assassination

[royal lantern]

insane

[dark token]

I also don't like the projectile cp delay it has

All our other abilities are instsnt

[royal lantern]

will get my terros and spider sbs cp any second now

[wild birch]

Does acro increase radius of spatter?

[royal lantern]

no

[dark token]

It also doesn't increase range of carnage iirc

I wish it did so it's somewhat useful to grab acro as sin

Rn it's a big DPS loss and you gain basically nothing in keys except kick range

[grim tree]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[clever sapphire]

i unironically played bonespike on volcorros when we first got there

just gotta throw it 2 globals before you want the cp

easy money

[grim tree]

Hi, a question, I'm starting smolderon mythic with my guild, what trinkets should I use with my rogue? assa

[clever sapphire]

ashes/branch and second trinket is just a stat stick

the one that sims the highest for you

[grim tree]

i have glasses 489

pi

[clever sapphire]

sim to win

[warm ravine]

if all my targets have garrote do i re apply? whats' the rule on that? Dont we want it to run its course or is that only in KB window?

[spice spire]

This is a question that’s resolved at the very basis of our understanding of the spec, this is a guide question, unfortunately

[storm forum]

outside of stealth/dance, if the gar is buffed by stealth, we let it run out and then reapply it ASAP. If it's a normal unbuffed gar we can reapply it within the pandemic window, which is like with 5 seconds left

[warm ravine]

I think i need like a plater or something idk.. thats hard to keep track in aoe

[runic hinge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[runic hinge]

Try some of those and see what you like

[limber lion]

You don't really think about it as much in AoE

You play around cds very heavily

So you slam Dance and Vanish on cooldown as much as possible

and you would want to reapply Garrotes during those windows

even if the dots are not in pandemic or about to run out

[warm ravine]

i think im just stuck on the enh/ele sham where spreading dots is imperative. This build we focus target and spread our bleeds etc off the focus target? I shouldn't be needing to tab target around as much as i am?

[limber lion]

What matters more is using garrote on cooldown as much as possible outside of cds, maintaining the Envenom chain for Spatter + 4p and using cooldowns (mainly KB with Spatter) as much as possible

[limber lion]

You should always play Indiscriminate Carnage in Mythic+, which allows you to spread dots automatically

If there's less than 8 targets, you don't really benefit from swapping around every time you garrote/rupture when IC is up

You can minmax it by targetswapping on 6 targets and 8+ targets, but other than that it doesn't really matter

Playing around target counts optimally with the IC mechanic literally rewards you with a single gcd

which is kinda whatever and not probably something you should even think about too much in the beginning

Just slam stuff on cd, spam Garrote/Rupture on one target to spread it to everything

Maintain everything, play the 4p cycle correctly, maintain Spatter at all times as much as possible on the chunkiest target in the pack

That's about it.

[warm ravine]

ok ill stop nuking it lol

[royal lantern]

most things in the current m+ season dont really survive long enough for garrote multidotting anyway

energy+scent of blood

[limber lion]

On which part?

For AoE it's mainly just Scent of Blood to get to 5 targets to fully utilize it

[digital venture]

So for m+, aoe scenarios when I play with IC I just focus on keeping Garrote and Rupture on CD and don't bother target swapping at all?

[limber lion]

It's very typical for our spec to want to maintain Garrote, Rupture and CT on as many targets as possible, but with current tuning it's not really worth going above 5 Ruptures because every Rupture cast is a wasted Envenom cast.

[limber lion]

Whenever you have IC buff up, yes, it's fine to spam it on one target and it will spread automatically.

But outside of IC windows you would have to manually spread it

[digital venture]

Interesting, I was trying to spread it as much as I could in aoe during dance but I guess focusing on 4p and envenom uptime will grant more damage instead of wasting globals on ruptures

[limber lion]

Yeah, you want to Garrote as much as possible but only Rupture up to 5 targets

The #1 most important thing in mythic+ is spamming cds as much as possible

that's the most common error people make

where they hold cds for too long

With dance and KB being only 1 min, there's no need to hold them pretty much ever

[digital venture]

I usually spam KB and dance together on CD but I have a hard time managing vanish and mark. How can you tell when it's the right time in a pack vs not having for a boss?

[limber lion]

If you can't make up your mind, it's better to just use it instead of holding it

An improper use is still better than not using it at all

You should only hold cds if you're actually sure that it's beneficial to do so

Spamming cds should be the default

Unless you're pushing pretty high keys, at least in the 18-22 range you rarely ever get to use Deathmark and other cds more than once per boss fight anyways.

[digital venture]

Thanks. I just dinged 70 and doing the first few m+ of the season and noticed I did better playing assa só I stayed in this spec and I love he play style so far 🙂

[limber lion]

Great! There's a reason why I've played this spec as my main spec the past 5 years.

Have fun!

[royal lantern]

the tl:dr is really just

at pull start you multi dot with IC to spread some bleeds out, and then its just "st a guy and cleave with splatter, keep bleeds on big priority targets"

[limber lion]

Tryan is talking about the initial pull

[royal lantern]

^

[digital venture]

Last time I played wow retail was when legion was current and I also played assa. Loved those big poison bomb procs. Something about the sound and the feel of the spec and this plays very similarly

[royal lantern]

most of the time, stuff wont really live longer then that rn tbh

[limber lion]

That happens pretty much everytime you pull a pack and you have cds ready

Yep

[limber lion]

I guess some people really did like poison bomb

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/galaxy-brain-meme-gif-25947987

[limber lion]

I wasn't a big fan because our damage was entirely reliant on an rng proc that you couldn't control whatsoever

Definitely felt good whenever it did proc on a huge pack

but didn't feel like it was because of me or my ability

[royal lantern]

legion assa dps, aka "who procced PB the most"

[limber lion]

just the planets lining up every blue moon

[indigo epoch]

Feels less important now that it happens so often though.... I do still dig pb though

[royal lantern]

i had a pull once on a boss where PB procced 6x in a row on pull

[limber lion]

It feels less important because it does 1% damage

[royal lantern]

i did more dps then the entire raid combined

cus of a rng proc

[limber lion]

But in Legion it did 60%-70% of your damage

[digital venture]

I don't know what it was. I believe it was all the numbers in the screen or the yellow bar in the dps metter going wild. Also I know this sounds stupid but the sounds of the spec really sound like how a rogue should be. 😅

Nowadays it isn't as big as in legion. My top DMG is splatter in m+ along with garrote and rupture. But the feeling of the proc is still there mby why I'm digging it so much

[limber lion]

Rupture shouldn't probably be up there, but having Spatter and Garrote top the meters is a good sign

[clever sapphire]

i love rng, 15 fyrakk pulls. Opener kb goes anywhere between 2.5M to 4.1M so far

lovely

[digital venture]

I'm playing without 4p. Gonna try to get it today and will just stop rupturing so often and go for envenom uptime rather for the explosion

I believe that's why my Rupture is so up there rn

[limber lion]

Yupyup

good practice to already start pooling and thinking about Envenom chains

[digital venture]

Will keep that in mind and the 5 target rupture

Is there ever a time or week that we play with CT and the bleed talents for more bleed dng and agy or we just get IC?

[limber lion]

You always play IC

You can play a more bleed-focused build that takes CT and Sudden Demise

Instead of going all in on KB/DTB/Spatter

It works very well on lower keys where packs don't live long enough for KB to tick up the entire way through

[digital venture]

But it isn't as good right cuz everyone is literally melting the adds

[limber lion]

Sudden Demise + CT is better than Spatter KB on lower keys for that reason

because you just gar/gar/ct

and then the pack is already dead

and your sudden demise gets value from the garrotes and ct

whereas if you played Spatter you wouldn't have enough time to setup the KB cooldown combo

I personally play Sudden Demise + CT in Everbloom everytime I venture there

[digital venture]

Interesting

Will give the SD + CT build a run sometime

[limber lion]

In higher keys, like +25's you probs would always just run spatter/kb/dtb combo

because stuff lives barely long enough for KB to take full effect

[digital venture]

But I've seen the most popular builds go IC only along with KB so I played with it by default

[limber lion]

Huh?

You always take both with every build

You always take KB and you always take IC

in Mythic+

[digital venture]

Sorry not familiar with the terms

[limber lion]

There's no choice there

[digital venture]

There's a build with KB and IC

[limber lion]

Every single build in the world for mythic+

is a build with KB and IC

Because every build takes those 2 talents

[digital venture]

And another with KB, IC, the bleed buff

[limber lion]

Yeah

[digital venture]

That also takes KT

[dark token]

He prob means the cleave build

[subtle tundra]

there's like 4 builds that all perform relatively the same

[digital venture]

That bleed based one wasn't showing up as the most popular spec in world of logs so I never used it but seen it showcased in some guides

[dark token]

People copy pasta high keys builds without thinking

[subtle tundra]

the tank pulling properly is way more important

[limber lion]

What is KT?

[dark token]

Just run the AP + sudden demise CT build in all keys until you know better

[digital venture]

The aoe bleed skill 🤣

[dark token]

Crimson tempest

[limber lion]

CT

[subtle tundra]

😭

[digital venture]

That!

[limber lion]

If you play Sudden Demise, you also play CT

[subtle tundra]

play these 🥜

[digital venture]

😏

[limber lion]

There's 4 builds in Wowhead that you can just copy and paste and try out

They all perform similarly

SD + CT a lot better in lower keys

And builds without SD better in higher keys

My personal fav is Arterial Shock

because I'm not a big fan of KB + Spatter personally

I'm a sucker for bleeds

[digital venture]

Okey! Will give them all a try and see. But wanted to focus on the one I'll use for higher keys to start muscle memorying as much as I could

[subtle tundra]

the basics are the same

on all

;3

[limber lion]

How high are you planning to take it?

[digital venture]

Wanna try doing some 20s this week at least. And when I get better wanna try 30s eventually 😅

[runic hinge]

I played ap in basically every key to 3k io

[limber lion]

Yeah, if you want to only play one build until the end of time, just play the Cleave build

[subtle tundra]

the jump from 20 to 30 isnt just like that LOL

its quite a grind

[limber lion]

But I doubt you'll be pushing 30's just like that

Kinda running out of time here

[dark token]

If you aren't at 20s on ur first week of playing m+

You won't hit 30

[subtle tundra]

doing 20s and then 30s is a completely different game

[digital venture]

Playing with a group of friends that used to run high keys on PVTs. Not sure when we will get there but sometime eventually 🙃

[dark token]

Also assa won't hit 30

Maybe in atal

Or brh

But other keys u won't live

And I doubt u live +30 yazma as assa anyway

[digital venture]

Nooooes. Don't break my heart like that 🤣

[limber lion]

These are Lolae's keys

and he's the #1 Assa r.io

[dark token]

Yeah brh/AD like I said

I did 29 AD tyrannical and died like 3x on final boss

Just could not live soulrend

[subtle tundra]

its good youre dreaming big

[dark token]

But I also didn't giga optimize

[digital venture]

Is it cuz the freaking spec has no def nodes?

[dark token]

Yes

[limber lion]

No

[subtle tundra]

doesnt stack vers

[limber lion]

It's because the spec doesn't do enough damage

gg

[subtle tundra]

its like 30 different reasons

[dark token]

We don't have defensive nodes and don't stack vers

So we actually take 20% more dmg than outlaw or sub

From boss mechanics

No jokr

[royal lantern]

@gusty mirage 2x in a row a 15% pull

[dark token]

20% more

[subtle tundra]

but yea you shouldnt care

youre not even doing 20s, these kind of things wont matter to you any time soon

[dark token]

I did 28 DHT as sub vs sin and fucking tree boss aoe did 90% HP on sin and only 70% on sub

[digital venture]

Let's start TC a build around vers guys

[limber lion]

Just try all of the builds out and play the one that you think is most fun

[dark token]

Every single time

[limber lion]

For me it's Arterial Shock

[dark token]

I play legit all builds in different scenarios

[subtle tundra]

(the one stat that does not interract with the spec)

[dark token]

This one in every key below 25

[limber lion]

based

[royal lantern]

based on what

[dark token]

This one in high fort keys

[limber lion]

deez 🥜

[dark token]

This one in rise/fall high keys only

[runic hinge]

Lmao gottem

[digital venture]

Rats!

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/nuts-big-stuffing-my-face-gif-18132526

[digital venture]

Anyway thanks for the tips. I'll let you guys know if I managed to push 20s later this week :p

[limber lion]

Shouldn't be an issue if you get the basics of the spec down and you have basic gear and 4p

[subtle tundra]

should be pretty easy, this season is chill

[digital venture]

Thanks! 💪

[dark token]

This one for high tyrannical keys that aren't fall/rise. Sometimes on high fort too

I usually go hybrid build for like fort everbloom or throne but this one for like WM or DHT or something

[digital venture]

@dark token thanks for posting all those builds and the respective instances they are good in! 🙌

[misty holly]

stack that vers, bro.

[warm ravine]

is there a soft cap for mastery? like i.e shamans have 88%.

[royal lantern]

stat caps dont exist

its not 2004 anymore

[warm ravine]

well not true. shamans have DR at 88% so its a SOFT cap.

[spice spire]

Soft caps don’t matter

We do have them

But nothing matters in terms of stat prio

You can hit soft cap of x and still want it over y, this comes into play more so when you have different trinkets

That’s why it doesn’t matter because the trinkets themselves matter more than the stat dr in the scape of stat prio.

[warm ravine]

10-4

[blissful forge]

??
Ele shams dont ever go above 88% mastery same as frost dk's with their haste breakpoint (24/25% iirc)

[spice spire]

Are we ele shamans or frost dks?

I don’t speak in the scope of other theory crafters

I only speak in the scope of assassination rogues

Your stat prio varies wildly based on you using signet or branch.
If it’s branch you over hit softcaps on a lot before you touch mastery again.

I don’t speak In overarching terms, only to sin in sin chat

[thorn fjord]

Tell em

[spice surge]

A real sinner

[spice spire]

I mean nothing to tell - overgeneralization means he didn’t read the entirety of the messages.

[rotund oak]

Is that his rogue's name? Lolae?

basicly nvm gonna check the ladder

[spice spire]

It has a special character

Whomever they are; certified based gamer

[blazing jewel]

Lolae goodge

[rotund oak]

Scana betterge

[blazing jewel]

Im washed

[spice spire]

True

[rotund oak]

I call that not motivated

[blazing jewel]

Going for logs this tier is an absolute meme

So motivation is 0

[dark token]

It's been a meme since PI release

[rotund oak]

im begging priests to PI me 😦

no one wants

[thorn fjord]

I’d PI you if I was a priest

[rotund oak]

ill play the e-girl card

[thorn fjord]

Solid strat tbh

[rotund oak]

[royal lantern]

just get externals and get weapon enchant procs and poison procs and crit on most kb ticks and highroll on the dmg and highroll on signet

wdym

[subtle tundra]

if i were a priest i'd pi subs and outlaws

intentionally and tell them to play assa

[dark token]

I can't get a tindral log idk what to do

Is it impossible after nerf

Do I need to not fly + guild afk

[subtle tundra]

i cant get any log

on any boss

i get a purple maybe here and there....

[blazing jewel]

How do you log smolderon when you have a buyer in every week and kill it before the last amp

Or tindral when the shield breaks in .2 seconds

[subtle tundra]

1 sec i tell you

[dark token]

My smolderon sucks honestly I keep fking up

[runic hinge]

Tindral isn’t even all stars anymore. Does it matter?

[subtle tundra]

these be my logs

[blazing jewel]

Oh yea I forgot about that lol

[subtle tundra]

amen

[dark token]

I like getting all pink

[blazing jewel]

I followed the top logs cd usage on smold when I yoloed sin for a raid and got an actual grey lmfao

[runic hinge]

That’s what she said

[blazing jewel]

No pi

No Aug

[dark token]

No pi sin is cursed

[subtle tundra]

maybe i am just bad....................

[blazing jewel]

I think I did like 230k

[rotund oak]

im gonna steal ur tech for fyrakk 🤝

[subtle tundra]

yea no way i am full afk from melee on smolderon

i'd rather kill the boss

than log

[rotund oak]

u are never bad,always first in our hearts

[blazing jewel]

Actual buyer log

[subtle tundra]

i had a 2 log on tindral on wednesday

[blazing jewel]

[subtle tundra]

(i didnt play spatter and i was in the air for 10 seconds every time)

[blazing jewel]

I just want out on tindral so I full st on sub now

[subtle tundra]

fucking changed who did dragons so i had to wait for people to take the bombas

yea idk dps on tindral is 17 man-able

i dont give a flying fuck

[dark token]

The top ranking sins are doing deathmark on collossus etc I can't compete unless I do that

[subtle tundra]

even fyrakk boss dies sooooooooooo early when its 20 people alive

[blazing jewel]

Yes the very important colossus and small adds damage

[dark token]

If I had to do it again I would hold KB for boss after collossi die

[rotund oak]

i just want to make the leggo logs and its for HC so tis whatever

[blazing jewel]

Very good for killing the boss

[rotund oak]

im up to smoldie on mythic

[dark token]

HC fyrakk is not even close to mythic

I wouldn't copy anything

[rotund oak]

so i just send KB on colossus and cleave the adds

[subtle tundra]

shit like this is why ill never be a parser, i want to get out of the raid as fast as possible not wipe to stupid shit

[rotund oak]

meme my log?

[blazing jewel]

Did your guild ever put you in sub prison this tier or did you stick it out as sin

[subtle tundra]

full assa

[blazing jewel]

I feel like last tier you could 99 every boss without trolling the raid

[subtle tundra]

after half a night as assa on smold i said im not doing it

and i got replaced

;3

[blazing jewel]

Lol

[rotund oak]

thats brutal

[blazing jewel]

If you had 20 up smold wasn’t even a super tight check

Even early

[subtle tundra]

no acro on smold is tilting

if you want to be ethical its 0 uptime

[dark token]

Sin not being able to take acro is really sad tbh

Especially on tindral

When other 2 specs get it for free

[blazing jewel]

We killed with plenty of time left and deaths at like 478ilvl

[subtle tundra]

with 2 subs?

;3

[blazing jewel]

[subtle tundra]

sub is cheat code, kinda feel bad for not doing it

[blazing jewel]

I was sub from smold onwards

[rotund oak]

sub is the way

[subtle tundra]

but hey, it worked out in the end

[blazing jewel]

Sub is very annoying on reclear

[subtle tundra]

world 30 with me half trolling is a dub

[rotund oak]

i find it pretty hard to play it even now and im training every single day 😄

outlaw main btw

hardwired brain

[subtle tundra]

i think it would've been pretty fun to play sub but i only raid log... no time to learn the spec

[blazing jewel]

It’s not fun

When timers change every week due to sales and roster changes

[rotund oak]

and nerfs(occassionally)

[subtle tundra]

assa rotation once again got stale, i much prefer pre-df where it was just as stale but not as many buttons

[dark token]

Guessing fyrakk timings is really annoying as sub tbh

[rotund oak]

just send

on cd

least what stealthi said

[subtle tundra]

and extra annoying with some branch timings

[dark token]

I devote so much brain power to it every week trying to do good timings for our kill

[blazing jewel]

The annoying part about it is the shield

[dark token]

Sin is fkin chilling send on cd

[dark token]

Yes I know, our time is around 2:05 for intermission and nothing works for me I try

[blazing jewel]

If you push too early and sub was the main spec breaking shields in your raid suddenly it doesn’t get broken on time

[subtle tundra]

yea but sub can be ok balanced but be op cause of dynamic timings

so you win some and lose some as sub

[blazing jewel]

New rotation is fun I guess

But I’d take old one with a better tier set ngl

I am a paid actor by big sepsis

[dark token]

I prefer new sin rotation by a lot but don't like the 4p

[subtle tundra]

i literally look at my parse and then check if i played well and i swear i don't do a single thing wrong

and its like a 60

lose my envenom chain once maybe

[dark token]

Do u have pi

And wf

And aug

If u don't, no orange

[subtle tundra]

i dont know?!?! i log 3 minutes before raid

bad rng i guess(10 raids in a row)

[blazing jewel]

Also it’s week 9000 and I still have branch/sandglass

I want to die

[subtle tundra]

i'd love to get log reviewed at some point but private logs ☝️

[dark token]

Ye

[blazing jewel]

You play at a high level there isn’t a lot to review outside of maybe timing vanish/shivs correctly

Not rocket science right now lol

[dark token]

Sin rotation is pretty easy atm

It's very fixed just do ur CDs well

[subtle tundra]

i do fuck up vanish timings like 1/10 times which is pretty high

but thats cause im not focused on the raid

[dark token]

Envenom uptime helps but even without its fine

[blazing jewel]

I still see a lot of people vanish past optimal time but even then I doubt that’s a massive deal

[dark token]

Random healers and alts nabbing pips every week smh

[subtle tundra]

unrelated, i still dont have 2nd nick

👍

[blazing jewel]

More like guilds selling trinkets from every boss

[dark token]

U have a first nick?

[subtle tundra]

yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

483 i meant, not from vault

[keen spruce]

i think

chance of 489 nick decreases as your io goes up

[subtle tundra]

mine cant get over 0%

you cant catch me doing key on rogue

[keen spruce]

i just do my weeklies

maybe go push for title in 2 weeks on that fort week

i think 2-3 keys might be enough

[dark token]

I do 8 ataldazar every week rn

[subtle tundra]

thats wayyyyyyy too much

time...

[dark token]

2 hrs bang em all out

[keen spruce]

ye very quick

i either just do 18s wtih friend's alts

or do sales

[subtle tundra]

well ok im an outlier

i have like 3 item upgrades in my inventory and im not wearing them

cause i dont have time to upgrade them and enchant them

(i am wearing 476 crafted finger)

[keen spruce]

play the game

[subtle tundra]

😠

[runic hinge]

[spice spire]

No

[quiet oar]

You ara based for that

[spice spire]

Game funge if you enjoy game

Don’t recommend quitting if you enjoy

[quiet oar]

Well

I fully ranted after raid about that one specific heal

And how we carried him through the whole content

[spice spire]

[quiet oar]

Like quake

This guy

Has minimum 50% floor pov uptime

[spice spire]

Been there

[royal lantern]

wait

warriors can heal?

[gray crest]

is cheat death really a defensive cd if it isnt being used on cd?

[spice spire]

Real

[runic hinge]

That’s what I’m saying!

[charred obsidian]

hero rework prob

[gray crest]

Alright that was all my allotted time in this discord for the week. ill be back next week

[charred obsidian]

time well spent. cya

[marble hemlock]

why would it be shorted to CD if its not meant to be used on CD

[runic hinge]

So based

[storm forum]

My mouse hand hurts and I don't have wind fury tonight. Should I just call out tonight?

[keen spruce]

No

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-damn-job-priscilla-owens-the-oval-mind-your-own-business-finish-your-job-gif-20603187

[storm forum]

Ok

[charred obsidian]

Will assa ever be meta in m+ lol

[spice surge]

If it didnt get turbo nerfed every week at the start of the tier it would definitely be alright in m+

Deathmarking and "oneshotting" a priority target is incredibly strong

[charred obsidian]

fair

seeing assa at the bottom every expansion for m+ is kinda sad ngl

[spice surge]

Now after the rework the tools to be good in m+ are there

Just the numbers are a bit low in general

[charred obsidian]

well... it didnt change all that much lets be honest. We have caustic spatter which is super good but what else?

sudden demise? not even played

crimson update? not played either

[woeful meteor]

Think the spec needs a shift from where your dmg comes from to become and stay meta in Keys, since with the current profile you will just be way to good in raid when your are meta in m+

and just get nerfed

[charred obsidian]

this^^

[keen spruce]

Easy access to tempest. KB for 1m st burst that also spatters, demise and scent in some builds, dance to go with carnage

[charred obsidian]

at this point we just go full single target with caustic in m+ pretty much

[marble hemlock]

easy to fix by just lowering spatter percentage to not have the same old dogshit st -> aoe gameplay that half the other specs have at this point

[keen spruce]

More flexible bleed spreading, strong passive cleave, and very powerful priority damage

[charred obsidian]

this too^^

[keen spruce]

Well we go full cleave because that’s what important this season

[charred obsidian]

i dont understand why blizzard have a sudden hate for Aoe abilities

[keen spruce]

It’s not that it’s the most optimal way for Assas to be played

It’s that prio damage and st are by far the most important damage profiles in this m+ season

[marble hemlock]

its the easiest to tune way to do aoe, but its also the most boring one in terms of overall gameplay

every class just feels incredibly similar in aoe, the buttons just have different names

and yes, im jaded and cynical, because i firmly believe current assa in m+ is a major downgrade in terms of gameplay, to what it was before. so take my input with a mineshaft full of salt

[keen spruce]

Lots of old heads miss multi dotting

[charred obsidian]

i just feel like old assa and new assa play the same in m+

[keen spruce]

But I think for the modern palette the new Assas is more favorable overall

[charred obsidian]

at least they are super similar

[keen spruce]

With the gameplay loop

[charred obsidian]

just just dont spam crimson anymore

[marble hemlock]

new assa is just "pump 2mins into prio target, then afk and let your team carry" cause you sure as shit dont do damage outside of CDs

and having to use mutilate every 10sec on aoe is fucking criminal

[keen spruce]

Ye I’d rather move power back into rupture

Fan should proc spatter on your target

[charred obsidian]

probably a unpopular opinion but. i think Indiscriminate carnage sucks

[marble hemlock]

i think so too

[charred obsidian]

for a specific reason

[marble hemlock]

dw

[charred obsidian]

ait

[keen spruce]

I don’t mind it but it’s not as engaging as I think we were hoping

[marble hemlock]

old IC was good cause it actually had range, new IC still feels shit against any set of targets thats taller than a gnome

[charred obsidian]

the "have to stealth" to apply just makes it so annoying

[marble hemlock]

also love casting shiv with arterial precision on tindral while im surrounded by 10 roots and 8 treants and i still only get 2 CP somehow

big fan

[charred obsidian]

makes it unplayable with 50% of tanks and impossible to play on spiteful

[keen spruce]

The stealth requirement rn doesn’t really matter

[charred obsidian]

Cough Chain pullers Cough

[keen spruce]

Because we’re running dance with kb

Restealths are basically pointless

[marble hemlock]

but ye i mean, the rework drastically changed the way that assa delivers damage in m+ now. to me personally, it was a major downgrade. CT feels like shit and hits like a wet noodle, its basically all loaded into spatter, the one thing i was hoping wouldnt happen

[keen spruce]

Yeah I just want power back into bleeds

Ct and rupture

[charred obsidian]

we only use dance with kb and not for dotting anyways

[marble hemlock]

spending 2 GCDs to get max CP and hardcasting a rupture on another target is just not even remotely close to where it should be for a multidot class

anyway, sorry for the dooming

[charred obsidian]

yea not to mention there are lots of others who does dotting way better than assa

[marble hemlock]

i just used to love the old assa playstyle and so the spec was pretty much ruined for me. unlucky.

[charred obsidian]

without the need of special requirements

[keen spruce]

You use Dane with kb and you redot during it

Restealths really don’t matter and never have

Dance*

[charred obsidian]

problem is that you usally use it very quickly after youve put your dots out

[keen spruce]

I mean they’re more important for pirate than any other spec rn

[marble hemlock]

just love how the spec gets nerfed repeatedly to the point where playing it in prog is actively trolling your guild

[charred obsidian]

so the value is kinda meh

[marble hemlock]

playing assa without aug buffs/pi is just miserable

love doing tank damage

[keen spruce]

Yeah nerfing it back to 3rd best every season gets really old

Especially because unless you’re in like a top 50 guild it means you barely get to use the unbuffed version

Like it was basically gutted before I got to lacrosse

Larodar*

[marble hemlock]

nerfing it due to it looking good on warcraftlogs because blizz doesnt give enough of a shit to fix their combat hooks, so spatter was entirely attributed to the rogue instead of the aug, meaning we did a solid 10-20% more dam in logs than we actually did, and then getting nerfed based off of those numbers.

good stuff.

[blazing jewel]

Sin after its first small aura buff in aberrus was perfect

[charred obsidian]

plus the current and old assassin dont feel like assassins

[keen spruce]

As long as you were only hitting one target

[charred obsidian]

heck even sub is a better assassin that assa is

[keen spruce]

@blazing jewel

[blazing jewel]

What bosses weren’t single target focused in aberrus

Or even this tier

[keen spruce]

but my spatter pad

[marble hemlock]

oh nyoo, a class that only has 3 dps specs topped the meters on a bunch of bosses. better nerf it 3 times, forget that its getting PI and aug buffed and aug damage attribution is fucked. nerf it one more time for good measure. dont buff it again after you realize its been down bad, no need. just buff mage a few more times despite it already being the #1 m+ spec.

[blazing jewel]

Very important

[marble hemlock]

only way to fix the game at this point is to remove any cd thats longer than 1min cooldown. dont @ me

CDs and CDR ruined wow class design. dont @ me

anyway, enough doomposting. enjoy your evenings

[charred obsidian]

dont get me started on ret who was in a super good spot. then got a mega buff out of nowhere to become S in all content

[keen spruce]

Id rather Assas go back to slow dot management and multi dotting manually. But I also really like the prio bursty thing we’ve got going on this season. Assas would still be pretty good in m+ rn if they had better defensive

A

Defensives

[charred obsidian]

i guess so

[keen spruce]

Outlaw getting a 5% stam node, 4% vers, favors vers as a stat, always have feint, and ~40s cd on evasion

Other two specs just can’t really compete

But at least sub has vanish shield and stacks vers idk

[charred obsidian]

and sub being miles ahead in st

[keen spruce]

I agree with seli, get rid of big cds and get rid of vers

[spice surge]

Against most things in m+ sub has a 10% hp shield, as well as the vanish shield and not that much less vers

[keen spruce]

What’s the 10% shield from?

[spice surge]

The exhil talent

[runic hinge]

Healing from finishers

[keen spruce]

I haven’t messed with sub that much

O

[charred obsidian]

im just sick of seeing sub at the top all the time so ive tried assa the most

[keen spruce]

I just don’t like the bait and switch every season

And the machine gun nerfs

[charred obsidian]

lol

[keen spruce]

At the start of every tier

[charred obsidian]

true

[keen spruce]

Like if we’re middle of the pack w/e

I’ll play it or maybe if it’s bad enough I’ll try something else

[charred obsidian]

every season we have the "here we go again" moment

[keen spruce]

But like setting us up to be hype about it and seeing it perform well

Then chopping our knees off

Is really demoralizing

[charred obsidian]

indeed

people hyped assa for this rework

[marble hemlock]

its just annoying as fuck

[charred obsidian]

so much next to no one touched sub

[marble hemlock]

when it happens twice in one expansion

[charred obsidian]

sub was op all along for raids

[marble hemlock]

was the same shit in vault

[charred obsidian]

dam

[marble hemlock]

multiple nerfs until the spec was in the gutter

while everything else gets buffed

so we end up starting at the top, and end up at the bottom

[charred obsidian]

sometimes it feels like all buffs and nerfs are made with popularity in mind and nothing else

[marble hemlock]

same as now, unless we get aug buffs and PI, but even then at this point, better off giving PI to your hunters and aug buffs to the sub/dk/hunters/dh

[keen spruce]

We don’t even have an aug

And I’m only getting pi because we have 3 priests

[spice surge]

Aug doesnt matter much though

[keen spruce]

Well now it doesn’t the hooks got mostly fixed for rogue

[marble hemlock]

not for logs but just feels dogshit to play

[keen spruce]

Iirc

[marble hemlock]

in raid itself

[keen spruce]

Well aug is a war crime anyways.

[marble hemlock]

when youre one of the classes that aug is strongest for

and not getting it

[spice surge]

Ye big exception is still absorbs that doesnt work

[keen spruce]

But that’s been talked to death

[charred obsidian]

sooo...

when is assa rework

[fleet pagoda]

i'm just happy the spec is fun to play in keys now

i'll go in there with my noodle arms and do my best while the ret paladins slam final verdict to victory

[charred obsidian]

ret 0 effort 1 mil damage while watching netflix on the side

meanwhile me playing assa and the tank chain pull the entire dungeon so i have to use vanish to even try do damage once

[shy pecan]

You have Shadow Dance too

[charred obsidian]

and waste dance in the process

[keen spruce]

I don’t care about ret doing big aoe pad

But I do care about getting beat in single target by a Cheeto weilding glue eater

While they also do infinite aoe

[charred obsidian]

lol

[fleet pagoda]

i liked when they were just divine storm enjoyers, made a nice synergy with sin. that verdict buff was a bit much though

went from being ying and yang to riding them to the finish line

[spice surge]

If only assa did 3% more damage and 12% more kingsbane damage

[charred obsidian]

idk about you but i dont like messing with my major cooldown to just use my passive aoe talent :/

especially when that cooldown is always used with kingsbane

unless i understand the spec totally wrong and play like an idiot

[keen spruce]

The 3% was just a kick in the nuts

[charred obsidian]

mm

idk they hate assa i swear

[keen spruce]

And for like 60% of rogues it was more like an 8%

Cuz that’s when they all lost their pi

If they hadn’t already

[charred obsidian]

when will they nerf sub st

[bronze pike]

i wouldnt say that

[charred obsidian]

they are like 5-10% over everyone else in st atm

[bronze pike]

wasnt the verdict buff, it was the wake of ashes buff

[shy pecan]

I mean, sometimes if you really need the IC, just gotta do what you gotta do.

[charred obsidian]

it was an exageration but it feels that way sometimes

[charred obsidian]

fair but still annoying

[bronze pike]

i know, it just common sentiment for multiple specs

[charred obsidian]

yea

like survival

[bronze pike]

surv is sleeper

[fleet pagoda]

affliction

[charred obsidian]

its ait

[bronze pike]

people jsut dont play it cause ya know

melee when your playing hunter

[charred obsidian]

very squishy

[bronze pike]

naw

mm is the squishy one cause no pet

[keen spruce]

Hunter has decent beef now

[bronze pike]

if a surv or bm feels squishy that means there running a dps pet

when tank pets super charge their bulk by a solid amount

[charred obsidian]

yea well mm is in the gutter atm

[keen spruce]

Aff would actually be fine

[bronze pike]

actually have to try and die to die as bm/surv

[keen spruce]

If they just reduced the fking vile taint cd

And upped their shard gen

[charred obsidian]

would it be an exageration to call MM the worst hunter spec atm

[keen spruce]

No

Mm is butts

[bronze pike]

idk enoguh about mm to comment

[charred obsidian]

thats what i thought

[bronze pike]

mm consistent dam is beans

[keen spruce]

They’re very good at larodar

[charred obsidian]

but capped at 6

[keen spruce]

Cuz they run heavy ammo

[charred obsidian]

unless you go light ammo

[keen spruce]

But that’s it

[bronze pike]

it has huge burst

[keen spruce]

Their single target is criminal

[charred obsidian]

then its 8

the burst is good for 10 seconds and after that youre useless for the rest of that time

[keen spruce]

Turbo ass

And their tier is still bugged

And sometimes just won’t go off

So they lose another 5% st sometimes

[charred obsidian]

so unless things die within like 15-20 seconds youre useless lets be real

[keen spruce]

Normally like 1-3 times per boss lol

[charred obsidian]

in aoe that is

not to menton 2 targets being your bane

[fleet pagoda]

so assassination with guns

[charred obsidian]

lol

i guess so

[keen spruce]

No at least Assas is kinda useful 1m later

[charred obsidian]

the tierset is the only thing making MM even a tiny bit useful

without the tier idk where it would stand tbh

[bronze pike]

no

sin burst is still solid af

the issue tho

[charred obsidian]

the tier set for MM in pbe for s3 was a 1% dps increase

until they changed it

it was so sad

[bronze pike]

what kills burst specs is cdr and pointless cdr

[charred obsidian]

true

[bronze pike]

idk if mm has that

[charred obsidian]

you use your salvo and explosive shot together with your trueshot and thats your entire burst gone within 10 sec

after that youre capped at 6-8 enemies depending on talents

without trueshot you kinda suck

even with the other bursts up

enough hunter ig this is assa discussion

sorry about that lol

[runic hinge]

Hunter talk killed the channel. It’s been 4 hours.

[keen spruce]

[gilded oasis]

what is this? the hunter discord?

[shy pecan]

Hunters...

[rotund oak]

[still stirrup]

Falsedischarge Abode amirite

[blazing jewel]

I blame @keen spruce

[royal lantern]

i agree

idk why cus i just woke up, but blaming shmeeps is always ok

[shy pecan]

[gilded oasis]

damn shmeeps

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/hunting-little-joe-dirt-erik-per-sullivan-joe-dirt-got-it-gif-17443315

[keen spruce]

I didn’t do it

I just said mm is bad

Standard conversation

[quiet oar]

I mean thats true

Only hunter talk i accept

is survival talk

BEcause thats the REAL hunter spec

[rotund oak]

the only thing bad on MM is casting

i hate watching bars filling

[blazing jewel]

where is @keen spruce

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/duckie-tom-and-jerry-quacker-gif-18674239

[blazing jewel]

yes

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-ducking-hit-gif-21207411

[keen spruce]

I’m playin poker

Where are you?

[blazing jewel]

I have fallen to the dark side brother

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/poker-anime-poker-face-poker-face-gator-crocodile-gif-24509860

[royal lantern]

stop

everytime you do a key, a kitten and a puppy gets sad

[blazing jewel]

I got held hostage and they forced me to do the 27

[rotund oak]

''You like that,dont u,dont u?''

-Sasha Grey-

[orchid pewter]

[spice spire]

Seek help bestie

[gusty mirage]

and to think you made fun of me for doing 24s

[spice spire]

Tell that fraud

[forest nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/cra-cra-crazy-nuts-sleepless-gif-10559985

is this you? after that key?

[gray horizon]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[indigo epoch]

Grats

[crisp parrot]

Is Sudden demise bugged in leveling dungeons? The execute works fine in the open world but it doesent work at all in the dungeons lvl 60-70 at least...?

[arctic hare]

Hmm, maybe your bleed damage isn’t high enough on the targets themselves?

[crisp parrot]

It does about 20k against a questing mob executing it instantly at the 35% threshold, and in dungeons sometimes in a massive pack it will read 3-4k or even 0 on details

im assuming its a dungeon scaling issue because it was released in the 10.2 patch and not tested in leveling

[soft shale]

usually if you DM a mob it should pop or when you use the aoe shiv and they are fully bled

unless you are undergeared

it is kinda funny with some power things although i havent tried assa in TW i imagine it should be fun with the azerite gear

[gaunt sigil]

I’m craving to see the Fatebound and Deathstalker hero trees

[soft shale]

deathstalker should be cool just hope it does not revolve around shadowstep or vanish

let's pray together

[gaunt sigil]

You mean to tell me you don’t use the anti-parry step-KB macro?!

I gaslit my raid lead into thinking I used that

[royal lantern]

ahahahahahhaah

sure

[woeful meteor]

[balmy condor]

It could be a vanish thing

[royal lantern]

deathstalker just screams "vanish and dance" lol

[balmy condor]

That’d be cool

[gaunt sigil]

It’d be neat for Assa but kinda cringe for sub

As a fellow dust hater

[runic hinge]

Sub is cringe

[gaunt sigil]

Real

I wanna play Assa more but sub is so good rn

[spice spire]

Opp

[runic hinge]

[shy pecan]

Opp this

[soft shale]

dont worry sub will get 2 or 3 charges of vanish and also prep

so the 0.5% people that play it can safely reroll to something else

[spice spire]

I might

[gentle apex]

Where can I find dmg % increase from PI per class

[runic hinge]

Bloodmallet

[gentle apex]

Ty

[past forum]

when im doing alt keys and i encounter a wild assassination rogue, they're either the best or worst pugs i play with

[raven egret]

Sin didnt get their 3% back, sadge

[thorn fjord]

Sin will be forgotten till second tier of WW

Watch lol

[runic hinge]

We had our two weeks in the sun

[unreal kayak]

where is the assa buffs

[thorn fjord]

I miss her

[runic hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/wolverine-gif-26323206

[thorn fjord]

Love that meme but the one with him looking at scott and jean is my fav

[royal lantern]

thats all hardtime offmeta specs tbh

either the biggest chads possible

or do absolutely nothing

[balmy condor]

why do we keep screaming that assa sucks

[thorn fjord]

its the cool thing to do

[royal lantern]

did it ever stop?

[runic hinge]

Because I could be topping my heroic raid by even more

[royal lantern]

and did i even scream about it?

[bronze pike]

Not top by 30% like sub

Ergo

It sucks

:)

[balmy condor]

every time I open the channel its like 3 people circle jerkin it about how assa is terrible forever again

and I can't tell if they're idiots or trolling

[bronze pike]

Sub dead whispyr

[balmy condor]

and those are the only two options

so

[bronze pike]

Ur gonna have more visitors here soon

[runic hinge]

I just like circle jerking

[royal lantern]

hey

[thorn fjord]

Both

[royal lantern]

i didnt do anything

[thorn fjord]

Surely its both

[royal lantern]

.c

[balmy condor]

kinda doubt it tbh

[shy pecan]

:3

[bronze pike]

Ya just memeing

[thorn fjord]

Sub channel is on some hot salsa right now

[bronze pike]

Cause napkin math 1% nerf

[shy pecan]

Nah, just some weirdo spamming messages in there

[balmy condor]

rogues already wrote off assa after the kingsbane nerf

"oop, 15% nerf to one of the strongest cooldowns in the game that's on a 1min cd, spec dead bye"

[shy pecan]

I love that block button

[balmy condor]

[bronze pike]

Ty for donating that 15% nerf to buff wake of ashes

[royal lantern]

oh

[bronze pike]

A stronger burst button on a 30sec cd

[royal lantern]

i didnt even see that guy

[bronze pike]

Oh I see he has a history then

[strange python]

@balmy condor what was your damage on fyrak shield ?

[balmy condor]

oh my god I opened the channel and saw a blocked message and it wasn't even the same guy

despair

[strange python]

10m?

[balmy condor]

sub in shambles

[thorn fjord]

LOL

[balmy condor]

on prog or this week or what

[thorn fjord]

I love it here #assassination my safe space

[blazing jewel]

[strange python]

The kill on march 04

[blazing jewel]

Whole lotta yappin in there

[shy pecan]

No kidding lol

[balmy condor]

looks like 9 mil

[strange python]

Kk ty

[balmy condor]

if you don't wanna do the absorb thingy

you can just sort by intermission

I was at 9.7 on that

[blazing jewel]

I should test out the block button on some people but then the content would go away

[balmy condor]

block button is great

can recommend

[shy pecan]

Your sanity and IQ shoots up tenfold not reading some of the dumb shit being said though

[blazing jewel]

Having someone say the only reason sub was brought to fyrakk was to break the intermission shield was good content

[shy pecan]

LOL

[balmy condor]

how life feels after you block the dumbest mfer you've ever met in your life

[quiet oar]

But you wouldnt See me anymore

[blazing jewel]

[thorn fjord]

Wonder how many people have me blocked

[bright turret]

it's a tradition to doom about your spec if you get nerfed 2-3%

[runic hinge]

This is how I feel too

[quiet oar]

[balmy condor]

its true

[white orchid]

Should’ve been more than 2-3% 😈

[balmy condor]

I mean it really should've been like 5%

but it's a bit late in the patch for that

[bright turret]

kind of surprised they nerfed after this long

[balmy condor]

yeah honestly

[white orchid]

They should’ve got nerfed when assass got the second nerf

[bright turret]

sub is always going to be problematic with moving CDs around either way

[shy pecan]

Truth

[balmy condor]

I'm surprised that arcane didn't get the bat either though

[thorn fjord]

Just think of what this channel was like a year ago @balmy condor en

All the dooming

[blazing jewel]

Is arcane strong right now

[shy pecan]

If it can execute it properly... ?

[thorn fjord]

Hard to tell most people I’ve seen playing it suck

lol

[balmy condor]

it is in heroic

but I think the sub nerf is squarely aimed at mythic

[royal lantern]

??????? hello ?????

you doom about changes that didnt even happen at all

get your doomer game on the 2024 level

[bright turret]

tru

[thorn fjord]

The sub nerf is kinda irrelevant tbh

[royal lantern]

it is

[bright turret]

sin is doomed in warthin since it doesnt even have 2 hero trees yet

[thorn fjord]

I can be your hero babeh

I can kiss away the pain

[shy pecan]

Oh God, it's that guy talking (not Guy but the Hana dude)...

[thorn fjord]

That guy is on something

[shy pecan]

Saved a few IQ points there

[thorn fjord]

And it ain’t anything good

[quiet oar]

Bro is yapping really Hard

[thorn fjord]

Yeah I left

[shy pecan]

I blocked him like a long ass time ago

Because of all his stupid ass takes and desire for attention

[quiet oar]

Ye i can understand why

I shouldve done thst too

[royal lantern]

who

[quiet oar]

But i have no one blocked Till now

[blazing jewel]

I’m rapidly losing brain cells

[shy pecan]

Hanaaaaaaaa or however you spell it

[blazing jewel]

I don’t have much left to lose

[quiet oar]

Hayannanana guy

In sub channel rn

[shy pecan]

I posted the screenshot 😛

[royal lantern]

oh

THAT guy

lmao

[shy pecan]

Ya

[thorn fjord]

@blazing jewel ever been to Calle ocho?

Like the festival

[shy pecan]

I block for three main reasons:
(1) constant bad takes,
(2) complaining about failing keys (or someone bricking your key) constantly,
(3) being an asshole to someone that's trying to help you when you're asking for help

[thorn fjord]

I don’t block I love the pain

[blazing jewel]

[thorn fjord]

It’s this Sunday… you should come out for some foods

[quiet oar]

Im just ignoring them

[strange python]

@balmy condor does assa helps in killing mobs in fyrak more than sub?

[royal lantern]

i mean, it depeends on your raidlead call lol

[blazing jewel]

In Tampa until Thursday

[shy pecan]

I just don't want to bother reading them so... 😛

[royal lantern]

you can do big dmg on adds with cds by cleaving from the golems

[thorn fjord]

Ripppp

[royal lantern]

or you do 0 add dmg cus you send stuff on boss

[quiet oar]

Fair enough

[balmy condor]

depends on your cds I guess

[quiet oar]

This retail discorders

Always need to rely on Blocks

[balmy condor]

I was on add duty for p2

[quiet oar]

[blazing jewel]

Add duty

[quiet oar]

Dont judge

[balmy condor]

yessir

[bright turret]

dont be jelly of caustic splat

[balmy condor]

me second add set cranker pov

[blazing jewel]

I don’t even get to play sin bozo

[bright turret]

maybe dont be so good at the game

[gusty mirage]

[runic hinge]

I’ll head back rn

[gusty mirage]

I had to leave sub, I'm back home guys

[quiet oar]

[thorn fjord]

Held out longer than the rest of us lol

[gusty mirage]

there's an outlaw rogue asking for sub burst to be nerfed and be more punished for downtime, so I had to walk away

[balmy condor]

it's okay, we're chortling from a distance

[thorn fjord]

Yeah we’re making fun of him

[gusty mirage]

did you see my banger

[shy pecan]

I was just talking about how I blocked him a while ago

[quiet oar]

Hey hey He has the Outlaw role

[balmy condor]

ed went into sub, saw a blocked message, came back

so then I went

saw a blocked message

but a different guy

so I came back

[quiet oar]

I dont consider him an Outlaw buddy

[balmy condor]

[thorn fjord]

Outlaw villain

[drifting cloud]

it was me

[gusty mirage]

hi ryler

[drifting cloud]

hi

[gusty mirage]

I miss you king

[shy pecan]

I know you have sapp blocked. I do too 🙂

[balmy condor]

yes ofc

[bright turret]

more punished for downtime is a weird ask

[quiet oar]

You mean kushfanboyno1

Is this toxic?

[balmy condor]

welcome to class discords when a spec is mentioned in blue font

[quiet oar]

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/big-trouble-if-i-speak-if-i-speak-i-am-in-big-trouble-speak-big-gif-23519858

[quiet oar]

[shy pecan]

I love Jose

[gusty mirage]

I hate him because chelsea, man u and tottenham

but he's my spirit animal

[shy pecan]

Yeee

Same

[balmy condor]

spec gets a blue post and all of a sudden all the fucking runas the shamed looking mfers show up thinking they have the answers to the questions no one asked

[gusty mirage]

sec I have to google this

ok

fair

[balmy condor]

'tis the circle of life

[gilded oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/circleoflife-lion-king-gif-9855575

[blazing jewel]

Bro they are still going

[gusty mirage]

are you playing 3.24

or am I going to be sad again

[balmy condor]

scana dude it's gonna be like that until the end of next week

have you never been here

for a nerf

[drifting cloud]

im here im just not shitposting in rh

[gilded oasis]

[shy pecan]

[balmy condor]

@wild lantern

[gusty mirage]

@wild lantern

[royal lantern]

"X spec is more/less punished by downtimes" mf's when you show them that all melee dps get punished by downtimes and do fuckall

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-black-guy-shocked-gif-27437284

[gusty mirage]

people literally giving sub more traffic than it's seen in 18 years

over a 2% damage nerf

imagine

[royal lantern]

is it even 2%?

[gusty mirage]

probably not

[woeful meteor]

napkin math is 2%

so ye probably less

[gusty mirage]

I pulled 2% out of my ass

and I was spot on

[gilded oasis]

no wonder it smelt

[quiet oar]

Just wait for fuu

[balmy condor]

yeh my napkin math says about 2% as well

[gusty mirage]

this TCing thing is easy when you make up numbers

[shy pecan]

Hell ya

[balmy condor]

I can do an override real quick

hold

[woeful meteor]

[quiet oar]

Pausechamp

[gusty mirage]

@wild lantern JEZ

I NEED AN ANSWER

[marble hemlock]

HODL

[gusty mirage]

wtf are you even saying seli

[royal lantern]

hodl

[shy pecan]

HODL

[marble hemlock]

see? monkey do, monkey say.

[quiet oar]

Hodl