assassination

[neon halo]

that answers that

[lean portal]

20% or smthing

is should be around this

[neon halo]

thanks mate, im sitting on 42% crit so ill sac some of that for haste

[lean portal]

i think you should

but sim knows better than me

[neon halo]

ah if i gear compare sim for haste its giving me hsate as prio

[chilly bear]

Hey, im plaiyn assa for a while now, but im slacking since the new changes of the recent patches, feels like im missing out a lot of dmg after the opener. Im starvin energy, is there a way to play around that or is it just me pooling wrong?

[balmy condor]

starving is normal

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[blazing jewel]

Okay

[balmy condor]

[blazing jewel]

[feral mason]

im not forever single im just pooling hoes 💪

[keen spruce]

I'm pooling jobs

need to save energy for employment windows

[blazing jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/momentum-thanduchoa-mbr-chuyengiamkt-chuyengiamarketingonline-gif-21471629

This is our pool

[feral mason]

[blazing jewel]

[feral mason]

Materials lecture putting me to sleep

would rather buy another kazzak boost than sit through this shit

Wiped 4x on council, 5x on nymue, 7x on tindral and 5x on fyrakk

3.5h long boost

[blazing jewel]

On heroic?

[jade abyss]

Sounds like good quality

[feral mason]

yes

[keen spruce]

who did you buy it from

[blazing jewel]

That’s impressive

[final star]

Lulusia looking ass

[feral mason]

sylv

regardless i got most of my money back and a rageheart from it on my pala

so it was worth

[keen spruce]

how do you even wipe on heroic nymue

[feral mason]

They were trying to boost 15 people

[keen spruce]

did they have like 10 raiders 20 buyers

ah ye

[feral mason]

couldnt heal the flowers ig

no clue

[keen spruce]

the huberus

[feral mason]

Couldnt split either because it was unsaved

buncha dummies

gotta gear my veng now aswell, hope i get lucky enough to get another rageheart

push group wants me to play vengeance in forti weeks

[keen spruce]

only on fort weeks?

[feral mason]

i mean on tyr weeks aswell

but i carry the fuck out of tyr weeks on pala

so i convinced them

[keen spruce]

you can carry the fk out of fort weeks on pala too

but ig they're both good at mob control

[feral mason]

ye but dh cranks a lil harder

[keen spruce]

and vdh does more dmg

[feral mason]

plus our aug got a ret with leggo now

so dh for buff and stuff

[keen spruce]

our aug might be goin mage

[feral mason]

ret is honestly quite powerful alongside a fire mage

[keen spruce]

for the back half of the season depending on how the .5 patch lands

i think mage is cheeks tho

never seen fire do damage

[blazing jewel]

Kill all ret mains

[keen spruce]

i think ret is giga mid

[feral mason]

ret is aight

[keen spruce]

pad machines

no single target

[blazing jewel]

Force all of them to press N or delete their blizzard account

[quartz snow]

hello guys , just got a Nick of time , should i still farm a 2nd one ? or should i aim for a Crafted / other dagger ?

[feral mason]

not doing r1 keys anyway, can still get title with that class

fire is cracked man, big funnel + st damage

leave the padding to the other classes

[keen spruce]

dude what is it about 2am tanks

and linking routes in EB

with fkin gnarlroot

[blazing jewel]

He’s an og

[feral mason]

Havoc pugger wanted me to play gnarlroot + lashers this week

like

[keen spruce]

this mfer has 31m hp

[feral mason]

[keen spruce]

on tyran

like why

[feral mason]

nah unironically gnarlroot is good count

just not playable this week

Since you cant pull stuff on it

[quartz snow]

or the bonus don't stack ?

Fresh rogue here

[feral mason]

it stacks so 2nd one is fine

[quartz snow]

perfect thanks

[keen spruce]

i'm not fightin that fkin tree

[feral mason]

krill issue

bro thats the only non boss mob that lives through dm this week

why are you complaining

[lean portal]

farm 2, dont craft weapons, only thing better than 483 nick is a 489 dagger

on main hand

[quartz storm]

Assa is behind sub and outlaw right ?

[balmy condor]

kinda depends

but for the highest levels, yeah it's slightly behind

still totally playable

[hearty reef]

[quartz storm]

Okay, thanks 🙏

[feral mason]

Is that just a scaling thing

or were the other specs more specific stat reliant so it took them longer to get going

[royal lantern]

yes

the scaling of "assa got a 8% nerf too its dmg, and blizz for some reason didnt touch sub or outlaw even thought the did more or less the same dmg"

[keen spruce]

damn

well got to yanlu

with 7 minutes

in a 26

[feral mason]

Nerfs aside though

After that 3% nerf the rankings shifted a lot more all of a sudden

Always wondered if other specs just got more gear or smth

[keen spruce]

pretty sure sub was always better

or ver yclose

[feral mason]

oh yeah for sure

[keen spruce]

but assas was best external enjoyer

[feral mason]

the seperation before the nerf was like 5-6% before

And then suddenly behind

[royal lantern]

wdym nerfs aside lol

[feral mason]

That the shift was a lot greater than 3% is what I’m trying to say

Guess people rerolled and externals got transferred?

or attrib fixed i guess

[royal lantern]

well

assa was external boosted and is not anymore

fuck externals btw, balancing around them is F U N 🙂

killtimers are worse for assa

smoldy+tindral HEAVY favor sub

[feral mason]

any hope of pi getting removed is out the window after seeing some of the talent trees

Wouldnt be surprised if we just get more for every healer overlap hero spec

[royal lantern]

sub has almost 0weakness rn in its dmg pattern (cleave/low target aoe is bad, thats all tbh)

like

[feral mason]

or a few of them at least

[royal lantern]

all shit adds up

[feral mason]

brew + mistweaver is getting external buffs for sure

Same with guardian + resto with offheal / global defs probably

[quartz snow]

Thanks sensei

[gaunt moat]

@keen spruce guildies want me to join them tonight for 25-28 keys
so far highest i've done were 23.
Any tips i should know about?
like different talents / gear?

[feral mason]

run elusiveness instead of cheat death

[arctic socket]

Get ready to weave feint into your rotation

[clever sapphire]

git gud, kill shit, blame the healer if you die

[feral mason]

elusiveness is genuinely massive man

especially on outlaw with the evasion part

[gaunt moat]

is elusivness good even when you're not using evasion?

[feral mason]

yeah

will pretty much spam feint on any big damage intake

[arctic socket]

If you’re not pressing evasion you’re pressing feint

[feral mason]

or both

[arctic socket]

Also run a vers flask

[feral mason]

Archmage Sol is calling …

[clever sapphire]

i usually press evasion when dmg is incoming and im doin my dmg rota, since feint is on gcd but evasion isnt

[gaunt moat]

evasion is 2m CD right?

[clever sapphire]

and evasion + feint is just big for like shitty mage

im pretty sure its 2

unless a talent reduces it

[feral mason]

yy its 2

Outlaw can spam that shit though with their cdr

[gaunt moat]

bind it to DM?

j/k

[feral mason]

So true

[clever sapphire]

outlaw on brh charge boss can pretty much evasion every charge

and just ignore the dmg

its insane

[feral mason]

eh

If they get lucky

[clever sapphire]

i soaked 3 in a row

[feral mason]

i usually miss one or two when im doing it

if you get zero procs you’re not doing it haha

[clever sapphire]

ah well you are crying in a corner anyways at that point

[gaunt moat]

what about gear? any different trinkets?
which spec talents too? i know some don't even use CT

[clever sapphire]

but ye, elusivness is big in high keys, it also feels pretty damn nice

[feral mason]

yeah wouldn’t recommend ct during tyra week

[arctic socket]

I would use the cleave build

[clever sapphire]

dont think you change gear, ct is probably still the play in like brh/everbloom

because there are so many mobs, ct just gains big value there

[royal lantern]

dont let HIM read that

[arctic socket]

Why not

[balmy condor]

you'll summon him

[clever sapphire]

cleave build is nice and all, but it feels shit on trash packs if your tank doesnt pull around your cooldowns

[arctic socket]

Sweet talk the tank

Or bribe them with a lil coin

[royal lantern]

cus HE will come and start again that CT is the most important ability in the game

[arctic socket]

CT is like poison knife

[gaunt moat]

on the other hand, not stealth reliant

[arctic socket]

Stealth really doesn’t matter to much for sin like just use vanish or dance

[clever sapphire]

but im assuming you are running with your buddies, so organized group

if you know a big pull is coming up, tell your tank you wanna restealth for IW value

and he will let you restealth

dont tell them you want it for dmg

[gaunt moat]

IW?

[clever sapphire]

iron wire

[gaunt moat]

ah right

I was told the trinket from BRH is used for high keys though, just because it has a lot of vers

[balmy condor]

I'd hope it wasn't a sin rogue that told you that

trinket is uber dogass

[arctic socket]

I don’t think you’re ever gonna not be using branch / pips

[clever sapphire]

its good for sub/outlaw

[gaunt moat]

it was, but i will not disclose who

[balmy condor]

[arctic socket]

Wasn’t it you whispyr that said it was good

[royal lantern]

was it me?

[grim jay]

Cant be Whispyr because Whispyr is memeing about vers for survivability since the dawn of time

[earnest remnant]

Nah Whispyr is at the psych ward

i have meme'd to much about Ashes

he has lost it

[royal lantern]

what did you do

[earnest remnant]

"hey man i hear that Ashes is BiS"

i kept that meme alive

or whenever someone else mentions Ashes

i chime in 🙂

[snow sinew]

Damn, good to know

[balmy condor]

what exactly is good to know

[snow sinew]

This

[balmy condor]

@earnest remnant you stupid fucking cunt

[snow sinew]

🙃

[balmy condor]

look what you've done

[earnest remnant]

Love you to Honey

[balmy condor]

baiting the noobs

without even trying

[earnest remnant]

its a talent of mine

its not much, but its honest work

[balmy condor]

[spice surge]

its bis over there 👉 #subtlety

[earnest remnant]

They see the Raccoon picture

and think

he seems like a nice and upright guy

(im not)

i literally live in trash

[spice surge]

Denmark isnt that bad

[arctic socket]

Ashes is simming higher for me then branch is this normal?

[balmy condor]

no

[earnest remnant]

takes me exactly 20sec to come into this channel to make it chaos

[arctic socket]

For some reason it’s also weighing my vers really high

[dark token]

👀

[dark token]

[balmy condor]

whelp

soviet awake

time to go to bed I guess

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/out-disappear-bye-vanished-gif-4932063

[earnest remnant]

heard if you say bloody mary 3 times in the mirror he appears with a talent tree string for you

[arctic socket]

Makes you lose dps but that doesn’t matter

[royal lantern]

for whisp there is also blood on the walls behind him that writes "stat weights??"

[spice spire]

[earnest remnant]

i also hear that when Quake closes his eyes and tries to fall asleep he sees Warcraftlogs banner infront of him and the sound of pings for reviews

[arctic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-like-a-log-sleeping-log-gif-7817126525077078656

[spice spire]

Yeah because mfs ping me all night

[light jacinth]

@earnest remnant

[spice surge]

LogChamp

[earnest remnant]

@light jacinth

[light jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meow-miyav-kedicik-kedi-gif-1521585749929372542

[earnest remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-lick-fast-lick-cute-cat-cats-gif-27624519

[arctic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-cat-meme-face-cat-shocked-orange-cat-what-da-hell-gif-15285770798606642445

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/grimace-cat-grimace-cat-cats-cat-fun-gif-17582724

[arctic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-holding-head-cat-sad-cat-rahh-wahhhh-gif-11843610789762008433

“Stat weights?”

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-finger-gif-23872051

[earnest remnant]

thats you if we meet irl

imma shut you up real quick

[spice spire]

Dog?

[earnest remnant]

no, raccoon

[arctic socket]

Sus

[spice spire]

Mfs horny posting at 6:50 am on a Monday

[earnest remnant]

its 1:51

[arctic socket]

Them log reviews get us goin

[spice spire]

Fake time stealthi

[keen spruce]

i ate like

a pound of prime rib

and passed out

at like 7pm

then woke up at like 2 am

and there's no keys

[arctic socket]

Make your own

[keen spruce]

i have a 27 throne

i'm not runnin that shit

[arctic socket]

Drop it and repush key

[keen spruce]

gross

[spice spire]

You’re pushing strike 3 after yesterday

[lucid otter]

Does anyone know the macro for stopping the ambush overriding sinister for the KIR build as you dont really want to press ambush right?

[keen spruce]

#outlaw

[spice spire]

[royal lantern]

yahtzee pirate

🤢

[hardy dagger]

Buff assa

Not nr1 on wclogs anymore

[indigo sinew]

Is there a spreadsheet or similar for raid mechanics that feint works on?

[keen spruce]

nop

just gotta go try it

[lucid otter]

Haha @keen spruce my bad I thought I was in the outlaw channel

[keen spruce]

and see what kills you

[indigo sinew]

Lmao aite then

[spice surge]

Fwiw this raid feint works against pretty much everything you'd expect it to work against in raid

[indigo sinew]

Ah oke. Was wondering how useful it is on smol because some things feel ambiguous

[royal lantern]

no

nerf the others

be a hater

(sub will get a hit anyway)

[spice surge]

I say that and then i checked logs and realize it doesnt actually reduce the fire on the ground on smolderon

[royal lantern]

cloak doesnt work on the EB mage boss ground fire iirc

[spice surge]

Well ye i said raid on purpose

Dungeons have some very suspicious mechanics in regards to feint/cloak/evasion

[dark token]

It works on the fire rng hits at least, idk why run over the ground fire

It's really annoying the dungeon design this season has so many 1shots that feint doesn't work on

S1 I remember only 1-2 keys where you needed elusiveness

Now it's 7/8

[spice surge]

"needed" was also a stretch, the top runs had cheat for every dungeon

But ye nokhud and rlp last boss elusiveness was good against

[spice spire]

Nokhud needed elusiveness iirc

Like it was the only way to survive the final boss near the top

But even then that was after 27s

[spice surge]

You could vanish it, it was the 3rd boss that was more annoying

But you could just rotate cds and include cheat as a "cd" for it

Shit like the throne first boss this season is significantly more cursed

[spice spire]

How about you rotate and cds nuts

I’m sorry you didn’t deserve that

[spice surge]

Now youre not getting a pic of the whole chicken im roasting

[spice spire]

Okay good. I love seeing people cook

[snow sinew]

i misread that

[spice spire]

[flint raptor]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[modest glen]

Can we see garrote silences on details somehow? It tracks prot pala silence with avengers shield, but not garrote afaik?

[gaunt moat]

@keen spruce which talent build are you using for higher keys

[arctic socket]

Sus

Wait you said cook

[keen spruce]

Hidden opportunity

cleave tho

cleave for everything

until i start pushin on pirate

[gaunt moat]

and you focus only a single target or do you spread bleeds?

[keen spruce]

bleeds between CDs

ST during CDs

let spatter do the heavy lifting

even between CDs

i'm only throwing out a couple extra ruptures normally

[gaunt moat]

just for the energy?

[keen spruce]

yeah and to feel like i'm doing something

[gaunt moat]

oh btw, we got Smolderon night 🎊
about another 3 hours of wiping.

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/pet-cock-gif-18847012

[spice spire]

Dog what the

[keen spruce]

[arctic socket]

Yes

[spice spire]

I’m not a walking innuendo man

[spice surge]

Bro literally wrote a regular sfw sentance and is getting jumped on smh

[snow sinew]

Yea cum on guys, it wasnt meant that way….

[spice spire]

What I’m saying man

I write a normal ass sentence for once and people think I’m tryna see eleem cock

Man’s taken

[royal lantern]

i wish i could jump on quake, ngl

[spice spire]

Huh

[earnest remnant]

quake acting like there isnt a downbad inuendo behind it all smh

[spice spire]

There isn’t

I enjoy cooking and seeing other people cook.
If you’re ever proud of something you made, you can ping me. Love to see it

It’s a great skill

[pure moth]

Food thread time?

[spice spire]

Lmfao

One day

[thorn fjord]

Happy new year all… back in the mix

[gaunt moat]

Is it worth taking wouding poison over deadly on sanguine week?

[vast loom]

not for sin its giga dps loss

[snow sinew]

For lord waycrest do u swap or no?

[limber lion]

never play wound poison on sin in pve

[lean portal]

yeah cause with kingsbane now its an insane dps loss no matter what

[spice spire]

With kingsbane was unnecessary

[snow sinew]

Alright

[lean portal]

amp is like 6-7% you could sacrifice this for less lord waycrest heal i guess

or do the maths at least

but with kinsbane its way more than 7%

[arctic hare]

Its fine on sub/outlaw though right?

[limber lion]

Ye

[arctic hare]

Sweet

[quartz snow]

4 runs to got them both. I know, I deserve to be roasted

[fallow acorn]

hacker

[quartz snow]

😦

[sand burrow]

15 runs here and I haven't even seen one...

Anyone have a good set of current deep dive videos on Sin? My desire to know more is intensifying
... About sanguine blades.

Also, currently stuck at work and need a rogue Whispyring in my ear 🙂

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/he-cant-keep-getting-away-with-it-gif-19335672

[quartz snow]

But I still have a 424 necklace 😦

[pure moth]

Im at 50+ and nothing

[arctic socket]

Only 50?

It costed me 600k bribing fellow rogues to come run with me doing 17s to get two

Just for me to replace one with a 489

[spice spire]

Krill issue tbh

[arctic hare]

what about SB are you wondering about?

[pure moth]

Tried this method. No luck

[naive valve]

are there any decent alternatives to toxic pair for embellishments or should i just suck it up and deal with the stam drain

[upbeat needle]

shadow dance and kingsbane are always used together yea?

[slate crown]

For the most part yes. In keys if you are heavy bleed focused then you may desync them but for most situations they are cast together

[storm forum]

BSL is very strong, at like 60% uptime it gets stronger than the toxic stuff on ST and it better at lower uptimes in m+/AoE. If you get enough sockets, Lariat can become good as well.

[naive valve]

lit

is a pair of bsl reccomended or one + lariat

[runic hinge]

Lariat is very consistent but only at full sockets you could go double BSL until you get there

[naive valve]

okok sounds like i have a gameplan

ty all :)

[sand burrow]

Is it it worth pooling to keep it active? I know Whispyr said it's not worth playing around, but that was pre 10.2, and I haven't heard any updates on it.

[green juniper]

very noob question I forget how we did make socket for lariat?

[sand burrow]

The jewelcrafter neck settings. Buy 2 2 stars, and a 3 star, and bam.

[drifting cloud]

buy the tiered medallions on ah

[tawny geyser]

If we only farm Fall for the week, do we get loot table from Fall or from all dungs?

[royal lantern]

vault is all dungeons, no matter if you did them or not

[storm forum]

It's less worth playing around now. We get value from it when we're flooded with energy during DM and by pooling to 90%+ energy before we chain env (which our tier set rewards us heavily for)

[proven jasper]

Vault is random across all dungeons

[storm forum]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[green juniper]

@sand burrow @drifting cloud cheers bois

[storm forum]

There's a video for you. And you can probably browse around to see if he has anything else more specific about SB

[past forum]

is there any way to look at logs and see what % of the fight you were healthy enough for BSL uptime? like, without the embelishment equipped

[storm forum]

Probably. I know there's an hp tab under resources

So probably somewhere there

[past forum]

i feel like i'm always getting omega healed by our mw so i reckon my uptime would be high but idk

[lime crypt]

someone please share that secret sauce with me onto how to deal actual damage on council

[runic hinge]

Pray your tanks stack

Drop DS for IC

[storm forum]

That's dashing scoundrel, not deeper strat btw (I spent 30 seconds thinking wtf is Tony talking about)

[royal lantern]

you st a guy and when 1 of the other ones is nearby, you put dots on it and pray that they are close enough togheter that spatter cleaves

[storm forum]

Pray you don't get ducked at bad times

[lime crypt]

thats so cringe

[royal lantern]

wdym, getting ducked is awesome

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-duck-hq-gif-14135789286957337379

[naive valve]

duck me harder

[royal lantern]

duck the ranged dps

duck the healers during their cd's

duck the top dps

[storm forum]

I got ducked twice during my KBs my last kill it was awful

[royal lantern]

its fun man

[storm forum]

Duck outside of KB is fun though

[thorn fjord]

oh duck me

[simple gulch]

it happened

[spice spire]

[royal lantern]

our first larondar kill, 1of the tanks taunted on pull for some reason when i used kingsbane

my pull kingsbane with heroism+all other stuff got parried

[storm forum]

Excellent

[simple gulch]

Kingsbane can get parried?

[storm forum]

Good job tanks

Yeah

[royal lantern]

ofc

🙂

[storm forum]

It can

[spice spire]

Oh yeah

[royal lantern]

parry is a fun mechanic

[simple gulch]

I did not know that lmao

[storm forum]

It's fucking awful

[spice spire]

And it bricks that use completely

[royal lantern]

it goes on cd and nothing happens

[simple gulch]

Why does parry even exists at that point??

[naive valve]

ducking***

[simple gulch]

[storm forum]

It happens like 1/50 pulls don't worry about it

[royal lantern]

EVERYONE is asking that

when we have fights like tindral

[spice spire]

Literally 0 askers

[naive valve]

i installed a combat text addon recently and it's so discouraging to see "missed" all the time even though i know it's just AAs and poisons

[royal lantern]

where you litearlly cant stand behind 24/7 cus they turn all the time by default

or on fights where you legit cant stand behind the boss cus of how it works

[storm forum]

Parry exists cause this is a 20 year old game we refuse to move on from

[royal lantern]

you dont play the game, ofc you dont see it man

[subtle tundra]

urm

position better

get gooder

(excluding jailer, i wanted to fucking decapitate myself on jailer)

[royal lantern]

just shadowstep tidral everytime he turns

[simple gulch]

Like I used to play warrior arms, and if you parry Colossus Smash you lose 30% damage buff lmao

[royal lantern]

thats 20shadowsteps in a minute

[thorn fjord]

Oh man i rememeber this

That shit was fucking AWFUL

[subtle tundra]

dont think ive ever been more tilted

[royal lantern]

if you parry kingsbane, you can alt f4 and its a dps gain for the raid

[storm forum]

I do this on Larry, every KB gets a shadow step.

[ancient rain]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[sweet dawn]

When I'm playing assa healers say I take too much damage but as sub I don't hear it as much, is it just because sub is more vers heavy?

[spice spire]

What I’m saying

[subtle tundra]

but for exemple, i had no issues on tindral with parries

[royal lantern]

i mean, its parry, parry is rng

i went days without it

[subtle tundra]

it isnt when youre behind the boss

[royal lantern]

and then had pulls where i get a parry every 10sec

[storm forum]

Vers stack, and also sub gets more dances than us and that heals like 50% of our max hp.

[royal lantern]

man

im having 18% vers rn

i feel like a fucking yahtzee pirate

disgusting

[royal lantern]

imagine playing specs

that are so fucked

that you stack vers

[naive valve]

cries in WW offspec for main

at least sin just got a rework

[simple gulch]

Real and true

[spice spire]

Oof

WW mains

[royal lantern]

outlaw clutching on vers and items with 20000words attached too do any dmg

[simple gulch]

Tbh I kinda dislike this but in another point mastery is kinda boring just as vers is

[royal lantern]

every single patch

[royal lantern]

imo its like

if your mastery is bad

something is REALLY fucked

[simple gulch]

well, the mastery just sucks lmao

[royal lantern]

mastery is supposed to be a thing tailored for the spec

if its a dead stat

lmao

yahtzee pirate moment

[simple gulch]

it is a dead stat because the mastery itself is not good

they need to rework it

or at least buff so it's worth it

rather have some defensive capabilities than just mastery with dps only

[indigo crypt]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

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[violet reef]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[midnight spire]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[pallid kite]

does hybrid build deal more aoe dmg than arterial shock?

[old halo]

no but does still does solid aoe, and ST way better

[split flame]

Which fight style should I sim for Fyrakk on raidbots ? Hectic add cleave ?

[spice spire]

Just do ST

[split flame]

How bout Larodar ?

[bright turret]

You are there to do big boss damage on either fight

[spice spire]

Sims are just a tool to see progress.
In the end; it doesn’t matter what mode you use. If you’re blasting at primarily; found st the most useful measurement

[storm forum]

Larodar and most other ST with intermittent adds we usually just consider ST. There's no great way to sim for the add spawns and the add spawns doesn't really change how we play at all.

[coarse summit]

just do the sim with caustic spatter

[old halo]

try simming only 2 min boss ST, makes you feel good about numbers

[solid mica]

!fuu

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[still haven]

Hi all, I mostly play outlaw but have been testing the waters in assassination lately. Because I was playing outlaw, my gear is mostly crit vers, is that a big issue for assassination? There is like a 50k dps difference on pure ST with the same gear set (minus weapons)

[balmy condor]

the crit/vers probably accounts for like 3k of that

[still haven]

I figured the stats, shouldnt make that big of a difference. My daggers are pretty bad, considering I hadnt really tried to collect any at this point. But simply put you can see here

I figured most of this would come down to "skill issue" but seeing such a gap in the sim dps makes me feel like there is something else at work here that im missing.

[balmy condor]

I mean assa does sim less

it's about 30kish in bis

scaled down I'd assume maybe 20k for you

the rest would just be not having branch/ashes and a trash dagger probably

[still haven]

ok, fair enough. Gonna keep grinding away and shoring up my weaker slots (trinkets are just as bad as my daggers). Thanks!

[solid mica]

would something like this be more bursty over traditional st for last boss of galakron with no execute or is ap better we reckon?

[balmy condor]

I think I just threw up

[solid mica]

lol

[fallow acorn]

lol

[solid mica]

i mean zoldyck is just 2 wasted points was why i was wondering

[spice spire]

[fallow acorn]

moves out of the blast radius

[slate crown]

I mean over the course of the entire dungeon zoldyck is giving you benefit

[solid mica]

specficially for swapping

wouldn't play it till the last boss

[spice spire]

You m0ing

[balmy condor]

hearthing and getting summoned back

I would hope

I mean

there are so many things fucked about this

[solid mica]

yea u can just use portals now

[balmy condor]

but I would hope

[slate crown]

They could be one of those types who runs out and changes spec

[solid mica]

was just fkn around

[balmy condor]

I'd probably just play ttk

or bone spike

or just

anything else

[solid mica]

there's no reason not to swap the way the dungeon is

lol aight

haven't played sepsis this tier didn't know if it sucked

[balmy condor]

bone spike sucks too

doomblade also sucks

it is what it is

[solid mica]

rough

[balmy condor]

degeneracy is left as an exercise to the reader

[gilded oasis]

would you say.. in the end.. it doesn't even matter?

[spice spire]

I’d say that ur so based for that

And I’d agree

[gilded oasis]

[runic hinge]

If you want your burst to go up just get pi

[radiant cove]

When I’m doing my opener I have a hard time keeping up envenom. Envenom -> macro with deathmark, trinket and potion-> shiv -> dance -> kingsbane -> garrote -> envenom

It usually falls off before I can use envenom again. Is this a huge deal? And do yo have any ideas? Am I just slow or is it a haste thing?

[marsh ferry]

Envenom at 5+ right before DM

[arctic hare]

Yeah, you can try to use mut twice before the envenom before deathmark

[radiant cove]

Are shiv dance and kingsbane all on gcd?

[drifting cloud]

dance isnt

[radiant cove]

Okay so i could macro dance and kingsbane to reduce the number of buttons

[balmy condor]

most people do, ye

[radiant cove]

Perfect Ty

[cinder bluff]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[sweet dawn]

Sepsis in 2024?!

[gilded oasis]

what tier set are we voting for for s4

(funny blizzard thinking I remember anything past last week)

[runic hinge]

Dang I was here to ask the same thing

Not s2’s 4 set that’s all I know

[gilded oasis]

ok voting s2 got it

[runic hinge]

S2 also had the bug that kept you in combat

[gilded oasis]

s2 tmog kinda slaps tho

[drifting cloud]

@balmy condor you cant let this slide

[rare jackal]

there is like no shot you vote for anything but season 3 bonus right

[nocturne torrent]

Shame we cant mix and match

[gilded oasis]

is it bad I forgot what s3 bonus was for a good 20 seconds?

[nocturne torrent]

Imagine we could pick like 2 2ps or like a 2p from one season and 4p from another

[gilded oasis]

ok we vote s2 tmog, s3 tier bonus

[severe sparrow]

ohhh branch on nymue is :<

stupid lines

[gilded oasis]

yeah its fun...ny

[karmic cedar]

If anyone votes season 2 and makes us not able to restealth for another season, I will hunt you down

[gilded oasis]

ok now the real question, which is the worst for sub and outlaw so we can vote for that?

[nocturne torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/diabolical-the-boys-billy-butcher-gif-15296323

Love it

[final star]

Then they just buff it to make it good :^)

[gilded oasis]

[cursive frost]

i don't even remember s1 bonus

[woeful meteor]

vote for the worst one playstyle wise 🙂

which tbf doesnt matter for 95% off playerbase, cause good dmg = goated playstyle

[karmic cedar]

From a PvP perspective, S1 is probably better

[gilded oasis]

1 2 3 in order

I hope

[sweet dawn]

Not gonna lie, season 1 2 set KB stonks?

[cursive frost]

s3 seems best for all

[final star]

Na all three rogue specs just choose current season I thino

[rare jackal]

pretty much, realz was cooking too hard to pass it up

[storm forum]

I'm voting for 3, because it most directly increases KB damage.

[cursive frost]

S1 low key best tmog

[wicked valve]

I honestly really like this tier. Am I stupid?

Like, this current tier.

[gilded oasis]

tmog or bonus?

[wicked valve]

Bonus, I use the same tmog forever

[storm forum]

If it's the bonus, you're valid

[gilded oasis]

I think everyone likes the bonus

[bright turret]

3 is great because sin rarely gets any AoE from their tier

[storm forum]

If it's the tmog, well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess.

[wicked valve]

Nah, I use the mythic leigon one from nighthold, goes perfectly with red ghostblades.

[gilded oasis]

Ok who did it

33% of you are in trouble

[dawn kettle]

are we s3 enjoyers

[humble ginkgo]

im voting season 2

[cursive frost]

time for everyone to go grief the boomkins

[dawn kettle]

they grief themselves its fine

[runic hinge]

I’ll grief you

[abstract junco]

S2 with newfangled AP/IC/Sudden seems kind of juiced up I think?

[dawn kettle]

he griefs himself its fine

[runic hinge]

I liked s1 tmog the best but s3 tier set

[abstract junco]

S2 4p with spatter seems big, unless?

[drifting cloud]

huge nature dmg buff outside of cds

[bright turret]

doing more nature damage after your CDs are done isn't very helpful

[runic hinge]

Spatter is for kb which is during dm. We don’t want damage after dm

[bright turret]

S1/S2 do not synergize with rework at all

[runic hinge]

S1 is whatever. It just doesn’t do shit but passive damage

[grim tangle]

you just delay kingsbane so the last couple of ticks are after DM

[runic hinge]

S2 2set griefed me from ever getting restealths

[bright turret]

free AoE from this season's 4 set is the greatest gift of all

[runic hinge]

It’s worse to do that

We didn’t do that week 1 of the patch when the rework was out and we had old tier we aren’t gonna want to do it for s4 either

[dawn kettle]

go grief the aug lizards

[dark token]

Yes u did

It was found to be a gain but never added to apl because tier set going away in 1 week

[runic hinge]

Oh maybe this is why I never did it

[spice spire]

Ur so real for that

[dark token]

I'm going s2 tier vote

For AP CT sudden demise build STONKS

S1 is also good

[runic hinge]

Pls no

I want shadowmeld to work in dungeons

And to be able to actually vanish in pvp

[balmy condor]

no you didn't

y'all making shit up

it was an insanely small gain of like 0.2% to put the last tick outside of DM

and it did that by default

the same way that you lose lethal dose now

[dark token]

Oh ik it was a small gain but I didn't know it was implemented

[balmy condor]

it didn't need to be

it's always worked like that

[runic hinge]

Yeah well fuck that tierset anyways

[dark token]

All I know is I did more dam with that tier set on council/m+ than new tier set

[normal mist]

So basically we can vote the tmog and what tier we want next season right?

[gilded oasis]

yes

[main solar]

I personally already dislike how the whole spec essentially revolves around kingsbane and how there really isn't any other option. It's fine for one tier, but would hate a tier bonus that just doubles down on that.

[dark token]

I think it's a cool core gameplay loop to keep in the spec because sin was really boring without it

And gives us nice burst/cleave profile

[balmy condor]

remember the last time they let the community vote?

[gilded oasis]

[dark token]

Realistically people are just voting for highest % DPS tier set

[runic hinge]

I love trains but I do not love that instance

[main solar]

I'd actually be interested to see if there's any smaller class adjustments with that patch. Seems like it could really influence whatever choice

[dark token]

Since they find that big numbers = more fun

[balmy condor]

they have actually no way to do that

[dark token]

The way the blue post is worded makes me think the ilvl is scaled up but bonuses will remain the same

[slim hamlet]

alright

[humble ginkgo]

so season 2 assa set, season 1 sub set, season 1 outlaw set

got it

[slim hamlet]

what we voting bois

[dark token]

Or they could rebalance numbers on the tier

[dark token]

S1 sub are u cracked

???

[slim hamlet]

I legit cant remember any of the season sets

[normal mist]

I wonder if flaring cowl + ring will be bis again

[slim hamlet]

besides the nature dmg after DM one

[dark token]

S3 clearly for outlaw/sub, highest dps and most fun

[humble ginkgo]

I will vote for the worst possible combination possible 🙏

[slim hamlet]

me too bestie

Lets make every rogue hate themselves for 6 months

[gilded oasis]

we already hate ourselves??

[dark token]

I just want sin to be m+ meta gods

[gilded oasis]

hellow

[runic hinge]

Jokes on you I already do

[bright turret]

if blizzard wont nerf sub, we'll nerf their tier set

[dark token]

And I think s2 tier is strongest in aoe/dungeons

[raven egret]

So what do we vote for 😄

[slim hamlet]

s2 tier would make us actually click CT in dungeons right?

LOGIN

[dark token]

Yup

[runic hinge]

Yeah but if they don’t fix the bugs with it imma tilt

[dark token]

What bugs

[fallow canopy]

splatter + sdemmise + s2 would be quite the poggins

[slim hamlet]

the 4 set sounds cringe tho

[minor gate]

Do we get to combine tier effects or is it just we choose one season’s tier

[dark token]

It was huge when season just launched

My sudden demise was top dps

I miss it

[gilded oasis]

choose one

[slim hamlet]

so s1 is by far the worst right

complete poo poo

[dark token]

S1 is just 10% mastery and boring

[slim hamlet]

S3 has to be the best and most fun, but 2 seasons in a row is rough

[ebon heath]

Are raids getting re-scaled too? I don't wanna farm dathea again

[gilded oasis]

yes

fated

woooo

[dark token]

S3 is probably most rotationally interesting in st but I think s2 would be more fun for keys

If we vote for big aoe tier set, sin st will suck, it gets buffs

Then we will be m+ meta spec because they buffed us for raid

[brazen zodiac]

: O

[dark token]

Hence vote s2

[fallow canopy]

I'm just going to do the ethical move of don't vote and then proceed to complain with whichever decision ends up winning

[slim hamlet]

s2 would make us gain value from DM in keys where the prio target explodes

[dark token]

Im also trolling outlaw with s1 set vote

[slim hamlet]

pog

[dark token]

Exactly s2 was massive in keys

[bright turret]

quit trying to ruin raiding with lame s2 set and play outlaw in M+

[minor gate]

So I’m killing myself if I see deathmark in the tier effect

[dark token]

See but they balance around raid, they will give us 10% aura buff because our st suck cause we picked aoe tier set

Then little did they know it unlocked sin m+ meta

[severe sparrow]

so uh is there any actual fix for the entire dead raid group being stuck in combat or is that it for prog tonight

[gilded oasis]

just dont die 5hed

also Im not sure, how long have you been dead in combat

[dark token]

Tbh they should just have all 3 sets

Let people customize themselves

[bright turret]

yea

i doubt it would be very hard just to put every bonus on a vendor

[severe sparrow]

i dunno maybe 4 minutes

[dark token]

This idea kinda dumb

[bright turret]

fated raiding was generally free in SL, so let people go wild

[severe sparrow]

we're kicking someone so they can get booted from the instance

zzz small indie company or something

[dark token]

It would also be way more fun to mix and match 2p

Like 2p s2 with 2p s3

Would kick ass

You can already xmog to whatever set u want

Lame idea

The more I think about it the more I want all 3 sets in 1 season on a vendor

[gilded oasis]

idk I think that would turn into a balancing nightmare

[bright turret]

balance is already going to be whack from being able to buy certain things with dinar and specs getting better/worse set bonuses based on voting

[ashen scroll]

sin s2 or s3 prob? s2 was cool

[severe sparrow]

i think the servers are turbo fucked, looks like people are getting locked out of mythic lol

[dark token]

S4 is supposed to be unbalanced fun for a couple months anyway

[ruby oyster]

how do you even vote, it says i cant because i cant reply to the thread lol?

[gilded oasis]

its overloaded

Just do it tomorrow

[nova badge]

!fuu

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[arctic hare]

I would honestly prefer S1

good mix of both ST and AOE

or sorry, Bleed and poison

[dark token]

But it's weakest and most boring

[arctic hare]

Really? its the weakest?

Ah, yeah, I can see that

[dark token]

The set is 10% mastery

Like

It's ur whole set

10% mast

[slim hamlet]

s1 is the most boring for 90% of the specs

it was just stats

[balmy condor]

they're tuning the sets anyway

[slim hamlet]

doesn't change the fact they are just stats but ye

[dark token]

Are they? It sounds more like they are tuning ilvl not set bonuses vs each other

I would hope they do set bonuses but

[slim hamlet]

"Please keep in mind that we’re going to update the power of the set bonuses to match the increased power of the new gear in Season 4"

[dark token]

Post is kinda ambiguous

Increased power of the new gear

[slim hamlet]

There is no way that is just ilvl increase

[dark token]

That's ilvl

[slim hamlet]

like obviously there would be ilvl increase

they wouldnt write that

[balmy condor]

[dark token]

Why would they say anything about gear anyway

[slim hamlet]

no shot u think they would give us 400ilvl gear

[dark token]

I don't think they would

I think they are telling casuals they won't

Cause casuals might not get it

[slim hamlet]

yea no shot

I don't believe it

They out here doing propaganda

[dark token]

We need a s2 tier set pin

🙏

People will vote s1 they don't understand

[slim hamlet]

s2 for m+ s3 for raid

who is with me

[dark token]

They will balance raid so sin isn't op anyway

Like they did last 3 tiers

[slim hamlet]

Yea they will remove PI

[dark token]

Who cares about raid bonus

[slim hamlet]

I agree

[dark token]

But they never balance sin m+

Vote for biggest m+ set

[slim hamlet]

This the season!

[dark token]

Gonna hire 10000 bots to vote s2

Alt army

[slim hamlet]

you dont hire bots

nerd

[raven egret]

uhm losing the envenom explosion will suck a bit

but I see the point

[gilded oasis]

oh ya gotta vote on my second account and third account thanks for the reminder

[dark token]

But 40% on all ruptures in a key

And it works with sudden demise

U will execute the world

[arctic hare]

and crimson tempest too

oh BOY lmao

[raven egret]

its 40% as nature damage I thought, not bleed

[bright turret]

thought it was just more nature damage, wouldn't that do nothing for SD

[dark token]

Yes

Idk how it's coded but sudden demise was much bigger with s2 bonus

I think it's counting the additional dam

[pale tiger]

arterial shock + s2 would be so giga

we must vote s2

[dark token]

It was

We must vote s2

[bright turret]

sounds like that'd be more a weird bug

[dark token]

First week of sin keys was insane

[bright turret]

and would get fixed

[dark token]

If anyone remembers

[raven egret]

Are we SURE s2 works with Sudden

[dark token]

No

But I know it's the best aoe set and that's enough

My top council parse is still from week 1

When I had old tier set

On aoe it's nasty

[slim hamlet]

There is a 0% chance it does

[gilded oasis]

idk thats more 3 target cleave less aoe to me but

[slim hamlet]

tbh s3 tier set is by far the best and most interesting

[dark token]

On aoe it would be even better than 3t

[spice spire]

False bestie

[pallid kite]

in the end im drunk

[spice spire]

I love mega chaining envenom

[slim hamlet]

I love playing outlaw too

[pallid kite]

i do 100k dps overall as 477 ilvl =)))))

[bronze pike]

what do i vote for

[pallid kite]

on outlaw

[bronze pike]

GASP

[dark token]

This envenom tier set cucks sin players into handicapping themselves with st builds

Unleash the AP shock

Vote s2

[slim hamlet]

CT should just be stronger baseline to where u dont avoid it in literal m+

[spice spire]

I’m unsure if that was worth deleting

But I did to be safe

[slim hamlet]

It was just a gif of stealthi

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/im-doing-my-part-serious-stare-gif-11979677

[gilded oasis]

can you delete s2 propaganda?

[slim hamlet]

the fuck

[spice spire]

Nah I’m actually a s2 simp

[slim hamlet]

[gilded oasis]

I knew I hated you

[spice spire]

I’ll delete any and all s2 slander

[slim hamlet]

I am s2 slander

delete me

please

[hasty gate]

wafting or sophic devo

[spice spire]

Just like me fr

[pallid kite]

teach me how to do over 160k overall on 20's keys

[gilded oasis]

fr fr on god no cap

[gilded oasis]

kb spatter better, get an aug, dont drop bleeds

tell the other dps not to kill things so fast

[slim hamlet]

"get an aug"

[gilded oasis]

so you can do damage

[slim hamlet]

Truly a beta

[pallid kite]

i know to do 2 things in m+

trying my burst idk if its correct on aoe

and st trying again idk if is correct

got around 47% mastery only

and 40% crit

[reef crow]

Apply ur dots with IC. Do ST burst rotation on main target. Make sure you apply splatter to main target.

Free dmg

Thrown in a CT if u feeling saucy

[pallid kite]

I'm so not used to use branch and deathmark on bigger targets

[raven egret]

I'm leaning keeping S3 personally..

[pallid kite]

like a bigger target has around 20+ mil health

[hasty gate]

just dont use branch cause it doesnt exist easy

[pallid kite]

and idk if that target would survive the whole burst

and if i use branch on aoe pulls

and dm and kb

if we arrive o 1st boss or either 1

im 0

[winged sun]

What season are we voting?

[pallid kite]

4

[sweet pawn]

!fuu

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[bright turret]

S2 if you like M+ S3 if you like raiding

[pallid kite]

i started playing hybrid build and it seems like i do a lil more aoe

1st time i got around 900k dps on a pull

[gray hazel]

I don’t even remember what set bonuses were in s1/s2 lol

[pallid kite]

S1 might be teach me your rotation and S2 might be help me improve

[tough gorge]

I use arterial for fortified, mobs live long enough that CT makes sense. Then cleavr build for tyranical, to be the boss killer, mobs will die easily anyways.

[pallid kite]

what keys do you run wally

[tough gorge]

Nothing crazy high. Just 18-23 range. I dont care for the push.

Perhaps those doing 25+ prefer other builds.

[pallid kite]

idk what build should i run for 20's i mostly ran arterial shock and now i m on hybrid for last 2-3 dungeons

[raven egret]

cleave build ftw but without the S3 set that build is likely dead

[spice spire]

Bless

[modest glen]

I think artierial is fine for 20’s

[balmy condor]

Vote For The Season 4 Tier Set

Here's the bonuses:

- Envenom Icon Envenom also increases your weapon poisons' damage by 20%.
- When your weapon poisons deal direct damage, you have a 50% chance to gain Septic Wounds Icon Septic Wounds, increasing all Bleed damage done by 4% for 8 seconds, stacking up to 5 times.```
```10.1 Season 2:
- Rupture deals an additional 40% damage as Nature. Crimson Tempest deals an additional 20% damage as Nature.
- When Deathmark expires, Nature damage you deal is increased by 40% for 30 sec.```
```10.2 Season 3:
- Each 10 Energy you spend grants Natureblight, granting 1% attack speed and 1% nature damage for 6 sec. Multiple instances of Natureblight may overlap, up to 12.
- Envenom additionally empowers itself causing an Envenomous Explosion dealing Nature damage to all nearby enemies when cast with  Envenom active. Deals reduced damage beyond 5 targets. If Envenomous Explosion deals damage to a single target, it is increased by 150%.```TLDR:
Season 1:
- Very passive, basically just mastery%. Weapon poison does not count for Kingsbane
Season 2:
- Removes some of the burst of the spec by spreading it out and diluting for after deathmark. Post rework and kingsbane being insanely high, might see some changes to kingsbane timing to abuse this
- Really good in aoe cause bleeds yep
Season 3:
- Pooling gameplay from the 4 piece, very heavy burst and single target, kingsbane focused

# Note that power level on these is irrelevant, they’re getting tuned anyway, vote for the gameplay not the power

[humble ginkgo]

Vote for season 2 or bust

[misty holly]

Season 2, rupture damage pumping.

[runic hinge]

pls no season 2

[balmy condor]

y'all can vote for whatever the fuck you want

I ain't playing it regardless

[storm forum]

Whispyr also taking a break for fated?

[balmy condor]

of course

why the fuck would I want to play fated lmao

[spice spire]

Not rewarding skipping a tier

[misty holly]

But fated is the most powerful version of the gear. If someone with all fated gear duels you wearing normal old raid gear you will be embarassed. How can you risk bringing shame on the family like that.

[spice spire]

By pillaging the last weeks raid of all gear

[storm forum]

Also "envenom icon" lol

[drifting cloud]

whispyr is going to be progging tindral during fated

[winged sun]

Vote season 2 for transmog!

[runic hinge]

No

[winged sun]

What are we voting for the assa boys?

[balmy condor]

I'm gonna be progging maplestory yep

[arctic hare]

Wait

are we able to have the S3 transmog with s2 tier bonus?

Or something like that?

[winged sun]

Ya

[arctic hare]

oh, thats weird, but cool lmao

[winged sun]

Theres a mog vote

[balmy condor]

if you unlock the current S3 transmog, you just transmog over it

mog vote is

very weird

[winged sun]

Im voting s2 mog

[balmy condor]

I get it

[winged sun]

Loved it

[balmy condor]

but it's weird

[raven egret]

currently

[winged sun]

I agree

[bright turret]

down with s2 voters

play outlaw in M+ like god intended

[raven egret]

never

[storm forum]

I'm surprised s1 is above s2. S1 is so boring.

[runic hinge]

I’m voting s1 mog and s3 tier

[bright turret]

people voting 1 sounds like an op, trying to sabotage us

[storm forum]

Might be people who like boring. And want to play around SB and stay above 50% energy at all times.

[frosty flame]

so based

[storm forum]

[spice spire]

Based on what

[storm forum]

Based on strawpoll data

[spice spire]

O

[slate crown]

Ok just saw the poll what am I voting for

[unique sorrel]

S2 for m+

[spice spire]

Whichever you want homie

[slate crown]

Probably S1 transmog, S3 bonuses

[storm forum]

Wait I'm taking a break for s4, I should just be voting for the worst options so I don't get tempted to play.

[runic hinge]

Pls no

[misty kernel]

am glad to help ❤️

[runic hinge]

People not realizing the s2 2 set will keep you in combat forever. Even through death. Imagine you’re doing NO and you die and you can’t fly back to your team because your rupture is still ticking

[misty kernel]

they will fix it for sure KEKW

[runic hinge]

Just like they did the entirety of s2 lmaooo

[storm forum]

i cant tell if tony is trying to reverse psychology me into voting for s2 tier or not

[runic hinge]

I am actually going to play the game please don’t grief me

I want meld to work

[storm forum]

damn you're good....

[runic hinge]

[storm forum]

[runic hinge]

I swear if we get s2 imma reroll for the season

[storm forum]

Tony feral is back lfg

its not letting me vote .-.

it logged me out and when i tried to log back in it gave me a 404 error

[runic hinge]

Probably spriest. I’ve been having a lot of fun as that as an alt

[storm forum]

Wowee

[runic hinge]

Ferals tier for this season is super fun tho Druid is 470 without me playing it much