#assassination

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spice spire
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Wait is this just heroic

iron lynx
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Interesting, alright thanks 🙏

wise gull
spice spire
thorn fjord
wise gull
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i still played it mythic though. also, we don't talk about SLG i never progged it

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left my guild on sludgefist and joined a guild on sire EZ

lime crypt
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simc default are bis consumables, or do i have to add them myself?

shell osprey
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I love how reasonable the numbers are in s1 shadow lands

lime crypt
shell osprey
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Lmao

wise gull
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S1 shadowlands owned

shell osprey
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What about last patch mop numbers

wise gull
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i picked a good tier to get my only CE

vestal wren
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damn, so many good options

shell osprey
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Yeah castle Nath still my most favorite recent raid

slim hamlet
peak bobcat
vestal wren
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i am eu boy

slim hamlet
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Just got sent it in dm

barren hare
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im 482 and sim for 213k :/

vestal wren
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so no vault today

peak bobcat
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im bout to end it all

slim hamlet
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Oh

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I get branch u get nick tomorrow Fuu

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deal?

vestal wren
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would be nice ^^

shell osprey
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Dw that's how my vault will look kekdog

wise gull
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I want that nick so bad

vestal wren
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i still use s2 nick in offhand

wise gull
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I'm still rocking 2x 476 nicks

vestal wren
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it sims well ^^

wise gull
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hero track refuses to drop

slim hamlet
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Got myth nick first vault

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so I will never complain

wise gull
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i hate you

stiff pivot
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Guys is it not better to refresh rupture in your opener KB window? Top logs don't at all

slim hamlet
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It took 30 runs for branch tho

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So it evens out

stiff pivot
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Had argument with guildie lol

barren hare
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yeah hunters in my guild going buckwild for pi now

buoyant herald
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has anyone got that witherbark orbs weakaura handy?

wise gull
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I got two champion track nicks in less than 5 runs

slim hamlet
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refresh during dance and during vanish

wise gull
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rip rng

stiff pivot
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So it is better? But top logs don't do it. I'm wondering why

vestal wren
slim hamlet
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That is some sussy logs

stiff pivot
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They'll rupture on pull and then again after KB

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Look at the top few logs on volcoross

slim hamlet
stiff pivot
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I'll link though

wet agate
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Do i grab a mythic track ring/cloak ilvl upgrade piece or a champion track signet? Sims say to take the myth track ring.

runic hinge
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on pull I'll rupture in vanish window instead of SD

slim hamlet
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Same

runic hinge
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makes more sense since NS rupture is ticking the whole time

slim hamlet
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But that is whatever

runic hinge
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gotta be 100 dps

iron lynx
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I see a ton of logs just garrote and envenom during that window

slim hamlet
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not refreshing garrote during it is hella sus tho

runic hinge
slim hamlet
stiff pivot
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Does normal opener and then rupture again at 30

slim hamlet
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1st half week tech is garrote + envenoming

stiff pivot
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They refresh Garrote but not rupture

slim hamlet
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Oh yea that is fine

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U just gotta do garrote

stiff pivot
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Yeah I never mentioned garrote lol

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Said rupture

slim hamlet
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wait wtf is this guy

iron lynx
slim hamlet
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slamming pot 1st gcd

stiff pivot
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Yeah weirdo

slim hamlet
wet agate
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Yeah that's odd

slim hamlet
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but yea rupture is fine to not refresh in dance

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on opener

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u can rup in vanish for like 100dps

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I do it just cuz it feels right

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many don't

stiff pivot
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Is there a reason for it though

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Oh 100 dps

iron lynx
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Get into your kb window, garrote, env etc and then obvious hit your timings with tea/shiv/vanish etc but I don’t see rupture during this window basically ever, if it’s better than why not

ancient rain
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
stiff pivot
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My guildy and I trying to figure out why

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@warm shard

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Bitch

analog anchor
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so is third craft just lowest ilvl slot?

slim hamlet
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the dmg increase from snapshotting rup is just not very high compared to just envenoming

stiff pivot
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That's what I thought

forest notch
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mmm

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engi bracers next

analog anchor
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oh yeah that sounds like the play

slim hamlet
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only do when it isn't forced

stiff pivot
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Appreciate the answer though

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Love u

iron lynx
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Makes sense

wise gull
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Me thinks I craft ring next

slim hamlet
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I gotta go ring too I think

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Main stat vers starege

forest notch
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ya I think only the arch druid ring has higher mastery than the crafted ring

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so worth for sure

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I need that damm arch druid ring

wet agate
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I've got it in vault atm

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should I grab that and craft cloak?

forest notch
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it wont drop for me

pure crag
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Anyone sending a neck craft?

forest notch
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will spam it this week

wet agate
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I've also got Signet tho it's on champ track 😓

forest notch
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would you drop toxic patch for lariat if you do? or would you drop boots and patch if you go lariat and run BSL?

wet agate
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Not enough sockets for lariat yet

slim hamlet
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imo

forest notch
slim hamlet
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6 for most

forest notch
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including the 3 on neck?

quartz relic
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SA

wet agate
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Yeah

forest notch
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My sims also been telling me to use all Mast/crit gems and not crate a primary/mast gem

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does that seem right?

slim hamlet
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Probably just a Sim angle tho

obsidian walrus
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we want crafter wrists over crafted waist for embellishment?

forest notch
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so you can get engi wrists

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if you run M+ at least

slim hamlet
wet agate
forest notch
obsidian walrus
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with helm for raiding

forest notch
analog anchor
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crit mastery for crafted gear yeah?

wet agate
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Hm that's odd. Are you checking the replace existing gems box?

forest notch
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ya might have missed that then

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I thought checking the gems was enough

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didnt know there was a specific replace option

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good ot know

formal cliff
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what's this TRASH

spice spire
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A socket

formal cliff
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If you only knew

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kekw late gamers be like

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But fuck this vault still

slim hamlet
wet agate
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Takes up so many combinations though

slim hamlet
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Poor smh

full summit
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so how bad is the 15% KB nerf?

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are we still clappin cheeks?

robust scaffold
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we're getting our cheeks clapped

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viciously

indigo epoch
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Still can't believe I got a mythic nick today. Yeeet.

sturdy path
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Recommended build for Tyra in keys?

indigo epoch
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Sadly I'm stuck at work atm

indigo epoch
arctic tusk
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Good problem to have tho

wet agate
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Is there a limit to combinations with premium?

gusty mirage
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yea

spice spire
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Yeah but it’s high

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Much much higher than standard

gusty mirage
wet agate
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Interesting, might need to bust out the wallet

arctic tusk
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Is there an advanced simc that tests all gem combos

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Idk if thats a thing

gusty mirage
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you'd have to do that locally

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raidbots won't support it

robust scaffold
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so basically this porcelain crab shit just blows? Sim is telling me at Myth 4/4 it's worse than my Champion track 476 Cataclysmic Brand.... Is it just because we can't control when we get that mastery proc?

gusty mirage
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5 gems for 3 sockets is close to 11 million by itself

slim hamlet
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yo oxi no more monkE

glossy imp
robust scaffold
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word

slim pebble
indigo epoch
arctic tusk
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See which number is bigger

slim pebble
royal lantern
indigo epoch
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I'm sure it is

indigo epoch
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Gotta setup your home pc for rdp and port forward it

wet agate
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I quickly login, copy and paste my simc into an email to myself and just use the phone app at work.

supple sage
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should I catalyze 2 champ pieces to finish 4 set or hold out for hero pieces? currently 0t30 2t31, I could go 2t30 and wait, or is 4t31 much more important than ilvl?

indigo epoch
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The 4 set felt amazing to me. I'd go 4 set (this is not legal advice)

compact flint
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so for raging we can dispell 5 enrages with shiv? or am i dumb

green apex
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What's up with the catalyst trinket?

It's ranked high on blood mallet but my sims all out it below pip and my Ashes. All same ilvl.

green apex
compact flint
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fuck dmg if the tank is about to die

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nice to have it in the pocket

cobalt shuttle
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@compact flint raging doesnt do that anymore XD

wet agate
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Dw bout tank, must dps...

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one of us..

pure crag
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Someone will save tank

green apex
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Tanks die still? Wack

cobalt shuttle
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raging doesnt increase trash damage anymore what u guys are talking about D:

pure crag
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No one will save my KB window

lofty gazelle
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True, just prevents the mob from being cc’d

compact flint
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yes and a missed cc is often a wipe

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so yeah

cobalt shuttle
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trust me if u wipe cuz of that your tank is gonna die last xD

royal lantern
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you guys talk as if you never did a m+ before

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lol

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every time raging is up, the same "discussion"

winter gale
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If there are 2 assa and 1 bm hunter but 2 PI, where should 2 PI go?

indigo epoch
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Straight to hell

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Fuck PI

stiff pivot
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On tank and on healer

eternal nymph
winter gale
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Nah, we are just debating it for fun.

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Y, raid

stiff pivot
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In our guild we'll grab the best PI specs and give to whoever performs the best

winter gale
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Should one without PI get mad?

stiff pivot
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No

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It sucks not to get PI but don't rage

winter gale
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Ofc, that's my PoV

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Dunno what should I feel, how would I feel. I dont give a fuck about PI as that is not my dmg. But a rerolling trial who's 1st progress raid was last night got it over me. I am not giving a single fuck about those buffs but I do not know are they trying to tell me something.

tame tangle
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i mean does he do more damage

winter gale
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Bit demotivated tbh

stiff pivot
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Does he perform better than you

winter gale
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Well, he did on that fight, it was nimue

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m

tame tangle
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then it makes sense

sweet zealot
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You could just link bloodmallet image to ur guild discord

ocean ginkgo
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what enchant on wep u guys use

winter gale
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He is a good player, I am not taking anything from him

tame tangle
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don’t take it personal just try to make the best case for you getting it by doing more damage than he does

sweet zealot
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tell them that it would benefit the team to give it to a sin rogue (you)

winter gale
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I would do more than him with PI, both w/o I do more

deft vault
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is the crit buff on larodar permanent?

winter gale
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Especially as this last night was his 1st progg fight

desert hollow
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!wa

winter gale
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He did PI more than me, nothing more

sweet zealot
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you can also try to ask the officers if they can atleast enforce PI buff during prog

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then during reclear, they can give it to whoever

wet agate
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Buzz McCallister must be your raid leader

sweet zealot
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that worked for me

winter gale
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I am ashamed to ask as I dont want to paint that kind of picture about myself

tame tangle
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pi is such fucking trash

static glacier
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what opener you guys using for larodar

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undecided if accelerated or standard is best

sweet zealot
winter gale
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He is also Assa rogue*

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2nd one, from shadow p, goes to RL who is BM

static glacier
sweet zealot
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Well ur kinda fked then m8

ornate aspen
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Our Priest is giving PI to our Frost DK in mythic prog

tame tangle
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hell yeah

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fuck it all up

winter gale
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Y, ill let it be as I do not want to be a dickhead for an imbecil reason as PI

tame tangle
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u prob deserve a better guild then

ornate aspen
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we have 2 sin rogues btw

sweet zealot
sweet zealot
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or do they just buff random ppl?

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or whoever asked first

gusty mirage
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dog PIing a windwalker is more dps than a frost dk

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lmfao

ornate aspen
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Nope, only ever the frost DK, no reason why

sweet zealot
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one of my priest kept buffing our fury warrior...

gusty mirage
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they're PIing a spec that gets as much dps from it as sub rogue

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think about that for a second

sweet zealot
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that same priest buffs me during prog kills

craggy sparrow
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!wa

sweet zealot
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but I also feel like its a case of priest not giving a fk about who gets PI

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ppl just ask

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u have to make sure they know who they should buff

winter gale
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So, I should not care at all?

sweet zealot
ornate aspen
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People have told him, RL has told him, he just cant be asked to change the macro I guess

slim hamlet
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/gkick

ornate aspen
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Yeah he's not looking to pass his trial lol

sweet zealot
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w8 the priest is a trial?

ivory bay
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i don't know how to look if it got parried

cerulean walrus
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Interesting

sweet zealot
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idk if u cast a 2nd one

slim hamlet
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it didnt do anything

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and isnt in his dmg

stone basin
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how do you guys compete with bm and havoc in m+ ? i feel like i'm complete dogshit

slim hamlet
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usually shit is in the dmg and shows if it got parried, but maybe not if it was just 1

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u can check details

craggy sparrow
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Hey i noticed in the Whispyr's Afenar Edit WA that the Blindside WA is set to never load. Is this on purpose?

slim hamlet
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yea

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There is no reason to anymore

cerulean nest
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we did it boys

ivory bay
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yes

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but now look at the damages

ornate aspen
stone basin
ornate aspen
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They have uncapped AoE, not really much you can do about it. Unless the tank is only pulling 5 targets or you have giga shit BM/DH.

latent onyx
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anyone mind checking out a log? first heroic t swift kill, still new to rogue

royal lantern
jade dawn
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I cant get this sound bite to play during this kingsbane duration & timeline WA. im sure im doing everything right or does anyone know if i need to edit the WA to get it to play the sound?

limpid ridge
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Oh my~my 20 brh turned into 22 fall

stiff pivot
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Inv

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(Carry)

tame tangle
tacit charm
cerulean nest
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i took socket but ty!

ancient rain
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!dagger

slim pebble
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No dice on a dagger this week. RIP

drifting cedar
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guys do someone know the macro for PI?

stiff pivot
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/w name PI me

stable storm
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does thsi talent always work when above 50% (does it toggle on/off when sub 50?) or is it a snapshot type thing

south wing
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yes

spice spire
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Doesn’t snapshot

paper blaze
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guys do we still use the same talents right nothing changes?

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couse saw some talents on the arterial build got nerfed

stable storm
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does it take those 2 energy and permanently do the extra damage as long as im above 50, or does it drain 2 energy?

slim pebble
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I think I’m just going to spend all week in Fall

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Probably won’t even try to gain IO

spice spire
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Play and you’ll see the function

stable storm
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so its a "tick" that keeps going down?

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playing it rn

robust gull
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are sin sims working properly? my outlaw spec with 476 wep is simming at 188k, and sin spec with 489 wep at 173k, seems a bit odd no?

stable storm
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asking if it ticks constantly or not because im not struggling to keep myself above 50

wild beacon
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Every bleed tick it checks energy %

stable storm
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oh so it takes the energy before doing the dmg?

hearty fjord
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When the tick happens it checks if you are above 50%. If yes, takes extra 2 energy and deals extra 30% damage

stable storm
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excelent thank you

dusk palm
balmy condor
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yes

misty holly
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Only because patchwerk sim doesnt account for padding on adds.

dusk palm
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so in keys would you swap to pips, but then in raid, mostly stay sandglass?

misty holly
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probably, try simming dungeon slice

craggy oak
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personally would paly crab in keys

dusk palm
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dont have a crab

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maybe i'll go live in throne now that i dont need to live in fall

storm forum
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I just take the mirror here for M+ right? counterweight is dog and I already have a 480 cloak and bracers.

runic hinge
storm forum
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I have mast/crit neck from M+

runic hinge
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Idk. Mirror feels wack because of the cd to me

spice spire
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There ain’t no way

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I gotta say this to my goat

storm forum
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do it

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i set it up for this

spice spire
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Do a 10t patchy or DS

subtle tundra
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looks like socket angle

dark token
formal cliff
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The bot is lying to me

dark token
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why my thistle tea so heavy

formal cliff
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double haste > double mastery PogO

spice spire
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That ain’t even outside of margin

wispy leaf
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why only 1 socket into neck?

formal cliff
formal cliff
shy pecan
balmy condor
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oh

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answered already

formal cliff
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NUMBER FUCKING ONE SIM TRUSTER

robust gull
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sims have to be wrong

formal cliff
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Whisp only answers my messages to hate on me, I swear he hates me besad

arctic tusk
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
robust gull
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how i can sim higher on outlaw, with 476 wep vs sin with 489 wep and PI

formal cliff
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Stats

tough portal
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for DHT as a gnome, is there any item/toy that makes you not swim in the shallow water? I vaguely remember using something in legion for it.

runic hinge
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Idk

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That’s a meme. Don’t listen to me

dusk palm
tough portal
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ah gotcha, I had tried Gamon's braid but ended up just being a tauren swimming across air kek

runic hinge
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Can get atomic recalibrator from engi and have one hour out of 12 as a different race

sullen mural
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i use it but idfk what its called

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Something Devite Something

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Deviate*

fallow acorn
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Savory Deviate Delight

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pirate or ninja

sullen mural
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See i was close

thin furnace
drifting cloud
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@gusty mirage im afraid to ask but what was in the vault

gusty mirage
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smolderon cloak

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everything else was dogshit

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well myth track helm

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but no catalyst charges

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unlucky

regal kiln
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Is the assa nerf big ?

spice spire
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No

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It’s in the pins

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Promise

regal kiln
topaz fjord
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any recommends for which item craft now

gusty mirage
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ring most value cause it comes with a socket

gray hazel
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Why did i think Pips was the best passive by far? the Sandglass sims better than it by a bit

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all a lie? hah

fluid glade
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bis profiles most likely

storm forum
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iirc, the top 3 passive trinkets, signet brand, pip's and hourglass all simmed better depending on the situation

gaunt moat
gray hazel
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Maybe. either way, im sure the 489 sandglass will be better than the 483 pip

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Although, i dont see any of the empowered buff it gives in logs

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was curious to see how often it was up

gaunt moat
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But still, what does that WA does, does it just track thistle tea charges?

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Could be it be it appears highest just because it always appears on screen. not sure.

slim pebble
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I’m about to just start rogue stacking for falls keys

tall jay
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Do we use double wafting devotion on our weapons?

storm forum
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sim yourself

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but yeah, at some point the bis profile sims like it more than sophic

rain oyster
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where can i find sims of toxicc thorny vs slimy expulsion boots?

slate crown
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I'd be curious too lol

polar gull
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retrning rogue here with possibly a dumb question, guides all say use 2 devotion enchants on weapons but the wafting writ is simming higher than devotion on one weapon, do we get DR is we use 2 or whats the deal there?

slate crown
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We go wtih sims

desert ocean
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pretty much required to go arterial this week right?

slate crown
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It is different for everyone

brisk lily
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Is the Fuu spreadsheet updated to reflect the new sin changes?

polar gull
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hai, thanks

dark token
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My tea WA is essentially your kingsbane bar WA

slate crown
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iirc the kb bar is up there with snapshots when it's active for sure

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in which case yeah that makes sense

runic hinge
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And don’t save your shiv charges for it

dark token
slate crown
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I did a couple keys already

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barely noticed raging happening at all

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was only doing 20s tho

dark token
desert ocean
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so What build are yall liking for this week then?

fallow acorn
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raging in tyrann weeks is basically nullified

dark token
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its tracking my current energy, kingsbane duration, kingsbane cooldown

runic hinge
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I did a 20 eb before work and enraging was a non factor

slate crown
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Tracking current energy is what does it typically

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Energy bar auras or energy trackers update very frequently

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When you ahve conditions/triggers based on thresholds or wahtever

gaunt moat
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i wouldn't worry too much about it though, in terms of proccessing power required.

dark token
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how do i profile the rest of my ui, do i need another addon

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i just deleted elvui and im optimizing everything

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or is there a built in addon perf command

slate crown
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I don't know how but yo ucan't use WAs for it

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I highly doubt there's a built in command

spice gull
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Got two piece on my ass rogue finally

slim pebble
fallow acorn
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lol

spice gull
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Debated on putting it down for a bit since it isnt my main character

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and the playstyle has been hard to learn akin to boomy

atomic swallow
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Is there a possibility to stop details from resetting when pressing vanish at the training dummies bipsCat

prisma monolithBOT
slate crown
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Then right click your details header and select dynamic overall

atomic swallow
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Thank you Cozy

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Thought these numbers couldn’t be correct because I suck

raven acorn
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lol, yeah vanishing at 3sec for KB results in some wild dps numbers without dynamic overall damage enabled

lofty junco
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finaly tmrw 4pc. how much will 4pc increase raid and m+ damage?

tough portal
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Atomic Recalibrator didn't do the trick kek , will try deviate delight next time.

lofty junco
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fiddy?

cedar hatch
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AT LAST BOYS I GOT IT

tough portal
lofty junco
south wing
astral wraith
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What is the reason for the change from stats to crit and haste?

orchid pewter
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good evening, is there somebody with the branch timer drawing on hand?

runic hinge
orchid pewter
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tyvm

south wing
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nice to see a fan

raven acorn
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i do ui/ux for work and by far thats better than anything i have ever created lol

orchid pewter
lofty junco
balmy condor
simple stratus
balmy condor
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aight fine I'll fucking re-order the trinkets

cedar hatch
static hedge
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
lofty junco
crystal sparrow
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anybody know the actual stat breakpoints

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cant find them

deep radish
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Is the APL updated on rogue nerfs in sims?`

slate crown
prisma monolithBOT
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There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Mast = Crit = Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs like Witherbark's Branch and Wafting Devotion can often de-value the stat in question. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

balmy condor
slim hamlet
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branch D tier confirmed

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o7

balmy condor
crystal sparrow
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so there is no limit on how much crit u want

deep radish
limpid ridge
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Nani, my Fall Key doesnt fill instantly HUH

storm forum
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you want crit until the sims tell you that you want other stats

balmy condor
balmy condor
lofty junco
deep radish
lunar helm
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This is random from a couple days ago, but are there any other mechancis on bosses you have noticed turning it off helps with? Sometimes the larodar Blazing Throns are very difficult to see compared to some streams I have seen, for example

storm forum
#

today sandglass simmed higher for me than signet brand at equal ilvl and i am concerned

slim hamlet
#

why does the no scent m+ build actually feel good

raven acorn
#

i'm torn for 2nd trinket between sandglass and ashes, double onuse it wonk'y but having the bulk agi on the KBs between DM/KB is nice

storm forum
#

probably because scent just gives stats and no cp or energy

stable flint
#

are there any scenarios where ashes of embersoul is better then branch?

limpid ridge
#

Because youre smelly and no scent helps with that

runic hinge
slim hamlet
storm forum
green apex
#

I've got Pip and Ashes. Saw the Cataclysm thingy in my vault. It sims worse than both on st and aoe.

Is bloodmallet wrong re; it's ranking?

slim hamlet
#

This build is less energy in aoe?

stable flint
#

cuz i have branch but still seeing echo rogues and liquid rogues runing with ashes of embersoul while having branch in bag even after world first race is over

gaunt tree
raven acorn
#

branch is jsut kinda awkward in heavy aoe wher u can't see the orbs very easily so i feel like value gets lost occassionally

storm forum
#

part of it is brain power. branch is better numerically, but requires you to pick up orbs which can distract you from mechanics.

cedar hatch
#

🙂

thorn fjord
#

Hey guys QQ

slim hamlet
#

Aint no one is looking at the actual orbs

#

inting yourself

thorn fjord
#

Would i use gear compare to see which upgraded piece of gear has the highest value out of all my stuff?

slim hamlet
storm forum
#

no shot someone made a WA to help pick up orbs lmao

slim hamlet
#

why the fuck would u not have that

#

makes it easy mode

storm forum
#

lmao

runic hinge
slim hamlet
#

Haven't seen anyone use that wa and complain about branch

runic hinge
#

Like crests and flightstones

storm forum
#

ok ill grab that WA when branch finally drops for me

thorn fjord
balmy condor
runic hinge
runic hinge
#

Will probably end up better when I get further in heroic

manic matrix
#

got it on my last key of the week feelscryman one more in vault tomorrow and I'm running to a casino to all in red

storm forum
#

I didnt realize signet brand was time dependent but that makes sense

limpid moth
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
storm forum
#

explains why sometimes my sims preferred sandglass

gentle belfry
#

Coins?.... Sadge

violet hollow
#

also u need more haste gear when putting sandglass off

runic hinge
quiet oar
runic hinge
green apex
#

Zoom

runic hinge
#

I’m so fast

gentle belfry
storm forum
quiet oar
#

Its considered bis

violet hollow
#

okay u need some more crit and mastery nvm 😄

uncut vapor
#

what are you guys macroing your augment rune into?

slate crown
gentle belfry
gentle belfry
runic hinge
#

My crit is higher in raid

gaunt moat
#

just click on WA, done.

quiet oar
storm forum
#

y'all have money for that?

quiet oar
#

Its very high up

quiet oar
#

For alts

#

No

storm forum
#

damn, must be nice

uncut vapor
#

just boost some keys

runic hinge
#

I made my first million last season

runic hinge
#

So I do

storm forum
#

nice

#

i gambled all my gold away

spice spire
runic hinge
storm forum
#

disc cat lanli also died inside after 300 pulls of holy

spice spire
#

True

errant hawk
#

hi guys, someone know how to remove the deadly/amplifying/atrophying poison above the target ? pls

halcyon charm
#

how good is Nick of Time for us? i only have 2 set and i have a helm in my vault that i could take for 3 but i also have Nick of time in there.. any thoughts?

slate crown
#

NoT is just bis for us

storm forum
#

if the nick of time is myth track take it, its giga bis forever

slate crown
#

Ilvl in mainhand can be better if you have a higher one

#

but offhand it's nick all day

#

Esp if you get myth track in vault that's 100% the pick

atomic swallow
#

What does the extra stat do on NoT if you mind me asking?

halcyon charm
#

it is myth track.. so just take it huh? i can always farm tier this week.

gusty mirage
#

without question

wanton nest
#

you take it

slate crown
#

log off discord

#

go into wow

#

and take it

#

now

wanton nest
#

tier is easy myth nick may be one time chance

halcyon charm
#

10-4, thanks gang

slim pebble
#

If you take anything else lll make a ticket to have your rogue deleted

slate crown
#

Congrats

gusty mirage
#

got your bis mh for the rest of the tier for assassination and sub

#

and your bis oh for outlaw

quaint nova
#

Hey, I wanted to ask you lot for some guidance for my performance, if that is allowed here
My normal parses are okay, around the 75 mark, but my ilvl parses are always like 40 lower than that, if anyone has the time, I would really appreciate any pointers on what I am doing wrong:)
Here is a log of my heroic prog from today https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/daMD3qgVrRQJAwpW

past oracle
#

is there anything we can macro mydas or on use trinkets to

gusty mirage
#

whatever you want, mydas you slam on cd

#

you can macro it to mutilate if you want to

past oracle
#

ty

violet hollow
#

not on bosses like smolderon

gusty mirage
#

please don't play mydas on smolderon

#

but yes you would use it for intermissions

spice spire
runic hinge
safe patrol
#

thoughts on going outlaw loot spec if I got double nick of time 483? sadly just missed out on mythic thorncaller in vault since we had an unfortunate incident last pull on council . like to do some outlaw keys here and there

shy pecan
flat kindle
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
slim pebble
#

If you have myth track Nick I’d say it’s fine. If you only have hero I wouldn’t

safe patrol
#

yy cheers

#

kinda agree

#

will open the weekly dungeon cache as outlaw might I high roll

fast fog
#

Crit/Mastery cape. thinkge

ember mural
north jetty
#

Is porcelain crab worth using over hourglass in m+?

lofty junco
#

with 4PC i pool until full energy and then chain as many envenoms as i can? do i want to go into kb/SD/DM with full cp and energy as well then?

slim pebble
green apex
#

!pooling

prisma monolithBOT
#

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

  • If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
  • Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
  • Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
  • With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use
outer cairn
#

Let's motherfucking GO!

green apex
#

Did you yelll in your house be honest

outer cairn
#

I tapped my feet in excitement cause I'm also on the phone with my kids LOL

atomic swallow
#

Huge gratz

runic hinge
outer cairn
#

ha

fallow dune
#

Whats the move for M+ build? Running this atm

outer cairn
#

that's the move

willow vine
#

Not rly noticing blindside nerf

#

Or kingsbane tbh

lofty junco
#

i mean its a overall 3-4% only

#

whats are the new m+ affixes?

slate crown
#

tyran storm rag

willow vine
#

ye for blindside i meant more of the proccing side of things

fallow dune
willow vine
#

I feel liek that shit is popping off for me every mut lol

outer cairn
#

I mean the only other thing in my vault worth taking would be that mythic chest piece to catalyst, which we don't even have a charge this week so

lofty junco
slate crown
#

raging yeah

outer cairn
runic hinge
#

Bruh I had blindside proc 6 times in a row and the mob was not in execute. What nerf xd

lofty junco
#

I'm on EU so only get new stuff tmrw

runic hinge
#

Kb was noticeably smaller in the one m+ I got in tho

#

Probably switching to hybrid

lofty junco
robust scaffold
#

It’s so irrelevant this week. It’s tyran raging. I did two 22s and a 23 today and it’s just such a non issue

#

If it was fort raging okay

dark token
#

raging doesnt matter

#

when tyran

#

ye

robust scaffold
#

Everything is dying instantly lmao

lofty junco
#

damn I'm not looking forward doing rise on tyran....

#

always fucking up morchie

copper hazel
#

turn off name plates>open eyes>win

runic hinge
#

Just step behind her

#

You have so much time

#

If you guess wrong press cloak

lofty junco
#

yeah but morchie is so small its a bit hard to see the hat

copper hazel
#

there is no hat

runic hinge
#

If you guess wrong again after cheat and press health potion

copper hazel
#

thats the thing

lofty junco
#

yeah i meant to see the difference

#

feels like i need to zoom in completly to see any difference between the heads

royal lantern
#

jusf stop thinking and afk follow the group

#

that way you are not the only guy doing it wrong in the worst case

boreal raven
#

refreshing rupture in opener after SD or sendin only envenoms?

limpid ridge
#

Ok but how did I heal myself more than what the healer healed me

robust scaffold
limpid ridge
runic hinge
lofty junco
robust scaffold
#

You have shadowstep for when ur group inevitably gets it right, no?

#

Is there something I’m missing about how intimidating this boss is?

lofty junco
robust scaffold
#

This is like the easiest boss across all the dungeons…

#

Damn LMAO

royal lantern
#

if the healer dies, its over anyway

#

not your Problem anymore

lofty junco
#

he got cr 2 times

gaunt sigil
#

Lambet armor kit is consistenly simming 150ish dps higher than Fierce armor kit. Is it worth the stam loss or is it sim bait?

arctic current
#

Wont be griefing my shivs to remove raging... Perfect cd timings only

lofty junco
#

even got baited into playing outlaw for that dungeon. since someone told me outlaw can reduce cloak CD with restless blade

woven ruin
#

There is no issues with macroing shiv with DM, correct?

tardy blade
balmy condor
robust scaffold
#

is it just a rogue thing or a WoW PvE'r thing to always wanna macro every ability?

balmy condor
#

It’s an everyone thing

#

But rogues heavily

tardy blade
#

I mean, if I can macro something with 0 loss in performance, I send that every time

muted fox
#

is it normal for my sim to want me to grab vers when im sub 3k mastery

gaunt sigil
#

Can I macro Death mark onto mutilate to use on cd speedrave

robust scaffold
#

I felt like there was much less of that when I was maining WW in previous seasons and I was in the Peak of Serenity discord

muted fox
#

told me to craft haste vers ring instead of haste mastery ring

gaunt sigil
robust scaffold
balmy condor
#

I remember one guy who told me he has each one of his CC buttons to 3 buttons for each of the 3 targets in arena

robust scaffold
#

I love WoW so much guys ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! I love all of us ! ! ! ! ! !

balmy condor
#

And I wanted to actually shoot myself

#

Cause holy fuck

gaunt sigil
#

wow

#

Thats insane

robust scaffold
somber sparrow
robust scaffold
#

no no that is common with the PvErs that actually use the 12-button mice

#

that is the meta for years lmao

balmy condor
#

But he also has kidney 1,2,3

#

And cheap 1,2,3

robust scaffold
#

oh okay that's sickening

#

blind, step-kick, are all macros

#

for all 3 arena targets

#

genuinely

desert ocean
#

how do you have enough buttons?

balmy condor
#

If it were just blind, fine

#

But he had it for legit all his buttons

arctic current
#

Infinite mouse buttons

balmy condor
#

Kick, kidney, blind, sap, cheap shot

static glacier
runic hinge
#

I know people who just use modifiers for each target shift1 alt2 control3

static glacier
#

to have an entire bind dedicated

robust scaffold
#

yeah they use the 12 button mice and then Shift+all of them, Ctrl+all of them, Alt+all of them, Q, E, R, Shift+Q,E,R, etc. like wdym there's dozens of possible binds

#

y'all never seen the video of pikaboo getting a donation asking him to play an entire arena match with only his MOUSE hand and he wins it?

gusty mirage
static glacier
#

I have the same mouse 🙂

robust scaffold
#

LMFAO fr

gusty mirage
#

shame iCUE is a giant piece of shit

robust scaffold
#

yeah fuck that shit

worn oriole
#

anyone know why Bloodmallet shows wafting as a huge dps increase when Sophic sims higher on raidbots?

pale wave
#

razer's is better

static glacier
#

icue legit 24/7 buggy

gaunt sigil
#

I use the Razer naga pro but I only use the 6 botton side for it

gusty mirage
#

then again all peripheral software is a giant piece of shit

slim pebble
#

I used to have that but has to go back to Logitech G502

robust scaffold
#

I have to use iCUE for my CPU cooler sadgecry

desert ocean
runic hinge
static glacier
#

I love when it just stops functioning mid key

gusty mirage
#

it's pretty sick

static glacier
#

and suddenly I can't press kingsbane or shadow dance anymore

slim pebble
arctic current
#

Razer mouse is such a piece of crap but im just too used to the buttons

gaunt sigil
#

Ive personally never had issues with any razer mice

robust scaffold
#

let's make a guide for people to understand how simming works

#

@balmy condor get on it baby

gaunt sigil
#

My original Razer Naga Hex for like 10 years without issues

balmy condor
#

!simguide

prisma monolithBOT
#

Guide to Simming yourself: https://www.wowhead.com/how-to-use-raidbots-sims-stat-weights

For more accurate results you should always sim yourself using Top Gear for gear you already have in your bags
or Droptimizer to see which content drops the biggest upgrade for you. Do not use Stat Weights sims to evaluate gear.

robust scaffold
#

LMFAOOOOO

balmy condor
#

I’m that quick

worn oriole
mystic osprey
#

I cannot do damage this week bro

#

trash dies so quick

robust scaffold
#

just cut to the DPS CDs faster

balmy condor
outer cairn
#

well shit. I have a 483 nick and a 476 nick. I could craft a dagger, but I'm pretty sure a 476 nick in the OH beats any of the other daggers so I don't know what I should craft

balmy condor
#

Even if you got fully funneled mythic gear and you’re the most geared rogue in the world you wouldn’t even have the crests for that shit

outer cairn
#

a belt with flavor pocket?

balmy condor
#

Rings are good

#

Belts are good

outer cairn
#

I have Ring of Contempt maxed. I just need the other ring from BRH

mystic osprey
#

im gonna craft a dagger this week if this dungeon dont give nick

balmy condor
#

You actually make my skin crawl

#

It’s like nails on a chalkboard

spice spire
rotund oak
#

!guide

outer cairn
#

i mean there is a bis list so obviously shooting for those things. running my droptimizer see what it says

past forum
mystic osprey
#

shit i needa do droptimise rfor raid this week

#

ty

outer cairn
#

hmm.

shy pecan
#

If you can/will get access to all the items available, sure, BiS lists are great. But if not... Kinda pointless. peeposhrug

outer cairn
#

actually it says that a 486 crafted dagger is better than the 476 nick

balmy condor
neat rain
#

:c I feel the blindside nerfs

outer cairn
#

You made the list!

neat rain
#

It was only 5% PogO

balmy condor
tawdry crypt
#

If i got a mirror from vault but I cant proc mastery I should just use branch instead right

mystic osprey
#

branch is bis

#

branch is op

balmy condor
#

If you’re trying to get in shape you go to the gym and workout, you don’t copy the training regiment of an Olympic bodybuilder

outer cairn
#

Good analogy

#

But I don't bodybuild anyways

#

crossfit

#

😉

balmy condor
#

Trying to ride my bike with my buddy for a hour or two, gonna take steroids like lance armstrong

fleet patrol
#

So thats how u become bis

mystic osprey
outer cairn
#

Yeah but do you know who won the first tour de france?

#

10th panzer division

past forum
#

tryin to bike ride a bit so imma cut off my nut

fleet patrol
#

I like when someone posts exactly wt gear i need

desert ocean
fleet patrol
#

Wait we need the legendary axe

#

Fuck i passed on it

desert ocean
#

yes, its required to play the spec

outer cairn
#

would be a great xmog, but since daggers are like the only thing that can't share appearances with other weapon types

fleet patrol
#

I hope it does in the guide i follow strictly

mystic osprey
#

anyone here a blacksmith

fleet patrol
#

Thats not in the guide sadly

drifting cedar
#

hey guys can someone pls help me real quick on this Gnarloot mythic fight

#

why am I so shit when I think I did everything decent

violet plaza
#

Caustic padding too low

slate crown
steady widget
#

Why does assa rog not play with poison bomb anymore?

drifting cedar
unreal epoch
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
manic quartz
#

i hope vault gonna bless me tomorrow since its Finnish independence day🇫🇮

distant plinth
manic quartz
#

wdym

drifting cedar
steady widget
#

that spreadsheet doesnt answer the question

#

xD

#

it gives me talents, sure

#

but why?

#

did it get nerfed?

manic quartz
#

no? and we do play pb

steady widget
#

in ST yes

#

not m+

manic quartz
#

yes we do, there is multiple builds you know

steady widget
#

Is KB the one w/o?

#

if yes then why would u play pb

#

if its worse

jaunty warren
#

There are at least 2 m+ builds

manic quartz
#

there is like 5

steady widget
#

there is 2*

manic quartz
#

😄

languid glade
steady widget
#

have u seen the spreadsheet u literally just posted?

manic quartz
#

have you checked the pins?

#

Also i didnt post any spreadsheet

dense stirrup
#

Hey guys, whats is the perfect stats for rogue assassin?

steady widget
#

w/e pb is strictly worse then the other builds yes?=

fallow canopy
#

!wa

light jacinth
#

@earnest remnant

#

bro

#

this is cursed

keen spruce
jaunty warren
light jacinth
keen spruce
#

i got a pippers

dark token
light jacinth
#

yeh that would be real tough

#

but id def take the nick

dark token
#

i guess this is a harder choice

light jacinth
#

psure im just taking branch

#

cause i can at least get the other 2 again

dark token
#

branch is rarer to see

#

yeah

light jacinth
#

from raid

#

ye

dark token
#

but signet is more dam for you maybe rn

#

we dont have a single signet from norm hc or mythic

#

so im like #4 on the list for it

thorn fjord
#

So is there no way to "Droptimize" my on hand gear?

fallow canopy
#

thoughts on the unethical crafting of 486 legs with the toxic patch?

thorn fjord
#

Trying to figure out what to upgrade first for most value

dark token
#

why legs

red cloak
#

when yall take arterial precision, do you use it on mobs even without kingsbane or do you always save it for kingsbane

dark token
dark token
fallow canopy
balmy condor
#

Legs would be the slot to craft

#

But seems real min-max for no good reason tbh

old halo
#

anyone use this trinket? am i doing something wrong, the damage is so low

limpid ridge
#

2 Fall runs, 2 times the same boots

red cloak
#

okay maybe its bc the keys i been doing were low so everything dies too quick to justify kingsbane but on higher keys when you have time yeah im assuming pick the prio kill target and kingsbane shiv

limpid ridge
dark token
#

sub/outlaw are much more picky with stats and want to replace tier helm with something else

#

sin doesnt really care stats that much

mystic osprey
#

anyone need haste

dark token
#

for for better multispeccing between specs i would craft helm over legs

#

depending on which spec u multispec more make it crit mast or crit vers

fallow canopy
gusty mirage
dark token
#

u can offset the vers on the helm + legs with other pieces for sin

#

like use no vers rings/neck

#

and its not like vers is bad for sin anyway

red cloak
#

we didnt get a catalyst charge this week right

mystic osprey
gusty mirage
red cloak
#

ugh I just got a 480 chest too

old halo
gusty mirage
#

ye its kinda jank

languid moth
#

has anyone ever experienced Raibots just adding PI to your quick sim even when the box isnt checked?

brisk lily
#

How much of a dps loss is it to have somewhat shitty uptime on Sanguine blades?

#

I feel like unless my procs are great my uptime on it is pretty shit during the filler rotation

#

Unless I'm trying too hard with my envenom uptime, and i should let it fall off more?

limpid ridge
#

Dont play around it

sick abyss
#

Whats the quickest way to get sparks?

summer light
#

Why do neither of our bis rings have mastery?

gusty mirage
#

cause branch gives you a metric ton of mastery

languid moth
manic matrix
#

diminishing return I guess peeposhrug

past forum
#

Something something theoretical bis isn’t necessarily your personal bis something something sim urself

summer light
#

ahhhh

willow kite
#

If other pieces have tons of mastery, it'll likely reduce the value of mastery on rings - same for all stats

#

which is why the correct answer is always to just sim yourself

#

for a given purpose and build

#

branch is usually a common theme when less mastery on gear is a thing, since it gives so much

burnt venture
#

What we crafting this week lads?

slate crown
#

I'm doing ring

gusty mirage
#

def a ring angle

#

free socket is lorj

slate crown
#

Also gimme flavor pocket back

gaunt moat
#

can you put flavor pocket on ring?

#

cauase i'm thinking on crafting cloak for it

past forum
#

Yeh

shy pecan
slate crown
#

Yeah, can't put it on ring-bound

#

just signet

gaunt moat
#

But i dunno, some of the rings that drop are really good.
cloak has less stats, wouldn't it be better to craft cloak?

arctic hare
#

Got myself a flavor pocket, so i’m still kind of on the fence.

sick abyss
#

how are you guys obtaining your spark this week? mine isnt dropping for some odd reason

coral shard
#

Just picked assa up this morning, what would be the reason for my low Caustic Spatter damage?

arctic hare
#

I actually haven’t simmed yet.

kindred flower
#

why my caustic isnt hitting hard?

arctic hare
coral shard
#

ye

kindred flower
#

me too

arctic hare
#

Are you maintaining SnD?

kindred flower
#

only hit 90k as max damage with spatter

arctic hare
#

Okay that is low.

gaunt moat
coral shard
#

Im just trying a 40 second opener so I would think so

arctic hare
willow kite
coral shard
#

Like target dummy 40 seconds

#

compared to sims

arctic hare
#

Oh lol, okay

gaunt moat
willow kite
#

Cause if it's just stats you're prolly looking at rnging 2x socketed 489 rings with correct stats before you replace signet

gaunt moat
storm forum
#

hi friends, does anyone have that WA that I can click to use my aug rune?

storm forum
#

ty