assassination

[plucky canopy]

i was already ready to end this season without one, but looking at my guild mates rogue twinks with 2 off that 😄

but now i can have some fun for 3 weeks 😄

do we know if next season the hardmode will drop the dagger at higher ilvl btw? 😄

[sharp viper]

gz!

[runic hinge]

Would be hero track but idk if it's worth farming

Talking maybe 1% but probably lower on a super low drop chance once a week.

If that's your idea of fun in a throwaway season tho maybe go for it

[plucky canopy]

Doesn´t sound that fun, but here i am doing 8x dungeons per week just to get that 489 dagger for less than 1% 😄

[runic hinge]

I just don't think I want that frustration in my life. Going there and just hoping it's the 1 piece outta 11 or whatever

[clever sapphire]

i wont touch dawn ever again unless there is a 10% gain

[balmy condor]

Hard mode wouldn’t increase the item level of the dagger

Highest dagger can drop is champ track

[runic hinge]

Ohh, only end boss loot is hero track?

Makes sense

[balmy condor]

Ye

[runic hinge]

Okay I'm never going in doti

[clever sapphire]

i have a feeling that champ timestrike in offhand is still gonna be bis

[balmy condor]

It is

[runic hinge]

I can't imagine its by enough I'll care

[clever sapphire]

ya same

[plucky canopy]

oh okay good to know

[royal lantern]

also helps that its like

fated season

lol

aint gonna chase a shity rng drop for a meme season

[runic hinge]

Yeah fr

I probably would for a real season but I'm a little unhinged

[late birch]

possible to preimmune first firestorms on mythic fyrakk? any knowers?

[royal lantern]

you mean getting the puddle?

nope, you get it, its no dmg effect on you or smth like that

[shy pecan]

Kinda wonder what wow would be like if we had a more deterministic system

[runic hinge]

People would complain

[clever sapphire]

people will always complain no matter what you do

[runic hinge]

Yeah, I went for the easy answer

[clever sapphire]

so did i

(you didnt ask ik)

i just wanted to be the guy who stated the obvious

[runic hinge]

People would just complain things are too easy, comlain there's nothing to keep them logging in every week etc.

As opposed to now where people complain about drop rates and vault rng and chase items

[rain oyster]

is there prelim PTR sims of all specs for season 4 somewhere yet? Debating playing rogue warr or pala

[clever sapphire]

well all the specs are gonna be in the same spot pretty much, but with higher numbers

[rain oyster]

🤔

[clever sapphire]

but no no ptr sims afaik

[royal lantern]

reading that makes me angry, i will complain about it on the forum

[spice spire]

[clever sapphire]

do it no ballz

[quiet oar]

Tell me you are a german, without telling me you are a german

[spice spire]

Ich spreche nicht gut Deutsch

[quiet oar]

Dont worry

[clever sapphire]

BE HAPPY

[quiet oar]

i cant

im german

[clever sapphire]

this shit is living rentfree in my head whenever i see dont worry

[shy pecan]

Bless you

[spice spire]

Yeah I caught the German ty

[royal lantern]

turning into seli

[spice spire]

Slowly

Every day I’m moving closer in age to him

[shy pecan]

Nothing wrong with that

[vestal wren]

i hope not

[clever sapphire]

wait how does that work

did he just stop aging

[spice spire]

Dint think about it

[clever sapphire]

im too austrian to not think about something pointless

[spice spire]

Don’t you have to be worrying about kangaroos (I know it’s you said Austria, this is an American caricature statement)

[clever sapphire]

i usually fight them on my way to the train

im safe at home

[shy pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/kangaroo-scratch-gif-18029359

[bronze pike]

kangaroos are bis

[runic hinge]

Damn. S4 bis list is wild

[spice spire]

Ur bis

[storm forum]

It would be so good if whispyr's BiS list was just an anagram for tonynugz

[blazing jewel]

S4 bis list has exit game at #1 for every slot

[spice spire]

Touch grass mfers when

[shy pecan]

[blazing jewel]

[split jewel]

are there any TWW pre-alpha sims yet?

[gusty mirage]

[balmy condor]

I will not eat the bait

[ember mural]

[spice surge]

One of the three wise men right here

[versed mica]

Outlaw s4 bis pretuning list dropped!!! I wonder when whispyr gon drop one for sin

[keen spruce]

[storm forum]

Do brain folds help or hinder us?

[spice spire]

This channel says hinder

Tbd

[storm forum]

ok im watching elmo impersonators in an attempts to get rid of the folds

if they dont go away by halfway through raid i'll start the substance abuse

[bronze pike]

Y’all just jelly or my smooth brain

Smoothest brain I’m the west

No wonder the sin revamp ideas slide off

[spice surge]

A spec that only does damage every 2 minutes is gonna want a trinket that gives it stats every 2 minutes (aka ashes)

And for its other slot its gonna want the best passive trinket available (aka probably icon)

[balmy condor]

actually fucking hate you

people fiending for info 3 weeks before a patch goes live

what you gonna do with it

write it on a chalkboard like bart simpson?

I will buy bomb dispenser with my first dinar
I will buy bomb dispenser with my first dinar
I will buy bomb dispenser with my first dinar
I will buy bomb dispenser with my first dinar

be so fr

[gilded oasis]

hey whispyr do you have s5 sims?

[bright cipher]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1101555284285063188.gif?size=160&quality=lossless

[gilded oasis]

it looked lit on the notes

[bright cipher]

the war within one was funnier

[versed mica]

❤️

[versed mica]

Don't diss my whiteboard bis list

I need that on a shirt

[spice spire]

You need some bitches

[versed mica]

Just wait till you read my roll the poisons suggestion for sin

[spice surge]

First poison flurry and now this

[spice spire]

I’m a sin OTP I can’t read

[plucky warren]

i swear nobody invites sin rogue

ive been waiting like 45 min

im ilvl 450 applying for +11's

and i keep getting inv and then kicked

or just declined :/

[winged sun]

Make ur own groups

If ur planning to play an off meta spec

U wont get invited most of the time

So u do the invites

[plucky warren]

lol

far

[bronze pike]

https://tenor.com/view/bart-school-punition-simpson-writing-gif-12218494

[storm forum]

we did it

we got prog

on an off night without our main tank and best baiters

[woeful meteor]

[runic hinge]

[storm forum]

^ me

[plucky warren]

Smh I hop on my BM hunter and get insta accepted into groups and do top dmg more than ppl with 10-15 higher ilvl 😭

[shy pecan]

Having a lust and a short CD on a CC for incorp is pretty nice this week

[rotund oak]

[marble hemlock]

i will buy irideus fragment with my first dinar
i will buy irideus fragment with my first dinar
i will buy irideus fragment with my first dinar
i will buy irideus fragment with my first dinar

(can you even buy m+ items)

(probably not)

[balmy condor]

idk

[marble hemlock]

(does it still sim wrong?)

[balmy condor]

ashes probably though

it does sim wrong yes

[marble hemlock]

so it could be bis

[balmy condor]

but that means its oversimming

[marble hemlock]

we just dont know it

[balmy condor]

I mean

no

[quiet oar]

Is puzzle box a contender?

[marble hemlock]

so youre saying i oculd get #1 simdps on wowprog with irideus?

[balmy condor]

because it was oversimming the entire patch and ashes is beating it

so you just play ashes

[marble hemlock]

nah

im gonna play puzzlebox+grieftorch

and become a channeling god

[quiet oar]

based

[balmy condor]

banger

[steel ridge]

[quiet oar]

[marble hemlock]

on demand damage

all

[quiet oar]

Just use the Nymue trinket

and ignore the int

[marble hemlock]

nymue has a trinket?

[quiet oar]

Ye caster trinket

[marble hemlock]

oh

[quiet oar]

Channel that does dmg and gives you mastery

[balmy condor]

play belorelos

[marble hemlock]

only caster trinket id play is the one from eye of azshara

[balmy condor]

anyway

me go finish sims and then write pin yep

[marble hemlock]

based

id sub to you but i know you prefer to be topped

[steel ridge]

so it has begun

[royal lantern]

ah yes, the vault classic

[steel ridge]

do we have any solid idea how the Awakened Raids are going to be tuned compared to the powergain in BiS Gear?

[balmy condor]

power gain and raid tuning is the same as any other season

[marble hemlock]

ye its gonna be like

raszageth is gonna be a meme for anybody who progressed the fight prenerf, for example

since it got nerfed like 17 times

[royal lantern]

tbf, i expect some "oh wait yeha, that was a thing" moments

and broodkeeper is gonna be a horrible fight again

cus its a horrible fight by desing

[balmy condor]

the damage and health scaling already got datamined off of PTR

[quiet oar]

There are no Affixes

yet

right

[balmy condor]

and it's the same % gain as before

[marble hemlock]

theres no affixes, no

[balmy condor]

correct

[marble hemlock]

and yeah broodkeeper is gonna be annoying mainly because youll likely hit 40% waaay before youre done with eggs

[quiet oar]

Because Affixes made Fated pretty easy

[balmy condor]

so gear creep is +-roughly the same and the raid is tuned +- roughly the same

[steel ridge]

so roughly everything +40-50%

[balmy condor]

yeh

[marble hemlock]

anyone else arbitrarily going to be unable to raid every 3 weeks when its aberrus time, because they dont wanna do echo again?

[balmy condor]

once you get geared it's basically like doing farm raiding in the given patches

problem is that you have to get the gear first

[steel ridge]

thats really meh

[balmy condor]

so you'll probably feel the gear impact from being undergeared

and then as you remember the fights and gear

you'll start smashing it like farm

[marble hemlock]

i mean its not release tuning though, keep that in mind

[quiet oar]

They will surely make the Private Arua revert like on fyrakk right?

[marble hemlock]

so while the dps/healing requirement might be high, the mechanical execution required to kill these bosses is much lower than it was on release of each of these raids

[balmy condor]

yyeh

[marble hemlock]

this isnt supposed to be deep progression for anybody except those who never killed these bosses when they were current

and for those, getting more gear and returning 3weeks later will make a massive difference

[twilit jacinth]

Should we use shiv in m+ and aoe on cd?

[quiet oar]

a "good" thing for awakened would be if its as hard as in current patches with full Gear, with 490 ilvl

[marble hemlock]

fated is a "bingchill and play other games while you raidlog" season, unless you like m+.

[quiet oar]

So it gets much easier with 520

[royal lantern]

aka how most seasons work allready

[marble hemlock]

thats what it is

[balmy condor]

you want to save at MINIMUM one shiv for the end of kingsbane, ideally both

[blazing jewel]

I LOVE FATED

[quiet oar]

[blazing jewel]

[marble hemlock]

whispyr

why does my shiv only give 1 CP when i hit fyrakk, 2 colossi and a bunch of screaming souls with it?

[quiet oar]

Go back to SL scana when you want fated

[balmy condor]

skill issue

[quiet oar]

We do Awakened now

[marble hemlock]

get eggshells in your omelette

[balmy condor]

but knowing you seli, you're probably not talented into arterial cause you're doing some dumb shit again

[marble hemlock]

i am

[quiet oar]

Ruby Eggshells?

[marble hemlock]

it just doesnt give proper CP

[blazing jewel]

whispyr can you make a custom sim for tiny toxic blade specifically for padding on fyrakk adds

[marble hemlock]

he has a private sim for that already

havent you seen his parse?

[balmy condor]

I've tried for the race and its ass

[blazing jewel]

I can pay you with 5 plunderstorm doubloons

[blazing jewel]

yes he was very ethical

[marble hemlock]

you get access to his private sims if youre a t3 sub or higher on his fansly

[balmy condor]

y'all don't know the absolute filteredword shit I sim and fiddle with during race dude

[marble hemlock]

i do

[balmy condor]

double paladin blessing for cdr on smolderon

[marble hemlock]

and i laugh in german as you do it

[royal lantern]

whisp, we see you lose sanity in realtime at every patch launch

[blazing jewel]

seli my raid was big bully to me when I was playing sin on fyrakk

they said I was doing blood dk damage to the small adds

[marble hemlock]

anyone from your raid in ravenholdt?

[balmy condor]

is pleb back

[blazing jewel]

what do you mean is he back

[balmy condor]

@indigo ether

PLEB GOAT

[marble hemlock]

@indigo ether good job bullying scana.

[blazing jewel]

you were the one that punished him

[balmy condor]

I love you pleb

[blazing jewel]

hes probably asleep

[marble hemlock]

anyone else from your guild i can thank for bullying you?

[blazing jewel]

it wasnt him it was the winged purple class

[balmy condor]

I kicked him for funny and he treated it like a ban and just disappeared for like 2 months

[marble hemlock]

wait

hold up

wait wait wait

you got bullied by a DEMONHUNTER and you took it like a good lil scana?

[blazing jewel]

yes

lil bro pressed imo aura 19 times when small adds spawned and slurped all our pad

[marble hemlock]

have you no shame?

[blazing jewel]

and then spawned a gnarlroot to pad on

[marble hemlock]

seems like he knew what he was doing

[blazing jewel]

oh he does

[balmy condor]

my rank 2 was basically only possible because the demon hunter was out that day

[marble hemlock]

meanwhile scana watching from the cuckchair while the chaDH was enjoying padding

[blazing jewel]

the smallies

[balmy condor]

MY PAD

[marble hemlock]

i forgot to spec out of spatter after tindral

i felt very dirty

[blazing jewel]

smallies when I played sin

[balmy condor]

seli I tried to play internal bleeding on fyrakk like 2 weeks ago for a farm kill

[blazing jewel]

how did it feel

[balmy condor]

and we ran out of aoe stops on the second add set

cause I wasn't doing add damage

[blazing jewel]

[balmy condor]

and I was asked to swap back to caustic

[marble hemlock]

self-made problems tbf

[blazing jewel]

how

[balmy condor]

brother idk

[blazing jewel]

we assign basically nothing to the golems and we still have to wait a few seconds for boss to land

[marble hemlock]

because instead of teaching his raid how to fish, he just gave them fish every week. so when he stopped giving fish, they went hungry

[blazing jewel]

so they want to spawn gnarlroots every week

[balmy condor]

we wiped and they were like why the fuck did things take forever to die

and I was like well I didn't aoe was trying something

[marble hemlock]

stop bragging that your healers actually manage to heal the adds well enough that you dont wipe if you get gnarlroots

[balmy condor]

and they went "can you maybe not"

and so I swapped back to caustic

[blazing jewel]

[marble hemlock]

ye idk

[balmy condor]

and assumed the position

[marble hemlock]

first wave i can kinda get it cuz dmg is lower but

you usually pop DM on 2nd colossi dont you

that shit dies instantly

[royal lantern]

meanwhile i got a 13 parse on first kill cus i had boss duty+our wft guy stopped playing the prior week

[balmy condor]

on reclear this week with dm on 2nd colossi we almost missed the core eruption or whatever two or three times

[blazing jewel]

[marble hemlock]

https://i.imgur.com/o6SA9tA.png

[balmy condor]

shits legit alive for 35 seconds

and I'm the only one hitting it

[marble hemlock]

im the fyrakk parsegod

[blazing jewel]

what I ended up doing for the 1 sin log I have for fyrakk

[balmy condor]

on cd

based

[blazing jewel]

yes

only 1 kb gets kinda scuffed

the one right after intermission

last few seconds he is flying away

which I think he still takes damage I just cant poison him anymore

[balmy condor]

I am also on cooldown

[marble hemlock]

idk

[blazing jewel]

[royal lantern]

above the #1

[marble hemlock]

i dont get PI either so

i stopped caring a long time ago

frostdk getting PI

[blazing jewel]

I told my priest im getting pi for my last main raid or im lobotomizing myself

he was a trial so he thought I was serious

[balmy condor]

is that supposed to be a reason to give you pi, or a reason to avoid giving it to you at all costs

[blazing jewel]

[blazing jewel]

versdk is that you

[marble hemlock]

idk parses are stupid so i dont really give a fuck

i do my slavecalling on fyrakk

and have value that way

[balmy condor]

"give me pi or I will lobotomize myself"
shit okay scana damn just say you didn't want it I wasn't gonna give it to you anyway fucking hell

[blazing jewel]

I think if half of these bosses were in another tier

they would be taken off allstars

this is a meme parse tier

[marble hemlock]

i mean

thats not how it works tho i think

[balmy condor]

scana have you seen my sandwich

[blazing jewel]

[marble hemlock]

i dont think getting lobotomized a second time has any additional effect

and scana clearly already had one

[balmy condor]

rank 4 smold, green tindral, rank 2 fyrakk

[blazing jewel]

🤫 🧏‍♂️ 😏 🗿

[blazing jewel]

oh I have one of those

[steel ridge]

thats the way

[blazing jewel]

watch this

[marble hemlock]

https://i.imgur.com/ttuSW3Z.png

[blazing jewel]

they said I was the second buyer on smolderon lmfao

[balmy condor]

bro that's not a sandwich that's a moldy slice of bread on the bottom

[blazing jewel]

sin main btw

[balmy condor]

for sure

[blazing jewel]

I wanted to play it the entire tier

[marble hemlock]

why didnt you

[balmy condor]

am I improving as a player or am I just getting more degenerate

[marble hemlock]

the latter

[balmy condor]

makes sense thanks for keeping me honest

[blazing jewel]

[marble hemlock]

ill bill you later

[blazing jewel]

I think 24 last tier was more impressive tbh

[marble hemlock]

did you know that duck bills look like dogmasks?

[blazing jewel]

a lot more sin players

at least it felt like a lot mroe

[steel ridge]

gamer

[marble hemlock]

duck or dog?

[balmy condor]

I hope when you go to bed you remember me telling you to breathe manually and then don't fall asleep for 25 minutes trying to not think about breathing

[blazing jewel]

moose

hey seli

hydrate

[marble hemlock]

scana failed at animals

color me surprised

[blazing jewel]

arent you eu

its colour bozo

[marble hemlock]

yes

[balmy condor]

no that's stealthi

[marble hemlock]

i use american english sorry

[royal lantern]

lets ask @keen spruce

[marble hemlock]

i drink 3-4L a day so

thanks ig?

[blazing jewel]

is that before or after you redeem !hydrate

[marble hemlock]

jokes on you, i have central sleep apnea, im already forcing myself to breathe because my body/brain forgets

[balmy condor]

damn

so you're like a special type of stupid or what

[marble hemlock]

ye

100%

i have a card

[blazing jewel]

what effects does it have

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-card-gif-10921362

[marble hemlock]

https://i.imgur.com/soE2RTV.png

[balmy condor]

3 mana 3/4 taunt

[marble hemlock]

so youre making fun of a disabled person right now

how does it feel?

[balmy condor]

pretty good

[marble hemlock]

based

[balmy condor]

I like putting other people down for things they can't control

makes me feel like I'm better

[blazing jewel]

if you two stinky bozos dont contribute to the secret sin thread more

I will write on the forums

[marble hemlock]

which one?

[balmy condor]

the meow one

[marble hemlock]

not exactly secret if you talk about it publicly, is it?

[blazing jewel]

its super secret

[balmy condor]

insanely secret

threads don't exist in the eyes of discord

that's why you can't search for pictures of stuart

[marble hemlock]

there you go

[blazing jewel]

whispyr has to put on the murloc onesie and do his lil hop dance to unlock it

[marble hemlock]

its an old one

i dont have new ones

but the nova selfie is kinda good

[blazing jewel]

very good

might compare to the mochi selfie

[half field]

go to bed scana

[blazing jewel]

[half field]

i come here to do some light reading

and ur still awake

[blazing jewel]

[balmy condor]

my bed

come to my bed

[blazing jewel]

do you have snacks

[midnight mist]

@blazing jewel

yo

[blazing jewel]

im a lil hungry rn

[blazing jewel]

I will ping you in a voice channel

[midnight mist]

no you wont

bruh

[blazing jewel]

[midnight mist]

i cnat even see it look

[balmy condor]

I will delete the voice channels

[blazing jewel]

its actually too easy

[midnight mist]

its fine

I pinged daps to avenge myself

[blazing jewel]

something something that is your trial officer you will respect him

[midnight mist]

is he an officer?

wtf

[blazing jewel]

I have no idea

[midnight mist]

its so over for me

[blazing jewel]

if you fail your trial

you will trial in whispyrs guild as a feral druid

[drifting cloud]

then the golem will explode

[midnight mist]

no

[drifting cloud]

needs to be boomie

[midnight mist]

if I fail my trial im never playing sub ever again

[royal lantern]

fail pls

do yourself the favor

[midnight mist]

no

[blazing jewel]

[midnight mist]

?

[fierce sigil]

Is sub harder or easier to Execute than assa?

[steel ridge]

depends on your background, i´d say its a bit harder

[royal lantern]

right now, somewhat yeha

[balmy condor]

Season 4 awakened info bonanza spectacular

Last Update <t:1714190040:R> (Hardmode drops hero track lmao)

Trinkets

ALL DUNGEON TRINKETS ARE KINDA ASS AND UNDESIRED
Raid

• Ashes + Grieftorch (or signet for long fights)
• Make sure you're using one on-use. Just like now, you never want to run double passive because the burst is just so important
• Ashes > Puzzle Box for the on-use slot, ashes is by far the clear option
  M+
• Storm-Eater's Boon + Ashes (or call to suffering/icon)
• Suprising literally no one, boon is ridiculous
• The other trinket here doesn't matter much just pick your favorite

Embellishments

• Double Blue Silk Lining, Maybe flaring cowl if you're weird
• Seal of Diruna's Chosen is being procced from the igira helm enchant for the most part. Shadow patch sucks, toxic patch/boots kinda suck too. Flaring cowl can be okay but it's awkward to fit in
• Double blue silk lining wins at around 40-42% uptime. BSL uptime can swing a lot based on your group, skill, and content. Recommendation here is probably to craft 1 since it's all but guaranteed to be BiS, check your uptime, then decide on crafting a second or going cowl/shadow patch or something.
• Embellishments in general are super weak in terms of damage output so if you want to craft something real bad, go for it

Other Fun Items

• Seal of Diurna's Chosen -> BiS ring because fire damage proc do damage good yep
• Nick of Time -> BiS by 0.4% everywhere at m0 item level. You will want to do this on hard mode for a hero track nick of time. Begin hardmode by talking to the guy at the start of the dungeon at regular m0 difficulty
• Voice of the Silent Star -> BiS, It's a cloak but instead of stamina it's a proc for more damage. I don't think it's worth it for pushing mythic+, the stamina is important to survive and the damage gain isn't THAT good
• Seal of Filial Duty -> Potential BiS as a higher ilevel ring, but you will need to check. Not BiS in sims, but you are not sims, you are a person reading a pin for gear recommendations

Last info dump

• There are no affixes for the raid
• The dungeon pool is the original dragonflight dungeons, no Dawn of the Infinite. You can still do Dawn of the Infinite on the base mythic level to get 515 gear (522 from hardmode), and you will want to farm the second boss for Nick of Time
• We are using the same tier set
• Talents have not changed
• Rotation has not changed
• Secondary stats don't matter that much I really hate having to talk about them but we must. In the new season with ashes and incarnate icon being such strong picks, we will have a large influx of crit, and again missing mastery on-burst like we had with puzzle box. We are still running wafting devotion. Mastery > Crit > Haste = Vers for the most part remains true across all content, but it will swing back and forth a lot please sim yourself

[royal lantern]

but will you make a video overviewing all of this

[balmy condor]

amen sister

but it is 3am so sleep first

[royal lantern]

video where?????

[balmy condor]

true

based even

[dark token]

Bsl was simmed at 40% uptime?

[quiet oar]

Record the video first, plug it in the Pin

Stonks

[blazing jewel]

How many redbulls

[balmy condor]

0

Not caffeinated today

[quiet oar]

He runs with the Love of Ravenholdt

[blazing jewel]

Whisp what about blazefury medallion neck

With the ring combo

[quiet oar]

Ye

I have that Neck

where sim

[midnight mist]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[balmy condor]

Die

[blazing jewel]

[quiet oar]

Imagine

[blazing jewel]

Or the fire damage food I messaged you about when I was in a delirious state

[quiet oar]

a 463 neck competes with an 528 neck

[blazing jewel]

Yes

Power

[quiet oar]

I dont want to live in this world

[royal lantern]

outlaw moment

[quiet oar]

i dont think its competing

[royal lantern]

ye ik

but that would be a peak outlaw thing

[quiet oar]

(im too scared to check it)

[royal lantern]

including people telling you how its actually awesome desinged

[midnight mist]

ugliest pin in all of rh

cool info tho

[blazing jewel]

Never forget

[balmy condor]

Big compliment coming from the ugliest guy in ravenholdt, you’re an expert

[midnight mist]

WTF

[blazing jewel]

[quiet oar]

[midnight mist]

[blazing jewel]

Be careful he hasn’t had caffeine

He’s a rabid animal rn

[quiet oar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1212526973830570026/zachate.gif

[steel ridge]

hello, 911? i want to report a murder

[royal lantern]

yellow names need little ingame icons next to every ability/talent/trinket name man

[balmy condor]

Sorry I don’t have a discord full of icons that will be obsolete in 6 months Zac

[bronze pike]

Wow that was unnecessarily brutal

[quiet oar]

Whisp just killed zac

[midnight mist]

i will just update them

[blazing jewel]

[balmy condor]

True

I won’t

[midnight mist]

[balmy condor]

[midnight mist]

you are so mad

you dont have the pretty icons

[bronze pike]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1083948841163829388.gif?size=56&quality=lossless

[midnight mist]

solo has them aswell

[bronze pike]

Both mad cause they don’t have baers

[midnight mist]

also its not 1 discord

its 3

[blazing jewel]

Can’t wait for Zac to ctrl f his apl and see 79 results for feint next xpac

[midnight mist]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1083948841163829388.gif?size=56&quality=lossless

[balmy condor]

Kinda actually yeah they’re pretty cool but I highkey can’t be fucked

[bronze pike]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1083948841163829388.gif?size=56&quality=lossless

[midnight mist]

[bronze pike]

Boonin

[royal lantern]

feinster Sublaw is PEAK GAMEPLAY

[steel ridge]

feini

[balmy condor]

None of these words have been blessed by god

[bronze pike]

Go full scorch earth

Killing spree replaces feint as the trigger talent

[midnight mist]

doesnt even take that long tbh, i just have a file with all icons, and add them when i need them

makes everything so much prettier

[quiet oar]

KAZZAK NECK IS JUST -0.3% IN COMPARISON TO 528 VOLCO NECK @royal lantern

[midnight mist]

I can invite you but there aint any sin icons

so

[quiet oar]

[blazing jewel]

[balmy condor]

Yeah I’m sure there’s a system to it

Maybe for 11.0

Meme season though

[bronze pike]

False

Say sike

Sike rn

[blazing jewel]

Please sim neck + thorn boot embellishments vs patch+lining

I need content

[quiet oar]

It was for outlaw

[balmy condor]

If it was -0.3% to a 528 neck it would be bis right now

[blazing jewel]

[balmy condor]

No dooming

[quiet oar]

Didnt clarify

[balmy condor]

Use brain

[midnight mist]

will we get another event thing to farm the neck or

idk how often they do that

[bronze pike]

I only have kazz neck on main

[balmy condor]

Intellectualize yourself irl

[bronze pike]

Not on rogue alt

[blazing jewel]

I’m feeling real intelligent rn

[bronze pike]

Rachella wasn’t lucky

[midnight mist]

no

[quiet oar]

I dont think its good for Sin

[midnight mist]

scana analyze my smold log

go

[blazing jewel]

Okay

[balmy condor]

Didn’t proc

Did I do it

[midnight mist]

no idea idk how to play sub

[blazing jewel]

Were you on tomelvis or tompelvis

[balmy condor]

Same tbh

[midnight mist]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZYFVWRH4APGwQfhc#fight=19&type=damage-done tomelvis brudha

[blazing jewel]

If you don’t stop vanishing in dance I will shave your lil mustache off

[royal lantern]

what about shadowdust feint minmaxing

with its own timers on all bosses

[quiet oar]

Rip no sphic procs in dmg amp

[midnight mist]

kieron told me to do that to have it back in the last phase

[balmy condor]

Making sure feints on cd for dust

Pog

[midnight mist]

i think he is right i dont remember

[royal lantern]

trickster is such a garbage fire

[blazing jewel]

don’t think you need to do that

[balmy condor]

On smold no

[steel ridge]

skill issue

[balmy condor]

Don’t think so

Tindral is the one that’s cooked

[midnight mist]

i follow orders

who am I to doubt kieron

[blazing jewel]

Rip my vod is gone

Was going to check

[balmy condor]

Double cheeseburger extra cheese no burger 3 orders of fries and a large diet zero all sugar water

[royal lantern]

Zac

[midnight mist]

nuh uh, you aint getting all that

i cam make you microwaved pastats

[balmy condor]

Oh ok

[midnight mist]

if you ask nicely

[quiet oar]

He can also make you

Microwaved Steak

[balmy condor]

I microwaved a frozen egg one time

[bronze pike]

Both of you

Cursed

Non of u are free of sin

[balmy condor]

Fridge got too cold, eggs froze

[blazing jewel]

It’s not up insta but like 2-3s delay

[balmy condor]

Needed to do science

[bronze pike]

Boil it

[quiet oar]

Microwaved Scana?

[midnight mist]

i killed it just before this phase last raid anyway

[blazing jewel]

I don’t think that would taste good

[midnight mist]

was really cursed kill timer

[blazing jewel]

Yea you don’t even get last one unless you have double buyer

[balmy condor]

Lame + boring + white guy type of opinion + probably great in bed + give me smooch

[midnight mist]

if i do tho, it would be worth to do the early vanish

but idk

i think im gonna continue doing it

just incase

[blazing jewel]

Say goodbye to your mustache

[bronze pike]

No u+the right choice+latino chads conversating+thinking same+mwah

I sleep now

[balmy condor]

Wish that was me

[blazing jewel]

Yea now you’re too busy simming the kazzak neck

[bronze pike]

I wish I was asleep already

[balmy condor]

No I’m in bed

[bronze pike]

Kazan neck keeps me awake

[blazing jewel]

How many paralysis demons

[balmy condor]

Here’s proof of me in bed where I was gonna send a black picture for funny but instead the flash turned on and now my eyes hurt and it’s much funnier

[blazing jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-comfy-gif-26415216

[bronze pike]

Bundled up

Flashbanged

[midnight mist]

[balmy condor]

We warm for sure

[midnight mist]

so cute

[balmy condor]

Actually me but crop the onto it

Who decided to add a front camera flash on phones

Demonic

[blazing jewel]

When is the next hair color

[bronze pike]

There’s a lot of flashbang gifs

[blazing jewel]

And what color will it be

[balmy condor]

Idk maybe a month and we do more red for tww

Thonking

[midnight mist]

red ??

banger

[blazing jewel]

I miss sepsis

[quick matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-close-up-blinking-too-bright-gif-11026908

[subtle tundra]

how can 1 guy look so cute

[rare jackal]

bro is having a nightmare about secondary stats

"no NO THERE ARE NO BREAKPOINTS"

[royal lantern]

the only thing that breaks is his hope in humanity

[rotund oak]

where's linux,WHAT DID YOU DO TO HIM?!!?

😅

[gilded oasis]

Linux took the picture

[gilded oasis]

I just re-upped my red. Feels good

[spice spire]

That’s good

[fringe oxide]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[bitter crow]

anyone else can't log in?

[prime gale]

can anyone link me a good guide for assassination that is up to date?

[royal lantern]

wowhead guide is up to date.....?

and like, it has all the information you need

[balmy condor]

Can you link me a guide that isn’t up to date though

Checkmate

[bronze pike]

https://www.noxxic.com/wow/guide/assassination-rogue/talent-builds

@balmy condor

Check mate

[glad hamlet]

Noxxic?! That's a name I haven't heard of in a long time

[glad hamlet]

https://www.herodamage.com/rogue/combinations-fulls/1t-t28-assassination

[agile geode]

is wow working ?

[midnight mist]

where s4 sims

[sharp viper]

where BIS item list telling me exactly what I should get

[frosty bridge]

where s4 bis list

[bronze pike]

Pins

[quiet oar]

oh no

[balmy condor]

Hey for tier 28 that’s accurate

[balmy condor]

No fair dude Noxxic is cheating

[runic hinge]

I was gonna try the forums to see if someone had a guide there and I think I need a lobotomy stat

[balmy condor]

I think there’s a user-made assassination guide on wowhead

[balmy condor]

But idk if bros still on that grind

[midnight mist]

show sim or bozo

[spice spire]

Likewise mister Zachary

[midnight mist]

its zacharie

actually

[spice spire]

Trickster sims when

[spice spire]

Sorry I don’t speak French

[midnight mist]

get working quake, I need sims

and I need them fast

[spice spire]

Brother I haven’t opened world of Warcraft since October 28, 2023

Tf you mean you need sims

[midnight mist]

you dont need to open wow to sim what ?

just open raidbot

ask solo he doesnt have a sub either

[spice spire]

I’m gonna hit filter

[midnight mist]

[shy pecan]

wut

[spice spire]

I’m not solo! Don’t lump us together because we live in the same state!!

[midnight mist]

oh you do

texas !

[shy pecan]

What's with good outlaw TCs not playing WoW

[midnight mist]

I play wow ty

[runic hinge]

he said good

[midnight mist]

yep

[visual coyote]

They can't press killing spree on farm so quit

[spice surge]

No bully zac

[shy pecan]

No Koji, no solo

[balmy condor]

Zac’s my favorite guy who’s name starts with z

I goofed it

[midnight mist]

[balmy condor]

Back to bed I guess

[shy pecan]

Not my fault he's the fourth coolest person in Advance

[midnight mist]

@spice spire florida?

I know its florida

[spice spire]

No

Dear god

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[midnight mist]

fuck

[spice surge]

They just mad theyre no longer getting any nocco

[midnight mist]

Im almost out of states i know

california @spice spire

[shy pecan]

TRUE

[spice spire]

Ik ur being halfway serious

And I hate it

[midnight mist]

im 100% serious

I got one more

then its gg

alright its Ohio then @spice spire

[spice spire]

[midnight mist]

I got it 4th try ez

[spice spire]

I am not an ohio man

[midnight mist]

yeye sure

[spice spire]

That’s @cerulean walrus

[proven jasper]

Michigan

[midnight mist]

dont try to gaslight me mister ohio guy

[spice spire]

Nop

[midnight mist]

oh ye michigan good one

[cerulean walrus]

[midnight mist]

ohio sounds cooler tho

[cerulean walrus]

Why on earth have I been summoned here?

[proven jasper]

Seems like a michigan guy to me

[quiet oar]

Goergia

[spice spire]

Close but no

[cerulean walrus]

Spec channels are worse than Ohio

[bronze pike]

You didn’t e specify rules

Skill issue

[spice spire]

Dog I dox myself multiple times a day

[quiet oar]

its alabama

[spice spire]

Let’s not get hyperbolic

[quiet oar]

right

[bronze pike]

Canada

[spice spire]

Dear god no

[cerulean walrus]

Is it though?

[spice spire]

Ye

[midnight mist]

did I say arizona

its arizona ?

[spice spire]

No but no

[midnight mist]

it is arizona

[quiet oar]

Tennessee

[midnight mist]

bro im so good at this

[spice spire]

We got a winner

[midnight mist]

YOO

[spice spire]

[shy pecan]

Tira's just looking at a map now

[balmy condor]

True

[quiet oar]

[shy pecan]

No EU person should ever know Tennesee

[cerulean walrus]

[balmy condor]

Brother let’s not get anechoic

[cerulean walrus]

Whispyr back me up here

[quiet oar]

Well i watch wrestling

So i hear the names of the states

quite often

so

[shy pecan]

[balmy condor]

[cerulean walrus]

Okay sure

That too

[quiet oar]

[spice spire]

Ur right we should promote the echo chamber

[runic hinge]

are you from tennesee because youre the only 10 i see

[spice spire]

Silence Maine

[cerulean walrus]

Yeah but Maine has lobster

What do you have?

[balmy condor]

are you from tennesee because youre the only 10 i see

[runic hinge]

There's so much snow today

[desert inlet]

bring in the dancin lobsters

[spice spire]

Joke is already made bozo

[balmy condor]

are you from tennesee because youre the only 10 i see

[spice spire]

Hot chicken

[shy pecan]

are you from tennesee because youre the only 10 i see

[spice spire]

Hate u mfs

[ember mural]

are you from tennesee because youre the only 10 i see

[cerulean walrus]

Damn bro at least take me to dinner first

Can’t be flirting like that

[shy pecan]

btw, might be making a visit this year to Nashville

[spice spire]

?

[spice spire]

I’m sorry

[cerulean walrus]

Are you from Tennessee? Cause you’re the only 10 I see

[shy pecan]

Only for a weekend

[spice spire]

Oh it’s winnable then

It’s an alright town for a weekend

When

[quiet oar]

are you from tennesee because youre the only 10 i see

[shy pecan]

Probably late summer? Need to talk to my friend that's out there

[quiet oar]

oh btw, happy bday @midnight mist

[shy pecan]

And yeah, happy birthday

@midnight mist

[cerulean walrus]

Are you from Ohio? Cause you look like you need some help.

[spice spire]

Hopefully not the same time I’m going to Victoria

[shy pecan]

BC?

[midnight mist]

yep ty ty @quiet oar @shy pecan

[spice spire]

Yes

[midnight mist]

send assa sim now

[shy pecan]

My neck of the woods

[spice spire]

Well north of you but ye

[shy pecan]

Close enough

[brave stump]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[proven stag]

I have a lvl 80 rogue but I don’t know much about builds and gear for pvp or pve someone that have patience and like to explain?

[quiet oar]

Wotlk classic?

#classic-discussion message

[clever sapphire]

he is already in tww

[proven stag]

Yes

[quiet oar]

Prolly better to ask there, because we are more about retail

[proven stag]

Where?

[clever sapphire]

he linked the channel

[quiet oar]

.

[clever sapphire]

click on it

[proven stag]

Ok thanks

[quiet oar]

Np

[solid marlin]

Out of curiosity, what are people seeing as their main damage in m+? Overall for me it's garote which makes sense but even single target when I have kingsbane up I'm still getting garote at the top mostly. Is that right?

[balmy condor]

depending on the length of the boss fight yeah

if you're not playing a dtb setup kingsbane is severly neutered

given a bleed setup is like 95% of what people play, bleeds gonna be stronk

[solid marlin]

Gotcha. I've been using the cleave build from your wowhead page. So I've been using dbt. Granted, I've mostly ran between 10-14 so maybe things are dying too fast to get the full effect outside of bosses

[balmy condor]

definitely are

even in like 25's mobs can die before the kingsbane times out

cleave is also the most targeted for single target

you're basically running m+ with a single target raid build

would 100% not suggest it unless you're pushing really high keys

[solid marlin]

That makes sense. I have mostly raided and still learning m+. I think I liked the more single target as it was more comfortable. Plus I really like the idea of dtb lol

[balmy condor]

yeh I feel that

[hallow token]

Article: "Did That Guy Say My Damage Was Low Because Assasination is Capped Or Because I Suck Or Both"

eternal question.

nerf ret, nerf hunter, nerf DH, buff assassination. Film at 11.

[spice spire]

Honestly nerf assassination.
I need to grind harder tbh

[hallow token]

"You know I watched the replay, Alice, and the rogue was the only one who never died. That's got to be worth something, right? "I don't know, Bill. Most people just watch the meters."

[royal lantern]

no buffs

just nerf the others

embrace beeing a hater

[grim jay]

Ret, BM and DH players usually are suffering in one way or another, so let them have their fun in the game atleast

[royal lantern]

no

[quiet oar]

Who says we dont suffer?

Rogue is the least played Class

[royal lantern]

we did a really shity re-clear yesterday up until nymue

cus many people could not come

[runic hinge]

I read some forum posts today and people really don’t like playing rogue lol

[royal lantern]

there was 1 rogue there, multiple HoF playing assa without externals

just telling me "yeha i rather delete my character then playing sub after progress was over"

rogue IS suffering

[royal lantern]

its a class you either love or really really hate from a gameplay perspective

and df didnt really help there tbh, if anything it made it even worse in that regard

[quiet oar]

I mean Sub is also hit or miss

You hate it or you like it

i like this version of sub

[royal lantern]

Nobody likes sub

the like doing dmg

[runic hinge]

Every rogue spec is apparently too complicated and realz is a terrible designer

[quiet oar]

I mean

[royal lantern]

tbf, the class could use streamlining

[quiet oar]

You cant just pick rogue up without any knowledge and do ok-ish dmg

While other clases you can press random buttons and still do ok

[runic hinge]

[quiet oar]

We recleared everything except Fyrakk, because people couldnt log in

[royal lantern]

we stopped at nymue cus we where 17people at that point

and nobody could log in

[quiet oar]

Fucking SOD

Destroys Retail

[royal lantern]

hey hey hey

they need to clear their EXTREME HIGH DIFFCULTY CONTENT in 30min

[quiet oar]

Ragnaros > Fyrakk

Fyrakk plays himself with all these Addons and Auras

[clever sapphire]

why can i not kill him than

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

Need a better Gaming chair

[clever sapphire]

well not me

but everyone who cant dodge the big ass frontal

or the huge swirlies

[blazing jewel]

very much over sub right now

[royal lantern]

mentally prepare yourself for TRICKSTER SUB SHADOWDUST TIMERS in TWW

gotta vanish for those feint resets

[blazing jewel]

[royal lantern]

when you thought sub could not get any worse

[blazing jewel]

sub was fun on prog

but timers changing every week on farm

is straight suffering

[quiet oar]

No they dont

We still kill SMolderon in the last world in falmes

and we still push fyrakk at 2:30

[blazing jewel]

[quiet oar]

And when im not doing double cds in p1 we dont push at 2:30

[slim hamlet]

So are we betting on hero talents today, or do we usually know earlier if there will be revealed any?

[grim jay]

Id love them to take their time.

I have high hopes for the sub/sin tree

Trickster looks like an insult

[balmy condor]

they post a newsletter at the start of every week covering the articles they're releasing for that week, hero talents were not on the newsletter, so no hero talent reveals this week

[slim hamlet]

Can't wait

Surely next week then

[royal lantern]

could be priest, they have 0 trees rn

[slim hamlet]

Well

If you believe they only show 1 hero talent a month then yea

[hallow token]

Am cautiously optimistic that one or the other assassination hero trees will be interesting and/or playable and/or fun. But also, to quote Lloyd Dobler in Say Anything, "If you start out depressed, everything's kind of a nice surprise."

[steel ridge]

So do we

[thorn fjord]

Every man has a Molly

[dark crag]

The sub assa hero tree will be fire

For sub

[royal lantern]

what about the outlaw assa tree that will be sick for outlaw m+

[high jetty]

I’ve got lots of faith. As a new convert to rogue. If any one who was involved with this “rework” is involved with the hero tree. It’s gonna be a banger.

The spec might be slightly under-tuned. But as far as game play goes it’s a fuckin 10 imo

[royal lantern]

man, this is #assassination

most people still lurking here love assassination

but blizzard balancing doesnt, so we doom

ok nevermind, we always doom

[high jetty]

I’ve mained affliction for a loooooonnnnngggg time

I get dooming lol

[spice spire]

Who is this we

[spice surge]

You, me and i

[spice spire]

Us even

[shy pecan]

[royal lantern]

what about me

[spice spire]

Jealousy is an ugly look kings 💅

[steel ridge]

dooming? count me in.

[fallow canopy]

main sin at heart ||just don't ask what spec I'm playing ||

[spice spire]

What spec are you playing

[proven jasper]

[thorn fjord]

Grass feeler

[spice spire]

Real

[royal lantern]

you would never SUBmit too the temptation of playing another spec that is overtuned but got 0 nerfs while assa got chain nerfed even when it was allready not the strongest rogue spec anymore

right

[fallow canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-gif-24395495

[thorn fjord]

Yar matey

[real holly]

do you know why when they trade me money i dont get it?

[royal lantern]

huh?

[real holly]

that they trade me like 10s and i dont get tyhe money

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/mongy-monke-monge-cute-cleaning-gif-27532745

[keen spruce]

He scoot

[proven jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/depression-gif-25137622

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/forest-gump-wave-hi-hello-howdy-gif-22164679

[keen spruce]

[slim hamlet]

Considering like 9/10 hero talents have at least been good I have high hopes too

[royal lantern]

eh, would not say good

most are "ok"

actually "this is really cool and im excited" feels on the lower side

and then there is stuff like OMG APOCALYPSE DK!!!!1111!!!! where i wonder if people realised that the entire tree is just "you proc pets" and a "mounted combat" gimmick that doesnt even work in dungeons/raids/pvp lol

[violet jackal]

Make bone spike good again

[royal lantern]

no

[runic hinge]

Make doom blade worth spreading again

[shy pecan]

Make SnD permanent

[slim hamlet]

Based

[slim hamlet]

It already is

And also remember to FoK in ST

[thorn fjord]

DED SPEC

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-guy-doom-eternal-crucible-gif-19831598

look the CT icon

[runic hinge]

I’ll ct in single target

[bronze pike]

you ride horse in combat :) thats all that matters to casuals

not the various various issues rider has and how much of a failure it is design wise

[gusty mirage]

Are people still playing retail wow

[high jetty]

Yes

[gusty mirage]

Neat