assassination

[hollow stone]

a lot of ppl leave all the buffs on when simming and then when they go hit a dummy are like "why am I missing x amount of dps??" so make sure you have all buffs turned off in the advanced sim options at the bottom if you're gonna try to compare sim to hitting a dummy/dummies

[velvet marten]

Ya na im doing something wrong i guess
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pEhT57TU8gFSZoskMFwCFY

[hollow stone]

one thing that will sway it that I know of right away is vanish -- you cant vanish on dummies

but you can also see that your % breakdown is different from the sim % breakdown

[cinder quartz]

there's that one option tick you can do

idk the command to bring it up

[hollow stone]

TLDR; your garr is doing way less dam than it should be

[cinder quartz]

but details its somehting like "Dynamic Overall"

[scarlet orbit]

yea if you use dynimic overall dmg you can vanish on dummys without resetting the dmg meter

[cinder quartz]

looks like you just need to focus more on maintaining garrote and rupture

on big packs maintaining them sucks balls

but that's sin life

[limber lion]

Yeh Garrote should be higher, Spatter should be higher

[velvet marten]

in a 5 stack what number em i lookin @ per target like set of Gor and Rup on 2 -4 -5?

[limber lion]

You garrote/rupture everything

[thorn fjord]

Can you exchange the FR currency for FlightStones?

[hollow stone]

I think the side by side should really help illustrate the differences in breakdown

[velvet marten]

interesting seem i dont have enough time before shit falls off on the 4th one.

[hollow stone]

look at the % of the dmg breakdown, not the raw numbers

[cinder quartz]

so dummy is 6 mobs right? i forget exactly. but you open with garrote (garrote is now active on 3), tab to a non-garroted mob to garrote (garrote is now active on 6), rupture the same target, FoK to 4 cp, rupture a non-ruptured (rupture is now on all 6), mutilate a target to apply spatter, FoK to 4+ for Crimson Tempest, then KB your spatter target.

[hollow stone]

5 mobs in valdr

[velvet marten]

it's 5 3 infront 2 in back

[cinder quartz]

yeah so you don't even have to tab target, can just stick on your main target

[wide whale]

dont you have to, to spread ruptures?

or can you just rupture the same guy

oh i guess i can

[plain onyx]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[hollow stone]

garrs and rupts are smart, they will prio enemies in range that are not dotted
with carnage, each push dots 3 things (main target +2)
if you double garr the main target, each time 2 new mobs will be garr'd
so if it's 5t, you can double garr the main target and all 5t will be garr'd

[static crystal]

Does the WA track the number of ruptures rolling so you know if you've got the 5x Scent of Blood buff?

[cinder quartz]

1. garr->garr for garrote applications
2. rup->mut->fok->rup for rup applications & spatter
3. fok->CT for CT
   KB spatter target and have fun for the next 20 seconds (Save vanish if pack will live long so you can do another set of the first 2 steps)

[wide whale]

does everyone use Q and E as keybinds?

[cinder quartz]

i unbound QE from strafe, but never put anything on them xd

[hollow stone]

I would say more people DO NOT use Q and E than DO use them

[wide whale]

i've spent 19 years using them to strafe, i finally unbound them last night, had a rough time in my first M+

[hollow stone]

but like, keybindings

everyone's keybindings are weird to everyone else

you do you

[cinder quartz]

Q = /dance

[static crystal]

I've spent 19 years with a and d as strafe and q and e as binds

[wide whale]

yep definitely, but i think QER are too valuable to give up as binds

so im just gonna struggle my way through lol

[hollow stone]

I'd rather bind A and D than Q and E

[velvet marten]

I use Q | Shift-Q | E | Shift-E |Shift Z | Z | Shift X | X| Shift-C | C

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1180129404031082546/dagger.webp

[hearty reef]

thoughts on dropping stratagem in keys? has it been discussed anywhere

[static crystal]

I've got alt and shift bound to my mouse so my modifiers are easy to reach.

[thorny pond]

For Acro?

[hearty reef]

for tea

[vivid seal]

hey guys is it worth pooling 50+ energy outside KB and opener for Sanguine blades?

[hollow stone]

need acro build for nymue plz

[wide whale]

honestly I just dont think I have the brain capacity for this spec sometimes

[hollow stone]

(:

[wide whale]

in big pulls, when there's lots to pay attention to, my rotation just falls apart

[thorny pond]

Why does everyone need acro?

[hollow stone]

just for nymue plz

🙂

[thorny pond]

It's a DPS loss to drop tea or strat

[hearty reef]

utility for kicks ccs

[thorny pond]

all yall acting like 3" is a lot

[hollow stone]

joking aside, agree, it's just not worth taking acro ever

[thorny pond]

I feel bad for your GFs

[hollow stone]

but my god do I wish we could for nymue

[cinder quartz]

don't pool for builders, only pool for spenders

ever

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[vivid seal]

Thanks!

[cinder quartz]

The concept might be counterintuitive but you can think of it as you're trading sang blade ticks for mutilate damage & cp

[vivid seal]

how does waiting for envenom to be 1 sec proc tier?

[static crystal]

Rupture and garrote only smart target during IC, right? So for long duration fights when IC fades, you have to tab to add ruptures, yes?

[limber lion]

Yes

[kind hare]

You could use mouse over macros

[static crystal]

Yeah, mouseover rupture, for sure. Does affenar show how many Scent of Blood stacks you have? So you know if you have your 5 ruptures rolling?

[kind hare]

! wa

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[kind hare]

The Whispyr edit yes

[limber lion]

No clue, Whispyr's does yeah

[static crystal]

Perfect, ty

[vivid seal]

you mind explaining how envenom around 1 sec procs tier?

[limber lion]

You using Envenom during the Envenom buff procs 4p

[cinder quartz]

4p makes envenom* do more damage if it is casted on a target with envenom. so your goal is to never let envenom drop. more envenoms is good, but it's better in low energy scenarios to just make sure you never lose the potential to proc your 4 piece

[limber lion]

Well

4p itself doesn't do any damage

And Envenom is a buff, not a debuff on a target

[static glacier]

anyone worked how how bad we have to be with 4pc for TTK to be worth

over imp poison?

[vivid seal]

so your pooling energy to make sure you keep envenom buff on target

[limber lion]

TTK is always bad

[eternal nymph]

It's a buff on you

Not a debuff on target

[cinder quartz]

in short, yes.

[vivid seal]

on me yeah

kk makes sense. Thanks

[eternal nymph]

And you don't need to use it last second. As long as you envenom in pandemic all is good

[vivid seal]

that's 1 seconds right?

[limber lion]

No

Pandemic is 30% of the applied duration

[cinder quartz]

pandemic timer will depend on how many cp but idk the exact timer for each lol

[static glacier]

if sure if someone somehow had only 50% of env's triggering 4pc it would be good

[vivid seal]

got it

[next flint]

A question I saw that assa got nerfed but since I don’t know the class and spec very mouch still how bad are the nerfs for assa

[cinder quartz]

4 cp = 1.2s
5 cp = 1.5s
6 cp = 1.8s

[limber lion]

But that's not the talents fault

[vivid seal]

thanks everyone

[limber lion]

The talent is still terrible

just play better

[static glacier]

im not saying im gonna take ttk

[cinder quartz]

pins has the numbers

[static glacier]

im actually just curious

at what env uptime it would become worth

since unlike last patch its not guaranteed 95%+ anymore

[limber lion]

4p procs =/= Envenom uptime

It's not the same thing

[static glacier]

yes ofc

but env uptime directly leads to 4pc procs

[limber lion]

No it does not

[static glacier]

hard to have env uptime without procs unless you're like

waiting for it to drop

[limber lion]

You can have very very high Envenom uptime and never proc 4p

if you reapply Envenom right after the previous one drops

[next flint]

Umm the nerfs don’t seem that bad am I wrong

[limber lion]

That's correct

They're not that bad

[hollow stone]

doomers gonna doom, but they arent that bad

[icy acorn]

like 4,4% less sims

[next flint]

Kk

[cinder quartz]

considering where sin wsa before it's totally fine

[icy acorn]

but what does that mean on a raid with so many dmg amps

[hollow stone]

sub stonks

: )

[icy acorn]

sub was already equal/better than assa at the last 3

[cinder quartz]

weihnachtsmarc is a good name

grats on that

[icy acorn]

:)

[real pike]

Is it just me or do the new tier trousers look utter wank

[jaunty phoenix]

boss dmg is not even close on last 2

[neat plank]

no the boots look stupid, the rest is fine

[icy acorn]

we are padding here sir

[lethal heart]

ye its a known fact people play IC + CT (crimson tempest) on last 2

[real pike]

hmm

btw guys what's ttk? I'm a noob

twist the knife?

[slim pebble]

Sub feels like ass to play outside of cooldowns

[icy acorn]

sub feels like ass to play outside of smolderon

[gusty mirage]

Sub feels fine tbh. Dust kinda cringe but it is what it is

[icy acorn]

dust would be so much better if flag was a 2 min cd

[royal lantern]

they got you

[gusty mirage]

I like sub

I hate dust

[icy acorn]

i also cannot wait for dust to be somewhat better to play so i can go back to sub

[real pike]

Every spec is part sub now they put SD in all of them

[icy acorn]

i hate being a pi target already

[real pike]

ridiculous decision

[gusty mirage]

[limber lion]

Already? I've always hated it

pls remove ty smile

[real pike]

at least you get PI rather than having to watch the DH get it at 2 mins

[limber lion]

shadowlands ruined the game because they reintroduced pi

gg

[icy acorn]

like the worst is
if you have an udk in your raid, 1 shadow and one heal priest
you are going to get the shadow pi and on most fights it doesnt even allign well and youre basicly getting fake pi

[limpid ridge]

I was today years old that I found out ./sleep does shit in the raid lmao

[slate crown]

Well, take a look through them and see what they are doing :). I can explain but try to study them a bit first

[icy acorn]

atleast my shadow priest doesnt want to allign them to my DM in fights like nymue where it desyncs by like 15 seconds because of the intermission

[limber lion]

Sorry?

[gusty mirage]

Remember when they said it was a community issue and then gave the double PI leggo to every spec?

And made an entire support spec?

[surreal citrus]

I just make a macro to spam dms to my priest when I've pressed dm

[icy acorn]

id rather see that than getting pi while i cant use DM because KB is still on cd for 10 seconds

[gusty mirage]

Yeah getting PI early is actually a waste

[icy acorn]

getting pi outside of DM+KB is like not getting a pi at all

[gusty mirage]

At that point just PI the BM hunter

[icy acorn]

yes

[cinder quartz]

macro a whisper into your death mark 🧠

[real pike]

I can't stealth when there's a shade on anyone

is that because I have a dot on it

[icy acorn]

i cant macro the cast into a shadow priests brain

[gusty mirage]

Well they’re playing shadow in December of 2023, they clearly can’t macro their brain properly either

[surreal citrus]

perform cognitive behavioural therapy on your priests

[icy acorn]

asked him if he can wait 15 seconds on nymue because it desyncs by like 15 seconds

[trail locust]

Shadow good

[cinder quartz]

nymue

[trail locust]

: )

[icy acorn]

got told "sounds like youre in no luck"

[gusty mirage]

Cope

[icy acorn]

[trail locust]

Its buffed guys

[gusty mirage]

Spriest is dogshit Kreem

[surreal citrus]

lmao

[limber lion]

No, the Shades just put everyone in combat globally because why not

[gusty mirage]

Give it 10 hours I’m sure publik will have a tweet about it

[cinder quartz]

shades are some goofy bluds. if you have one mob left and no shades up? you can stealth as it spawns

[gusty mirage]

Get Viklund on the twitter rant as well

Unite the shadow priest community

[trail locust]

Viklund always believes in shadow

[icy acorn]

this week my vanish is reserved for garrote/rupture spread

[surreal citrus]

same tbh

[limber lion]

just vanish bro

[gusty mirage]

NOCCO the guild of one tricks, Cev and viklund

[surreal citrus]

unless it's on a boss but eh

[icy acorn]

yeah but you usually have it back up for the next pack then

[gusty mirage]

Cev come back to me

Pls

[trail locust]

Nice 2 one tricks

[gusty mirage]

I miss us

[icy acorn]

or "only" 1min delay

[limber lion]

That's why I left Method, had to play warrior and mage as well...

[surreal citrus]

yeah

[gusty mirage]

[limber lion]

Assa rogue only please thank you

[gusty mirage]

I salute your dedication

[icy acorn]

why do you have sublety as a rank then?

liar

[trail locust]

Hmmmmm

[gusty mirage]

This man theorycrafted the most scuffed snapshotting tech to avoid sub in sepulcher

[limber lion]

wtf why is this icon here now

but this is up here

why is it different

????????????????

[gusty mirage]

All rogues were ele shaman the other day

[limber lion]

I bet it wasn't like this yesterday

[gusty mirage]

Wcl is more scuffed than American healthcare bro

[limber lion]

because this hurts my eyes for some reason

[icy acorn]

warcraftlogs is having a stroke for some days

[limber lion]

Oh ya I think there wasn't any icon at all yesterday next to the ranks

now they added a spec icon

[trail locust]

Too many gamers online

[limber lion]

On the Best % column

[trail locust]

Cant handle it

[limber lion]

What is the spec icon for

if you only play one spec

[gusty mirage]

Kreem, are you 4k IO yet

[limber lion]

[trail locust]

Yeah 4.5k

[gusty mirage]

Gamer

[trail locust]

Maybe 5 or 5.5k today

[gusty mirage]

Easily

[trail locust]

We will have to see after raid

[gusty mirage]

I believe

[trail locust]

Nice

[gusty mirage]

[icy acorn]

yeah im also at 8k rio already

[limber lion]

I'm glad I don't have to prog Tindral

[trail locust]

No one is...

Liar

[icy acorn]

easily timed some +40 keys

[trail locust]

Tindral slaps

[gusty mirage]

People will lie to you and say it’s fun

See?

[limber lion]

smh

[trail locust]

Stockholm syndrome already got me

[gusty mirage]

Lmao

[trail locust]

[limber lion]

The best iteration of Assassination*

[icy acorn]

larodar mythic has to be the most unfun encounter

[gusty mirage]

[gusty mirage]

I’d rather prog larry for 24 hours straight than 2 hours of tindral

Unironically

[gray crest]

Larodar is super unfun when the ranged run faster than the melee and cover the room with fire

[trail locust]

Hell nah

[gusty mirage]

Larry good boss

[spice spire]

?

[trail locust]

Both good

[gusty mirage]

Except when your tanks like to keep him in fire

It’s not fun then

[icy acorn]

larodar is basicly "you have cds? alright, time to run away"

[gusty mirage]

“Soak the orb” the boss is sitting on the edge of the room in fire

[limber lion]

[trail locust]

Just follow boss

[gusty mirage]

TRUE

I had some great shadowstep bangers this tier

[limber lion]

I did a HC where the boss did his giga 10s channel in Narnia

[gusty mirage]

I soaked a charge on council, and then shadow stepped the deer and got hit a 2nd time

[limber lion]

and we were just afk in the broccoli

[gusty mirage]

[limber lion]

good

[gray crest]

The healing officer in my guild said "roujin you gotta learn your position bud" for soaking orbs last raid night... He was the one out of position

[limber lion]

bloodlust popped

and we chilling

/dance

[trail locust]

Wait we had that aswell in intermission

[icy acorn]

sounds like a you problem

[brazen zodiac]

classic

[trail locust]

Boss was in lava for 15 seconds and we pop lust

[brazen zodiac]

hi oxi cxcx

[limber lion]

Yeah pretty poggington

[icy acorn]

big gains

[lethal heart]

[limber lion]

Healers yoinking lust

and for what=?

I don't see them on the damage meters...

[trail locust]

It was supposed to be for everyone

But it is what it is

[slim hamlet]

[hardy pawn]

Is ruptured treated the same as garrote when reapplied with nightstalker? Letting empowered version time out instead pandemic refreshing it?

[limber lion]

Yes

[lethal heart]

its getting nerfed on reset anyway

[trail locust]

Yeah for sure man empowered deals so much more.damage so you dont wanna ruin the damage

[lethal heart]

source: i made it up

[limber lion]

that's crazy

[wind falcon]

when is it ideal to get PI as assa? at what point during our rotation is most optimal?

[limber lion]

With KB

So like 10s into the pull

[tranquil locust]

is simming Dungeon Slice accurate reflection of m+ dps? it says my outlaw build sims higher so just wanted to confirm

[limber lion]

Not quite, it's mainly used to compare things within specs

Not really great for comparing 2 specs together

But it's still a pretty solid bet

It's very likely that your Outlaw would perform better in theory

[wind falcon]

does it snapshot KB so we have to have PI prior or does it dynamically affect the bleeds for the duration of PI?

[limber lion]

Does not matter, no haste snapshotting around here anymore

[wind falcon]

gotcha

[hushed fable]

M+ in generall has so many variables that you can't make sim accurate or reflect what you will encounter. It's just a snapshot of a fights with set amount of targets for certain amount of time.

[limber lion]

Ideal would be 1s after Deathmark, so 1s before KB

[wind falcon]

ive been asking for PI when i Deathmark

[limber lion]

Yeah that's good

[wind falcon]

kk

[limber lion]

1s reaction time

perfect

[trail locust]

When is best sub pi time

Oh shit wrong channel

[spice spire]

On the trash in between bosses

[fallow acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[spice spire]

Kreem ain’t ever baited a day in his life

[trail locust]

: )

[limber lion]

typical anime enjoyer

[trail locust]

[spice spire]

[latent gazelle]

could u tell this to my raids priest. they pi me when the pull timer hits 2

[hoary isle]

BRUH

THIS GUY NEEDS TO GET A LIFE

[trail locust]

Nice

[spice spire]

[limber lion]

wut

[ebon notch]

What you doing here

[trail locust]

Chilling

[limber lion]

better question is what are YOU doing here

[trail locust]

Asking about sub

[limber lion]

paladin players...

[ebon notch]

Preparing 👀

[trail locust]

Oh shiiit

Fotommmrouge is confirmed????

[hoary isle]

hunter discord

[spice spire]

How about you prepare to meet some bitches

[ebon notch]

I already secured one and she lives in the basement with me

[spice surge]

Well ye a quick glance at the pins will tell you that PI value didnt change much at all

[trail locust]

Classic moms basement trap

[ebon notch]

They love it

[spice spire]

Touch grass bestie

[ebon notch]

I’m prepping the rogue comeback

[limber lion]

do you need coaching again

[ebon notch]

Maybe rank 1 push again

[ebon notch]

Yes

[limber lion]

too bad

[ebon notch]

wtf

[limber lion]

jk

fotmrogue > fotmpala

[ebon notch]

I thought I paid for the lifetime subscription

[trail locust]

Unless

[ebon notch]

Ret pala is dead

I accept that blizz hates it

[spice spire]

Fotmpal is a fraud anyway

[trail locust]

Any dh coaches here??

[limber lion]

have fun playing sub

[ebon notch]

Assa is still stupid strong no?

[limber lion]

didn't you hear it got nerfed

[spice spire]

Pins bozo

[limber lion]

basically dead now

[trail locust]

LOL

[woven frost]

Don’t call us stupid

[surreal citrus]

no nerf could ever make ret players play any other spec besides ret

they're all lifers

[ebon notch]

Let’s hope everyone rerolls

Will make my life easier

Ideally Warcraft logs will do a partition also

[limber lion]

funnel me gear so I can come kill Fyrakk

[ebon notch]

Considering all the evoker hooks are broken

[ebon notch]

I’ve heard this before

[trail locust]

Kek

[limber lion]

Not from me

[ebon notch]

Is semester over for Christmas?

[limber lion]

Idk I don't do anything at school anymore

I just chill

[spice spire]

Mf the fourth best rogue in his guild and pushing for a rank one

[ebon notch]

Lmao

[spice spire]

[limber lion]

I'm done with bachelors

[ebon notch]

Bruh

[limber lion]

masters is just pissing and shitting

[spice spire]

You’re right

Fifth

[ebon notch]

B R U H

[trail locust]

So toxic this rouge discord...

[spice spire]

I bet kreem is better

[ebon notch]

You’re my biggest op fr

[glass junco]

for council, is it worth trying to dot the 3rd boss every now and then?

[spice spire]

Yeah I’m on some mad hate today I’m ngl

[limber lion]

Too bad Ceveriontwo is still in Twisting-Nether, or he'd be 6th

[spice spire]

That’s true

[ebon notch]

I’ve lost all my street cred

I cba

[latent gazelle]

maybe cause your an Hpal?

[limber lion]

retri

[trail locust]

My rogue is almost 70 so

[ebon notch]

I’ve done more prot/holy keys than ret this tier

[spice spire]

Probably beating fotm on the meters

[trail locust]

Hpal condemned for life

[spice spire]

Even before 70

[limber lion]

Uhm, no thank you

[onyx nymph]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[ebon notch]

I’m farming an int 1h so I can heal boost raids

I’m too far gone

[trail locust]

I should join some of those

[fringe mirage]

some time my kingsbane remove from Boss is this normal:))

[young flicker]

happens to me on tindral

[limber lion]

just means you got parried

unlucky

hit boss from the back

[young flicker]

so kingsbane hitting then dropping halfway through is from parrying?

[limber lion]

Never had that happen

That shouldn't be a thing

any logs?

[young flicker]

happens in between his shapeshift form

[fringe mirage]

Thanks a lot

[tawny geyser]

Got the trinket from Smolderon, but 447 seems to sim higher, but just a bit.
Should I equip 447 or keep this one?

[tropic tundra]

egg shell proc is highly random

prob not the best choice

[tawny geyser]

So stick with Ashes

until get sandglass or smt BiS

[frosty cedar]

what is your other trinket?

[tawny geyser]

Branch

[burnt venture]

Wait

You’re saying that a 473 Ashes gets beat by a 447 Egg Shell?

Am confuse

[spice surge]

He has branch

So its a non-dm alligned ashes

So its not great

[burnt venture]

Ahhhh okay

Missed branch part

[upper spear]

do people double on-use ashes + branch in opener, or branch DM ashes solo KB

[limber lion]

People are rarely demonic enough to play both

But I'd imagine they would branch early and Ashes once it's up

for biggest, juiciest kb

[pure moth]

Im about to be a degen and play branch and ashes

[clever sapphire]

i could only imagine doing that on smolderon

[neat plank]

nightmare winds? that's what I get when I eat 4 scoops of oats instead of 3

[forest oasis]

does anyone else struggle doing 1/1/7 with branch in raids? i cant see the fucking orb

[clever sapphire]

neither do i, i just assume its behind me

[runic hinge]

Yea, I went back to using ashes instead last night

[limber lion]

There's plenty of WA's that help with that

Also it's not super exact, anything between 6-9 is fine

[jaunty lotus]

Question about the nerf: how much of a damage loss is it during our CD window? I understand it's 4.4% overall, but when we're saving CDs for a damage amp or to burst down a shield, how much worse are we at that?

[limber lion]

Well, take whatever you did with KB and reduce the number by 15%

There's no real sims or anything for that

[upper spear]

if you're eluding to not having to save your CDs for a damage window, ur cooking but it aint it.

[limber lion]

Giga burst is now big burst

[forest nacelle]

does that mean im a big boi now?

[jaunty lotus]

No, I'm wondering how much difference is there between sin and sub burst now

[strange python]

Is there anyone here that can shoot me a message on how the aoe rotation works. Like I mean really dumb it down, and explain I feel I lose a lot in translation and I think my aoe is struggling because of it. I understand the rotation to an extent. Mainly for the bigger pulls l

[jaunty lotus]

Sin had the big advantage of being able to do a lot of burst, especially onto things like tindral shield

While sub has a different damage profile useful for other things but still has some burst

[upper spear]

I imagine sin will still be top. I isolated a burst window the other night and -15% from KB and it wasnt that big of a deal

i think i lost likr 500k per KB or something like that

maybe less

[unreal heath]

anyoen got a splatter wa

[jaunty lotus]

Is that loss doubled with death mark? So 1M less damage on a death mark burst?

[upper spear]

that was with DM

[jaunty lotus]

Okay, so about 250k loss on the solo KB? That's pretty much nothing yeah

Thank you

[upper spear]

doing the math again now

[rain oyster]

Kingsbane nerf is buff in m+ at like 22s since now my prio cleave add wont die before the last 6 secs

[surreal citrus]

lmao

[jaunty lotus]

Galaxy brain. The target dying mid KB is so annoying

[upper spear]

opener KB does from 2.7 mill to 2.3mill

[forest oasis]

how to do a log review again?

[upper spear]

total dam oepner 10.8m to 10.4m

[jaunty lotus]

So about 3.8% less burst, pretty close to the overall actually

[exotic pulsar]

If you find yourself collecting it too quickly and the buff wears off before the final ticks because you're not kiting your orbs properly you can just use it a couple globals later, like maybe paired with your shiv or kingsbane or something. It's not optimized but losing the mastery buff before the last couple ticks is way worse than using the trinket later and insta collecting all orbs and guaranteeing the buff for them.

[pine dew]

Could someone check a log from me if i am doing something wrong?

[upper spear]

thats with me scuffing my KB too, noticed my final tick on this example was smaller then the previous

[rotund oak]

Did just half the servers in EU went down

what the

[stray bloom]

Yes

[tawny geyser]

Some realms went down

[plain onyx]

hell yeah and i was wondering

[pine dew]

ye all down

[tawny geyser]

Twisting Nether and Kazzak is down

[rotund oak]

ravencrest as well

[stray bloom]

Stormscale also

[plain onyx]

so is Tarren

cant connect

[tawny geyser]

Unbeliavable...just when I am supposed to have a coaching sesh with Whispyr

[sonic schooner]

Half the servers are down

Poor italians, 2/2 servers down 😔

[limber lion]

Draenor gang

[rotund oak]

whispyr is on NA though

[rain oyster]

Mama Mia!

[plain onyx]

italians got 2 servers only

?

[maiden hemlock]

Talent question - I've been typically running the hybrid build, however it looks like AP should be "standard". I also see a lot of higher keys running the "cleave" build. My group is starting to push higher keys (20s), should that be a swap over to the cleave build, or do you guys prefer AP/hybrid over that still?

[tawny geyser]

Yeah but how will I log in so he can check how I play? 😂

[limber lion]

Doesn't matter, 20's is still very low and you can play whatever you prefer.

Just think of the affixes and the dungeons that you do and make the choices based on that

[rotund oak]

does he rly do that? ;o

[tawny geyser]

Yes, coaching.

[maiden hemlock]

That's fair - with another Tyr week I didn't know if Cleave would be preferable

[limber lion]

Huh?

[sonic schooner]

@worn igloo depends mostly on what your group needs and what s the dungeon. Like everbloom is heavy aoe but rise is just single target with some cleaves

[limber lion]

Man gets paid to do coaching

[tawny geyser]

Bruh?

[rotund oak]

AH i c

[sonic schooner]

I find myself swapping talents a lot when playing assa, they re all close just doing different things kinda

[rotund oak]

nvm me

[proven jasper]

Whispyr is liked santa, he knows when you’ve been bad or good..

[sonic schooner]

Yea but does he know what the haste i should aim for?

🤡

[rotund oak]

yup that was my bad

[forest oasis]

!log nm volcoross

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[forest oasis]

[maiden hemlock]

I just like to get the best insight to what is best performing - I haven't been on my rogue since SL - I tend to be the type to want to learn all about the spec so I can understand the choices vs blindly choosing them based off of wowhead lol

[worn igloo]

Why would you ping me and bring me to this cursed place

[proven jasper]

Just equip ilvl bro there is no aiming for haste

[maiden hemlock]

Because they probably misread my username >:)

[worn igloo]

[maiden hemlock]

you're one of us now

[worn igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/meow-sad-gif-3338563791881780394

[ivory gust]

Why to garrote and ruptue in Kingsbane?

[quiet oar]

Yeah be one of us

[limber lion]

You maintain 100% uptime on Garrote/Rupture always

That's #1 priority

[pine dew]

rly?

[worn igloo]

blessed silence

[spice spire]

Not right now

It did for the longest time

[quiet oar]

The signal i get with this, is you like Iron wire because it silences

[spice spire]

And only a few log review here

[sonic schooner]

oops i type @eli and it went to you D:

[spice spire]

My ass was not ready for the fotm

[rotund oak]

[robust scaffold]

anyone have a solid log for a +22fall? I wanna know what's a good number for assass in here

[spice spire]

[naive crescent]

I've read the various wowhead/IV guides, what video guide would peeps recommend? I feel like I need a visual guide cause the rotation aint clicking for me rn

[spice spire]

Numbers vary highly on run

[robust scaffold]

I just finished at about 225 overall, does my breakdown look solid?

idk how im under this hunter, I must be the worst player in WoW history

[upper spear]

what dung

[proven jasper]

Lol

[robust scaffold]

+22fall

[lofty junco]

lol https://i.imgur.com/GMloVxC.jpeg

[robust scaffold]

look at this warrior with 450ilvl

[jaunty lotus]

@upper spear I just did the comparison between the top public log of sin and sub for volcoross. Both seem to do the burst in the first 25 seconds, which helps a lot.
Top sin parse did 14.1M, which would become 13.44M post nerf, while sin parse did 13.1M.

[robust scaffold]

there's a server shutdown @lofty junco goodnigh tbro

[lofty junco]

nope. I'm on EU. so shouldn't be a thing until like 30h later

[tawny geyser]

Poor guys 😂

[jaunty lotus]

I think going sub may be the play now

[upper spear]

ya i mean, not enough to take serious. a lot of this is gonna be if you have all the buffs, aug, and playing perfect

and w/e rng factor

[jaunty lotus]

Yes, this is the best case for both

[urban rampart]

How much dmg % should sudden demise do in dungs? I feel like I'm not getting full value out of it. Does only like 2-4% of my dmg.

[lofty junco]

well guess its not only me https://i.imgur.com/opO3zNB.png

[upper spear]

Ct looks low, and explosion and splatter. but depends on how your tank pulls.

[outer plinth]

me and some guild mates were about to start a key and we all got dced

[jaunty lotus]

But if going sub means only a 2.5% reduction in burst while not needing PI, sub is now encroaching hard on sin's burst damage profile

[forest nacelle]

just got into LFR and now the server is shutting down xD

[valid shadow]

I just rolled a 100 on a big dagger upgrade

I'm pissed if I do not get it

[lofty junco]

funny thing is, I'm on blackmoore and it even tells me there are no characters on it

[outer plinth]

2 of my friends have to accept the social contract 🤣 🤣 🤣

[rotund oak]

servers are F'd,gonna try some path of exile 😄

[lofty junco]

still 4 days until new league^^

[rotund oak]

yeah ik

BIG HYPE

[slate crown]

I just did an EB 20

On last boss, it was at like 20% and I just dc'd

[quiet oar]

[slate crown]

logged back in and i'm at the start of the instance, no group

[forest nacelle]

im on stormrage

[rotund oak]

u logged back?

[forest nacelle]

sad

[slate crown]

and I see the Key completion popup so I know they finished it off

[rotund oak]

we cant even log in the game bro

😄

[slate crown]

This was like 5 mins ago

[forest nacelle]

im still in it

xD

[slate crown]

but for some reason it removed me from group

[maiden hemlock]

laughs in NA

[slate crown]

I got GV credit but no crests

no loot

[lofty junco]

guild was just getting rdy for 2nd weekly raid

[quiet oar]

For solidarity NA should be shut down too

[outer plinth]

im able to log my alt for some reason lol

[urban rampart]

You running hybrid build?

Or is that arterial

[lofty junco]

i can#t even find any server with characters on it

[slate crown]

what if 🌐 is delete

time for a fresh start

[runic hinge]

we are

[clever sapphire]

it was nice knowing you all

[bitter crow]

https://twitter.com/BlizzardCSEU_EN

[quiet oar]

POG

I mean

Sad

[faint path]

Is Rogue nerf live on the ptr? I wanna check that out while waiting for servers

[lime crypt]

maaan

im raiding in 5 minutes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/847058904008622090.webp?size=48&name=sad&quality=lossless

[forest nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/big-oof-size-small-medium-switch-gif-17355313

[robust scaffold]

Arterial my g I have no idea what we should even be running in keys right now lol

[lime crypt]

run the secret recipe

but dont let whispyr find you

[lofty junco]

classic and retail are down^^

same with D4

[gusty mirage]

we're free

hurry

run for the hills before they catch you

[forest nacelle]

this reminds me of an R.E.M. song.

[marble hemlock]

been free for a while

our BM is streaming ff6 instead

[strange python]

Can anyone simplify the assassin aoe rotation for me. Like i feel dumb for asking. But I get caught up trying to figure out how many times i should garroting and focusing on my bleeds before I start focusing on using dance and what not. If there’s a lot of adds I get caught focusing to hard on ensuring everything has bleeds and I feel like I lose a lot of dps

[gusty mirage]

imma need you to change that 4th word in the 2nd sentence homie

@strange python

[subtle tundra]

hope it never gets up again

just like mine

[strange python]

My bad sir fixed it

[gusty mirage]

ty sir

[somber sparrow]

that's not what she said

[gusty mirage]

but to answer your question, essentially, try to get at least 2-3 garrotes and at least 5 ruptures, and after that keep up CT, and slap a kingsbane into the meaty target to get extra splatter damage

[marble hemlock]

or maybe she did?

[robust scaffold]

LMFAO

[lament adder]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[subtle tundra]

my friends was drunk and he dick checked me TWICE yesterday......

[runic hinge]

[forest nacelle]

dosen't this also depend on time of how long the adds live too?

[subtle tundra]

i understand once but why did he need to see it the second time

[forest nacelle]

if w/o CD's

[gusty mirage]

ye if the adds are about to die just bank dance and KB tbh

[runic hinge]

I need to do higher keys, the adds are always about to die

[gusty mirage]

@strange python it'll feel giga overwhelming for a while until you get comfortable with it, it's a lot of plate spinning and until it becomes muscle memory you're normal to feel like shit's hitting the fan. Esp when you play with DHs who do 1298073984712983718973981298372189 damage

[forest nacelle]

i normally run into the same problem in low keys (just started playing him again)

[gusty mirage]

homie it happens in 22s-23s too

lmao

[forest nacelle]

RIP

[gusty mirage]

DHs just do absurd fucking damage

5% aoe nerf btw

[forest nacelle]

i want to play something other than my DH XD i can't stand the rotation

its just icky.

[gusty mirage]

havoc made out like highway robbers with the tuning

it's actually wild

[humble shale]

hey lads i just came back from s1 shadowland on retail, playing assassination rogue and i was looking for some answer. I usualy strugle with my energy pool i feel like i miss something in my rota. Could you tell me if you are using envenom when you are reaching +4 combo point or are you waiting for the 6 point ? From what i saw you are using your tea when you are popping your mark + kingsblane. Also do i need to refresh all my dot when i use the mark ?

[vast loom]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[gusty mirage]

4+ is the new standard, and you don't need to refresh bleeds before pushing DM it's dynamic

so it'll dupe existing bleeds

[somber sparrow]

starting tuesday the affixes wil be Tyrannical, Storming, and Raging.. beautiful. Anything but bursting and spiteful

[forest nacelle]

the truth!

[gusty mirage]

tyran needs to be deleted from the game

[humble shale]

ok and do we need to reach 6 point rupture or just popping at 5 point if it doesn't reach 6 ?

[humble shale]

thx for the video

[robust scaffold]

bro I feel like I benefitted a lot--especially this week with tanks chain pulling while my spiteful is still alive--from just sending vanish at the start of a trash pull even if my KB is on CD to get big garrotes and ruptures** out. Idk if that's optimal at all, but I feel like my DPS has been better since I decided to be less stingy with vanish

[gusty mirage]

ideally you want as high of a CP rupture as possible for the duration, but more often than not you'll be at 5+ for that rupture

[vast loom]

yeah i started using a lot of vanish for IC in dungeons

felt fine

[forest nacelle]

popping vanish just to leave combat feels weird.

[robust scaffold]

yes same

[robust scaffold]

uhhh not to leave combat necessarily....? I mean I guess you can frame it that way, but I'm not framing it that way. I'm saying popping vanish for IC

[vast loom]

your KB might just crit without MA anyway 🙂

not even a dmg increase 😉

[forest nacelle]

oh.... i meant for spiteful xD sorry.

[robust scaffold]

ahh ya there you go, mb for miscomm

[tawdry flint]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[forest nacelle]

all g

[clever sapphire]

thats like saying you dont need more than 1% crit, it might just crit without more crit anyways

technically its correct, but than i could also say its a 50% chance of critting. Either it does or it doesnt

[robust scaffold]

in the 225k +22fall I posted above, I really feel like a lot of my damage is coming from spreading garrotes and ruptures. Again, I really don't even know if that's better than some alternative like spamming FOK, CT, FOK, Envenom, or some shit?

[strange python]

Yeah stuff dies pretty quick lmao. Trasnfering from sub has been rough 😂. Like in still trying to go back and forth on it and I’m getting nowhere lol

[robust scaffold]

stuff dies less quick if u have an augvoker instead of 2 other DPS @strange python

like if u have a DH and a hunter it's just ggs for your overall

LMAO

[forest nacelle]

yea

[knotty dome]

i feel you

[strange python]

Yeah I’m pretty much at trying to get used it and understand it a lot better. Yeah that’s normally what I pug into and in like oh great I might as well not show up lol

Assa still viable after nerfs?

sry idk about rogue

[azure drift]

nah its ded

[strange python]

its just my alt

[knotty dome]

man the main target always dies while my kingsbane is still up

[robust scaffold]

also I've been thinking (???) about trying the other build that Zerocool is running with like 4 poisons or something? idk if it players better in keys or something idk why he's running that

[forest oasis]

I currently got 2set from old tier and 2set from new tier, anyone knows how significant the dps upgrade is to 4set new tier?

[robust scaffold]

doesnt matter my g just send kingsbane on the highest health tankiest mob

[subtle tundra]

buddy...... there's already a popular dtb m+ build

[somber sparrow]

kingsbane reduced by 15% and a little less blindside proc chance. I think it will be fine. 4 piece and Envenom doing a lot of damage now.

[robust scaffold]

yeah exactly! What's the benefit of that over arterial?

sorry buddy!

[subtle tundra]

idk its just another build

a bit of a different dmg profile

ends up the same dps

thats it

[vast loom]

i like blindside on bosses 🙂

[robust scaffold]

I mean zerocool is just better than anyone else will ever be at the spec, so he must be thinking of something special with that build

[knotty dome]

i know it doesn't matter but always feels bad when u don't get the full benefit from ur cfd

[subtle tundra]

nah get banned

nah

[robust scaffold]

LMFAOOOOOO

[subtle tundra]

youre a troll

[robust scaffold]

had to kill you with that one

[subtle tundra]

@gusty mirage

come ban this guy

[robust scaffold]

dont be soft my g

[gusty mirage]

people are entitled to their opinions

[robust scaffold]

^

[gusty mirage]

but if you stream and I see you casting CT in 2T like he does

I'mma clown on you

[robust scaffold]

it's a discord chat and you're upset that I'm trolling you, go back to work

LOL DOES HE REALLY PRESS CT IN 2T CLEAVE

[gusty mirage]

[marble hemlock]

i do that too

[subtle tundra]

my work is RAID AND SERVERS ARE DOWN

[marble hemlock]

is that wrong?

[gusty mirage]

yes

CT is 4+ only

[robust scaffold]

^

the homie Whispyr mathed that one out

[subtle tundra]

not letting you dick check me

[marble hemlock]

sounds like something a sub player would say

to make me do less dps

[gusty mirage]

I'll check your dick buddy

don't tempt me

[robust scaffold]

???

[subtle tundra]

🥺

[gusty mirage]

I'll fly out to bucharest rn

[robust scaffold]

shiiiit wish I had that kind of disposable cash

[gusty mirage]

I'll just put it on credit card and pay 23% interest on it for the next 8 months

#TheAmericanDream

[robust scaffold]

no do what Im doing

[marble hemlock]

you misspelled years

[subtle tundra]

thats so wholesome 🥰

[robust scaffold]

balance transfers to different credit cards with 0% interest for however many months they offer, then just rinse and repeat

💀

[gusty mirage]

I don't think my stress levels will handle 8 years at this rate

[marble hemlock]

yeah well, sucks to be you. youre not wealthy enough to die.

[gusty mirage]

SURELY it'll get better

SURELY

[robust scaffold]

https://twitter.com/Lepandk/status/1731741010760273970

[marble hemlock]

poor people arent allowed to die, they have to suffer for as long as possible.

[robust scaffold]

💀 LMFAOOOO

[gusty mirage]

just like surely I'll get a useful vault tomorrow

[robust scaffold]

THAT POST IS TOO GOOD

[runic hinge]

You will

[slim pebble]

Oh I’m gonna get a 483 nick with avoidance FOR SURE

[runic hinge]

This is me blessing your vault

[marble hemlock]

you will. i have blessed and ordained it

can nick even roll terts?

[robust scaffold]

indestructible maybe?

[slim pebble]

It can roll leech so I’m sure it can roll the others

[robust scaffold]

oh damn that would be massive

[slim pebble]

I pulled these from fall this week so that was cool

[robust scaffold]

nice lil catalyst ting

[slim pebble]

They lose the leech if you catalyze them

[robust scaffold]

zerocool is live bro, tune in to learn from him

[marble hemlock]

yeah the leech on those, or speed on the plate shoulders etc, arent naturally rolled tertiaries

i do wonder if they can roll leech on top of the existing one

[subtle tundra]

how is he playing, server's are down

[robust scaffold]

because he's better than you'll ever be at the spec he's allowed to play and you aren't

[slim hamlet]

is NA also deadge?

[subtle tundra]

idk im playing skiribble

[bitter crow]

everything be dead dude

[cinder quartz]

i'd consider us all deadge

[bitter crow]

including D4

and wow classic

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/solid-snake-salute-gif-24255323

[slate crown]

Wow classic ptr still works

.> <.<

[slim hamlet]

https://twitter.com/BlizzardS_NAck/status/1731752623575879926

[limpid ridge]

yo guys lets game

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/xdd-xdding-cat-cute-cursed-gif-27104766

[limpid ridge]

[slate crown]

can still fiddle with weakauras

(gameplay for me)

[spice spire]

[slim hamlet]

we logging on minecraft, roblox or unturned?

[spice spire]

Touch grass time

[slim hamlet]

It's snowing

[dark crag]

Touch snow you mean

[slim hamlet]

no grass in sihgt

gg

[spice spire]

Whatever EU bozos

[slim hamlet]

also it's pitch black outside

[limpid ridge]

Puke on snow = selfmade grass

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-sure-catbruh-gif-21408636

[limpid ridge]

[slim hamlet]

anyone for amongus game?

[spice spire]

Nah I’ve seen those logs ur an imposter for sure

[slim hamlet]

what

[robust scaffold]

come play hearthstone battlegrounds

best timewaster game

[limpid ridge]

Warcraft Rumble

[north jetty]

My raid officers are telling me my stats are wrong because they’re comparing my stats to other rogues…I’m just doing top gear sims. Obviously using the best gear I’ve got according to the sims. Should I not be doing it this way?

[limpid ridge]

Your officers are stupid

[tame tangle]

checking your raiders secondaries lmao

[limpid ridge]

Like no hate - Sims/Stat Weights exist for a reason. Taking other ppls gear and compare their stats with yours despite you not having the same gear is kinda

[hollow dirge]

Since when do officers check stats for each player? 😂😂

[robust scaffold]

that's gotta be the most depressing shit I've ever read about any video game ever holy fuck

[limpid ridge]

Next youre telling me youre a chill Curve Guild

[static hedge]

servers up. not sure if anyone said yet or not.

[tame tangle]

is your damage like extremely low or something

[limpid ridge]

Theyre not

[static hedge]

Area 52 is. sorry homie

[robust scaffold]

^

[forest nacelle]

same for stormrage

😄

[bitter crow]

NA coming back up

Jak is in

https://www.twitch.tv/automaticjak

[wide ferry]

Any tricks to raising your m+ score besides just increasing th em+ key level?

[limpid ridge]

Clear Dungeons faster

[plain onyx]

guys help, having convos irl with my brothers, this hasnt happened since the launch of vanilla and now im stuck

[slim pebble]

That’s literally the only way to increase your score

[toxic timber]

hello, I've got a m+ question, how do you approach packs ? do you wait till everything is nicely clumped to start dotting with IC or do you dot as you run ?

[north jetty]

Yeah I think they’re just trying to be helpful

[woven frost]

Find complementary classes for your comp. Certain tanks and dps vibe better with assassination

[viscid python]

Just levelling a rogue, do people use the stealth bar actionbar or just bind the extra few keys?

[limpid ridge]

Nah thats not being helpful,thats talking out of their arses

If they wanted to be helpful,they'd be checking your logs. Then again,thats not shit officers should do anyways.

[woven frost]

Depends on size of pack and how long it will take to group them. If my tank is slow as balls, I’ll open and dot as a I go. If I get a nice clean grip, I’ll wait to open.

[slate crown]

There are very few buttons you don't want access to between stealth/not stealth, because of things like subterfuge/shadow dance

[slim pebble]

I raided with a guild for 3 nights - they told me my shiv usage was wrong and I stopped raiding with them

[slate crown]

So I "use" a stealth bar because default UI forces it, so if you don't have a bar addon like Elvui or bartender, then you have to use a stealthbar. However, I just make my stealth bar identical to my normal bar and have a few extra keybinds.

[limpid ridge]

As anyone should
They have no business prying into others shit aslong as you dont parse 0

[slate crown]

The most common and only reasonable substitution is (for assassination) placing Mutilate and Ambush on the same keybind button slot between the two

[normal mist]

"so you're saving your 2 shivs for your 1 minute SD coldowns? wtf is wrong with you!!"

[limpid ridge]

If youre not in some sweaty CE Guild and bosses still die it legit doesnt matter what others do

[normal mist]

It only matters when the dif between players is too big

[gusty mirage]

hey woah

this isn't a place for logic

next you'll tell me its just a video game that we're supposed to have fun with

[limpid ridge]

Depends?
I have no issues carrying that old dad that has 2 hours of time per week in a HC Guild run

[viscid python]

thanks, so is it common most people use the stealth action bar?

[grim jay]

quick, remove "stat weights" from your answer

[normal mist]

i can give an example: same ilvl players, some doing lets say 150-160k, other doing 90-100k

[tame tangle]

most ppl just make them the same

[limpid ridge]

You cant tell me what to remove

[gusty mirage]

you're not his real mom

wtf

[limpid ridge]

the audacity of ppl I swear

[grim jay]

no u

[slim pebble]

Hello

[gusty mirage]

I have mothered exactly 0 children in my life

[slate crown]

I'm not sure on the breakdown, I think most people just make the bars the same if they use them and have a default UI. If they use an addon like Elvui or Bartender, it lets you disable stealth bars altogether so many people do that as well.

[limpid ridge]

No its only important for me to have fun,fuck others

[slim pebble]

I’m a washed dad gamer

[limpid ridge]

Hi Dad, you gonna sponsor my flasks?

[grim jay]

I always felt like your the sin channel mom

[gusty mirage]

no that's quake, I was always the bad guy

[normal mist]

i can't have fun if people rely on others for loot to drop from bosses tho

[gusty mirage]

enforcing the rules

ya know

[slim pebble]

So you’re the dad

[grim jay]

nah quake is the bad guy

[slate crown]

(Personally I just use Default UI and have the bars identical between stealth and not stealth)

[normal mist]

I like teamwork

[limpid ridge]

Listen - I get that sentiment
But thats irrelevant for 99% of players
If youre in a good guild you'll automatically get loot by being a top parser

Not talking about CE stuff here, thats a whole different topic

[normal mist]

Im an heroic raider aswell

[limpid ridge]

Curve is a joke and starting to be all wannabe sweaty in such guilds is just killing the fun

[normal mist]

I'm done once i have curve

[runic hinge]

What am I to you?

[normal mist]

Which right now, is the only thing missing from my "to do list"

[thorn fjord]

[limpid ridge]

I take the 10% Logger that does mechanics 24/7 over the sweaty 99 parses that refuses to

[normal mist]

i dont have any of those

[slim pebble]

I got curve and now it’s time to take on the lfg boss

[normal mist]

TBF my guild is getting better

over the years

xD

[limpid ridge]

Aye topic came up by someone's officers doing random shit

If you dont have any of those,its all good

[normal mist]

My guild doesnt have officers

xDD

[limpid ridge]

What? You dont have a Officer per Class that monitors rotations and distributes loot?

What a filthy casual

[normal mist]

please describe what that means XD

[gusty mirage]

[thorn fjord]

DAT WAGON BOIIIIII

[gusty mirage]

you motherfucker

you know better

don't you make me moderate on a monday afternoon

[limpid ridge]

Now you know why his hair is so pointy

[barren matrix]

imagin u going with friend 2 x dagger trader for dagger like 15 run and still dont get that @ all

[thorn fjord]

Didnt even think that would be an issue tbh

[limpid ridge]

[thorn fjord]

Oxi a cop confirmed

[normal mist]

Honest talk, my guild is just a big group of friends, over the years we ended up kicking 70% + of the guild due to problems with behaviour, so we just a sad 10man group now

[gusty mirage]

no politics

in the spec channels

you fuck

[runic hinge]

That’s the problem you never think!

Jk love you

[thorn fjord]

Oh true i guess that does fall in there

[limpid ridge]

Decide - either touch grass or monitor

[gusty mirage]

next one I'm making you run a +13 murozond's rise with 411 ilvl members*

[thorn fjord]

Hey i need flightstones

Lets runnit

[gusty mirage]

you say that

until you wipe to every boss 18 times

that'll be your punishment

[thorn fjord]

Out of all the WQ available only 2 had flight stones -_-

[slate crown]

13 +13 murozond's rise

[gusty mirage]

they give you flightstones for just doing them

wdym

[limpid ridge]

Time to practice that pixel perfect cheese

[gusty mirage]

the ones you see as the reward are bonus

[thorn fjord]

No shit?

[gusty mirage]

homie have you played this game at all in the last year?

[thorn fjord]

You can tell how often I do WQ LOL

[flat bone]

Hey all, simming question: Raidbots has Sophic Devotion simming better for me than Wafting by a considerable margin, but everything I've seen on the matter (Wowhead, Bloodmallet, etc) says that Wafting is the best for Assa by a country mile. Does anyone know why this is, and how I could find out why Raidbots is telling me a descrepancy like this in the future?

(apologies if this isn't the channel for questions, if not please direct me to the correct channel! Thank you)

[limpid ridge]

He's perma dead,what do you expect

[normal mist]

probably BiS in BiS gear

[balmy condor]

Your gear isn’t bis gear

[thorn fjord]

Its based off of your gearset

[normal mist]

those were 3 quick answers

[limpid ridge]

Rogues for you - they finish fast

[cobalt shuttle]

yo how ppl are getting kingsbanes of 5m damage >:C

[flat bone]

I'm getting a lot of conflicting messages, but I think I can see through it all to understand that: it is based off of my gearset, which is not bis gear 😂

[thorn fjord]

So long story short your gear set prob has a TON of mastery where it prefers Sophic

[balmy condor]

My gf says im the fastest

[slim pebble]

My wife would concur

[thorn fjord]

Mine too

[limpid ridge]

Hey if she's still your gf after that,good for you

[thorn fjord]

And she's not a happy camper

[limpid ridge]

You did your job already

[gaunt sigil]

My BF says I finish too quick

[runic hinge]

[flat bone]

Yeah good call - I'm at 34% mastery (25 crit 22 haste). Is there anything in the Advanced Sim report that I could look at that would illucidate that answer for me? Or do you just know because you understand how the Spec works well?

[limpid ridge]

Tell him to shut up and be happy

Welcome to #assassination relationship advices

[knotty dome]

they really should open the server, you guys can't stay free like this hahahahahaha

[thorn fjord]

Pretty much just based on my own experience

[limpid ridge]

EU Realmlist is back atleast

[thorn fjord]

Damn so they took down both US and EU?

[flat bone]

ok cool, thank you again for all of your help!

[gusty mirage]

all blizzard games

[thorn fjord]

Good luck!

[limpid ridge]

It was EU first,NA after

and then the rest of blizzard

Cant wait for microsoft to take over

[gusty mirage]

they misplaced the hamster

they have to capture him and put him back on the wheel

[steel ridge]

well, there goes our first night of smoldy progress

no sub for me i guess

[fallow acorn]

lol

[steel ridge]

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/adam-sandler-cherish-it-billy-madison-gif-11616631

[balmy condor]

Why is he trying to open his weakauras

[limpid ridge]

I approve of this

[gaunt sigil]

Lmao

[thorn fjord]

Or they had to go to the store and buy another one

[haughty flicker]

i dont know how to be happy unless theres large text on my screen telling me to do so

maybe a sound cue too

[limpid ridge]

BE HAPPY

NOAW

[cinder quartz]

robot woman voice: Be Happy.

[knotty dome]

wtf is this story hahahahahahahahahahahaha

[limpid ridge]

Ayy EU is back

[gusty mirage]

that's the best I got friend

[thorn fjord]

lmaoooo

[gusty mirage]

gl

[balmy condor]

Anyone have a weakaura to show me when my gf finishes