assassination

[junior yoke]

ST MELE BOSS = sub?

[spice spire]

On toast

[arctic socket]

[spice spire]

War criminal

[junior yoke]

u calling?

[arctic socket]

The 489 Nicholas with a 2 star

Is a war criminal

[junior yoke]

hahahaha omg he's mad

[spice spire]

That is also a war crime

[royal lantern]

isnt that just british?

dont need to ban him over that, he is allready suffering enough by default

[arctic socket]

It’s the meme of the day

[spice spire]

Don’t think they’re British

[junior yoke]

buzzing rune r3

[spice spire]

Just a war criminal

[arctic socket]

He

[spice spire]

Yeah that’s the funniest part. R3 rune r2 enchantment

Bis weapon

Good meme good meme

[junior yoke]

DO rushes still exist?

[arctic socket]

There’s adrenaline rush

[junior yoke]

outlaw > sin

[arctic socket]

True actually

[junior yoke]

sad

[royal lantern]

im not native english man, i dont think too much about that, sorry

[arctic socket]

@spice spire how are you even taking Ls in the pet channel

[royal lantern]

wait what

[arctic socket]

#1146207476983812117

[royal lantern]

good

thought it was george hate

would not tolerate that

[spice spire]

?

[arctic socket]

If someone did that pretty sure everyone would throw hands

[spice spire]

Amen

[unborn hatch]

whats best set to vote for in s4 for playing m+? 🙂

[spice spire]

For m+ it’s probably s2; however I highly recommend voting on what you personally liked best

They’re supposed to tune accordingly

[subtle tundra]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[subtle tundra]

Ayo fuck that, I hate the dmg after dm

[spice spire]

Fair

[arctic socket]

For m+ if the sets the same

Is envenom splash brtter

Or cT bleed

🤔

[spice spire]

Depends on a lot namely dungeon pool

[arctic socket]

That’s true

[spice spire]

Mf I know it is, I don’t spread misinformation in chat

Just a little propaganda

[oak tangle]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[subtle tundra]

Cringe

[spice spire]

?

Yo new whispyr video dropped incredibly based topic

[spice surge]

Hatred for bis lists

[dawn moat]

Do we use garrote as 1st ability after vanish during fight? Maybe I've missed the logic in guide...

[normal mist]

One of the 3 abilities in subterfuge has to be garrote yes

Random doubt I just had, do all abilities in subterfuge get nightstalker buff?

I feel like an idiot asking this

[subtle tundra]

Spreading misinformation is cool

[spice spire]

No man

[clever forum]

funny question. How can i keep spreading Garote when the tank chain pulls and I cant stealth 😦

and i already used the invis ability.

[lean portal]

shadow dance is 1m

some packs youre just doomed

but even if ur tank perma chains you should be fine overall

[clever forum]

ok. thank you. I guess thats all we could so in those situations thanks!

[dark token]

You press garrote on cd

Even without stealth buff

[clever forum]

Thank you for answers!

[snow sinew]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Long In-depth explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:
https://youtu.be/DoZDPFk_Zog
The TLDW (I understand, it's LONG):

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths
• You still have vanish and in 10.2, shadow dance, which gives you MANY options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[clever forum]

oh big

thanks for this

[arctic socket]

Whispyr should make a video explaining why bis list are bad

[keen spruce]

[arctic socket]

Am I missing something

[keen spruce]

I just woke up i can tell if trolling

[arctic socket]

I want something to copy then ctrl v when people ask for his list

!bis

😦

[keen spruce]

Like the video he made

What like 6 hours ago?

8 hours excuse me

[arctic socket]

Exactly

It needs to be a !bis

@balmy condor slacker

[thorn fjord]

Just testing the water dont mind me

[spice spire]

I have this. Need a bit

[thorn fjord]

Person walking in to a bar is always a solid bit

[rotund oak]

already did,its on youtube under ''stats wont hurt you''

also calling names the stat-weight-simming and bis lists

and sites and all

Gigachadwhispyr

[keen spruce]

Sap doesn’t even finish scrolling through a converstaion

Before replaying

Replying

[rotund oak]

never

[gusty mirage]

no it doesn't

we already have enough useless ass commands

[rotund oak]

thats the magic

[thorn fjord]

Which ones your favorite

[gusty mirage]

the one where I get to send people on a vacation

[keen spruce]

!shmeeps

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/nicolas-cage-the-rock-smile-windy-handsome-gif-619376723223302281

[rotund oak]

plz no i love u

[gusty mirage]

people don't understand how much it takes to actually get muted

it's more of a punishment to make you stay here

that's @bleak sky 's punishment

he keeps trying to get me to mute him

but his punishment is being unmuted and suffering with me

[bleak sky]

[gusty mirage]

our suffering comrade

[spice spire]

[rotund oak]

[gusty mirage]

jealousy is ugly on you

you're so jealous your name is green with envy

[spice spire]

Sorry had to find this absolute throwback

[spice spire]

You wish mister oxi

[royal python]

I don't think it's about improved garotte, it's about indiscriminate carnage. Earlier at least it was a button with a 45 second cd, now it's stealth reliant.

[spice spire]

But you have a stealth on a minute

Also replying to the bot is wild

[void mesa]

And another one every 2 min

[quiet oar]

How fucking old is this

[spice spire]

9.0(not even .5 iirc)

[quiet oar]

Well

[void mesa]

Glad to see Whispyr was still an anime girl

Some things never change

[quiet oar]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[void mesa]

I had almost forgotten about this

[spice spire]

Menhara (I think that’s right, idk im not a weeb) even

[quiet oar]

[spice spire]

What I’m saying g

[empty hinge]

[spice spire]

[thorn fjord]

I do 🤣

[spice spire]

So do I

[quiet oar]

Quake

Log review

Now

[spice spire]

2/10 not well maintained, young, kinda dirty log

Clean it up and it could be higher

[hearty reef]

Looks like nicley baked bread/10

[spice spire]

Rookie score

[quiet oar]

[spice spire]

You’ll get it next time tiger

[arctic socket]

Bro that old pic the old green name

Fuck that’s old

[spice spire]

The red name Cev dates it even more

[sacred wedge]

im gearing up my rogue alt, and im learning my assa rotation hitting the dummy etc but whenever I vanish for the master assassin buff i go out of combat and details reset, is there anyway to prevent this from happening? looking at overalls after I stop hitting the dummy doesnt give me the live feedback that i'd usually get if i wasnt going out of combat

[spice spire]

!details

[prisma monolith]

To stop details from resetting on vanish, go into the settings and under Overall Data, make sure "Use Dynamic Overall Damage" is checked.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1173432355785027584/details_vanish.png

[spice spire]

🫡

[sacred wedge]

aaaay

i was on details 5 mins ago and didnt know what to change there

[sacred wedge]

at what level of keys does the cleave build in wowhead start being viable?

that build seems fun to play

[clever sapphire]

around 22 i guess?

under that even with a bad group mobs wont live your cooldowns alone

[pliant roost]

Errr.. how do I get to the pins on mobile?

[sacred wedge]

yeah i imagine until you finish setting up for kingsbane stuff is already dead

[gusty mirage]

dang whoever made that command sure is smart

[spice spire]

You’re the smartest tho

[gusty mirage]

yeah I made it

[clever sapphire]

if not even that, but you press cooldowns and halfway through it the mob is dead

but you could also argue, if mobs die too easily anyways, you can go cleave for pure boss dmg

and/or to just delete that one annoying mob (for example the abominations in everbloom)

i wouldnt play cleave under 20 tho

[spice spire]

I would but i’m different

[clever sapphire]

well ye, some people are just built different

[spice spire]

(Worse in my case)

[spice surge]

Constructed alternatively

[spice spire]

Assembled uniquely

[spice surge]

I also play the cleave build, idk CT just doesnt feel good to press for some reason

Even though i can look at logs/details and see that yep, it does good damage

Dopamine when PB hits on spatter is way higher, even though it doesnt matter as much

🐒 🧠

[warm void]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[spice spire]

Real

[thorn fjord]

Can we get a !doom command going?

[spice spire]

No

Doomers allowed in chat

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-goose-peace-was-never-any-option-gif-16563148593469228887

[snow sinew]

can u please link cleave build, if its a build without crimson tempest
in my rating the trash dies so fast can barely get CT up

[clever sapphire]

its on wowhead

[snow sinew]

ok i'll look it up after work

[clever sapphire]

was on anyways

[snow sinew]

tyvm

[sacred wedge]

coming from fury its impressive how many builds assa has, ngl.

what aoe build yall recommend for a beginner? gonna spam 11s for wyrms

[spice spire]

Honestly no real recommendation

It’s just what you vibe with

For ever

We only had 1/2 builds

The rework was kind

[sacred wedge]

in theory i like the spatter build because i like doing good boss damage

[spice spire]

Try it. And if you play it and don’t vibe? Go next

[sacred wedge]

ill try arterial shock too, the insta bleed out seems good for 11s. a lot of overgeared ppl spam 11s so stuff melts

[arctic socket]

The Meta would be to play full st and carry boss damage while people carry aoe 😂

[junior yoke]

But then you meet a demo warlock

Or a bm hunter

[spice spire]

That do both

Unlucky

[sweet dawn]

And yet we get nerfed, it iiis what it iiis

Good thing we're more fun than those classes (imo)

[spice spire]

[unique plume]

I play the utilitarian build because im old and cant live without acrobatic strikes

[spice spire]

Honestly you’re real for that

Respect that

[unique plume]

literally I play assa for years now because of poison bomb SPLATs. best feeling ever

[unique plume]

#authenticity

actually, when did we get poison bomb?

[spice spire]

Uh

Oh dear god

[fallow canopy]

legion?

[spice spire]

Talent was added in 8.0.1

But it was definitely in legion

Because that determined parses for the longest time

This is texts of people who played while I was absent tho

[keen spruce]

it was called bag of tricks

back then

[spice spire]

Ahh

[keen spruce]

or bag of dicks

[spice spire]

I was on an 8 year hiatus

[keen spruce]

ayo

[marsh ferry]

Yikes

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

[fallow canopy]

[keen spruce]

you can't just type that on the internet

[spice spire]

8 year break from WoW.
With significant other for 8 years

Different time table

Okay

It’s just weird they were both semi identical

Hate you mfs

[keen spruce]

I don't even remember what i was doing 8 years ago

2016 must have been pretty uneventful

[spice spire]

I was dating some egirl while living 5 hours apart

Seeing her every other weekend

In like two weeks it’ll be the eight year from totalling my car.
Three weeks after eight years of owning my current car.

That’s about it

[royal lantern]

man

2016?

its 2024 and the last 4 years are just a giant blurr

like

shit happend

thats all

[clever sapphire]

i have legit no idea what happened in the years since covid happened

can kinda remember the years before that

but the covid years?

got no clue

[royal lantern]

ye

they are just

https://tenor.com/view/static-glitch-gif-11312357

[spice spire]

I wish

[royal lantern]

and now its 2024

soon halfway to 2030

[spice spire]

I got the horrors of American healthcare during Covid

[royal lantern]

we complain about stuff

meanwhile quake has to live in america

[spice spire]

True

But I meant more so working in it during Covid

[royal lantern]

thing i remember from the entire covid stuff

was getting my first shoot

getting it before my 2nd

suffering for 1 1/2 weeks, 2months of feeling out of breath afterwards, meanwhile a co-worker went full nutjob with ALL the bullshit at once

and 1year later i got nosebleed at work and his first reaction was, i kid you not, "see, thats what happens from getting that poison into you, you idiot"

[royal lantern]

if you thought insane people are 'merica only

think again

[spice spire]

No I definitely didn’t

I’ve spoke with you 🙂

But on a non meme joke

Yeah ik it’s rough

[slate crown]

so real for this

[balmy condor]

Slack this

[gaunt sigil]

[spice spire]

It should have been me, not her

[royal lantern]

whisp is just a big mind goblin

[arctic socket]

Honestly Imma have to pass, I’m not a fan of anchovies

[spice spire]

What’s a mind goblin

[arctic socket]

Ty for the offer @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

[royal lantern]

mind gobbling these nuts

[spice spire]

I might

[royal lantern]

[arctic socket]

[spice spire]

[arctic socket]

Pretty fruity In here

[royal lantern]

good

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-and-and-okay-gif-20619947

[spice spire]

O

[shy pecan]

P

[royal lantern]

E

[shy pecan]

N

:3

[gaunt sigil]

[royal lantern]

H

[shy pecan]

E

[royal lantern]

I

[shy pecan]

S

[spice spire]

Real

[quiet oar]

!whispyrw

fuck

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[spice spire]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[spice spire]

God the grippers too

[quiet oar]

Quake

Its pretty quite in here for logs

Now that they overkilled sin

Do you enjoy the peace

and quiteness

[quaint hull]

Now fuu is getting a run for his money lul

[spice spire]

Very much yes

An easy retirement

Was the aim

[quiet oar]

Well

When we reclear

I will do the cursiest logs ever made

and you have to watch them

Beware of the Wound Poison and Instant poison logs

[proven jasper]

[shy pecan]

I'll change that

[spice spire]

Why are you this way

[spice spire]

Toxic mf I s2g

[quiet oar]

Dont worry

I wont do this

(Im reclearing as Outlaw anyways)

[spice spire]

That’s even worse

[royal lantern]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[tacit charm]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[quiet oar]

What about sub?

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-no-excuse-gif-24460693

[shy pecan]

[spice spire]

I’m literally a hater

[quiet oar]

🤝

[runic hinge]

I had a 97 volocross log on Sunday do you think that coulda been a 99 before nerfs

[spice spire]

Nah

[runic hinge]

Ok

[spice spire]

On the real

Probably

But sux

[fallow canopy]

the best thing my country ever produced

[spice spire]

They produced you

Argument invalidated bozo

[fallow canopy]

damn I'm flustered and confused

[royal lantern]

welcome to #assassination

[fallow canopy]

@spice spire going to have to produce a sin log for you to review to reciprocate dem feelings

[spice spire]

[quiet oar]

Try to not use vanish

[spice spire]

[quiet oar]

and waste your tea charges

He loves that

Alos

Use KB BEFORE Shadow dance

[fallow canopy]

no need I already do that by default

[spice spire]

[quiet oar]

Most importantly

Desync Deathmark

[royal lantern]

i read desync denmark first

and yeha

i agree

[quiet oar]

How would you Desync Denmark

[spice spire]

Yes

[snow sinew]

beautiful

[royal lantern]

truly a better place

[snow sinew]

den'tmark

[keen spruce]

mark

[spice spire]

Damn

Real haters in chat

Respect that

[balmy condor]

yeah none of those fake haters

[spice spire]

Like you

Fake hating stat enjoyers for views

[balmy condor]

it's true, you found me out

im in the pocket of big stat

[runic hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-surprise-hiding-kitten-kitty-gif-18399089

[spice spire]

Big stats wants you to feelcraft!!!

[balmy condor]

big stats is into feet

[spice spire]

Explains a lot of ur dms

[balmy condor]

but then feet told big stats that they love big stats like a brother

so

kinda L for big stats on that one

[spice spire]

Dog?

[balmy condor]

yes you are

[proven jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-theoretical-fake-dog-fake-ai-deep-fake-dog-gif-11985677374516977512

[royal lantern]

me and @blazing jewel

[spice spire]

Woof

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-dog-shy-wuba-gif-17729132519060511839

[runic hinge]

I feel like this might be about something other than feet and stats

[silk bane]

disgusting big stats, so gross, what kind of feet u got a link?

[autumn steppe]

hey guys, sry if its asked already but i couldnt find it:
On council am i actively multidotting or do i just dot the others via IC?

[balmy condor]

just the two you're able to hit

[autumn steppe]

so that means just IC?

[balmy condor]

no

[autumn steppe]

or both actively

[balmy condor]

that means dot the 2 bosses that are stacked

[autumn steppe]

ok ty

[silk bane]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-talk-walltalk-mettush-inting-gif-19895710

[sacred wedge]

im still memorizing the lingo

but what is IC

[silk bane]

pov me shitposting and whispyr :C

[royal lantern]

srsly

thats all?

[gusty mirage]

HUGE buff

ER stonks for sub

[silk bane]

indiscriminate carnage

[proven jasper]

Yo fat fucking buff echoing does SO much damage

[silk bane]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-patrick-star-patrick-fight-spongebob-fight-gif-17721615

[proven jasper]

[gusty mirage]

big find weakness buffage

[sacred wedge]

tyty, the wowhead recommended build for council doesnt even take that talent tho

[silk bane]

I knew it. blizz is eating from the pocket of big hacha

its all connected

[gusty mirage]

also works with sandglass btw

fun fact

cause the proc is phys dam

[silk bane]

LMFAO we're so back

[spice spire]

Big sub really out here

https://tenor.com/view/he-cant-keep-getting-away-with-it-gif-19335672

[balmy condor]

?????

[cerulean nest]

fight the system stay sin

[spice spire]

Nah I’m gonna stay unsubbed lil bro

But yeah

[cerulean nest]

even better

[thorn fjord]

He’s fighting the system by staying unsubbed

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/call-from-based-department-gif-25645857

[balmy condor]

it for sure does

[thorn fjord]

Beat me to it

[spice spire]

Source?

[thorn fjord]

Damn KiR gets a buff now

Booo

[balmy condor]

me bruh

[shy pecan]

When did you start playing outlaw?

[balmy condor]

[tr][td][icon name=inv_achievement_raidemeralddream_dreamcouncil inline=true size=small type=square][/icon]Council of Dreams[/td][td align=center][copy="Council of Dreams Build"][=talent-build-3870][/copy] [/td][td][url="https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/DAOFRVFRRFUVQmJBQCRENVVRUVUYUEEoVQBE"]Talent Tree Link[/url][/td][/tr]

[tr][td][icon name=inv_achievement_raidemeralddream_dreamcouncil inline=true size=small type=square][/icon] [b][color=rogue]Council of Dreams Build[/color][/b][/td][td align=center][copy="AoE Council of Dreams Build"][=talent-build-3870][/copy][/td][/tr]

in all the places its linked to build 3870

[thorn fjord]

Start of this season for M+!

[balmy condor]

this is 3870

[shy pecan]

[thorn fjord]

It’s fun 🤷‍♂️

[sacred wedge]

im going to raid tips and clicking council build

and in my screen it doesnt show ic

[spice spire]

Oh

[sacred wedge]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/amirdrassil-raid-tips here

[balmy condor]

yeh

that's what I just linked too

what exactly are you clicking

[woeful meteor]

the 9 at the top dont have IC when you scroll down it ahs

[balmy condor]

[sacred wedge]

yeah im clicking in the list at the top

[balmy condor]

but that's this first block

what the fuck

lmao

it's giving me the same build

am I getting gaslit

it's all 3870

[fallow canopy]

on the talent tree link, it opens this one:

[royal lantern]

wanna know the answer?

[balmy condor]

what is happening

[fallow canopy]

idk man, maybe big BiS is out to get you

[balmy condor]

I'm just going to make a new save

and hope that it just fucking works

idk

lmao

the actual copy build buttons work though?

[woeful meteor]

copy works for me

[balmy condor]

dumb game

[woeful meteor]

looking at it is wrong tho

[balmy condor]

fixed I guess

probably

maybe

[fallow canopy]

the talent tree below also works fine, where the description, tricks and tips and stuff is

[balmy condor]

[spice spire]

Big aggregate data out to get you king

[woeful meteor]

still wrong for me

[balmy condor]

cached idk

try in incognito

I do another save

for fun

only better than 1 is 2

[woeful meteor]

incognito worked

doing it on edge which I have never used aside from changing to another browser didn't...

[balmy condor]

[spice spire]

Don’t edge homies

[balmy condor]

what a fucking mess

[woeful meteor]

works everywhere now after clearing cache

[sacred wedge]

working for me now

[vestal wren]

thats a buff for subtlety

i guess

well kinda, you lose VT and gain FW

[cerulean nest]

they could use one

[proven jasper]

[vestal wren]

its a weird change

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/he-cant-keep-getting-away-with-it-gif-19335672

Me to sub mains

[royal lantern]

eh, its cus they make them all fit the class thematicaly

new animations and stuff

[gusty mirage]

they better keep the bell ringing sound

or RIOT

[vestal wren]

leaked new icon for it

[gusty mirage]

damn

that's mean

ER is trying its best ok?

[vestal wren]

can't wait to see what people cook up

[tawny geyser]

How do we play Council on Mythic?
The only parse thats below 80 :/
I’m having so much trouble with that fight.. do we keep applying bleeds to all 3? Do we play Caustic?

[royal lantern]

hit 1, apply bleed to the nearest other guy, hope your tanks move them togheter for cleave

you are at the mercy of your tanks for that

aka

GL

tanks have less braincells then me

[spice spire]

Damn

[waxen oyster]

who has less braincells though

tanks or healers

[sacred wedge]

azralon healers

[tawny geyser]

Hmm, but running Caustic as well ye?

[desert inlet]

Tanks deserve fewer rights

[proven jasper]

Its a cleave fight so yes caustic

[waxen oyster]

so do healers

[spice spire]

HUH

[desert inlet]

Gm

[waxen oyster]

play vdh and jump ahead of the group

as long as you're alive who cares

[desert inlet]

That's what I meant to say sry

[waxen oyster]

[shy pecan]

Talk about a way to open up your morning...

[royal lantern]

tanks

[waxen oyster]

actually

real question

tanks vs healers vs aug vokers

[spice spire]

Endwyr woke up to violence

[past forum]

If we don’t drag bear away from melee stack our havocs will get frontal’d more often than not

[shy pecan]

Yeah, apparently

Hating on the tanks >:3

[past forum]

And the melee with >.5 brain cells suffer the consequences

[waxen oyster]

its probably because backflipping through the front

is technically a bit better

[royal lantern]

augvokers

[spice spire]

Augvokers bottom prio

[royal lantern]

not even a question

[balmy condor]

I think they deserve equal rights, and lefts

[royal lantern]

augvokers are the worst players

like

its not even funny

[desert inlet]

[balmy condor]

i said equal

that's all rights

[thin ingot]

i hate themt oo

[waxen oyster]

also i swear why does the community think augs are needed for lower content

[desert inlet]

Oh my bad

[royal lantern]

actuall yuumi class in wow, all getting hard carried by others and have 0 clue what they are doing

[waxen oyster]

like they exist to make higher tyran bosses livable

[royal lantern]

[waxen oyster]

thats it

[past forum]

In principle I don’t hate aug but I cognitively understand how it has been an agent of destruction for the type of community wow has lately

[spice spire]

Gabagool spec

[waxen oyster]

i hate how i go into a group that has an aug

i can prob -2000 io

to get a gauge of how good they are

[thin ingot]

i hate how they always call for "pull biggerr" then we wipe cause we dont have enough interrupts

[royal lantern]

ye

like

3,2k aug translates into 2,4k in any other spec

not even funny

[waxen oyster]

get an aug

[thin ingot]

dude id fight an evoker irl

[waxen oyster]

get a tank with alot of stops

just brute force content

with enough ilvl

tbh

[royal lantern]

thats just m+

fail 20keys in a row

[waxen oyster]

oh yeah

[royal lantern]

get lucky with a group and get carried trought that +24

[waxen oyster]

time it once

"im good"

[royal lantern]

and then jerk of for beeing 3,3k

its why i cant take m+ serious

everyone just brute forces

and then jerks their score of

[thin ingot]

well its either that or mythic raiding

[waxen oyster]

honestly alot of the time i see people talk about "boss damage" in m+ im just like

"so you want the build where you can kill the boss before he targets the person who sucks at the mechanic with something"

[royal lantern]

and cus they cant bruteforce raids like that cus you get kicked/replaced for playing badly

they sit at 9/9heroic

and scream RAIDING DEAD M+ REAL ENDGAME

[waxen oyster]

sometimes i wonder if the playerbase has actually gotten better

[royal lantern]

a bit

[waxen oyster]

when people need infinitely more WAs to play legion dungeons

that we didnt have back in the day

[thin ingot]

i mean dude mythic raiding is ass, you pound yourself into a wall until the 2 same guys that have been fucking it up for everyone realize what tehyre doing wrong

replace them, they dont get it either, then 2 more leave

[waxen oyster]

i mean in most good guilds those guys get replaced

that being said i'd hate to raid in one of those "get CE last 2 weeks of the tier" level guilds

sounds miserable

[thin ingot]

i stopped caring this expansion, before i was sweating about CE and shit and its really hard getting ppl willing to bench

as soon as you mention it they start looking around for another guilds and you end up with a tight 20-21 man roaster

[waxen oyster]

i mean most people arent sitting perma bench

or you play a buff/debuff class and are in 90% of the time

[thin ingot]

would you think lowering mythic to 15 would be a good idea?

id love it personally

[royal lantern]

if you sit perma bench you are in a shit guild

like

you only sit for a longer time for 2 reasons

[unique sorrel]

pretend the fight doesnt exist

[royal lantern]

1: they progressed a while and dont wanna swap players now cus it goes into a kill soon

2: swapping bettwen players

[thin ingot]

thats mostly the case id say

[unique sorrel]

im preparing my brain for tindral prog

i have major brain damage already from the 30ish pulls

[thin ingot]

anyone knows if were getting a new season before next expac?

[unique sorrel]

fated

same as end of SL

[waxen oyster]

perma bench usually doesnt happen

unless uhh

[thin ingot]

was fated an ilvl restart too?

cant remember

[balmy condor]

yes

[waxen oyster]

nope

[balmy condor]

what

ofc it was

[waxen oyster]

wait didnt it just go higher

[unique sorrel]

its like any other season

[balmy condor]

"go higher" is a reset

[unique sorrel]

just old shit

[waxen oyster]

ahh true

[balmy condor]

you have to farm m+ and shit all the same

[waxen oyster]

im just waiting for timewalking siege of orgrimmar

those trinkets

oh mamma mia

[unique sorrel]

unless you dont play it

[balmy condor]

he just like me fr

fuck fated

[thin ingot]

anyone playing SoD? xd

[balmy condor]

I wouldn't know, I don't talk to classic players

[quiet oar]

Ye Subs play SoD

[balmy condor]

they scare me

[waxen oyster]

classic

pressing 1 for 5mins

[spice spire]

Classic mfs when it’s been 20 years since their game released

[misty holly]

Anyone know if recuperator is fixed in 10.2.5?

[thin ingot]

i love it when they explain mechanics

from the new BfD "raid"

[balmy condor]

doubt it

[somber sparrow]

what if it's dragon soul and we can update our legendary daggers to current ilvls 😄

[waxen oyster]

aint no way thats happening

[balmy condor]

I've seen more sane psych wards

[waxen oyster]

also the cata timewalking raid is firelands

isnt it

[balmy condor]

yes

[thin ingot]

fuck that place

[junior yoke]

-4%

[misty holly]

I'm always the worst on healing meters now and it makes me sad. In shadowlands assassination was pretty good for self healing.

recup being bugged doesnt help.

[waxen oyster]

healer job

[balmy condor]

healing meters

[thin ingot]

always current and overall damage skada windows

[misty holly]

hey everyone has fun their own way, okay.

[balmy condor]

I'm always the worst on the jump leaderboard weakaura

[waxen oyster]

skada

[misty holly]

If I can't top the dps meter than let me top the (self) healing ones!

[unique sorrel]

tindral race weakaura winners rise up

[thin ingot]

or details

same shit

[arctic hare]

I wonder if they'll ever fix it.

[waxen oyster]

details better you can rename yourself

[balmy condor]

not even remotely

[waxen oyster]

like putting the entire bee movie script in your name

(do not do this)

[thin ingot]

there was a time everyone used skada right?

or am i missremembring stuff

[balmy condor]

skada is the stat weights of damage meters

[arctic hare]

I must know, what happens?

[balmy condor]

yeah fucking a decade ago buddy

it's 2024

[waxen oyster]

makes people lag

maybe

[arctic hare]

Well now I wanna try it lmao

[waxen oyster]

idr there were some funny macros

like knew someone who had a macro that lagged people on trilliax

so they'd hit it right on laser

[arctic hare]

Dude, thats fucked up

hilarious though.

[fallow canopy]

nah, people were using it on 2014

oh shit

[spice spire]

Oh buddy

[arctic hare]

Yeah.....

[balmy condor]

I laughed and I hate you for that

[thin ingot]

ive seen people still using tell me when

instead of wa

[balmy condor]

that's kinda fine though for what they're doing

[arctic hare]

what the hell is tell me when?

[waxen oyster]

it was the old one

simpler than weakauras but can do less

[balmy condor]

like if you're just using weakauras to track your cooldowns or whatever, tellmewhen does that fine

skada is just inaccurate though

[waxen oyster]

or track like, buffs/debuffs

i used to use it in wod

[arctic hare]

hmm, seems useful

but uh, Wago.io

[waxen oyster]

its much easier to setup tbh

well, to make your own

[balmy condor]

there's a difference between less advanced, and incorrect

[waxen oyster]

then theres recount

[thin ingot]

eww

[waxen oyster]

esp since most people who used recount refused to use commas

in their numbers

[balmy condor]

recount's more accurate than skada these days I'm pretty sure

not really saying much

[waxen oyster]

no idea my wod ui was scuffed

[balmy condor]

but ya know

[waxen oyster]

i had nugcombobar and such

[balmy condor]

a classic

[thin ingot]

i was typing that

[waxen oyster]

honestly the base UI is decent now

i still hate the actionbars on the side but

[balmy condor]

it really is

I got rid of elvui at the start of the expac

and I'm glad for it

[unique sorrel]

i tried to go clean from elvui

couldnt stick it

[balmy condor]

all the elvui players bitching about lag in raid

[crisp pine]

I hate Elvui with a passion

[balmy condor]

[thin ingot]

what i hate the most about weak auras packages is that every 5 seconds i have either a cat meowing, a clown honking, some lewd anime girl moaning or a car booping

[waxen oyster]

i havent had lag

[thin ingot]

and i cant fucking tell the difference or from which weak aura package theyre coming from

[unique sorrel]

im stuck on elvui mostly from healing for keys

[waxen oyster]

i do think people add way too much

to weakaura packs

[balmy condor]

what kind of weakaura packages are you downloading

[waxen oyster]

gimme the anime girl moaning one

rq

[spice spire]

Blas0n raid pack

128GB

Mostly sounds

[balmy condor]

when I get a weakaura pack and it says "contains audio" I'm like oh fancy wow

[waxen oyster]

i remember seeing the raid lead discord

someone flamed blason

[balmy condor]

cause it's so rare to see any audio cues lmao

[waxen oyster]

"your ui has too much i cant see anything"

[balmy condor]

"someone"

you're allowed to say draco

[waxen oyster]

[balmy condor]

or really just any player above green parse heroic

dude's an actual meme machine

[waxen oyster]

"i need to track when my priest has shadow word pain on the boss"

[balmy condor]

I don't know anyone that actually thinks he's good

[thin ingot]

i need HFC fated

what was the name of that agi trinket

[gusty mirage]

lag deez nuts bud

[thin ingot]

that stored all your damage

[waxen oyster]

soulcap

[thin ingot]

that one

[waxen oyster]

didnt they make trinkets like that not 100% to proc on pull

[thin ingot]

ohhh jesus the feeling

[waxen oyster]

after wod

[balmy condor]

on god?

[spice spire]

No soulcap

[dull cloak]

soul cap on sub back then was 👌

[spice spire]

Oh god

The boomers are coming

[thin ingot]

HFC has been one of my favorites raids tbh

the loot was crispy

the bosses were mostly pog

assault was ass ik

only archimonde was just so goddam messy with the beams that you had to rely on that weakaura

[royal lantern]

god, imagine that in 2024

and blizz would be like

PRIVATE AURAS LETS GO

[junior yoke]

hey btw

check tthis war crime too

r2

[royal lantern]

me no speak french

[fallow canopy]

spanish but close enuf

[royal lantern]

there are only 3 languages in the world

english, german and french

[earnest remnant]

[dull cloak]

bro really forgot about Asia and Africa 💀

[thin ingot]

french

youre missing out on the latinas

[spice spire]

Again?

[thin ingot]

female tauren animations look very good on rogue

[sweet dawn]

If we're doing an accelerated opener what priority do we want to NOT have things

If that makes sense>

?

[runic hinge]

I go gar>snd>amb>mut>env>dm>shiv>dance/kb

Can even skip first envenom too depending on how accelerated I’m tryna be

Just get slice up and then get straight to it

And rupture your second finisher in dance

[sweet dawn]

I'm thinking for larodar mythic

To get KB in during first ads

[cloud goblet]

@runic hinge Is that with subterfuge talent?

Has to be right..

[shy pecan]

Is this with adds or without?

[runic hinge]

Without

[runic hinge]

You’re always taking subterfuge rn so with yes

[knotty heron]

@balmy condor awesome video today buddy. It was REALLY helpful 🙂

[arctic socket]

!bis

@balmy condor slacker

[spice spire]

I’m just going to link this every time

[balmy condor]

my pleasure

[quiet oar]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[spice spire]

That’s also a good bis response tbf

[quiet oar]

I mean he has clearly full Set

[spice spire]

True his mrrrtilate definitely does extra damage

[quiet oar]

And his kb with his mrrglster Assassin buff

[spice spire]

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-togepi-pokemon-run-log-gif-16829408

What a out this log

Quake

[spice spire]

0/10 not even real

Amateur hour over here

[balmy condor]

[desert inlet]

Actually the most fun log to look at

[quiet oar]

Yeah true

[spice spire]

I hate that I need this

[balmy condor]

what about

:logchamp:

[spice spire]

Yeah

That’s it

[quiet oar]

[balmy condor]

give me a second

I can do this

[spice spire]

I believe in you

[balmy condor]

you'd wish you didn't bud

[spice spire]

I’d never wish that friend

Even in my darkest hour (the toe dms)

[quiet oar]

[tawny geyser]

I just got 489 Igira dagger but I also have the Soulrender Fang on 489. However Fang sims higher by just a little bit.
But does RaidBot take into account the effect of Carver?

[balmy condor]

carver effect does no damage

[spice spire]

Effect isn’t combat stats

[balmy condor]

so no

[spice spire]

Unless you hit critters ig

But that’s negative so

[runic hinge]

Gotta use critter buff so you can flex when you parse

[junior yoke]

I use r2 enchant, bis

[spice spire]

You have to be stopped man

[quiet oar]

Whispyr

Hurry up

For logchamp

Want to go to sleep

[spice spire]

Why’s everyone bullying him man

[balmy condor]

I'm working man I can't find my color overlay button

[quiet oar]

[shy pecan]

Everyone jumping in on the actual log reviews

[spice spire]

I really hate this

[quiet oar]

I mean doesnt He Billy everyone Too

[spice spire]

Where this is going

[quiet oar]

[spice spire]

Nah he’s actually a nice lad

[quiet oar]

Yeah ofc

[spice spire]

At least to me

[balmy condor]

who

[quiet oar]

But He memes also the bully

[runic hinge]

We should bully more people

[quiet oar]

You

[balmy condor]

asked

[spice spire]

I asked

[balmy condor]

oh

[spice spire]

Holy fuck

Get owned bozo

I survived dispel Bob

You think I’m gonna fall for that

[quiet oar]

Im in love with quake now

[spice spire]

Sorry I’m emotionally unavailable

I’ve grown rather fond of you as well

[quiet oar]

[spice spire]

I’m still trying to think of the best (worst) response to that outside of like “okay”

And I think that’s up there

[quiet oar]

Woah wtf

Im only worth an "okay"?

[spice spire]

No no not to you specific

Just in general

“You’re alright” stings less than “I’ve grown rather fond of you as well”

[shy pecan]

[spice spire]

So I’m trying to find the right mix of sincere and funny here

[shy pecan]

Just go with straight up rejection

[spice spire]

“Nah LMFAO”?

[quiet oar]

Use this

https://tenor.com/view/test-spray-testing-gif-12514630

Water isnt toxic

Right

[shy pecan]

[spice spire]

Damn that’s rough

[balmy condor]

any color theory knowers

[shy pecan]

[balmy condor]

nvm I figured it out

I remembered my color theory

[gusty mirage]

okay

whispyr are you raiding tonight

[balmy condor]

yes

[gusty mirage]

that okay was the wrong discord

okay I watch you

cause we moved our thursday to wednesday

[spice spire]

Brother I don’t even know color

[balmy condor]

what do you think

[spice spire]

I can’t see shit

Wtf

[balmy condor]

it's poggers

but with a log

[spice spire]

Am I lit

[balmy condor]

it's wood

[spice spire]

Buddy I’ll show you wood

Okay I see it actually

🫡

[balmy condor]

I'm working on it

[quiet oar]

Ok

No i saw enough wood

And Logs

I can finally sleep in Peace

[storm forum]

Loggers

[balmy condor]

okay but like

we're getting there

improvements are happening

[spice spire]

Yes

[storm forum]

Fuck I see it now

[spice spire]

I see it

The Vision

[storm forum]

Still think it looks more like granite or lava than a log though

[solid wagon]

Probably a stupid question that hajs been answered but I'm working alot these days so I couldn't find the answer in less than 10 mins: Which set bonus are we voting for?

[balmy condor]

whispyr a man that can truly do it all

[balmy condor]

the one you think is most fun

[spice spire]

Whichever you prefer

[balmy condor]

but shouldn't really matter cause season 3 is ahead by a landslide so your opinion is irrelevant anyways

[spice spire]

They’re supposed to tune accordingly

Jesus man

[alpine juniper]

Do yhou sit on both shiv charges for kingsbane or do you use them outside of it?

[balmy condor]

hold both

[storm forum]

Whichever you think will let me unsub with the least fomo

[alpine juniper]

Kool so I haven't messed that up

[balmy condor]

first time in a democracy?

[spice spire]

Nah older than u r bozo

[alpine juniper]

I tried the more aoe build and found even in 20s, shit dies too fast

[balmy condor]

yeah

[storm forum]

Yeah I feel that.

[balmy condor]

the "even in 20s" part here

is carrying hard

cause 20's are a stomp

[alpine juniper]

I mean when my rogue was 442, i was doing 20s, 20's are the new 5s IMO

[balmy condor]

you'll have less issues in higher keys

[storm forum]

Kind of a coin toss in my experience. Sometimes dps do tank damage and I feel like I'm giga. Sometimes they're normal and we blast too fast.

[alpine juniper]

The amount of pugs I had carry my rat rogue through keys her first week...

[balmy condor]

but then in higher keys people max slam single target talents

so the kingsbane cranks again

so you actually have the same issue