assassination

[neat jolt]

do you guys play with 2 on use trinkets? branch and ashes?

[gusty mirage]

mfer stealing my damage man

[silk bane]

i mean same but im like 3-4 ilvls lower susge

[balmy condor]

no

double on use succ

[soft shale]

yes that is only a sub kinda thing for smolderon

[misty comet]

Big succ.

[waxen oyster]

i need higher than a 447 ring

send halp

[soft shale]

for assa branch/ashes and passive rock

[waxen oyster]

sometimes makes me wonder if 450 melandrus

is the tech

[royal lantern]

tbh, its my fav fight this tier

atleast on mythic

idk just started smoldy

[waxen oyster]

need to do larodar

looks kinda afk as melee

tbh

[royal lantern]

ye

until you get hard inted by your ranged

[waxen oyster]

im still not a big fan of the soak orbs being the same color

as the room

[royal lantern]

STOP DPS WE NEED SOME CLEARING->hunter proceeds too do 200k dps

[waxen oyster]

mildly annoying

[royal lantern]

litearlly just happend

🙂

[waxen oyster]

idk if inky black potion helps

[strange python]

It doesnt

You're inside

[severe sparrow]

our rl tells us when it's soaky orby time and then i just squint extra hard to find the different orange on top of the brown

[strange python]

Inky black works for TSwift and Fyrakk because they are outdoors

[woven frost]

So you’re saying you offer an audiobook version on Spotify?

[normal mist]

its fucking done, sheesh

[strange python]

Grats Royal

[waxen oyster]

yeah idk which dev decided lets make mechanics

the same color as the ground

[balmy condor]

gratz

[normal mist]

this week is so damn free

[strange python]

Ez week

[woven frost]

It’s a good push week

[waxen oyster]

i only know everbloom

[strange python]

First two were annoying af

[woven frost]

Infinite energy with spiteful

[severe sparrow]

i feel like it might get changed like the sark swirlies did cuz whoever they got making these decisions this expansion is smoking crack

[waxen oyster]

what are these pushes you talk of

[spice spire]

Whatcha pushing bud

[hollow river]

but you are mountable

[spice spire]

[waxen oyster]

oh man

sark fire when you got surrounded

[proven jasper]

gromnak the goat

[waxen oyster]

on all sides

[proven jasper]

Id like to see how many times gromnak would die using the witherbark trink

[royal lantern]

YOU AINT PUSHING SHIT

JUST SOME FOTM SURVIVAL HUNTER

[glossy flint]

Is it not possible to macro witherbark and deathmark together or am i going crazy?

[spice spire]

God he’s so real miss him sm

[waxen oyster]

i miss legion fragnance

when he'd smash his pc

[slate crown]

You can and many do

[proven jasper]

/cast deathmark and then /use 14

Or 13

[placid cobalt]

whats the deal with sandglass? it sims way higher than anything else for me even on mythic IL, is that normal? mallet sims show pip higher up but not for me i guess..

[proven jasper]

13 is first trinket slot 14 is second

[waxen oyster]

/ w "priest" player PI me

[severe sparrow]

sandglass is pretty sexy idk

[waxen oyster]

most important part of DM macro

[proven jasper]

Truth

[royal lantern]

good priests dont even need that anymore cus they just track cd's of Pi specs

[glossy flint]

Appreciate it, I gues I wil keep trying. I just reused my macro from Sub and it isn't working but only for Deathmark

[waxen oyster]

keyword

"good"

[proven jasper]

I said this the other day in here but legit a 441 sandglass sims higher than a 476 mirror for me

2 on use bad bad

[normal mist]

oh btw, this was my reward of getting KSH

[balmy condor]

yah

[waxen oyster]

if they wanna be really good

they'd just track kb dot

on target

[proven jasper]

As long as they give it to you when you dm everything is chill

all im saying

[waxen oyster]

the worst part is in pugs

[hexed willow]

Mine was nick! KSH bis for fall

[proven jasper]

i wanna smack the shit out of the priests that just use it on pull

so wasted

[waxen oyster]

when priests PI me when im on my first global out of stealth

[proven jasper]

yes BRO

[waxen oyster]

yeah didnt want it with my kb

[inner portal]

is there a best target for the cruel dreamcarver?

[royal lantern]

i had a pug priest use Pi on me 2seconds before we pulled a boss

like

[proven jasper]

YEP DUDE

[woven frost]

At least you GET PI

[proven jasper]

My first normal pug i did like 2 weeks ago it happened and i was like dude HUH?

[waxen oyster]

this is why i said spriest PI isnt even bad for sin

7s into pull isnt even bad

still fits last kb tick

[strange python]

Make sure the trinket is in the lower slot if you're using /14. Upper trinket slot would be /use 13.

I have my DM macro using my trunk on 14 every time.

After that just make sure you're in range to DM, otherwise you just use the trinket and may not notice till it's too late.

[royal lantern]

spriest is using 2sec into fight

[hexed willow]

^

[proven jasper]

blessed to have a disc priest in my raid group that knows what the fuck is going on

[waxen oyster]

oh idk why the guy was talking to said it was gonna be delayed

[hexed willow]

I get it from the spriest as I’m doing my mutilate for SnD

[woven frost]

I’ve had more pug priests think I was trolling them when I told them to PI me than I can count

[royal lantern]

that was before this tier

this tier has spriest ramp beeing very fast, they litearlly use 2 cd's->pi right now

[mighty nexus]

You guys get PI? My pug priests always PI the ret or mage

[waxen oyster]

no he said it like 2 days ago idk

[royal lantern]

i mean, people say many stupid things

[waxen oyster]

only time i get pi in pugs is when im playing outlaw

for some reason

[grim jay]

do they?

[latent copper]

can anyone explain plz our aoe rota in M+?

[proven jasper]

Cursed

[royal lantern]

just look at all the stuff im writing here

[mighty nexus]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[waxen oyster]

damn i really wanted faster autos

for bte resets

[latent copper]

especially, if we cant get in stealth

[waxen oyster]

wdym if we cant get in

same rules apply

[grim jay]

I never once thought of it as stupid. at most like a comedy act

[proven jasper]

If you cant restealth then vanish and shadow dance are your friend

[latent copper]

yeah but then we cant spread garraote and bleeds good

[proven jasper]

As they normally should be

[waxen oyster]

you still can spread

[safe zodiac]

@balmy condor i believe this is betternow? not still the best on tier set but i guess i magned it somehow?

[woven frost]

Garrote and rupture multiple targets. Keep CT bleed up. Spatter if you can on your KB target. I know everyone is tired of it, but I’ll say it- the Wowhead guide is good for it

[waxen oyster]

welcome to playing sin on multitarget before IC was a thing

[proven jasper]

Dont even remind me

I dont wanna think of those days

Before ic

[gray hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/raingump-kto-kounotori-kounotoritoken-lbow-gif-26528408

[drifting cedar]

guys how I remove those yellow numbers, don't wanna see double

[waxen oyster]

wowhead guide literally covers it all

not a bad thing to say

[gray hazel]

Playing sin in keys before ic

[junior aurora]

wdym

sin in bfa was fun

[cursive owl]

Pog OwO

[waxen oyster]

it was sin in raid

outlaw keys

[junior aurora]

gotta rip echoing blades and shrouded suffocation back in bfa

[waxen oyster]

playstyle in bfa was kinda dull

[proven jasper]

Sin in bfa was fun but it also played differently to now ya

[waxen oyster]

3x double dose

[grim jay]

it never was outlaw keys, dunno who'd play 2 classes, one for m+ and one for raid

[waxen oyster]

vanish for env mut spam

[woven frost]

I’ve loved sin in M+ since BFA. Something about spinning those plates is relaxing AF

[proven jasper]

It feels real good when you pull it off

thats why

[woven frost]

Playing with a DH tank in keys this tier has been interesting though. I’m going to literally put a leash on that man

[junior aurora]

[hushed fern]

someone who can check log rq here?

[proven jasper]

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/drag-kid-i-dont-want-to-go-stay-here-sliding-tired-gif-13781475

[slow snow]

I’ve convinced my tank that me restealthing=good for the party especially him

[waxen oyster]

most dh tanks are havoc mains in raid

not surprising they go zoom

[grim jay]

our maintank does it the other way around

[balmy condor]

yeah looks pretty normal for a low key

[proven jasper]

Same

[royal lantern]

thats the nicest thing anyone has said too me this week

[waxen oyster]

dpsing in keys

with tank shortage

[woven frost]

Restealths aren’t that important. It’s more the kiting mobs in a string behind him that are out of range for spatter, FoK, CT, etc.

[mighty nexus]

Restealth is just like, 1 extra button you don’t have to press

[proven jasper]

I just talk smooth to my tank about iron wire and he’ll give me a re

[mighty nexus]

fok rupture ez

[waxen oyster]

unironically yeah no re is just a tank loss

[woven frost]

We have Dance now. Makes up for the pain of the past

[waxen oyster]

he just takes more damage because of it

[proven jasper]

Thats how u do it man

Gotta let em know

[faint path]

Ashes + branch ❤️

[proven jasper]

[lime crypt]

brand is awesome, ye?

[waxen oyster]

for longer fights yes

[woven frost]

For ST yes

[lime crypt]

which one

[strange python]

Why does wowhead have pips as bis but the sheet has brand?

[lime crypt]

i wanna know how much should i gaslight the guild into giving it to me

[waxen oyster]

its an st trinket

[plucky canopy]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1179077804189560932/image.png?ex=657878c6&is=656603c6&hm=40d354b599c48477390ae8ef0933607ebacbb8972ad82b65383541f41565aacb&=&format=webp&width=895&height=428

[proven jasper]

Pips is better in all content where brand is really just st

[waxen oyster]

that gains value the longer a fight goes

[lime crypt]

bis st for logn fights, correct?

[royal lantern]

cus pips is the best overall

brand is only good for longtime ST only

[proven jasper]

Oh he was prepared

[strange python]

I didn't scroll down 😦

[balmy condor]

no I just opened the page

[waxen oyster]

my sandglass sims higher but thats mostly because its 489

[woven frost]

It’s almost like he wrote a guide. That explains it

[proven jasper]

[mighty nexus]

It’s really funny when people come here bc “they don’t trust the wowhead guide” and then proceed to ask whispyr questions

[waxen oyster]

ill prob get one for fyrak since mythic endbosses are usually long

[proven jasper]

The guy who literally wrote the guide am i right

Its hilarious

[woven frost]

I’ve actually found the vids pretty helpful too

[balmy condor]

my favorite is when people go "hey I saw jpc/exile do X" and then I send back a message from jpc/exile saying "no the fuck I don't"

that's a power move I enjoy

[clever sapphire]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[woven frost]

^ only power move we need

[clever sapphire]

always makes my day

look at him wiggle

[balmy condor]

gotta hit em with the shimmy

[woven frost]

Can we get multiple dance moves if we behave?

[balmy condor]

I'm white

I only have the shimmy

[fallow acorn]

ROFL

[mighty nexus]

5 gifted if you add a spin

[balmy condor]

spin is a bit complex

bit out of my skillset

[woven frost]

We can send you a Wowhead guide on it

[strange python]

I trusted the guide just wasn't sure why. Explanation was half a page down from the list itself :/

[balmy condor]

can't read

[lucid rain]

what upgrade track?

[mighty nexus]

Of course, that wasn’t about you

[lime crypt]

heroic

[balmy condor]

yeah, I'm shackled to the formatting, it's gotta be like that for search engine nonsense

bit pain

[lucid rain]

damn nice

[woven frost]

Youtube video explaining the same thing

[balmy condor]

ah damn, I'd love to but I actually just bleached my eyes

[mighty nexus]

!read

Need new command

[woven frost]

We can just make a gif of shimmying Whispyr with an overlay that says “It’s in the guide”

[balmy condor]

I've actually considered !read

[proven jasper]

based

[safe zodiac]

it was a 16 bwt

[balmy condor]

it would just spit out like "the answer is in the guide"

seemed a bit too troll though

[balmy condor]

yeah

I'd believe that

[faint path]

Guys whats our next craft?

[balmy condor]

after boots and wrists you can do like blue silk linin

you know what

I'm just gonna start screenshotting the guide instead

[royal lantern]

damm, thats writen good

who made it

[clever sapphire]

too much text, can i get a shorter version

[mighty nexus]

Idk but is it up to date

[dark token]

@balmy condor kinda troll compared to ring with socket crafts imo

[balmy condor]

okay

[royal lantern]

soviet moment

[dark token]

?

[royal lantern]

like, man

[dark token]

You just crafted 2 embellishments and socketed rings are very hard to aquire atm

Why would you craft a 3rd

[balmy condor]

cause you want to

[slate crown]

I've been doing !guide all the time when I answer something and say "The answer is in the guide, on X page." and give like a half-sentence answer to the question but I feel that's too hand-holdy like, they're going to read my half-answer and not look at the guide at all and the link becomes pointless

[woven frost]

Because you can

[balmy condor]

how are you enjoying the feeling of helplessness

[mighty nexus]

That’s exactly why I just link the guide

[dark token]

Why when you would only equip this for m+ basically and socketed ring craft is probably more damage in keys anyway over another embellishment since u already have 2

[royal lantern]

mate

you act as if its 8k dps

when its "what crafted item do i get"

[dark token]

I'm just saying trolling people with their 3rd spark isn't cool this early on lol

[royal lantern]

which you all get anyway

[waxen oyster]

third craft is really wherever

your rng didnt like you

[dark token]

Only reason you wouldn't ring craft is if ur stealthi and got lucky

[woven frost]

I usually do engi bracers because I’m surrounded by dead bodies in keys that need help

Or something with a nice flavor pocket

[slate crown]

I'm trying not to drown in it, it's familiar. Cold to the touch, empty. Like the sides of a shipping container by the docks, long empty. My mind fills the space with potential, but I know in my heart that it is abandoned forever.

[proven jasper]

So real

[thorn fjord]

That’s deep

[indigo mulch]

Nymue is such a shit fight

its almost as bad as council

[proven jasper]

Nah man i really like nymue

I don’t understand the hate

[mighty nexus]

I thought nymue was pretty easy

[thorn fjord]

You’re not color blind lmao

[balmy condor]

we'll work on speeding up the existential dread a little bit, 3 minutes is a bit slow for a 4 sentence paragraph

[proven jasper]

Oh great point LOL

[balmy condor]

did you just assume my disability

[woven frost]

Smolderbolder is tough for colorblind too

[proven jasper]

I mean i felt colorblind clearing sark tbh

[thorn fjord]

I’m both color blind and diabetic

[proven jasper]

All the shit just blended together

[balmy condor]

I'm regular blind

[thorn fjord]

Hell yeah it is

[balmy condor]

and double stupid

[waxen oyster]

i need to craft a ring

[spice spire]

I am even more stupid

[waxen oyster]

447 ring is not the play

[spice spire]

And colorblind

[thorn fjord]

@woven frost intermission fucks me up pretty bad

[chrome magnet]

when spreading garrote and rupture in the beginning of an aoe pull, is it better to target switch or just rely on IC to smart target? feel like it has to be better to target switch, just makes it a little hectic

[thorn fjord]

[mighty nexus]

I just full send through the walls and tell my healers to do their job

[waxen oyster]

been lazy and only renown 15 though

so wont get the freebie wyrm yet

[proven jasper]

I just shadowstep to whoever dares run through

[slate crown]

(Pls let me know if you feel up to it if you run into any bad colors in my auras pls I don't want them to be bad for accessibility )

[waxen oyster]

one time i got the last run out circle on nymue

then he transitions as im coming back and late

as the group lead

[proven jasper]

Uh oh LMAO

oopsies

[thorn fjord]

Nah your auras are fine.. I have issues with similar colors being blended where they both end up looking the same

[balmy condor]

(Pls let me know if you feel up to it if you run into any good colors in my auras pls I want them to be bad for accessibility )

[woven frost]

Stop pouring bleach in your eyes. I heard that helps.

[waxen oyster]

not as bad as the one attempt the tank dropped a circle right on the red soak

tragic

[tranquil stirrup]

is there a good weakaura for Ashes trinket, or just press it ~2s into KB ?

[slate crown]

Ok, I'll go play DE again...

[chilly marsh]

what build you guys are using m+ saw many diferent ones

[proven jasper]

We need whispyr 1000 yard stare image to respond to dumb questions

[thorn fjord]

Whispyr is prob in need of a nap

[balmy condor]

Demon Eunter

[thorn fjord]

He was up at 8am today

[woven frost]

Hybrid for big KB. AP for bleedy

[balmy condor]

Death Enight

[slate crown]

Disco Elysium

[dark token]

ye lining is real good

[indigo mulch]

Dis Elk

[balmy condor]

is that one of them funky rhythm games

[slate crown]

Nopers

[mighty nexus]

Discipline Eriest

[thorn fjord]

It’s the porn parade of that shitty Tom cruise movie

[south wing]

need to attend a porn parade

[balmy condor]

kinda based

[waxen oyster]

isnt that just a pride parade

from what i’ve seen

[balmy condor]

If I put "ring crafts are good" into the guide will you shut the fuck up or?

[south wing]

those people get wild tbh

[proven jasper]

Isnt the point of crafting bsl for m+ anyway and not raid lmao

[balmy condor]

yes and the guide says that

but apparently I'm trolling people

[proven jasper]

Mhm nice

Seems like i read correctly

[waxen oyster]

hidden third embellishment tech

[dark token]

m+

[chilly marsh]

there ones with fu version too no? but he dotn take AP

[balmy condor]

why is your margin 500 dps

[dark token]

cause its basically a wash for m+

[waxen oyster]

whats the sim loss if your healer lets you dip

ln your last kb tick

[balmy condor]

that's not how margins work

[dark token]

but way better for raid

its within 0.2% aka a sidegrade

[waxen oyster]

i actually dont get why you cant flavor pocket

the tele ring

[dark token]

you do flavor pocket ur ring

ah yeah

idk

just craft the other one

i just picked a ring

[balmy condor]

okay

I don't have the energy to argue with you

[dark token]

clearly

[dark token]

that is how they work in raidbots

[balmy condor]

no

it isn't'

[indigo epoch]

[south wing]

[balmy condor]

click on the big yellow "sidegrades" word that's hyperlinked

[woven frost]

https://tenor.com/view/jason-momoa-chair-popcorn-time-ready-to-party-dis-gon-be-good-gif-24174564

[balmy condor]

and read me the first sentence

[proven jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[mighty nexus]

[balmy condor]

skill issue

[sweet dawn]

I cried a lil bit

[dark token]

yeah i know what it says

its a sidegrade

this is a gear compare sim

[runic hinge]

You gotta wipe the raid after that

[dark token]

i guess raidbots uses a different sidegrade % for it

[proven jasper]

It happened to me on sark once and i havent let it die yet

[south wing]

[dark token]

not like its something i control

[balmy condor]

okay maybe not the actual first sentence

[eternal nymph]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Long In-depth explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:
https://youtu.be/DoZDPFk_Zog
The TLDW (I understand, it's LONG):

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths
• You still have vanish and in 10.2, shadow dance, which gives you MANY options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[waxen oyster]

never player sin on sark

i got 3 evis parried on magmorax once

[dark token]

top gear its 0.1%

[waxen oyster]

in a row

[proven jasper]

Cringe as hell

[balmy condor]

ah we're getting to the crux of it

[dark token]

idk why its 0.2% here

[balmy condor]

yeah

neither do I

that's why I asked

since 0.2

is not margin

[proven jasper]

i has that happen to rupture once

Also on magmorax LOL

Fuck that pinata

[mighty nexus]

ñ

[robust scaffold]

wait is someone arguing with Whispyr about an assass simcraft?

[balmy condor]

not really

[south wing]

[dark token]

this was also real classy when im just trying to help people with correct information

[balmy condor]

no one disagreed with you

literally no one

[proven jasper]

You werent any classier tbr

not that it matters.

[balmy condor]

ring crafts are fine

[dark token]

yeah but im not a CF

[balmy condor]

all crafts are fine

[dark token]

for a reason

they should be held to a higher standard

[crimson zephyr]

where in the wowhead can I see what items I should craft? none?

[dark token]

just sayin

[robust scaffold]

mfs just seem to have a lot of time on their hands 💀

[royal lantern]

i got my KB parried on our larodar kill

beat that

[waxen oyster]

wipe the raid angle

[balmy condor]

gear page at the bottom

[proven jasper]

Typa shit id do

[slate crown]

I'm probably going to craft a ring just because I want a free socket and my alt is max kp JC so free and easy crafts

[waxen oyster]

also make it a tactical wipe

[slate crown]

for my third craft

[waxen oyster]

so you still look smart

[slate crown]

and I want my god damn flavor pocket back

[dark token]

yeah its tilting without one

[proven jasper]

The raid would probably hear me scream and know whats up

[waxen oyster]

i mean if it happens on pull

i am 100% wiping

no loss

[wet agate]

Is there a worse experience rn then throne of tides and spiteful..

Shit drives me nuts

[proven jasper]

Next week tyrannical rise

[balmy condor]

opening the channel some days

[dark token]

usually the small stuff dies before big mob and my spatter pads on spiteful

[south wing]

[waxen oyster]

my first throne of the season

no idea third boss was a boss

[south wing]

yes

[waxen oyster]

portal acquired doesn't matter

"this thing has alot of hp"

"thats the boss"

[south wing]

[balmy condor]

reworked dungeon btw

[south wing]

Heroic throne in cata

[waxen oyster]

didnt they remove the mc mechanic

on 2nd boss

[south wing]

yes

[waxen oyster]

i only know that because i used to tank timewalking and kill a dps during that

[balmy condor]

blizzard the only company that can rework a dungeon and have it be just as bad

[proven jasper]

yeah i didnt even know they “reworked” it

[acoustic pendant]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1179077804189560932/image.png?ex=657878c6&is=656603c6&hm=40d354b599c48477390ae8ef0933607ebacbb8972ad82b65383541f41565aacb&=&format=webp&width=895&height=428

[torn shore]

Hi, anyone who can advise general play on raid bosses with common adds? Understand the play in aoe build and pure ST, but not too sure what the general idea is on add cleave in ST build + caustic spatter. Worth dotting adds? Just splash damage? Pooling and/or holding KB for add spawns? Lost, do fine in keys fine on ST, as soon as its an add boss my parse is terrible

[waxen oyster]

why did they even include a cata dungeon

where the mop ones

[sweet dawn]

Depends on the boss but for gnarlroot and stuff I basically just spatter cleave and play as normal

[royal lantern]

why did they include pre legion dungeons

like

all are shit

[indigo epoch]

Wish I could reclaim a spark of dreams. Fucked up and crafted an item I don't need.

[sweet dawn]

If the big adds are close enough I will rupture them

[royal lantern]

every single one of them

[waxen oyster]

they havent used

a tbc dungeon yet

or wotlk

[thorn fjord]

We need a M+ Silvermine

[south wing]

tbc dungeon

[potent dawn]

20 Fall runs and no dagger still..... its a lie

[runic hinge]

M+ deadmines when?

[thorn fjord]

Yeah yeah thats what i meant

[south wing]

Bring back mythic Shadowfang keep

[silk bane]

TRUEEE BRING BACK THE ONE WHERE U AFK AND LICH KING CHASES U FOR 20 MINUTES. SURELY THE M+ COMMUNITY WILL LOVE IT. AND IF HTEY DONT JUST MAKE LICHKING CHASE U DOWN MOCK 50 INSTEAD OF WALKING. BANGER

[uneven bronze]

whats the range for caustic spatter to deal damage?

[thorn fjord]

Bro is that a hitler cat

[spice surge]

12 yards

[manic quartz]

😄

[royal lantern]

just make endless spawn gauntlets in that dungeon, people love those right??????

[uneven bronze]

Thats Kittler! Dont insult him like that

[indigo epoch]

12? Thought it was 10

[cosmic socket]

!ffuu

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[thorn fjord]

Every day we stray further and further away from God

[torn shore]

So you reckon its worth rupture on any big adds and just spatter shit adds? Gnarlroot as example, woth rupture on treants?

[dark token]

outside of cds

yes

[strange python]

THink I have enough crit?

[thorn fjord]

Thats a ton of leech

[dark token]

u need 1% to hit the crit breakpoint

[strange python]

damnit

hell yeah - goes up to 29% too when under 50%

[silk bane]

okay how about we make the gauntlet in throne ot tides the dungeon? the entire dungeon is a gauntlet. banger

[potent dawn]

Im at 27 with the dagger proc and its silly haha

[strange python]

feel so tanky with it honestly

[shut owl]

not unless you're taste of blood specced; just send it hard on gnarlroot

FoK for funnel

[potent dawn]

I tanked Volocross in a pug for 8% with evasion and the leech LOL was Hillarious

[waxen oyster]

M+ shattered hall

"we hate melee"

[royal lantern]

or, just dont

[spice spire]

I’d make a joke about German speaking

But also

[thorn fjord]

Sus as hell tbh

[dusty lance]

Hey guys whats the Range of Caustic Spatter

[dark token]

10

[mighty nexus]

big

[dark token]

medium

[mighty nexus]

it feels a lot bigger than it looks

[spice surge]

12 #assassination message

[spice spire]

12 yards from target

Or units

[dusty lance]

my friend in guild is having problems with getting it to hit the spears on the 2nd boss

[dark token]

ok he also said 10 earlier

[dusty lance]

trying to help him out

[mighty nexus]

Probably just gotta stack them closer

tighter

[muted ridge]

is it just me or are we randomly getting out of stealth for no reason?

[mighty nexus]

!stealthbreak

[prisma monolith]

Stealth can break from:

• evoker leggo buff (Unbound Surge) dropping
• Essence trinket on buff gain
• Voice of the Silent Star (Sark cape)
• some mistweaver thing related to their statue

[strange python]

i think there's a cloak that does it

[muted ridge]

oh lmao

[spice spire]

Damn eleem posting the one with an absolute heater message below it

[dark token]

i think he looked it up after

but this was my source

[balmy condor]

it got stealth buffed

[dark token]

[balmy condor]

think it was uh

maybe the tuesday last week

or something

carnage range also got stealth buff

[woven frost]

WHY DIDNT YOU ADD IT TO THE GUIDE HOW DARE YOU

[balmy condor]

but people didn't notice either of them

[mighty nexus]

that’s it, can’t trust wowhead guide now

[crimson zephyr]

thansk im blind

[balmy condor]

carnage is a mess to try to find the ranges on

cause it's both from player and target

and it's just

[spice spire]

Whispyr how do you feel about assassination being fotm, and speak clearly into the microphone

[balmy condor]

such a headache

[woven frost]

Carnage hits what it wants to hit. Just go with it.

[hexed willow]

Are we the source of your problems

[dark token]

i was wondering why i did sin m+ today and compared to week 1 it felt smoother on the carnage

[runic hinge]

Carnage is so weird when the mobs are big

[balmy condor]

I miss the days where people told me that I was a shill saying assa was fine and didn't buffs. Now people saying that I'm a sandbagger saying it doesn't need major nerfs

[runic hinge]

Sometimes I can’t hit both bears in dht

[dark token]

maybe i can triple carnage on pull on council now

brb trying

[balmy condor]

nop

you can't

still ass

tried it tuesday

[spice spire]

God ur so real for that

It’s actually funny to think about

Legitimately

[earnest remnant]

you can do it on council

just wait 1.5 sec after the boss is pulled

[balmy condor]

not on pull you can't

even then

[earnest remnant]

time it for the deer jumping

[balmy condor]

I had to fucking manually dot

[dark token]

you mean if bear is in the middle or

ah

[balmy condor]

all 3 of those fucks

[hexed willow]

Whoa should we be multidotting council

Is that why I suck on that fight

[balmy condor]

I wouldn't chase after a boss halfway across the arena

but yeh generally good idea

[mighty nexus]

Welp, there’s the reasoning for my blue parse on council

[dark token]

i like to garrote/rupture dragon + bear on pull, then DM bear and spread dance garrote/rupture to deer

if tanked correct spatter hits all 3

[balmy condor]

yeah

[dusk onyx]

When the female jumps over the bear you can hit all 3 at pull

[balmy condor]

thats what I do

but the "tanked correctly" part

is uh

very hit or miss

[dark token]

yeah the tanks often drag it onto the deer

[lethal swallow]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[balmy condor]

council is just eternally cringe

[dark token]

i loved it until the 3 somehow jumped together midfight and i sent my DM

then got ducked

2 globals after

now i hate the fight

[balmy condor]

I got ducked 2 kingsbanes in a row

[wise gull]

mechanics during kingsbane

[viscid dune]

Hello everyone, I'm new, can you recommend which race would be best for the rogue in the alliance?

[obsidian obsidian]

Whatever one u like the most

[mighty nexus]

The one you enjoy looking at most

[slate crown]

Human gains a reputation bonus which is convenient.

[manic quartz]

scrap the alliance, join the no boots gang, Troll supremacy

[fallen forge]

yes but then ur a human

[sweet dawn]

AGAIN

IT'S JOEVER

[hexed willow]

Taurens are naturally stealthy

[fallen forge]

nelf supremacy

[slate crown]

Also stun break racial does actually have fuckups it can fix in both current keys and raid

[balmy condor]

you can blend in with horse drawn carriages, +25 to stealth

[surreal citrus]

worgen

[torn shore]

Dwarf is god mode

[viscid dune]

I like 3, human, dwarf and night elf

[torn shore]

best racial in game

[mighty nexus]

tentacle elves are the best tbh

[obsidian obsidian]

Dwarf is based

[manic quartz]

best race is undead for obivious reasons

[fallen forge]

they also look the coolest

[balmy condor]

cause they're the most relatable

[torn shore]

Crit bonus is nice and stoneform is amazing. Basically a second semi cloak

[manic quartz]

/laugh is the best

[surreal citrus]

undead smell

[obsidian obsidian]

stop

[manic quartz]

only downside of trolls is boots transmog

[south wing]

spirits be witchya mon

[viscid dune]

hmmm, so the 3, human, dwarf and night elf are good

[ancient rain]

go gnome

[slate crown]

All 3 are good

[south wing]

make arcane torrent great again

[ancient rain]

draenei rogue is where it's at

[ivory sierra]

so im learning ass and what do you do between cds, i find i have no energy by the time cds are up

[mighty nexus]

don’t sleep on the 0.02% damage from void elf passive

[spice surge]

Nothing

[winter gale]

Bis embells are toxic thorn+power of decay thingie?

[tribal vortex]

does garrote have to be cast after deathmark to be affected or will it work with a garrote already rolling?

[winter gale]

I saw some ppl with mastery buff

[slate crown]

!pooling you do this

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[slate crown]

Works with garrotes already rolling and new garrotes, doesn't matter

[tribal vortex]

ty

[simple niche]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[grim tree]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[lusty ermine]

I legit am running this actually just cuz I like her accent 😅

[slim hamlet]

wait what

aintnoway it's from target

In the normal "from target" way at least

[strange python]

do you guys think if they should nerf sin

[slim hamlet]

They should delete PI

And see how it looks

Or just change dmg from KB to normal spells which they did a bit of end of ptr

Making it not gain so much from external sources

[balmy condor]

it's from player first and if it can't find anything from player it checks the target as a small secondary check

[slim hamlet]

Oh

Interesting

Is it like super small then with the 2nd check?

[balmy condor]

the second check is like actually melee range

or slightly smaller

[slim hamlet]

Swear it has to be inside it

Yea ok makes more sense

better than nothing tho

Could possibly be used

[balmy condor]

helps with acro a bit

but yeh

very niche

[strange python]

its prob something like this

[bold temple]

got my hero track nick of time and i'm actually out of flightstones to upgrade it lol

[balmy condor]

if the red dot is the player, yes

[vestal wren]

you can use nick in offhand just fine

its not a high prio to upgrade

if you have a strong mainhand

[balmy condor]

the overlap isn't necessary idk if that's on purpose

but might be

idk

something like that though seems about right

[ivory sierra]

so how does the tier set work exactly, it doesnt do the explosion consistently for me even when cast during the window

[balmy condor]

are you sure?

there's no visual

you might be mixing up poison bomb

[ivory sierra]

thats it def, huh

[balmy condor]

if you're thinking the green pool on the floor is the tier

it isn't

that's poison bomb

:P

[ivory sierra]

yee i was

[balmy condor]

[south wing]

poison bomb sfx are S tier

[balmy condor]

lots of bombs and explosions

[glossy imp]

Love me some poison bomb

[agile gull]

Does anyone know if smolderon was silently changed on hc? seems others can pick up ones balls somehow

[balmy condor]

they broke orbs

and then reverted

they're trying to fix some shit with it

it's been all sorts of fucked in the last 3-4 hours

[runic hinge]

Fml. I wish I could work the wowhead talent calculator better on my phone

[hard plaza]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[thorn fjord]

@oak tangle Yo wheres the branch pic

[silver turret]

can someone help me look at my log? i thought i did pretty good, but i only parse 70
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Tr37pj816FCWvgwN#fight=41&type=damage-done

[lusty ermine]

heyall, new to Assassin and reading thru the guides but have a few questions: (1) can we macro SD to Kingsbane with SD being first? Is there ever a time that would be detrimental to do? (2) I saw wowhead recommend HeroRotation as a helper, and I read Hekili does the same thing. Anyone have any experience with those? Are they garbage or actually helpful? My assumption is it's good to help learn rotation, but it won't be able to "plan" ahead and acount for best CD uses other than use off cooldown.

[south wing]

yes and no, they’re garbage

[subtle tundra]

they were so broken

you were taking other peopls

[full solstice]

is there a way to see how much damage each of my abilities did in logs

all its showing me is my total dps

[full solstice]

hekili is atrocious

i have it for outlaw and its fine on that

on sin its actually trash

[thorn fjord]

Yeah its bad with specs like sin

UHDK and Ret Pali tho?

its amazing lol

[slate crown]

Yes you can macro them together for ST.

Some situations in M+ it may be better to use dance for bleed spread when KB will not be effectively used because targets die too fast.

Don't use Hekili, learning things without is generally better

[lusty ermine]

why's it good for outlaw but not for assassin?

[slate crown]

Is it good for outlaw?

[lusty ermine]

Karson said it was for him

[flint pond]

anyone have a plater script that changes cast bar color when kick is on cd?

[tawdry crypt]

do I ever use poisoned knife

[balmy condor]

nah

[unique sorrel]

hekili is super hit or miss, but assa is kinda simply rotation-wise. you knida do the same thing all the time for the most part

[lusty ermine]

is there a way to set Details to stop recording after a set time?

[wise gull]

Anyone know the secondary stats used on the bis set crafted bracers?

[unique sorrel]

give a target dummy a slap and do the opener/KB setup over and over and over

[slate crown]

!details

[prisma monolith]

To stop details from resetting on vanish, go into the settings and under Overall Data, make sure "Use Dynamic Overall Damage" is checked.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1173432355785027584/details_vanish.png

[slate crown]

Oh, you mean like some timer

I am not sure

[unique sorrel]

could log with wcl and then trim to the time you want

[wise gull]

You just upload dummy logs and then select the timeframe

ye that

[unique sorrel]

live log it

[tawdry crypt]

and what poisons does ass run

[balmy condor]

amp over deadly

[slate crown]

Lethal: Amp>Deadly>>>>>>>>>>>>Instant>>>>>>>>>Wound
Non-Lethal: whatever you want just have 2 of them

[balmy condor]

generally if you talent into a poison

you should be using it

and then you're good to go from there

[tawdry crypt]

yeah just didn't know which lethal

[balmy condor]

yeh same rule

[strange python]

If you're not using Dragon Tempered Blades then use Deadly+whichever non lethal like Numbing, Crippling, or Atrophic

[winged basin]

truly nothing more frustrating then coming back to try sin after an extended time and trying the opener

[balmy condor]

whats frustrating you

[winged basin]

my fingers and my inability to read then do what I just read lmfao

[balmy condor]

I see

[reef rivet]

Is 4cp + still the optimal amount to spend with envenom?

[final trench]

Q: when were in burst window I cast:
shiv
KB
Garrote
mut
rupture (5)
tea at 6 secs
Shiv at 3.

is it also worth chaining my vanish at 3 for nightstalker buff?
or is that doing too much?

[unique sorrel]

i pulled the opener on the second monitor and stared at it and smacked the buttons on a dummy for like an hour straight

brain rot to train the fingies

[shy pecan]

It’s all about patience

[winged basin]

was a sin 1trick until last season of SL then I played ele sham, and wanted to come see the new stuff and trying to train my fingers back is tuff

[unique sorrel]

im still like 75% certain im fucking something in my opener though

[balmy condor]

I just wouldn't rupture, you're dropping envenom for sure like that

[dusky nebula]

guys, when i am not in my cds and I am trying to chain my envens how low should i let my energy go?

[balmy condor]

idk what you mean by chain vanish

vanish is at 3 seconds left on kb for master assassin

[final trench]

I mean nightstalker gives you a buff, would I have to reactiviate vanish within SD to get that? and if so....then do I do it with 3 secs of KB left?

Ok, thats what I thought. Thank you. 🙂

[balmy condor]

the shadow dance gives you the nightstalker on kb

you don't need to do it again

[lusty ermine]

is there a WA that tracks your 4p buff?

[final trench]

AHHH! that makes sense.

[balmy condor]

4p doesn't have a buff to track

[final trench]

4p just goes brrr

[strange python]

Just track envenom buff

[balmy condor]

oh

he's not tracking env

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[unique sorrel]

is there a nice place to get your casts from a log out on a timeline?

i want to go stare at my opener attemps

[balmy condor]

casts -> timeline?

[lusty ermine]

like the envenom chain thingy

[strange python]

It's just based on if the Envenom buff is up

[dusky nebula]

when chaining my EV, how low should I let my energy go? It takes so long to get back to 80%

[final trench]

envenom has a timer, to chain you have to clip at 1 secs until you cant manage, then you pool back to 80 and re do

[balmy condor]

0

[final trench]

doings is harder than saying though.

[unique sorrel]

yeah, i just wanna easy to read look at my logs

[wise gull]

anyone know this? sorry to ask again

[unique sorrel]

oh

i found it

im silly

[dusky nebula]

Thanks! at 0 do I just not press buttons to get back to 80%?

[ebon temple]

how important is it having slice and dice on during a lust on pull? it feels kinda bad spending some of that window pressing that button

[balmy condor]

doesn't matter, if it's crit/mast or haste/vers the gems/enchant would balance it out

[slate crown]

It's allowed. You are a plant after all.

[unique sorrel]

[wise gull]

kk, ty!

[hard plaza]

are Churpies videos decent (accurate) to current state?

[lusty ermine]

ahhh I see, I misread the tooltip. So once we have 4p, we want to generate CP until 4+, then wait until envenom buff is about to expire (or 80% energy) and then cast envenom?

[strange python]

Correct

[lusty ermine]

so we really really want to try and keep energy above 50% if possible I take it?

[balmy condor]

should be

[strange python]

For sanguine blades uptime yes

[runic hinge]

Not with 4 piece

[final trench]

yes, because of 4p envenom chains and also sanguine blades.

[hard plaza]

ty

[balmy condor]

no

you don't play around sanguine once you get 4 piece

you play around 4 piece

[final trench]

oop

my bad

[lusty ermine]

ooooh once we have 4p we no longer worry about it

[strange python]

Well that makes it clearer for me too lol

[final trench]

still wanna pool though right?

[lavish brook]

Any reason to not take the PvP chest from the 2k IO reward?

[balmy condor]

!pool

fuck

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[strange python]

It's on champ track the other is hero track

[unique sorrel]

oh, i figured out what i was doing wrong

[lavish brook]

Theyre both hero

[balmy condor]

pvp items have garbo ilvl pretty sure

[balmy condor]

oh weird

[strange python]

Wtf

[slate crown]

I think the only difference for the pvp pieces is appearence

and the scaling obv

[strange python]

It wasn't like that a week ago afaik

[lavish brook]

Its the same, just one isnt PvP.. the other starts with a little higher ilvl

[whole seal]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[balmy condor]

yeh when I turned in my curio it was worse

[unique sorrel]

i did gar > ambush > rup > snd > mut > ev > DM

i was trying to figure out why i didnt have ev up for the dm/kb ramp up

[woeful meteor]

think they buffed pvp items cause the were like 20 behind pvp at max

[unique sorrel]

so you always want to 5 combo that first envenom?

[balmy condor]

ye

[strange python]

Well damn

[unique sorrel]

it feels like a VERY close time check for the buffs

[gentle belfry]

Even if you have to 3x mut for it?

[balmy condor]

yes

[gentle belfry]

[strange python]

I would have grabbed a PvP item had that been the case a week ago

[balmy condor]

goes to show you how little I pay attention to pvp

[woeful meteor]

but rogue is a pvp class

[crude pasture]

Same lol

[unique sorrel]

this applies to the AOE opener as well? if so, wowhead's guide is saying 4+ in the AOE section

[balmy condor]

I literally have no idea whats happening pvp related ever, and somehow still know more than before

[lusty ermine]

I like that plater profile you listed there. How do I delete a previous one and replace it with a new one?

[unique sorrel]

though not as big an issue for aoe cause fok goes brrrt

[balmy condor]

aoe you can drop it entirely if you need to

[split jewel]

is ask mr robot still relevant?

[balmy condor]

woah

that's a throwback lmao

[strange python]

You can import new profiles and swap them in the addon settings.

[split jewel]

all the answer i need, lol

[balmy condor]

ask mr robot pretty much died out during legion when raidbots showed up

been a hot minute

[gentle belfry]

How do I make a pawn string again guys 👴

[split jewel]

have a guildy that somehow still uses it

[runic hinge]

Transmog

[balmy condor]

I'm surprised it's even around

they made a big blogpost with fancy statistics that didn't make any sense to try and claim class discords were the anti christ

[warped pilot]

are people using the sandglass in raid over the signet brand for ST strictly because they don't have signet yet or is sandglass just better even though sims saay signet?

[balmy condor]

and they got kekw'd out of the community

and that was the end of amr

might've been like 7.1?

[runic hinge]

They also make you pay after like 10 sims at least raidbots you just wait in line

[brazen zodiac]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[balmy condor]

sandglass is really good, especially on shorter fights

[strange python]

I know the only reason I'm using sandglass is I don't have signet

[unique sorrel]

I need to rat my raid lead so they stop giving the udh PI on pull so I can make number go up

[strange python]

But I do as the sim guides

[balmy condor]

on longer fights signet is pretty gud

[faint spoke]

On mythic 1st boss I saw a rogue that didn’t envenom before deathmark, is it so that he can burst with damage amps again?

Or is it just a random mistake

[lucid silo]

Signet needs up time bad

[woeful meteor]

mistake

[strange python]

Sounds like a mistake to meeeeeeeee

[balmy condor]

his raid probably does roots too fast so he skipped the envenom to get it up sooner, but he should've skipped the rupture instead

right idea

bad execution

[faint spoke]

Last week I did kind of bad on 1st and 2nd boss so I’m trying to read some more

[lusty ermine]

is there a progress bar WA that tracks the envenom buff?

[waxen oyster]

i mean first and second boss are kind of going to depend

on how much you can spatter

[faint spoke]

So he should garrote slice muti muti envenom deathmark?

[woeful meteor]

surely there is one on wago or make one yourself

[slate crown]

!wa Yes, go to my profile (LE) below and you'll find one

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[unique sorrel]

What’s the % loss on that goof? Any idea?

[empty timber]

Luxthos WA is great

[balmy condor]

pretty minimal

[obsidian galleon]

Can BoE gears be catalysted?

[waxen oyster]

yes

[balmy condor]

I think boe's can, crafted can't

[runic hinge]

LE has one in their standalone

[faint spoke]

Also, on first and 2nd should I ever fan?

[balmy condor]

fan on 3+

[faint spoke]

I play with a lot of aoe classes

[strange python]

@slate crown you've done great work. Love the KB and Branch trackers a lot. Ty for your hard work ❤️

[manic quartz]

whispyrs afenar edit > all

[slate crown]

[unique sorrel]

I need to redo my UI someday soon (again)

Love me a 3 hour UI spring cleaning

[lusty ermine]

thanks!

[faint spoke]

I feel like sometimes I fan and get only 1 point, does that happen regulary or the range is smaller?

Also fan even on shadowdance?

[manic quartz]

fucking uninstalled wow because had problem with it and lost all my addon settings so was forced to make new >_>

[tawdry crypt]

do I use garrote on cd, or just once every 18 seconds

[strange python]

Let it ride

[ruby lotus]

fan is only 1 cp unless it crits then one more for each crit if im not mistaken

[strange python]

Refresh with 2-3 seconds left

[unique sorrel]

I tend to tweak my UI every tier

Haven’t done it yet

[strange python]

But if you have used it out of stealth or shadow dance, let that one go all the way before refreshing

[tawdry crypt]

so I'm really only spending cp on envenom chaining, maintaining rupture bleed

and garrote bleed

do I use shiv outside of kb/mark?

[faint spoke]

The empowered garrote, do you literally let it fall? Or refresh at last second?

[strange python]

Let it fall

[manic quartz]

<=5.4s to be exact🤓

[runic hinge]

!pandemic

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[strange python]

My ADD will never allow me to be so exact

[faint spoke]

Tyvm for your answers!

Will try to do better today

[manic quartz]

Dont use shiv other than in KB window

[slate crown]

For single target with no weird encounter timings, no. Always together

[full solstice]

can someone decent drop their log

any log

i wanna see if theres anything im missing

[tawdry crypt]

so in kb window, I just shiv into envenom into shiv into vanish into empowered garrote?

[dusky nebula]

is 6% haste too low?

[slate crown]

!guide The sequencing of where Shiv happens is outlined in the rotation page here, there's a bunch of info there.

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[slate crown]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Mast = Crit = Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs like Witherbark's Branch and Wafting Devotion can often de-value the stat in question. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

[tawdry crypt]

yeah I'm reading it

I'm just trying to understand the basic flow.

[strange python]

Look at https://lorrgs.io/

Top parses, every boss

All classes and specs

[quiet oar]

Doing envenom chain is completely cringe on larodar

Or is it just me

[faint spoke]

Btw, if we make it to council today, should I try to shadowstep to spread dots or just st and splatter?

[tawdry crypt]

so I just send envenom no matter what at 4+? I thought I was supposed to wait until <1 seconds for tier

[manic quartz]

not while CD's are up, you pump during CD's

[quiet oar]

Spatter and carnage

[merry bison]

Someone told me that Whispyr is into furrys, wanted to check for confirmation

[full solstice]

holy fuck

[slate crown]

Big if true.

[full solstice]

how is this man doing 19m with just envenom

[quiet oar]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[slow needle]

Is carnage really worth? Other than the start I don't see much value.

[strange python]

If you click names you can go to the log it pulled from and deep dive from there

[quiet oar]

If your Tanks manage to Stack them

Iw would say yeah

[full solstice]

yeah im looking at it

[tawdry crypt]

do we just macro dance/kb

?

[strange python]

I dont

[slow needle]

In raid sure.

[quiet oar]

You can

[slow needle]

Not in M+

[runic hinge]

I do in m+ because I’m a monkey

I also don’t like Desync

[faint spoke]

But I just st and hope the bosses get the garrote? Or should I hold dances for stack windows?

[cerulean walrus]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[quiet oar]

You just send i would say

But the fight is chaotic af

And my tanks Stacks them quite often

[merry bison]

I hope Whispyr knows that he’ll never be able to win an argument ever again with that video wandering through the web

[quiet oar]

So it happened pretty often

[crimson zephyr]

guide says this is bis - what are random stats? how do I make sure they aren't some crap thing

also what embelishment?

[placid robin]

did i miss a memo or i got F'd? 😂

[south wing]

you use a missive to get the stats you want. The embellishment is the decay patch.

[crimson zephyr]

SL missives?

[placid robin]

draconic missive of something

[fluid glade]

its toxic patch, also stats vary on your gear profile, id go for crit/mastery or haste/mastery

[crimson zephyr]

how's that distribution?

[quiet oar]

You have to Set it so assa before completing

[placid robin]

well F me then, i forgot

[quiet oar]

If you Completed it, its already Too late

[fluid glade]

if ur top gear says thats the best gear then its the best distribution

[quiet oar]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Mast = Crit = Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs like Witherbark's Branch and Wafting Devotion can often de-value the stat in question. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

[waxen oyster]

the gear is random stats if you dont use a missive