assassination

[balmy condor]

ilu2

[shy pecan]

Whispyr

[balmy condor]

Edwardo Santiago hernandez san rafael domingo perez guadalupe fredrico de la cruz

what can I do for you

[shy pecan]

You really thought that one out, huh

Anyway, got hit in the head with a can of soda today

Luckily, it was a soft drink

[shy pecan]

[balmy condor]

[keen spruce]

#assassination message

@gusty mirage

[shy pecan]

Same

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

you good?

[keen spruce]

the screenshot isn't

fking internet

makin me look like a crzy person

let me flame oxi in peace

[balmy condor]

that's not even the right pin to link to

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

oh

that one

yeah

[gusty mirage]

they added an ICD to the stacks

fuck you

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-should-been-gif-23901254

[gusty mirage]

unfortunate rng

[jade wadi]

are yall buying ring with your next 2 bullion or goin trink? i bought ashes with my first 2.

[somber sparrow]

when doing droptimizer, seems odd the sim just wants me to replace my finger 1 (currently 502 equipped) with the seal of filial duty, while my finger 2 is 489. and that it seems to think the seal of diurnas chosen would be a dps loss to take. hmm

[raven egret]

3 holy priest in the raid, RL decides to not give me PI for the first time this expac on pull

Reason: bloodmallet

[balmy condor]

I mean

reasonabl

if you got unholy/dev

probably shouldn't be getting pi

[dark token]

If ur actually minmaxing pi you pi the unholy and dev on pull then assa rest of fight

[keen spruce]

do you hvae something equipped that can proc diurnas?

and do the sims even check for that?

[somber sparrow]

just the incandescent enchant on helm

[keen spruce]

that's a little weirdge

ig with no main stat on rings they can spit out weird results sometimes

but that is unexpected

[somber sparrow]

i'm trying the gear page now and doing individual ring sims

we'll see 😄

[raven egret]

the 3rd PI went to a BM

which all in all if thats the plan, fine I guess, but that was sprung up on raid start and the other priests were not setup for the timings

[balmy condor]

the timings?

it's just whisper macros ain't it

[raven egret]

you wont believe me if I say 2/3 arnt using that

[somber sparrow]

so looks like both are an upgrade (I simmed them at 515 ilvl) and the filial absorb ring seems to be the bigger upgrade first. fortunately i think i'll be getting both this week.

[balmy condor]

but this says the absorb is the smaller upgrade

oh

nvm

that's both

[violet jackal]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[somber sparrow]

yeah yeah 😄 i was just about to say it's a bit wild with how i had to choose all the options

[balmy condor]

weirdge sim

[somber sparrow]

trying to compare slot 1 and slot 2 basically

[balmy condor]

why not just top gear

or droptimizer

[spice surge]

Its generally recommended to just topgear instead of using gear compare, less room for errors or wonky things

[balmy condor]

gear compare kinda blows tbh

[somber sparrow]

i was using droptimizer to find bullion purchase, and was surprised with the filial duty recommendation being so high and replacing a 502 instead of my other ring which is 489.

[balmy condor]

yeh happens

stats funny

[earnest timber]

HE SAID THE WORD

[somber sparrow]

i suppose where rings don't provide agility, it prefers whatever secondaries i need the most

[earnest timber]

||STATS||

[pure moth]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8hRTdqXXEbC1TTQamxW2Gx how come the sims don't put in the 2nd bsl?

[jade wadi]

so are we still getting our 1 bullion from raid this week?

[raven egret]

yes

[shy pecan]

You’re getting one each week from raid. You can get two additional ones by doing four mythic dungeons this week

[jade wadi]

ty

[balmy condor]

BSL not stacking is rumored atm

looking into it

[earnest timber]

id do it before doing the weekly i heard some people got cucked out of their weekly bullions unless that got hotfixed, not too sure

bsl not calculating the mastery?

[balmy condor]

not stacking

[earnest timber]

[spice surge]

Make sure you drop below 90% and get healed back up

Common issue after re-equiping a second bsl

[pure moth]

oh ok

[balmy condor]

wait

[earnest timber]

i just do that & also unequip

[balmy condor]

this sim is cursed

[spice surge]

Or maybe youre just referring to a simc issue idk

[balmy condor]

why the fuck is the crafted gear from the great vault

[pure moth]

even shit in my bags show up as gv

so i dunno what its doing

[balmy condor]

there's no combo with 2x BSL

[spice surge]

If you add it via the gear search

[balmy condor]

cause it's only ever allowed to pick one of them

[spice surge]

With the gv enabled

Even crafted shows up as gv

[balmy condor]

awful

[pure moth]

but i had 2 bsl selected

[balmy condor]

yes but you put it under the vault section

you pasted it here

so it counted it as vault

have to paste them above that

[pure moth]

weird. i just copied it under teh simc string

ok

[balmy condor]

yeah

that's exactly the problem

can't just copy it under the simc string :P

raidbots sections them off

so it's your equipped, then a new section for bag, then a new section for vault

since the vault section is last, pasting them at the end adds it to the vault section

so all the crafted gear counted as vault and limited it to 1

[pure moth]

well then. ill resim it after raid

[balmy condor]

just gotta go up a level and paste it alongside all your gear and it'll work

[pure moth]

will do. thanks

apparently i'm copy and paste challenged

[balmy condor]

I didn't understand for a while too

the GV tag caught me

[pure moth]

it caught me, and i ignored it cuz figured things were bugged

[balmy condor]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tXDNdxMxD4jZg4wrR4z44s

I gotchu

[pure moth]

yeah much better haha

thanks

[balmy condor]

[woeful meteor]

nearly 300k no PI sim

[tall jay]

I’m a sad I screwed up my vault. I don’t realize I was in outlaw spec lol

[hexed willow]

eh you didnt screw it that much

no bis daggers from vault

[raven egret]

ye unless you got like 6 swords

[placid wave]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[gilded oasis]

im gonna retire now

before anyone else kills the boss

[spice spire]

Real ass mf

[gilded oasis]

I realize its just cause no one has done mythic yet but Im going to ignore that ok

[spice spire]

Yeah

Still

[tall jay]

I have the herioc sark dagger so now I just need to get one of the daggers out of this weeks raid and i Gucci no?

[thorn fjord]

Heroic dreamcarver secured

[tall jay]

Can we use the bollion to get the sark dagger AND use the herioc dagger or is that a unique equip

[runic hinge]

[runic hinge]

Gotta figure out how to crop so it doesn’t say outta 23

[thorn fjord]

Thorncaller just dropped too

Lets see what happens

[snow hamlet]

really?

[thorn fjord]

Heroic thorncaller secured

big gains

[slate crown]

I finally logged into s4

I have no idea what is going on

inventories are a mess

[runic hinge]

Sell it all

[chilly marsh]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/t4dfGDRiYsZFe2vTJGUkBD Ashes that bad in m+? looks weird

[thorn fjord]

Heroic ashes secured too holy fuck

[drifting cloud]

what did you buy with your first bullion set sus

[gilded oasis]

my money is on torch

[runic hinge]

Looks good to me boss

[foggy juniper]

isnt cleave build better to run on tyrannical than shock?

since shock boss dps is kinda sad

[runic hinge]

Sim them both for patchwerk I wanna see

[foggy juniper]

hybrid

cleave

AS

[urban lily]

seems like hybrid is useless build

less aoe than shock and worse st

[errant swallow]

What talents are you guys using in keys this week

[urban lily]

by the looks of it, cleave

[errant swallow]

Thanks

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[runic hinge]

I think I just love CT too much

[urban lily]

i love it too, but on these weeks just feel like shit on bosses

[balmy condor]

ct gud

[urban lily]

on tyrannical week feel miserable kek

[vast loom]

i love grieftorch

[urban lily]

my trinkets are uber garbage

was expecting more lmao

[jagged yoke]

is it ok to have ambush in the same button as mutilatye when on the stealth bar?

[still stirrup]

It changes automatically

And you aren't going to muti from stealth anyway, ambush replaces it

[scenic nacelle]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[acoustic sky]

Sup.

What talents do you play for tyrnanical weeks ?

[balmy condor]

lot of people play cleave

[jagged yoke]

mine doesnt seem to auto change?

[slate crown]

It only auto changes with blindside

[slate crown]

Yes

[jagged yoke]

thanks

[rain mortar]

First boss in AA - I’d say buffs feels pretty nice

[runic hinge]

Which build

[rain mortar]

The AP build

[runic hinge]

Based

[split grail]

Does the blue silk linging stack? Why take two

[shy pecan]

It does.

[hollow wren]

What as second emblishment, still 2x siliken?

[balmy condor]

yes

[quiet oar]

Nice,

[whole mason]

is this just first boss or including the adds before it?

[fierce sigil]

With 130 mio damage i would say only First Boss without the trash before

[grim jay]

Obviously incl adds

Kappa

No its just the boss

With the adds it spawns

[fierce sigil]

Y

[whole mason]

that boss is ok, meaningful model

[grim jay]

Idk AA is always a weird key

Id rather see damage in azure or bracken

[whole mason]

could you post a total dmg for the whole run?

[grim jay]

Sin might be pretty good in m+ now, some people were memeing that it wont be better than sub after the buffs

But it remains to be seen

[lavish pine]

Quick question.

I can only add embellishments when crafting gear and not add embellishment to a piece of gear that I already have, correct?

[balmy condor]

you can recraft a crafted piece

[royal lantern]

embellishment is crafted gear only yes, can re-craft it for them

[balmy condor]

and add it from there

[odd dirge]

its crazy that the bis neck is STILL the kazzak neck from last patch

[balmy condor]

except it isn't

[odd dirge]

if you use eranog ring (which you would)

OSHIT this is the wrong channel

i meant to type in outlaw

vanish vanish VANISH

[royal lantern]

yahtzee Pirates

[lavish pine]

Thank you @balmy condor & @royal lantern

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-pirates-day-chuckmccarthy-arrr-gif-10893476421774942887

[hollow wren]

only i have problem to join pug m+ keys? .... whats wrong with players

[grim jay]

Its as usual

Either you have 3k or are meta

[balmy condor]

you've identified the problem

"pug"

pug anything is miserable

[minor spade]

^

[balmy condor]

gaming communities will try their hardest to make the most ridiculous requirements for a group

[royal lantern]

you pug and dont play a class that has heroism/CR or is current top#1-#3 FotM meta

thats the problem

[jagged yoke]

is the Arterial Shock build still best for m+?

[balmy condor]

only way to pug is run your own key tbh

[balmy condor]

depends who you're asking I guess

plenty of people play shock for the aoe

[royal lantern]

classic players kicking everyone that isnt geared in fully "BiS pre-raid gear" on all slots for bosses that die in 40seconds:

[balmy condor]

plenty of people play cleave for the single target

depending on who cares for what type of damage

you'll get different answers

[rocky idol]

i made a new message for the grieftorch weakaura when someone dies, what do yall think?
Dead body 尸体 power of grief 悲伤的力量 once more 再一次 your mistake many thanks 你的错误非常感谢 enjoy the floor 享受地

[balmy condor]

think the whole chinese macro text meme is a bit racist

but you do you king

[jagged yoke]

is sin bottom of the charts atm?

[royal lantern]

not anymore

[grim jay]

I dont even know where thats coming from

Seen plenty of it

[balmy condor]

I mean if you think about it

[neon oxide]

we're now above Aug, if thats what you mean

[balmy condor]

the whole chinese macro thing is basically just
"haha broken english"
"haha they can't speak english"

which is a bit weird

like just as a concept

kinda weird

[neon oxide]

I mean I cant speak any of the chinese dialects, whos the real idiot here

[grim jay]

Yeah but it must have a root somewhere, guess its some meme

[quiet oar]

WoW Players being racist?

surprised pikachu

[balmy condor]

it's the same as like NA-illidan having a large chinese community

and then people going like why don't they just speak english

cause.... they're not from an english speaking nation?

why don't you just speak chinese

?

idk

[royal lantern]

wir sollten alle deutsch sprechen

[grim jay]

I think they should just speak german.

[quiet oar]

Amtssprache ist deutsch Whisp

[grim jay]

Dang tryan

[royal lantern]

ayoooo

[balmy condor]

I get it, haha funny macro funny word haha

like it's a very common meme for a macro

but if you take a minute to think about it

it's kinda cringe

[runic hinge]

I regret buying grieftorch with my first dinar

[balmy condor]

incorrect

you love grieftorch

[quiet oar]

Even better (Diese Kommentarsektion ist nun Eigentum der Bundesrepublik Deutschland)

[grim jay]

Thats me with about atleast half of the memes people seem to love

[neon oxide]

I got grieftorch from my TW cache week 1, I love it and I love publicly thanking my guildmates for resetting it

[quiet oar]

Its good in ST and also good in AOE

[balmy condor]

okay but that's cause you're old

[grim jay]

Im 28, im basically youth incarnate

[balmy condor]

TWENTY EIGHT

brother

I bet you have health insurance and live alone

[quiet oar]

One half of you is alrady in grave

[balmy condor]

old fucking bald lookin ass grey hair havin mfer

[neon oxide]

I'm 28 and I have health insurance

[junior aurora]

i have to get my own health insurance next year, might just die instead

[neon oxide]

this hurts

[royal lantern]

im 26 and noticed 2weeks ago that im 26 and not 27

wanna talk about age?

[balmy condor]

I went to boomerville and everyone there knew you

[junior aurora]

im gonna be 26 yikes

[neon oxide]

If I had any feelings left that mighta hurt, but I'm so old they decayed

[grim jay]

German (so of course health insurance), owning a house, cooking AND doing stuff in the garden. Dang im THAT old

If you think about it

[balmy condor]

BRO IS GARDENING

god damn

are you my grandma?

[junior aurora]

Wtf

Gardening is for 40+

[neon oxide]

ngl Gardening slaps

[balmy condor]

I'll come visit you in august so you can complain that your roses didn't bloom cause it was too hot in july and there wasn't enough rain

god damn

[runic hinge]

Actually it’s rained too much

[neon oxide]

Akchtually in the UK i t's been super wet, it's like the rainiest spring I can remember

[balmy condor]

rain in the UK

what a concept

[quiet oar]

Whats next, you buyign groceries at 7 am in an Aldi?

[royal lantern]

penny

[neon oxide]

my GF actually does this

[royal lantern]

[quiet oar]

[royal lantern]

early groceries is great cus there are no other people

[quiet oar]

You can fix her

[neon oxide]

It means I dont have to go with her

win/win

I genuinely think grocery shopping and washing are the 2most boring things in life

[royal lantern]

doing dishes

[neon oxide]

Dishwasher

[royal lantern]

worst shit in this world

[neon oxide]

ez

[grim jay]

Just kidding, just some lawnmowing, cutting the hedge and a few self sufficient plants here and there

[royal lantern]

no space for one

[neon oxide]

make space

rip the fcking sink out

fill water up with the outside tap if you got to

dishwasher BiS

use your dinar on a dishwasher

[quiet oar]

Well someone needs to empty the dishwasher

[grim jay]

10 am is early enough on saturdays and I only go to rewe and dornseifer

[junior aurora]

washing dishes is easy

[quiet oar]

Just buy Plastic/Paper dishes amirite ????

[junior aurora]

just get good sponges

[neon oxide]

Scrub daddy is great

[junior aurora]

^

[grim jay]

Dishwasher was the best buy right after the rice cooker

[royal lantern]

penny for groceries and neto for 2 LITER TETRAPACK SCHÄDDELSPALTER WEIN LETS FUCKING GO

[quiet oar]

You can sponge me if you want

[grim jay]

Dang tetrapack Wein

Thats tough

[junior aurora]

ill bring the essential oils

[grim jay]

The only tetrapack stuff I ever bought was icetea back then as a kid

[quiet oar]

But this ice tea

was the best thing you ever drank

after playing in the garden

[grim jay]

Nah we were playing in the forest

But if you think about it

The forest is just like a big garden

[thin furnace]

Whysp, are you still here?

[grim jay]

He is currently unavailabe as he is watching a gardening video for his new flower section

[normal mist]

That's lore accurate

[fierce sigil]

!!!!

[quiet oar]

But the Ice tea hit different

ngl

[fierce sigil]

That ice tea has been best ever….. But sadly its only the past… But u know… legends Never die

In my Heart forever

[grim jay]

Now I'm sitting at work with coffee and a plant

Times change

[quiet oar]

Im sitting in the office

[earnest remnant]

thats a weird looking coffee

[quiet oar]

and will drive to schools, doing my IT things in about 30 mins

[grim jay]

Im about to get a new one so I didnt wanna place an empty cup

[grim jay]

IT is nice

[neon oxide]

your coffee looks strangely like a portable speaker

[neon oxide]

damnit I wasa beaten to it

[grim jay]

Thats work equipment

So I can endure

[neon oxide]

I feel you on that

I always have the radio or something playing while working

btw I'd like to thank Season 4 for giving me the time to discover Fallout New Vegas

[sick radish]

bullion quest fixed?

[balmy condor]

the dungeon one?

[sick radish]

yea, no need to do raid first?

[balmy condor]

nope, quest works fine

never was broken in the first place

either that or blizzard fixed it like instantly

wowhead tried to confirm it and couldn't find any reliable evidence that it bugged in the first place

basically was just some guy going "it doesn't work" with no context and it spread like wildfire

[royal python]

Is voice of the silent star cloak worth spending billions on

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-me-purposefully-spreading-misinformation-on-the-internet-teddy-bear-typing-misinformation-on-the-internet-gif-27679617

[royal python]

Bullions

[balmy condor]

are you trying to get as close to BiS as possible?

[normal mist]

Rip stealth

[thin furnace]

Whysp can i send u a DM about a wowhead guide concern?

[balmy condor]

of course

[normal mist]

No don't whisper him, I'm curious too!

[royal python]

Kinda

[normal mist]

[balmy condor]

then I guess it's worth it

[normal mist]

It breaks stealth fyi

Unless it was fixed

[royal python]

Oh

[normal mist]

Was it fixed?

[balmy condor]

I could've sworn it was fixed

[junior aurora]

if you’re doing m+ losing the stamina hurts too

[balmy condor]

but it's been such a long time

[normal mist]

Ikr

Nelth trinket doesn't break stealth, nor do I remember if it used to

[balmy condor]

I'm like 98% sure they fixed it

nelth trinket definitely didn't break stealth

[royal python]

Even monk healing breaks stealth, is it like that

[balmy condor]

that's the statue and they fixed that too I'm pretty sure

[royal python]

It broke stealth just last week for me

[balmy condor]

interesting

[quiet oar]

He means getting buillons from quest blocks your raid looting buillon

[balmy condor]

I know

that's not a thing

[quiet oar]

its not?

[balmy condor]

no

[grim jay]

Maybe he just had bad luck with raid drops.

So he furiously typed

Fast

Without thinking

[balmy condor]

we had like a dozen wowhead people looking into it and no one could find proof that it was a thing

pretty sure they wrote an article on it and just needed to confirm to post

but couldn't confirm

[eager plaza]

do you have to keep up crimson tempest in st ion m+?

[normal mist]

Nou

There's no need for that

[junior aurora]

4+ targets only

[royal lantern]

and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull

(spoiler)

god that part is so cringe

[primal jolt]

now with the buff im doing a gorillion dps

no one can keep up

[balmy condor]

+7% = +700000%

unimaginable power

I can't count that high

[normal mist]

You can't stop our minds from feeling like the main character again

[rotund oak]

only 12ilvl jump on the reset

[primal jolt]

now i will always be on top of the board on lfr

[normal mist]

only hehe

[royal lantern]

will probs be the same for me lmao

can replace all 4 tier pieces now + replace the thorn Boots

[balmy condor]

it's kind of insane how 7% is the difference between "we're the fucking worst unplayable dogshit imaginable game is ruined uninstall" and "holy shit spec is CRANKING BOYS WE ARE SO BACK"

[primal jolt]

tfw the recent sin buffs were too much so we decided to tune it down by nerfing all damage by 25%

[rotund oak]

yup new 4p hero track,belt craft and ashes+ring myth track

[ruby helm]

does it feel more viable in m+ after buffs?

[grim jay]

Maybe people are getting PI again aswell

[pseudo hamlet]

I mean... it's just plain bonus damage buff, of course

[royal lantern]

take old numbers

increase by 7%

realise you are still not a paladin/spriest/mage

[primal jolt]

keep saying no to everyone time to gatekeep the most op class in the game rn

[grim jay]

I mean

Paladin still doesnt get into groups

[balmy condor]

tryan back at it again

[primal jolt]

no joke sin is like atm at bare minimum top 20 dps

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-notes-noted-gif-26232003

[primal jolt]

out of 12 playable classes

[rotund oak]

ild say top 10 once we clear out gear a bit

but we got long way ahead

sin feels amazing in m+ btw

dmg is there

[primal jolt]

can they nerf sin again i dont like this positivity in the channels

it was funny listening to doomers

[rotund oak]

[grim jay]

Idk, sin is a pretty viable PI spec, so that puts you above some in m+ already as you always wanna have a PI target for the inevitable priest in your group.
Also if you include PI in raids it doesnt look grim at all

[primal jolt]

ye i always have windfury pi and aug in the back of my pocket

[clever sapphire]

im kinda unsure what to do with my bullion, have ashes and normal grieftorch. Do i just upgrade grieftorch still because its op

[grim jay]

Time to change guild or build better groups

[ruby helm]

Anyone have any good rotational beginne video guides for rotation and whatnot you reccomend? still newish to rogue

[rotund oak]

whispyr's guide

[grim jay]

Well sim

[primal jolt]

use garotte use like slice and dice and like rupture

and use envenom

[rotund oak]

right side of ur discord,purple names,the last one

[primal jolt]

[balmy condor]

just use the discord search and type from:tryan

endless content

[primal jolt]

i already read all of it

thats my issue

[balmy condor]

damn

[primal jolt]

i am always up to date when hes typing

[ruby helm]

ty

[rotund oak]

yw

[balmy condor]

been here 2 weeks

already knows the meta

bro is cracked

[grim jay]

I mean

He/she is shank/shanked

What did you expect

[primal jolt]

i go by shanked

even though im not british

[balmy condor]

jesus

[rotund oak]

im half from north yorkshire

[grim jay]

I never know if memeing on that is adequate

I dont wanna start a crusade

[rotund oak]

still cant understand in what context shanked applies

[livid rover]

guys, bug not fixed?

[rotund oak]

i mean u like shanks in general or?

[balmy condor]

I'll let it slide but typically try to avoid it

[willow grotto]

hello, double use or cataclysmic ?

[junior aurora]

people in the UK get stabbed a lot

[balmy condor]

pins

[balmy condor]

pins/sims

[rotund oak]

cataclysmic doesnt rly do good dam unless fights go 5min+,provided u got uptime

[primal jolt]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/33gV2pckMcHEYLQA69sSjswqr9lkrflxWki7_2lZaE4/https/www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/i7Fij2hQEfQfm8xM6nDEx7/preview.png?format=webp&quality=lossless

how crazy is the buff

crazyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[rotund oak]

[balmy condor]

not that crazy

got some fat gear upgrades to go along with that

[primal jolt]

i havent played yet

just got that morning sim going

like a morning coffee

[balmy condor]

well you did something different

I ain't gud at mathin, but 5+2 is not 14

[primal jolt]

it shouldnt be tbh i literally havent even played yesterday

ill check

[rotund oak]

[grim jay]

Maybe shanked changed from m+ to St talents

[crimson lotus]

do we always use kingsbane and shadow dance together?

[clever sapphire]

but that would make his dps go down, because its changing from outlaw to assa

[rotund oak]

yes

A L W A Y S

[crimson lotus]

should i macro it then?

[rotund oak]

not rly but if u want its not a big deal

[grim jay]

Dont just assume people are sinners

[balmy condor]

most people macro it I'm pretty sure

[clever sapphire]

ha, sin

[balmy condor]

like a good 90%+

removes some control for like niche m+ I guess

[primal jolt]

i might have upgraded my mainhand dagger to max rank which ive forgotten about

[balmy condor]

but shouldn't be an issue

[crimson lotus]

alright ty and thanks for the guides

[balmy condor]

np

[grim jay]

Unless you macro it to kb in the second press

Why does it always correct my on to in

[clever sapphire]

i always press kb and dance together and i dont have it macrod, i just enjoy my button presses what can i say

[balmy condor]

hows that even work

you cast sequence dance -> kb I guess

that's whack

[whole mason]

instead of "地", use "地板"

[rotund oak]

i usually press them separate for minor timing ''inconsistencies''

[grim jay]

Idk anymore maybe stance? I just copied it out of the dance GB macro fuu had

But I do have them separate aswell

[balmy condor]

interesting

I don't have them separate cause I'm just too lazy and don't care enough

oh no, I might be losing a little bit of damage because I missed a cast once every 7 dungeons

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[grim jay]

How can you live with knowing

You couldve been a better version of yourself

[balmy condor]

I can live with knowing because dps is the least important factor in timing a key

that's why none of these fucking builds matter

[primal jolt]

i cant dps because im busy yelling at the healer

[balmy condor]

everyone always asking oh which build

like it makes a difference

lmao

[grim jay]

But what about the people that solely base their self esteem as a dps on the details meter

[primal jolt]

i mean it does when comparing your cock to other dps

in who does more damage

[balmy condor]

don't cock compare I guess

[primal jolt]

ok but what if my friends say haha shitter small cock dps

ill literally kms

[grim jay]

Dang Whispyr just knows its huge

[rotund oak]

u send them a dick pic bro

[primal jolt]

so true...

[rotund oak]

establish dominance

[grim jay]

Piss on their desk

Wait what

[balmy condor]

life becomes so much better when you just don't care what other people think of you

ESPECIALLY not randoms on the internet

[rotund oak]

not giving a fuck about other ppl opinions makes life more fun and intersting

[grim jay]

True. So many people depend on Social Media for affirmation

[balmy condor]

that's why I like sap so much

[grim jay]

They need to cut that too

[balmy condor]

I don't know shit about the guy

and when he says some dumb shit

I'm like bro

that's dumb shit

and he's like damn yeah that's dumb shit

and he moves on

cause he's ascended

[rotund oak]

yup,u accept mistakes

learn and move on

[grim jay]

Phew you never said that to me ever since legion

[rotund oak]

🤝

[grim jay]

[balmy condor]

you disappeared to sub

[royal lantern]

cant compete, must double down on dumb shit

[grim jay]

I sometimes change specs, but my heart never changes

[balmy condor]

brother you've been on a role lately I will obliterate you if you even breathe funny

[primal jolt]

and then tomorrow you respec to outlaw

[royal lantern]

pls obliterate me

[rotund oak]

not this expansion no thx

[primal jolt]

i hate outlaw so much its unreal

[rotund oak]

i dont hate,its weakness

[placid cobalt]

Hi guys, so considering bug fix is it a flat 7-8% buff to sin? how is it looking now compared to sub?

[balmy condor]

back to bed sir

[royal lantern]

equal/slightly better

[grim jay]

Im still holding onto the most precious memories

[balmy condor]

that's not me

[royal lantern]

i Wish,stuck at work

[balmy condor]

orange and wrong pfp

[willow grotto]

if u play double use, use ashe on burst and after grieftorch on cd ?

[balmy condor]

yes

I should change pfps again

[willow grotto]

Oh easy, fine

[grim jay]

Its alright, people know you have that side

[balmy condor]

just to make people uncomfortable with change

or get more youtube hate comments

[royal lantern]

huh

[balmy condor]

oh do you not know the lore

[grim jay]

Soyfaced whatever they call you.

[royal lantern]

allright wait, youtube comments, that explains it allready

[balmy condor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1227731609642471534/image.png?ex=663bee29&is=663a9ca9&hm=4618d9125af92155cd716b746ab5d10c8c674d4421474eb577ee2df43d5b1174&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=810&height=97

[royal lantern]

[grim jay]

Bro what

[balmy condor]

coomer on the internet

[royal lantern]

"ass master but not the rogue kind" is peak

[primal jolt]

time to make a cute anime girl vtuber persona for coaching rogue

[balmy condor]

done

now what

[junior aurora]

whispyr doesnt need a vtuber model to be a cute anime girl that can coach you

[primal jolt]

now you get all the dudes in your dms

[junior aurora]

!whispyr

sadge

[balmy condor]

yeah but then they say I'm ass master but not the rogue kind

[grim jay]

People still get mad about beautiful men in 2024

[balmy condor]

and homophobic

[primal jolt]

why would anyone complain about having a strong manly figure coaching them rogue

[balmy condor]

bro I'm bi

ain't shit about me that's manly

[junior aurora]

need oxi to coach

[primal jolt]

you play rogue

thats manly

[balmy condor]

based

if that guy called me a boykisser I would've been cooked on god

[junior aurora]

sup boykisser

[balmy condor]

maybe he's just complimenting my ass ya know

[junior aurora]

assmaster

what title dont you have

[primal jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191033734707814401/1237088926594896053/Boys_boys_oh_my_god_oh_my_god_speech_bubble-1.gif

ah shit

[balmy condor]

woah woah woah

[primal jolt]

missed it

[balmy condor]

leaking pics of me?

wild

[subtle tundra]

are we best rogue spec now?

[grim jay]

Always fun how insecure some people must be. Good stuff is always people reacting with disgust when they see gay people openly in public, ask me if I dont feel uncomfortable seeing that and I reply with yes, but that goes for excessive kissing of hetero couples aswell. Faces are gold and they usually dont reply further

[subtle tundra]

how are we in m+?

[balmy condor]

always have been

[primal jolt]

KEK

[grim jay]

[rotund oak]

pretty cool two chest'd a +10

dmg is there

[balmy condor]

yeh idk, humans are animals and animals are weird

[grim jay]

People should like what they want honestly, how does it affect others. Idk

[royal lantern]

around 7% better is my gues

[balmy condor]

especially tryan

gottem

[subtle tundra]

gah damn i almost beat a fire mage thats 10 ilvls higher than me yesterday(he was doubling my ST)

[primal jolt]

OK hear me out, the 7% is ACTUALLY a NERF because now the mobs die too fast for you to ramp your dps

[grim jay]

I mean he couldve replied with still no retri/shadow/evoker

[royal lantern]

REAL

[balmy condor]

why aren't you doing the theorycrafting holy shit

[primal jolt]

THEY NERFED ASSA OH GOD

[junior aurora]

revert it ig

we scale too hard

[balmy condor]

he did that earlier, still on cooldown

[grim jay]

Well played

[balmy condor]

[subtle tundra]

man it feels weird to have actual personalities in your guild

[balmy condor]

[subtle tundra]

jdotb is trialing

[balmy condor]

you mean like

people?

oh

like famous personalities

[subtle tundra]

yea

[royal lantern]

who is that

[subtle tundra]

a 40yo

[balmy condor]

jdotb is the healer on twitter who makes banger memes

[subtle tundra]

well mdi winner is in my guild too but i like jdotb more

[balmy condor]

look at that stash

what a man

[subtle tundra]

isnt jdotb an mdi winner too or smth? back in legion

[balmy condor]

yeah

[primal jolt]

rn im practicing sin dooming because eventually you guys are going to die of old age and someone has to take over yknow what im saying

[subtle tundra]

holy!

[balmy condor]

he's a super old school healer guy

[primal jolt]

there must always be a doomer tryan

[royal lantern]

when you said that my first thought was "sooo..Taylor Swift?"

[royal lantern]

huh

[primal jolt]

dw about it

[royal lantern]

im 26 man

[primal jolt]

basically one leg in grave tbh

[royal lantern]

• its gonna be hard to reach my degen level of dooming

[primal jolt]

im 25

thats why im practicing

[junior aurora]

im 25 too only thing i doom about is my prospects outside of the pc

[rotund oak]

i rly should stop chatting here

u boys are too young

[junior aurora]

dont go to outlaw chat

[rotund oak]

im

[junior aurora]

half of them cant drink

[royal lantern]

actual infants

[rotund oak]

yup

[royal lantern]

skip brings the average age of #outlaw up by 6years

[primal jolt]

sin is the elderly only

[balmy condor]

down*

[primal jolt]

i logged on my rogue

and all i could hear was

CHAMPION

HELP

HARBRINGER

crazy

my vault is horrible

oh my god

[lunar thicket]

oh no.... he is back?!

[primal jolt]

cant say who

ive been told that this is a secret mission

[balmy condor]

you think we're going into an expansion entirely underground, with a full slate of ancient dwarves that span across 2/4 of the zones, and following the whispers of azeroth

and he WONT show up?

he's salivating

THE WOONS

[lunar thicket]

solved

[primal jolt]

since when is chadgar this socially awkward

[royal lantern]

since always?

we talk about Mister "i dont wanna tell somebody that i have feelings for her, so i just gift her a bag of sparkling coins (that you had to collect out of poop)"

[primal jolt]

time to reroll to mage

how df am i suppose to fight the void with a fucking knife

[royal lantern]

the same we always do

beeing really good at it

[quiet oar]

CHAMPION WE NEED SOME AZERITE

[grim jay]

Im trying to fight the void aswell

[rotund oak]

good point

[royal lantern]

CHAMPION

SOMONE STOLE ALL ME AZERITE FROM ME SECRET STASH

BREAK THEIR KNEECAPS

[grim jay]

She got it on a char that probably wont ever use it

[quiet oar]

SCHATZKAMMER

[royal lantern]

AUSWÄHLEN.

[grim jay]

More like Kammer des Schreckens

[primal jolt]

i wont play this expansion

im not the protagonist

gg

scammed

[lusty mountain]

guys question with bullions

for this: grieftorch or diurnas?

m+ oriented

[balmy condor]

grief

[neat plank]

hopefully this will go away in TWW once youve completed something on 1 char

[primal jolt]

i hope it will be the same as it was with magni

where its there for ages

[rotund oak]

grieftorch

[lusty mountain]

ty!!!!!!!

[primal jolt]

i wont lie i might get nelth call to suffering for bullions

because i CBAAAAAA using torch

[rotund oak]

💀

grieftorch is so much dmg man

[primal jolt]

yes but i have to click it

[rotund oak]

yeah true

[grim jay]

Nah

You have to press the button

Clicking is weak

[rotund oak]

thats a different approach to that

[grim jay]

Idk, its not like we have a gazillion skills

[primal jolt]

are we playing the same class

[grim jay]

And everything is better than nelth rng

[balmy condor]

after 10.2 yeh not a lot of skills

[rotund oak]

idk,ive been through testing the grieftorch bug and its insane how much dmg it does with 1 press

[balmy condor]

my action bars have holes in them

[rotund oak]

u do like 14mil dmg

by just sprinting and pressing it

[balmy condor]

I also didn't mind the amount of buttons originally though

so I'm not a great measuring stick for that

[primal jolt]

on how much cd is the other active trinket put

[rotund oak]

30sec

assuming u press ashes and then send torch on ur downtime

[grim jay]

The only spec that imo gets awkward with binds is arcane mage

[primal jolt]

im worried the torch click might mess up my cd wiht ashes

[grim jay]

And they even lose some skills next expansion bcs of it

[primal jolt]

if i click it too late

[rotund oak]

not rly no

[primal jolt]

beacuse of the resets

[rotund oak]

ive been sending both consistently

on 10s now

last BH

[grim jay]

Well just look at ashes CD before you press

[rotund oak]

i had torch doing 14mil dmg

on 1st pull

its stupid because large pulls cheese its cd

and u can reuse it

and the outlaw dudes on WA count now

[wild birch]

Can you cast torch on the move?

[rotund oak]

the trinket prolly gonna get nuked

[normal mist]

Yes

[rotund oak]

yes

[primal jolt]

what have you done

youre making me rething my bullion purchase

[rotund oak]

i mean

outside the bug

its still stronger

than suffering

its pretty much a no brainer

[primal jolt]

i can feel my laziness prevail

[dark token]

?

[clever sapphire]

how does your torch do 14M, my torch doesnt do that much in a key

[rotund oak]

ppl die

u reset

[primal jolt]

so what you do is you spread the pleague in brackenhide and then you cloak

[dark token]

people dying to cheese torch has always been a thing

[grim jay]

What keys are you running lol

I have torch at like 35m in keys

[rotund oak]

its a bug,while mobs moving u sprint and run by them and pressing torch and/or jumping

makes the trinket bug and from a normal 9 hits it hits like 80times

[clever sapphire]

aight so i have torch on normal, also i forgot to use it a lot this key im gonna assume because last key it did 21M

[rotund oak]

there are cases my torch hit like 90

[grim jay]

Yeah I have it on 528 and use it on CD basically.

I never hold it unless dmg amp or something needs to die in the next pull

[rotund oak]

i press on cd

its very big trinket

[grim jay]

Im an ethical gamer, I atleast hold for important stuff

[clever sapphire]

i dunno why, i always forget about torch

[grim jay]

[rotund oak]

m+ and ethics man

💀

my bet is that the trinket gonna get nuked

coz ppl dont know how to stfu about it

the tome already got fixed,now its torch time

[clever sapphire]

tome just got an aoe cap

[floral reef]

ive not encountered that bug at all

[junior aurora]

torch aint getting nuked

if anything they already put the fix in for it when they made it gcd

[rotund oak]

hope it remains as it is tbh

its very fun to play around it

[junior aurora]

it got nerfed s1 iirc but was still good

itll likely remain as is now, its not busted or anything

[balmy condor]

it got buffed going into this season

[fast stag]

Hi,
you find it good to use : Ashes of the Embersoul and Manic Grieftorch ?

[balmy condor]

yes

[rotund oak]

idk how u define busted but its supposed to do 1.1mil dmg and it can do up to 20mil

[balmy condor]

the hits can aoe

that's intended

[rotund oak]

yup

but i think the gap is very high

also the hit count

[junior aurora]

busted is the tome trinket

target capped now but its still insane

[grim jay]

I actually dont know how it works

[floral reef]

my torch has never done 20m

must be bugged

[rotund oak]

mine done 14.7mil

highest till now

[floral reef]

so the spaghetti has to align perfectly in the code and ull hit

[quiet oar]

Nah

Its Not random

Nor luck

[floral reef]

so what enables it then?

[quiet oar]

Well

[floral reef]

say grieftorch 3 times and flicker the light

[rotund oak]

Tira found and tested the bug btw^^

[quiet oar]

Its a fetch quest

Its in ravenholdt

In one of the spec channels

Its a thread

[rotund oak]

killed both hyenas on BH hunter boss btw

with torch

[floral reef]

so technically correct

thats so weird

[quiet oar]

You found it?

How you can force it?

[floral reef]

ya

ah well

gonna try

not sure how you'd replicate this in practise though

[junior aurora]

what

[quiet oar]

You can to some degree, but Best to be in voice with the Tank

[floral reef]

gotta do some parkour

[quiet oar]

Ye

[floral reef]

good find though can only imagine how long that took

[junior aurora]

what is this cryptic shit

[balmy condor]

if you're moving grieftorch does more

so outlaw is abusing it with grapple and whatever

[quiet oar]

You can use Sprint to

[junior aurora]

lol

[quiet oar]

You and Mobs need to move

[floral reef]

zoom

[junior aurora]

is it double hitting or something

[quiet oar]

Well you have like 8-12 Hits in aoe

You can up to 90

Like this

Its does like 16 Million dmg

[junior aurora]

[quiet oar]

This Bug exists since s1

Where people already got bugged grieftorch dmg

[balmy condor]

how

you couldn't move with grieftorch in s1

[junior aurora]

^

[quiet oar]

Sennarth

Sliding

[balmy condor]

ah

[quiet oar]

And you were able to use it in fall

Iirc

[pseudo hamlet]

Wait, you're doing more damage the longer distance you move during the cast or what?

I mean with the Grieftorch

[junior aurora]

this might be a blizz fix angle at some point, probably 40/60 odds tho

[balmy condor]

kinda yeah

[junior aurora]

depends on how much it gets abused during mdi

[quiet oar]

I doubt that

Its kinda Hard

In real scenarios

[junior aurora]

boomkin pressing typhoon or something would work wouldnt it

or evoker knockback, mage blast wave

[quiet oar]

Ye but as example neltharus

[rotund oak]

once this goes viral im giving u on the authorities

[quiet oar]

These Mobs cast So much

[rotund oak]

coz im a good citizen

[junior aurora]

neltharus chains stun them

[quiet oar]

Well

They dont move

When they are stunned

Right

[junior aurora]

stun into knockback

[quiet oar]

Its Not a constant movement

[rotund oak]

mobs just need to walk

[junior aurora]

ah

[rotund oak]

and as much stacked as possible

[quiet oar]

There is an thread from. Me in outlaw

Can look in there

Clips are in there too

[junior aurora]

top groups arent gonna run a rogue anyway

gonna be 4 casters and a tank lol

[quiet oar]

Ye

Only tank

May use this

[junior aurora]

easiest for tank too

bc they move the mobs already lol

[rotund oak]

tanks getting tome+torch for m+

[quiet oar]

Ye as dh

Just kite it

[rotund oak]

might outdps casters

[fast stag]

Do you think equipping Ashes of the Embersoul and Manic Grieftorch is good or better to equip just one and take another instead?

[grim jay]

We dont just think it

It is good

[fast stag]

OK thanks !
Can they be used at the same time or not?

[grim jay]

No

Ashes always with your cds

Torch inbetween

Your CDs

[fast stag]

ok nickel thank you very much

[warped kelp]

sin still the weaker spec after buffs?

[neat plank]

weaker for what? I guess it depends on the timings of each individual boss fight

[warped kelp]

weaker as in ppl rather want outlaw or sub over sin in raid and m+

bc numbers mean everything 🙃

[neat plank]

for keys it's always gonna have the issue of being a dot spec, but I really enjoy the aoe silence and I always have good overall dps so I don't really care, I don't feel it negatively affects me, but I'm not going for season title

[bleak sun]

Erk shit vault for both Rogue

[neat plank]

for pug raids you can play anything, they just care about ilvl and curve

and for ultra high keys it always changes whats meta for each season so even if you play outlaw you might be screwed

it took me a while to get invited to +10s last week but I think that was because I only had 510 gear, not ass

[neon oxide]

I'm testing my damage in normal and it feels like beating up toddlers

[opaque oriole]

kingsbane weakaura isnt working for me, when i press solo kingsbane, do you have same issue?

[grim jay]

Why do you press kingsbane alone in the first place

Maybe thats the right question