assassination

[vestal wren]

it closes the gap between mythic dungeons and mythic+

[spice spire]

GM #assassination I hope we’re having a great day!

[spice surge]

You too mister quack!

[spice spire]

[spice surge]

Why you ducking?

You silly goose

[gaunt sigil]

[royal lantern]

we lose our fav duck soon

[spice spire]

Yeah okay pal

[royal lantern]

[spice spire]

That mf gonna be worse than me

(I’ll miss him if he doesn’t visit the pet thread)

[shy pecan]

Same Mr. Quack

Also, I support Eleem in calling Quake Quack from now on

[storm forum]

shmeeps hasnt died yet

[spice spire]

And yet you no longer have the dog pfp, curious!

[storm forum]

wake up

Lanille died

4 months ago

[spice spire]

Grab a brush and put on a little make up?

Oh

Damn

Loved that lad

[storm forum]

we all did

but its time to wake up

[spice spire]

[storm forum]

[fallow canopy]

good morning sir doggo

[royal lantern]

its sir Duck Quack now

[fallow canopy]

damn, petition to get banned please

[spice spire]

GM king I hope you have a great day friend

[clever sapphire]

fyrakk down finally

letsgooooo

[keen spruce]

[clever sapphire]

i pressed cloak during last 1%

so even if someone explodes i will live

[royal lantern]

YOOOOOOOOO

[clever sapphire]

i was hella confused

didnt expect to kill it 1 hour into raidnight

first CE, first time fyrakk, time to go and drink

[vestal wren]

congrats

[clever sapphire]

[slim hamlet]

Oh I got it mixed with someone saying talking about what it was on live

[runic hinge]

Always strange when you go in for a night of prog and kill it so fast now the raids just like, what do I do with my next two hours

[royal lantern]

tbh

doing the ussual "raidlead talks about next season and gives a small recap" talk

[slim hamlet]

2 more hours to farm for Nick of Time

[runic hinge]

“Next season is fated. Fuck off and don’t talk to me until TWW”

[runic hinge]

I used my third spark week 5 to craft a dagger and week 6 a myth one was in my vault

[slim hamlet]

but

what about the 0.5-1% dps increase

How will you be able to do anything without it

[runic hinge]

I won’t. That’s why I don’t do things. I just log into the forums and cry

[slim hamlet]

2 more hours to write wowhead comments then

[runic hinge]

Perfect

[slim hamlet]

and complain that no hero talent preview this week either

[runic hinge]

That’s a fair complaint

[slim hamlet]

I have already written 4 comments about that

[runic hinge]

where hero talents

[clever sapphire]

yap thats what he did, but with tww instead of next season

[runic hinge]

Did he at least give everyone a forehead kiss when he was done

[slim hamlet]

it is law so I highly doubt he skipped it

[royal lantern]

tbf, next season is recruitment season

for tww

we need a enh shaman again

[clever sapphire]

same

our enha is gonna play monk

so im also missing windfury now

[slim hamlet]

they will spawn once they get their hero talents too

[clever sapphire]

i just told my officers that im playing assa rogue no matter what

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/based-shark-talking-kattes-pensionat-roliga-hajen-mega-based-shark-talking-mega-based-shark-gif-14137702971313931468

[clever sapphire]

not forcing myself onto sub unless its insanly stronger

[royal lantern]

i always say the same

i can play sub when its not pure dogshit gameplay wise

but it is rn

so i dont

[clever sapphire]

i played sub on smolderon/tindral

[slim hamlet]

inb4 trickster somehow is the only playable hero talent

[clever sapphire]

told them that im playing assa on fyrakk cause i dont wanna relearn my dust rotation

[blazing jewel]

My guild called me a buyer when I played sin on smold

[royal lantern]

meanwhile im #3 dps without externals on smold as assa

[blazing jewel]

Grey king

[shy pecan]

Nice

[keen spruce]

how is 228 grey

[blazing jewel]

[keen spruce]

wait whispyr is delaying his deathmark on in p2

to spatter off the dark collosus

I should do that

[spice surge]

real G's only go for boss damage logs

[keen spruce]

well he did more boss damage too

but he got giga KB crits

[blazing jewel]

Imagine having the adds live more than .2 seconds

Too many purple demons in my raid

[blazing jewel]

Have you played sin in fyrakk yet

[keen spruce]

I think i can time it

like Larry adds

so that i get big KB bonks

on little adds as they gather

[blazing jewel]

Pretty sure you just dm right when they start moving

[keen spruce]

it's gotta be early enough

[blazing jewel]

Like after fyrakk spawns them and you start moving

[keen spruce]

so that you don't miss the back half of lust

ye

I was DMing the fire add

but it's dying pretty fast now

I think it died before my KB a couple of times last Sunday

[blazing jewel]

Yea you have to dm the other one if you want to full pad

[keen spruce]

before it finished*

i dno't wanna repeat abberus

[blazing jewel]

Abberus my beloved

Sark should be pretty good for sin

Not sure how you’d optimally reopen on the boss with the haste buff because it would drop before kb is done

[keen spruce]

fkin

KB first gloabl

k

then just catch up with the rest of your buttons

[royal lantern]

me on abberus

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1113744620178915427/1226940061829042257/1.png?ex=662697fa&is=661422fa&hm=3bf280465f78e532cbdf89f6c670477fe51bb0c7ab8c69d79946218bc699f6cc&

me this tier

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1113744620178915427/1226940062101409872/2.png?ex=662697fa&is=661422fa&hm=f47dc28dfd785227254ac14bb0885bc1ad3344435fa40f5724b10159aa6b27eb&

[blazing jewel]

Abberus was annoying to prog though

Most of the boss mechanics you couldn’t do anything against

Went through cloak

[royal lantern]

ye but atleast sark was not a shit endboss

inc: some no lifers that raid 9 days a week crying that it was bad cus prog was over faster

[keen spruce]

my sark woulda been fine if I didn'dt have to run a p3 bomb

but we never recleared

[royal lantern]

if you do mechanics, who cares

• its parses this tier on rogue

meaningless af lol

[keen spruce]

I are

care

[royal lantern]

just gamble good

[keen spruce]

numba up

[royal lantern]

the only thing up

is pilot shmeeps soon

[keen spruce]

soon

you need 1500 flight hours

to get hired commercial

[royal lantern]

show them your wow ingame flying hours

[keen spruce]

I have 4

I should show them my dragon riding achievements

[shy pecan]

Ya, easy hire that way

[runic hinge]

Yeah just gold every race and then show up and be like look at how good I am

[royal lantern]

"i did the azure span treeway in 48 seconds on a dragon without seatbelts, cant hire a better mf then me"

[storm forum]

Just don't let them see the dragon x airplane fanart

[thorn fjord]

@royal lantern My aberrus was pretty trash but i did get 22 on kaz

[brazen zodiac]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[strange python]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[earnest remnant]

[spice surge]

Atleast the first phase of sark was good

Compared to fyrakk where the good phase is at the end

[earnest remnant]

Sark was waaay to easy imo

fight did nothing

doesent help that rogue was god fucking awful on it

[spice surge]

We wiped a lot because our bombs didnt get down properly

But ye rogue being almost tank damage didnt make it more fun

[keen spruce]

Hot boxes on death puddles were a little sus

Hit*

[earnest remnant]

dunno never fell down

[keen spruce]

I fell down with a bomb and it teleported the bomb and my dead body right on top of the raid

[earnest remnant]

Sark was the honestly the worst of the three end bosses this expansion

and it wasent even close

[keen spruce]

I never killed raz but it was kinda cheeks

You lost an entire death mark at the end of p1

[spice surge]

Idk raz kinda ass too

[earnest remnant]

Rasz pre nerfs was alot of fun for me

[spice surge]

Sark p1 slaps hard enough to make it better than raz imo

[keen spruce]

Raz was hot doody dogshit imo

Both intermissions were giga shit

[earnest remnant]

having to figure out how to live p1 together with Push was fun

[spice surge]

I didnt find fyrakk particularly fun either, by far my favourite boss this expac is tindral

Only one being close is rashok

[keen spruce]

Rashok for me

Very fun

[earnest remnant]

Rashok was fun week 1

after that it was boring

[keen spruce]

Yeah we didn’t reclear

Cuz we didn’t get ce

[earnest remnant]

one thing ill say tho

[keen spruce]

Er wait

That was Avery’s

Abberus

Nvm but we still didn’t reclear

[earnest remnant]

Rasz after nerfs was a horrid fight

prenerf goodge

[keen spruce]

Imagine fighting end bosses pre-nerf

[earnest remnant]

they just nerfed the wrong things on it

[keen spruce]

[earnest remnant]

having to do winds prenerf as a rogue

without a BDK

was funny xD

[keen spruce]

We’re lucky to get to them before the last nerf

Bruh the shadow step slot machine

If they flipped the boss the wrong way kek

[earnest remnant]

well on some winds

its not the tanks fault

[keen spruce]

I played velf tho

[spice surge]

She turns by herself ye

[earnest remnant]

the boss will just turn

cuz of cast

[keen spruce]

And we had an uhdk

[spice surge]

Like mid winds she casts her breath

[earnest remnant]

so like having a BDK made 4 out of 5 winds chill

[keen spruce]

Oh ye at the last half

Playing velf and double step

With a dps dk

[earnest remnant]

breath 3 she turns mid just at the end of the winds

so need to early step

wind 3 sorry*

[keen spruce]

But we also got there

Like 7 years after all of the nerfs

Could just sprint the first like 3 winds lol

[earnest remnant]

prenerf Rasz probably had the hardest p1 of any boss ive ever played tbh

[keen spruce]

There were some comps that just couldn’t do winds tho

[earnest remnant]

everything just fucking 1 tapped you

[keen spruce]

So like

Still cheeks

[earnest remnant]

had to be very very good proactively with calling for external help on bombs

which was nice

[keen spruce]

The prenerf sparks

[earnest remnant]

seeing the team come together and get progressively better and better at it

sparks wasent the issue

the big bombs was

they did like 105% of your health

so no defensive = dead

[keen spruce]

Shaddup

U dum raccoon

[earnest remnant]

sparks was the easy part of pi

p1*

[keen spruce]

If you’re in a guild that can stand in an assigned spot

Sure

[earnest remnant]

gotta whip up power points for them

[keen spruce]

Oh we had the diagrams

[earnest remnant]

and do a follow the leader kinda thing

1 man in charge

[keen spruce]

I think our raiders in s1 had problems with image abstraction

[earnest remnant]

rest move in around him

[keen spruce]

And object permenancr e

[earnest remnant]

also

side note

[keen spruce]

Permenancr

[earnest remnant]

fuck you

[keen spruce]

Permenance

[earnest remnant]

for becoming pilot

[keen spruce]

[earnest remnant]

that shit was my dream job

[keen spruce]

I can show u the worlllldddd

U should become pilot then

[earnest remnant]

but god decided to make me 194cm tall, colour blind and practically blind like a mole

[keen spruce]

How many is that in American units

[earnest remnant]

6'4

[keen spruce]

Oh I mean I’m 6’w

2

[earnest remnant]

i wanted to be a fighter pilot

[keen spruce]

Oh ye

Me 2

But I was a teenage fuckup

[earnest remnant]

but im severly colour blind

and basically blind

so

[keen spruce]

F

U can probably still fly commercial or charter

If you have good glasses

[earnest remnant]

but i wanted to ZOOOOOOOOM

[keen spruce]

You can buy a mig 21

[earnest remnant]

yeah just buy it

[keen spruce]

For a couple million usd

[earnest remnant]

you homeless?
just buy a house?

[keen spruce]

I think that’s the cheapest fighter jet you’re gonna find though

[earnest remnant]

nah im finna cop a f35

on debit lilbro

[keen spruce]

I mean just buy a country at that point

[earnest remnant]

that jet cost more millions than my country has residents bro

[keen spruce]

They are starting to make person aircraft jets

It they’re very spensive

[spice surge]

Yet your country has the infinity money glitch of ozempic

[keen spruce]

But*

[spice surge]

Just yoink some of that and buy fighter jets

[earnest remnant]

think our country recently bought like 24 fighter jets

[blazing jewel]

lol

[earnest remnant]

i could just steal one

[blazing jewel]

my spot was under the dragussy

couldnt see anything

[keen spruce]

Same

I bought 1000 dust

To make the draggusy seethru

[blazing jewel]

aoe blind will be real good on rasz

[keen spruce]

O truuu

[blazing jewel]

[keen spruce]

In i1 also

And on broodmommy

Hey ‘member when they game sub aoe kidney shot for like 2 weeks

Gave*

I member

[spice surge]

Not even, only 1

[keen spruce]

That woulda been pog on a log

@earnest remnant when I when the powerball next time it goes over 1b

I’ll buy you a mig

[spice surge]

Pog on a log sounds like some old saying

[earnest remnant]

you a real one

[keen spruce]

Do you have your private license?

[earnest remnant]

i could get one

surely they wont care that ive lost my driver license twice right?

[keen spruce]

I lost mine 3 times

But it was all before I was 21

And only one was driving related

Technically

[earnest remnant]

one was for speeding

other was for doing dumbshit, that isnt allowed here

but is in other countries

and i forgor

[keen spruce]

Oop

Mine were all minor in possession of alcohol

Because America

[spice surge]

Wait you lose your drivers license if you have alcohol as a minor?

[keen spruce]

Ye for a year

[spice surge]

Or were you drunk while driving

[earnest remnant]

one was me going 160kmh in an 80 zone on my bike (this is in the middle of nowhere im not a demon)

[keen spruce]

No just for possession

[spice surge]

thats whack

[earnest remnant]

other was u know how bikers just go past cars at a red light and go up the front?

[keen spruce]

In Oregon at least idk

[keen spruce]

O ye

[earnest remnant]

yeah thats not allowed here

[keen spruce]

F

[earnest remnant]

and i just got home from a vacation place where it was xD

[keen spruce]

Well idk what the euro version of the FAA is like

But I just had to write them a one page explanation

Of why I was a fuckin dum dum in my youth

[earnest remnant]

then some minor things like totalling my bike twice

(not my fault on those)

[keen spruce]

I mean a lot of that wouldn’t even show up

On stuff they’d check

At least in the us

[earnest remnant]

well it would if my bike hit the side of a house

[keen spruce]

I think losing the license would

Well the house should have moved

Not your fault

[earnest remnant]

thats what i said

[keen spruce]

Imagine just not moving when a bike is flying at you

[earnest remnant]

nah but i atleast didn't have to pay for anything back then

[keen spruce]

Negligence imo

[earnest remnant]

this was at like a pretty tight 100 degree turn

there had been an accident the day before

so a bunch of gravel

had been yeeted up on the road

and there was no signs up

so my bike just slid away under me

[blazing jewel]

you just wanted to do a kickflip

[earnest remnant]

i think i need help

[keen spruce]

Raccoons aren’t cats

[blazing jewel]

[keen spruce]

[earnest remnant]

its pretty fun

hell im even enjoying the casual content in it

[amber fossil]

for M Council, do you guys start with Dance ST talents and swap IC for DS?

[balmy condor]

and caustic

but yeh

[amber fossil]

or is there a better way to get IC

[balmy condor]

IC kinda shit on that fight imo

but is what it is

its probably better than dashing

but it's like eating dogshit versus eating horseshit

it's shit

[amber fossil]

lol

what a colorful description

[misty holly]

Whispyr video just dropped!

[balmy condor]

council is just a terrible fucking boss man

hate that thing

[amber fossil]

well, just one color, but you know

[balmy condor]

don't get too excited it's basically just 15 minutes of me ADHD reading the pins

[amber fossil]

IC does to seem to help (me) quite a bit

less tab targeting and instead of getting 1 set of empowered bleeds on onme traget, I get 2 sets on 2

[balmy condor]

every time my guild does the boss a good like 75% of bleeds cast during IC hit absolutely nothing

it's pretty cringe

[amber fossil]

yeah, the hitboxes seem to small enough for tanks not place them close enough

[blazing jewel]

normally ic has a massive range

but on council it feels weird

even if the bear is between them on pull it still doesnt cleave sometimes

[spice surge]

My favourite part of council fights are when you cant cleave the bosses

And when they constantly jump away, thats also very fun

As if the duck thing wasnt annoying enough

[blazing jewel]

or one of the bosses having a .1s frontal cast

thats fun

[amber fossil]

indeed, this tank likes to tank Urc so Aery is in the frontal

[drifting cloud]

if your tank never got a penta kill with frontal on farm did you even do the boss

[blazing jewel]

ours did a 360 with it once because he got ducked

[shy pecan]

Spin to win

[spice surge]

Council is a contender for the worst fight thing expac, but luckily for it aberrus had zskarn

[blazing jewel]

I loved cheesing zskarn

and watching the outrage from that

[balmy condor]

the council fight in aberrus was also shit

the one in vault was a pushover

[blazing jewel]

forming the tesla coil in melee during vault council lol

[spice surge]

I guess it was technically a council fight in aberrus

Vault one was atleast aoe fiesta cleave, which is more fun than getting ducked

[amber fossil]

why do people keep eatring the last weed

ugh

4%

[gilded oasis]

we did it its dead

[woeful meteor]

[spice spire]

Let’s fucking go!

Good shit

[gilded oasis]

I did all of my last set of CDs so wrong cause I thought I was gonna die and I just wanted to get out what damage I could but then I never died

[spice spire]

Ur built diffy

Doesn’t matter the ho died

[marble hemlock]

whatcha playing?

[spice spire]

Are you raiding s4?

[gilded oasis]

441 pullz

[marble hemlock]

and yeah, horizontal in lost ark is pretty good

[drifting cloud]

reaper

[gilded oasis]

me? idk. probably norm for the mount

[marble hemlock]

[amber fossil]

2 bosses 1%, Urctos regened

what a kick in the balls

[marble hemlock]

empress arcana > all tho

youd like it stealthi

[drifting cloud]

next mini balance arcane gets a good buff

they lose the star card

[earnest remnant]

i have a 1600 reaper and 1520 deathlade

[marble hemlock]

its like sub rouge but better

[marble hemlock]

fuck star card

but its still hamstrung by having to play nightmare

and not being able to maintain boundless properly

[drifting cloud]

or they dont lose it, it gets reworked into a really good one

it locks your mana

[marble hemlock]

oh okay

thats kinda based

ye idk empress arcana is just so good

proper subrogue gameplay

not the scuffed shit its been in wow for years

[earnest remnant]

i have no clue what empress arcana means

[marble hemlock]

its one of the 2 class engravings

for arcana

[drifting cloud]

its prob the hardest class in the game to play

[marble hemlock]

empress or emperor

[earnest remnant]

ah

id have to check it out

[marble hemlock]

its chefskiss

you ahve combo points and skills that use them

and then a bunch of temp buffs

you wanna stack/maintain/get as many skills in as possible

while adjusting rotation on the fly

[earnest remnant]

ive been enjoying Lunar reaper alot

satisfying to play

[marble hemlock]

ye honestly

[earnest remnant]

when you learn the bosses

[marble hemlock]

most classes are really fun to play

[earnest remnant]

very very depressing when you dont

[marble hemlock]

ye arcana is like that as well, since you have high mobility but you need to use your mobility to build combo points and cant just sit around not doing anything

EO soulfist was really cool as well

[drifting cloud]

EO is so powercrept thesedays by alot of classes its prob my least enjoyable char atm

[marble hemlock]

hmye

but ye idk

[drifting cloud]

prob the most punishing class in the game if you fuck up your hype

[marble hemlock]

legion raids are just

so good

[earnest remnant]

Surge deathblade is also very satisfying

(when you crit)

[marble hemlock]

you mean when the boss doesnt jump away last second

i messed up and honed to 1600 before i took a break again a month or so ago

so i cant use thaemine pass on it

[earnest remnant]

we were doing some blind prog Ivory tower

and our Deathblade

was so mad

[drifting cloud]

wait its capped at 1600?

that kinda sucks

[marble hemlock]

you cant redeem it at 1600

it goes beyond tho

to 1610

but if youre 1600 you cant use it

[drifting cloud]

yeah that sucks big time

should be 1610

[marble hemlock]

ye

not a big loss but meh

idk i dont really have anybody to play with sadly

so kinda stopped playing again a month ago cuz the 2 peeps i plaed with regularly went on vacation to korea for a month

never even did akkan properly

[runic hinge]

LETS GOOO

race to world last is over

[gilded oasis]

[spice spire]

Ye take the break

[gilded oasis]

yeah then I find a new home

[earnest remnant]

our support player RQ'd

[marble hemlock]

was actually considering using the powerpass to boost my bard

cba playing ayaya and paladin stinks

[earnest remnant]

So whats the pass thing we get with Thaemine coming out soon?

[marble hemlock]

dunno what we get with thaemine

but the current mokoko express and road to whateveritsname get you to 1610

then you just slowly get to 1620 by the time echidna comes out and then you hone with the new honing system that unlocks with echidna

[earnest remnant]

i watched some Echidna gates

looked interesting

[marble hemlock]

ye its great visually

but a bit on the easy side it seems

which is fair cuz thaemine was the hardest boss theyve ever made

and they already said theyll likely never make a raid as hard as thaemine again

[earnest remnant]

from what ive heard from the dev interviews is that they wanted to make em easier

like the new 16 man

[marble hemlock]

ye

[earnest remnant]

was very easy

[marble hemlock]

like

thaemine was too hard i think

largely cuz last gate is like

35mins or smth

[earnest remnant]

xDDDDDD

i only watched gate 1

i need to buy pheons so i can get engravings on my deathblade -.-

[marble hemlock]

iirc it took 2weeks for anybody to clear thaemine hard?

or longer even idk

[drifting cloud]

it was like 11 days

[marble hemlock]

ye

[drifting cloud]

but we get nerfed version + unnerfed version seperate

[earnest remnant]

im hitting 1610 later today

[marble hemlock]

and they had like

[earnest remnant]

getting my Akkan wep

[marble hemlock]

esther6 weps and everything

i never knew they made a full cinematic trailer for thaemine

goes kinda hard

[earnest remnant]

im normally very much a hater for stuff like horizontal content

but i actually dont mind it that much

in lost ark

[marble hemlock]

ye its not bad

some are crazy bad like isle of yearning

but its good ocntent to do while watching series or when you play with gf or smth

[earnest remnant]

farmed 60 island souls
34 sea bounties (thank you pass for giving me a bunch)
and now im almost done with the 8 ignea tokens

[marble hemlock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U00Zwz1Gds0

in case you didnt see it

[earnest remnant]

i couldnt take not having all of my skill points

[marble hemlock]

i still dont have los30

not even close

[drifting cloud]

have you picked up any los cards from vendor stealthi

[earnest remnant]

i pick up all leg cards i see

[marble hemlock]

but ye when i came back to lost ark like 2months ago i told myself i wouldnt fomo so

sucks that i already missed a bunch from the event vendor but w/e

[drifting cloud]

well frog got extended atleast :p

oh well 2 months ago you wouldnt have missed it anyways ig

[bronze pike]

where is sims @spice spire

[spice spire]

Brother

I’m going to Twitter cancel u I s2g

[bronze pike]

we're brothers now

the pack is sealed

[spice spire]

The what is huh

[earnest remnant]

im very very very far off it still tho

[marble hemlock]

ye err

how is your azena/inanna

4star already

[drifting cloud]

the event has packs that give it and he got rng

[marble hemlock]

or did you use selectors

to get the other one to 30

ah oke didnt know

[earnest remnant]

[drifting cloud]

yeah some pack that has like 4los cards in it

[marble hemlock]

guess they gave you balthorr or azena so you get deep dive 30

[drifting cloud]

well hopefully he didnt open selectors

[earnest remnant]

need 4 azena

for deep dive 30

[marble hemlock]

do i log in and kill some guardians real quick to buy out shop

no fomo

[drifting cloud]

some bears on alts

[marble hemlock]

ye iu sually do bear on like

6 or 7 alts

takes like 1min each, 30sec of which is just loadtime

i just want the books

for post 1600 akkan gear

[drifting cloud]

those books are only until 1600

[marble hemlock]

theres new ones iirc

or maybe those are just from the event

[drifting cloud]

yeah from the event, not the vendor

[marble hemlock]

for honing akkan gear

ah oke

[drifting cloud]

theyre thaemine books

for 16-19

[marble hemlock]

ye i mean im under no illusion to like

do thaemine when it comes out so

dont have anybody to play with anyway

[grave osprey]

New to sin, if Vanish and SD are on CD do you manually spread dots or keep hitting prio target and cleave with caustic splatter in m+?

[balmy condor]

cleave as long as you have energy

[spice spire]

What if ur just exhausted from the day man

[gilded oasis]

My energy always at -50

[drifting cloud]

you have to reapply poisons

[spice spire]

Same except not really

[past forum]

There’s this ongoing bit in my raid group when we’re struggling with a boss that if i have to reapply poisons mid pull then it’s the kill

[spice spire]

But I’m@gonna got you with a real

[spice spire]

I had the same bit but it was dropping a hammer midfight because my weapons broke

[past forum]

So now when i want everyone to lock in i call “REAPPLYING POISONS!”

[spice spire]

I wish this was a joke

[earnest remnant]

ive done that alot quake

[drifting cloud]

youre a menace

[earnest remnant]

or mid fight apply some weapon stones

that one is good as well

[drifting cloud]

usually I get a lua error

if I try to do it from bags

[earnest remnant]

i have em keybound

[past forum]

Hammer time

[drifting cloud]

yeah but theyre on my 2nd bar

[spice spire]

Real ones know

[drifting cloud]

Ive killed gnarloot plenty of times without consumes

[spice spire]

Too focused on min maxing

Cba with maintenance

[grave osprey]

should energy be kept at over 50 to continue benefiting from Sanguine blades?

[balmy condor]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[balmy condor]

in aoe you have infinite energy so it doesn't matter

[grave osprey]

learning all the intricacies of sin rogue is gonna take me a minute lol

[amber fossil]

I am now wondering if IC is better than DS for H Fyr?

since it was so much better for M Council

[balmy condor]

Not even remotely

[amber fossil]

kk, might be jumpin on a bandwagon there

for add phases

[balmy condor]

Add phases are just caustic

[amber fossil]

rgr that

[balmy condor]

If the raid groups them up, they die too fast for the bleeds to matter

If they don’t then the adds are too spread to take leverage off of aoe in the first place

[amber fossil]

ahh, thats makes 100 sense, ty

[balmy condor]

And on top of all that it’s only 1/3 phases

[dark token]

You probably don't even want caustic realistically

Just go IB

You aren't cding a heroic add and even cding a mythic add is pretty troll unless hard assigned to one

Fyrakk is pretty patchwerk

[storm forum]

another night of Carly Rae Jepson saving my mental

[amber fossil]

quite a interseting viewpoint

so just spread bleeds on bigs adds and maybe throw in a fan for lil adds?

[dark token]

Caustic spatter for like 6 envenom to pad rly isn't worth it over 2% dmg loss ST and sin job is big ST on boss anyway

It's pretty small unless you CD an add

And doing that especially in HC is rly troll

[dark token]

You just do same rotation as you would with caustic. Bleeds on both big adds and use fok envenom on one (if smalls are up) or just mut envenom

And do 2% more dmg because of the bleed

[runic hinge]

Getting close at all?

[errant swallow]

Sub is probably still ahead.

[storm forum]

got P2 first set of golems almost. best pull wiped with shadow at like 1%, still having some issues with the cages.

[dark token]

P3 is pretty easy but p2 will be a while...

Next is gonna be people blazing adds

[storm forum]

Oh yeah

We're doomed

[fallow canopy]

let me out

[royal lantern]

no

now go and watch the warrior die to the 2nd blazes set, get rezzed and nuke adds with blazes 2min later

[quiet oar]

You mean Feral

Right

[steel ridge]

no this week in wow 😦

[worthy cobalt]

would you change Head Hero 6/6 with haste+mastery to Myth 4/4 with crit+haste (+6 ilvl but no mastery)?

-4% on mastery

[blazing jewel]

Sim

Ilvl on head usually good because it scales the enchant

[worthy cobalt]

Yeahhhh, simming it. Good point with the enchant, forgot to add that in the gear comparsion

hey, seems to be a miiiiiiiiinor upgrade with the enchant!

[balmy condor]

ilvl > everything typically

so

seems about right

[worthy cobalt]

depends on what trinkets I guess? If I use embersoul the mastery gives a big buff to damage no?

for example, last week I changed a Hero -> Myth, but got lower damage because I lost my Mastery from them

[balmy condor]

ashes will make mastery better

but like unless you're starved

usually won't matter

you're probably on the low end atm

[worthy cobalt]

exactly, but if I use my branch - not having the mastery is probably better

yeah im at 5k now

[balmy condor]

secondaries in general are just super whatever for assa

unless you're hard stacking vers or something stupid

it's just whatever you got in your bag and gg

[worthy cobalt]

hm okay

[balmy condor]

simming obviously better

but you've probably noticed that it's all very close

[royal lantern]

mate

sims tell me too do it

vers gems+vers enchants+very Neck

feeling like some shity yahtzee pirate

[balmy condor]

yeah, cause you don't have it on anything else

[royal lantern]

probs, ye

my gear is overall haste/crit heavy

[balmy condor]

gems and enchants basically just autocorrects everything

[royal lantern]

tbf

should not sim with branch if im using ashes anyway

but higher sim number go brrrr

[worthy cobalt]

This is what I got 🤷‍♂️

[balmy condor]

what the fuck

[drifting cloud]

what are you cooking man

[worthy cobalt]

LMAO what

[drifting cloud]

just sim, you dont even have to know how many secondaries you have

let alone making a sheet for them

[balmy condor]

why are we spreadsheeting stats

like it's 2004

[worthy cobalt]

hehe, it was an old one

just updated it cos you were talking about the statspread

[balmy condor]

but why

does that exist

[worthy cobalt]

initially it was to get an understanding on how many stats each piece gave

(the number on the right)

but anyway

[balmy condor]

I'll take "shit no one needs to know" for 100

[drifting cloud]

bis stat = ilvl 98% of time

solved

[balmy condor]

I mean if you find it useful

cool

but you're digging deeper into stats than any theorycrafter or high level player combined

[worthy cobalt]

wut

[balmy condor]

I'm calling you a nerd

from a guy who gets paid to play this game

[worthy cobalt]

do you get paid for being rude too, btw?

cos you seem to be working hard on that

[balmy condor]

I don't get paid to be rude no

I'm just havin fun man

not trying to be rude

[worthy cobalt]

but anyway, the spreadsheet was just when I started the playing the game

my main question was if y'all have any anecdotes for de-prioritizing bis stat in favour of branch

ie

mastery + embersoul
vs
not mastery + branch

i mean, the best thing we could do is stop playing assassination

[balmy condor]

I just resimmed my gems/enchants

and it was good enough

[drifting cloud]

you can swap ring stats if youre in the mood

or just bin branch and save mental

[quiet oar]

Rudespyr ????

[blazing jewel]

Needs more redbullspyr

[quiet oar]

Or Drunkspyr

[balmy condor]

chattingspyr

[blazing jewel]

[quiet oar]

Yappingspyr?

[balmy condor]

havin a giggle

being rude i guess

[worthy cobalt]

it's all good my dudes

it is wednesday, after all

[balmy condor]

true

wednesday is a good day

except for having to work

that part sucks

[worthy cobalt]

yeah, imma head in to the office now

[quiet oar]

You surely meant its all good my Rudes ?

[balmy condor]

it's all god?

[quiet oar]

Man i typoed

[blazing jewel]

Yo whisp my raid doesn’t give me pi do I play outlaw now!!!!!

[balmy condor]

[quiet oar]

YAPGOD X

So fitting

ngl

[balmy condor]

silence shit warrior

I bet you edge to gromnak

[blazing jewel]

?

[balmy condor]

nice job hiding the parse

[blazing jewel]

I’ll kiss you on the forehead lil bro

[balmy condor]

with tongue?

[quiet oar]

Frenchkiss

[blazing jewel]

It will be like the alien movies when one of the tentacles launches out and attacks the person

[quiet oar]

[balmy condor]

[quiet oar]

TentaclegodxScana

[blazing jewel]

[quiet oar]

Your Spriest Name

[blazing jewel]

Imagine playing ranged

[runic hinge]

I almost wanna play spriest s4 just to try ranged

[balmy condor]

do not

[runic hinge]

It’s a meme season either way

But if I’m not playing rogue idk who I would PI so I gotta figure out how to do both at once

[blazing jewel]

You’re one of the last few sin players

If you swap whisp will find your house

[quiet oar]

Sin Unplayable without PI

So dead

Also need that 34% crit breakpoint

[blazing jewel]

Don’t say breakpoint

Whispyr will attack again

[quiet oar]

PI and Aug desytroyed Assa !!!!

[royal lantern]

attack who

[blazing jewel]

[slim hamlet]

Wtf did I just read first thing in the morning

[royal lantern]

i mean, yeha they did

like they do with all specs

[slim hamlet]

They made us great in the first place

First say thank you, then say fuck you

[royal lantern]

if a spec is a Pi target in the first 1-2 weeks

just get that offspec ready or reroll

cus the nuke is comming

[slim hamlet]

Nah

They for sure delete PI in war within

Trust me

[royal lantern]

i mean, atleast they got the memo that Oracle SUCKS

so there is some hope

[slim hamlet]

(they tried to make a hero talent all about PI, PI is legit never getting removed xd)

Half of the feedback on Oracle​was more "wayyy too much going on" and not "we hate PI"

[royal lantern]

it was both

[slim hamlet]

I think that is the main reason they rework, not because it's PI no?

I guess we will see

[quiet oar]

Delete aug

[royal lantern]

it would be near unplayable in reality cus of the attention+time it needed ALL THE TIME when you are still supposed to heal, favored ranged over melee like crazy and had a big "just fuck off with externals allready, we dont like pi why focus even MORE on it" Backslash

[quiet oar]

and PI

[royal lantern]

yes

like

bruh if oracle released like that

do the oracle buff minigame every 50seconds

while also trying to ramp as disc

[slim hamlet]

I mean support shit is just never going away

[royal lantern]

or while channeling a cd as holy

[slim hamlet]

Since they doubled down on the aug+pres hero talent

[royal lantern]

we will see in the future

all it needs is some "support" focus for hunter/paladin, and all the redditors/forum users beeing forced too play it instead of mindless kill command/glowing button Spam

and the outrage will be BIG

[quiet oar]

i dont think they will ever touch any existing spec and make it a support spec

I mean they kinda layed this "support" fundament with some Covenants Abilities

[royal lantern]

dont need to touch a existing spec

just add a new one and it instantly deletes all other specs of a class

aka

evoker

dev prev what?

evoker is aug now

[quiet oar]

True

[royal lantern]

and always will be

nice going blizz

[quiet oar]

Make a 5th Druid spec

So Moonkins disappear

[royal lantern]

make a spec that has all the unique evoker utility things but ALSO has its own unique utility things at the same time that does infinite dmg and makes healing trivial

what could go wrong

oh wait

2specs might aswell dont exist anymore

[quiet oar]

And also makes your Details irrelevant

and you cant rely on logs

because you dont know if everything is displayed correct

[royal lantern]

this was litearlly the FIRST TIER SINCE AUG RELEASE

and logs where broken for how long????

and some bigbrains tell me its gonna be better in the future when its not the "new hot shit" anymore?

[quiet oar]

Like you wanna log on a Boss with a shield phase?

Better get 2 augs buffing you

nerd

Or your Details DMG is ass, it must be because you mad a mistake right? Or was it the aug

I just want reliable data

[quiet oar]

Best thing is, even with cheat death

Aug players are really good at dying

[blazing jewel]

25 yard range on a class with a healer in it was a terrible idea

[royal lantern]

wdym

just 1 healer with casual 33% less effective range

while not beeing exceptionaly mobile at the same time

and positional requirment on its heals

preservation has such good gameplay, but blizz throws 20wrenches into its gears to fuck it lol

[scarlet orbit]

wait they have a cheat death aswell

[quiet oar]

Yes

[scarlet orbit]

how they hell are they always dead then ??

[quiet oar]

I dont know

[scarlet orbit]

as long as there is only 1 Spec with that kind of utility it will never be good in my opinion. You have to play that spec if you need that kind of utility because you cannt play another spec

if you need a range dps with f.e. cr you can choose between bommie and lock what can you choose between aug and everything else? Nothing if you need him to survive you have to use it

[quiet oar]

Well

Aug makes you tank tankier

and make your DPS dpsier

has spatial Paradox

[royal lantern]

and makes healing easier

[quiet oar]

Well in Raid?

[scarlet orbit]

last tier there where bosses where some guilds buffed their heals to get away with less healers

[polar timber]

sheesh i sim 20k less than i do as sub

[royal lantern]

welcome to assassination

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[polar timber]

they really chose to kill this spec cause of pi eh

[split jewel]

Just gonna leave this "tier list" here

[distant ridge]

didnt know obliterate was long range

good to know

[split jewel]

I'd be surprised if this wasn't a ChapGPT tier list

[royal lantern]

there is a big part of people that think "has some abilitys that have a bit range" means "can do dmg from range"

i mean, we STILL have people in this discord saying "assa is not losing dmg on downtimes cus dots"

[royal lantern]

feral: melee pet spec

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meow-cute-gif-18625283

[split jewel]

Arms main selling point is interrupts and stuns, and WW's is being an Energy-based spec

[royal lantern]

"limited mobility" and "immobile" on every 2nd Spec

even when they are quiet mobile

[fringe oxide]

What website is this?

It has to be a troll

[royal lantern]

its 2024, saying "warlock has no mobility" is REEEALLY out of touch

its like saying "hunter is squishy"

no, not really

[split jewel]

"aoeah" is the site, tier list was linked by a guildy but its definitely some sketchy site

[fringe oxide]

Sub rogue has low mobility out of stealth

[fringe oxide]

Definitely one to avoid

[royal lantern]

outlaw has strong cooldown usage

👍

[split jewel]

Dev is a melee spec with a focus on interrupts/stuns lol

[clever sapphire]

did you just ignore the melee evoker?

[royal lantern]

its just "ai" generates garbage, nothing else

[royal lantern]

and pet spec feral

[clever sapphire]

maybe the guy who made the tierlist knew that there is no reason to take tierlists seriously

so he just started memeing

[royal lantern]

so whisp made it?

sandbagging assa AGAIN

[sharp viper]

classic whispyr

[split jewel]

him and his restealth agenda

[balmy condor]

I will go to the grave fighting the fucking restealth mongoloids

I’m willing to meet people halfway on a lot of things

[royal lantern]

why? they do no dmg fighting you, cant restealth

[balmy condor]

But those apes will not get an inch from me

I do not recognize them as my equal

[slim hamlet]

I just rerolled night elf because the game is unplayable without restealth

https://tenor.com/view/xdd-xdding-cat-cute-cursed-gif-27104766

[royal lantern]

meld is so jank

[slim hamlet]

(i didn't actually don't bully me)

[royal lantern]

even IF it would be important, man meld just decides whatever it wants anyway

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-cute-adorable-cat-bully-gif-15622607

[slim hamlet]

I never had an issue with meld

Unless you meld into an aoe and instantly get taken out, but that's a skill issue

[lusty kraken]

Whispyr spreading the restealth not being required propaganda so he can get high parses

[royal lantern]

cloak first

[slim hamlet]

Classic

https://tenor.com/view/smh-kanye-west-dumbass-no-gif-20416798

If stealth isn't important why does he start in stealth in raid then

The truth is out

[lusty kraken]

If stealth is not important, why do you use vanish?

Checkmate

[slim hamlet]

Down with the lies!​

[lusty kraken]

The reason why assa rogue does bad in m+ is because of shitty tanks not letting the rogue restealth 🤦‍♂️

[balmy condor]

Caught me red handed

My m+ parses

[slim hamlet]

For real

If people knew this information 34s would be done easily

[distant ridge]

WE NEED STEALTH AIGHT

[quiet oar]

Imagine this trick as Outlaw

[slim hamlet]

We all know only assassination needs restealth

[grim jay]

Warrior cant stealth

[quiet oar]

I mean

Can you call it Stealth

When you shoot a gun

[grim jay]

If it has a silencer

Video game logic intensifies

That will be a new glyph

[hot bluff]

Is augury any good for assa if you do not have branch or glass yet? Asking because I recently started and could get it from vault. Purisu aduvaisu!

[spice surge]

No

[rotund oak]

fun fact,warrior in vanilla beta had evasion and rogues used shields

[storm forum]

I want to yeet my rogue into the stratosphere.

[spice spire]

You changed

[royal lantern]

quake

any plans of playing wow again in next Expansion?

[buoyant mauve]

!whispyr

didn't whispyr have a spreadsheet like fuu?

[midnight mist]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?ex=65592c45&is=6546b745&hm=6a1849f8319d284826b46f6e257e341b8146d1cfe4944d74f6c4442650e080e5&

[spice spire]

This fucking guy

[midnight mist]

It's me

[steel ridge]

he abandoned it

[digital venture]

@balmy condor I've seen your latest video and noticed you said our craft stats should be what we lack the most even if it's haste versa?

[shy pecan]

[fallow canopy]

[quaint hull]

Thats what happens when ur overstatted. so yea kinda

[rotund oak]

the stats are very close to each other so whatever sims best for you its the best answer

but in general no

haste/mast

[rare jackal]

does the headenchant work on season 4 gear?

[royal lantern]

dont see a reason why it should not work

[digital venture]

thanks @rotund oak and @quaint hull