assassination

[hearty coral]

can someone explain me how kingsbane works? Its like another dot?

please

[desert pasture]

Cow?

[waxen oyster]

tauren

its a joke since they have slightly more hp

[desert pasture]

Sorry i dont speak non-human races

[spice surge]

Yes its a dot

Everytime you proc your weapon poison against the target that has kingsbane on it, the kingsbane does more damage

[hearty coral]

so the idea is using it then full envenom?

[spice surge]

The idea is to have envenom up for all of it yes

[thorn fjord]

Man of class... R is also my SD/KB macro... Have KB set to Shift R incase something dumb happens

[spice surge]

I'd suggest reading through the guides linked in here / #assassination-faq to get a better baseline understanding

[limber lion]

Shift + E

[snow kindle]

is signet still better than torch on 5m+

[vagrant pawn]

where do I put manic grieftorch in my rotation...

[spice spire]

Depends on other trinket

[spice spire]

If it sims better yes

[vagrant pawn]

i'm just using a timewalkin trink right now... but i'm going to pick up the ashes w/ my other bullions

[spice spire]

If it’s ashes. You’ll use torch after CDs since you want to use ashes with CDs

[vagrant pawn]

ok

tyvm

[spice spire]

[snow kindle]

can you sim GT uses

[spice surge]

Not sure but you can quite easily napkin math how much extra it would give

[spice spire]

I kill the healers every pull at the exact same time I’ve found the sauce dw

[spice surge]

To use the trinket one or two additional times

[spice spire]

(This is a joke, eleem is right)

[spice surge]

Casual raid terrorism

[spice spire]

Know if you’re on farm and everyone’s playing well GT acts to sim, if you have apes chances are you have to defensive more and GT might be a tad better

Do with that what you will

[spice spire]

That implies I hurt people and healers aren’t people

[waxen oyster]

tricks a boomkin on fyrak

[spice surge]

This is why you are in group 6 during hc week brother

[waxen oyster]

and pull with torch

big brain

[spice spire]

Real

[royal lantern]

instant fried chicken, smart

[keen spruce]

[full summit]

i just discovered bullions, boys were getting all our bis this week

[nimble zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/what-why-huh-steve-harvey-confused-gif-3998567347368525851

[full summit]

bam ashes just got bought

6 more bullions to go

[keen spruce]

dimi plz

[full summit]

came back to the game yesterdya after a 2 month break

[keen spruce]

oh ok

nvm

carry on

[full summit]

lol dw im not that dumb

[keen spruce]

[grave trail]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[full summit]

which is better tho

?

is it still beast?

[keen spruce]

doesn't matter

it's basically all just flavor

[full summit]

personal preference?

kk

[keen spruce]

leech is pretty overrated. the stamina could be nice if there's one shot mechanics at high M+

i think the cheat death is scuffed

like not a real cheat

[full summit]

meh

i might get stam knowing myself

[keen spruce]

then like situationally the DR ones maybe

it's not really worth worrying about

tbh i'd probably jsut take elemental for convenience

[full summit]

fair

[earnest timber]

whats the max item level the nick of time can go up to this season?

[full summit]

so i got 2 more bullions do i go ashes grief torch or ashes Irideus fragment?

[runic hinge]

Grief is super good

Can oce or icon if in a group running those

Or nelth trinket if you want a highroll passive thing

[bronze pike]

ye

[amber lark]

/wa

mt

[gilded oasis]

are you good?

[dull cloak]

is bone spike not good at all for council fights

[balmy condor]

nop

[slate crown]

Do we swap to add on m sennarth?

[balmy condor]

you can

caustic won't reach the boss

but add needs to die

[spice spire]

Nah

[gilded oasis]

I got u

[slate crown]

Yeah not happening in this pug

oh well, got through terros and got the dagger at least

[spice spire]

Bless upbig dog

[nimble zinc]

Hey if I do Primal Council on Mythic, what’s the best way to handle that fight? On heroic I’ve been doing the M+ arterial shock build. It did better than my standard caustic splatter cleave build.

But like in that case is it still best to use Ashes with KB caustic splatter ramp? Or use it on all my bleeds: aoe garotte, rupture and CT?

[nimble zinc]

I don’t think you’d want both ashes and fragment. They’re too similar

[full summit]

so what do you think i should do then?

[runic hinge]

Hey I heard assa is the best spec in the game rn

[past bobcat]

Does aoe blind work on raz spark?

[cursive owl]

Lets go !

[earnest remnant]

Ye

[pliant terrace]

!details

[prisma monolith]

To stop details from resetting on vanish, go into the settings and under Overall Data, make sure "Use Dynamic Overall Damage" is checked.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1173432355785027584/details_vanish.png

[hexed frost]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[cursive owl]

mister Bonespike OWO new update, im now on 60% crit and 60% mastery, have 1 headslot open and 1 ringslot + i need to change back also.

i think i will get a good haste Head with Crit on it to see how good haste works, im currently occring a problem that is that in my Opener Rotation the 3rd Ambush Bugs out and i cant use it because master assassin fades and it turns into mutilate. sometimes it works and sometimes not. its realy annoying 😄

[ashen oriole]

this sim still includes S3 Catalyst boots on 528 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rSKJAZRW4k5VDJDCfzjpeu

[icy acorn]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[grim jay]

Thats a bug that has been a thing for ages

Can only disable stealth bar swapping or have a separate keybind

[cursive owl]

ye i guessed, or get more haste to press the button faster x)

[grim jay]

You dont get a reduced gcd on rogue

[cursive owl]

well when BL is on , i can press it easily

haste always reduce gcd by a ammount

as far as i know

[grim jay]

Not for energy classes

[balmy condor]

energy classes are 1 second always

[cursive owl]

OH O_O

i didnt know D:

fk rogue i reroll on mage Kappa

joking ...

well

still getting some haste might fix it somehow OwO i am stubborn

[grim jay]

Its a bug

No amount of stat or prayers will fix it

[cursive owl]

IDC

[grim jay]

There are people that dont have it for some reason, maybe ping

Like me

I dont notice it

[cursive owl]

u wanna tell me with a 6ms ping im having not the issues ? x)

[grim jay]

Maybe your ping is too low

[cursive owl]

start downloading porn while raiding or what ?

(meme reference)

[grim jay]

Nah fr tho, noone knows why its happening at all. Its not even the skill itself, happens with multiple as its been like that for sub with dance for ages

[cursive owl]

i see

maybe they should Sub to a Sin rogue to fix it Kappa

[quiet oar]

Only rogue withotu 1 sec gcd is outlaw in Adrenaline Rush

[cursive owl]

well ! it sometimes not happend to me , but i noticed recently when my stats shifted from 20% haste to 15% i dunno how , thats why i thought it maybe the issue

[quiet oar]

thats 0,8s

[cursive owl]

why do we rogues get PI then LUL ?

[royal lantern]

it has NOTHING to do with haste

haste has 0effect beyond "you do more dmg"

you dont do anything faster, no faster GCD, nothing

[royal lantern]

cus it gives dmg?

weird question tbh

[grim jay]

Isnt it 0.75

[quiet oar]

no

[cursive owl]

Tryan ? are u angry ? can u Read my comment again please ?

[royal lantern]

huh

[grim jay]

Dang, one more reason to not like pirates

[royal lantern]

just gave an answer

[quiet oar]

Because more procs on poisons

[cursive owl]

i feel honestly offended by your post now

[silk bane]

yeah tyran why must u be so angry

[quiet oar]

faster KB maxxing

[royal lantern]

assa gets Pi cus it gives the spec more dmg during its kingsbane window, thats it

[quiet oar]

Tryan is always angry

He is german

ofc

he is angry

[royal lantern]

how is that angry

[quiet oar]

We always are

[grim jay]

Im german aswell and barely ever angry

[silk bane]

remember the chill tyran

the never doom tyran

[quiet oar]

[cursive owl]

I told it "felt" like it was , i got already told is not the Haste issue , why are u Exagerating in CAPS that its NOT the problem

[silk bane]

it all changed when the deathstalker tree attacked

[quiet oar]

DId this version of him exist?

[silk bane]

only whispyr the master of cope could stand to the tree

but when RH needed him the most

[royal lantern]

thats just how i type lol, dont think to deep about it

[silk bane]

he dissapeaard to play runescape or some shit idk

[grim jay]

He was more chill before he had to press TB on cd

[royal lantern]

??

[cursive owl]

it felt like u were screaming towards me like im a 5 year old dont understanding that the square doesnt fit in the cirlce 😮

[grim jay]

Jk

[royal lantern]

the square fits the circle if you press hard enough

[cursive owl]

x)

[quiet oar]

Well tbf

[cursive owl]

is there a work around ß

?

[ashen oriole]

maybe you should feel less triggered by the size of characters

[silk bane]

just like deathstalker is a good tree if you look at the vision hard enough

[quiet oar]

Sometimes you need to explain stuff like you were talking to a 5 year old

[silk bane]

kekw

[quiet oar]

in here

[runic hinge]

I made a separate keybind for mutilate for the last second of subterfuge

[grim jay]

Wouldnt that mean that either the square would fit the square or the circle the circle depending on which forms material would give out first

[quiet oar]

DONT TELL ME WHEN I SHOULD BE TRIGGERED OK !?!?!??!?!?!?!?!

[runic hinge]

And last second of dance

[cursive owl]

maybe u should say some more logical arguments

[cursive owl]

i tryd to put my mutilate extra but i forgot that my monkeybrain told me , oh it switches to ambush imidiatey

[grim jay]

You are german and outlaw, arent you getting triggered most of the time? You just hide it

[ashen oriole]

okay mate, go get some haste for gcd reduction and if not go reroll mage kekw

[grim jay]

Can just make a macro

[cursive owl]

why are u mad ? Its only a game

[cursive owl]

HAHAHAHAHAH

[runic hinge]

Breezy

[quiet oar]

Cant be triggered with a zoomer brain, because my attention span doesnt let me think about stuff

[ashen oriole]

nothing to be mad about. im not a snowflake that is triggered by capitalised letters.

[grim jay]

I thought zoomers get triggered more easily

[royal lantern]

you just have to go full cringe huh?

[cursive owl]

wtf is your problem ? go bother someone else

[ashen oriole]

if you say so

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/monke-stick-fight-gif-23054990

[royal lantern]

like, me and @cursive owl had a small miss understanding, i told him that i didnt mean it the way they thought i did, thats it, dont need to go full "lmao SnOwFlAkE"

[cursive owl]

i figured out with tryan in 2 seconds, didnt know him/her and now we fine, why u bugging in this topic and start insulting me ? weird O-o

[cursive owl]

true

[ashen oriole]

lmao ❄️

[cursive owl]

ahhh ok

theres a nice button tryan OwO

[runic hinge]

[cursive owl]

called " block this user"

[ashen oriole]

please do it

[quiet oar]

[cursive owl]

just to Trigger someone, so i get my inner monk in peace , " after i got my crit stacking build ready and tested it out, ill go for haste stack to see if the gcd changes "

[cursive owl]

what macro ?

[lean portal]

hey guys when will all 3 raids be awakened ? in 3 weeks then ?

thought it was today

[balmy condor]

Blizzard backtracked it

https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-confirms-awakened-rotation-continues-until-war-within-pre-patch-342669?webhook

[lean portal]

oho ok

ty

[grim jay]

One thats using mutilate

As it should use mutilate anyways even if the skill itself changed to ambush on your Bar

[cursive owl]

i dont have that one can u post it ?

[balmy condor]

what are we trying to do

you can't macro out of blindside procs

[cursive owl]

uhh

davyn said theres a macro if ure in SD and your mutilate goes Ambus, we can still use mutilate at some point because of the "bug" that appear if u use the opener and after the Rupture when u try to press ambush, it laggs and doesnt work and u need to wait a sec so SD falls off and u can us mutilate.

[clever sapphire]

what if i cancelaura macro it

[balmy condor]

oh

I mean

that's not a macro

[cursive owl]

or is there a work around

[balmy condor]

that's just called having another keybind

for mutilate

[clever sapphire]

put mutilate on your stealthbar also

[cursive owl]

O_O

i did !

[balmy condor]

or do it like everyone else

and ignore it

[cursive owl]

it switches to ambush LUL ?

[balmy condor]

cause who cares

lmao

[balmy condor]

then it's not your stealth bar

stealth doesn't switch mut

[cursive owl]

well it fks me up 1 GCD in rotation LUL

[balmy condor]

who cares

[cursive owl]

i do OwO

[balmy condor]

stop caring

[cursive owl]

i wanna get Orange numbers at some point in my life

[clever sapphire]

its softly annoying, like when bosses move 1 yard away from you and your finisher doesnt get cast

[balmy condor]

what

[cursive owl]

nvm

[balmy condor]

I got double punched by stupidity

[cursive owl]

well

[balmy condor]

holy

im stunlocked

[cursive owl]

xD

Good morning 😄

[kind forge]

[cursive owl]

x)

[balmy condor]

the stance swap is not going to have any effect on your parse

[cursive owl]

nah is fine, its just annoing that it feels like a lagg when it happends

[balmy condor]

sir, tf are you talking about

[clever sapphire]

well maybe its not the boss moving away, but there are times in raid when tanks are moving the boss, i press a finisher and the animation happens but it doesnt do dmg or use my cp

its rare because i just spam shadowstep now when tanks move

[balmy condor]

?????????

[cursive owl]

O_O

[balmy condor]

aight you're on some other shit

[cursive owl]

wtf is he talking about

[kind forge]

parried

[balmy condor]

talking to his voices

[clever sapphire]

nah i remember someone else having it also

[cursive owl]

hahahaha

hello oz ^^

[clever sapphire]

if i get parried when im hitting the bosses ass then i give up

[cursive owl]

OwO

Bonespike !

did u saw ?

i got my bis Waist for my project

😄

[clever sapphire]

so full crit huh

[cursive owl]

nah

i think over 60% is waste

90% crit is enought Kappa

[clever sapphire]

if it happens to me tomorrow in raid i will try to clip it as proof

and you will tell me that im cooked

and its fine

[balmy condor]

bro

idk what you're talking about

or who you're talking to

[kind forge]

[cursive owl]

xDDDDDD

[balmy condor]

we were talking about stance bar lag

[cursive owl]

Bonespike ! i got now 60/20/62/17 OwO #

[balmy condor]

and you're talking about bosses moving and shadowsteps

and god knows what

[clever sapphire]

ya and i said thats just as annoying as this

nah shadowstep is so im in range so it doesnt happen

[cursive owl]

sounds nearly like body mesurements of a women

[balmy condor]

this is just called being out of range

like

?

[clever sapphire]

ye but the animation happens and i get a gcd

[cursive owl]

i thout he is Out of Order LUL ?

[balmy condor]

yeah

[clever sapphire]

but the garrote/rupture whatever doesnt get cast

[balmy condor]

correct

[cursive owl]

wait

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[kind forge]

just get acro

[balmy condor]

welcome to lag

lmao

it went through on your client

[clever sapphire]

and thats all i needed to hear folks, back to sleep

[cursive owl]

[balmy condor]

but you're out of range on the server

massive skill issue

[cursive owl]

i cant !

[clever sapphire]

thats a given

[cursive owl]

stop !

[devout mist]

rotation?

[cursive owl]

[devout mist]

why blizz does us dirty like that

[balmy condor]

why blizz does us dirty like what

[kind forge]

[devout mist]

awakened rotation

[balmy condor]

oh

[cursive owl]

is there a 360 no scope Rupter macro for bonespike so he can get it all the time Kappa ?

[balmy condor]

meme season dunno

[clever sapphire]

ye its pressing shadowstep before the cast if boss moves

[devout mist]

tmr im gonna log in beta, pick rogue

start crying

[clever sapphire]

made my own solution to my movement skill issue

[devout mist]

and pick something else

[balmy condor]

yeh you can test all the bugged dungeons

[cursive owl]

why u use shadowstep for rupture i dont have it extra anywhere just makro to KB and ure gut

[balmy condor]

now everyone can get the alpha experience

[clever sapphire]

its not macrod, i just press it

[cursive owl]

O_O

[devout mist]

idk how flipping coins ended up looking like the most fun/complete hero talent tree

[clever sapphire]

the only macro thats not mouseover or focus target is dm and ashes together

[balmy condor]

trickster is sick

[clever sapphire]

i dont have anything else macrod

[devout mist]

after i dont have to press feint ill decide that

XD

[balmy condor]

honestly might play sub season 1 unless they fix deathstalker just for trickster

[cursive owl]

u can use DM and ashes in a macro O_O ?

[balmy condor]

idc bout feint though

[royal lantern]

feint was the only bad part

and that changes

[balmy condor]

the feint stuff doesn't even bother me

[royal lantern]

the rest is good for sub

[balmy condor]

but it's just a W

[devout mist]

question is, what will they change it to, since it took so long to change to begin with

[balmy condor]

who knows

[clever sapphire]

neltharus is still bugged since release, so i will get to experience bugged dungeons even in S3 of tww probably, no need to hurry onto beta for that

[devout mist]

they literally wanna add another button to rotation

[royal lantern]

its cringe for outlaw cus LOL KILLINGSPREE, but for sub its good

[devout mist]

and they dont know which

[balmy condor]

that's been the topic of #tww-subtlety for the last 3 weeks

[devout mist]

inb4 snd the new trickster proc

[grim jay]

Hope he gets well soon

[clever sapphire]

ye just macro
/cast dm
/use ashes
and done

[cursive owl]

HAHAHAHAHA

[devout mist]

30 sec left on snd? gotta press it anyway

[cursive owl]

[royal lantern]

probs something like every 2nd or 3rd finisher

idk

[grim jay]

Detection

[devout mist]

im concerned about the removal of shadow dance from assa, m+ assa will be worse off imo

[royal lantern]

instant BiS tree

[devout mist]

even with the 6s subterfuge

[cursive owl]

O_O no SD for assa ?

D:

[devout mist]

SD will be sub exclusive

[cursive owl]

😭

[regal sable]

does anyone have an idea of how simbait Nick of Time is? Can't get any myth track pieces to sim higher than a 515

[normal mist]

Good

[frosty bridge]

that's a positive :3

[normal mist]

It's bis off hand

[frosty bridge]

its bis

[devout mist]

bis baby

[cursive owl]

how LUL ?

[grim jay]

Honestly they gotta keep it on a skill so you can trigger it when you like, but I dont know what skill would be fine

[frosty bridge]

dance stinks except on sub

imo

[regal sable]

fantastich

ty

[cursive owl]

but i like current rotation

[grim jay]

I mean, idk how it would be simbait

[royal lantern]

imo it triggering in a set amount of finisher seems most likely

[normal mist]

We say the same every time it changes

[grim jay]

Yeah probably. But might end up weird

[royal lantern]

and nothing will change there?

dance rn is only for giving kingsbane more dmg

[cursive owl]

but but but but qwq

[normal mist]

But?

It just over complicates

[royal lantern]

you dont even really notice dance existing beyond "macro it with kingsbane, do kingsbane->garrote"

[clever sapphire]

sword just likes dance thats all

[grim jay]

Its a separate CD for IC tho, which will end up costing you IC usage time

[cursive owl]

ok

[frosty bridge]

Idk i hope we dont run kingsbane in M+ next season and dont have dance

[normal mist]

Yeah but 2 charges on vanish might make up for it

[grim jay]

Yeah, would be great to get more aoe with even less St

[cursive owl]

what else is there to live for if u dont use SD and macro it to Dance emote ?

[grim jay]

No because 2 charges is 1 more usage the whole dungeon

[frosty bridge]

the numbers itself arent the point

[royal lantern]

can i be honest

i never had a seperate dance keybind the entire time and just always used it for KB and never outside of it, never really noticed much

[grim jay]

Its a consequencs of what you said

[cursive owl]

oh we get 2 vanish stacks LUL

[frosty bridge]

i'd rather have something like SBS in m+ and more consistent damage rather than only doing damage during a 1 min CD

[cursive owl]

nice UwU

[clever sapphire]

i have a free keybind now that dance is gonna be gone so now i need to put something there

[grim jay]

But you did still spread with IC at that point

[grim jay]

Good that you dont only do dmg during a 1 min CD

[frosty bridge]

yeh ur right

1 min kingsbane also barely does anything

[regal sable]

timestrike proc or smthn, logs have it at <0.8% dps

am just surprised

[frosty bridge]

yeah but it has full stats + the effect

[grim jay]

Its a free proc and the dagger ilvl in offhand is only a couple of stats

[frosty bridge]

usually weapons with effects have reduced stats

and offhand ilvl isnt as important

[cursive owl]

timestrike is gigachad trust us

[grim jay]

I wouldnt go that far, its decent but far from the only dmg if you run AP Shock for example

[cursive owl]

i dont kno sht about tww changes 😄 i will have a look if the trees are finished

[royal lantern]

it is the best cus offhand itself is such a whatever slot that even such a small dmg proc makes it better then any other offhand

but also, its such a small amount that it doesnt matter, that thing wont make or break anything at all beyond "sim number 1k higher"

[clever sapphire]

excuse me, 522 timestrike is "sim number 3k higher"

(i still didnt touch dawn this season and wont be doing so)

[grim jay]

Just go in

Loot it

Be done

[royal lantern]

you think im playing season4 beyond raidlogging?

[sick forge]

doubt that this will be any better than torch+ashes?

[frosty bridge]

it wont

[balmy condor]

Oh no not the timewalking again

[cursive owl]

[grim jay]

There is this really sick tw dungeon trinket....

[balmy condor]

No there isn’t

Don’t even fucking joke about that

This happens every timewalking week

[devout mist]

wait

dummy question time

can assa equip non dagger weps at all?

[grim jay]

Sure you can

[quiet oar]

Equip yes

Playing no

[grim jay]

But you wont deal dmg

[devout mist]

was thinking if that 2 set fists was viable

[quiet oar]

Mutilate doesnt work

I think.

[devout mist]

but i guess no

[quiet oar]

Only for law

[grim jay]

2 Set fists sounds like tw aswell

[royal lantern]

return of FoK assa

totallyfinishedtreeStalker even gives us FoK buffs

[clever sapphire]

maybe that was the idea

turn us into green text players

[quiet oar]

Poggers

[kind forge]

FoK combat

oh wait wrong decade

[potent raven]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1152549919840817273/1247802649479217242/image.png?ex=66615a46&is=666008c6&hm=9454e828cf223e85d9870991367f7b7074c0c9fc661b9bda80fbd24840ce944d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

socket

[grim jay]

Didnt you want more vers mastery for m+

Theres your cloak

[potent raven]

nah i have 0 sockets

[grim jay]

Ah alright

[potent raven]

it simmed higher w. socket its ite

[grim jay]

I still have one spare

[potent raven]

dont rly want to play m+

been just raiding and doing weeklies

recrafting my gear this week too

hopefully i manage to get a helm somehow

so i can catalyse it

[rotund oak]

got a myth track helm today on my vault

[frosty bridge]

WE BACK AT IT AGAIN SIMMING FOR AN HOUR

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kbvan8vmAT4nDVM9CRTPni

[frosty bridge]

🐐

i am seriously considering making the engi helmet 💀

[rotund oak]

yeah same,once i get a myth track shoulders im crafting engihead

or maybe a regular LW for the food embelishment

[frosty bridge]

that would kinda be my preference too but i feel super bad not having a 2nd CR

i hope they never make CR work like this again

[rotund oak]

yeah exactly,its all about the CR

[deep radish]

[frosty bridge]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I THOUGHT I CHANGED IT

NO WONDER IT TOOK SO LONG

an no you baited me

it was the right sim

we go again https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1o7x9LKNt26pFuDKuBqkKe

[real pike]

anyone know of anywhere you can see what stats you'll get from getting a non tier piece in the catalyst?

shit wait, am I right you can't put necks in the catalyst?

[kind forge]

it still says dslice

[fallen arch]

It is Dslice

[spice surge]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/revival-catalyst-dragonflight

But you can also just go there and put in an item and itll show you, but no you cant catalyse necks

[real pike]

oh this is the key info

thanks a lot

in vault so needed to know ^^

[cursive owl]

ingeneer helmet O_O

GIgachad

uh nu what am i cooking

nah

1160 crit not worth

[toxic olive]

Just open the armor set section in your mog panel whisper yourself the tier set item in question and you can see it’s stats

[tawdry dust]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[nimble zinc]

yeah i feel this, the stats on tier helm are not great, and not many other helms are better.

[gusty mirage]

wow

that's uh

fucking awful

I'm so sorry

[potent raven]

Thank you love❤️

[nimble zinc]

nothing like having your entire vault filled with trash on myth track 😦

[gusty mirage]

2 bracers and boots

THANKS VAULT

1hander that isn't thorncaller

doo doo trinket

and a cloak

that's up there with my 3 bracers 2 cloak vault I had week 1 last tier

love taking a socket week 1 of the tier

[nimble zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/panda-angry-rage-throw-mad-gif-17524071

Sim is telling me nick of time is only a 1-2k dps increase, worth farming?

(if same ilvl as current daggers)

[spice surge]

Up to you

[clever sapphire]

its an upgrade

you have to decide if the upgrade is worth

for me personally? nah

[cursive owl]

2k dps are 2k dps O-o

are you racing to world first ? ? no ? then dgaf about that dagger

[distant helm]

took a socket first week in s2,s3 and s4

[gusty mirage]

it's a terrific feeling isn't it

I felt so rewarded

[distant helm]

tbf double socket does feel kinda good

but ye one is giga despair

[clever sapphire]

getting socket week 1 just means lariat is gonna be your bis item

good for you, getting early lariat value

[gusty mirage]

imma lariat my way into oncoming traffic

how about that

[spice surge]

Surely next expac is different

[gusty mirage]

yeah you keep me posted

[devout mist]

Next expac no more sockets in vault

U have to pick an item

Or 2k gold Kappa

[raw dock]

Guys, in M+ content should I use Crimson Tempest just for keep debuff up? Or should I replace evenom for Crimson Tempest in big packs?

[spice surge]

well crimson doesnt do any damage when you press it

So spamming it does literally nothing

[raw dock]

Understand

[distant helm]

imagine if they did something like 12 vault currency = 1 bullion

but you can only buy 1 bullion a tier

that would be kinda good

especially with these very rare items still beeing in the game

that ring next season is gonna be beyond bis for us and so hard to get

[clever sapphire]

its gonna be like eranog ring

[distant helm]

ye

but last boss instead of first

[clever sapphire]

so beyond bis is going overboard

[distant helm]

i mean its also nature dmg instead of fire which will make it a lot easier for us to proc it

[spice surge]

Its probably gonna be bis for most specs

Since its not exactly like the eranog ring

But ye the power level is gonna be similar

[distant helm]

i think its gonna be a lot higher

as the ring is gonna be one a different itemlvl aswell as the rest of the items

as it drops from last boss

[clever sapphire]

i mean it all comes down to tuning

if its really strong or not

[distant helm]

i guess also true

[spice surge]

Since its got full stats theres almost no way the ring does more than like 2%

[cursive owl]

Bonespike ? can u recommend any good headgear for my goal ? crit / haste ?

[spice surge]

I mean just get any helmet, it doesnt really matter

[clever sapphire]

ngl i have no idea, i never really looked at gear and remembered their stats

[cursive owl]

[clever sapphire]

i dont think i could tell you any piece of item and the stats on it

i know that eranog ring has versa

and thats all

[cursive owl]

XD ok

[nimble zinc]

Yeah you can Sim it. Pretty much ilvl trumps all.

[royal lantern]

i know that my current crit % is lower then my crit % during S2

thats all i know about my stats

[clever sapphire]

oh my stats are even worse off

i dont know anything about those

i know that at one point i had 34% crit

[royal lantern]

yeha same

good old "lol, 34% crit, lets post it in #assassination "

[clever sapphire]

thats what i did

[cursive owl]

Kappa

tryan u know my crit ?

[royal lantern]

45%+?

[clever sapphire]

are you getting close to your dream 70%?

[cursive owl]

im tát 61% currently

at*

[gusty mirage]

[clever sapphire]

daym close

[cursive owl]

ye

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[cursive owl]

still need fyrrak trinket , headgear and 1 RING

[clever sapphire]

he is cookin up the bis augury gear

[cursive owl]

Because i wanna stand out and Troll

[gusty mirage]

fair enough

[cursive owl]

well

[clever sapphire]

it is the meme season after all

[cursive owl]

s3 i had a m+ key +9 with the snake idol from volcoros, and this trinket did pump dmg as hell back then, but i was at 58% crit so

i wanna test it so bad but had no chance rolling it yet x)

and fyrrak at ST 😄

[royal lantern]

i would still not get a KB crit on every 2nd cast

and it would make me even more pissed

[cursive owl]

xDDD

i get 80% crits on KB on a 5 min fight :>

[nimble zinc]

Do you run corrupt rage phial?

[cursive owl]

yes

tier 2

2 crit stones + agi buffood

i run 77crit / 33 mastery gems

and the Wavting devo weapon enchant

[royal lantern]

i do for the next 7 usages

then im out of rage phials and use vers

cus lmao, no way im paying those insane prices for S4 meme raiding

[cursive owl]

O_O ?

wdym

1 phial 11 g on our serve

[clever sapphire]

3star corrupting costs like 300g

[cursive owl]

3star corrupt is at 49g i think

[clever sapphire]

wat

[cursive owl]

at our server#

[nimble zinc]

What server

[cursive owl]

2star is at 11

[clever sapphire]

time to realm transfer

[cursive owl]

check EU - Blackhand

[nimble zinc]

And I thought those kinda items on AH are cross server

[spice surge]

Theyre region wide

So EU

[royal lantern]

my vault btw

[cursive owl]

then i dunno O_O

[nimble zinc]

So EU has better economy 🫢

[cursive owl]

i just bought them 3 days ago realy cheap 😮

[toxic olive]

I bought at 11g earlier today for R2

[kind forge]

[cursive owl]

[clever sapphire]

eu-blackrock

[nimble zinc]

Dude I would never do gold. 1k gold is such a pathetic amount.

[cursive owl]

O_O

[meager ginkgo]

How much to read into Sin topping last week's WCL stats? Combo of short fight times and damage amps working well in Amirdrassil? Or is the spec meaningfully better than Outlaw to swap gearing to it

[royal lantern]

what else should i take?

sockets? have all gear socketed and cant get better stuff

[nimble zinc]

Sockets? Crests? Flighstone? Spark?

[cursive owl]

2 star enought :>

[royal lantern]

and the 3star vers is 24 gold btw

[clever sapphire]

and it really is

[frosty bridge]

pretty sure realm doesnt matter anymore?

[clever sapphire]

feck crit flask

im going all in on vers flask

[royal lantern]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fyuRtxHXpo2bVYVyuy52Ef

look at my gear man, i legit cant use any of that anymore

[normal mist]

Idk if I'm late to say this but potions are region wide

[toxic olive]

Short fights, great PI target all inflate burst specs. That being said it’s the better prog spec as less uptime reliant. But this is a meme season. I wouldn’t force gearing for it 2 months before prepatch

[normal mist]

Along with crafting materials

[clever sapphire]

ya its fine, realized it already and a few people mentioned

whatsword just has that special deal somehow

[normal mist]

What sword?

[cursive owl]

hm ?

i didnt know UWU

i was just thinking why so expensive ? im sure i bought them very cheap O_O

[kind forge]

belt enchant?

[normal mist]

Ever since SL crafting materials and potions and other stuff are region wide and not server based

[meager ginkgo]

Ty for quick reply. Would you make the same comment on Sin vs. Sub? I know WCL has been bugged for a while and damage stats can't be relied on. I have decent sub gear and if it's essentially on par may play that

[cursive owl]

[royal lantern]

ah yes, im gonna pay 14k gold for 2k more hp on the meme season

[normal mist]

Wait, did you buy it in the non meme seasons?

[cursive owl]

i did Kappa

[normal mist]

[cursive owl]

what exactly ?

[royal lantern]

yes

cus i could craft it myself kinda cheap, maxed out blacksmith and stuff

[cursive owl]

ahhh

[royal lantern]

this season i cant even craft it myself without losing gold

[normal mist]

Oh that's different

[spice surge]

Just dont be poor?

[royal lantern]

cus the material prices are so high

[toxic olive]

Yes, similar and if you have gear for it already just try out sub

[meager ginkgo]

Tyvm again

[cursive owl]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vkYPaXFV7BsXJ8vFMYtFsF RIP qwq

[royal lantern]

jokes on you, on fyrakk re-clear the RL said "oh, you have the sark cloak, yeha you dont do seeds"

checkmate

less stamina payoff

can afk hit boss in p3

[normal mist]

You don't like juggling seeds P3?

[cursive owl]

ok im missing 13 ILVL

[normal mist]

Weak

[clever sapphire]

ah good for you, its only 9k now unless you wanna buy the expensive 1star version

[royal lantern]

price probs changed again

[clever sapphire]

i mean i dont have belt enchant either

[royal lantern]

was 13k when i got the belt, and i was just like "eh, who cares"

[clever sapphire]

feck that shit

[normal mist]

Never had, never will

[cursive owl]

wow armory says im at 50% crit >w< Fake News !

[normal mist]

Wow armory and misinformation

Name a better duo

[icy acorn]

id argue youre still more tanky than many other classes

:D

[cursive owl]

[royal lantern]

im pressing deffensive abilitys and avoid fire

[icy acorn]

smort man

or woman

[royal lantern]

tbh, rogue is not that great for seeds

[icy acorn]

dont wanna assume

kek

[royal lantern]

when you have mage and paladins and warlocks

rogue has cloak, which stops the dot for 5 seconds and thats it lol, healers mercy after that

[cursive owl]

google automatic translator

[icy acorn]

what a sword

lmao

[royal lantern]

mage is pressing TOTALLY NOT BROKEN mirror images once and seed is GG

[icy acorn]

seeds as a melee is kinda cringe ngl

(paladin is a ranged class, change my mind)

[cursive owl]

ok

i found out my stats but actually there more now cause of belt changes

i think im at 9k crit now

ok later o/

[clever sapphire]

actually still at 34%

[icy acorn]

how much crit in % is that lmao

[cursive owl]

61%

i believe

[icy acorn]

damn

[cursive owl]

work shift ends :> brb in 30 mins need to drive home xD

[icy acorn]

im rocking 41%

[grim jay]

I have 50.07 buffed

[royal lantern]

i have 34% weird brother

[clever sapphire]

actually pretty close stat wise huh

[royal lantern]

i mean, yeha? most slots will be simmelar for most people

4 tier slots, 2 trinkets, 1 ring

[grim jay]

Simmelar

[royal lantern]

all the same

[icy acorn]

i just equip what the simbot tells me to

[royal lantern]

leme do it wrong nerd

[grim jay]

Its just funny bcs it looks german

[grim jay]

Smart man

Unless you wanna do high m+

Or woman

[royal lantern]

ja warum wohl?

[grim jay]

Woran hat et jelejen

[icy acorn]

Dieser Kommentarbereich ist jetzt eigentum der Bundesrepublik Deutschland

[normal mist]

Now in English before I too start speaking Chinese

[spice spire]

The Germans have invaded

Again

[royal lantern]

wir haben dich trozdem lieb

[spice surge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CduA0TULnow

[spice spire]

Ily2

[royal lantern]

why are early 2000 music videos such a accid trip

[quiet oar]

Ich werde dich trotzdem umarmen und schützen

[spice surge]

In the end, it doesnt really matter

[quiet oar]

But just in case, wake me up when September ends

[spice spire]

Ty for that need that German protection

Which is kind of a

[cursive owl]

wait

yep 9k 😄

[shy pecan]

I see what you did there...

[quiet oar]

Ye, He Walks a lonely road

[amber stream]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[grim jay]

I've heard its called the boulevard of broken dreams

[spice surge]

It makes your knees weak, arms heavy

Vomit on his sweater already, moms spaghetti

[gusty mirage]

you know what that means

time to send out the warnings

[grim jay]

jetzt sei doch nicht so, mein knuddelbärchen

[gusty mirage]

interesting you continue to violate the rules of the server

and then you tag a moderator in doing so

[vestal wren]

halt, stop, we speak english in this server

[grim jay]

because I know that you can take a joke

[grim jay]

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/memeblog-monkey-gif-18207748

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-gif-27570735

[gusty mirage]

fuu is mistaken, we don't speak english in this server. From now on we only communicate in gorilla/monkey gifs

https://tenor.com/view/bonobo-gamer-monkey-team-mate-gif-17557065

[silk bane]

https://tenor.com/view/get-away-monkey-dog-cute-sweet-gif-15496989

[gusty mirage]

actual footage of our TCers simming deathstalker gains

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-monkey-jumping-off-woman-gif-2251411651926747818

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-laught-monkey-laught-smile-funny-gif-8811182016519780369

[thorny pond]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-5923988

[gusty mirage]

welcome back senor beach

[silk bane]

https://tenor.com/view/tusareve-monkey-gorilla-umm-gif-24269085

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/gorila-ligón-gif-15180072019903262289

[thorny pond]

https://tenor.com/view/gorila-monyet-hai-halo-lambai-gif-11025448

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-side-eye-gorilla-side-eye-bell-pepper-gorilla-eating-side-eye-gif-9785946903997916886

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/funnygifs-monkeybusiness-monkey-monkeygrip-roomtomove-gif-13156357

[gusty mirage]

do you think monkeys and apes know how much I love them

[grim jay]

I bet

[gusty mirage]

so far the only ape that knows I love him is @spice spire

[silk bane]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-love-monkey-cute-monkey-hug-hug-monkey-gif-8658152799845650442

[gusty mirage]

FUCKIN GOT EM BOYS

PACK IT IN

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/ponke-ponkesol-solana-monke-monkey-gif-745207933553249995

[gusty mirage]

its me and @gusty kestrel

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/obese-monkey-fat-monkey-summer-belly-eating-lettuce-summer-look-gif-13014350

I thought thats you

[gusty mirage]

that's a well fed boy

[silk bane]

im happy for you two ❤️

[gusty mirage]

holy

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-gif-27570735

[gusty mirage]

how's he that big eating only lettuce

something aint adding up

[grim jay]

how do you know its a boy

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/mongy-monke-monge-cute-cleaning-gif-27532745

[gusty mirage]

you don't wanna know

[ember mural]

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/pog-monkey-meme-funny-dank-gif-20017414

[gusty kestrel]

SORRY NOT ALLOWED IN HERE

[gusty mirage]

[south token]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[normal mist]

Royal: opens #assassination
Royal: Sees monkeys everywhere
Royal: Home sweet home

[rotund oak]

bro ate all the lettuce or something

[quiet forge]

what is the 'real' % value uptime to sim Blue silken lining in raid environment?

mostly HC and low mythic nothing fancy

[spice surge]

The default 40% should be fine, but you could always check your own logs to see how it looks

[quiet forge]

default is 65% no?

[spice surge]

no

[quiet forge]

I must have changed it by a mistake some time ago and it stayed that way lol

[rotund oak]

u can open a log of urs

[lime edge]

I use 65 for m+

[rotund oak]

and go on buffs=>zone of focus

check the uptime

[distant helm]

depends on the boss aswell usually whats your uptime gonna be

[rotund oak]

yup u can just check individual(fight) logs

and check ur uptime for it

and sim accordingly

assuming u want a more realistic approach on ur sim

[quiet forge]

I dont have the embalishments yet, playing outlaw but need assa for raids

I will just pick a few random logs from warcraftlogs and see

thank u guys

[toxic olive]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[forest nacelle]

Say a few prayers for @tall jay 's PC, he might have borked it.

[royal lantern]

[cursive owl]

Tryan

did u see ?

[normal mist]

[sharp viper]

I wouldn't recommend doing that if you don't want to

such different itemization and if you don't enjoy playing assa you will probably not outperform you playing outlaw

[thorny plover]

hmm i'm considering switching from outlaw to assa - especially in high keys for m+ - am i making a big mistake?😅

[royal lantern]

i dont see why you would do that

[tall jay]

Me!!!!! I just hate the fact that our new hero talents blew up my computer…that’s my excuse and I’m sticking to it…right Whispyr lol

[frosty bridge]

@gusty mirage https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7NHyMad5V7ooim9WKgVd8Q

in case you are bored at work

[forest nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/lolol-lmao-gif-22173456

[balmy condor]

My computer exploded yesterday playing d4 man

[grim jay]

how

d4 is kinda low on effects

unless they edited spells since release

[gusty mirage]

d4 with full settings is not low on effects at all

[balmy condor]

Went unresponsive, I turned it off, turned it on, flashbang

[gusty mirage]

plus with the redesigned helltides there's like 8 million things going on now

[balmy condor]

Power supply and motherboard are donezo

[tall jay]

I am reinstalling windows everything lol hopefully this works…and hopefully this will be it, if not, I am down for the count boys!!!! Can’t afford a new computer!!!

76gb still to go

[gusty mirage]

d4 shut my PC down like 8 times cause of overheating

[proven jasper]

On launch i literally couldnt play d4 it overheated my pc so fast

[spice surge]

Hold up you aint playing, your pc actually got fucked

[balmy condor]

Yes

[spice surge]

Thats unfortunate man

F

[gusty mirage]

I blame Jez

[balmy condor]

I got new parts coming Thursday

[slate crown]

Didn't this happen just before s3 too?

[gusty mirage]

but your maplestory prog

[balmy condor]

Laptop :$

[balmy condor]

Yes and no

[normal mist]

Rip Whispyr

[gusty mirage]

does that mean I'm the captain now?

[balmy condor]

My computer boomed as well

But it was different reason

[frosty bridge]

RIP

[gusty mirage]

imma join whispyr's motherboard and psu in heaven

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[gusty mirage]

I've been in this deposition for 3 hours

who let me be a lawyer

[serene sapphire]

can we get 2 buffs from 2 Cruel Dreamcarvers ?

[spice surge]

The dagger is unique

[grim jay]

idk the skills of the classes are way tamer than before/in other games

[forest nacelle]

like literally?

😦

[serene sapphire]

phew almost bought 2 of them with bullions on my fresh rogue lol

[spice surge]

Well it would prevent you from doing it

[balmy condor]

I guess

[serene sapphire]

yea cant equip so can refund

[grim jay]

as you seem to be playing in some way, do you still need to do the chores on season like altars?

[gusty mirage]

no, altars have been 1 and done since season 1

renown is also now account wide

the non-gold bonuses are just active always

[grim jay]

would I need to do it again if I did it on launch? like, did they just flag it done no matter when you did it ?

[gusty mirage]

nah just log into your character that has that + the renown done

and you're just perma done

nightmare dungeons are still cringe tho

[proven jasper]

wish i had known that before getting halfway thru the renown grind on a barb after already doing it on launch

[hexed frost]

I've only played D4 season 1, didn't play D4 again. Do I need to throw away all the old gear in my bag to start now? Too many changes?

[proven jasper]

Youd have to start a new character

if you were playing seasonal

[hexed frost]

No non-seasonal

Didn't play seasonal

[proven jasper]

Well they did like completely change items at one point

So probably yeah

[gusty mirage]

naw

they reitemized things

idk if it affects older items, I never checked

[hexed frost]

Hmmm will probably just make a druid

[icy acorn]

its super weird not having acro when you swap from sub to assa lmao

[royal lantern]

eh, acro has not really THAT much value on assa anyway

like, its neat QoL, but many of your aoe tools dont work with acro anyway

[dark token]

ye its only good on ST raid bosses

and even then not worth 3-4% dmg loss

i did 460k on diurna last week and 330k this week. Played the same with same killtime

[sand jewel]

!wa

[dark token]

whats the diff

oh

didnt put on amp poison

[slate crown]

Morose is sleepy

[potent raven]

can someone

i dont get it

it just pushes u back with 100 circles at once

do i just shadowstep to boss

nvm figured.

[trail pollen]

for pvp should I get the four piece or stay with the two piece and get the value from mastery stats off other pieces?

icy veins kinda says you stick on 2 piece but idk if that's relevant in season 4

[dark token]

Yes lol

You can step each one

[potent raven]

yea bro

on it

do u use

deathmark

on 2nd platform at all

[trail pollen]

but what if they smell

[potent raven]

like those adds have

20m hp

idk when the fck do use it i just spam it

on 2nd platform

[dark token]

2nd plat idk my timings were right at end of p2 then p3

[potent raven]

and my kb doesnt tick at all

[dark token]

Mine wasn't even up

[potent raven]

ye but

the adds have

no hp

oh ok

[dark token]

I would use KB in intermission

[potent raven]

u use boss? we phase too quick then

[dark token]

Not deathmark

[potent raven]

so save mark?

n kb only

no vanish nothing

and then on shield

go ham

[dark token]

I did deathmark 1st shield and 3rd shield

KB 2nd shield and intermission

[potent raven]

ye but add platform u didnt yea?

[dark token]

Deathmark p3

[potent raven]

or did you at all

[dark token]

Add platform you mean p1.5?

[potent raven]

yeah like

when u have to go to sides

and get pushed

[dark token]

I use only KB

[potent raven]

into adds