And now I’m stealing it
#assassination
keen spruce
keen spruce
Whispyr always has the best ideas
balmy condor
True
keen spruce
i probably just took it from you tbh
balmy condor
And best ideas and the least vowels
Truly 2/2
Stealthi? Seliathan? Foreverguy?
That’s so many vowels
Yuck
I’m single handedly changing the meta game around vowels
It’s 4:17 in the morning why won’t god just let me die
keen spruce
do you consider
spice surge
Vowels are bis
spice surge
Only E though
keen spruce
Only E though
royal lantern
btw guys, i know that collective punishment is officaly considered as a warcrime
but can we still all vote for boomkin S1 set?
its boomkins
keen spruce
yep
spice surge
If you guys are voting for anything but sub s3 im using collective punishments on y'all
balmy condor
"y" a vowel
Not in any English textbook I’ve ever seen
It can function in place of a vowel
But it is not in of itself a vowel
keen spruce
btw guys, i know that collective punishment is officaly considered as a warcrime...
i think the war is being won
royal lantern
normal mist
Remember, other classes will do the same with us xD
normal mist
Neither do I, I had fun in all 3 tiers
near valley
It’s 4:17 in the morning why won’t god just let me die
Only the good die young
royal lantern
we had 2 sets that where more or less just boring %increases and 1that did a bit more
cant do intentionaly fuck shit up there
normal mist
I actually enjoyed sepsis gameplay in s2
static glacier
personally s3 is my favourite
feeling like you wanted to dump shivs in the 40s window after dm was minor gameplay
and I hate any tier set that stretches ur cds out longer
normal mist
I wonder how things would be with the reworked rogue with tier 1 and 2
If anything would change at all
keen spruce
I enjoyed sepsis for a tier
I don't think i'd be
THAT excited to do it again
but i don't like our current gameplay loop
so idk
i'm a minority KB un-enjoyer
balmy condor
I wonder how things would be with the reworked rogue with tier 1 and 2
Sepsis is pretty questionable with current tuning
normal mist
1st tier would just be a loop of what we have now?
quartz storm
How the vote is going so far ?
balmy condor
1st tier would just be a loop of what we have now?
I don’t see major talent changes with any of them
royal lantern
I enjoyed sepsis for a tier
yep
sepsis was ok-ish cus atleast it didnt go full 200% degenerate
sepsis can always do that
keen spruce
How the vote is going so far ?
overwhelmingly s3
royal lantern
we saw the beta rework sims
quartz storm
overwhelmingly s3
Nice
keen spruce
i think people are gonna have a hard time
seperating their thoughts on the rework
with their evaluation of the tier sets
rogue gud now, me pick s3
static glacier
with their evaluation of the tier sets
realistically it's between s2 and 3, s1 was giga passive
royal lantern
most people dont think at all man
its just "spec was strong that patch=good tierset"
keen spruce
i'd be fine with giga passive
royal lantern
realistically it's between s2 and 3, s1 was giga passive
2was braindead passive aswell man 
keen spruce
we have a reworked tree
static glacier
you not a fan of envenom chains?
static glacier
2was braindead passive aswell man <:OMEGAKEKW:829051106361344021>
true, but it has slightly more gameplay than s1, there was a gain in shiving in the window vs outside it
keen spruce
with pooling
keen spruce
true, but it has *slightly* more gameplay than s1, there was a gain in shiving i...
I didn't once
think about when i was shiving in s2
keen spruce
not a single time
flint tusk
wouldn't T29 make sanguine more valueable so likely to actually play a role? or is the number still dummy small?
keen spruce
if i knew which one t29 was
balmy condor
Vault
keen spruce
o
flint tusk
if i knew which one t29 was
balmy condor
This is t31 now
vast shuttle
how do iknow what gear too get
keen spruce
wouldn't T29 make sanguine more valueable so likely to actually play a role? or ...
to answer tho, they said they're going to tune which ever one they bring back for everyone
so hard to say
keen spruce
how do iknow what gear too get
bigger ilvl number = better
balmy condor
how do iknow what gear too get
Is the ilvl higher than what you have on? Probably should get it
flint tusk
oh for sure but tuning will still take in consideration damage splits
vast shuttle
Is the ilvl higher than what you have on? Probably should get it
ah so anything really not any specific peice?
balmy condor
That’s a different question
flint tusk
Season 4:
a talent tree where you can pick what 2p and 4p you want for the content you're doing
now that is cooked
balmy condor
You want 1 on use, either branch or ashes
balmy condor
Nick of time is good, at least one in your offhand
royal lantern
You’re recommending ashes?
yes?
balmy condor
You’re recommending ashes?
Ashes is still the second best trinket
royal lantern
its minimal worse lol
arctic socket
Sus
balmy condor
It’s just worse
royal lantern
like, no biggie
quartz storm
I have nick of time but it’s 489 and my other dagger is 483 so I should use my nick of time on my main hand or offhand too ?
arctic socket
balmy condor
I have nick of time but it’s 489 and my other dagger is 483 so I should use my n...
You would farm a second nick for your offhand
quartz storm
Okay gotchu
vast shuttle
can i follow this?
balmy condor
I wouldn’t follow any bis list
static glacier
imagine if the tier set for s4 was extra talent tree points
balmy condor
And I’m the mfer that made that list
flint tusk
i mean you was cooked when you did it
arctic socket
And I’m the mfer that made that list
I used your list to get the first mythic pips trinket
flint tusk
turned into a right content fiend
balmy condor
Forced to make bis lists to bait noobs into clicking on the guide when they hammer “10.2 assassination rogue gear” into Google
I’m both the problem and the solution
Terrible
keen spruce
Forced to make bis lists to bait noobs into clicking on the guide when they hamm...
I have typed "[insert patch or expansion] assassination rogue gear" into google
many times
over the years
or "assassination rogue stats"
balmy condor
They feed us poison so we buy their cures
Except it’s me feeding people bis lists cause I’m required to put them into my guide
And then I sell the cure of telling you in the same guide that you’re an idiot for using the list
keen spruce
I love getting traded free high ilvl loot early season in m+ pugs
cuz it's not their "bis"
midnight atlas
bis lists are good, i sold a cloth belt for 100k because a warlock said its his bis
whole mason
they should do mix and match
balmy condor
bis lists are good, i sold a cloth belt for 100k because a warlock said its his ...
I would expect no smarter from a warlock
whole mason
tier A's 2pc+tier B's 4pc
midnight atlas
a gnome also
quartz storm
Affliction or not ? 😂
keen spruce
a gnome also
gnome is bis
midnight atlas
i dont remember he was low on dps because he was missing his bis belt
arctic socket
Did he get a lot of dps from it
midnight atlas
he left after 
balmy condor
Probably a belts worth
arctic socket
Sounds like one of those boomers
arctic socket
Whispyr the only bis belt is t3 tmog
balmy condor
The only bis belt is my dads
arctic socket
Wish I could use that damage increasment in game holy fuck
fringe lily
The only bis belt is my dads
Oof
arctic socket
I haven’t read the new post fully but the set that wins tmog wise, will it be exactly the same or will they tweak the appearance?
balmy condor
The same
balmy condor
It’s just mix and match your favorite from the expansion
Your favorite mog and your favorite effect
And blizzard will do the honor of smashing them together
keen spruce
I still think it's crazzy
balmy condor
They’re all working on 11.0
keen spruce
that they had 4 incarnates
and instead of 4 raid tiers
we get 3 raid tiers, but one of them doesn't even have an incarnate boss
and dooky fart fated
fringe lily
Do u not think well get a recolour
balmy condor
Well 2 died, 1 is friend, 1 is next expac evil darkness void bad person
balmy condor
Do u not think well get a recolour
Nah
arctic socket
Do u not think well get a recolour
No
keen spruce
friend one is just jaina surrogate
iridikron seems to have been planned as a raid boss
since yknow
arctic socket
Wonder how soon it is until blizzard kills off jaina
keen spruce
he fking parries every goddamn thing
arctic socket
Shoulda been jaina instead of that one king
balmy condor
iridikron seems to have been planned as a raid boss
Yeah for next expac
keen spruce
ice friend dragon lady would have been a cool raid boss
vague sun
cant kill off female characters as the coomers would unsub
icy acorn
The emotional and mental damage increase from dads belt
still waiting for nerfs
balmy condor
cant kill off female characters as the coomers would unsub
I’m inspired by your willingness to post cringe like that
keen spruce
earth tier woulda made sense with the mole people downstairs
keen spruce
How do y’all feel about the Ksm mounts
i think they're hot dogshit compared to the SL ones
arctic socket
Dragons
icy acorn
they cant fly = not used
arctic socket
Imagine being in a expac called dragon flight then getting some weird dumb lookin lizards
balmy condor
I only know that the mythic mount from sarkareth was like deathwing or something
vague sun
S2 KSM mount was kinda good imo
vague sun
but if they made the S2 mount a dragon with similar design oooooo man
arctic socket
Yeah
royal lantern
I only know that the mythic mount from sarkareth was like deathwing or something
mate
its the first boss
lol
icy acorn
i really like the mythic mount from fyrakk
arctic socket
The Ksm mounts shoulda been dragon riding mounts
icy acorn
that tindral owl bird thing
balmy condor
mate
its the first boss
First boss is also deathwing
arctic socket
Or like appearances to the dragons we got
royal lantern
that tindral owl bird thing
when you get it, you need to use it in front of random druids
arctic socket
Blue deathwing mount was pretty sick
icy acorn
when you get it, you need to use it in front of random druids
i first have to get through tindral
sadge
arctic socket
The Tindral owl is pretty sick
balmy condor
Black dragon in big metal plates? As you deal damage the plates fall off one by one?
Sounds like deathwing
royal lantern
Black dragon in big metal plates? As you deal damage the plates fall off one by ...
ye, cus shes a prototype for his armor
keen spruce
he be missin a lot of sleep
arctic socket
ye, cus shes a prototype for his armor
Rly?
icy acorn
does he even know what sleep is
arctic socket
I don’t remember see goblins go ham on that boss
keen spruce
ye, cus shes a prototype for his armor
i'm gonna prototype my balls on your forehead
balmy condor
ye, cus shes a prototype for his armor
Bro knows the dragons pronouns bruh
royal lantern
ofc not
icy acorn
lore andys
balmy condor
I don’t even know what the name of that boss was anymore
royal lantern
you use RH, i dont expect you to pay attention to anything
keen spruce
deathwing
arctic socket
Purple deathwing
icy acorn
neltharion
balmy condor
Prototype deathwing
keen spruce
balmy condor
im gonna try to nap
Wish I could
royal lantern
im gonna try to nap
balmy condor
Yes
royal lantern
yes
icy acorn
nice
keen spruce
have you tried
balmy condor
Cringe
royal lantern
Whisp, there was a boomkin in my weekly key yesterday named Lynux
balmy condor
like this?
Almost yeah
balmy condor
Whisp, there was a boomkin in my weekly key yesterday named Lynux
Cringe
royal lantern
is there something you dont know about your cats?
balmy condor
My cat is Linux
royal lantern
ik
icy acorn
boomkin hate
royal lantern
always based
icy acorn
modern form of racism
balmy condor
boomkin hate
Best boomkin is a dead boomkin
icy acorn
specsism?
icy acorn
what do you expect from a #2 raid guild
royal lantern
cus VENTHYR MOST DMG MUST PLAY
icy acorn
ECHO NUMBA 1 !!!!!1111!!
balmy condor
what do you expect from a #2 raid guild
#1 rogues though
icy acorn
also true
balmy condor
Exile and jpc are based and nice people
limber lion
It's true
icy acorn
i still dont know how jpc is working with his keybinds
literally 2 rows of the same icons
royal lantern
its keybinds
icy acorn
for every spec
royal lantern
thats personal shit
balmy condor
He just macros different icons
limber lion
literally 2 rows of the same icons
He just has everything macro'd, the icons don't do jack
earnest remnant
before i started raiding
icy acorn
i mean yeah he macros them and knows what is where
quartz storm
Which set is ahead ?
limber lion
As anyone should
icy acorn
but from an outsiders perspective its really weird
quartz storm
With the vote
limber lion
A lot of people hide their action bars entirely
balmy condor
Which set is ahead ?
Season 3 by a mile
icy acorn
i also only recently installed elvui and only show 1 bar
limber lion
Dummies
icy acorn
i used to have a horrid UI
limber lion
S2 >
icy acorn
like selfmade Weakauras and shit
quartz storm
Season 3 by a mile
Thanks a lot
balmy condor
like selfmade Weakauras and shit
I have to go find my beyblade UI
icy acorn
my UI as assa literally looked like im behind bars
because i made 4 big icons for the DM rotation
and didnt even put them together but left like 1cm of nothingness inbetween
errant willow
So what are we voting for?
limber lion
Whatever you want
icy acorn
whatever you like (dont vote s1)
balmy condor
I couldn’t find it in 20 seconds it’s doomed
subtle tundra
s2 can go fuck itself
royal lantern
I have to go find my beyblade UI
errant willow
Aren’t we gonna suffer in AoE without S3?
stray mural
What we voting for lads
errant willow
CT behind a talent is sad
subtle tundra
😠
limber lion
CT behind a talent is sad
You're a very small minority there currently
CT baseline made sense previously but not anymore with Spatter and KB and 4p and whatever
errant willow
Exactly, and there we would lose ST which is not great due to the nerfs
ember mural
https://tenor.com/view/beyblade-darius-jonathan-anime-gif-18632472
Core memory unlocked (let it rip)
balmy condor
Exactly, and there we would lose ST which is not great due to the nerfs
Cry about it I guess
balmy condor
Mplussers will legit bitch about anything
Specs aoe sucks
Then it’s good
Oh the single target isn’t good now
Then both are good
Oh but the ramp is too long
Mobs are dying
bright cipher
👀 Hey, i am grabbing the results for tiersets and i don't want to vote in a random tier and troll your pool so
normal mist
Whispyr what time is it there in the other side of the world?
royal lantern
m+ andys swapping bettwen "aoe is the only thing that matters" and "st is the only thing that matters" more often then i swap my underwear
spice spire
bright cipher
so what should i vote for
balmy condor
so what should i vote for
Whatever you feel like
royal lantern
s3 or s2 tbh
bright cipher
to note: my only interest is to check the vote statistics
balmy condor
Whispyr what time is it there in the other side of the world?
5:15 am
balmy condor
to note: my only interest is to check the vote statistics
S3 is way ahead atm
So
Wouldn’t influence much if you slapped another on there
bright cipher
okie
errant willow
Don’t get me wrong @balmy condor the spec is fine, I have been enjoying it quite a lot, I just find it weird in fort weeks we don’t take CT in some dungs
bright cipher
are you going to play fated whispyr?
balmy condor
Don’t get me wrong <@167090536602140682> the spec is fine, I have been enjoying ...
We do
You can
The only reason we don’t take CT is because the meta gamer degenerates decided that the only thing that exists in the game is single target
So they dropped CT
subtle tundra
people really be thinking swapping talents is bricking their dps or whatever
when tank pulling properly is way more important than any choice
limber lion
I legit play CT in every dungeon that I do
balmy condor
are you going to play fated whispyr?
Fuck no I’m offended you’d even ask
limber lion
Because I don't push 30's
icy acorn
Fuck no I’m offended you’d even ask
what are you even going to play during that time then
limber lion
Bleedy boys > cringe cleave boys
steel ridge
maplestory
limber lion
In 20's
icy acorn
and more importantly
balmy condor
what are you even going to play during that time then
Legitimately anything else lmao
icy acorn
who is going to give us sin advice
bright cipher
Fuck no I’m offended you’d even ask
icy acorn
if not you
balmy condor
Still me
subtle tundra
still him
icy acorn
balmy condor
Because it’s a throwaway patch no one gives a shit about, with tier sets we’ve already theorycrafted, raids that have already been cleared, and dungeons that suck just as much ass as the rest of them
icy acorn
wouldnt assa be super good in some raid encounters now just because of caustic
balmy condor
You’re higher than the balloon I let go of in 3rd grade if you think fated is going to have some insano gameplay shift that I can’t put into a guide without pouring hundreds of hours into reclearing the same shit again
balmy condor
wouldnt assa be super good in some raid encounters now just because of caustic
Okay and?
royal lantern
you NEED to play the patch too sim if cowl+eranog is a dps gain man
icy acorn
just sayin
balmy condor
Having aoe is better than not having aoe yes
subtle tundra
oh the guzzler will be back
icy acorn
how is that possible
subtle tundra
can't wait to GUZZLE
spice surge
10.2 assa on sark 
balmy condor
Can’t wait for all the season 1 questions all over again
spice spire
Oh no
spice surge
2 min 50% haste with adds you can spatter
balmy condor
“Grieftorch sims worse for me but what if 6 people die 35 seconds apart during a waning crescent during a solar eclipse”
gaunt moat
At least if there's raszagath again, we can actually deal with the add phase
balmy condor
Get ready for fated log reviews
Ain’t no way
spice spire
Get ready for fated log reviews
I’ll literally ban on the spot
fallen forge
ember mural
I’ll literally ban on the spot
Gonna put my highest ilvl dagger in the OH 😤
balmy condor
Bro we got apps in 10.0 that showed up with fated logs
Easiest fucking declines we’ve ever had
“Oh you linked fated logs in your app? Sorry we’re not recruiting your class anymore actually”
spice surge
I’ll literally ban on the spot
royal lantern
Bro we got apps in 10.0 that showed up with fated logs
bro, trust me bro
im a sick warlock bro, look at my fated demolock logs bro im insane bro
balmy condor
bro, trust me bro
im a sick warlock bro, look at my fated demolock logs bro im ...
Had a 1/9 mythic guy app with heroic logs and when we declined he said
so if someone dont have a background for u to look they still cant be trial?
He’s been in 7 different guilds since November
With fated logs
We get like 5x as many of those insano apps
royal lantern
yeha idk
all guild applications have their weird "something you wanna ask????" thing that i always leave empty
can drop a "can give fated logs if you want them?" in there or smth like that
shrewd crescent
any tips on how to do the most trash damage i tyrannical weeks?
vestal wren
all guild applications have their weird "something you wanna ask????" thing that...
can get a lot worse
royal lantern
hard in most groups cus trash explodes
vestal wren
we had somone who got boosted through normal and killed 2 bosses in heroic
apply to raid on the mythic roaster
royal lantern
you do mythic now?
vestal wren
wdym
royal lantern
i thought you dud Like, heroic and a couple bosses
vestal wren
i always raid mthic, my guild is just slow as hell because more casual oriented
royal lantern
mythic
icy acorn
whats even you char name
i need to know whom to stalk
vestal wren
(so we only raid 5h/week)
royal lantern
whats even you char name
i need to know whom to stalk
take a gues
vestal wren
whats even you char name
i need to know whom to stalk
its a question mark
vestal wren
i never shared my char, simply because i don't think it brings much value to most discussions
royal lantern
it doesnt most of the time
vestal wren
oh yes
vestal wren
it doesnt most of the time
only if you want to look down at others
i remember discussion in which people made this argument
royal lantern
only if you want to look down at others
yep
viscid spear
Guys I rolled a die and voted for a random tier bonus
vestal wren
"i am rank <top X> in r.io, so whatever you say is irrelevant, even if your arguments are logical and sound"
^ remember this very well in bfa
plucky canopy
I mean it mostly just leads to people be like "how can I trust this guy, who parsed this or that" or "you are not in a top 10 guild? How can I trust you?" Bullshit
vestal wren
but even then, what would change
if you are not at least ahead of the person arguing in progression, it does not matter
royal lantern
^ remember this very well in bfa
bfa???? thats happening rn
can i trust the guide? "insert guy on r.io or some dude that got ce" played 2 different talents!!!
vestal wren
i think being for 6+ years the person who defines how subtlety plays is more valuable
than "hey i killd this boss faster"
tho this aside, i think having a discussion based on logic is better
if you don't agree with me, just bring it up
vast shuttle
anyone who can send me a good pve build
vestal wren
and we can find out together whos right
earnest remnant
Dont have to be a good player to be a good "coach" or be very knowledgeable about the class
vestal wren
and we can find out together whos right
like we had multiple discussions, we then went to do a sim and found out something was better or worse
i like this dynamic more ^^
vast shuttle
is this good??
flint tusk
...
vast shuttle
how tf should iknow bro iv never pve
flint tusk
vestal wren
seems fine
flint tusk
Ilvl > all
vestal wren
but best is always to sim
you initially, want to go for item level
esp. on assassination with stats being fairly close in value, so a spread of stats is actually good
vast shuttle
so it isntr like pvp where i only want vers and mastery i can just go fot the best ilvl stats dosent matter as much on the gear?
vestal wren
outlaw and subtlety both like more specific stats
royal lantern
as assa, mostly yes
vestal wren
if you don't have the gear, the #tc-research channel has text files pinned you can copy/paste to top gear
and then select the combinations you want to compare
shrewd crescent
is the sudden demise skill talent better for lower keys?
vast shuttle
iam playing with like pvp gear i will just take anything thats better and try too get the items i sended
normal mist
For a second I thought merek was in the wrong channel
sweet dawn
is the sudden demise skill talent better for lower keys?
ye
normal mist
Merek there are 2 good items you can purposely farm: the dagger from fall dungeon and the trinket from everbloom
Everything else will come naturally
plucky canopy
tho this aside, i think having a discussion based on logic is better
Absolutely, still amazed how some of u can go through all this nonsense every tier
earnest remnant
arguing with stuborn people is my passion
plucky canopy
Has to be I guess 😅
vast shuttle
For a second I thought merek was in the wrong channel
XD
vast shuttle
Merek there are 2 good items you can purposely farm: the dagger from fall dungeo...
got the trinket first try buddy
normal mist
Veteran?
normal mist
Nice try buddy
vast shuttle
idk really how to get into bigger keys too be honest done some 14+ keys
normal mist
Ilvl + m+ rating
vast shuttle
what m+ has the best gear?
vast shuttle
oh my fault i ment ilvl
vast shuttle
ah ok
normal mist
18+ for vault
vast shuttle
but have am i supposed to get better rating if nobody wants me in like 17+ and i cant even get good gear cause i cant get better keys???
oblique pendant
isn't 16 for vault?
oblique pendant
man i was so wrong then
oblique pendant
u can upgrade hero to 483 right?
oblique pendant
ohh okay that makes much more sense
fringe lily
but have am i supposed to get better rating if nobody wants me in like 17+ and i...
Your own key to start with
vast shuttle
why does nobody fking want me in 17+ its not like its hard or anything
normal mist
Rating and gear
vast shuttle
i will max my key its lvl 2 only
vestal wren
you need to have higher score to play decently high keys
but in order to get higher score you need to play decently high keys
vast shuttle
if i max my key people will take me in more right?
cause i dont want too grind for veteran egar
gear
fringe lily
Once you get your key up, it'll be high level from then on out each week. Not like you need to grind out from +2 every week
subtle tundra
You clearly haven't done m+ before ofc no one will want to take you
vestal wren
the easy way to break out of the low r.io prison is to play with guild or make your own keys
both will remove the dependency
vast shuttle
You clearly haven't done m+ before ofc no one will want to take you
Real
oblique pendant
im always staring with my keys and if i too high im just lowering it to acceptable level
and i grind that way until i get decent rio/ilvl
normal mist
A good way to gain rating as a fresh pver is too do all the dungeons this week before reset
But you're American right?
real stirrup
so what is everybody choosing with the new spec bonus?
vestal wren
just do it like i do
get invited by guildies to 20+ keys
be #1 on the overall while guildies wonder why r.io score is slo low
(to be fair, if you are not pushing super high keys, just have fun. usually most fun is just doing some 18-22 with guild given that you don't need to care as much about anyone being good)
normal mist
Yes
But be sure you're not using catalyst on weaker PvE items than your pvp set items
vast shuttle
i see
vast shuttle
But be sure you're not using catalyst on weaker PvE items than your pvp set item...
catalystcan give 489?
normal mist
If the item you put there is 489 to start with
Which means a mythic raid item or 18+ vault item
Everything we told you over on the pvp channel about "you don't care about the item ilevel, just the pvp ilvl component in the bottom of the items description", well now you do
clever sapphire
u can upgrade hero to 483 right?
!up
prisma monolithBOT
stray mural
I’ve reached a new level of dejection with M+ lately. I did a 20 AD last night, 480 ilvl fairly optimized, and got destroyed by an enhancement shaman. I only managed 163m overall doing almost every KB window perfectly.
Got called a carry. Didn’t feel good.
shut flicker
Does anyone know how far away caustic spatter will spread to enemies?
shut flicker
Thanks!
raven flower
shut flicker
I tried looking on wowhead and couldn't find anything. So y'all are super helpful! Thanks!
shy pecan
Got called a carry. Didn’t feel good.
Were things dying so fast that you barely got any ticks of KB off?
shut flicker
But at least its fun(imo)! I've had a blast with all 3 rogue specs this patch, tbh.
But Sin has been my favorite
hallow token
Don't forget to go vote for how our season 4 set should look, and which season's set bonuses we should have.
arctic socket
The guild I raided with started giving a ret my pi, so I have recently been playing sub can say the playstyle feels nice
The shadow blade change took me a lil while to get used to
spice spire
PI the Ret
shut flicker
Sub in raid is suuuper fun. Sin is right behind that. Outlaw is lame
Sin in M+ is suuuuper fun. Outlaw is right behind that. Sub is lame
Thats how it is for me at least
arctic socket
Im looking for a new guild to go too
slim pebble
servers up?
arctic socket
I have quit raiding atm
spice spire
waxen oyster
i mean sin feels fine still
waxen oyster
i just dont like pugging keys as it because tanks do pepega pulls
clever sapphire
eh you adjust to it
arctic socket
Just play cleave build on keys if you get called a carry link boss damage
clever sapphire
and also at like 22+ tanks kinda do the same pulls
shut flicker
I have troubles keeping up with people on Tyran weeks as Sin. Fortified feels decent though.
spice spire
Fuck that was a weeb reference 
arctic socket
Then call me a bozo
spice spire
Then call me a bozo
Say less
arctic socket
Fuck that was a weeb reference <a:ohno:1116007383802597497>
How
waxen oyster
yeah but then i just play outlaw in pug keys and send everything when its up
clever sapphire
Fuck that was a weeb reference <a:ohno:1116007383802597497>
but its dragonball, so its fine
waxen oyster
thorn fjord
Should i roll OL on vault today to try for a Thorncaller?
shy pecan
Fuck that was a weeb reference <a:ohno:1116007383802597497>
Weeb
arctic socket
You don’t send everything as sin?
spice spire
yeah but then i just play outlaw in pug keys and send everything when its up
Blud what are you sending
arctic socket
Blud what are you sending
Blade flurry
spice spire
Adrenaline rush my goat 
waxen oyster
yeah you dont send anything
clever sapphire
Should i roll OL on vault today to try for a Thorncaller?
1: do you play outlaw?
2: do you have 489 timestrike daggers already?
thorn fjord
Yes, No
snow sinew
full send 6CP SnD
arctic socket
full send 6CP SnD
Y’all press SnD?
spice spire
Outlaw pov
thorn fjord
I hate that we cant just have both OL and the Dagger specs work at the same time
clever sapphire
cause you can in theory get the ol weapon
but you cant get 489 dagger outside vault
arctic socket
Outlaw cpm is insane
thorn fjord
but you cant get 489 dagger outside vault
yeah i know
But I know for sure i wont get that dagger
snow sinew
Y’all press SnD?
once per dungeon
spice spire
Servers apparently up btw
thorn fjord
HELL YEAH BROTHER
waxen oyster
doesnt vault not open yet
thorn fjord
Have a beautiful day beautiful @spice spire
spice spire
No man
spice spire
doesnt vault not open yet
I’ve seen vaults so imma assume they’re there
quartz storm
Oh it’s reset day on NA server
shy pecan
I’ve seen vaults so imma assume they’re there
Are you playing again? 🤔
spice spire
Are you playing again? 🤔
Lol, lmao even
shy pecan
Lol, lmao even
Same
slim pebble
Is it cata or craft week
arctic socket
Open it as ol
arctic socket
@spice spire can we raid together?
shy pecan
waxen oyster
i dont have raid rn vault
spice spire
<@226508540746006528> can we raid together?
You NA?
arctic socket
Mhm
waxen oyster
so cant even get mythic thorncaller
spice spire
Yeah sure man
thorn fjord
This is true... wit fated alot of us can actually raid together
spice spire
See you in WW
waxen oyster
extend prison sucks
spice spire
War within
thorn fjord
War Within baby
waxen oyster
windwanker?
arctic socket
This is true... wit fated alot of us can actually raid together
Wanna make a raid with just all rogues from this discord?
Community event
thorn fjord
WRONG FUCKING DAGGER BRO
shy pecan
You, me, doz create a guild
spice spire
WRONG FUCKING DAGGER BRO
arctic socket
@spice spire log reviews everyone
spice spire
You, me, doz create a guild
High key down.
waxen oyster
yeah lmao the atal one
spice spire
<@226508540746006528> log reviews everyone
I did previously
arctic socket
Wanna do one?
shy pecan
I'll GM, I can find suckers
spice spire
arctic socket
Is there a guild recruitment thingy here
arctic socket
F
spice spire
Do recommend the NA recruitment discord
spice spire
Uh I left it let me see if I can find it again
thorn fjord
yay for a socket today -___-
shy pecan
spice spire
DM’d like a chump tho
arctic socket
now do I try and get into a mythic guild or just a aotc grp
Also what is a thorn caller
The fist wep?
waxen oyster
the reason if you join a pug on council theres 5 dhs
thorn fjord
The fist wep?
yeah
static glacier
“Oh you linked fated logs in your app? Sorry we’re not recruiting your class any...
as someone who didn't play fated season at all, was it cus affix pad was a thing?
waxen oyster
as someone who didn't play fated season at all, was it cus affix pad was a thing...
there was an affix that gave you a massive damage amp
onlt on certain weeks
royal lantern
a thing? it was the only thing people did cus bossess just died anyway
and where giga nerfed
waxen oyster
it also spawned infinite adds and it was an outlaw season
royal lantern
that was fated
strange python
is it dawn of infinit or fall the dagger drop?
waxen oyster
so you just cried with your target cap
royal lantern
so you just cried with your target cap
as if that mattered
the warlock just exploded them solo anyway
waxen oyster
or bear tank
waxen oyster
bear with xymox cache
spice spire
It was also not a good evaluation of prog
thorn fjord
Should i take the dagger for the .4 or just take a socket for M+ spec? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jVDBAmn9LjeP8kP9Fp39RP
royal lantern
^
thorn fjord
Cant decide
spice spire
I was purple parsing on my rat ass arms warrior
royal lantern
fated bosses where giga trivial
like
mythic bosses you could brainless yolo with a halfassed comp
didnt matter
3min->dead
only 2-3 needed some form of effort
waxen oyster
some people still backed out of endbosses
outside of mote weeks
there was one affix that made lihuvim more annoying
than he was in s3
royal lantern
and fated gave blizzard the bullshit idea of dungeon rotations
so it even managed too do lasting dmg
waxen oyster
it is weird to have heros path for like every expac
gusty mirage
@spice spire @royal lantern IT HAPPENED
spice spire
<@226508540746006528> <@346293680883236864> IT HAPPENED
It finally ducking happened
Prog almost over let’s go
royal lantern
<@226508540746006528> <@346293680883236864> IT HAPPENED
I CALLED IT YESTERDAY
it worked
thorn fjord
<@226508540746006528> <@346293680883236864> IT HAPPENED
gratz big boy
viscid spear
<@226508540746006528> <@346293680883236864> IT HAPPENED
Man you got that drop in the nick of time.
thorn fjord
Man you got that drop *in the nick of time*.
huehuehuehuehue
spice spire
Banned
viscid spear
The belt name next to it just adds to the whole thing.
gusty mirage
so much for swapping to 2xBSL
stable field
So which set everyone votting? ;>
shy pecan
<@226508540746006528> <@346293680883236864> IT HAPPENED
Grats yo
thorn fjord
So which set everyone votting? ;>
S3 across the board tbh
spice spire
I’m a s2 enjoyer
shy pecan
So augury right?
spice surge
So which set everyone votting? ;>
I'd like s2 2p and s3 4p, but it doesnt look like we get to mix so idk 
past forum
What spec would be most broken with 2p x3?
I know there are only 5 slots, just musing
broken ibex
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
thorn fjord
Sub and OL are no brainers as far as tier selection
cursive frost
signet brand any good in m+?
spice surge
Generally no, its fairly awful
spice surge
The trinket is only good at high stacks of it, since a max stacked on does almost 16x the damage of a non-stacked one
gaunt moat
What if i get both Brand and Ashes in the same vault tomorrow 
spice surge
So for it to be good in m+ you need to do cheesy things to remain in combat to keep the stacks, and it only works in certain dungeons
So not really worth bothering with
vast shuttle
@normal mist the gear peices u get from the catalyst is shit lol
normal mist
I'd advise you on reading further information
The tier pieces you get ain't new, you're just converting the pieces you have into tier. If you put a low ilevel item into the catalyst, it will come out as a low ilvl tier piece
strange python
which poison for M+?
vast shuttle
i see, bro pve is too advanced fr
spice spire
Amplifying deadly and whatever non lethal you think usually mind numbing
midnight atlas
dont put crippling during sanguine
quiet oar
<@226508540746006528> <@346293680883236864> IT HAPPENED
So you take the Augury right?
normal mist
i see, bro pve is too advanced fr
It's not, you just haven't really looked into it
shell kraken
!dagger
prisma monolithBOT
neat plank
I need to do 2 more +20 for vault this week but I can't bring myself to do it.. ass is so bad in keys I feel like I'm embarrassing myself
shrewd crescent
when talented to crimson tempest, how does the prio between it and envenom work?
arctic socket
When there’s a lot of targets press ct
When there isn’t a lot of targets press envenom
Or just don’t use ct to begin with
spice spire
when talented to crimson tempest, how does the prio between it and envenom work?
Above 4 maintain CT (with 4p) otherwise envenom.
Maintain the dot, don’t spam
shrewd crescent
i see ty
keen breach
Hey guys, what's is the best tier set bonus for assassination ?
arctic socket
That doesn’t invoke cT
spice spire
Thing is there might or might not be
If you’re omega pulling the dungeon CT fucks with the lights on
If not
Sux
spice spire
Hey guys, what's is the best tier set bonus for assassination ?
Don’t follow numerical follow which one you like the best
thorn fjord
If you’re omega pulling the dungeon CT fucks with the lights on
Socks on too?
spice spire
They’re supposed to tune accordingly
spice spire
Why would you fuck with the lights on
Iykyk
keen breach
What will you vote 1,2 or 3 season's set bonus tier ?
arctic socket
They’re supposed to tune accordingly
Lmao like that’s actually gonna happen
shrewd crescent
Above 4 maintain CT (with 4p) otherwise envenom.
and during kingsbane, envenom takes prio?
arctic socket
“Tuned accordingly”
thorn fjord
Why would you fuck with the lights on
Gotta make eye contact the entire time breh
spice spire
I have faith
spice spire
and during kingsbane, envenom takes prio?
Nah just slap CT before
Again it’s maintain not to spam
keen breach
Yeah, but I'm here for knowledge
spice spire
But that’s also over 4
arctic socket
Gotta make eye contact the entire time breh
If you’re banging and can keep eye contact the entire time you’re doing something wrong lmfao
spice spire
The enjoyment is subjective
thorn fjord
Yeah, but I'm here for knowledge
Came to the wrong place bro we’re memeing out here
arctic socket
Can’t really say which tier is best atm
spice spire
Simps but you know
thorn fjord
If you’re banging and can keep eye contact the entire time you’re doing somethin...
Nah even when you’re splacking it from behind you gotta maneuver your head so you can still make the eye contact
spice spire
Y’all wilding rn
thorn fjord
I voted s3 for all the specs
arctic socket
Nah even when you’re splacking it from behind you gotta maneuver your head so yo...
Naw
thorn fjord
And voted the worst tiers for all other classes
keen breach
Season 2 is bugged
arctic socket
Rogue s2 hit pretty hard in m+
spice spire
Yeah that’s why I voted for it
thorn fjord
S2 survival tier doesn’t even work for them now lolol
spice spire
Plus the idea of Ct doing sudden demise (doubtful) gives me an anticiperection
thorn fjord
That’s a fun word
spice spire
Yw for that one
arctic socket
That word is to big for alot of people in here
spice spire
If I speak I’ll be banned for 6 months
arctic socket
stray mural
Were things dying so fast that you barely got any ticks of KB off?
This may have been the reason why
spice spire
Stay mad
arctic socket
Rolling outlaw solves a lot of problems
spice spire
Doesn’t fix the self esteem tho
arctic socket
Well I guess that’s the best tier
spice spire
Yeah envenom chaining doesn’t exactly get the juices going
arctic socket
S3 4p slapped on a s2 set
shy pecan
Well you did the same joke
strange python
how can i manage my energy in M+?
arctic socket
https://tenor.com/view/funny-very-sloth-slow-gif-15217258118848753873
Why is there dh pictures in assassination channel?
arctic socket
how can i manage my energy in M+?
218% haste
shy pecan
This may have been the reason why
I mean, it's not the only reason, but it can definitely affect your overall. But then again, that probably doesn't matter as much on tyrannical, especially if you're timing the key
shy pecan
Why is there dh pictures in assassination channel?
Instead of asking why, ask "Why not?" 🤔
arctic socket
Dh players are Weidos
arctic socket
how can i manage my energy in M+?
Are you struggling in aoe or st? With energy
spice spire
My goat is there
shy pecan
You're not going to be hitting a button every GCD, namely out of CDs
thorn fjord
Yeah envenom chaining doesn’t exactly get the juices going
shits weak
arctic socket
With rupture spreading in aoe that’s like giga energy
arctic socket
On st depending on your build it might just be cooked lmao
spice spire
Holy chat is turning around
arctic socket
With ic you should always have garrote / rupture up
royal lantern
Back to back factual statements
dogs>cats
arctic socket
You’re playing a spec without thistle tea?
spice spire
Amen
stiff vale
is there a specific timeframe in the opener that I want PI, such as right as I use deathmark? Or does it really matter?
spice spire
is there a specific timeframe in the opener that I want PI, such as right as I u...
Death mark ideal
stiff vale
ty 
arctic socket
You want to get pi when you press KB
upbeat needle
guessing season 2 is going to win casue its good in keys?
arctic socket
Yes
spice spire
guessing season 2 is going to win casue its good in keys?
Rn 3 is winning by a lot
Nah whispyr and I had this back and forth with PI timings
Anything off from dm is a loss
And I tried every single tech
strange python
do u have a build for M+
spice spire
There’s like 60
junior yoke
That’s lower on ST, but stronger in aoe
arctic socket
Nah whispyr and I had this back and forth with PI timings
You’re wrong then
spice spire
??
spice spire
I was the KB person
arctic socket
Like
rotund oak
There’s like 60
Its reasonable to vote a tierset whispyr hates in order to make him hate me even more,right? 😅
spice spire
Data states otherwise.
We tried to goon it
spice spire
Its reasonable to vote a tierset whispyr hates in order to make him hate me even...
He ain’t even playing fated
vestal wren
just wait
spice spire
arctic socket
Wanna do my +17 fyrakk?
royal lantern
only on fortified
the adds have more hp, but healing interacts weird, so healers can still top them fast
spice spire
Raz with storming and roots
gusty mirage
nah you always have whispyr
spice spire
gusty mirage
he's a giant bitch
dark crag
Endboss rush
spice spire
True
spice spire
Damn that’s a lotta bitches
gusty mirage
@spice spire did you know if you stopped eating 73k avocado toasts a year you could buy a house with that money?
snow sinew
source?
gusty mirage
I mathed it out
according to https://time.com/4861608/avocado-toast-cost-spending-americans-square/ the average price of avocado toast is $6.78
and the average home price in the Q2 of 2023 was $495,100 in the US
this of course doesn't include closing costs
so you might wanna stop eating 74k avocado toasts to be safe
snow sinew
checks out, thanks
arctic socket
Shower avocado toast? New meta
gusty mirage
avocado toast doesn't even sound good
spice spire
<@226508540746006528> did you know if you stopped eating 73k avocado toasts a ye...
I will not stop buying 20 avocado toasts a day
Ty tho
gusty mirage
I will not stop buying 20 avocado toasts a day
it's actually 200 a day
arctic socket
Sounds like something quake would enjoy
spice spire
Oh quick maffs
arctic socket
I wanna know who is paying around that much for toast