there an easy link to the sin plater profile for spatter

that i used to use here that i loved

[shy pecan]

They taunt the boss on knockback

[regal bluff]

What do you mean by energy income? I find I run out of energy quite fast. What I do is to Rupture some random mobs before dying to get it back. When there’s like 2 mobs left with almost to zero HP

[balmy condor]

you reach saturation at 35 energy per second, which with normal gear is around 5 bleeds, you don't want to CT without having at least 2-3 bleeds up so you can sustain some sanguine blades uptime

if you run out of energy you're not bleeding enough

[indigo epoch]

No but when he gets knocked back it melees next closest player

[regal bluff]

5 bleeds is 5 different applied poisons? Or does it count per target? like, 2 ruptures, 3 poisons in different mobs?

[soft shale]

per bleed and target needs to be poisoned

[balmy condor]

what

bleeds give energy when they hit poisoned targets

how many poisons you have is irrelevant

[nimble zinc]

Q: Mythic Igira - does caustic splatter always hit all 6 spears?

should i stand middle to hit them all or can i stand on left or right?

i keep dying in the middle because spears overlap ever so slightly

[runic hinge]

Are you pressing feint?

[balmy condor]

caustic spatter radiates from the target you're hitting

so if your raid stacks them

then yes

[faint vessel]

if you dont have spear you can also err near the front of the boss, right?

[balmy condor]

you just stand in one of the stack piles

[nimble zinc]

ya we're stacking 2 mid, 2 left, 2 right

like the WA says

[balmy condor]

yeh

[faint vessel]

I dont think theres a frontal at the same time as spear

[balmy condor]

so pick one of those 3

[nimble zinc]

i always KB the boss and splatter onto spears

[balmy condor]

and gg

[balmy condor]

there's not really a point in risking standing on tanks for that though

spears wont ever kill

theres no other damage

[faint vessel]

yeah thats fair

[nimble zinc]

spears are only killing me if they overlap and i get hit by 4 at once

[balmy condor]

yeh dont stand there

just move to the edge of left/right

[soft shale]

remember step is instant

so keep yourself alive

[balmy condor]

what

why are we stepping

this aint a science

just dont stand in the 2 small overlap spots and thats it

[gilded oasis]

I made a milkshake does that make my dps better? @balmy condor

[faint vessel]

@balmy condor have a scenario where I won a mythic piece in raid but have the same piece in vault with leech. I assume its worth taking the leech and forgoing sockets but wasnt sure how valuable we actually view leech

(not tier piece)

[slate crown]

Only if u share with the class

[gilded oasis]

its in the mail, it might be soup when it gets to you though

https://tenor.com/view/good-soup-good-soup-meme-meme-adam-driver-gif-22924425

[slate crown]

It'll be soup when I'm done with it anyways, you just got the process started sooner

[balmy condor]

I mean this isn't really a question I can answer I'm afraid, the perceived value of esoteric things like leech changes from person to person. Some people who love leech will point to something like smolderon as an example of how good leech is, or how it could possibly raise your blue silk uptime. People who don't like leech might point to how much healing is actually straight overheal and not useful in any way, or how small leech actually is in practice when you do happen to need a heal. You might fall on either end of the spectrum, or somewhere in the middle based on how you experience the game. In my opinion, avoidance is the best tertiary in practical situations, speed is a close second and also the only one that increases damage, and leech is near useless overall. In a hypothetical patch where you can't add sockets, I would personally never take a tertiary over a socket in any situation. But you can add sockets to everything so like if you really want the leech, go for it, and socket it later, but I ain't got an answer for you other than "dunno do what makes you happy man"

/yap

[faint vessel]

makes sense, thanks for the time

[balmy condor]

[faint vessel]

if it was avoidance/speed Id just go for them

but leech seems...meh?

[gilded oasis]

healing is a healer job

[balmy condor]

leech can be kinda okay in large quantities

[faint vessel]

hah thats the kicker, so I got a myth helm with leech in the same raid

[balmy condor]

like I had leech enchanted on my cloak in season 3, and alongside leeching poison I had like 8%?

it was doing like 12k hps in a fight

but it basically never matters tbh

[faint vessel]

yeah its never going to make or break anything

[balmy condor]

this was a 9 min mythic fyrakk in season 3

leech is a good 60% of my total hps there

but like

lmao

[faint vessel]

60% of shit is shit

[balmy condor]

yeh

and that's with the 5% from the talent

and another 3% from other sources

so having leech on 1 more piece of gear would be like adding another 1/8th of the 60% of the 1.15% of my raids healing

like we're reaching

VERY small numbers at this point

maybe I do 1.16% healing instead of 1.15%

if I get lucky with a rounding error I might even get to 1.17%

avoidance would probably be better to begin with though

because not taking the damage in the first place

is always better

[faint vessel]

yeah id much rather have that, wouldnt hesitate

or speed ofc

[balmy condor]

yeh I wasn't really a believer in speed

for a very long time

but it does have some niche uses where you can react to a swirly a little slower and still be okay and stuff

so I'm warming up to it

I don't think any of the 3 really are impactful in any major way

but yeh

is what it is

[severe sparrow]

how could you not like SONIC SPEED

[haughty flicker]

speed is the only stat that matters in actual content

like racing down the smolderon bridge

or farming molten core

[brave gyro]

I miss things like warriors having a "speed set" in Legion

small stuff that adds to the RPG aspect

[balmy condor]

In Maplestory, my drop% gear is more expensive than my regular gear

Well probably not true anymore actually I spent a lot of money last event

But yeah gear sets are sick

[slate crown]

T16 v Echoing nightmare v GR speeds v GR push sets ayeyeyey

[brave gyro]

sounds reasonable. High-end Magic Find gear in POE can also get crazy expensive

[slate crown]

Oh there was a new d3 season like 3 months ago lol.

"new"

[rotund oak]

Grind is real but game is fun

[livid acorn]

Quick question for Catacylsm. Do you have 2 instant poisons or 2 deadlys?

[shy pecan]

#classic-discussion would probably have that answer for anything Cata/Classic

[misty holly]

You're looking at it the wrong way. Pull up assassination healing logs and see how much leech the top parsers have. That will show its true value.

[quiet oar]

If my Healers could read, they would be really mad

[quiet oar]

Instant Main-Hand, Deadly off-hand

But ye classic discussion

[balmy condor]

True and real

[balmy condor]

Guess which is my damage all stars and which is my healing all stars

[royal lantern]

based and leeching poison + crimsonvial pilled

[sharp viper]

trick question, those are from different players

[rotund oak]

crimson vial should crit,we need the heal parses

😅

[royal lantern]

we need racial sims for hps

draenei/vulpera/zandalari, who wins

[earnest remnant]

left is healing

[balmy condor]

right is healing

[earnest remnant]

FAK

[balmy condor]

[rotund oak]

absolutely

ild buy pizza for the final goat vs zandalari

[kind forge]

REGENERATIN'

[primal jolt]

hello pumpers

[royal lantern]

could not be me

[primal jolt]

i have fallen to the depts of hell, i am playing a survival hunter now, im pretty sure i swapped trough every class so far

maybe its not blizzard

its me

i am the one whos never satisfied

NAHHH its blizzard fault

im tripping

[azure basalt]

[quiet oar]

You can pump me

wait

[gusty mirage]

No, it’s FoK

[primal jolt]

my countries power plant fucking died

idk when we'll have electricity

like my last 60% of battery is the only thing keeping me from dooming rogue

[balmy condor]

your countries one power plant?

[primal jolt]

no but this is the main one

and its keeping a lot of towns up

[primal jolt]

oh nvm

the entire balkans are without electricity

[hollow dirge]

The fuck you on about? 😂 croatia has 0 issues

[primal jolt]

nay

check your sources bro

[hollow dirge]

😂

[primal jolt]

bro i am talking to like 10 croats in my discord server

kek

its a balkan server

[hollow dirge]

I’m croat too, and everything in Zagreb is ok. Did not hear one word from anyone about any power outage

[primal jolt]

because it happened like

2 minutes ago

[grim jay]

America isnt only having 1?

[rotund oak]

not true

[primal jolt]

its back

phew

it was apparently entire Montenegro half croatia and entire bosnia

[rotund oak]

it never went down on balkans though

are u buying electricity from Ukraine or something

[primal jolt]

from china

that's why it broke

[rotund oak]

[primal jolt]

because bosnia is a neighbour country to china

[rotund oak]

its true,my native language is chinese

[rotund oak]

https://www.trade.gov/country-commercial-guides/bosnia-and-herzegovina-energy

[primal jolt]

THE BEST

[rotund oak]

here u go,u buy from bulgaria and romania

aka Russia

[primal jolt]

gg

gonna go kill myself

[rotund oak]

no dont

why kill urself

lul

[primal jolt]

does this mean im basically half russian

SUKA BLYAT

rush B

[grim jay]

Russia owns half of you

[primal jolt]

FUCK NO

dont ever say that

GRRR

[rotund oak]

no but Russia sales to 45% of European Union currently

it used to be more than 80%

[primal jolt]

we are like gangsters fr, we closed our smallest airport for russians when russia war kicked out

that's what's loosing them the war

bosnia single handedly

[rotund oak]

u actually are 20% independant in energy production

thats cool

[primal jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/bosnian-mode-bosnian-bosnia-gif-15907171

[rotund oak]

this means u buy 80% of ur needs as a country

[primal jolt]

bro Bosnia buys most of our food

and all of the farmers are quitting

because the markets dont want the bosnian crops

there's nothing wrong with it

they can just get the outside stuff for like a few cents cheaper

even though its shit

[rotund oak]

thats about to change coz Ukraine war makes a radical shift to balkan produciton

[primal jolt]

i mean it already did, now you can see off brand drinks on our shelves

[rotund oak]

yup

[primal jolt]

they're really good like istg

i even found a coke better than actual come

coke

no joke

[rotund oak]

For Greece its mostly German and U.S now

lots of french stuff as well

[primal jolt]

we've actually been getting some us stuff as well

we even have prime 💀

but no one wants to buy a 10 euro drink, because our usual stuff is around 0.50€ max 1.25€

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-german-flag-germany-trikot-gif-16895731513883457432

[rotund oak]

😉

thats like 30 years now

jsut a bit more obvious now

[grim jay]

I mean if it continues as is, there wont be many german products in the future

[rotund oak]

dont worry,once we dry out the lake that devastated our biggest agro-landscape we are going back on prduction

we actually had a lake created from the recent medicane

im not even joking

100.000 sheeps drown

[grim jay]

Government is actively trying to ruin production in germany

Farmers aswell

[rotund oak]

i think E.U is moving towards a unification

like U.S

[grim jay]

Nah never

[rotund oak]

inevitable

[grim jay]

Way too different still

Especially the newer countries

[rotund oak]

very true but survival will drive us there

[grim jay]

Germany could be pretty self sufficient on many fronts

But taxes

[rotund oak]

Germany doesnt have her own workers so no

[grim jay]

Could have

[gusty mirage]

@royal lantern

Explain this gif

Now

[grim jay]

German workers once were renowned

[rotund oak]

yeah thats true,by far the most advanced nation in Europe

even until today

[gusty mirage]

Idk Seli’s a German worker and he’s renowned in my heart

Checkmate stinky ravenholdt rogue

@marble hemlock :3

Fuu’s austrian but that’s pretty much German and he’s renowned in my heart too

[grim jay]

Its just taxes on everything driving away companies, which means less opportunities. The issue with people having more money by not working at all than working with an average job aside

[rotund oak]

''aufwachen''

[gusty mirage]

Bless you

[rotund oak]

wake up in german iirc

[grim jay]

How did the saying go

Exceptions prove the rule

[gusty mirage]

Idk man I’m American, something something freedom, something something no step on snek

[royal lantern]

idk what its supposed to be lol

[grim jay]

Think it was some flatearther meme

[gusty mirage]

Fair, I love you Mr German man

[marble hemlock]

tbf i dont work.

[gusty mirage]

Yes you do? You work for icy veins and raider io

And you’re German

[marble hemlock]

ehhh

[gusty mirage]

[marble hemlock]

but ye ig

[gusty mirage]

They pay you to do things

[marble hemlock]

technically thats work

[gusty mirage]

You work

Just accept my love god damnit

[marble hemlock]

im bad at working then

[gusty mirage]

You’re my favorite German worker ever

[marble hemlock]

i accept your love, just not the fact that i should be called a "worker". a worker to me is someone doing 30-40hrs a week of largely physical labor.

[grim jay]

I dont think its a coincidence the best assassins here are (partly atleast) germans

[marble hemlock]

i provide a service, idk if i would consider myself a "worker"

[gusty mirage]

Wait am I not a worker because I don’t work a largely physical labor job?

I’m covered under worker’s compensation insurance and laws

[rotund oak]

katzenvater services

[gusty mirage]

Bless you again

You’re really sneezy this morning

[grim jay]

I mean a handyman provides a service aswell

[rotund oak]

hahahahahah

yaya

[grim jay]

Id say as long as you do something to get money, you are working

[gusty mirage]

Davyn speed running becoming my favorite German

@vestal wren #1 Austrian tho

Ngl I’m convinced Austria is Germany’s Canada and no one can change my mind

[grim jay]

It didnt take long before you were my favorite... Angel? Since something so heavenly georgeous cant be born on earth

[gusty mirage]

Man smoother than butter

[marble hemlock]

fair

[gusty mirage]

SHEEESH

[grim jay]

I mean german is the language of love as we all know, so we gotta have a way with words

[marble hemlock]

its just my first thought when i think of a "worker", i think of people reparing roads, linemen, construction etc, my mind doesnt go to office workers or other service-industry employees first

[grim jay]

@gusty mirage whispyr is the same, want me to show proof?

He got the genes

[marble hemlock]

might also be because of how it translates into german. worker = arbeiter, and most physical labors are some form of Arbeiter that specifies their work

so we typically differentiate between "Angestellte" which is largely mental work (employees), vs Arbeiter, which is mostly physical labor (workers)

[gusty mirage]

I'm a worker

[vestal wren]

i am your first choice (how many austrians do you know?)

[gusty mirage]

at least 3

[royal lantern]

my raid has 1

[strange python]

I am also one

[gusty mirage]

red armin

the goat

[balmy condor]

[lament belfry]

Why do most people playing m+ go outlaw over assa still? Is the pad better?

[strange python]

Oxi my goat

[gusty mirage]

tankier, not reliant on having a shadowpriest and augmentation evoker

because they enjoy it probably

[lament belfry]

Is the tankiness just because of the preference for vers?

[grim jay]

I still have it saved

[gusty mirage]

that + they always have defensives thanks to restless blades

outlaw can have close to 100% uptime on feint if it wants to

[grim jay]

The smoothspyr

[gusty mirage]

and evasion is reduced by it as well with that talent (float like a butterfly?), which works well with elusiveness which is mandatory on higher keys

[lament belfry]

and in higher keys are people using neltharions call to suffering for the proc on to help aoe

[grim jay]

@gusty mirage embrace his cute side

[gusty mirage]

I don't trust that mfer

[grim jay]

Why

[gusty mirage]

cause he's stinky

[shy pecan]

[grim jay]

[rotund oak]

smooth af

[gusty mirage]

[marble hemlock]

nice photoshop but whispyr is purple

[grim jay]

The screenshot is just like whispyr

Old

[gusty mirage]

bro what

whispyr's like 25

[grim jay]

Thats what he likes you to think

[gusty mirage]

I've counted the rings on his butthole

its 25

[grim jay]

Based on his behaviour, I currently, well since quite some time already actually, have the suspicion that hes a vampire

[grim jay]

[gusty mirage]

[grim jay]

So

Are buttholes basically like trees or rather inverted treestumps

[bitter trout]

[rotund oak]

Lets take a moment all ppl

cherish it

Ruby here

[kind forge]

Both

[spice spire]

[primal jolt]

hello butthole counters

and rogue pumpers

[thorn fjord]

Im a butthole pumper

[hallow token]

/walks in

/walks right back out

[thin estuary]

I have couple of questions, in my kingsbane window in add pulls, i can always ignore vanish and keep vanish for bosses (on tyrannical) or big pulls in fort, correct?

second question, lets assume i just did my kingsbane window and adds are not dead yet, and no deathmark, what do i do? just fan x2 + envenom?

[shy pecan]

Yeah, can use Vanish for needing to restealth for IC if you can't for whatever reason. Don't need to use it for the min/maxing of DM/KB windows

And once you're past your KB window, it's just maintenance like you said. Keep refresh dots that are dropping soon, then just fanning and envenoming

[thin estuary]

do i use crimson at 4+ targets and only just refersh it, and the rest is fanning and envenom?

[royal lantern]

CT has no instant dmg

only dot

why would you spam it

[thin estuary]

fair

this is for 7+ targets, does every rupture on diff target or same target?

[woeful meteor]

different

[nimble zinc]

I personally only fan to get full combo points for CT or rupture in cleave. otherwise you need to press mutilate in order to spread caustic splatter

[grave osprey]

Yeah, sliding a random mutilate in AoE sometimes feels weird. Takes some getting used to

[nimble zinc]

trust the process

[shy pecan]

Call it prio targeting

[nimble zinc]

if you have an addon like hero rotation or hekili, it'll tell you to press fan of knives in aoe, but you have to ignore that and just mutilate because caustic splatter goes brr during KB window

and you typically want your KB on the toughest mob / highest HP so that it lives the whole duration of KB

if they're like less than 2mil health or whatever, dont even bother with KB, just keep bleeds up on them and sudden demise will finish em off

[hexed frost]

Completes the opener
Adds already in demise window

MANY SUCH CASES!!

https://tenor.com/view/countdown-t-donald-trump-speech-gif-7610848

[grim jay]

hu

you cant "spread" caustic

and you still fok if caustic is up on your target

[nimble zinc]

uh, maybe i'm confused as to how caustic works?

is caustic a dot?

also can someone review my log last night from mythic igira? i start out really strong like 700-800k for the first 30-60 sec but then really trail off when the fight drags on, this was just over 7min

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/80039819#boss=2709

like I was assigned to the first soak, and every time I ran out to do it my dps dropped like 200k

[grim jay]

caustic is a debuff

that can only be applied to 1 target

[nimble zinc]

caustic spatter?

[grim jay]

yes

[nimble zinc]

huh??

if there's 5 targets, liek a boss + 4 adds. i target the boss with KB / mutilate / envenom combo and the caustic splatter hits the other 4 targets.

[grim jay]

debuff limited to 1 target that cleaves part of your poison damage off of that target

[shy pecan]

Yeah

[grim jay]

spreading is applying to multiple targets

[shy pecan]

But you can hit fan into envenom. Not just for rupture and CT as you mentioned early

[grim jay]

yeah you only muti to refresh the debuff

[nimble zinc]

you mean i dont have to repeatedly hit mutilate x2 envenom combo to keep splatter up?

[shy pecan]

Nope

[nimble zinc]

oh well shit

[gilded oasis]

just mut once every uhh 9 seconds

[nimble zinc]

huh okay, thanks guys

i didnt realize i was doing it wrong this whole time lmfao

[shy pecan]

[gilded oasis]

nice name

[shy pecan]

tyty

[thin estuary]

so what should i do after my KB window?

[gilded oasis]

talk shit in party chat probably

[slate crown]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[slate crown]

And this, unironically

If you are resetting for a chain and are waiting to regen

I've literally tabbed out to discord to type stuff

without losing any dps

[gilded oasis]

but yeah mainly setting up env chains, maintin dots, wait for next KB window

[balmy condor]

Throwback to when a certain someone was updating his rotation helper for 10.2 and submitted a bug report to simc cause he couldn’t figure out why the sim was making him stop pressing buttons for 8 seconds

[gilded oasis]

wonder who

[nimble zinc]

whaa

[balmy condor]

Citing “always be casting”

Because it must be better

Was pretty cute

[slate crown]

incredible

[balmy condor]

I liked it

[gilded oasis]

do you think shock therapy would get abc out of my head sometimes I cant help it

[balmy condor]

Same

1 night with the therian girl in the dog cage won’t hurt

[shy pecan]

[slate crown]

why didn't u pool there? I saw on your stream at 42:12.493 that you decided to cast envenom near low energy instead of pooling? Is it because you want to envenom when only your character's left foot is on the ground because envenom helps rebalance you?

[balmy condor]

How’d you get a hold of random DMs I’ve received

[gilded oasis]

it was from him dawg all along

[slate crown]

[balmy condor]

Her ecksoose you

[gilded oasis]

we're all hims on the internet

[shy pecan]

Hmmm…

[balmy condor]

Kinda true

[gilded oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-funny-animals-answer-the-gif-27574162

we're all dogs here

[shy pecan]

Just because @spice spire calls you dog every other time he talks...

[gilded oasis]

I just wanted to use the hello yes this is dog

[shy pecan]

okok

[slate crown]

That's really not true, some of us are cats

[spice spire]

It’s not exclusive to her Edward

[shy pecan]

Ok, listen...

[balmy condor]

And some of us are the grungler

[spice spire]

Listening big dog

[spice spire]

Real

[gilded oasis]

I used to hang out with a bunch of Russians and man. They called everyone and everything cat all the time

[shy pecan]

You smell. That's all I wanted to say.

[slate crown]

Toaster? Cat

[shy pecan]

Thanks for listening to my talk

[gilded oasis]

Ed Talk

[spice spire]

Okay

[shy pecan]

If I ever do a TED talk, I probably should end with "Again, I'm Ed, and thanks for listening to my Ed Talk" huh?

[gilded oasis]

I got some reusable hot hands and they dont stay hot very long im kinda sad

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-family-spray-squirt-annoyed-irritated-gif-11864636400230753109

[shy pecan]

Hey, it fits

[thin estuary]

oh so let me get this straight you have your DM/KB window --> pooling-->KB window-->pooling-->DM/KB window? thats basically the cadance? and put that on repeat?

is there a WA that for example popup or highlight when a certain dot is in pandemic?

[gilded oasis]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[gilded oasis]

A lot of these packs have pandemic glows on their icons for dots. Whispyrs Plater also has pandemic on it if you prefer it on the nameplate instead and use Plater

[thin estuary]

alright, thanks alot!

[shy pecan]

Yep

[slate crown]

As does Cev's

[pseudo hamlet]

lol

just did +13 AV and shammy told me to do more dmg to crystals, I was saving CDs(KB+SD) and was just doing splatter damage to them, tried to explain it to him that it done overall the same to them, but he didn't listen

Are people that mad or what lol

[balmy condor]

I mean, what does the crystal damage look like

should probably be bleeding some of the ones out of reach

[pseudo hamlet]

His:

Mine:

[balmy condor]

ye dunno

classic m+ pug experience I guess

[pseudo hamlet]

weirdos I guess first time encountered that type of the person above >12M+ key

[raven night]

try telling a ret that u funnel dmg with shitter ads on bosses

out of like 4 i told i can blade flurry for free cps only 1 actually said ok cool, the others just laughed lul

[calm tendon]

is cowl worth it for broodkeepers barrier? its amazing if i see at ret how much it heal/absorbs..

[balmy condor]

no

[ancient tangle]

I know it's not assa related but what is stopping us from stacking fire pools on smog ?

I mean all the pools

[ancient tangle]

I mean if I'm already in a pool when the new one comes I don't get one shot or something else ?

[balmy condor]

it doesn't target puddles into the old ones

it'll put them on the edge

[raw dock]

Guys, which buff should I take from Cruel Dreamcarver?

[slate crown]

!dagger Any you want, speed (dragon) is the most popular (and is probably the best choice) but none of them impact damage directly

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[raw dock]

cool

[glass hemlock]

can we still get the incadescent essence enchant this late in the season? or is it even worth getting so close to TWW?

[drifting cloud]

worth is subjective, but yeah its still there

[balmy condor]

free damage is kinda good

[glass hemlock]

so i just LFR amir raid, get quest, then kill all the random things that wowhead says to do?

boom bam done?

[balmy condor]

should just be get quest, go into amirdrassil, kill bosses, done

[drifting cloud]

dont think lfr drops enough items to get it done in 1 reset

[balmy condor]

yeh im not sure either

I know they buffed it

[glass hemlock]

aight. yeah but you get the quest from the first boss in amirdrassil no?

[dusky citrus]

Is assassination any good next xpac? Can’t decide what melee dps to main lol

[balmy condor]

something like that

[balmy condor]

what does "good" mean in this context

[dusky citrus]

Meta

Lol

[balmy condor]

ask again in 3 months

[dusky citrus]

Touché

[glass hemlock]

this is probably personal preference but: do you guys like bigwigs or DBM more?

i haven't used wigs before

[shy pecan]

I prefer BW, haven't had issue with it. Timers always seem to be right on and what not, at least for me

[glass hemlock]

fair enough, might be worth having a look

also, sucks gotta be in a raid group to enter raids hahaha. need to turn in quest

inside raid

[balmy condor]

I used to be a DBM guy but bigwigs def felt easier

also helps that my raid swapped to bigwigs cause of some weakaura private aura shit in aberrus

[onyx rampart]

Re head enchant: It took me 1½ clear on my new rogue to get the quest done recently, lfr one week then a few heroic bosses the next reset

[glass hemlock]

imagine

i already had the quest done

LOL

[lament belfry]

I've seen people like Kush use neltharions call to suffering in higher keys

Is that to do better overall dmg and have a bit of vers? as opposed to like grief torch, if you are getting resets from torch in high keys you aren't going to time it right

[nimble zinc]

Who gives a F About Meta? Play what you enjoy

[nimble zinc]

I hard swapped to big wigs when I tanked Abberus in season 2, solely because it let me customize the tank swap on Rashok. Life changing.

[grave osprey]

is it worth holding CDs in Neltharus chain boss for DPS phase?

[slate crown]

Personally I use DBM, but I also use the timeline WA to override the bar visuals. I also customize nothing and I don't have a mythic raid group who needs me on the same addon as them. I'm mostly just using it because I always have, not for any critical reason

[grave osprey]

if i upgrade my main hand dag to 528, shouldnt i get a discount for my offhand since they're the same type of wep? Its requiring crests for my offhand too.

[balmy condor]

no

[grave osprey]

ugh

[balmy condor]

discount for dual wield only happens after upgrading both

[grave osprey]

kk ty 🙂

[regal bluff]

Had anyone checked that Archon website for Talents?

It’s different than most Raid talents I’ve seen, specially mythic

And is completely different

[balmy condor]

raid talents look normal to me

imp ambush is a bit worse than tight spender

but the rest is standard

m+ stuff looks pretty standard as well

can you point out the thing that you think is weird?

[regal bluff]

Holy shit, I’m embarrassed now 😳

Maybe it was from couple days ago

Just a sec

M+

I used this build when farming 2-4+

[balmy condor]

yeah that's the single target heavy build