assassination

[spice spire]

Happens. We move on we grustle

At least you’re not 700+ deep on tindral right?

[royal lantern]

actually have a valid reason to radiant my hater energy for once

[wraith cosmos]

how much of a dmg difference is PI and wf?

[spice spire]

20ish k

Little more

[spice spire]

Tiers rough on guilds

[wraith cosmos]

thats pretty rough

kinda makes me sad i went from full purple on aberrus to having 4 blue parses in s3

[shy dust]

why

parses are not a big deal

just be a more than competant player and be fine with that

[wraith cosmos]

more that it feels like i got worse at playing the spec

[spice spire]

God ur so based Rae

Thing is

He’s right

[shy dust]

if you're out of practice you might be

but also

tons go into parsing than your level of play

parsing well does not equal playing the spec well

[waxen oyster]

be me and not have a branch drop

until sin gets nerfed twice

[wraith cosmos]

ye, luck with gearing too

[waxen oyster]

idk that was a huge outlier

[shy dust]

being unlucky with a piece of gear before nerfs is a huge outlier?

[spice spire]

Return of the king

[still tide]

any other roguesthat havent gotten nick of time to drop yet wanna spam fall and help eachother get it?

[shy dust]

go spend 1,000 baubles in eternal palace

then complain about one trinket

[spice spire]

Okay grandpa lets get you to bed

[shy dust]

rng aint a big deal

just play well

all you can do

[pliant bluff]

Anyone still not get their Nick of Times? Ive ran FALL about 65 times

[still tide]

me

its bull shit

[pliant bluff]

its insane

[still tide]

the other rogue in my guiold got 2 week 1

i just need to rogue stack

[rare jackal]

my KB got parried on igira today

pretty epic

[still tide]

HUH

no shot

[pliant bluff]

lolol what?

Bye bye dmaage

[still tide]

that has to be the most unlucky shit

[rare jackal]

yep

[thorn fjord]

@royal lantern guild drama?

[waxen oyster]

alot lol

pants are honestly really good too and come with free leech

[pliant bluff]

loot pool is big... but the drop rate for the weaponis worse than invincible

[waxen oyster]

i got 2 in like 15 runs

ymmv

[balmy condor]

is it really free if you had to do m+ to get them

[waxen oyster]

branch took me 34

[waxen oyster]

REAL

[pliant bluff]

branch i gotr in like 5 runs... but id rather have my weapons

[shy dust]

assa in m+ is fun tho.

[still tide]

i love assa m+

[spice spire]

This mf too busy in maplestory

[balmy condor]

yeh the problem isn't assa in m+ it's m+

[shy dust]

thats pretty fair

[pliant bluff]

how much DPS does the proc from the weapon push out

[shy dust]

they need to bring back the all star dungeons for next season

[still tide]

yeah i got brandch week 1 but id trade it all for the nick of time

[waxen oyster]

oh its bursting in m+

[shy dust]

let people cook in kings rest and siege

[balmy condor]

1%

[waxen oyster]

time to run SD and watch people mald

[pliant bluff]

wouldnt know since i ran the dungeon 185 times with no drop

[waxen oyster]

when they say dont refresh

[still tide]

i have a 489 igira dagger and a 483 tindral dagger, if i had two 483 nicks i would gain almost 2k dps

[balmy condor]

that's not true

what

[waxen oyster]

483 nick doesnt outsim 489 igira in mainhand for alot of people

[balmy condor]

489 igira is better yeah

[waxen oyster]

also good to note that the timestrike is the same regardless of ilvl

[balmy condor]

oh

tindral

[still tide]

ye

[pliant bluff]

which dagger is igira?

[still tide]

but the igira dagger goes hard

[balmy condor]

makes sense

[waxen oyster]

cruel dreamcarver

[pliant bluff]

ah yeah i got that

on use is annoying

[balmy condor]

?

the thing you press once

and then never again?

[still tide]

that shit is just for flavor

[pliant bluff]

lol

[balmy condor]

how is that annoying

[pliant bluff]

@balmy condor any new assass videoscoming out?

[balmy condor]

perhaps

[pliant bluff]

Im slacking on learning Sub

[waxen oyster]

it comes off if you swap off the weapon

[balmy condor]

might do one on why people are dumb about stats

[waxen oyster]

and log out

otherwise no

[balmy condor]

it persists through logout

[still tide]

i wanna get good at sub again but id have to like redo all my stats

[balmy condor]

ah see

case in point

[waxen oyster]

not if you log out in gear without it on

yeah

you can get the good buffs right in valdrakken though

or from the punching bag toys

[still tide]

i dont have the mastery for sub pls i swaer im not dumb

[waxen oyster]

fish head is beast

[balmy condor]

sounding pretty dumb to me

[waxen oyster]

turnip/love fool is mechanical

[shy dust]

did you know

you could get good at sub

with 0 stats

[runic hinge]

I have 25% haste clearly I'll do 0 damage as sub, maybe even negative damage, maybe I can heal

[still tide]

oh yeah i know but id only switch to do more dmg on smoldy but id rather just spend less effort with sin that I already play really well.

[balmy condor]

I suck at sub

[pliant bluff]

same

[waxen oyster]

it can be annoying yeah since sub typically wants you to learn specific cd timings boss per boss

thats one thing cdr adds flexibility with

[pliant bluff]

hard enough me timing KB with 6 secxonds before Shiv

[royal lantern]

spec is so overtuned that it doesnt matter anyway

[waxen oyster]

on smold all your cds just line up anyway

[royal lantern]

ye

[still tide]

i played sub last patch and got pretty good but it took the whole damn patch lmao

[balmy condor]

dude I was doing 10% less dps on smold yesterday compared to my assa kill lmao

I don't understand

maybe I'm washed

[spice spire]

Maybe?

Ur sub OTP days are over homie

[waxen oyster]

sub last patch was so weird

[spice spire]

DOMs could never field a sub rogue

On principle

[waxen oyster]

it was less of a burst spec more of a sustained oogabooga spec

[still tide]

true'

[waxen oyster]

mash gloomblade like 500x

[balmy condor]

I definitely prefer new sub

I'm just trash at it

lmao

[still tide]

good ole gloomblade

[balmy condor]

also way too many combo points jesus

[waxen oyster]

they brought it back to being a burst spec

[balmy condor]

part of that is tier fault

but fucking hell

[still tide]

thats why i cant play outlaw

[waxen oyster]

surprised the combo point generation hasnt caused complaints

[still tide]

my brain too stupid

[waxen oyster]

from pvp minigame andys

[balmy condor]

it's legit twice the cp I'm used to

[pliant bluff]

thanks bucket

made me feelso much better

[still tide]

that makes me feel worse

i already mount farm

i dont need this

[waxen oyster]

when i did fall i just got the gloves

over and over

[shy dust]

sub had been that for years

[waxen oyster]

sl sub was yes

bfa it was just dead spec

[shy dust]

bfa it was also a sustained dps spec

and had its uses

[waxen oyster]

zul before the spec got

nuked from orbit

[shy dust]

sub was fine for orgozoa

[waxen oyster]

i guess you could argue sl sub was slightly more bursty in that brief interim period of venthyr unholy gems.

until blood set kyrian took over and threw that out the window

[pliant bluff]

Anyone else sim?States i should be doing 170k dps but im hitting like 140k max.

[waxen oyster]

most interesting was sepulcher venthyr sin made a poor man's max expedient bfa sin rogue

[royal lantern]

BfA sub played fine

it just didnt do any dmg cus blizz went full braindead for balancing on it lol

[waxen oyster]

pressing crimson tempest on st because you had infinite haste

[royal lantern]

and exsang

[shy dust]

exsang was amazing

[waxen oyster]

tbh was a fun shift

from vanish with MA and 3x double dose

of most of bfa

[royal lantern]

your PFP is speaking rn

[shy dust]

were you comparing yourself to a dummy

and also did you have every single buff

[waxen oyster]

that was the build iirc, font+coral and 3x double dose traits

[shy dust]

on top of that you are more than likely making rotational mistakes

[royal lantern]

on run #53 i got my dagger

stay strong

[still tide]

atleast im not alone

[royal lantern]

[still tide]

thanks boss

[waxen oyster]

i got my 2nd one the other day just running for weeklies

[pliant bluff]

Care to state your ST rotation? I feel like im notmi3ssing much

[waxen oyster]

and because fall is a short dungeon

[shy dust]

Read the guide

[still tide]

i'm sick to my stomach

[waxen oyster]

i know a guy who came back and got it on his 3rd

[shy dust]

log a boss or hitting a training dummy for 5 mins or so and see if someone can look it over

[still tide]

my vaults were really good last season but this season they have all been shit

[waxen oyster]

but yeah for me the redeeming part is most s3 dungeons can be run under 20mins

which makes farming a bit less pain

[still tide]

true

[waxen oyster]

i do remember some people in nyalotha were advocating for crit corruption sin though

with reaping flame major

[pliant bluff]

Yeah - Im literally the only progression rogue in my guild. So no one really to critique me

[still tide]

its hard when you're the only rogue

[shy dust]

theres always people to critique you

im sure some people will look at your log and point out mistakes

[worthy drift]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[thorn fjord]

S’ok I suck at OL 🤣

[runic hinge]

IT's okay I suck at wow

[plain onyx]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[olive veldt]

Anyone got nick of time in vault yet?

Hungry for some tertiary pron

[pliant bluff]

nope

[runic hinge]

I have a 489

[mighty gust]

Got one week 2 vault. Never got the 483 tho

[ripe gulch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/46dc3fD3FZwPcXMg3NM8QT
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8dxoWrNuVWhRoxWbzxUeGv

any particular reason why the dps gap is so massive?

[quiet oar]

Because sin rogue doesnt sim high

Never did

[arctic socket]

Sub rogue hit different

[quiet oar]

Also mydas

[balmy condor]

also your trinkets are shit lmao

[quiet oar]

You want branch or ashes

[balmy condor]

wait

[ripe gulch]

they're also bad for sub tho

[balmy condor]

that's an m+ setup

I'm just gonna fix this

[balmy condor]

less bad though

[ripe gulch]

wait true

lemme see

gonna change talents

[quiet oar]

Nah mydas is fine for sub

Hourglass is ok

[ripe gulch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2E7H23XsGRZmVmQyBbJGkk

yeah thats higher

[balmy condor]

yeah and now with a 463 branch

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wYu4cdUisAAHQAVg76jaZG

[ripe gulch]

It's all I have 😭

[ripe gulch]

wtf

[balmy condor]

these talents are still wrong

what is you doing

what the fuck is this

[ripe gulch]

idk, arent those pure st?

[balmy condor]

I've never seen this build in my life

where did you even get this

[ripe gulch]

idk mang

just a random video probably

[balmy condor]

[ripe gulch]

the setup you used for my sim

is it for raid

[balmy condor]

yes

[ripe gulch]

doesnt play carnage

so if i go m+ what do i swap to get carnage

[balmy condor]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/talent-builds-pve-dps#mythic-talent-build

pick one

[lucid knoll]

first time stepped into mythic raid after reroling from dh

still got my s1 server name here lmao

[outer cairn]

wish i could parse like that on mythic

[olive veldt]

Smells like PI!

[lucid knoll]

yeah, it is with PI 😅

[olive veldt]

Would love an intelligent priest/ pi macro buddy. Hnngh so good when it hits

[kindred crescent]

I am blind, i didnt know kindey shot affected rupture.... Big rip.

[arctic hare]

what?

OH, yeah, it does freeze bleeds and other effects on the targets doesn't it.

[violet jackal]

internal bleeding was originally a talent for pvp

[kindred crescent]

it was a regular talent in the past and trolls would take it over iron wire for extra dps in keys instead of crazy good utility.

[arctic socket]

Looks like a pretty solid build to me

[shy pecan]

[arctic socket]

Didn’t say it was good

But I mean looks solid

[spice spire]

[arctic socket]

Don’t do that

Alright Illinois

[spice spire]

I am not in mental Illinois

Correct

[arctic socket]

Hol up

Got ya

[shy pecan]

What's wrong with that?

[spice spire]

What I’m saying man

[arctic socket]

There isn’t

[balmy condor]

[shy pecan]

[winged sun]

[spice spire]

[storm forum]

huh

[spice spire]

?

[shy pecan]

Wut

[storm forum]

idk i just walked into whispyr going

[balmy condor]

[spice spire]

Oh

That’s normal stuff

[winged sun]

‎

[winged sun]

This one wins

[spice spire]

That’s not even an emote bud

Holy get owned

[winged sun]

Its too small u cant even click it

[spice spire]

That’s what she said too real

[balmy condor]

[spice spire]

Mm

[storm forum]

damn

they really cast vanish on us huh

[alpine juniper]

Why does the Cleave build sim +/- margin of error in M+ vs the hybrid Build? I find the AP build easier, but my aoe damage feels lacking in 20s

[balmy condor]

cleave build sims similar cause it loses aoe for more single target

that's the trade off

[alpine juniper]

I see on u.gg and subcreation the cleave build is the most popular

[shy pecan]

It's whatever build you're more comfortable playing

[balmy condor]

that's cause m+ meta is just a human centipede of people eating whatever the high end m+ players regurgitate

and on the high end the meta right now is "do single target or you're worthless"

[spice spire]

Bro said the thing

[balmy condor]

also please never use u.gg

I might actually throw up

my acid reflux

[alpine juniper]

I mean Dratty promotes it, must be good AMIRITE?

[balmy condor]

SURELY

I cannot imagine a streamer promoting something bad

especially a streamer that often just says really wrong things

[shy pecan]

Something something getting paid to promote a website something something

[balmy condor]

unimaginable

[woeful meteor]

is u gg worse than subcreation

[balmy condor]

surprisingly yes

[woeful meteor]

how

[balmy condor]

idk man

I didn't think it was possible either

[winged sun]

Hi Tamaran

[woeful meteor]

they misinterprete the same data wrong

Hi Zeross

[shy pecan]

I know that they were promoting boomies run three pieces of tier at one point

only three

[balmy condor]

u.gg has the added benefit of also being the brainchild of a shitass parent company

one of those gaming companies you've never heard of

[sour oasis]

Hello guys

WHat do u think

We need to play with Sandglass

or Signet ?

with Ashes

[balmy condor]

those aren't really comparable trinkets

like yeh they do single target

[sour oasis]

Yeah i know

I speak about pure single target

[balmy condor]

but you can't really use signet until smolderon in mythic

[sour oasis]

For MM raid

Oh ok

[balmy condor]

everything else dies too fast

if signet can't ramp

it's a bad trinket

[sour oasis]

So Larodar MM u advice me to play with Sandglass

at same ilvl

thx Whispyr ❤️

[balmy condor]

yeh I probably would

I played signet on larodar this week

and it was... fine

wasn't troll

but it ain't really great

[tulip stratus]

can we use axes? or is that antoehr spec

[balmy condor]

outlaw only

sub and assa require 2 daggers

[tulip stratus]

thanks

[plain moon]

Can’t sub technically use a normal one hander

[balmy condor]

yeah I'd ban you though

[plain moon]

Fair

[spice spire]

ackshually have we theorycrafted using fok as a builder instead of mutilate while using axes

[runic hinge]

Should get muted for suggesting that

[balmy condor]

that shit was so wild to me

how far we swing

[gusty mirage]

come on

you weren't a little bit curious

2x folly fok only build

HUGE

BIG MEME BEAM

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

"nah nah nah use axes in m+ for the slappers, you don't need mut"

and now it's

"drop fucking ct and play a raid build"

obviously things have changed a lot

but

[spice spire]

Assassination’s goal is to make the most rancid and mid m+ builds possible

[gusty mirage]

I'll tell you what hasn't changed

[spice spire]

So we’re so fucking back

[gusty mirage]

the mental illness that is mythic plus

[balmy condor]

true

[spice spire]

[shy pecan]

[spice spire]

M+ brain is mental Illinois

Real

[gusty mirage]

I'll never forget the azerite trait wars of 2019

[shy pecan]

You know what's also mental illinois? playing wow

[spice spire]

God ur so real for that

[gusty mirage]

or the heart of azeroth essence wars of 2019

SHOW ME ONE SIM

YOU BABOON

[spice spire]

Except it’s where @ember mural my goat is

[gusty mirage]

someone tag guy and say blood of the enemy was better than iris

do it

doz is in wisconsin you fucking idiot

[spice spire]

@sudden brook blood of the enemy was better than iris

(I was told to I’m sorry)

[balmy condor]

blood of the iris

yep

[gusty mirage]

focusing enemy

[spice spire]

Kill me

[spice spire]

fk u

[gusty mirage]

fk u

[spice spire]

When

[gusty mirage]

you're probably still at work aren't you

you lil corporate cuck

[spice spire]

Yes man

[gusty mirage]

man acts like he owns the hospital

[spice spire]

Literally waiting outside a room rn

[gusty mirage]

just go home fucking loser

lmao

[spice spire]

?

Final room visit

Then spreadsheet hell

Damn

[gusty mirage]

I was advised not to take OTC pain meds while I'm still suspicious of a concussion @spice spire

do I just pop some aleve and live dangerously?

[spice spire]

I mean I wouldn’t

[gusty mirage]

but my head hurts

[balmy condor]

which one

[spice spire]

Usually otc pain meds cover what you’re actually feeling

Which is good

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

But what if it’s more serious

You need to know the painge

Also something something blood thinning something something brain bleed

[gusty mirage]

yes

[winged sun]

And better than breath of the dying

Add that

[gusty mirage]

that was the worry

[keen spruce]

just don't a poosy

and boof like 50mg of oxy

[gusty mirage]

why don't I boof your asshole instead bud

[spice spire]

50mg of himself?

Kinda fucked innit

[gusty mirage]

that's a long ass hog cranking sess

[spice spire]

Gotta charge the JO crystal my guy

[arctic socket]

[keen spruce]

refreeze codine into an otter pop and ice rod therapy that bad boy

cool and refreshing

[gusty mirage]

you live in the PNW don't you

[keen spruce]

[gusty mirage]

yall mfers do too much drugs

[spice spire]

Spit

[keen spruce]

oh

i thought i was outed by calling it an otter pop

not the drug use

based tho

[balmy condor]

I live in the pacific midwest

[sudden brook]

what......

[gusty mirage]

bro

[balmy condor]

I'm dying my hair black and singing mcr

[gusty mirage]

otter pops are elite

[arctic socket]

[gusty mirage]

that's more ohio

[keen spruce]

yeah but parts of the country call them

[gusty mirage]

@cerulean walrus confirm

[keen spruce]

freeze pops

or freezies

or some other weird shit

[gusty mirage]

I have also called them freeze pops

otter pops was the name brand shit

the good good

[keen spruce]

ye costco

sold the like 5000 pack

[spice spire]

It was a bit it was a bit it was a bit It was a bit it was a bit it was a bit It was a bit it was a bit it was a bit

[gusty mirage]

he wants to know your opinion on blood of the iris vs focusing enemy

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[spice spire]

I’ve only heard of rumblings of the infamous azerite trait war

[royal lantern]

you give guy some real ptsd rn

[spice spire]

That happened before I was even playing again

[arctic socket]

Anima power

Bring it back

[gusty mirage]

bro

[spice spire]

That’s a mute

[gusty mirage]

it never left

you can go run torghast rn

[keen spruce]

I think I was still exclusively shit posting in OT

[spice spire]

If I’ve ever seen one

[keen spruce]

during that time

[spice spire]

Bring back conduit mfs

[gusty mirage]

zine ran me out of this place

and then he proceeded to dono wall my happy new year message

😦

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

And now he’s the cutest mf known to man

[gusty mirage]

and he IGNORED me

[balmy condor]

he nita max wynn

[gusty mirage]

fucking bitch

@rigid mango

[spice spire]

Would

[gusty mirage]

bless you

OT 2.0 > OT

change my mind

[spice spire]

Something something 4am

[shy pecan]

[spice spire]

?

[royal lantern]

hes confused that you even had to say it in the first place

[spice spire]

True

Iykyk

[cerulean walrus]

Can confirm Midwest emo here

I dyed my hair black and still sing MCR

WHEN BOTH OUR CAAAAAAAAARS COLLIDE

[arctic socket]

Imagine not having black hair by birth

Losers

[blazing jewel]

Midwest emo 📈

[earnest remnant]

sleep token

[runic hinge]

Helena made my top 100 this year

Ghost of you was #6

oh god I might be emo

[glacial lantern]

Which spec has the strongest priority target between these 4?

Sin, outlaw, fury or s priest

[storm forum]

That's 4, but I would expect it to be Sin.

I haven't done the math though

[spice surge]

Should be sin or fire

[runic hinge]

Do either of the healing priest specs want haste/mastery

[keen spruce]

I was just listenin to them on the way to my haircut

[storm forum]

Iirc holy wants that for m+

And some holy builds like some haste for raid, but the default raid build doesn't want haste.

I was wrong, the holy m+ build likes crit/haste, not mast/haste

[runic hinge]

Guess I’m only playing shadow

[violet sonnet]

brew or dust

whats cookin rn

wait

wrong spec channel

[spice spire]

[storm forum]

its fine for disc tbh, you'll do a little less damage but mastery doesn't hurt for burst healing in raid, and it's quite good for ST healing in dungeons

[spice spire]

Ur gonna leave me again aren’t you

[storm forum]

im leaving everyone

[spice spire]

Rude

How could you do this to me

[storm forum]

i have commitment issues

ive never had a gf for more than 2 weeks

[spice spire]

[spice spire]

Everything reminds me of her

[cerulean nest]

the amount that tindral parries when the fight requires so much micro movement and repositioning is gonna make me scream

[plain mortar]

Can someone tell me what the command is where you load your logs from a fight and it tells you where to improve

[blazing jewel]

It doesn’t end on fyrakk either buddy

Boss is constantly running around in p1

[bright turret]

fyrakk has a bunch of cast bars, so it's way harder to get KB parried

[plain mortar]

!commands

!logs

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[shy pecan]

@spice spire I got another log for you to review

[spice spire]

?

[shy pecan]

One sec, I'll post it

Can you review these logs?

[spice spire]

Nice and old but brittle and cut 7.2/10

[shy pecan]

tyty

[spice surge]

Arborist+wow player, the perfect combo to review logs all day

[spice spire]

Should see my hog reviews

[spice surge]

Im not privy to those kinds of discords im afraid

But i can imagine

[spice spire]

Get ur mind outta the gutter I’m from the rural southeast I know a thing or two about farm animals

(I don’t but that ruins the narrative)

[formal field]

whats better for low key spams when im highi lvl.. subt or ass?

[shy pecan]

I can send you logs to review in #subtlety if you want

[spice spire]

Subt probably unless you’re like the only one doing damage

I’m which case either are fine

[bright cipher]

👀 make it class agnostic and i will share it elsewhere

[shy heron]

That one split is pretty bad but overall 7.5/10

[arctic socket]

Sus

Poor goats

Wait

[spice spire]

HUH

[arctic socket]

Wait

How long have you been without someone 8 years?

[spice spire]

Why r u such a toxic mf

[balmy condor]

I’ve been with my girl for 8 years do I have to worry about her lifespan

[arctic socket]

Whispyr shh

[spice spire]

Yeah because I’m coming in

[arctic socket]

I love you quake

[balmy condor]

Coming in what

[shy pecan]

Goddamn, and I thought I was the toxic one to Quake

[arctic socket]

You know

[spice spire]

[fleet pagoda]

[spice spire]

Nah I’ve been terrorized

You’re just a mild hater

[arctic socket]

What am I

[spice spire]

Mfs find my actual sad points

Dead 2 me

[arctic socket]

oh

At least i have whispyr n shmeeps

[spice spire]

It’s okay I’m in a worse boat with myself

Shmeeps is a certified menace too

[green apex]

Iron Wire for Master Assassin in the Aerterial AOE spec? Not sure what point to drop to pick it up

[arctic socket]

You misspelt scana

[spice spire]

Don’t drop iron wire

[green apex]

Looking to pick it up not drop it

[spice spire]

I actually love all the regulars here on the real tho

O

[green apex]

~_^

[blazing jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wear-bread-face-wacky-gif-9522132

I’ll kiss quake on the mouth rn

[arctic socket]

I summoned them

He probably wouldn’t mind

[blazing jewel]

Idc even if he has stubble or a beard

[spice spire]

Not if I kiss you first pal

[arctic socket]

You don’t like stubble?

[spice spire]

It’s a full beard rn

[arctic socket]

[spice spire]

Gotta trim

[fleet pagoda]

what's the build look like? i think most people are taking both IW and MA

[arctic socket]

Stubble is amazing

[spice spire]

This is why I was confused

[green apex]

BMQAcWb37Z8KXj8LlE1rTPXfshEJJJQAAAAAAIlkIlkAAAAAAAtWSCSgkkSaBRkEJJJJRrViEA

[arctic socket]

I haven’t seen a m+ build that doesn’t take ma n iw

[shy pecan]

Guess it's time to up my game

[spice spire]

Mfs tryna kick me while I’m down

[arctic socket]

Quake can only handle so much

[spice spire]

Respect that tbh

[arctic socket]

Gotta make you stronger

[spice spire]

I can handle a lot big dog

[arctic socket]

oh really now?

[fleet pagoda]

maybe Improved Poisons would be a good drop for this build

[spice spire]

That wasn’t an innuendo.
I work in the NICU/Cancer Ward/Psych ward. Words ain’t gonna break my innuendo. Also if I could log in I’d double check

[fleet pagoda]

I only say that because it's the meta AP build closest to what you made though...

[green apex]

TY!

[runic hinge]

Is there anything better than MA

[fleet pagoda]

I assumed you've already checked them but incase you haven't, the guides referenced in the pins have a variety of builds that will treat you well

[frozen iris]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[honest oxide]

whats the command for the dagger buffs?

the dreamcarver

[spice spire]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[spice spire]

🫡

[honest oxide]

tyty

[arctic socket]

Critter pic bis

Idk why humanoid is that

Or critter Is a pig

But hey

[spice spire]

It was for the hog review

[desert inlet]

[spice spire]

[upbeat needle]

whats the build for keys now is it always jsut the kingsbane one?

[spice spire]

Kb is in almost every build yes

There are also like 6 m+ builds

Pick whichever you vibe with best and goon it

[upbeat needle]

WUT o.O

[tranquil locust]

Hey guys, are external buffs included when looking at someone's parses?

Or are they reattributed

[spice spire]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/talent-builds-pve-dps

[spice spire]

Depends. Aug has hooks but PI, etc. are included in the parse

[tranquil locust]

Thank you! Looks like I won't get top parses without PIs on me

Annoying but oh well

[desert inlet]

delete PI

sign the petition

[spice spire]

+1

[tranquil locust]

Delete pi and aug and I'll double sign it

[spice spire]

God ur so based for that one

[tranquil locust]

I'm edgey what can I say

[shy pecan]

Signing the delete PI petition

[cursive quiver]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[upbeat needle]

legs off peice yea?

[balmy condor]

Yeh but doesn’t really matter

Leg is leg is leg

It’s not like the tier legs have mold on them or something

[gilded oasis]

mine do

[shy pecan]

Same

Also, wrong stats, right @balmy condor?

[gilded oasis]

it's 2024 is there really a wrong stat

[shy pecan]

Yeah, putting money into a WoW sub

[balmy condor]

Oh that reminds me that I never hit upload on that video

[shy pecan]

[balmy condor]

I wonder if I can remote in from work and do that

[shy pecan]

Probably

[gilded oasis]

ill log in and do it

you can trust me

[shy pecan]

Totally can imagine you having remote access to your desktop from like your phone...

[gilded oasis]

how else am I supposed to not afk out of wow

[shy pecan]

Get Willow to play for you

Duh

[gilded oasis]

[shy pecan]

I hear a cat outside my window like every night just meowing and your, Foss's, and Endwyr's cat photos make me want to get one

[gilded oasis]

just open your window

here kitty kitty

[shy pecan]

I'm on the fifth floor with no balcony 😦

[gilded oasis]

better start building a ramp or stairs.

[shy pecan]

It's meowing that loud

[gilded oasis]

yeah they can be loud

if I leave the room and forget to tell willow and she wakes up she starts WAILING so loud until I go get her or she finds me

Or like when she leaves the room we are in and sits in the hall and just YOWLS. wtf are you doing?

[shy pecan]

lol

[desert inlet]

boots is a quiet little guy

he just sits in his lounger

he meows a little when he's hungry

but only if you're like, near the food

[shy pecan]

[balmy condor]

Eat your heart out Ed

20 minutes of me screaming into a void

Coming to a YouTube homepage near you

[desert inlet]

is it a youtube video about how secondary stats are very important and you need exactly 19.3% haste or you'll do 0 dam?

[gilded oasis]

[shy pecan]

[shy pecan]

Also,

[gilded oasis]

[balmy condor]

No it’s a YouTube video where I talk shit

And then show how dumb stats are

And then say “sim yourself”

[desert inlet]

talk ur shit king

[balmy condor]

That’s the whole tldr

I go “u.gg dogshit, subcreation dogshit”

[gilded oasis]

well now I dont have to watch it

I didnt even know u.gg existed so there

[desert inlet]

I like u.gg

for league

[gilded oasis]

I like u too

gg

[shy pecan]

y no "bis lists dogshit"?

[desert inlet]

[balmy condor]

That’s after the u.gg dogshit

[shy pecan]

oh ok

I guess that's acceptable

[balmy condor]

I actually pull up my own wowhead bis list

And I’m like

Yeah this is ass

[shy pecan]

[balmy condor]

Cause ya know

I have a spine

[desert inlet]

vertebrate brag...

[shy pecan]

[gilded oasis]

based

[balmy condor]

Bugs everywhere punching the air

[shy pecan]

Can we just have a !stats link to that video across all the spec channels?

[gilded oasis]

game too hard I dont know what gear to get

uninstalling

[shy pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/good-good-evil-smile-evil-grin-racoon-gif-17020508

[gilded oasis]

instructions unclear, accidentally bought 3 more wow accounts

[shy pecan]

Happens

[runic hinge]

I use op.gg

What champ do you main

[desert inlet]

thresh/nami

but me aram only now

[runic hinge]

I played a normal for the first time since october today

They ff'ed at 15

[desert inlet]

ur 2 good

[runic hinge]

we duo?

[desert inlet]

aram only

[runic hinge]

ok fine

[desert inlet]

also

[runic hinge]

lmfao

[arctic hare]

brother...

[runic hinge]

let's hear it

[arctic hare]

are you alright?

That many games of League does something to a man.

[runic hinge]

Been playing since season 1 so it's just a lot over a lot of years

it's slowed down a lot lately

[arctic hare]

Doesn't matter how many its been over what period lmao

you still played that many games 🤣

[runic hinge]

Less time than I've spent playing wow

[arctic hare]

Heh, fair.

[runic hinge]

Also the only time my gf complains about how loud I get gaming is when I play league, says something

[arctic hare]

Yeah, league makes people rage

and rage fuckin HARD

[runic hinge]

Yeee, I don't type tho, I just yell to myself

[arctic hare]

my brother tried getting me into it, and I played zed for a bit

tried warwick once, was meh, and enjoyed talyn as well

very rogue-like

[runic hinge]

I used to play a lot, I'm too boomer for how fast you gotta react now

And WoW has been too fun lately

[arctic hare]

yeah, thats fair

recently I managed to get into the rhythm of windwalker, probably cause of the "combo" points system

[runic hinge]

I've never tried monk

[dark arrow]

I am guessing my haste is too low? did a gem sim on my gear and its telling me to do all haste/mast

[runic hinge]

How much dps more is it than your current gems

[dark arrow]

+871, not like crazy more

[runic hinge]

Seems like a tiny optimization for a tiny amount of dps and your haste is fine

[dark arrow]

agreed, just nice to maximize where you can for that parse 😉

but I do more M+ so half of my gear is set up for outlaw. don't have enough pieces for sin or sub to have complete optimized gear sets for them.

[runic hinge]

I wouldn't regem for 900 dps for raid if you do more m+ as outlaw

[dark arrow]

yeah wasn't going to. was just simming to see if there was any gem switches for the couple sin specific pieces could give a little boost but not really. just thought it was interesting it was telling me to stack a ton of haste.

last I knew we wanted to stack mast-crit

[upbeat needle]

2x sophic yea?

[quiet oar]

Should sim between Sophic and Wafting

For some people wafting sims better

Or some combination

[normal otter]

Are the HC ulduar Trinkets Any worth to Hunt? Or are they just too Bad to Compete with the current trinkets?

[runic hinge]

I think they’re too low ilvl

Champ track

Even if they were good it’s just below what you can even farm from m+

[normal otter]

But you have a Chance to get one of Them out of the weekly timewalking raid chest on Hero path dont you?

[balmy condor]

That’s hero track of current tier I think

The weekly quests reward current tier loot not legacy

[normal otter]

Ohh okay i missunderstood that before. Sorry

[balmy condor]

But in general the trinkets from ulduar kinda blow in comparison to this patch

Trinkets this tier are bonkers

[normal otter]

Yep

Im wondering how assa will Perform in Season 4.

[royal lantern]

🔮

[runic hinge]

Bonkers in heroic week and then nerfed week 2

I’ve seen this story before

[spice spire]

[normal otter]

Dont be that negative. Assa is still very Fine and also a lot of fun to Play in my Opinion.

[desert inlet]

Season 4 wishlist:
Short

ty for reading

[blazing jewel]

[shrewd night]

Season 4 wishlist:
Guzzles for everyone and return of the guzzle wa

[royal lantern]

guzzle on dn

[clever sapphire]

Season 4 wishlist:
Windy boy

[shell kraken]

What is the range on caustic splatter?

And is it based on your targets position or your position?

[balmy condor]

12 yards, target

[quiet oar]

Thats every rogue spec except sub

[balmy condor]

I also just don't really get why people don't think assa is bonkers still

I mean I kinda do

cause they look at mythic logs

but that's not what blizzard tunes for so idk

kinda weird

assassination is still a top 5 spec in heroic

its like the basics of balancing a game that you never balance for your top end

you always balance to an average or slightly above average

and that's basically just blue/puple parse heroic

its very easy to get into the bubble though

[hollow dirge]

i think puple sounds cuter than purple

[balmy condor]

True

[cerulean depot]

Assassination is good, but it wants pi badly. If you have good pi targets in the raid already, might as well play sub.

[snow sinew]

does that only apply to high-gear or also to me with 447ilvl
because i felt i did way less damage with sub (around m+8-10 range)
bombing with AoE shiv and garrotes and ruptures did the most damage for me, assassination with amplifying and poison bomb build did second most, and sub with ruptures and storm/powder was way below that
boss damage im sure i play sub too slow so i dont wanna compare that yet
overall it was almost 25% less dmg over the dungeon with sub

[final star]

Still 2nd highest boss damage in the raid, even. It's still viable it just suffers the same as every other cd bound spec that if boss dies before your biggest cd comes off you're a sadboi

We love 03.55 kill timers

[ebon hatch]

How do you spread your ruptures in AOE? Weird question I know. I tab target, and its not always working great. Tried slowing the movement speed for nameplates to try clicking on high health moves but thats terrible too. What am I missing?

[final star]

click or mouseover

with colour changing on plates so I know what has debuffs

[lean portal]

spreading ruptures is generally not great to do

[earnest remnant]

[final star]

[keen spruce]

[sweet dawn]

Babe wake up Whispyr uploaded

[keen spruce]

I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists I hate BiS lists

[scenic sky]

It almost makes me think that eh BiS list doesnt like you, so it wont drop.

[ebon hatch]

So what do you do? I try to keep ruptures on 4ish targets

[lean portal]

if the pack lasts rly rly long you can for energy

but it doesnt do much dmg

it should always be on your main target and then deal dmg with caustic + envenom

except for 2-3 targets you can try to get your bleeds everywhere

[ebon hatch]

I think I might have misunderstood the playstyle a wee bit then

[keen spruce]

in a perfect target dummy situation

you'd maintain some number of ruptures for energy

but in practice. stuff is dying at different rates, there's prio mobs that need more attention, your DH is killing off stuff faster than you can ramp

[clever sapphire]

but shmeeps, how do i complain about a bis item being a dps loss for me over a crit/vers pants?

[keen spruce]

so it's often better to just rip CDs into a large target and let spatter do the heavy lifting

spread a few bleeds with IC

then in between CDs you can get a couple more ruptures out

i just wouldn't focus on it too much

you can get lost in the sauce trying to play your ruptures perfectly at the cost of everythign else you're supposed to be doing

[keen spruce]

[ebon hatch]

It sounds familiar 😄

[fringe lily]

Assuming your not playing sudden demise

[keen spruce]

doesn't change with or w/o

the pop on sudden demise does a "fixed" amount of damage

like your bleeds to a certain amount at max duration. there's a specific number of mobs in the dungeon

[clever sapphire]

btw shmeeps, our whole raid was a duck yesterday. We raided as you (well until we trolled on hc fyrakk and died once)

[keen spruce]

[clever sapphire]

the sound effects of the duck are so fun

and the way they hold the weapons

[fallen forge]

new whisp video dropped whos gonna ask him about stat weights first

[clever sapphire]

man people legit drawing better with dots on discord than i could ever by hand or whatever

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-funny-cat-duckling-duck-gif-14598245

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/running-duck-bird-funny-in-hand-gif-11866949352257941606

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-smiling-duck-duck-getting-tickled-gif-17747986920529036543

[oak tangle]

whispyr's video is far too informative than the description implies

[junior yoke]

right

[arctic socket]

I can’t understand the language

But still

Fuck u

Lucky

[quiet oar]

Wdym justo a tiempo

Is clearly Nick of time

[dim mural]

You don't have 2 of those already?

[arctic socket]

I do

[cerulean depot]

This image bothers me. Why only time strike is capitalized?

[arctic socket]

Agili dad

[junior yoke]

hahaha ty guys bye

but*

this is my 2nd nicck

my first one was this

[arctic socket]

Daga

[junior yoke]

= dagger

[arctic socket]

What language is that

[junior yoke]

spanish bro

[arctic socket]

That’s Spanish?

[junior yoke]

yep

[arctic socket]

Huh

[junior yoke]

why

celeridad= haste
versa = versa
cronogolpe = timestrike

[arctic socket]

I didn’t know agility was agilidad

[junior yoke]

hahaahahhaha

agilidad = strength

[arctic socket]

[clever sapphire]

why does every word end with "dad"

do spanish people love their dad so much?

i mean i wont judge

but still tho

[junior yoke]

XDD it's funny because that's true

[arctic socket]

It would be papi for Spanish

[junior yoke]

i'm an engineer not a language invester so

no idea

[arctic socket]

What is uh

Zumbadora?

Also the fact you have a 489 wep

Enchanted with a 2 star enchant is a war crime

[clever sapphire]

wait

[spice spire]

Buzzing

[clever sapphire]

didnt know this goes so long

i didnt wanna be toxic

[junior yoke]

bro it's like

[clever sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/dora-gif-24453540

here dora

[junior yoke]

r2 enchant is around 2k

r3 is 5--6k

no way XD

[spice spire]

It’s fine toxic is their middle Name

[arctic socket]

What

I had a stroke reading that quake

[spice spire]

[junior yoke]

oh... okay

i'll leave tthen

XD

[arctic socket]

Not you

489 Nicholas with a 2 star is a war crime tho

[junior yoke]

well now i'm full bis

guess i'll stop playing

[arctic socket]

That’s how it works

[spice spire]

Real

[junior yoke]

quit or start learning sub?

[arctic socket]

Quit

Who wants to play fated

[spice spire]

Don’t do that. Only villains do that

[junior yoke]

tthat's though

i'll send a screenshot on subchannel

poor guys

[spice spire]

Damn

[arctic socket]

The sub channel stay more on topic about sub

The sin channel on the other hand

https://tenor.com/view/hehe-gif-4402418

[junior yoke]

4% nerf for u

[spice spire]

[arctic socket]

4% kb nerf soon

Get rdy

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/trolling-anime-me-after-a-long-day-gif-25970094

[arctic socket]

Facts

[junior yoke]

where is that writen?

[arctic socket]

In a upcoming blue post

[raven flower]

it has been revealed to me in a vision

[spice spire]

Source: trust me bro

[junior yoke]

I guess sub geting 10% general damage nerf too?

or it's just us

[spice spire]

Buffed actually

[royal lantern]

i mean

isnt that what whisp is doing with simulations

maybe he is giving us lies

sandbagging like crazy

[junior yoke]

I don't believe u

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/oakdice-runescape-gif-18004007

[junior yoke]

xd

[arctic socket]

Mark my words

A sin nerf is coming

[spice spire]

Real answer? No that mf sims every little thing.
Meme answer? Big sim keeping us down

[royal lantern]

i accept the meme

[junior yoke]

should I play dh?

[spice spire]

I’ve muted you for less

[spice spire]

Yes dh busto

[arctic socket]

You muted me over some beans

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/4d3d3d3engaged-toe-beans-kitten-cute-kitten-cute-animals-gif-13574481

beans