assassination

[balmy condor]

Cause that would be cringe

[glass hemlock]

Didn’t realise Garroteing same target in AoE will apply to mobs without Garrote if they are in range

[balmy condor]

Only from carnage though

[ashen oriole]

on AA first pull my fps drop really hard to the point where its really like 1 fps and hard not to die. Plater is already on highest update interval. Is there anything else I can do besides replacing CPU? (intel i9 11900k)

[balmy condor]

So you technically lose a cast just spamming

[ashen oriole]

only in stealth + 10s after

oh garrote

nvm

[grim jay]

There should be many things wrong as that CPU is more than enough for wow

[glass hemlock]

Yeah only in Carnage

[balmy condor]

Repair I guess? Unless you’re running like 95 addons your cpu should be getting like 125 fps on that pull

[glacial stump]

Bruh ive been clicking un-garroted targets

[balmy condor]

That’s fine

[glass hemlock]

Me too homie hahahaha

[balmy condor]

Technically optimal for that third garrote

Like it’s your target + 2

[glass hemlock]

AoE is actually my weakest point, my brain gets tired

[ashen oriole]

im running atrocity UI and a few other addons

[glacial stump]

I've found sin aoe to be harder than sub, but ST easier

[ashen oriole]

Repair the game you mean?

[glass hemlock]

Might be some graphical settings?

[balmy condor]

Try turning of atrocity

[glass hemlock]

Ahh I only started rogue about 3 weeks ago

[ashen oriole]

they are already on lowest kinda tbh

[balmy condor]

Sin aoe is one of the hardest in the game tbh

[glass hemlock]

Yeah there’s a few settings as well with rendering and sharpness detail… and fps capping

Or your RAM is poo poo

[glacial stump]

What you play before?

[glass hemlock]

I’m loving it.
I played holy priest, frost mage and DH in PvP for s3, started s4 pve with resto druid and now I’m an assa addict

[glacial stump]

https://tenor.com/view/juggling-this-is-happening-balancing-tricks-exhibition-gif-17885484

[glass hemlock]

I think I started about 3 months before s3 ended

[ashen oriole]

so essentially turning off elvui ?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[glass hemlock]

Hahaha yes I wanted to see what I liked/played whatever fit into my 3s team

[grim jay]

Idk your CPU isnt much different from mine and I dont have those issues

[glass hemlock]

Some weak aura packs and Whispyrs YouTube video on opener rotation and a few hours on dummies and plenty of low keys feels good

Just need ilvl and pushing keys

[ashen oriole]

and youre using elvui?

[grim jay]

Yes

I probably have most stuff on that eats resources

[ashen oriole]

weird

[grim jay]

G sync sometimes causes lags in WoW

If you have that activated

[ashen oriole]

my system really dislikes many nameplates

[grim jay]

Yeah many had that on tindral

I weirdly didnt

But had stutters at sarkareth sometimes

In p2

[glass hemlock]

Did you try telling it not to lag

[clever sapphire]

I stopped having lags as soon as i turned my monitor off

[glass hemlock]

Cap your fps at 10 then you’ll get used to it

😂

[ashen oriole]

so you tell me to shut that thing down?

[grim jay]

I disabled it on application specific settings for wow

[ashen oriole]

gotcha

[grim jay]

After that your best bet might be adjusting graphic settings

[glass hemlock]

Quasi video 👍🏻

Haha

[ashen oriole]

ive done that and followed quazi's guide essentially lowering everything but particle stuff

[glass hemlock]

Ah welp

[grim jay]

Ah alright

[glass hemlock]

And you’re sure your ram is working properly

[ashen oriole]

i havent done memtest lately

[glass hemlock]

Could be as simple as that

My buddy was going to buy a brand new $4000 computer, realised his 2nd RAM stick wasn’t working

Boom back to no lag haha

[ashen oriole]

let me do that rn

if i dont report back soon my pc is grilled

[glass hemlock]

Hahahahaha

You got it

[rotund oak]

[glass hemlock]

If you have bleeds/poisons up and you use meld/stealth, can you reapply the improved bleeds and you get the damage bonus?

Also, macro stealth into meld?

[rotund oak]

u can but dont,better keep separate,it backfires

also u need to press stealth once u meld

[glass hemlock]

I feel like I fuckup the restealth all the time

[rotund oak]

u cant apply emp bleeds from meld

u also cant move

its stationary stance

[glass hemlock]

Yeah so it’s meld into stealth and then hit

[rotund oak]

so u meld=>stealth=>do your thing

yup

[glass hemlock]

Yeah I think I’m just hitting keys too fast

Or meld, move slightly and then try and stealth

[rotund oak]

the macro backfires

the meld intostealth

[glass hemlock]

Yeah I can imagine haha

[rotund oak]

im not even using it in arena anymore

[glass hemlock]

My dance macro acts up sometimes soon cause I get too excited

Hahahahaha

Dance, ashes, kingsbane and sometimes KB doesn’t go off

[balmy condor]

That’s cause kb is still on the gcd

And you’re trying to cast it before it’s possible to cast

[glass hemlock]

Yeah sometimes it works fine

I should probably just get used to pushing all the buttons properly

[balmy condor]

You are

That’s a macro everyone uses

You just can’t cast more than 1 gcd per second

[glass hemlock]

Yeah I get that hmm

Does anyone have the macro they can copy paste it for me?

[grim jay]

Its not the macro

[balmy condor]

It’s how the game works

If you press the macro before the gcd is up

It can’t cast the kingsbane

It’s just not possible

[grim jay]

Its you pressing the macro too quickly after your previous ability if I understand your issue right

Yeah what Whispyr said

Fuck typing on the phone

[rotund oak]

irrelevant but watching some guides on jobs and classes on the forums,what is the most noob friendly and strong enough to farm with?

(maplestory)

[balmy condor]

I’ll dm, you asked a simple question with a complicated answer

[rotund oak]

oh lol

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/typing-fast-jim-carrey-gif-5315333

[glass hemlock]

Yeah yeah I understand that part, just want to also make sure my macro is done correctly !

[ashen oriole]

no ram issues

was kinda hoping for it though

[glacial stump]

@balmy condor where can i find your plater profile?

[balmy condor]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[glacial stump]

Ty

[balmy condor]

Np

[sudden kelp]

I initially gave up on sin because of the AOE rotation. I just couldn't see how I would be able to keep track of everything. But I'm going to have another crack at it now after recently discovering your plater profile - thank you!

[balmy condor]

Hope it helps

Don’t be afraid to ask questions

I do bite but not hard

[glacial stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st6UJOP5Ok4&t=1375s

[glass hemlock]

My favourite part of sin is having bigger numbers then higher ilvl people cause sin is an addiction

[clever sapphire]

best feeling as sin is beating mages/priests on dps

feckin fotm abusers

but beating SPs is kinda easy nowadays

they all suck for some reason

[glass hemlock]

Class is hard for fotm I guess hahaha

[vernal tree]

True but man you still not getting invited in pugs^^

[clever sapphire]

i mean i do get invited, not sure what pugs you guys are doing

[vernal tree]

even if you timed that key like 2 weeks ago

[glass hemlock]

Only time I think priest or mage is better is when I stand in some dumb shit I wouldn’t have if I was a caster hahahaha

[clever sapphire]

i cant play ranged specs for more than a few keys

i get bored because of the lack of things happening

[glass hemlock]

Oh fair, I haven’t run a ranged dps in pve before

[clever sapphire]

thats why arcane mage i still kinda enjoy

because in aoe i have to get close and personal

unless i get the biggest procs of my life

[glass hemlock]

Hahahahaha I’ve never played arcane

Just a frost boy in PvP last season

[clever sapphire]

and i dont play pvp

because im too dumb for it

and im alright with that

[glass hemlock]

I really want to try my assa in PvP at some point

[clever sapphire]

watching pikaboo makes me wanna play pvp because he makes it seem so easy

[glass hemlock]

But I’ve healed bad rogues before and lord I don’t wanna be that guy

[clever sapphire]

then i realise that the guy probably knows every ability in the game and its cooldown and whatnot

[glass hemlock]

Hahaha watching pika on rogue is gross

You watch his review of venrukis rogue game? I just love it when pika rattles off a 14 button combo and lists out what the other person will do and shit hahaha

[clever sapphire]

i mean just him cooking up a new build, saying out the rotation (like 20 buttons), perfectly executing it in pvp and oneshotting someone

i go in

i do opener

pala presses bop, evoker dispells my bleeds, druid oneshots me

i leave pvp

[glass hemlock]

Hahahahahaha yeah very fair

I’d need to get conq gear before going in though, fuck doing it in honour greens haha

I mean even the “solo shuffle every class to 2.4k” is insane

[clever sapphire]

im not sure if i enjoy the solo shuffle 30 minute queue times, where i can afk. Or the m+ 15 minute queue times, where i have to actively search for a group

[glass hemlock]

Both suck

Thankfully I’ve got 3 irl mates who are the ones that convinced me to play

Between the 4 of us we have 2 healers, 3 tanks and 4 dps hahahaha

[dark token]

they need soloq m+

fr

[rotund oak]

im into 2.3 ques rn and its 6-8min max

[glass hemlock]

I nearly hit 2k on my hpriest but I’m too into rogue and m+ now 😦

[clever sapphire]

it probably wouldnt work, because of all the buffs/dispells/bl/brez and shit you need for keys currently

[rotund oak]

for m+ u just que ur own keys,if u wanna end fast and not wait for bozos form ur own group

its a W

[grim jay]

Sounds like stuff the average Player doesnt have to worry about

And the average Player will be the person that would use that queue

Obviously while lfg still exists

[clever sapphire]

well looking at the fact that afflicted and co comes at 4+(?), you need a dispell for that

[potent raven]

are you ready to play double assa koldera

[dark token]

you can make a comp while restricting these you know

like everyone soloqs

[clever sapphire]

and since average players suck you also need a brez

[dark token]

and blizz only selects groups with bl/brez

[clever sapphire]

only gonna be online late tonight, not even sure if i will game at all

[potent raven]

ayo finally got my pants

[clever sapphire]

but im in homeoffice tomorrow, so i have time all day

[grim jay]

Thats something you need to face if you queue

[potent raven]

i have raid i think

[grim jay]

We often did keys with only engi brezz even

[potent raven]

these boots are p good

with avoidance

[grim jay]

But they are redesigning affixes

[boreal cloud]

Redesigning them to be worse

[clever sapphire]

i also have raid tomorrow, i think we are doing skip to get to fyrakk asap

but people suck ass so we will probably jsut wipe the whole night to tindral

[potent raven]

we too

we are doing the exact same thing

kek

need to farm mount

[clever sapphire]

ye i dunno, i was confused if i should talk about this as if its a tww thing or how it would be currently

[clever sapphire]

i would be so happy if i sucked, they would just bench me since i have the mount already

but im one of the top dps so i will have to suffer the whole night

[vernal tree]

True and prob the best thing to do. its just really hard sometimes to get your own key to 14/15 with pugs man. At least thats my experience

[clever sapphire]

also im a feather guy in tindral

fack me

[potent raven]

yeah me too i also never die on tindral and do feathers

so i have to do it

[clever sapphire]

being a good player instead of a fotm shitter has its hindrances

[rotund oak]

its always that way,its a struggle,for everyone

[clever sapphire]

or whatever the word is supposed to be

[potent raven]

im only good on atdh becuz of experience

at least we killed sark and i survived tho ig..

doing feathers with the fyrakk mount is dope it makes me want to play

[clever sapphire]

doing feathers and dying mid air because tank forgets to soak mushroom or we dispell too soon, makes me not want to play

[potent raven]

that happened to me quite a few times

i also had my feather stolen a couple of times, somehow

was funny

and my bomb stolen

that makes me want to ask to not be doing them lmao

i want to try assa today on smolderon

[vernal tree]

what do you usually invite to your keys?

[clever sapphire]

do that

i've been doing that since our first kill

im also assa on tindral

and fyrakk

i never spec sub

[potent raven]

i think frozen said that assa is just as good on smold as sub

when he was comparing logs

[clever sapphire]

i dunno about that, im pretty sure sub would beat assa straight up because sub gets to send cooldowns every intermission

[potent raven]

i forgot do you first take all the orbs then do your rota or

well i forgot i dont get pi tho

[clever sapphire]

you get orbs, you send cooldowns

also ashes on pull

and not in intermission

so you have ashes for the 4 min bl

where its also execute

unless your group sucks at doing dmg

[hexed frost]

Looks like you ain't running AP and Zoldyck which are yyyyyyyyyuuuggggggeee damage amps for bleedmaxxing/demisemaxxing.

You need to make sure empowered garottes, scent stacks, CT and AP windows are up as much as possible

I get around 6.0-8.5% on demise with fat juicy 3 million HP auto executes.

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/yuge-huge-donald-trump-gif-7357158

[hexed frost]

Ngl I hate being forced to run CT

[potent raven]

time to play overwatch and not do keys for the rest of the week

[clever sapphire]

isnt that the guy that told eleem that he doesnt play rogue?

[balmy condor]

[rotund oak]

if i que my rogue SP and Hunter or Mage.ProtPally or Bears(although i kinda find bears cringe but stamp roar is cool) healers i like Hpallies,Rdroods but Prevokers and Priests always on the menu

[balmy condor]

What happened to bleedmaxxing

[potent raven]

tbh ct is p cool i always run it even on tyra idc

[balmy condor]

Ct pumps

It’s a good button

And thrown precision is bananas too

Two really strong talents

[rotund oak]

CT is very big,idk what might feel bad

[pseudo hamlet]

CT is always in mine TOP3 damage done by ability in M+

[rotund oak]

mine its not top3 but it does alot of dmg

[balmy condor]

It’s like top 4-5 pretty much always ye

[clever sapphire]

ye i also press it in ST because its im maximizing my bleed dmg

[hexed frost]

Button bloat

[clever sapphire]

(jk im not that mental to press it in ST)

[balmy condor]

I got holes in my keybinds after 10.2 man

[pseudo hamlet]

Nelth +13

[hexed frost]

Where demisemaxxing?

[pseudo hamlet]

But that may be because I am always using CT during the SD(ofc when I have envenom up for KB)

[pseudo hamlet]

Just 2,9%

[rotund oak]

he's not into SD most likely

[rotund oak]

thats low

[clever sapphire]

the higher the key, the lower SD gonna be

[hexed frost]

[rotund oak]

its 13 man,not 20

[hexed frost]

That's why I stick to low keys

[pseudo hamlet]

I think that's the case. In BRH +12 it's much higher:

[hexed frost]

Based and bleedpilled

[rotund oak]

yup thats more reasonable

but ur ct is legit pumping

big dam

[pseudo hamlet]

I like using it on big pulls during the SD window

[rotund oak]

u solid 👌

[hexed frost]

Remember when IC and Exsanguate were active cooldowns?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[hexed frost]

Literal piano spec

[next dust]

how much will rank 1 m+ title be estimated boys?

[pseudo hamlet]

I think there was a graph on raider.io, not sure if it's still there though

[next dust]

[next dust]

ty

[royal lantern]

triggering CD cus you fly trought a beam

[clever sapphire]

i think i triggered CD more often on tindral because i had to soak 2 balls than because of that

[wide ibex]

Hey.. for this week with TY.. u guys suggest CT with arterial shock or the poison bomb biuld ?

For keys 8 to 12?

[clever sapphire]

shock

always shock for keys under 13-14

(personal opinion)

[wide ibex]

Fair point..

[fallen arch]

Wait everybody plays alliance now?

[spice surge]

The alliance vs horde thing doesnt matter, it doesnt take that into account for title anymore

But id imagine most pushers play dwarf if they can

[clever sapphire]

wait top 1% as horde is actually free

wut da heeeell

[lucid trout]

this was for US region

[spice surge]

Top 1% horde doesnt give you anything. Title is only awarded for top 1% overall

[lucid trout]

This is EU

[clever sapphire]

of course eu players are better

no 1% title for me

thats too many keys

[next dust]

i am climbing the ranks

maybe it can be done

[clever sapphire]

you are 1% already

[next dust]

ye i mean title

[clever sapphire]

ah

welp 300 more to go

glgl

[next dust]

ty ty

a lot of score to get

[clever sapphire]

bh and aa your lowest keys

how

how is uld and no your highest

worst keys

[next dust]

xddd

[clever sapphire]

whats wrong with you

[next dust]

god knows how i timed the 16 uldaman

today

you need to be a psychologist for your teammates as well

so they keep playing

also melee life

2 extra affixes

[clever sapphire]

well the question is

are you doing it as assa or outlaw

[next dust]

assa

[clever sapphire]

ah so no acro either

ye thats fun

[next dust]

butsniffer on mobs

[clever sapphire]

the only place where i really dislike this is bh spinny boys

i can barely stand outside the spin range

and its annoying

[next dust]

with i had better gear as well

i got 2 bullions

do i send anything?

[clever sapphire]

i mean you can go for echo trinket if you feel like trying that out instead of grieftorch

but you dont really have anything else besides mog i guess

sark cloak is shit in keys

[next dust]

i guess trinket can help

cause of vvers as well

[clever sapphire]

i think some people also tried icon or the S2 stat thingy

[next dust]

also what i need to work on

are talent pages

i am just using 1 for all dungeons

which is bad i am pretty sure

but idk where to start

using this rn

[clever sapphire]

no IW

sinner

oh wait you are running acro

[next dust]

yeah haha

[clever sapphire]

is that a kush build

[next dust]

that's an idk where i found it build

tbh

dont remember

[clever sapphire]

well no iron wire seems like a sin

[next dust]

meh

[clever sapphire]

its big in keys

other than that, i dont see a reason for any different build

maybe cleave build in ruby

[gusty mirage]

That’s fine tbh

[next dust]

like i jus timed a 15 ho without using recipe for example for 1st boss

[gusty mirage]

Legit all of them pretty much do the same dam, it’s like super small differences

Just really depends on where you want your damage

[next dust]

but its not needed i guess yeah

[clever sapphire]

the only thing i would change still is iron wire

like sure its a "dmg" loss

but having mobs together faster is a dps gain imo

so is it really a loss

[gusty mirage]

Ye I’d drop ttk for it

Imo

[next dust]

can u cook it up for me

i am bad with pages

[clever sapphire]

remove twist the knife, skill into iron wire

done

[next dust]

oh xd

yeah i guess

its better

since i am with pugs only

[next dust]

thanks!

[gusty mirage]

Sick visual brought to you by my iPhone

[clever sapphire]

the "circle" is not closed

[next dust]

i never bothered to actually do anything with talents myself

[normal mist]

Bragging about having an iphone

[next dust]

i always copied from streamers 😛

[gusty mirage]

[next dust]

well needed flex

[normal mist]

[gusty mirage]

I’m smol brained I need an iPhone

Devices designed for 5 year olds

[normal mist]

I never used an iphone

I currently have an 2yo oppo

[gusty mirage]

I tried using an android once and couldn’t get to the settings

I never felt so stupid in my life

[next dust]

i had always used android and tried iphone 11 as my first iphone when it was released

i think i will stick to iphone

pretty good

[gusty mirage]

Ye it’s just easier/less brain power required. And I don’t use my phone for the cool shit android lets you do

I just play slay the spire, shitpost on discord, scroll TikTok, and text

[normal mist]

Wait android let's you do cool shit?!

[gusty mirage]

Ye android has a ton of features that you can’t get on iPhone

Like it can do really cool shit

[next dust]

ye same pretty much but with sudoku xD

[normal mist]

I only use discord, reddit and twitter/ig

And sometimes the phonecalls system

[gusty mirage]

Omg twins

Sudoku is the best

[normal mist]

That's how one know he's in the #assassination channel

Just love and besties everywhere

[clever sapphire]

also offtopic

[next dust]

sheeeeesh

yes sir

[clever sapphire]

i love how both assa channels are pretty much off topic

[next dust]

bro i am so bad with technology i dont even have apps grouped

xddd

everytime someone sees my phone they laugh

if u legit open 50% of iphone apps

they will welcome you with the first message

since i never touched them

[normal mist]

LOL

[next dust]

how quick do we go back to valdrakken with this one

[clever sapphire]

i call tornado boss

[next dust]

why cant 3.7k players apply

xD

[clever sapphire]

well they are all 200 score over you

so cant complain

[next dust]

reached 20% vvers with this

[clever sapphire]

surely you wont die now

[next dust]

i am willing to die to apply even 1 rupture

greedy

[steady owl]

why is that grieftorch does so less dmg for me as assa than outlaw? Is it having way less vers?

[gusty mirage]

between the eyes works on it as well for outlaw

but ye its mostly vers

[next dust]

@gusty mirage would u recommend neltharus call or grieftorch on assa this week?

[gusty mirage]

grief every week tbh

I fucking hate the nelt trinket

cause the proc is giga rng and if procs outside of your cds you're just sad

[clever sapphire]

BUT A SQUID IS HUGGING YOU

HOW CAN YOU NOT WANT THAT

[gusty mirage]

I'll hug you

[clever sapphire]

aight deal

[next dust]

HAHA

i guess i will use it on fort weeks

[clever sapphire]

grieftorch is especially big in keys like av/brh

where there are specific things you need burst dmg on

[gusty mirage]

grief is even bigger when you factor in that most people you play with might actually be potatoes with a headset

so when they inevitably die

you get a reset

[steady owl]

i thought they changed our stats affecting trinket dmg in sl? When people would use the weapons in nw with mage combust or rogue and the master assassin leggo?

[clever sapphire]

playing shaman with grieftorch is 5head

[spice surge]

90% of gamblers give up before they proc during kingsbane

[clever sapphire]

you can just reset torch for yourself

[gusty mirage]

it was mostly stats from talents/legendaries (in the case of master assassin leggo w/ spears in nectroic wake)

[spice surge]

Your vers and crit affects it, they just made stuff like master assassin and mage combust only affect their own spells

[gusty mirage]

vers just straight scales all the damage you do

[spice surge]

So like master assassin for assa doesnt give you 30% crit

[next dust]

guess who almost bricked a key here, with a shadowstep of the gods

[spice surge]

It gives you 30% crit on all of your spells and auto attacks

[steady owl]

ok i see thx

[clever sapphire]

well if you just did more dmg it would have been free

[gusty mirage]

wtf that's toxic

[next dust]

no its the truth

he is right

[gusty mirage]

[clever sapphire]

ah surely he knows that im jokin

waut

[next dust]

i jus tell my teammates

just play better

[gusty mirage]

TRUE

if they played better you wouldn't have died

[next dust]

i mean its the truth

they are just allergic to it

[clever sapphire]

14 deaths

thats a lot of grieftorch resets

[next dust]

ye 2 full wipes

idk how we timed

we full wiped on 2nd boss

and once again i dont remembe where

[clever sapphire]

2nd boss

[next dust]

ah ye going into 4th boss

[clever sapphire]

as in totem boss

[next dust]

yes

[clever sapphire]

or the 3 guys

[next dust]

yes

1 wipe there

and 1 going into the fire boss

with trash

that sonicd us to death

the bats

[gusty mirage]

why is there a caster in the trash for the totem boss

like who decided that was fun

[next dust]

@gusty mirage AND RANGED STILL WONT KICK IT

[clever sapphire]

the guy who kept sanguine/bolstering/raging/bursting as affixes

[gusty mirage]

ranged don't kick anything

they're the main character, everyone else is just there tbh

[next dust]

bro they are npcs

[gusty mirage]

they don't do mechanics either lmao

[next dust]

no cap

[clever sapphire]

ranged doesnt even know about half the mechanics

put them in melee for 5 seconds

they will die to any ability

[gusty mirage]

my favorite moment in shadowlands

during sepulcher one of our boomkins who was very critical of melee dying to mechanics

played his DK alt on a reclear

and died to the worm boss

on CD

lmfao

[clever sapphire]

i knew that you were going there

[gusty mirage]

man ate blue swirlies like he was eating candy

[clever sapphire]

one of our healers swapped to monk heal from disc and told us off how we were getting hit by the swirlies

she got hit by all the swirlies on monk

[next dust]

skolex?

[gusty mirage]

ye skolex

[clever sapphire]

i had to name call her out so often to move her ass to the group stack

[gusty mirage]

i forgot the name

[next dust]

ranged arent real people

[gusty mirage]

then he shelfed the DK for the rest of SL

[next dust]

i sometimes think they are npcs added by blizzard

[gusty mirage]

[next dust]

i mean he mains boomie

wasnt it to be expected>?

[clever sapphire]

but ranged is hard, you dont get it

melee has it so easy

[gusty mirage]

bro I had a boomkin tell me halondrus was easy

[clever sapphire]

you can do dmg whilst moving

[gusty mirage]

have you seen boomkin pov on halondrus

their only mechanic is picking up and dropping the bomb

like

????????

they could outrange all the beams

[clever sapphire]

i will never forget that ranged/melee pov video

with the final fantasy music or whatever it was

[gusty mirage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHTsaJRai24

[clever sapphire]

ye that one

[gusty mirage]

even better

https://tenor.com/view/stable-ronaldo-pay-phone-hahahaha-lol-gif-20871661

[next dust]

HAHAHAH

[gusty mirage]

tbh echo of neltharion was our redemption

that was legit the most payphone boss for melee ever

meanwhile ranged were freaking out because they actually had to do mechanics for the first time in their life

oh every so often I have to go run into a corner?

that's it?

meanwhile ranged "WHAT NUMBER ARE YOU????"

"I WAS 3"

[next dust]

my sp during keys

[clever sapphire]

are we talking echo or tindral

[gusty mirage]

nelth, tindral was terrible for everyone

what a magical boss tindral was

regardless of role it was awful

[clever sapphire]

im going back there tomorrow

dont remind me

i cant even be benched because im THE feather guy

[gusty mirage]

just get to p3 and the boss dies

[clever sapphire]

thats what im hoping for

[gusty mirage]

I just want to know who designed that boss and felt like 2000 guilds could kill it

[clever sapphire]

even if we suck at mechanics, our guild kinda does pretty good dmg

[gusty mirage]

because as someone who has pulled prenerf tindral

what in the actual fuck

[clever sapphire]

we got to tindral

were wiping first 30 seconds

and the officers called "ye we are not raiding this week, they will nerf this boss next week 100%, this is unplayable"

it got nerfed next week

and everything changed

[gusty mirage]

I wanted more feathers

I was hoping by Christmas we would've gotten 16 feathers

I remember that first "nerf"

"Now drops 6 feathers"

WOW

THANKS BLIZZARD

THIS IS SO MUCH EASIER NOW

[clever sapphire]

are there 6 or 8 currently? i could still do with a few more

[maiden rover]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-gif-4492308

@spice spire

[gusty mirage]

I think it's still 6

and you'd think with 6 the "you took my feather" shit would've gone away

but nope

people still fought over feathers

like dog just find one and fly

why is this difficult

[clever sapphire]

dude its not even that, there were times where 1 was in a mushroom, left and right got soaked so i had to run into the lava part

AND THE FECKIN RANGES SOAKED THOSE

[gusty mirage]

there's 6 feathers, 4 fliers, wdym MY feather

[clever sapphire]

because "haha funny i got a feather"

[gusty mirage]

brother I grabbed the feather in the fire

every single time

because no one else would take it

now it's 3 fliers too so ig it's 3 extras

but one of our DHs would grab the one on the opposite side of the fire from me

and our other rogue and other DH would fight that someone took their feather

so I just started grabbing the one in the fire

like idk heal my character

or tell the two others to stop being stupid

[clever sapphire]

https://clips.twitch.tv/AttractiveAnimatedFennelPRChase-ziIoZDbp9CaIObIJ

This was my most annoying moment (we wiped 10 seconds later) (not sure if i can post my own clips here but whatever)

[spice spire]

Damn. I remember

That was on my top listened to because of that boss last year damn

[gusty mirage]

posting your clips if its relevant to the conversation is not only okay, it's encouraged

[clever sapphire]

phew wasnt sure

[gusty mirage]

there's a clip floating around of me going gromnak on a guildie during broodkeeper prog

https://imgur.com/CAphQbA

"I didn't felrush on you guys"

[spice spire]

Yeah raw dogging it with no relevant context very bad. Relevant to context is very good

[gusty mirage]

like oh okay dude

[spice spire]

Bro not this again

[gusty mirage]

BRO

I'm still mad about it 2 years later

fuck you

that's why my new guild is "Stay Mad"

cause I be staying mad

ya feel me

[clever sapphire]

tbh the fire didnt even hurt that much

i also went in there quite a few times

then i got assigned to middle feather

and i hated that, because there was no clear spot for the one thats "middle"

atleast not with our shitty movement and ranged positions

so i always had to yolo find one that the other 2 didnt take

[gusty mirage]

you know the best part about finally killing tindral?

was knowing you were spend 1 week fixing weakauras on fyrakk

because private auras are cool!

thank god they're keeping them in TWW!

[nimble zinc]

Dude that’s nuts 🥜

[clever sapphire]

i was hoping we wouldnt need that because we got to fyrakk so late

but ye

we still had the WA boss for a week

fun times

and actually every raidnight

[gusty mirage]

yeah its super cool

[clever sapphire]

"but i didnt get assigned"

[gusty mirage]

oh for the cages in p2

LMFAO

[clever sapphire]

ye i felt good there

[gusty mirage]

somehow

it always broke for somebody

[clever sapphire]

we still get people that press the cage macro with purple

and then everything breaks

[gusty mirage]

[clever sapphire]

good thing they built a safe mechanism

where you get out after 12 sec

i think thats how it was on our kill

i just looked at them for 12 sec

[gusty mirage]

another boss where turning down spell density

just made the giant purple circle impossible to see

[clever sapphire]

i think i only turned things down for smolderon

[gusty mirage]

well for some reason

fyrakk decided he wanted to burn my computer with the tree

so I had awful performance on fyrakk

[clever sapphire]

i just get a 1 second freeze on pull

every time

[gusty mirage]

it was probably the stupid ass weakauras we need to combat the private aura

in that phase that gives your 3-4s to organize all 20 members to soak the orbs

because they insisted on using a private aura for that

[clever sapphire]

wdym you cant just yolo it, its such an easy mechanic

why do you need a wa for that

[gusty mirage]

true

[clever sapphire]

[gusty mirage]

just soak 5head

[clever sapphire]

blizzard probably

[gusty mirage]

oh don't forget if you soak the wrong orb

you just die!

[clever sapphire]

i mean the worst is still p3 for me, because it all relied on ranges

and our hunter liked standing in the frontal

[gusty mirage]

lmfao

let me tell you a story

of our trial hunter

who lasted a whole 3 raid nights

he was so upset about blazes/baits

that he was informing everyone else that they had to move

to accomodate him

so all 8 blazes had to move so he could stand still

cause you know BM hunter can't do damage and move

it's impossible

[clever sapphire]

that guy is just a gigachad

sigma male performance

[gusty mirage]

yeah he was so gigachad he went and raided with Blas0n and Ghost Gaming

he also had a sports analyst take after every pull

interrupted our raid leader one night, one of our healers messages me "you hearing this?"

I was like bro I had this guy muted since day 1

then they removed him from the guild and raid during our break lmfao

[clever sapphire]

that sounds like fun times

[gusty mirage]

like I get mentioning your thoughts once, but I don't need your ESPN Analysis after every pull

@spice spire remembers me ranting about world of warcraft's kirk herbstreit

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/eminem-espn-eminemespn-gif-5614778

[spice spire]

Self serving strat analysis is pog

Love it

[grim jay]

Toxic

[gusty mirage]

not really

he was a bm hunter

what possible input could he have for me

I'm not going to sit there listening to how hard it is for you to do damage as a BM hunter lmao

[grim jay]

Mine sometimes tells me what and how to feint in m+

[gusty mirage]

because the blazes aren't in exact positions

[grim jay]

Before I tell him to shut his trap

[gusty mirage]

OH I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE

[clever sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/you-wouldnt-get-it-joker-smoking-gif-15952801

[gusty mirage]

CAUSE HUNTERS HAVE TRAPS

[grim jay]

Thats why you arent a bm hunter

He didnt understand it

[clever sapphire]

fun fact that you mention traps

[gusty mirage]

if pushing space bar for fun is part of your rotation

I don't trust your opinion on anything

[clever sapphire]

our bm hunter is considering not playing mm in TWW because he would have to use steel trap

[grim jay]

Id like to use a trap so oxi can never get away from me

[clever sapphire]

because its too many buttons

[grim jay]

[royal lantern]

we stopped using the macro after 2 days tbh

and just had people say "i break red /i break blue" in voice

[royal lantern]

based

steel trap is cringe af

[clever sapphire]

we tried that, people forgot how colors work when playing the game and talking during it

so we just went back to macro

the guys with 300+ pulls on fyrakk manage it

its just trials and people who came later that feck it up

[gusty mirage]

you think you're better than us cause you guys have ridges in your brains?

[royal lantern]

lol

no

people where just to stupid for the macro

[grim jay]

Being too stupid for the easier solution.

Thats so humane

[royal lantern]

welcome to World of Warcraft

smartest players in the world btw

gotta make simple stuff overly complicated for no fucking reason

[rotund oak]

true and real

[clever sapphire]

well isnt talking the true simple solution? assuming you have 20 people who are smart enough to only talk when needed

[gusty mirage]

the simplest solution would be they stop fucking using private auras

[royal lantern]

brother

we had people saying after 4 wipes "oh sorry, didnt notice i was muted"

[gusty mirage]

like fuck right off with that shit man

it's annoying

we're still gonna make weakauras to circumvent it, you're just making it more annoying for no reason

[royal lantern]

because for some reason everyone needs to play in full mute instead of just using Push2Talk

[gusty mirage]

yo based

p2t GANG

[clever sapphire]

you could also just make bosses that arent impossible without weakauras

[gusty mirage]

RISE UP

[gusty mirage]

then liquid and echo would get bored

and heaven forbid 2 guilds get a little bored

[clever sapphire]

because i give a feck about those guys

[royal lantern]

"we want to go away from fights where 1 player doing 1 small mistake will instantly wipe the entire raid"

"also, here is tindral and fyrakk"

certified blizzard moment

[clever sapphire]

fyrakk intermission with orb soaks. What if, hear me out, the first orb you soak is your color BAM

[grim jay]

Can just use a decent mic and know that there is a settings button

[royal lantern]

alt as talk button

thats it

[clever sapphire]

smolderon?

[royal lantern]

doing it for years

no problems

[grim jay]

Alt is my ability modifier

[royal lantern]

thumb is resting on spacebar anyway

[royal lantern]

yeha, shift for me

[woeful meteor]

spam mute unmute for the sound when your bored

[clever sapphire]

shift and ctrl

because i only use numbers up to 4 with modifiers

[grim jay]

Same

But Ctrl is an abomination

[clever sapphire]

i dunno

i press it with my pinky

just like shift

so it works

[grim jay]

Even shift with pinky sucks

[royal lantern]

imagine having a pinky

[grim jay]

Ctrl is just doubling down

On the suckiness

[clever sapphire]

i dunno why, pinky stronk, pinky do good work

pinky only weak when climbing colorful rocks in a gym

[grim jay]

Also alt with 1-4 as numbers go is enough as a modifier

[clever sapphire]

i dont use alt

because it makes me want to alt+f4

[grim jay]

Shift for that matter

Would be enough aswell

Dunno why some people wanna play with 2 modifiers

[clever sapphire]

ctrl is for potions

[royal lantern]

ah yes, me on day1 of WoW, trying make keybinds

[clever sapphire]

i dont even remember if i have anything on ctrl+2 and ctrl+4

ah wait i have something on 2

no idea about 4

[clever sapphire]

this is so real

i think i made my keybinds and logged of

[royal lantern]

no, i made shity keybinds

and 1 point was

alt+f2

alt+f3

alt+f.......huh?

[clever sapphire]

[grim jay]

I started out with 1-6 Q E R X and 2 extra mousebuttons

Expanded from there

[royal lantern]

tbf, i was like 12 or smth back then, not a smart kid

still not smart

but older

[clever sapphire]

i think when i was someone got me to play some wow private server because i didnt have the money to buy it. And i quit after a few days because i didnt understand the game at all

there was so much going on

(was either mop or pre mop or i dunno tbf)

like i have legit no idea what expansion it was

they told me to go out of orgrimmar and do quests and kill mobs

maybe it was even classic

xD

then i got back in SL and it was a bit easier to understand

so i somewhat understood what i made keybinds for

(my keybinds are still fecked)

i have no cheap shot bind, kidney is on shift+T, gouge is nonexistent

[ashen oriole]

is anyone playing around with mdt sim?

[royal lantern]

mdt sim?

[ashen oriole]

allows you to sim routes from mdt

mythic dungeon tools

[clever sapphire]

you can sim routes? waaaaaat

[ashen oriole]

yep

[clever sapphire]

and it tells you how your dps should look like or what

[ashen oriole]

yes

https://wago.io/Yya4XBbl-

[clever sapphire]

sounds cooked

what if my shadowpriest does tank dmg

[ashen oriole]

its good for spriests

you can even have bloodlust for certain pulls

[clever sapphire]

that actually sounds nice, not sure what i would use it for tho

[ashen oriole]

its nice, but what is weird is that it even suggests aoebuild for tyrannical if I didnt do any mistakes

[royal lantern]

that sound slike something that is not even 20% working cus its overly complicated

[ashen oriole]

gear and talent choices

[clever sapphire]

define aoebuild

[ashen oriole]

it works better than dungeonslice or 10 target patchwerk fights if you ask me

BMQAcWb37Z8KXj8LlE1rTPXfsFJJJJSAAAAAAASJJSLJAAAAAAQrEJIBSSKpkEBJRSQSiWJJBA

there it is defined

[royal lantern]

?????

dungeon slice has professional work behind it

i really doubt it gets close to that lol

[ashen oriole]

doubt as much as you want, check it out for yourself

[clever sapphire]

gonna do that tomorrow, see how much overall it would suggest me in an 8 academy that i did yesterday

or 2 days ago, i forgot

[ashen oriole]

yea if you have the route go for it

you can even sim with your entire group

[grim jay]

I mean its nothing new

Its overly specific

[clever sapphire]

aye thats the regular hybrid build

[grim jay]

Stupid for gearing

Questionable for talents

[clever sapphire]

it suggested hybrid build for him which is correct

[grim jay]

Doesnt change the fact

[ashen oriole]

https://warcraftpriests.com/shadow-priest-dungeon-sims/ whenever the priest website is up youll have a nice article about it

[clever sapphire]

i mean i dont see the need to get this deep into simming, maybe for really high end i guess?

[grim jay]

Brother priests been simming multitarget patchwerk for ages

So obviously they are mindblown by it

[ashen oriole]

so you think that one is even the go to in tyra weeks as opposed to this https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/DAOFVVFRRFURQmJBQCQRNVVRUVUYUEEoVQBE ?

[clever sapphire]

yap

[grim jay]

But spriest also isnt supported in dslice

[clever sapphire]

unless you are doing like keys under 13

then just go shock build

[ashen oriole]

i know i am an alt spriest since cata 😮

[grim jay]

Yeah then you should know its nowhere near comparable

[clever sapphire]

hybrid seems to be the way to go for highest of keys

[grim jay]

Simming routes is old as hell

[clever sapphire]

because it does good boss dmg and it does good aoe

[grim jay]

And there is a reason we sim dslice

[ashen oriole]

it is not comparable but its good and really gets close to the numbers i am able to pull in reality

[ashen oriole]

sadge it feels so bad on boss fights

[ashen oriole]

does great aoe and okayish boss tbh

[clever sapphire]

cleave build i presonally would only run on ruby

where CT is not thaaaat much of value

[grim jay]

Hybrid has the potentially highest target scaling, but slightly lower St than AP with BS for only slightly higher target scaling

But runs into the kb issue

As a pro doesnt rely on execute tho

[ashen oriole]

hang on what is cleave build? the one i just posted?

[clever sapphire]

yap

well you would take IW over imp poison

and you got yourself cleave

[woeful meteor]

no iron wire dungeon build

hard trolling

[ashen oriole]

Cleave : https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/DAOFVVFRRFURQmJBQCQRNVVRUVUYUEEoVQBE
Hybrid : https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/DAOFVVFRBFVRQmJBQCQBNVUVVVQZEAUKFUBE

?

[ashen oriole]

sorry copy pasted from zerocool

[clever sapphire]

i think i simmed higher ST with hybrid than ap shock, but i could be remembering wrong

[clever sapphire]

yap

[grim jay]

Well they might favor slightly different thinks, there also are 2 variants of AP Shock

[clever sapphire]

i think there are specific keys where he doesnt take IW, because they talk about route and whatnot beforehand and he just wants more dmg instead of silence

[grim jay]

With and without BS

[ashen oriole]

ye i know you can also take dashing and have flying daggers for some keys - its about the general idea

😄

[clever sapphire]

i would never go without blindside

if i go with any build thats not hybrid i do that because i want blindside

[ashen oriole]

so Hybrid on every key but RLP and maybe HOI ?

[grim jay]

For me the main issue of Hybrid is the kb reliance, which is why I often default to AP

[clever sapphire]

rlp i can see the argument for cleave, HOI everything until after frog boss is shit for cleave (well maybe it gets better at like 17+)

[clever sapphire]

for me the main issue of hybrid is no blindside

xD

[ashen oriole]

i think assa would be in a good place if you could have both sides

[potent raven]

is raider.io

down for you too guys

[grim jay]

Idk compared to the other melees it already is pretty good

Just too weak defensively

[ashen oriole]

ye for several hours already

[potent raven]

ok ye ic

ty

[spice surge]

Its only weak whenever feint doesnt work

And thats more often than not a coinflip

[grim jay]

Which sadly happens on the most annoying stuff

Like galearrow

[ashen oriole]

feint doesnt work sometimes?

i did not know that..

would explain some shit though

[spice surge]

No it always works against area of effect spells

Its just, whats considered an area of effect spell is a coinflip

Like gale arrow for example, its an ability that hits all 5 of your party members, but the boss is shooting 5 singletarget spells, not 1 aoe spell

[ashen oriole]

feint works on every dmg?

[spice surge]

Not unless you spec elusiveness

And even with elusiveness its only 20%

Compared to 40% regular feint

[ocean quiver]

First time playing assassin here, do we press kingsbane before deathmark or other way around?

[ashen oriole]

am i reading it wrong?

[potent raven]

what build should i go

for 15 halls

cleave or bleed

[ashen oriole]

eluvisvess only increases aoe part

the 20% against all seem base feint

[nimble zinc]

Q: about diurna's ring - it said it burns the target for X fire dmg every 2 sec - how long does it last?

does it last like an entire boss fight, or do you have to keep re-igniting the target?

[nimble zinc]

deathmark before kingsbane

[potent raven]

man idk what to play

in a 15 halls

like

those mobs die so quick

[ocean quiver]

Any particular reason? I've always been doing kingsbane then deathmark lmao

[potent raven]

bleeds seem useless

[ocean quiver]

Was never sure on what to do

[ashen oriole]

@potent raven take a lower ilvl spriest and an aug, problem solved

[potent raven]

i have spriest/mage

so prolly go cleave ye

[ashen oriole]

too much dmg

[potent raven]

yup

[ashen oriole]

even the fire mage must be bored

[potent raven]

guys not fire

forst

[ashen oriole]

oh forst

[potent raven]

frost*

[ashen oriole]

wel yea then maybe thell him to go fire so the adds live longer

[nimble zinc]

forst mage bis

[potent raven]

its fine

ill go cleave

it does good dmg anyway

the mobs die too quick

no matter what

its halls

[ashen oriole]

on hoi probably a good choice

[nimble zinc]

🫡

[ashen oriole]

especially for first boss

[spice surge]

Because you want kingsbane inside deathmark for more poison procs

Same reason you only kingsbane with envenom and shiv up

[ocean quiver]

Oh right gotcha

Yeah I been doing it wrong then

I always did kingsbane, deathmark, shadow dance, shiv

💀

[nimble zinc]

its okay we're all learning

[ocean quiver]

Last time I played assassin was like season 2 shadowlands

[potent raven]

yeahh u need to mcro shadowdance to kingsbane so u snapshot it

[nimble zinc]

you always wanna do your bleeds first, slice and dice, envenom, then shiv > shadow dance > dm > kb

[ocean quiver]

when it was just crimson tempest spam

[potent raven]

and shiv before kb so it covers it

[ocean quiver]

snapshot?

[ashen oriole]

deathmark doesnt increase poison procss just the dmg - and kingsbane being a poison i guess increases kingsbane dmg too?

[potent raven]

#showtooltip
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Kingsbane

[spice surge]

?

Read the tooltip of deathmark again

[potent raven]

yeah the nightstalker buff applies to kingsbane

when u use sd

[potent raven]

so u need to always use shadowdance with kingsbane

so macro it

[ashen oriole]

the dpuplicated thing?

oh i see

[nimble zinc]

DM duplicates your bleeds AND poisons

[ocean quiver]

gotcha ty

[potent raven]

did u read the guide btw?

[ocean quiver]

first time using the tempest build now so gonna see what the damage is

[ocean quiver]

nah I just went in blind lmao

[potent raven]

i think you should it covers everything you need to know

and if theres more depth to something like

why do u need to use sd with kingsbane