assassination

[velvet marten]

Ya ok thought as much.

[clever sapphire]

only issue with AP build is that you dont get the satisfying pb procs

[steel ridge]

well, you are free of rng tho

[clever sapphire]

i have blindside rng instead

which also feels good

[steel ridge]

i mean i like spamming pb like the next guy, but not doing it is a welcome change aswell

[clever sapphire]

i enjoy pb in aoe, and blindside in st

[royal lantern]

yeha, but blindside procs make brain go brrrrrr with happy happy chemicals

[steel ridge]

blindside isnt the only chemicals you are on, isnt it

[royal lantern]

i was actually never drunk in my entire life tbh

[next flint]

I happy I made an assassinaton rouge in the end I have way more fun than with the bm hunter I also was afraid of switching to melee after only playing ranged but I did the current raid and it went way eassier and better than the bm hunter

[royal lantern]

fuck ranged

melee4ever

[clever sapphire]

only fun ranged is arcane

because i get to go in melee

for building my cp

[royal lantern]

if you are not hitting the air bettwen the legs of an enemy 40x your size

are you even playing wow?

[clever sapphire]

im on floor pov duty mostly in raid

so i wouldnt know

[upper jolt]

how accurate is simming for assa spec?

[clever sapphire]

very

[next flint]

I do have a question tough I’m using a single target build for raid and an aoe mythic build for m+ both I got from icy veins I’m still learning but often when I’m doing mythics when I start using my aoes fan of knives and crimson tempest I start starving for energy is it common should I avoid spamming aoes or am i doing something wrong

[upper jolt]

ok so i suck

[clever sapphire]

did you sim with all raidbuffs and start hitting a targetdummy?

[upper jolt]

i did quick sim ig everything was on

and i had no buffs on me

[clever sapphire]

sounds like you didnt spread any bleeds and straight up skipped to spamming fok

[upper jolt]

left it as is

[clever sapphire]

well do a quick sim without raidbuffs

you can turn them off at the bottom

[ashen rover]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[next flint]

Might’ve

[clever sapphire]

btw guys, were you also as smart as me, went into the council fight with spatter and proceeded to always hit the guy that was standing alone?

[jaunty ginkgo]

Is it ever worth trying to spread ruptures during IC when you have KB and DM up on a target?

[next flint]

Again I’m still learning so by spreading bleeds my energy recovery gets higher ?

[jaunty ginkgo]

haha that fight is so chaotic anyway it's hard to stick to 2 together

[clever sapphire]

you get energy back if you have ruptures on targets, you also get % agility for having ruptures on targets. Your garrote will be your highest dmg in aoe most likely

so spreading garrote/rupture during ic will benefit you more than doing fok

after you spread out like 6-8 garrote/ruptures, you can go into the fok-envenom chain

probably answered both of your questions

[surreal citrus]

make sure you keep caustic spatter up in aoe - you can't just keep using fok as your combo builder

[clever sapphire]

(also whispyrs youtube has aoe/st and a lot of stuff explained)

[latent onyx]

ye sounds about right lol

[surreal citrus]

need a mut in there every so often

[latent onyx]

I feel like we almost never cleaved 2 at once

[clever sapphire]

oh we were, i was just dumb and always went to pip who was alone

xD

i had like 35M on pip, 9M on the other 2 each

[surreal citrus]

hitting pip is a dps gain cus fuck that guy

[latent onyx]

lol

[clever sapphire]

my spatter was 1/3rd of the other assas spatter

[next flint]

Um how do I spread the bleeds tough do garrote/rupture to one target switch to a new target and rinse and repeat ?

[latent onyx]

hit pip to get their trinket

[clever sapphire]

hit pip to get your anger out

[next flint]

Nvm

[clever sapphire]

IC (indiscriminate carnage) is a talent where garrote/rupture goes to 2 additional targets for 10sec after/during stealth

[spring socket]

whats better for 17

[clever sapphire]

bm

dh

[spring socket]

soz, hwats better for 17 plus keys aterial shock or hybrid ?

jeez cant type today

[surreal citrus]

they're basically the same

[clever sapphire]

would say ap

because mobs explode there

so sudden demise dmg should account for more

and thats what ap is good at

[unique sorrel]

Whatever feels better for you to play tbh

[clever sapphire]

(and a lot more but this was the simple explanation)

[unique sorrel]

Numbers aren’t as big of a stress for a 17

[next flint]

Ok thx

[unique sorrel]

I pretty much play AP on everything below a 20

Or any PUG

[next flint]

So stealth garrote and rapture to spread bleeds around

[clever sapphire]

i do above 20 too, because ap sims higher in ST currently

[clever sapphire]

yap

[surreal citrus]

I'm doing ap on tyr weeks because shit dies before my kb finishes

[next flint]

Ok gonna practice

Thx

[clever sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st6UJOP5Ok4

this cute guy explains everything aoe related

[next flint]

I’m enjoying the class love classes built on bleeds and poison

[clever sapphire]

would give it a watch

its really helpful

[next flint]

Will do

[clever sapphire]

true

one thing i found out

hold your cooldowns for second pull always

bm and dh players use everything on first pull

no reason to even unstealth at that point

[next flint]

Il also watch his st video probably

[vital haven]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[clever sapphire]

i found all of his videos helpful, even though i kinda knew a lot of this already

[next flint]

Last question is the icy veins builds good enough to follow right

[clever sapphire]

i never checked icy veins, whats the build?

but assa faq points there

[native heron]

I need a idiot level explination on how to pool energy. I'm not quiet grasping it. for some reason its just not clickin in my head.

[clever sapphire]

so im gonna do a bold move and say yes

[limber lion]

Yes

Both Wowhead and IcyVeins are great and up to date

[clever sapphire]

you have 0 energy, you take a 13 sec smoke break

[limber lion]

Choose the one that you like reading more

[next flint]

Ok

[spice spire]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[latent onyx]

pooling clicked for me when I realised I was spamming mut / envoment and just ran out each time

[native heron]

Thank you for this. My co-workers now think im crazy laughing loud... haha

[limber lion]

I wonder if the snapshot command I wrote in Sepulcher is still uo

[spice spire]

Also a video for visual

[limber lion]

!snapshot

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of snapshotting

Bleeds update their tick rate dynamically, which means that if you get a haste proc (which increases our tick rate) from somewhere during the encounter (ie. Flagellation, Euphoria), the bleeds would automatically tick faster, but the second your haste goes back to normal, the tick rate goes back down as well.

Snapshotting refers to getting that haste proc, reapplying bleeds at the faster tick rate, but instead of the bleeds going back to a slower tick rate when your haste drops, they would continue ticking at a faster rate until they expire or are reapplied.

[limber lion]

Sheesh

[spice spire]

Let’s go

Cracked

[limber lion]

Should probably rewrite that

[spice spire]

Flag snapshotting

[clever sapphire]

!logs

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[clever sapphire]

this should probably get changed

since its not up to date yet right?

[spice spire]

True

But then I gotta log review

[drifting cedar]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DWxXcn8adg6CjAmr
Would someone help me with this Smolderon Heroic fight? Thanks in advance

[limber lion]

Perfect timing, Gav.

[clever sapphire]

i suck at log reviews, wouldnt be able to review my own log even if i tried

[drifting cedar]

Hahahaha

[clever sapphire]

i struggle to find my buffs sometime even on logs

[spice spire]

Gav Log Review

[limber lion]

Where's the assa rogue

[native heron]

tyvm ❤️

[drifting cedar]

Tindral sorry

[dark token]

Cev I need you to play assa on mythic smolderon so I can stop playing sub

[clever sapphire]

he never said the spec, smh

[limber lion]

Bro I haven't even killed Fyrakk on normal or the tree on heroic

[dark token]

[limber lion]

Why are people playing Sub on Smold anyways

[cunning basin]

F

[limber lion]

Just timing?

[clever sapphire]

ya

[cunning basin]

Better cd timings

[clever sapphire]

fits sub timings

[upbeat pebble]

!track

[cunning basin]

Assa cd timings are pretty cringe

[clever sapphire]

they have cooldowns for every burst window

[spice spire]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[limber lion]

I see, just a bunch of sheep

Unlucky

[cunning basin]

First intermission is at 1:10 and they're 1:40 apart

[dark token]

We have an assa

[spice spire]

Talk your shit

Tell those frauds

[clever sapphire]

dunno, i just use kb on pull, dm first intermission, kb second, dm tird and so on

but thats heroic

[cunning basin]

I mean still kinda giga cringe. Plus the damage amp doesn't even last long enough for a full kingsbane

[clever sapphire]

yap

[median agate]

Assa CD timings are a bit cringe for sure, but feel like it's more the fact that it's hard to get a full KB window out with the dancing, the shorter sub burst works out better (and cd timing ofc)

[clever sapphire]

i will think about it when i get there in 2 months

[cunning basin]

Smolderon is cursed honestly

Not as cursed as council

[smoky leaf]

Talking just smolderon?

[clever sapphire]

i will cook up some none kb build for that fight

[cunning basin]

Yeah

[median agate]

Yes

[clever sapphire]

some sepsis shittery

[cunning basin]

I'll see you at the bottom of the meter

[smoky leaf]

Yea I'm dreading going sub for that fight

[clever sapphire]

no kb, sepsis

[dark token]

Sub is actually longer burst eindow

It's 24 seconds

[cunning basin]

Why dreading? Sub slaps

[dark token]

Assa is shorter

[clever sapphire]

1:30 sepsis should fit inside every intermission no?

or is it too long

[smoky leaf]

No idea how to play it and my plate is full learning assassin as an outlaw main 😂

[cunning basin]

Isn't that just SB tho? Normal dance windows are short

[clever sapphire]

just learn sub as an outlaw main

problem solved

[cunning basin]

Oh f. It's not that bad tbh. I need reps with new sub too, all my sub was last tier

[smoky leaf]

But sin is better on like almost every fight

[dark token]

Yes but what do you think you do every intermission

Flag dance vanish blades dance dance

It's like 24-30s

[cunning basin]

Ah right, dust

I am stupid

[clever sapphire]

cap, thats what zac made you think so he can get easier 100 logs on outlaw

so all the outlaw players go other specs

[cunning basin]

I forgot dust existed because I try to block it out of my memory

[smoky leaf]

Rofl

[clever sapphire]

i found the way for assa

every time you start pooling, you do pushups during pooling

we gonna be jacked at the end of the season

[cunning basin]

No we already determined it's a DPS increase to alt tab and shit post in RH while pooling

[clever sapphire]

tell the aug/priest to reposition you if needed

[lavish wing]

almost died when i saw a new pin notif, i was like "its nerf" 😄

jebaited

[cunning basin]

If you're not shit posting in RH while pooling why even pool

[clever sapphire]

you guys pooling so much, i could take a swim in it

[cunning basin]

My homie that doesn't play rogue regularly was watching me stream on a boss he was out for and this mf went

Do you have 300 energy? Wtf?

[grim jay]

@midnight mist ssination is getting doubted

[cunning basin]

Like yeah bro that rework built DIFFY

[lavish wing]

everything between KBs is pooling 😄

[clever sapphire]

and did you go: "bro why did you wake me up on my speed nap"

[midnight mist]

who is doubting me

[cunning basin]

Had to tab back in to answer

[dark token]

Why are people doubting

If it didn't get nerfed this week it's not getting nerfed

[cunning basin]

Was busy posting my dust meme

[midnight mist]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif?width=337&height=600

[grim jay]

#assassination message

[cunning basin]

SHEEEEESH

[grim jay]

They just dont know how serious zacssination is

[clever sapphire]

zac is on sub duty currently, of course im doubting

[midnight mist]

ye

[median agate]

I mean, we are just last seasons Demo locks? Kinda mid without PI and Augs

[midnight mist]

I have had enough with sin already tbh

[dark token]

Sin is chillin

[midnight mist]

will prolly do tindral as sub

[cunning basin]

Sin still really good without externals tho

[midnight mist]

and try to get outlaw on fyrak

fyrak is a decent outlaw boss

[clever sapphire]

why no outlaw on tindral

[midnight mist]

bro

[dark token]

Cap

Ped

[midnight mist]

outlaw is prolly the worse spec in the game on tyndral

[grim jay]

Is it zactlety the man the myth the legend?

[clever sapphire]

because of the dragon flight?

[midnight mist]

ye

[clever sapphire]

im smart

[cunning basin]

Downtime L

[midnight mist]

prolonged downtime is even worse than it was before for outlaw

[clever sapphire]

so outlaw hates dawn

[drowsy flame]

Wonder what the sin nerf will be. Maybe flat aura nerf

[midnight mist]

do you remember frost mage in SL

with the thing you had to always maintain

[grim jay]

Read the pin

[midnight mist]

and if you died it was over

[cunning basin]

If they hit us it'll be KB

[midnight mist]

outlaw feel similar to that rn

[cunning basin]

But for right now we got no nerfs POG

[midnight mist]

if you lose adr uptime you just hit like a noodle for 10 min

you cant do shit anymore

[clever sapphire]

now i know why i didnt like outlaw

i only did gala with outlaw

and half the key is portals

[midnight mist]

and these type of bosses punish outlaw so much

[grim jay]

Dang thats 2 pulls

[midnight mist]

you lose 4 p + adr + everything

[smoky leaf]

Zac is it true you convinced us law mains to go sin this tier so u could steal all the law parses for yourself

[midnight mist]

you are at your weakest for the shield burst phase btw

so funny

[cunning basin]

Yeah downtime hurts so bad for outlaw it's turbo annoying

[digital coral]

Outlaw is like legion s2m spriest. You mess up you may as well die.

[midnight mist]

But larodar tilted me out of sin

[limber merlin]

a nub question here, How can we make our Caustic Spatter do Imba dmg after i Garrote Rupture Mutilate Shiv Envenom the Primary target on who i have Caustic debuff

[grim jay]

Such deep life advise

[midnight mist]

I got KB parried 4 times

I dont want to play sin anymore

[clever sapphire]

press kb

that cleaves too

[cunning basin]

That hurts bro, I'm here for you

[clever sapphire]

can relate, got depression each time

[cunning basin]

Painge

[smoky leaf]

Your kb can get parried?? ain't no way

[midnight mist]

also I failed my kill pull

I had a good strat

but I failed the execution gg

[fallen knoll]

Didn't even know it can get parried

[midnight mist]

could have gotten my first orange as sin

[clever sapphire]

outlaw mains and planning, doesnt go hand in hand

[cunning basin]

I got my KB parried at the literal end of iridikron in a 21 and we wiped

[midnight mist]

fall last boss can parry btw

[limber merlin]

Ohh thank u so much

[midnight mist]

hope you guys will enjoy that

when KB get parried during burst phase

[clever sapphire]

40 keys, like 5 parries

fun

[midnight mist]

and you deplete on that

[clever sapphire]

really

[midnight mist]

[cunning basin]

See above

[spice surge]

Odyn in halls could parry too

[clever sapphire]

just press cloak, go behind him, press kb, shadowstep on teammates

[grim jay]

Im already enjoying for quite some time

[clever sapphire]

problem solved

[midnight mist]

just play outlaw and dont care about parry

[spice surge]

Mfers coding dungeon bosses like raid bosses

[midnight mist]

well if gs get parried its a bit sad but eh

we go again 15s later

all good

[cunning basin]

P sure I never lived a rune phase without divine intervention on tyrannical week

[clever sapphire]

didnt play outlaw for some time now, now my hands dont like outlaw if i do more than 3 keys

[clever sapphire]

precloak the dmg

duh

[median agate]

I've gotten too old for outlaw

[spice surge]

You didnt know about the cloak tech?

[midnight mist]

been doing 10+h of a keys a day during the weekend the past weeks

[cunning basin]

I didn't know shit man I'd been playing rogue for 3 weeks LMAO

[fallen knoll]

Iridikron definitely my fav boss from the whole expansion tbh

[midnight mist]

NAH

[clever sapphire]

ye my hands are used to feral/assa/arcane

[midnight mist]

bro didnt know the cloak tech

how do you even live this boss

bro just cloak

so easy

me when I cloak and grapple trough everything

easiest boss of my life

[clever sapphire]

i remember when my rlead told me to cloak zskarn bombs

[median agate]

Just always stand next to the right rune, 50/50 chance of being the right one

[clever sapphire]

more like 20%

5 runes

[cunning basin]

I remember that same thing happening to me

[clever sapphire]

i tested it, and said "so ye i used cheat death instead, can we not do this anymore"

[median agate]

Either it is, or it isn't. 50/50

[cunning basin]

Based

[clever sapphire]

fair enough

[grim jay]

Baited

[thorn fjord]

Been running HO in keys and it’s been pretty fun so far.. my brain couldn’t figure out kir

[fiery flower]

@marble hemlock i'm sleeping

[cunning basin]

I played the kir build for half a key and was like nah we not doin this

[grim jay]

Sleepwriting

[clever sapphire]

kir is weird, i have a dead keybind for ambush

[thorn fjord]

Yeah seriously

[marble hemlock]

didnt ask

can you

kill boss or?

[thorn fjord]

[fiery flower]

Not sure

[cunning basin]

Idk how to do shit with that build and I don't want to know

That shit is cursed

I'll keep my HO thank you

[marble hemlock]

youre getting beat by a guild with >1k pulls

[fiery flower]

We still have a hard part left

[grim jay]

Dn is cursed

[marble hemlock]

wont you just skip it with gear from next week?

[burnt venture]

Everyone says KiR is cursed until you roll your first 60s 5-6buff

[clever sapphire]

the cursed part is, ER and SD are on the same keybind for me because we never used both

[burnt venture]

That drug is hella

[fiery flower]

I mean it will for sure die next week

[thorn fjord]

Yep I really tried… i kept fumbling everything and my damage was hot dog water

[cunning basin]

DUDE IM SO GLAD IM NOT THE ONLY ONE

[fiery flower]

Just don't know about tonight

[marble hemlock]

hmm aight

[cunning basin]

I was like WHERE THE FUCK DO I PUT ER

[marble hemlock]

wouldve died already with ashine on rogue and you on ret

[fiery flower]

It definatelt could

[clever sapphire]

yap, doesnt fit anywhere

[cunning basin]

ER and SD are always on 9 for me, I've never played both

[fiery flower]

Then we would have no windfury

[marble hemlock]

someone can slave for that

[fiery flower]

That would be me

[clever sapphire]

F for me, i tried putting dance on R and echoing in F but somehow doesnt work, i pressed echoing half the time when i wanted to dance

and in reverse too

[cunning basin]

F is my old ambush keybind that still has ambush on it cuz idk what to put there

[thorn fjord]

My whole thing was having to start with GS to the ER

Then dance

Feels so weird

[clever sapphire]

q for ambush, and i still use it for ambush, with or without blindside

im not gonna press my mutilate bind

for ambush

[cunning basin]

Yeah I was like under my tank in dps

And was like aight I'm swappin

[thorn fjord]

I got rid of my ambush key outside of stealth and just send it from mutilate

Haven’t had issues

[cunning basin]

KiR and dust are now officially my two least favorite talents in all trees

[thorn fjord]

I like dust actually Lolol

If sub had better consistent aoe I’d be running that

[cunning basin]

You'll never be able to tell if I like dust or not

[clever sapphire]

ye im not doing that, tried it, i dont get the same enjoyment from blindside procs thatway

[cunning basin]

Yeah honestly same I liked sub a lot more for keys but meh

[thorn fjord]

Ran sub all s2

[cunning basin]

Same

[thorn fjord]

And the ST rotation right now is pretty fluid imo

But it sucks sending tornado on a pack of like 5 mobs and feeling like you hit like a wet noodle

[cunning basin]

Yeahhhhhh

I ain't about that xd

[thorn fjord]

Finishing fights close to 200k on non tyrannical tho

Sub might creep back up at some point in keys

[cunning basin]

The rework hit real good for me tho. Was already learning sin so I would be able to play all 3 specs and now all 3 specs are genuinely incredibly fun

[thorn fjord]

But yeah HO is the play if you don’t like sin in keys which I don’t

[cunning basin]

I feel like I could definitely see myself one tricking rogue

I actually like sin in keys. There's a lot going on but it makes my brain like, calm

[thorn fjord]

Nah see that’s where I start fucking up mechanics lol

[latent onyx]

as a brand new rogue and recently returning player, outlaw was easier to pick up for keys, but after a bit of practice sin is starting to feel really good

[thorn fjord]

Gotta keep the brain running at like 30% power

[latent onyx]

and I dont have to press 1000000 buttons a second

[clever sapphire]

i find assa chill in keys, outlaw is more hectic for me

[sweet dawn]

I've been playing assa since that's what I was playing before, did some lower keys as outlaw and I gotta be honest pressing BtE 6 times in a row is lovely

[cunning basin]

I can't use 30% of one brain cell

It's all I got left

[latent onyx]

outlaw APM just made it too hard to focus on mechanics for me

but I might just be old and slow

[thorn fjord]

I got 9 in a row the other day lol it is definitely satisfying

[clever sapphire]

oh ye when you get the procs its just , but when you get 0 procs its

[cunning basin]

I love when you just keep getting them and after like the 3rd one it's like... Okay? ...okay?! ... ALRIGHT?!?!

[sweet dawn]

I like the noise the combo point reset thing makes

the little reload noise

[cunning basin]

Literally the best part

[thorn fjord]

You should hear my game with all the sound ques I have set up lol

[clever sapphire]

i usually dont hear anything because music too loud

[sweet dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/keep-coming-gif-15171776

[cunning basin]

Shit is A+

[thorn fjord]

Audacity proc is a gunshot I got a wiggle sound for when dance is ending

[clever sapphire]

zacs wa has nice sounds

[thorn fjord]

FTH procs all that shit.. sounds like a fucking circus

The crack shot WA works nice for sin too

[clever sapphire]

the wat

how does that work

[thorn fjord]

It’s similar to the KB WA only it tracks SD time and Therm

[clever sapphire]

do i take a shot of crack each time i pool?

ah

i just track SD in my brain

[strange python]

Hi guys new to the discord, just picked my rogue back up, and I feel this. At least the first part where as a returning player Outlaw is easier to pick up, but I don’t know if I wanna switch to Sin or Sub, both look solid but I think I still have a “you have to have mega insane IQ to even try to touch sin or sub rogue”. I mean I do like Outlaw but a slightly slower rotation would be nice

[clever sapphire]

my brain big enough for 1 number

[brave stump]

without t31 in m+ i focus on above 50% energy instead of chaining envenom?

[clever sapphire]

both is just learning patterns i would say

[clever sapphire]

yap

[spice surge]

I think outlaw is preceived as easy because you dont really notice as much when you screw up

[thorn fjord]

Sin and OL play a flow chart style rotation and sub is still pretty similar to S2

[spice surge]

Because its just small things that eventually add up

Compared to "oh fuck i dont have deathmark up for bloodlust", which is quite noticeable

[clever sapphire]

@midnight mist outlaw is easy

lets see

[thorn fjord]

Pretty sure he has a screen shot for that lolol

[midnight mist]

I think that was true before

rn you get so mega fucked

everytime you miss a gcd

[spice surge]

Well ye if you get cd on bte during stealth

[thorn fjord]

Yeah if you accidentally send a BTE it really sucks

[midnight mist]

ye and like everytime you make a mistake you will lose uptime on adr and then feel like mega shit

[clever sapphire]

whats the best outlaw key

[midnight mist]

hm

[clever sapphire]

like the most fun as outlaw

[thorn fjord]

EB is really nice

[midnight mist]

I mean everbloom

[thorn fjord]

Juicy pulls

[midnight mist]

but thats like every spe

c

you do 500k overall in eb its quite fun

[thorn fjord]

WM is nice too

[midnight mist]

nah

walls

and boss that stuns

terrible dungeon

[clever sapphire]

time to test it out, im tired of gala

[warm parcel]

To me law is much chiller in keys

[midnight mist]

I think its funny how you can feel the difference between WM and EB

[warm parcel]

Fuck tabbing and dotting around

[thorn fjord]

Tree boss has it out for me actually yeah lolol

[midnight mist]

like EB is so simple in design

[warm parcel]

Just blast bte on cd

[midnight mist]

but its very fun

[latent onyx]

go sin, you wont regret it

[midnight mist]

its a terrible outlaw boss

cause then you miss out on adr uptime and do 0 damage for the entire boss

you get 2 in a row its gg

[clever sapphire]

i always get the stun thing when i press kb/dm

[thorn fjord]

End at like 100k lol

[midnight mist]

well thats a you issue bozo

[spice surge]

How fun EB is as assa depends a lot on how you pull

[clever sapphire]

my team took so long, my cooldowns ran out

i was like "ye lets just deplete, i dont care anymore"

[median agate]

Or if there is a DH

[clever sapphire]

but dh ruins everything

[strange python]

That’s what I was leaning towards tbh. Just need to try get another dagger from somewhere then I can make the switch

[median agate]

Yea, just feels most noticable in EB cause of all the small shitter flowers. Fall is kinda cursed in parts aswell, but mostly have some high health targets we can blast

[clever sapphire]

ye true

[spice surge]

Idk im mostly referring to if you do a decently big pull with a big dude

[midnight mist]

ngl sin feels a bit weird in keys for now

shit dies too fast for your cds

[spice surge]

Like as assa its really nice to pull the big tree

[midnight mist]

but you can feel the potential of the spec tho

[clever sapphire]

do higher keys

[spice surge]

Because you can DM it and destroy every single flower

[clever sapphire]

(you probably already doing higher than me )

[midnight mist]

I dont think anyone does high enough keys for sin yet

so

[latent onyx]

dreamsurge and time rift weekly, can buy any stlot and upgrade to 450

[midnight mist]

dies too fast in 25 this week still

[clever sapphire]

if we ever pull it, its always solo

[thorn fjord]

I'm only doing 20's and dont plan on going much higher

[midnight mist]

??

[clever sapphire]

not my group, my group just skips it

but pugs play it solo

[midnight mist]

no shot you would pull that big dude solo

[clever sapphire]

and bl it

im confused

[midnight mist]

lol

idk what he does even

always skipped it

[clever sapphire]

silence

root

[thorn fjord]

But if you kill him in EB he wont be there in Raid

CONTINUITY

[clever sapphire]

well root than slience

silence*

[midnight mist]

oh wiat

[clever sapphire]

but you cant do anything during silence

[midnight mist]

its the raid boss?

[strange python]

Will the sin FAQ section get more love soon?

[midnight mist]

wtf

[subtle tundra]

these breakdowns are quite funny

[clever sapphire]

where sd

[thorn fjord]

Not enough envenoms

[subtle tundra]

not talented bud

[clever sapphire]

wut

[thorn fjord]

[clever sapphire]

what build is that

[subtle tundra]

council build

a.k.a. IC instead of dashing

full st

[thorn fjord]

Why wouldnt you take SD

[clever sapphire]

that would explain why ct is also missing

[subtle tundra]

cause i cant?

[thorn fjord]

weird

[subtle tundra]

i like this build

not gonna lie

[median agate]

Same

[clever sapphire]

is the council build on wowhead or somewhere?

gotta try it

[subtle tundra]

its just the ST build with ic instead of dashing

[clever sapphire]

ye just wanted to say

[midnight mist]

and spatter

[thorn fjord]

But the ST build takes dance

im confused

[subtle tundra]

and iron wire instead of improved poison

[clever sapphire]

well spatter is obvious

[thorn fjord]

or is it the non dance st build

[upper jolt]

my breakdown gives me breakdown

[subtle tundra]

i have dance

what

[thorn fjord]

then wtf is sd lol

[subtle tundra]

sudden demise?

[clever sapphire]

sudden demise

[thorn fjord]

ohhhhh

derpaderp

[clever sapphire]

smh

[midnight mist]

!abb

[prisma monolith]

Rogue abbreviations: http://www.ravenholdt.net/rogue-abbreviations/

[clever sapphire]

you guys wiped last boss didnt you

[midnight mist]

gg not updated

[upper jolt]

not last boss

[clever sapphire]

wait which one is dickron

second?

i dont know names yet

[upper jolt]

the one with the balls

i think

[subtle tundra]

i mean, you did a +10 or whatever

[clever sapphire]

second got it

[upper jolt]

14

[subtle tundra]

you dont have time to do splatter

[upper jolt]

[subtle tundra]

not a difference

[upper jolt]

so its normal?

[subtle tundra]

i dont have time to do splatter in 20s

[clever sapphire]

dh deletes everything up to 22

or even higher didnt try yet

[subtle tundra]

i love envenom being literally 20% of my dmg, not counting splatter aoe

[clever sapphire]

a finisher doing a lot of dmg, pls nerf

[subtle tundra]

and not counting poison bomb

which is 6%

so i think its like 30% of my dmg from envenoms

kraked

[slim hamlet]

Which weapon rune is the default in simc?

[spring socket]

BUZZ i think

[gray hazel]

That’s the crit one right?

[clever sapphire]

[thorn fjord]

We want hissing tho iirc

[clever sapphire]

me use hissing cause its cheaper

me never sim cause i hear hissing better

me happy

[oak tangle]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[hasty gate]

is there a place in the discord about rogue macros

[clever sapphire]

ask about the macro you want, if its rogue related you might find someone with an answer

and if its spec related ask in the spec channel for it

[hasty gate]

well i see some people using mouseover envenom and things so wondering if that better to use vs targeting and im bad at makin macros

[vast loom]

mouseover envenom seems very wack

[thorn fjord]

That seems sus af

degen play

[clever sapphire]

mouseover can miss more often than not (yet im still using mouseover kick/rupture/garrote)

[thorn fjord]

I only use mouseover step

[celest tinsel]

Hello my fellow rogues i have a question about poison which should i have applied in a raid? i can have 4 poisions up and im lost 😄

[thorn fjord]

and focus target

[thorn fjord]

Deadly and amp

[velvet marten]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4LnWzXaWbQQSgqg36WambQ
So i know this wont be perfect but im trying to understand how the hell im over dpsing this in a 5 target dummy cleave with a AoE rotation cant tell if this is good or not tbh.
Again new to rouge so was just wondering what's going on here if im heading down the right path or not lmfao.
Note: Same outcome for https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hKKEaWVpdiR5UWHpxAJ5wv

[slate crown]

Personally, I use mouseover casting. Many people don't, but I have gotten used to it and like it. This makes all ability default to mouseover casting. It is, however, not perfect, and you have to be aware of it and be careful.

But I don't have specific mouseover macros for this, it's just generally how all spells work for me now

[thorn fjord]

Sociopath behavior

[slate crown]

[thorn fjord]

I would fuck that up waaaaay too much

[slate crown]

I mean it does have fuckup moments but

So does specific targetting

I fuck up in either case sometimes

Either way it's not for everyone

just something to consider

[robust scaffold]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[hasty gate]

i know mouseover is a learning curve though i just want to improve ya know and do whatever i can my raid dmg is good but when i go into m+ my aoe pulls are lacking dmg so trying to fix that

[slate crown]

I'll say this, the important things to mouseover are bleeds for spreading them and CC (blind/ks/kick), and probably tricks as well if you use tricks

As cursed mentioned

And step is an option, but you have to be careful with step mouseovers

because allies can be targets, step mouseover more oftent than not fucks up and goes to someone you don't intend because your intended ally moves away from your mouse as you cast, causing you to lose mouseover and go to your target (which can maybe sometimes possbily result in you shadowstepping a Rashok smash circle onto the boss instead of a far away ally and get you laughed at, maybe, that could have happened to someone before >.<)

[thorn fjord]

I couldnt function without step mouseover

[slate crown]

Yeah for sure, I use it, just be aware you need to be careful

Mouseover to a unit frame is great

mouseover to an ally in the field is... risky

but still helpful

[thorn fjord]

Now that we're on the topic

Can i get my mouse over focus target to work on raid frames?

[willow kite]

I do mouseover as well, but only specific abilities

rupture, garrote, blind, KS etc

[short moon]

haste minimum cap for m+?

[latent onyx]

I need to make one for KS actually thanks

[hasty gate]

also do people like to macro kingsbane with Shadowdance so they cast same time

[midnight atlas]

it works with shadowstep if you are in range

should work with focus also

[clever sapphire]

i personally dont, but ik that a lot of people do

[woeful hollow]

!Fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[split zinc]

question,why does assassa has to restealth in m+ after every pull

[robust scaffold]

@slate crown I know Atrocity uses your kingsbane timeline tracker for his UI, but I want to add the extra visual like you have here on the wago page for your WA. But the WA in his UI doesn't seem to have an option to turn on "Extra tick visual" in Custom Options. Is it somewhere else, or is this hopeless?

[midnight atlas]

preferably yes but sometimes you won't if tank chain pulls.

[obtuse island]

Empowering bleeds and getting IC up probably main ones

[thorn fjord]

Oh those little icons are nice

[clever sapphire]

https://youtu.be/DoZDPFk_Zog?si=2PJ1yqvgHTmxsExk

[obtuse island]

But with dance being 1 min you can use that if you aren’t about to get to a boss

[robust scaffold]

ya atrocity's UI doesn't have the option to turn those little icons on, at least from what I can see :\

[thorn fjord]

Not using atrocities but if you figure it out lmk… I’d like to add that haha

[robust scaffold]

just import the whole tracker from here if you wanna try it out! https://wago.io/8WWlvpYa9

it's pretty optimal

[thorn fjord]

I have the tracker

I just want the icons

Looks nice

[robust scaffold]

oh it's in custom options

[thorn fjord]

Ohhh

[robust scaffold]

type /wa

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/borat-borat-very-nice-verynice-thumbs-up-gif-25080066

[robust scaffold]

try it lmk if it works

😮

[thorn fjord]

Will do in a bit

[hushed fern]

do we cast deathmark>shadowdance>KB in opener?

[thorn fjord]

Dm shiv sd kb

[clever sapphire]

deathmark shiv dance kb

close enough

[slate crown]

Does it not? Mine works on raid frames without a problem

[thorn fjord]

I prob dont have it turned on

[vestal cliff]

If i go out of Energy in single target should i play different?

[thorn fjord]

Oh wrong thing... Yeah for whatever reason mouse over focus on raid frames does not work for me

I have to mouse over the actual player

[slate crown]

Is Atrocity one of those paid UI packs behind a sub? or am I thinking of someone else?

[robust scaffold]

ye

[slate crown]

Oh

That's neat

[spice surge]

You are intended to run out of energy on singletarget

[slate crown]

Cool to have my work pulled and put behind a paywall without being asked

[robust scaffold]

wait what

i swear he says "thanks to lisonna"

LOL

[spice surge]

The way we play is to generally offload those periods of downtime to when we dont have cooldowns and make sure we have energy for when we do have cooldowns

[slate crown]

I mean I don't know who Atrocity really is, I've heard the name, but I was never asked. It's not a requirement, it's fine. Just would be nice

[vestal cliff]

Ah okay thanks!!

[slate crown]

Either way, to answer your questions

[thorn fjord]

@slate crown def missed this option in your WA

[robust scaffold]

that's sad 😦

[slate crown]

The newer versions have the tick option

So just grab from the wago link directly to get the icons

[slate crown]

Yeah that's in the newer versions

[thorn fjord]

Gotta update on my home rig for tonight

[robust scaffold]

yeah I'd have to manipulate it to look the same and be the same size as his WA pack

[final star]

there is resize code in the actions if I recall

just have to add it

and then display

[slate crown]

What are you looking to size differently?

[final star]

they have dynamic sizing of bar widths

because their aura changes width depending on talents

so they resize energy, cp etc to match

as well as move play and target frames etc

with position controllers

[slate crown]

got it

[final star]

pretty sure mal just added the resize code to the actions tab alongside ur code

and it just works

Thank you for adding the embersoul tick btw

very based

[slate crown]

🫡

[final star]

I made it say "Nuke" when it goes past it

[slate crown]

nice

[distant jackal]

Sorry, I'm new to assa and only learning. Aren't we supposed to keep energy above 50% outside of cds to benefit the talent that lets your dots do more dmg? I forgot the name of the talent

[spice spire]

Sanguine blades

[obsidian walrus]

any good video breakdown on rotations for sin roguy\e

[slate crown]

Yeah just feels a bit weird having it go up behind a wall, I put my stuff out for free because I want the tools widely available you know? Nothing new on the internet. I know it's modified to fit the pack, but making sure updates are in place and such can be weird

[obsidian walrus]

given the dps discrepency it seems time to shift from sub

[final star]

I will always make sure he keeps it up to date if he has to

[slate crown]

(Without being pinged at all)

[spice spire]

https://youtube.com/@whispyr5793?si=BnImZ-JOj49GsuXF

There’s a ton of them here

[grim jay]

Whats a roguy\e

[obsidian walrus]

im a roguy\e

new class, does low damage

[storm ridge]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[final trench]

How do you actually AOE in this spec, feels way underwhelming to outlaw, but outlaw feels way underwhelming on single target. lol.

I am 470 with 4 p, outside of my first stealth garrote and rupture w/ indiscriminate carnage, my damage is garbage on aoe.

[slim pebble]

I don’t think you’re doing it right. I’m 459 with old tier and keeping up with more AoE heavy specs in m+. Have you watched whispyrs aoe video

[subtle tundra]

You're giving us 0 info to work with

[clever sapphire]

Do more than 1 garrote and rupture

Thats the first pointer

[obsidian walrus]

thank you sir/maam

[spice spire]

🫡

[manic quartz]

anyone else use @balmy condor plater profile and can help me with it, for some reason the HP bar of the mobs flash sometimes rapidly as white and i dont really like that, is there way to turn it off.

[thorn fjord]

How much of a loss is it to just send env rather than waiting for the 1s

Because im an antsy mother fucker and waiting over spamming env hurts my soul

[slate crown]

Probably a lot

[slate crown]

I too have attention problems.

[thorn fjord]

How am i still parsing purple/orange then? lol

I really dont want to have to stagger 😦

[slate crown]

Idn, I mean the majority of our damage is in burst windows

[final trench]

I assumed, that it would be assumed that I was doing it more than once.

To be more specific...my single target is great, my AOE I am having trouble doing any damage, by the time im applying all my bleeds on things they are dying, even in higher keys, so I end up defaulting to keeping it up on a few targets, keeping SND up, and envonming when I can.

I know I am doing something wrong, but from readin the guides I am unable to dilinate as of what.

[spice spire]

Buddy of mine picked up sin two weeks ago and already has a top ten on a mythic kill

[slate crown]

So maybe it's not a whole lot.

[spice spire]

With a ton of mistakes

[subtle tundra]

You don't really apply alllll bleeds

[slim pebble]

Are you running arterial precision in keys?

[thorn fjord]

ah

[oak tangle]

dw this reset we're back to fort, pop off on packs king

[spice spire]

Parses might be easier

[subtle tundra]

You get 2 casts of garrote and 2 of rupture

And then ct

Most of the time

[thorn fjord]

Ugh now to add another thing to the mental stack lol

rabble rabble

I guess alot of the times though you'll naturally env at 1s if you're refreshing ruptures or what not

[oak tangle]

it's actually so easy 🙂

[thorn fjord]

Patience is not easy

[umbral summit]

if stuff isn't lasting long, I just pick a target and do ST rotation + Crimson Tempest. you'll still put Rupture/Garotte on 3 targets (can be more if you refresh during dance) and blast everything with caustic spatter

[oak tangle]

just do this

[slate crown]

Just make your weakaura tracking envenom be desaturated

unless it's time to cast

so your brain things you don't have enough ersources to cast

[umbral summit]

does anyone know if there's a 'double dip' of some kind with caustic spatter and the 4-set? my spatter damage is absolutely horrific compared to other Rogues even with similar uptime

I'm sadly still playing 447 weapon and 2-set

also my mastery is trash

[thorn fjord]

ok ok i'll start doing it

[oak tangle]

are you comparing to 447 rogues? and secondly are you ramping your kb with spatter up properly

[thorn fjord]

Doesnt seem too bad

[versed gulch]

Sounds like a Kingsbane issue more than a spatter issue.

[final trench]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/talent-builds-pve-dps#mythicplus-build-hybrid

I have been running the hybrid build per whysprs guide.

[slim pebble]

Run arterial precision

You will notice a big difference

[oak tangle]

yeah, allows time to shitpost

[final trench]

Ok, I will give that a shot, does it play the same basically? Keep dots up, SND, envenom (obviously over simplifying it)

[grim jay]

Do you maybe have an augvoker and they dont?

[umbral summit]

it plays identically, I simmed it and the AP build does more single target AND more dungeonslice damage for me

[oak tangle]

if you're playing the AP build you will have lower spatter cause you lean into bleeds

[umbral summit]

my weapon is 447. my kingsbanes are good, always snapshotted with double shiv and thistle tea/vanish for the final pop

[thorn fjord]

And im guessing with Ashes it becomes a bit easier with the haste debuff and that you wont be able to push as many buttons

[slim pebble]

You shiv more in AoE for increased bleed damage

[oak tangle]

haste doesn't affect our gcd

[umbral summit]

comparing myself to another rogue I ran a key with. I did more kingsbane damage, same Spatter uptime, 50% less spatter damage

[final trench]

@slim pebble and @umbral summit ok ill give that a shot, thanks for the feedback.

[thorn fjord]

But energy regen

[final trench]

do we consistently send cds on vanish and SD in aoe?

[burnt venture]

That’s wild because for me Hybrid sims better. Maybe just a stat thing? Last week shock build was better but now with 4pc and more gears/stats Hybrid is simming better for me

[final trench]

I am always worried about having those for bosses. Highest key so far was a 20

[slim pebble]

I’m nelf so I have a lot of ways to regain stealth

[oak tangle]

were you spattering off a mob that wasn't in range?

[umbral summit]

no

[final trench]

Yea, I am a dumb dwarf. Crit bonus tricked me lol.

[flint tusk]

Oooo i can't wait for some juicy juicy wowhead comments

[slim pebble]

If I know a boss isn’t soon I’ll vanish or shadow dance near end of pack

And shiv and kill the entire group with bursting because I’m a degenerate

[jade dawn]

Have we got a weak aura to track scent of blood?

[umbral summit]

my gear is a bit messed up so it could be stat thing for sure

[final trench]

Ok thanks, I may change to a nightelf anyways. I do the same in outlaw, bf, ADR, and burst lmao

[upbeat shore]

It's coming

[umbral summit]

I did the first week as hybrid and struggled with damage, after zero upgrades this week I tried AP and it sims better, and works better in practise

[burnt venture]

Yeah mins is sus too. Still using 441 bomb dispenser and crap weapons. Lots of vers because I like to OL from time to time

[final trench]

is there a mastery checkpoint we should aim for?

[flint tusk]

no

never aim for any stats

just sim

[oak tangle]

i aim for agility

[thorn fjord]

cute is what we aim for

[flint tusk]

well we're all fucked then.

[upbeat shore]

Getting nerfed is the true goal

[final trench]

Lol, I have been simming, I just was wondering if there was a checkpoint as there are in some other classes.

[flint tusk]

there isn't any checkpoints that's why it's a case of always simming as all stats are fairly close in value with only verse being the one dragging behind. but even that in some cases is good

[grim jay]

Tldr 4set does spatter iirc and augvoker improves caustic by a mile if you get buffed by one

[umbral summit]

aha! that makes more sense

my mastery is hideously low so my envenoms/kingsbanes don't hit so hard

take away the ~10% dmg from 4-set and that explains things

[grand trail]

That wowhead DPS weekly report is kinda story teller 😄

[flint tusk]

i mean sorta

[grim jay]

The post below about the performance of the top specs is a story teller

Maybe some people finally understand the whys

Well written by Whispyr as always

[slate crown]

why would I read posts

[flint tusk]

yeh Whispyr done a good job on that write up

[slate crown]

I just see the picture

[oak tangle]

well written, but i always fear the impartialness leads to people not understanding

[flint tusk]

people will still not read it just like the guides

[slate crown]

Or any descriptions or help texts anywhere

[gusty mirage]

TRUE

[rose wyvern]

anyone got a link to all abilities that work wrong with aug wlogs ? that stay on normal dps and arent contributed to aug

[oak tangle]

it literally in the article

[grim jay]

Kilrathal just posted it above

[rose wyvern]

am looking at other classes

[grim jay]

Average wow gamer

[slate crown]

No

Average software user

[oak tangle]

they're in that article

[thorn fjord]

Gonna practice the 1s refresh on lfr

Let’s see how bad I do

[opal frost]

When’s the nerfs coming

[thorn fjord]

Boss is out for the day so I know what im doing

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-stiller-hand-gesture-shh-hush-gif-15857614

[oak tangle]

IF they are coming the 5th

[obsidian walrus]

They are gonna blindside you....

[opal frost]

Haha yeah it will be sad 😦

[thorn fjord]

Nice UH isn’t doing too bad

[robust scaffold]

LMFAO

[gusty mirage]

Don’t let them hear you

They’re apparently ww/aff lock bad if you ask them

[oak tangle]

this is why i hate graphs

[robust scaffold]

so the vault actually opens at 8am, regardless of when the servers come back up right?

[gusty mirage]

Fucking babies

[heavy roost]

how come sin sims lower than the actual results?

[light jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-lick-fast-lick-cute-cat-cats-gif-27624519

[surreal spear]

Thought it was 6 am

[gusty mirage]

They were god tier for half the expac and now it’s suddenly unplayable

[oak tangle]

we dont sim with pi and evoker buffs

[thorn fjord]

Isn’t their tier kinda lame?

[gusty mirage]

Good

Fuck them

[thorn fjord]

Haha

[slate crown]

Yes. Well, in 30 minutes vault (and weekly reset) converts over. If realms go back up before then, you're still in the last week's reset

[thorn fjord]

Good luck on your box today bro @gusty mirage

[gusty mirage]

Are you free from tindral prison yet

[slim hamlet]

aintnoway

All of blade flurry

[light jacinth]

No

[slim hamlet]

doesn't work with aug

[peak bobcat]

All the fotm rerollers in my guild won’t play DH or rogue and they’re angry at blizzard because they can’t believe their specs are bad

[raw raft]

Honestly that graph looks a lot better if they just fix the bug where sanguine blades and caustic spatter isn’t getting attributed to the augs correctly

[gusty mirage]

[light jacinth]

Maybe Thursday..

[surreal spear]

Isnt it 5 AM ? Or are you guys talking about US 😮

[slim hamlet]

That + when they delete PI

[peak bobcat]

I don’t feel bad for anyone after sarkareth

[robust scaffold]

thank you !

[thorn fjord]

Freedom reset

[gusty mirage]

Link them rogue’s performance in 9.0, 9.2, and 10.0

[slate crown]

Talking about US reset.

That's why I said "In 30 minutes" and not a specific time

[agile fossil]

the second we get nerfed , udk get all the pi / aug buffs , and the big bar on the graph will be red , then it will go back to warlocks once another round of tunning comes

[jade abyss]

Stop it !

[light jacinth]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/934595926067130441/1151883870606733362/HEYO.gif

[thorn fjord]

Lock prob get PI

[gusty mirage]

Stop yelling at nibren

[slim hamlet]

wat

Lock PI is dogshit

[peak bobcat]

Remember when we were good for heroic week?

[robust scaffold]

I was just referring to the time that Blizzard says the servers reset in PST on their website and in the client

[thorn fjord]

Nah nah let me cook

[slim hamlet]

Sure buff warlock by 100% and they get PI

[jade abyss]

I said stop xD

[gusty mirage]

Remember when they broke DM and exsang with zero changes to spell data in 10.0.5?

So we all inted for 6 months cause no one noticed

[light jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-orange-stewly-gif-14193106288143001787

[slim hamlet]

If I played I would have noticed 🙂

[plain onyx]

is there really a big dps difference between Hybrid build and Arterial for those who tested it ? i did but can't figure it out.. new to the spec and i want to move on with the ideal one please.

[gusty mirage]

We get it you think you’re a god gamer

[peak bobcat]

I love it

[light jacinth]

No

[slim hamlet]

No I am not an actual god, I am just godlike

[thorn fjord]

I love you

[oak tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-bat-upside-down-gif-14148208

[peak bobcat]

I remember times when assassination is arguably the worst spec in the game unplayable in keys and bad in raid

[thorn fjord]

But we still played that shit

[slim hamlet]

last 2 start of seasons?

[peak bobcat]

And now that I can actually do AOE damage people are like DELETE THAT CLASS

[thorn fjord]

💪

[gusty mirage]

Yeah it’s suddenly really good and it’s somehow oppressive

[jaunty warren]

Looking for confirmation. It appears recuperation is broken? It looks like it runs for the first slice and dice then stops regardless of cut to the chase ?

[gusty mirage]

But no one said shit about demo lock or uhdk, wild

[robust scaffold]

@slim hamlet can i see ur logs

[peak bobcat]

Unholy DK doubling my damage on sark

[agile fossil]

so like , a couple weeks ago ?

[slim hamlet]

It is bugged somehow, blizz knows about it

[oak tangle]

it's because no one likes us

[slim hamlet]

Why

[peak bobcat]

Everyone that doesn’t play rogue seems to forget

[robust scaffold]

i wanna know if im doing it right

[slim hamlet]

And u think I am the one to ask

[thorn fjord]

Arent you God like?

[slim hamlet]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/67705258 but sure

[robust scaffold]

yes

[gusty mirage]

Demo locks with call to suffering doing 600k dps sustained for like 2 minutes straight coming up from sark minigame

[agile fossil]

rogue is one of the least played class i think so this make sense

[slim hamlet]

Yes that is my front

[gusty mirage]

“Oh it’s just PI and haste”

[slim hamlet]

Not my real life

[thorn fjord]

Fair

[robust scaffold]

this is a video game

this isn't real life

now let me see your logs

[slim hamlet]

I hope it is real life

It is the only life I got

I linked it

[thorn fjord]

I beat him on Mythic Gnarlroot he's washed

[robust scaffold]

LMAO

[slim hamlet]

It is true

[robust scaffold]

his character sexy af tho

[slim hamlet]

I inted myself on both gnarlroot and igira

gg

[jaunty warren]

Ok Ty I will find another place for that point for now

[flint tusk]

@slim hamlet i used to like you man.

[robust scaffold]

and you have a Myth Nick of Time

[flint tusk]

myth track dagger

[slim hamlet]

You know

[finite echo]

i learned the other night if you shadowstep right after intermission it puts you in the bad puddle and you insta die

[robust scaffold]

Blizzard blesses the god like I suppose

[slim hamlet]

Some people are simply just better at the game @flint tusk

[robust scaffold]

[slim hamlet]

you need to let it go

[surreal spear]

Anyone know why this pops up still even after doing said action and waiting 3-4 days?

[flint tusk]

looks at dagger #pauses looks at parses
i see no skill here

[robust scaffold]

@slim hamlet can I see your UI

[slim hamlet]

idk if I got a raid ui screenshot

I don't

[oak tangle]

someone express as a percent, my likelyhood of a myth nick this week

[robust scaffold]

u dont have a video saved using GeForce Experience or something that you can screenshot a freeze frame from?

[flint tusk]

-1

[thorn fjord]

@oak tangle Just channel all your Zac energy

and it'll be there

[slim hamlet]

about 1 in 40ish

[thorn fjord]

I really want a trinket today

[slim hamlet]

2.5%

[oak tangle]

1 in 40 for each 3 slot? or is the 1/40 for all 3

[slim hamlet]

Ehmmmm

[balmy fog]

Is there a legendary gear item like back in 2021 shadowlands

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-and-dumber-lloyd-theres-a-chance-jim-carrey-gif-11098164

[slim hamlet]

Yes

I got it

Also got branch after 29 runs

So I am ready to parse LFR finally

[prisma cypress]

is branch worth the effort

[thorn fjord]

Hell yeah

[balmy fog]

What’s branch

[strange python]

Is hekili fully busted for sin right now?

[slim hamlet]

Branch is so easy

[thorn fjord]

yes

[languid moth]

Random question, if I macro dance and Kb, as long as dance is first in the macro I should still get subterfuge on the KB? Or do I need to hit one then the other??

[slim hamlet]

If u use a wa and simply don't overthink it

[oak tangle]

would a myth track dagger drag me from 90-95's to 95-99's?

[thorn fjord]

Maybe... You play better when confident

😛

[ashen topaz]

assassination is hard to play :C

[robust scaffold]

ngl seeing the orbs on the ground can be incredibly dangerous during certain mechanics if you tunnel. Gotta work it in muscle memory

[ashen topaz]

im clueless

[thorn fjord]

What color are the orbs?

[slate crown]

pale blue

[robust scaffold]

a baby blue

[thorn fjord]

Gross man

I'm going to have the hardest time seeing that shit

[finite echo]

once you learn to do orbs without looking at them, it feels natural

[thorn fjord]

I hope theyre big

[slate crown]

nope

[robust scaffold]

they're rather tiny

[finite echo]

tbh i'd even recommend doing orbs without looking at them and just learn it from the start that way

[strange python]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[finite echo]

press dm, walk forward, drift left, plant

[rancid trout]

Hi guys do you use shiv on cooldown with arterial precision?

[abstract jacinth]

Use one shiv on cd save the other for second half of KB

[slim hamlet]

Only thing I changed since this is the boss adds thingy being underneath the m+ timer

also btw not even close