assassination

[junior aurora]

gg specs fucked best button on the talent tree is the change specializations one rn

[balmy condor]

If we’re playing for council then it makes EVEN LESS sense to take vicious and drop arterial

[fleet coral]

still better than some talents :p

[balmy condor]

You would want to take CT as well

And carnage

And like

Basically just full m+ that shit

[fleet coral]

wait i didn't saw bottom of the tree ahahah

[balmy condor]

I mean there’s many things wrong

But yeh

[fleet coral]

thats correct bud go on even you can use it for terros to

It works better both single and cleave you made your perfect haybrid talents

👍

[clever sapphire]

wasnt it take out improved poisons and dashing for bonespike? (for general st build with spike, not council build)

[balmy condor]

Yes

But that build linked also took out master assassin and internal bleeding and arterial and took vicious venoms

In general the rule for making an assassination tree

Is 1. Don’t take vicious venom

2. Good enough

[clever sapphire]

aight i will just take out the 2 i said and run with it on sunday

i just miss pressing bonespike

even if its shit

[fleet coral]

wait we still not using caustic ?

still bonespike ? 😦

[clever sapphire]

huh

[balmy condor]

What

[clever sapphire]

i just said spike is shit

[fleet coral]

did the smallest indie company still can't solve the problem in 1 week

ah

okay

i just confused sry

[junior aurora]

i mean in this case its probably actually like 3 people working on the season again lol

[balmy condor]

With the bug right now, bone spike is like 1.5-2% better

But it’s an extra button and you’re already a loser playing assassination with the bug

So

Make that decision for yourself

[clever sapphire]

btw whispyr will you update your "Season 4 awakened info bonanza spectacular" post with the nick of time dagger for 522 ilvl?

[fleet coral]

playing sub better than %50 more

just missed my sin sometimes...

[indigo ginkgo]

can you post a pin with a single target buidl without the bugged talents till they fixe it ?

[fleet coral]

yep pin some for when they fix purizu 😦

[balmy condor]

I could, but I don’t recommend playing it

So

I won’t do that

[fleet coral]

no dust go on

thats the solution till they fixed

[clever sapphire]

i can already see how after the fix people would ask why bonespike is bad now and why we take X talent again when it does less dmg

and it would be a headache for a week atleast

[balmy condor]

If you want to optimize around a bug that’s fixed literally any hour now, then it’s left as an exercise for the reader

But Im not gonna recommend a build that creates more confusion and headache for minimal gain if at all

I played it on like 2 bosses

And it was actually awful

[indigo ginkgo]

well they fixed feral already

[clever sapphire]

whispyr said bonespike is awful, i cant (jk i know he hates it(jk im dumb))

[fleet coral]

can't be bad as sepsis and no kb meta but i agreed

[glass root]

XD

[indigo ginkgo]

we on the shit list has well so you right

[balmy condor]

I don’t hate bone spike

I played bone spike for most of shadowlands

🤨

[glass root]

whispyr is like look at how he massacared my booy

[clever sapphire]

corrected my correction

[balmy condor]

I think the two major mistakes they made with the talent trees

[junior aurora]

keeping sepsis and er you’re right bestie

[balmy condor]

Is moving the covenant abilities forward

And dance on the class tree

The covenant abilities were neat

And they were fun

But they should’ve stayed in shadowlands

[junior aurora]

flag can stay for sub

[fleet coral]

is sepsis looks fun to you

is confusing af

[balmy condor]

Sepsis is fun yeah

[fleet coral]

😦

[clever sapphire]

the biggest mistake i see with bonespike is its placement. Its competing with imp garrote and it requiries you to take an additional point into doomblade

[balmy condor]

I mean it’s kinda bigger than that, bonespike just doesn’t fit into the rotation

[fleet coral]

yep it destorys and 100x fun against sepsis

[balmy condor]

We have one of the longest ramps in the game

Bone spike on top of that, in cleave situations

Forget it

It’s a charge system and it gives combo points for cleaving

But that’s the situation it’s least useable in

[fleet coral]

season 1 we used it already

[royal lantern]

sbs is "here, ambush with 3 charges and you wanna use 1 charge early"

its soooo fucking akward

[balmy condor]

Even before the rework when we played bone spike, we talented out of it for aoe

[clever sapphire]

aye i wouldnt mind if they made bonespike worth in aoe but not ST, it was the most enjoyable for aoe anyways in SL for me

[fleet coral]

wait , what when ?

[glass root]

so we just swap out dashing and sanguine for doomblade into bonespike

[fleet coral]

never used on amirdrassil

[balmy condor]

The only way that’s possible would be if it was off the gcd

[clever sapphire]

ye i dont see that happening

[balmy condor]

Okay I need you to think really hard here. Was amirdrassil before or after the rework

[clever sapphire]

what if it got its legendary effect? aka 2 spikes and 5 stacks

[balmy condor]

That would make the rotational problems even worse

[clever sapphire]

[balmy condor]

People already struggle juggling garrote and rupture and ct and envenom

Add bone spike in

[fleet coral]

1 month before...

hmm

[balmy condor]

Amirdrassil was after the rework

[indigo ginkgo]

double silk is the way right ?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[glass root]

i wish they added b onespike legendary

😦

[fleet coral]

yep saying same things wrong side :p

[balmy condor]

For all content

[glass root]

it was so fun in keys back in shadowlansd

[balmy condor]

Yeah but it doesn’t work with assassination now

[clever sapphire]

okay thats fair and tru

bonespike was neat for the playstyle assa had in SL

[balmy condor]

Like bone spike just doesn’t have a place in the spec anymore

[royal lantern]

its really just filler rn

[balmy condor]

Doomblade was nerfed super hard from the original legendary effects in order to act as a dampening point for bone spike and sepsis

But sepsis and bone spike need to be removed and replaced

Doomblade should either get the old effect back

Or also get replaced

[fleet coral]

only thing i know about assa everything nerfed and everything going to be nerfed

[vestal wren]

+1 for a sepsis purge

[glass root]

anyone else having 4piece bugged?

[vestal wren]

ironically, i think its not too bad on assassiantion

[balmy condor]

How many pieces of tier did you equip from each season

They don’t mix and match

[royal lantern]

too this day i dont understand why they made sepsis in the spec trees for all specs

[glass root]

i know , im 4pieces on new season

[clever sapphire]

wouldnt mind it, i enjoyed sepsis when i used it in S4 of SL and during dps increase phases

[glass root]

my guildies hae 4 pieces from new seaso nas well but its not working

[vestal wren]

time

[royal lantern]

why is it not in the class tree then at that point lol

[glass root]

mostly mages and paladins

[fleet coral]

R.I.P vendetta i should quit when it is gone

[balmy condor]

Hm

Haven’t heard of that

[junior aurora]

deathmark >>>>> vendetta tho?

[fleet coral]

for pvp definetly no

[junior aurora]

vendetta is boring as hell

[balmy condor]

Wouldn’t surprise me though if shit was bugged, the entire season is a bug

[clever sapphire]

sepsis over dance in class tree

im down

[old thistle]

imagine if they turned it to a self buff

that boosts all your poisons , bleeds

[clever sapphire]

hunters removing my bleeds in keys with scattershot scarred me, now i always check what a hunter has talented before a key

[balmy condor]

Go back to hammer of wrath

That’s some paladin shit

With wings giga buff

[fleet coral]

bruw

like shadowblades

[glass root]

shit

[old thistle]

not what im saying here though

[balmy condor]

If deathmark was a self-buff it would be insane

[fleet coral]

sometimes i hardly breath when my team focused my deathmarked target...

there is the gamble that even so risky than outlaw dices

[old thistle]

it could be smth along the lines of , your bleeds tick faster while its up and they do extra crit dmg

[royal lantern]

ITS EXSANG TIME BABY

[balmy condor]

No no no

[junior aurora]

Hell yea

[balmy condor]

Not faster

[clever sapphire]

deathmark as a self buff "all your bleeds that you put out during the duration now duplicates itself"

[balmy condor]

Not again

[junior aurora]

Imagine the aoe we could do

[royal lantern]

exsang is like crabs, everything eventualy evolves into it

[fleet coral]

exsang..

[royal lantern]

🦀

[fleet coral]

missed it

[junior aurora]

all these afflocks complaining that blizz is doubling down on malefic rapture gonna wish they had malefic rapture when blizz gives them exsang

[fleet coral]

another most fun mech they killed

[balmy condor]

We went from vendetta to deathmark being twice as strong to aoe deathmark. Weren’t we complaining about being too cooldown dependent like a week ago

[old thistle]

anyone remember the bonespike exang bug

[junior aurora]

give me aoe deathmark i can be trusted with it

[vestal wren]

most of the suggestions people bring would make specs overpowered

[clever sapphire]

i was jsut memeing on the self buff dm

[junior aurora]

kingsbane can only go on one target anyway its balanced i swear

[royal lantern]

well, yeha

[vestal wren]

"what if secret techniques had no cooldown"

[balmy condor]

I don’t think you’ll find anyone agreeing with you on that

[fleet coral]

We forgot the green toxic blades

[vestal wren]

"what if you had 100% shadow dance uptime"

[junior aurora]

i liked toxic blade

but we still have that

its called shiv now

[fleet coral]

nope

not an extra button is

xD

[glass root]

i hated exangu

[balmy condor]

Most people did

[glass root]

like i honestly did it was so freaking not wanted

[royal lantern]

i just use a /use Shiv macro with the toxic blade icon

[balmy condor]

Exsanguinate was one of the worst designed and jankiest cooldowns they’ve ever added

[fleet coral]

best advice i've ever heard today

[clever sapphire]

i loved exsang, especially when i accidentally pressed it after dm and my dmg went into the dumpster

[fleet coral]

ahahha

right 😄

really dm killer 😄

[jade abyss]

True true

[clever sapphire]

i also remember pressing it after dm on purpose in keys so i would get the nature dmg buff faster

[vestal wren]

exsang with a long cooldowns was okay-ish, low cooldown was quite bad tho

[junior aurora]

you didnt like 45s exsang?

Crazy

[balmy condor]

Remember to press your galecaller before exsang, and then you can walk out of the circle because it’s all snapshot and your damage is just going because ????? But then your mage lusted late and you didn’t actually get the benefit because you already snapshot and your vita trinket procced after

[glass root]

guys help me on trinket choosing for dathea and im staying on boss

[vestal wren]

i still have a galecallers wa on wago

[fleet coral]

i'm not saying its great okay but imagine using 4th sd kb with exsang c'mon guys

[junior aurora]

i miss bfa assa

[jade abyss]

In my opinion 3 min cooldowns are ass

[balmy condor]

45s exsang was actually a circle of hell

[fleet coral]

it isn't sounds fun

[clever sapphire]

you wanna give me nightmares dont you

[royal lantern]

what about proccing the haste corruption????

[jade abyss]

Missing echoing blades

[junior aurora]

was rogue even good in 8.3 actually

[balmy condor]

Yes

Insanely

[jade abyss]

It was a good time back in the days

[fleet coral]

echoing reprimand confusing than exsang

[glass root]

which one for dathea guys

[fleet coral]

i still don't know what the anima combo

[junior aurora]

i played mage in 8.3 so i set my details to only show top 1

[balmy condor]

You’re actually smoking crack

[fleet coral]

acting like nothing happened

[balmy condor]

That’s one of the most insane things

I have ever seen in this discord

[clever sapphire]

people saying something is more confusing than exsang usually dont know how exsang worked (neither do I)

[glass root]

heeelp :x

[balmy condor]

Explaining that you need to finish on the blue combo point being is fine

You tell them how snapshotting works

And their brain actually explodes

[junior aurora]

wdym it just made your bleeds faster it cant ve that confusing

[balmy condor]

Ashes and signet

[junior aurora]

whatever ur heart decides, your on st duty

[clever sapphire]

ashes and your second highest simming trinket

would be my choice

[balmy condor]

Augury sucks, pips sucks, sandglass sucks, branch sucks, spiteful storm sucks, bottled wind sucks, I’ve never seen that purple crystal thing before in my life so that sucks too

[glass root]

AShes and spiteful ?

[fleet coral]

tank trinket gives life :p

[balmy condor]

Do not use spiteful

It’s so finicky with kill times

[clever sapphire]

isnt spiteful like signet? kinda good on long fights

[balmy condor]

Yeah until it isn’t lmao

[clever sapphire]

[balmy condor]

It reduces its own proc rate with longer fights

[glass root]

i feel like spiteful only good on rasza

[clever sapphire]

so its a worse signet

[glass root]

kekw

[balmy condor]

It’s signet but on really long fights it’s bad again

[fleet coral]

suffering and signet were good passive options and the embersoul imo

but i saw ppls with grieftorch

[balmy condor]

Grieftorch would be the best second trinket

[clever sapphire]

grieftorch ftw

[fleet coral]

yep it is

[glass root]

whats suffering ?

[royal lantern]

i got the kurog trinket last Raid

[clever sapphire]

my guild likes griefing, so i just torch the boss

[royal lantern]

didnt sim yet

[balmy condor]

Nelth trinket

[fleet coral]

just ppls like me don't like secondary actives

[royal lantern]

but it was good in S1 iirc

[clever sapphire]

according to whispyrs wowhead trinket list, it sucks

[royal lantern]

nobody likes 2 actives

[balmy condor]

I don’t mind it

[royal lantern]

can you translate that into tier list terms?

[clever sapphire]

puzzlebox and grieftorch without moving 👻

[junior aurora]

i can get away with 2 passives on frost this season its actually incredible

[royal lantern]

D tier or Swamp Ass Tier?

[junior aurora]

but then the weapon has an active so its moot

[fleet coral]

i'll never use puzzle again

[clever sapphire]

with my ethical knowledge and very smart takes, C

C for c(s)im it and decide

[balmy condor]

I think it’s a lot more interesting than having the 27th season in a row with 2 min on-use that gives insert stat and whatever thing gives the biggest number of insert stat

[glass root]

isnt that decent for m+

but not ST

[fleet coral]

ah

so rng

[balmy condor]

It’s kinda meh in single target but it’s usable

[fleet coral]

sometimes that space guy cames with your 1min cd

[balmy condor]

Obviously you don’t have one right now cause it hasn’t been awakened Aberrus

[fleet coral]

i have it

tw

[balmy condor]

No you don’t lmao

[clever sapphire]

i enjoy suffering trinket because i finally get hugged

[fleet coral]

me

i am

[balmy condor]

If you have one it’s like 430 item level

[junior aurora]

timewalking cache whispyr

[fleet coral]

nope 515

[junior aurora]

you can get a hero track very rare from that

[fleet coral]

heroic grade

[balmy condor]

Fuck this season man

What a clown fiesta

[fleet coral]

yes

[vestal wren]

[clever sapphire]

i got my 4th belt from tw cache

[fleet coral]

and ppls have ashes + grieftorch

[clever sapphire]

5th from black temple quest

i have 5 belts

[fleet coral]

i saw many ppls 😄

[clever sapphire]

FIVE BELTS

[glass root]

im craftin my belet

and going double blue silken for swapping sub as well

[clever sapphire]

my second char also got a belt, im cursed to only get the belt

[glass root]

i got tank trinket from tw 😄

[fleet coral]

if isn't hurts :p

[balmy condor]

Thank god I’m not taking this season seriously

[clever sapphire]

are you farming dawn for dagger?

[balmy condor]

Fuck no

[clever sapphire]

on hardmode for hero track dagger

[balmy condor]

I’m making sure my guild gets all the fyrakk mounts and then I’m logging the fuck out until I get alpha/beta are you insane

[clever sapphire]

if the purple guy that i trust the most isnt farming it than neither will i

[glass root]

let me in your guild ? :/

[junior aurora]

purple guy would be farming it if he was playing this season for real tho

[clever sapphire]

but he isnt

[royal lantern]

you are a kingdom hearts character now

[clever sapphire]

never played that

[royal lantern]

4+ belts is the norm

[balmy condor]

Purple guy would be farming it if it wasn’t a meme season yeah

But it is

And it’s somehow even worse than the original fated season in shadowlands

Which is really impressive cause that was fucking awful

[clever sapphire]

i will have multiple kingdom hearts chars if thsi keeps up, second rogue also already got 2 belts

[clever sapphire]

wdym i liked fated season (well the m+ was fun and the seasonal affix)

[balmy condor]

Fated actually killed so many guilds

Was crazy

I wonder if it’ll happen again this expac

[clever sapphire]

i could see it

[balmy condor]

But in shadowlands at least people didn’t understand that burnout exists

And you just saw guild after guild

Over and over

[clever sapphire]

just wait till tindral and fyrakk are back

[balmy condor]

Officers would burn out, scream at each other over nothing

Guild burns to the ground

Every week you heard about 2-3 guilds

[junior aurora]

M+ was fun in fated season

[balmy condor]

That just shattered

[fleet coral]

drama is my dinner

[junior aurora]

but if you were a raider only

yikes

[clever sapphire]

ye my guild also disbanded in fated

i also left cause they only wanted to touch castle, and i hated castle

but that was the only raid they got past the 3rd boss

[junior aurora]

i think i did each raid on normal once to get the mount fated season lol

[fleet coral]

lul in the voti my guild can't kill terros 3 weeks and disbanded

that's the weirdest thing i've ever seen

[royal lantern]

tbf, current goal in the guild is "yeha, we do 2x for the first 2 weeks, and then 1x raid a week for recruitment/trial purposes, and when all raids are open grab fyrakk mount for the peeps that dont have it"

whic is overall very reasonable

[junior aurora]

well if you spent 3 weeks on terros you were gonna spend a month+ on every boss past that

[balmy condor]

I mean if you like m+ the game is always fun, cause you have to be delusional enough to enjoy running the same dungeons on loop every day, sit through a 2 hour pug queue, and then for fated shadowlands you come back with a smile on your face and do it again with the same dungeons the next season

Dragonflight at least kinda separated them a bit

[junior aurora]

fated shadowlands was separate dungeons

checkmate

[fleet coral]

believe me if there is a 4th week that guild depletes it too

[balmy condor]

Yeah and they all sucked lmao

[junior aurora]

they all sucked but id still rather run them than theater of pain again lmao

[fleet coral]

karazhan too

don't you like that tower

[balmy condor]

Cope

[fleet coral]

Eye of command

[junior aurora]

spires of ascension can burn in hell too

[balmy condor]

Karazhan is fine

[clever sapphire]

kara was fun

[fleet coral]

yep

my favourite dungeon of entire game

[junior aurora]

megadungeons were fine, grimrail depot was not

[fleet coral]

its mega and two parts are sperately fun

[clever sapphire]

tazavesh was soooo much better than dawn

i agree on grimrail

[junior aurora]

dawn is a cool dungeon the first time on m0

[jade abyss]

Everything was better than dawn

[junior aurora]

dawn is miserable as a m+ dungeon

[balmy condor]

I kinda disagree with that tbh

[fleet coral]

tazavesh yeah market is fine but

[junior aurora]

upper tazavesh was cool, streets rp needed to be pruned

[fleet coral]

other one trash

[royal lantern]

the fking gromash/anduin fight

jesus christ its so bs

[balmy condor]

Tazavesh is in my bottom 3 dungeons honestly

[junior aurora]

did your group do it wrong

[balmy condor]

There was nothing redeeming about it

[clever sapphire]

im a fan of murlocs

[royal lantern]

i hate m+, you think i have a group?

[clever sapphire]

so they got me there

[junior aurora]

ah yes pugging rise is not the wave

for future you have to bait the frontals to the edge bc if he hits the adds with it he does a lot more damage

[clever sapphire]

ah yes pugging rise is not the wave

[fleet coral]

it isn't mega one yes but sometimes i miss court of stars when i go to farm gul'dan

[clever sapphire]

corrected it for you

[royal lantern]

i know

[balmy condor]

Yeh I mean upper taza was just a mess of old mechanics but worse, lower taza was an uninspired clusterfuck of mini bosses

[junior aurora]

court was actually the worst s1 dungeon

but maybe thats bc thundering existed? Idk the camera boss in there was insane too

[clever sapphire]

now that i think about it, the only part i remember about taza is the musical boss and the murlocs

so maybe i didnt enjoy it that much

[balmy condor]

[fleet coral]

i'm not into taza too much :/

[junior aurora]

murlocs were memorable bc you could actually pull big

[fleet coral]

yep veiled market not bad but

[junior aurora]

the only other dungeon you could pull big in in SL was halls of atonement lol

[balmy condor]

The fun part of mythic+ that blizzard keeps trying their best to remove yep

[fleet coral]

other one like any classic dungeon

[junior aurora]

yeah i hate how they massacred freehold

err

waycrest manor

[fleet coral]

eww wm

[clever sapphire]

bracken currently gives me murloc part vibes, big pulls with minimal kicks. But feck the trees in bracken, give me back my kicks on those frontals THAT DONT ALIGN WITH THE VISUAL

[fleet coral]

i have traumas

at +30 wm

[junior aurora]

bc they made that dungeon suck

[balmy condor]

They were so mad about big pulls that they capped every spec in the game and when that didn’t stop people from giga pulls they added unavoidable mechanics to every mob pack in the game

[junior aurora]

it wasnt that bad in bfa

[balmy condor]

Shits insane

They’re so hell bent on making m+ miserable

[junior aurora]

its like if you’re gonna put all these kicks and shit in

remove affixes

[fleet coral]

but in season 3 unfortunately best dungeons are doti ones

[junior aurora]

just do a seasonal affix, like rotate thru awakened/reaping/the 9.3 one

[royal lantern]

cus they want m+ to be the wow version of "league of legends SoloQ"

[balmy condor]

I mean remove the timer honestly, they balance m+ around being able to just survive shit now

[junior aurora]

yeah the amount of keys a timer decides for a normal group is so low now

[balmy condor]

You either stomp the dungeon and the timer doesn’t matter

[fleet coral]

atleast half of the way they did 😄

[balmy condor]

Or you wipe to a boss you used lust on

And now the boss is unkillable

And you disband

[junior aurora]

very rare that you miss a dungeon by a few seconds, and if you do the next time you do that dungeon you are timing it

[fleet coral]

yep

[balmy condor]

M+ is so unfun to me now because of that shit

Like pushing to make the timer and finding ways to save time and pull bigger and do more damage and optimize around that

Fun

[junior aurora]

opening weeks of a season are the only time a timer matters and people are playing for gear instead anyway

[fleet coral]

but it is the only challenge is time for now

they can make it like soulslike game yeah

[balmy condor]

But when m+ is just “oh healer got targeted by an un-kickable mechanic twice in a row, unlucky, hearth out we go other key”

Bro get me out

Lmao

[fleet coral]

i can't say i like doing m+

[junior aurora]

tbf thats a problem with encounter design bc of defensive bloat

[fleet coral]

only for weekly vault

[junior aurora]

solve the defensive problem and design more manageable mechanic damage and that can go away

[fleet coral]

8 keys +20 were okay

[clever sapphire]

ye gonna take them till 12.1

to fix the defensive problem

maaaaybe

[junior aurora]

at least they acknowledged it is a problem recently

[balmy condor]

Idk if it’s defensive bloat as much as it’s just every mob having some shit that will obliterate you even with CDs up

[fleet coral]

maybe delves solve that problem

at last there is content i can do alone

ofc i think its gonna be supercasual shit but still makes me happy

[junior aurora]

delves are gonna be too easy probably

[royal lantern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/600818554996260875/1232786237866377226/1.png?ex=662cb367&is=662b61e7&hm=f8ccebf26206062c5fc521794534c8402bb3faed6d073f6aef2c58f70041a85e&

fun

[balmy condor]

Yeh

Ain’t no defensive bloat fixing that

I think defensive bloat is definitely something to talk about if they decide to design encounters differently

But it’s an encounter design issue first, and defensives have to fit into that mold

[glass root]

whatdo you mean by bloat?

[balmy condor]

Not the other way around

[junior aurora]

ideally you work on both in tandem

[junior aurora]

some classes are way tankier than others

[balmy condor]

Yeh

[junior aurora]

specs even, outlaw is way tankier than assa

[fleet coral]

how ?

[junior aurora]

massive uptime on evasion + elusiveness

also cdr on their other defensives

[royal lantern]

yeha like, said it to rylo 1h ago

did a +8 nokund with guild mates yesterday

endboss, heal priest got targeted by the spear, used all his deffensives and got 1hit killed trought them

them the warlock got the next spear, pressed dark pact and loses not even 30% hp

what

[uneven summit]

What trinkets are peeps aiming for in S4 atm? Ashes+Manic double use?

[clever sapphire]

ashes/grief for raid, ashes/boon for m+

[uneven summit]

fair

[fleet coral]

longer fights you can go with cataclysmic

with ashes of course

[lavish jasper]

Boys, we want Beasts for cruel dreamcarver right?

[uneven summit]

was considering ashes/nelth for passive+use but maybe that´s just me :p

[clever sapphire]

also works, but grief just gets so much value

[uneven summit]

yeah grief and boon are insane for sure

[fleet coral]

me too but suffering is rng and meh tier for raiding

[clever sapphire]

and also even 1 death can make it even better

but nelth for a passive in m+ is also what i might run in lower target count keys (over boon)

[balmy condor]

I mean ideally you work on both in tandem sure, like path of exile has its own meta game around defensives and building around them. I think it’s probably healthier to have something more in that direction where defensives stand on their own as a choice to build with talents, similar to elusiveness now, but like 3 more layers. Then you have the encounter design work stuff in that makes those decisions count. The other way is you make encounters and then make the defensives generically fit into that. But I don’t see a tandem world happening otherwise, cause it would require redesigning so much shit and redoing literally dozens of dungeons

[balmy condor]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[balmy condor]

None of the choices are dps

[royal lantern]

critter is chad choice

[balmy condor]

Just pick whatever you think is neat

Usually it’s giant or mechanical

Some people played dragonkin for fast

But it’s pretty much a pointless discussion cause the impact is so low

[lavish jasper]

Ty!

[fleet coral]

yep imagine walking on waters

[clever sapphire]

technically critter is a dps choice, it may be a negative one, but it is

i will see myself out

[fleet coral]

with elemental dagger buff if drop from heights to water can it kills me ?

[balmy condor]

Critter this season is actually questionable if it’s a dps choice, cause there’s a good chance it’s within margin of error

[balmy condor]

Yes

[fleet coral]

woahh broken buff

it kills you even you drop on water sugoii

[clever sapphire]

btw is the giant fixed?

i remember it not giving anything for the longest time

[balmy condor]

Idk

I thought it did

[clever sapphire]

i will just check when i get home, i still have the dagger i think

but where do i find a giant

[royal lantern]

djardin?

[fleet coral]

thinking about what did you tell

[clever sapphire]

smart

[fleet coral]

you mean we can force the bug with critter ?

[balmy condor]

Can click on the frost giants in northrend

[balmy condor]

What the fuck does this even mean

Critter is -10 stat

[fleet coral]

see i said i never understood xD

[balmy condor]

-10 stat bad

[royal lantern]

elaborate

[balmy condor]

Stat is damage, not having it is not damage

[clever sapphire]

if im doing negative dmg and i take -10 from that, do i do more dmg or even more negative dmg

[uneven summit]

minus and minus gives plus

stands to reason

[fleet coral]

nope never getting

we need to use critter ?

[clever sapphire]

if i find enough critters i will do positive dmg, but than the negative stat will give me negative dmg again so i lose dmg again

so critter hast a soft cap

im giving myself a headache

should have slept more

[fleet coral]

i just quited thinking thats something i can't do much :/

[clever sapphire]

critter=bad

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-notes-notes-gif-17478299096235163441

[fleet coral]

what do you mean with bad

its bad bad

or good bad

[clever sapphire]

its taking 10 euros from your bank account bad

[fleet coral]

oh shiet

[balmy condor]

This is actually a fun thought experiment, but it would depend on how you got to doing negative damage

Cause technically if you integer overflow on stats for example, -10 would overflow less, which would increase your damage

[royal lantern]

playing assassinstion right now

[junior aurora]

^

[balmy condor]

But if you’re doing negative damage because let’s say a skill is just scaled by a negative number

Then the -10 would be more negative

But even then

Depends on the skill and the stat

Not an easy question

[fleet coral]

i can be volunteer even i never understand

i have 489 one my back

[clever sapphire]

and blizzard code, never forget about blizzard code

[fleet coral]

i'll kill critter with it

[balmy condor]

Why are you killing critters?

[junior aurora]

dinner

[clever sapphire]

this is why i love this channel

[fleet coral]

for the bad

[balmy condor]

I see

You don’t get the buff by killing them

But I assume you’re gonna figure that one out

Good luck soldier

[fleet coral]

after using

dagger sir

i'll kill it to be sure

have buff

[clever sapphire]

i shall exterminate all the bugs

[fleet coral]

*bad buff

[balmy condor]

Killing it doesn’t do anything related to the buff

But yes

Kill all the rats

Rats are the enemy

[fleet coral]

🫡

have 8 daggers on my bank 9th on my bag

i'll ensure all of them kill the bug (after using)

so -90 stat

thats the suicide mission

[gusty mirage]

Calm down Alberta

[balmy condor]

New York is in a mini-epidemic right now cause the disease is transmitted via rat piss

[gusty mirage]

Sounds like they need to clean faster

Or better

[subtle tundra]

That's actually so funny

[balmy condor]

1/5 cases is a garbage collector

It’s not like insanely common

But the fact that it’s more common to the point of it making headlines

Is very funny

[gusty mirage]

They should piss on the rats to establish dominance

[balmy condor]

The great piss wars of ‘24

[hexed willow]

Why does sanguine blades always seem to be on the receiving end up weird bugs/coding? I remember it being messy with Aug too

[junior aurora]

it just works weirdly

[uneven summit]

going new york in 2 weeks, i´ll make sure to lick on some rats

bring it back to europe coronastyle

[clever sapphire]

i would like my rat medium rare

[balmy condor]

Residuals are very strictly regulated effects in terms of what they interact with

So in the case that they DO interact with something

It’s often that they don’t at first due to their nature of being so restricted

[hexed willow]

Interesting thank you

Residuals seem very uncommon then

[spice surge]

When sanguine blades was introduced it didnt have the usual restrictions, which made it so on bosses like gnarlroot it would "double dip" from the 100% damage increase.

As an example of why theyre usually restricted

(so it would end up doing ~60% of the damage of the original bleed instead of 30%, as well as the bleed being twice as strong)

[reef mulch]

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[fringe mirage]

is this bug going to fixed this season or not :))

[clever sapphire]

most likely since its hitting multiple classes/specs

when? dunno, they probably dont care enough to put much effort into it since the raid is melting already as it is

[spice surge]

Is it affecting multiple classes/specs though

[royal lantern]

iirc, executioners sentence from Ret is also affected?

[clever sapphire]

devoker tset is also hit from it

so they are playing 2p2pc

[patent vessel]

monk bonedust brew is also getting it

i swapped from my rogue to my MM hunter for h council, was a pretty stark difference in damage

[clever sapphire]

i got myself benched on m council

convinced the officers that even if im good mechanically, i do no dmg

and it worked out

[spice spire]

It’s not even a real fight ain’t no way

[clever sapphire]

they wanted to keep me in

but i didnt wanna see the shitshow

i wasnt on the list of people that get icon

so there was no gain for me

[gusty mirage]

thats selfish af wtf

[clever sapphire]

yap

sweet talking myself into bench for 1 boss, just to suffer on the next one

[gusty mirage]

how dare you not take the very very serious season 4 of dragonlfight very seriously

[clever sapphire]

im taking it seriously

they didnt need another tank dps

also i got a brainfart on what talents i wanna try on council

[spice surge]

Ye imagine once they fix the bugs, youll be like 10% ahead of the tanks!

[clever sapphire]

i told my healers i could jump in the lava if they would like to push heal logs

nobody is gonna notice me missing

[harsh harbor]

Sin aoe is breaking my brain

lol

[clever sapphire]

spread bleeds, find big target, do st

[harsh harbor]

I feel overwhelmed trying to keep bleeds up on everything

and my damage is REALLY bad lol

Definitely user error im sure

but holy shit

[quiet spear]

yo guys asa good in raid and mythics?

[clever sapphire]

no need to keep bleeds up on everything, if you spread it to like 7-8 targets so you ahve infinite energy you can just focus on st

[quiet spear]

why!

[clever sapphire]

mid and mid

[harsh harbor]

I feel like by the time ive gotten bleeds out, everything is dead

[clever sapphire]

aye thats how it be

thats assa in low keys

are you playing the shock build?

[harsh harbor]

Im just playing whatever Whispyr put on wowhead lol

[clever sapphire]

i didnt check that for talents since nothing changed

[neat plank]

I don't even attempt to spread anything. I just apply on pull via IC and then pretty much just "aoe" with FOK+caustic spatter+envenom

[harsh harbor]

Been playing outlaw since legion really, and this feels 1000x harder to me

[clever sapphire]

ye this isk inda the way in lower keys

[harsh harbor]

probably because I just dont know it

[clever sapphire]

and dont forget about ct

[clever sapphire]

assa in keys is probably harder than outlaw, because you have to keep up so many things

outlaw you do the same as you do in st

but press BF more often

[neat plank]

outlaw is probably more rage inducing if you fail at the keeping up AR mini game

[harsh harbor]

Hah, thought this was supposed to be the boomer slow spec, this shit is difficult

[clever sapphire]

its slower than outlaw sure, but aoe can be kinda hard at the beginning

[harsh harbor]

gotcha

[clever sapphire]

just get used to spreading bleeds

[harsh harbor]

I can see why it turns folks off at first

Gonna stick with it though damnit

[clever sapphire]

same with outlaw probably, when they have 40% ar uptime or so

[clever sapphire]

would be sad to get defeated by the "boomer slow sepc" huh?

[harsh harbor]

Im 45, dont learn as quickly as I did in Naxx 40 lol

outlaw is giving me carpul tunnel though

120 apm is brutal

[clever sapphire]

ye you wont get that with assa

i usually plan out somewhat which targets i will target in a big pull to put garrote/rupture on

[harsh harbor]

I just need to figure out the "breakpoint" when to stop chasing bleeds and funnel cs

[clever sapphire]

example is like tree boss pull, i put garrote/rupture on the 3 big plants

the others that get the bleeds get it

i press CT

[harsh harbor]

sorry CT?

[clever sapphire]

crimson tempest

[harsh harbor]

gotcha

[clever sapphire]

after that i just find the mob with the most hp and press dm-shiv-dance-kb

press a few more garrotes inside dance so even more mobs have garrote on them

(not switching from the kb target)

[harsh harbor]

Mouse over macro?

[clever sapphire]

nah i just garrote the same target

[harsh harbor]

Ahh

[clever sapphire]

it spreads to 2 additional targets anyways

[harsh harbor]

im switching targets

probably fucking it all up

[clever sapphire]

if its like 6 targets i switch also

because that way i can spread garrote to all 6 with 2 casts

but in a big pull i just spread a few

and whatever

[harsh harbor]

so lets say in m+ a pack of 5 is pulled. do you garrote x 2 and rupture x2 on the same target? Or do you garrotte, switch garrotte etc

then switch back

[clever sapphire]

twice on the same one

cause initial hits 3 targets

[harsh harbor]

well thats infinitely easier than what I was trying to do

[clever sapphire]

second cast hits the last 2

same with rupture

[harsh harbor]

Very helpful

thank you

[clever sapphire]

gotcha

big pulls usually take a bit of time to gather so you can spread bleeds during the gathering

[harsh harbor]

so lets say its a monster pack, do you do the same? garrotte x 3 to the same target?

[clever sapphire]

lets take tree room in academy

when everything is pulled

i garrote the first big plant and press rupture (only 3 cp but i will spread enough so whatever)

do the same on 2nd big plant

and 3rd plant is where usually most of the things is gathered

so i garrote that twice

rupture it

fok-ct

and just start my ST rota on the last plant

[harsh harbor]

all very helpful

[clever sapphire]

during dance you can also press garrote/rupture on the target you are blasting also

so it spreads to more targets if you feel like the dots are dropping

[harsh harbor]

I'll keep banging my head against it

[clever sapphire]

thats how most of the stuff is

understand the basics

the intuitive stuff is gonna come after that

[gusty mirage]

you got this eventually it'll all click and you'll be confused why you thought it was overwhelming

it's legit just reps, eventually you just internalize all this little bullshit things you gotta do

the things dying too fast doesn't change fwiw

[clever sapphire]

only thing that changes is that you know which things will die too fast

[gusty mirage]

you could play the sudden demise build to help with the dps hit of everything getting deleted

lil bit of a padderoo

[harsh harbor]

I'm just rocking the m+ build on the wowhead guide

Seems like Whispyr keeps that up to date for the most part

[clever sapphire]

my monk buddy going "i wanted to touch them but they exploded huh", and i said "ye they met their sudden demise"

[gusty mirage]

but yeah you'll eventually nail it

assassination is very satisfying in keys

just kinda sucks that the damage is meh

[harsh harbor]

appreciate the encouragement. I managed to figure out law and sub, so this is the last one I need to figure out

[clever sapphire]

yap, and if a patch note comes you will see about it in the pins if anything changes

[gusty mirage]

one day assa will be good in keys again and me and @marble hemlock can play it and have fun

[grim tree]

Sub outlaw or assa for raid?

[gusty mirage]

[clever sapphire]

the most fun one

[gusty mirage]

if youre looking for the best numbers, probably sub still. If you're looking for consistent damage without much planning, outlaw. If you like big numbers every minute, assassination

[harsh harbor]

Outlaw kinda drives me nuts in pugs, since stupid shit happens. I die and all momentum is lost

[surreal citrus]

got kicked from a heroic pug on council for a sub rogue with storm eaters boon

i will simply wait for guild night

[dense axle]

i got a 515 (champion max) Ashes of the Ambersoul from weekly quest (very lucky). Should i pick the dagger or another shit from Bullion, next week?:

[digital venture]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[digital venture]

is @limber lion 's Plater updated for S4?

[spice spire]

It is not yet

The only major thing he has to make sure of is dungeons have appropriate studf

But outside of that it’s plug and play atm for basic things

Which is good because it’s the only plater I use

[alpine juniper]

Archon has Sin rogue as doing well in M+. Should I take the bait? What Cha ged since last season?

[spice surge]

Nothing changed since the last season

[digital venture]

same, I tried others but his just feels cozier and prettier

[alpine juniper]

We were Aff tier last season I almost deleted my rogue after hitting 3k

Out of 13 classes I got to 3k, my rogue was my lowest performer so I shelfed her.

[royal python]

Sin is for high skill players

[alpine juniper]

That's not really the issue, having been the first person ever to get every class to 3k in a single season id agree with you. It's just the best Sin players in S3 will get clapped but your average Ret, Spriest or Destro lock in high keys.

[neat plank]

please tell me your top 3 most enjoyable classes or specs and why you enjoyed them so much 🙂

[dark token]

If you played outlaw you wouldn't say that

[alpine juniper]

Last season? I'd have to say ele shaman, SV Hunter and Shadow Priest.

[alpine juniper]

I wasn't a fan of the play style.

[harsh harbor]

got the st down i think

[dark token]

Archon is really really shit btw

It gets data from people who log their first week of keys... When everyone is gear farming

Aka psychos

[vestal wren]

it is a statistics website

there is a limit in how useful automatically parsed information is

everything more in detail needs more context

[harsh harbor]

whats the though of elusiveness vs CD? had a healer flip the eff out on me the other day for running CD in a pug m+

[vestal wren]

elusivness in rly high keys

else just cheat

cheat death is a rly good talent

[harsh harbor]

it was a 6, he died to chains on chargath twice, tried to say its because he had to heal me since I wasnt running elusiveness lol

[gusty mirage]

does he expect you to feint every mechanic as assassination?

cuz that's not possible

tell them to press their fucking buttons

and then ask them if they know what a sit rat is

when they ask "what's a sit rat"

you tell them sit you fuckin rat

[dark token]

You don't need elusiveness as much as last season yet

DF dungeons have less abilities which don't respect feint yet still one shot

I only remember gale arrow which is also cloakable

[spice surge]

The pulsing aoe in halls too

But ye less than in s3

The new crystal damage on last boss of azure vault goes through cloak too btw

Love it

[harsh harbor]

I called him a fat kid till he exploded. Was quite entertaining

[neat plank]

in nokhud the wind arrow from female horse boss did more than 90% hp to me with no elusiveness ;<

+8

actually more than 95% id say

[harsh harbor]

He actually flexed his 401k on me, which was really funny

[neat plank]

i really dont wanna play without cheat death ;S

because I fail way too often

how much does he have in his 401k?

[harsh harbor]

he said "i have a 401k that would make your parents cry" I replied ok fat kid. then he went into a tangent about hes not fat, I must be. All very funny

[neat plank]

damn, he's winning irl and also in game

[dark token]

You mean boss 3?

[soft shale]

umbreskull

last one

the big crystal has a shield that does dmg until broken

[dark token]

Take vanish shield talent if ur playing sub

Cloak arrow 1, ask for external arrow 2, cloak arrow 3 if playing assa

Or talent elusive for nokhud only

[neat plank]

assa :p

wait, cloak prevents arrow dmg? 😛 lol

[dark token]

Yes

[neat plank]

damn, I'm a bad rogue

[dark token]

But it arriw less cooldown than cloak

[neat plank]

ok so problem solved

[dark token]

You can only cloak every other arrow

[neat plank]

arrow 1 cloak
arrow 2 cheat daeth
arrow 3 cloak

😄

[dark token]

Yes that works also

At a certain key level

Elusiveness won't save you

Alone

As assa

[neat plank]

thats actually funny

[dark token]

This is because assa sucks and is squishy

Because they have no defensive talents compared to outlaw or sub

That's why it's not run at top keys, can't live

It's ok below that level tho

[soft shale]

yea it has the enh shaman problem

dmg is more than fine for the most part

but it mushy

[dark token]

Shamans can ghost wolf no?

I never see shamans die on oneshots where I die as sin

[soft shale]

just in general

[dark token]

People say boomie is squishy too but

Boomie has done +34 AD

[soft shale]

yea those people are delusional

[dark token]

Sin can't even do 30

[soft shale]

bear form shift can survive almost anything

they are just button snacky

same as mages dying

unreal

[neat plank]

which tier piece are you guys getting with the KSH/hc raid token? gonna wait to see weekly vault first? 🙂

[gusty mirage]

ye I would wait

esp cause you have that piece guaranteed and it'd feel pretty shitty to get a piece and then get that same tier piece in the vault

ya know

[neat plank]

very shitty ;O

delayed gratification is the key to success

[gilded oasis]

yeah edge that gear

[severe oyster]

It sucks, but you almost always wait until after first week for vault( and maybe even raid if you're being super greedy).

[hexed willow]

Gonna hope I get a vault piece that isn’t the pieces available to catalyze

[gilded oasis]

its effecient not greedy

[uneven summit]

Nick of time 489, only really gets replaced by Nick of time in S4 right? ilvl above it

[spice spire]

Dog?

[spice spire]

For OH yeah

[gilded oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/i-woof-you-woof-gif-25047817

[spice spire]

[neon oxide]

sanguine blades deffo still bugged lmao

[spice spire]

Was as of 10 hours ago. Figured it still would be

[digital venture]

There's an emergency maintenance at 2am. Maybe they gonna fix something then?

[neat plank]

Ass aura buff

[pliant gazelle]

Hope

[spice spire]

[pure bridge]

[hexed willow]

We are realized!

[fast stag]

Hello, I'm looking for a French player who plays rogue assassin and would be kind enough to give me some advice to improve on the class. Thank you very much!

[spice surge]

Hopefully they realized more than that

[patent vessel]

hallelujah they're gonna fix us

[spice spire]

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves

They identified a problem doesn’t mean they’ll fix it

[patent vessel]

[spice spire]

We all identify our problems (not playing mage) and continue to not fix the problem (play mage)

So blizzard can do the same

[patent vessel]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-on-damage-and-healing-issues-in-awakened-raids-339036

they said they are going to hot fix it

[spice spire]

Damn I just wanted to be a hater

[junior aurora]

speak for yourself

[spice spire]

Yeah I will

[gusty mirage]

speak for me too pls

[spice spire]

“God I’m so hot” - Oxi

[junior aurora]

ur a bad fake oxi

he would never admit the truth

[gusty mirage]

I'm also a bad oxi

[spice spire]

That ur kink or

[gusty mirage]

what did you just call me

[spice spire]

A great lad

[gusty mirage]

no u

[spice spire]

Definitely not

[maiden rover]

Definitely yes

[fleet coral]

can i use

doomblades instead of sanguine for now ?

[uneven summit]

Start crafts?

[fleet coral]

nope seems so

which talent i'll take instead of sanguine xD

[quiet oar]

i dont think thats an case of "take another talent"

[gusty mirage]

Doomblade would run into similar issues

[quiet oar]

i think its just an "pray that blizzard fixes it fast"

[fleet coral]

cuz havee same icon actually

but i'm on raszageth

twist the knife is bad decision isn't it

i mean for now

[arctic socket]

@gusty mirage bad oxi

https://tenor.com/view/jermichael-no-urn-spray-bottle-spray-gif-13258723

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

The fuck is he bad for

Blud is yapping

[rotund oak]

Mr @balmy condor sir,ill pick both dreamcarver and fang coz im not going to farm nick again but Fuu's sims say sin uses Sark dagger not dreamcarver

basicly nvm ill sim them for myself

[vestal wren]

item level probably wins ^^

sin likes a good spread of stats

[violet jackal]

that should never happen

[rotund oak]

yeah ik,its just that your sims contradict which dagger is best to whispyr's proposal of whats overall best

[vestal wren]

see #subtlety message (its for assassiantion, i am not baiting you to open the sub channel)

[rotund oak]

yup ive seen again and ik,just wanted to make it clear coz im picking up my wpns first

but thx

im picking dreamcarver most likely

coz i can use both in sub and sin

and fang 2nd

[rigid sphinx]

is this ok to wait for the sanguine blade fix ?

[rotund oak]

bold of u to assume its getting fixed

😅

[glass root]

my friend told me there was an article about these bugs and not just assa bug multiple bugs

about stuff not working in awakened raids

so im thinking they will get fixed

[patent vessel]

ya it's affecting other stuff too

[clever sapphire]

As long as mages and locks are not hit its not on their prio list

[harsh harbor]

hows this look for st, LFR terros

492 ilvl

[tall jay]

When do we start swapping out S3 for s4 teir…at 2pc or 4pc?

[runic hinge]

4 piece

[tall jay]

Rog

[urban lily]

evenom with 4cp?

[royal lantern]

the pre-kingsbane envenom is 5+

all others are 4+

[urban lily]

guildie was saying the bare minimum is 5

guess he trippin

[gusty mirage]

your guildie hasn't read up on rogue since shadowlands it seems

well I guess since s2

[subtle tundra]

bro we're bugged in hardmode aswell

dati

fuckk

[gilded oasis]

im bugged irl tho

[subtle tundra]

?!?!

[gusty mirage]

would make sense considering the new scaling is what's causing the issue

[subtle tundra]

bro im fighting the tank on ST

[gusty mirage]

also why are you playing wow

you have a double influenced simplex to craft

[subtle tundra]

bro i feel bad for my guildies

😦

[clever sapphire]

because you are playing assa?

[gusty mirage]

their feelings won't get your dex stacker rolling

[gilded oasis]

bro this aint poe chat

i'll ban you

[subtle tundra]

didnt get nick either, got sandglass

[gusty mirage]

ban this @gilded oasis

[shy pecan]

Gottem

[spice surge]

Bugs are only like 10% or something right, if your at tank dps its not gonna get much better even after the fix

[subtle tundra]

i know?

thats why im crying

[gusty mirage]

mfers out here complaining about me telling varas to go craft his amulet in poe when they're spamming pedro in the war within channel

WILD

[gilded oasis]

we wild oxi

[bronze pike]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1098273695186821201.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

is that for me?

[spice spire]

Tell those frauds

[gilded oasis]

[gusty mirage]

zar just upset she's still playing stinky rogue while I'm a gigarat ret main now

[spice spire]

No she’s super based for that

Tbh

[bronze pike]

https://tenor.com/view/apes-together-strong-0p1sf-gif-20906166

me and oxi

[gusty mirage]

sorry can't hear you from all the way up here on the meters

[bronze pike]

playing ret

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

Sorry I can’t hear you over your padded walls

Stockholm syndrome looking mf

[gusty mirage]

my walls aren't padded bitch

in fact I got a big ass window in my office

[spice spire]

Yeah but them cheeks are

[gusty mirage]

what color is YOUR bugatti?

[shy pecan]

Red

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

I did work out legs yesterday

[spice spire]

Same. Pulled my first zine. Woke up this am and definitely pulled something. Should have stretched more

[gilded oasis]

The higher you are the farther you fall. The longer the walk the farther you crawl BOZO

[gilded oasis]

yeah we old, we need to stretch dog

[gusty mirage]

your only next move is to continue working out the injured body part and hope it goes away, isn't that right @rigid mango

[spice spire]

[bronze pike]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1226590776008511498.webp?size=128&quality=lossless

yoink

[gusty mirage]

mfer has universal healthcare

and doesn't go to a doctor

WILD

[spice spire]

I’m not stupid. We rest it until it feels mostly up to snuff. Then lightly go back

Ez

[gusty mirage]

imagine not being stupid

loser lmao

[spice spire]

Should have fixed it

Still play rogue

So I’m downright toaster iq

[gilded oasis]

[gusty mirage]

did someone say bath bomb?

[spice spire]

[subtle tundra]

is this good?

[gusty mirage]

its aight