#assassination
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well nowadays they dont
ahhhh okay okay, i dont have 4 piece yet. But yeah itl tell me to pool well above like 80% or so. Im sure i can also get a WA to help manage what i need to track too
idk how you and other class discord mods have the sanity to just hang in here and answer questions all the time
That was removed
praise be
yes?
Per the dev wasn’t it?
idk with rogue anymore whats intended and what isnt
They actively made class mechanics not work with class spells after legion
they always sneaky hotfix them too
Intended: no one plays it
Unintended: Pedro spam
praise be mantle with moonglaives
I mean I'm gonna be real
But god I love assassination
95% of the time when bugs get fixed
Recklessness draught of souls 
people don't really need to know about it
and if they do, they're degenerates who abused it anyway
but like with deeper
you never played around it
so whats it matter
specter of betrayal
there's a billion things that are broken in the game at any given point in time
the vast vast vast VAST majority
don't impact players
making a note that something got fixed most of the time just confuses people more
cause they would've had to known something was broken in the first place
yeh I mean I woke up with dm's today
asking what bugs I'm referring to in the pins
that got fixed
unless you're super omega on top of the most cutting edge shit
it's really easy to just not notice
man
kihra removing one of my farm sanctum logs
because unintentional dagger kyrian bear bond bug
I was getting double kyrian bonded + nitro sac
for no reason
cause it was unintentional

but they already do more aoe baseline, so for us it could increase dps by, say, 100%, but for them itd only be 50%!
brilliant
if you like outlaw so much why dont you marry it!
honestly crackshot can be fun but it has so many issues
jk. i put offspec on the magmorax fist today and was happy when it went to the enhance for ilvl upgrade
Jealousy is an ugly look xoxo
that why you broke all your mirrors?
No it’s because I’m an ugly ass mf
Proof?
Just ask ur mum
seli cringeposting on a wednesday
today was the day i realized theres mastery runes for weapon
i thought it was crit and haste
but its crit and mastery
and haste
yes
Ngl I was really convinced they would buff us yesterday
cuz they didnt exist in s1
that would be an insane thing to do
Right?
they have a weeks worth of bugged data
considering how s4 patch went so far, that would've made it pretty likely
they nerfed off of bugged data tho 
what did they nerf
Early S3 I was the happiest gnome alive
im jesting, i dont intend to open up that can of worms again
well no shit, the spec was 10% stronger than the next best spec
Exactly
make it the best spec by 100% why stop at 10?
wow players when their spec is overtuned by 10% 🧑🦯
wow players when their spec is undertuned by 4% 
What is a good excuse to tell to the group you leaving after second boss in hardmode
Didn’t get the dagger
just dont say anything?
alt+f4
they will think your internet went out
cuz theyll struggle finding a replacement for sure
i mean giving a fake excuse is toxic too
can they even find one?
why wouldn't they be able to
probably all the casters that want last boss
dunno how exactly the hardmode works
and hunters
if you can just add a new plaer to teh grp
its m0
you can
ye but its like
a special type where you start a new run by talking to the NPC thingy
???????????????
that gives you a special lockout
hm i remember our grp saying smth about it being fucky with re-entering etc. after you leave
but mightve been wrong
either way
dont leave groups 
Thats only for the deathless part
ah fair
as a fresh 70 rogue wanting to try mythic+ for the first time, is assassination THAT bad of a choice for the lower keys? it has the coolest aesthetic to me but i dont wanna be doing 0 dmg cos stuff dies so fast
i know the content doesnt need barely any dmg to get through but still
Just play the Arterial Shock build if things will die fast
ive been following that build from wowhead, i didn't know there was multiple dungeon builds as thats the one listed
There are, but those are for kinda different situations. Typically higher/things living longer keys
okay nice, ty :D
Sin isn't bad in M+, sounds like you're more worried about it than anything. Try a few keys and try all the builds. You'll likely do 0 damage either way because of the "try M+ for the first time" part.
a tier list put sin in D tier which means the spec is due to be deleted
D for DN
We need to abbreviate Deathstalker as DZ
How is Sin doin? been thinking of playing it over Sub
As long as what's fun for you isn't topping the damage meters, you can have lots of fun playing assassination.
But you can put up good numbers if you follow the advice in the pinned post here and in the guides posted on Wowhead and elsewhere.
got a hero track belt from BT last week but i'm supposed to ditch my toxic bewtz :[
Semi reasonable suggestion tbh
DE is disenchant, DS is deeper strat
Dst is daylight saving time 
DZ nuts haha gottem
Banned
its not a good look to be delusional
When you return from whence you came?


I made croque monsieur earlier today, it was banging
God I bet
Love croqu monsier
Reminds me of my goat @verbal mantle
any bet what to swap :3
bomb aren't great right
itll probably be CCT/bomb dispenser though off of ilvl alone
bomb is that bad?
HC felt like normal and mythic felt like HC lol
Kinda meh
I mean they’re all shit
I liked voti tuning better
But out of the shit, bomb is probably the most
It’s only really an eranog ring proccer
A 504 puzzle box was the first trinket i found this season and simmed as a 8k downgrade. But I also had branch for deathhmark still
rip bomb dispenser
ok, how do i know what trinket to swap, if any
Within margin 
Ilvl on that bomb dispenser is carrying though good god
The top one is puzzle/bomb
Which sounds rough
but since its a "-" it means that the dps will be kinda the same? srry, first time using simc
Based
The top is the comparison point, the second on is 114 dps worse than that
But the margin of error is around 120
So
They’re pretty much equal
fucking dogshit trinket lol



why would a 515 ashes sim worse than a 483 branch?
Lack of mastery on gear because you had none because you had a branch. Idk.
I’m just guessing but yeah. Branch made you hard pivot from mastery last season but I never really ran branch cause I hated the mechanic of it.
yeah that's honestly brutal
so
I guess I try to get mastery rings/necks and then ashes becomes better?
I’d guess. Also I’d just run ashes anyways cause branch sucks
truth
Ran arterial tonight. You’re right that shit smacks. I did 500k in nelth 10. Good times.
hard mode timeways got hands
It do
lol wut is this
😉
it pumps
love u too babe ❤️
That’s a shower orang
Is that a bird eating one though? 
You saying ducks can’t have shower orang?
Yeah, especially big ones

Professional Quack Hater more like

It was for a while
it's a duck eating a shower orange
Endwyr is a shower orange enjoyer
Shower hi-chew enjoyer
have you confirmed that for rogue assassination the best dagger is nick of time? even with a lower ilvl?
Seeing as its stated in the pins that it is, i will assume that the answer is yes 
Ah
I didn’t know if that was main hand too. That’s wild
I didn’t wanna answer cause I was unsure
is the worse tier set slot still legs?
well its not main hand 
only OH
mainhand you want the ilvl for the pure dmg
offhand for stats, and nick has best stats because of the timestrike
i dont think there is a "worse" tier set slot for assa, seeing as we like all the stats
its probably gonna come down to your gear i would assume
okay, thank you! I thought so, but i just wanted to double check
That’s what I thought. I’m confused. Luckily I’m not playing my rogue enough this season to chase an offhand for .4% dps
i dont think that there are many who chase that dagger, cause its only 0.4 and feck dawn
that boss isn't worse the chase of that dagger
fortunately now you can abandon your group after the 2nd boss and be done for the week
we had 3 rogues in here that would pug in tanks and healers if we couldn't find friends to help every week in S2
and leave after 2nd boss
many angry messages

we'd sometimes try to gaslight them into thinking it was in the description of the group listing
facts
it didn't really work tho
even more toxic
you and mook left andi just listened to people complain
Americans always the opportunists frfr
what's toxic
is that the damn thing didn't drop until like 2 weeks before season 3

imagine if you guys werent in outlaw loot spec for a month though...
LOL
oooof
No way
Tell me, you werent that type of a duck brain
I didn't loot it at all in s2 but got it in week 4 in s3

I also would join with my guilds tank in s2 and we'd leave after iridikron and he'd make the excuse and then I'd say well tank left gg and bail
also a little rude but I wouldn't be the one leaving first

Warcraft Made Easy

It’s a community. Can’t join the group without being part of it
Have you hit him with the uWu
Yeah. I’ve heard good things about it. But if you get reported for any toxic attitude, you’re like gone or something like that
I'm never toxic in wow
Except this one time in AV last week the shaman healer just ran super far away on first boss and didn't hit any trees
and I just said "????????????"
That's probably toxic
Yeah
It was a 5 and they didn't know the mechanic, so I said "put the cirlce around the trees"
So i was instantly reformed

Well, its a bit toxic
not like hyper toxic
like "What are you goon doing wtf"
Listen it would be one thing if we were in a 0 or heroic but this was a 5 I feel like a reasonable expectation is to know the bosses one mechanic
Ive done LFR, Normal and HC yesterday
and every first try on Rashok
Someone ovoerlapped jump 🙂
Only Difficulty left is Mythic
I'll come make the dream happen for you
vers ring for sin?
still 489 rings
well idk if igira’s has more
Im outlaw 
You are NA
Well as law you get Igira/Rashok ring and Diurnas chosen
i mean any spec that wants vers
Is sin even playing eggnog ring 
Ye, its pretty balanced
i imagine you’d want the diurna ring too
Sin is playing eggnog and broodkeeper rings
I see
just because more ilvl
more stats
free effect
plate dps with their axe that just does fire damage
mean outlaw, 7k vers
sim says go vers enchant
XDD
it's for the keys you do
oh you're doing pvp
what kind of tech you running 36 vers as sin

eranog ring + Brackenhide neck

Green text tech
brackenhide neck isnt even that high vers
its high crit
its like 55/45 in favor of crit
shit is cursed af
all items i dropped this season are vers in some form
watch me buy the pvp neck for outlaw
For me the same but other way around
then get the volc neck
If I don't tell them they're dogshit how will they know they're dogshit 
theyll never know, make sure to let them know!

I need an eranog ring
are you suggesting harassment rn armin
well mythic dungeon weekly can award it

no its called constructive criticism.
itll help them be locked in
in the future
trust
right
none of the above
im more concerned wtf im gonna do next week
play sub on tindral with a 489 ashes?

uh oh
lolool
only problem with citizen divers is that they're 43mm cases 
also wcl not flagging rogue logs
with tier bug abuse
we not relevant enough for them
You are a dust hater armin, the only thing that makes sub interesting 
jokes aside,the less worse than the 2 is blue
green is like wearing a carpet

dust is cool
could grab green casio
cooking up cds for 3 tiers
then blue citizen
is not however

Thats why i play Outlaw except the last three of Amidrassil

or 1
or 0
seriously wondering wtf im gonna do next week
flag is just permanent, no more cd
my sub gear is behind
dust is cool -> if it helps me align cds
kir on st
dust isnt cool -> if i have to make an ert note for every boss cuz my entire kit is desynced and im gettign space aids if my team pushes 5 seconds too early
i would buy anything close to black tbh or ''darker''
Just adapt
but thats just me

just play db build

cant bro, i delay this shit by 10 seconds, 6 dances later stealthi shows up and slaps me
its fucked up
stealthi doesnt even play wow now bro
slap stealthi irl
u are good
did he quit
i swear
Id let stealthi slap me
I have some darker ones. There's not THAT many subtle options for more dive watches unless you go full black/stainless
what about me :3
i think stainless is a nice middle ground but it has to be good u know,its something u push money on
welp u know what snitches get
Kiss him
:3 maybe
so he regrets it
:3
:3
I definitely can
Armin and Stealthi double team on Whisp

Snap my fingers like thanos
Thanspyr


You’re okay tira, don’t show up to #tww-assassination

Im banned now from TWW-Assa
Good
You’re saved from tww-assa
Someone has to carry on Scanas testament
aint no way whispyr litearlly said : you're cool dont come to school tmrw
aint no way bro

Well thats one way to look at that 
Mad?
@blazing jewel miss u babe
I hope mochi is okay with dad gone

could sense some lower forms of life talking about me
if stealthi not playing
who is doing the cds sheet
RUN ARMIN
OR KISS HIM
eyoooo?>
There's always someone talking about you wdym
mochis got his own little room with gramma
hes vibing
actually how do you people cook cds without logs already showing
i dont get it, im really not that interesting
a little, and jealous, can you kiss me and make it go away?
just make shit up?
i use this thing called a brain
Same
you know the generally timings of the boss beforehand all the time
with this week?
i mean in a few weeks, he may be shitposting again
just in time for TWW
not as much besides look at other peoples logs
im promoting racoons all over RH wdym
u are famous
i couldve literally updated the sheey for all 3 raids
As long as it’s not in tww-assa
:3
:3
the night they told us it was fated
Scana would never
arent kill times not the same as when it was current
I will smite scana where he stands with the might of a god if he comes to shitpost
timings dont really change, its only bosses with % phasing
or the secret db tech on council
and those you can easily ball park
doenst scana like that
just dont copy armins build for it
hes real for that
then DB is fine depending on the kill timer
how does 1 dust work
same as DB basically
Thats the neat part
its good, it helps u cover all of blades with sod
also gives u db which is a generally strong node
and 1 more point of finality
wow, what lovely assassination conversation
which is also strong
you talked about me Whispyr this is your fault
thank you, i pride myself on stayting on topic in sin channels
my raccoon senses was tingling
I have to condition you guys
gonna frame this and put it on my wall
before I bring out the actual baseball bat in #tww-assassination

whispyr do you have a macro that auto yells at a priest for PIng you too early
no
that doesnt sound bad tbh but is it rly competitive?
nah tmrw, when deathstalkers release, i will be cooking, imma cook so hard gordon ramseys gonna make a tik tok on it
we'll be famous
if its not deathstalker, DK might be committing jihad
i was 🤏 close to timing someone out yesterday for just blatantly ignoring me telling them to stop spamming logs
wait hol up
On Topic 
could be fatebound
im joining DK! inshallah
lol fatebound
but like nah, i legit cant see how they can make something for both sin and outlaw
outlaw hero tree = its gonna be shit cus its outlaw related
or shadowstep
that shit sounds more cursed than sub/outlaw
thats why trickster and fatebound suck 
Shadowstep has a maintenance buff 💀
damn what a bunch of optimistic people we got in here
nah im turbo vibing for deathstalker
shadowstep is sub only now
big glass half full on that one
jk
what tank dps does to mf's
Whispyr, might as well rename the channel back to "Doomblade"
okay doomblade goes so hard though
why did all 3 specs get sepsis back
Koffing or whisp will come to your hsoe and kidnap you
no one liked it
koffing doesnt play rogue


I got u lil bro. when you press snd, your next bone spike gives cps based on how many cps u spent on snd.
woops my bad
burnt the kitchen
like idk bonespike was one of the bettee cov abiliies
sepsis was garbanzo
flag is a sub ability
maybe they rework it and make it cooler, Realz did mention that theres a bloat of cov abilities in the rogue trees
during shadowlands they were complex systems with a lot of little things backing them up, but now theyre just flat, boring and out of place.
realz should troll dh players
so makes sense to do some pruning.
i mean they got the whole meme there
wdym, momentum and throw glaive as rotational abilitys is allready a thing

momentum is fine
Throwglaive being rotational is fine, just not with the amount of button presses they have right now, waaaay to much resource gen
wow, what lovely assassination conversation
rogue still has all 4
they say that all the time and do the opposige, just Look at arms lol
did you play assa?
but they cant really know how itll turn out
honestly ER feels out of place for sin
On Topic 
like the steps tehy took was in that direction
yeah buddy
but then people always find ways
Solo tried that too, and you can imagine how that went
🥹
solo is too much of a softie to just slam mutes though
:)
Also true, but we still love him 
ive managed to make solo furious yday by insulting his tmog
tompelvis is the best
told him he makes cringe look normal
zac has decent mogs yea
he sucks
current best mog is on Ruby's dwarf
but i like stealthi's mog too
but raz is better
isnt raz still the nelf herr
itage armor?
yeah plays a NE so its the mog king race
i wana go back ne
tompelvis aka "half-man half
" aka "the man with 1000 mouths" aka "zeross"
vat
velf has spoopy hair
cool stealth pose
I aint broke so I don't care about paying for mogs

ON TOPIC GAMING
On Topic 
on topic 
imp garrote doesnt matter, ask whisp, get rekt, on topic. were so back


full set 
yeah asmons gonna be under this dudes bed tonight
yeah im basic af
okay if fatebound comes out, which channel gets slowmode first? sin or outlaw?
any betters?
I think we know
bros underestimating the boomers
Like in the time where 1 message in Assa was sent, there are already 100 doom posts in outlaw
Listen not everyone has s1 elite pvp set. I gotta show off the rarity
bros got 0.8 sec typing icd
Also I wanted something to match leggo daggers
outlaw players smh
Thats why i use CM set 
legion elite sets
I wish I did pve in mop
Cool looking dragon on your shoulders
or pvp cosmetics
Despite the fact that they’re there
hard part about CM as rogue was, getting a group to carry you through it
woah woah watch it buddy
Becasue rogue was dogshit in CM
you might upset 30-something year olds
i mean cata elite sets were good
This IS the boomer channel
and those are older
I’m 33 and still awake 
its 9 am????
They already in the supermarket
purchasing their weekly supplies
Why didn’t you? 
On topic 

so they get to the store by 9 am
I turned 34 2 weeks ago
it's time for bedge
its a full on road trip every morning

That’s fucked up calling zac zeross
maybe because most pre-WoD sets look like dogshit, and the Elite sets are dogshit with glowing shoulders?
tompelvis is zeross
ruthless elite looked cool
Oh we should wish zac happy birthday today
the one with the big shoulder
people wear all sorts of ugly shit because its slightly rare and they think it gives them clout
especially pvpers
thats a time honored tradition there
well
people who only mog t3

might be the push they need
had a OMG SCARABLORD in a group once
played like how you would expect a classic andy to play, floor PoV warrior
I want you all, to post one "
", when armin will do Seppuku tomorrow
with posting that gif
when the time comes, i will do what must be done
croque monsieur lovers united
only the real ones know
When I worked nights I would get one when I got out of work for months 🤝
the best comfort food I swear
esp when made with béchamel 

i got ham, i got cheese, i got butter, flour, kosher salt and pepper. we make croque monsieur with béchamel at whispyrs house. party time

croque monsieur 😍
This channel is already dead, you dont have to shoot a corpse
Hey what is bullion spend prio for assa?
Prolly to outlaw
no.
SHOWER ORANGE DUCK 
I have a ton of crit on my gear, anyone know if it'd be worth envenoming at 3 cp to avoid munching going for 4+?
Is it normal that in my sims, agility has the same stat weight as crit/mastery/vers ? Is it due to the Ashes trinket that gives a ton of agility ?
what was the command for faq
Might be but we don't really care about stats weight afaik, that's why they were removed from raidbots
Or at least moved somewhere because I don't see them there
it s in the little arrow next to the others, i was struggling to find them as well
Yeah it doesn't matter. You just sim your gear and pick the best choices, that's it

!faq
damn
how do i find that link
i wanna read about the holding 5+ combo points during that like
dead zone of just auto attacking
and not clicking envenom
or if there's a weakaura that tells me when to hold
if i knew how that shit is called i could find it myself
Pooling
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Written Guides
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ok i found this from whispyr
this should be good yes?
Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back
- If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
- Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
- Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
- With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use
as well
tysm
You still found them though, they didn’t hide them good enough
on the wowhead guide Seal of Diurna's Chosen is higher on the list over Cruel Dreamcarver
does that mean that the ring gives more overall damage
or what
i mean the dagger isnt worth anything
its just a dagger
the special effect is for flavor
at the moment i have 2 Ornamental Drakonid Claw
from diurna
wait the special effect doesn't actually do damage
or what
bruh are you fucking kidding me
Like 3% reduced damage taken from a specific element
ring it is
Raidbots -> Droptimizer -> Season 4 Raid Vendors -> upgradfe up to 14/14
download simulationcraft addon
Use simc addon, not the armory
aye okay ty
armoury is forever giga bugged, blizzard basically stopped doing much with it about 10 years ago
it was working just fine for entire dragonflight so far
no issues whatsoever
this is the first time
that you know of
😭
But Simulationcraft addon pulls exactly what you're wearing/spec/in your bags and should always be the go to
Simulationcraft does next to nothing in terms of memory usage
i keep forgetting to update my add-ons
so i forever get the popups for addon crashes

1st on realm out of 7 sin rogues in the world
hurts that its accurate
#1 is still #1
still big !
i also have a flex myself
i hit 1mil damage yesterday
im halls
on aoe
i was really fucking proud of myself
still no set at all btw
how do you have 0 set
because i have 1hc item chest
set
and i have 2 catalyst charges
and i cant make myself turn a normal item into tier
i was busy past 2 weeks couldn't farm keys for hc gear
If I had 0 set I would slam 2x normal items in catalyst just to get that
having no set feels so bad
I both love and hate having tier back, the first week or two feel so rough till you get 4 set









