assassination

[odd dew]

17+

[strange python]

nah man

[limber lion]

I only do 40+'s sorry

[strange python]

lol i'd probably be down with like 9-13 but i understand why you're only on 17

[odd dew]

dungeon aint hard

[strange python]

nah i know

i just dont feel like dealing with bursting and such anymore this week or pugging or try-harding while pugging, etc.

[odd dew]

yeah fair enough

[limber lion]

Bursting is a healer affix anyways

Not your problem

[subtle tundra]

so true king

[hidden inlet]

thoughts on dropping CT in m+? the multi target gain of CT looks extremely low

[subtle tundra]

rate my m+ build

[odd dew]

whenw ill it drop for me

[limber lion]

CT is the single best talent in AoE and it's not even close

You never ever drop CT in mythic+

[true flume]

U r trying to hard. Pretend it's a lover. You need to give it space.

[spice surge]

Didnt you see musclebrah pump yesterday with his no ct no scent build??!? /S

[limber lion]

I love forbidden tech, like the no snapshot KB build that people are doing

[oak tangle]

how do i stop getting wrist pain while playing now

[nocturne bough]

how does thiw rok without CT?

[subtle tundra]

you dont ct

cause you dont have it

[vagrant moon]

How high do I have to get alchemy where corrupting rage does less damage to me

[strange python]

I bet I could spend 2 hours cleaning out my vault...and still have shit in there from 15 years ago that i'll never use or touch

[subtle tundra]

its quite shrimple

[vagrant moon]

Noticed I was taking more dmg in keys

[limber lion]

By moving buttons to your other hand as well. I have majority of my buttons on my mouse nowadays

[nocturne bough]

some galakrond fall 25/26 logs by zerocool runs this build

[strange python]

honestly - you gotta redo your keybinds dude

Like you're gonna suck for a week but

[oak tangle]

even my mouse hand wrist is sore 😦 my gaming must be coming to an end

[strange python]

you gotta do it

Tell you this - the lest you have to hit shift and alt - the better.

[limber lion]

Zerocool is notorious for playing terrible feelcraft builds

[strange python]

AND get a PROPER size gaming mouse.

[oak tangle]

i don't use these, but i think if anything it's my ~ key

[limber lion]

Wouldn't trust the man to change my lightbulb

[subtle tundra]

its literally the council build

[strange python]

I switched to a logitech g203

and my right hand pain / wrist pain (my thumb basically up my wrist) went away

[cosmic rivet]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[limber lion]

I had major hand pain as well but I also work full time as a musician so kinda comes with the craft

But making sure to spam less and get a proper mouse helped a ton

[snow kindle]

Comfortable binds are hard to find

[tropic tundra]

Yeah especially for most melees

[strange python]

I should make some wowhead guide for wrist pain or something

[tropic tundra]

I was using wheelclick as a spender bind, and almost lost my right hand after playing fury

[strange python]

i swear, i've put so much thought, time, and experimentation into this over the years

[limber lion]

I have gone to osteopaths, chiropractors and fysiotherapists a bunch as well lol

[strange python]

Honestly too, sometimes, you gotta make the changes, and literally take a week off too

like that stuff has to heal a bit

[dusty phoenix]

can someone post a pumper m+ dmg breakdown

feel like im not doing something right

[tropic tundra]

We all know at that point we’re just supposed to leave azeroth for a while

[snow kindle]

Yeah outlaw was giving me hand pain had to play sin to cool off

[tropic tundra]

[dusty phoenix]

or is garrote supposed to be up there by a ton?

[limber lion]

Gar kb ct rup spatter sang

Somethibg like that

[tropic tundra]

Yes

[limber lion]

And yes

[strange python]

yeah garrote should probably be top

[limber lion]

Gar is king

[dusty phoenix]

ok

nvm then

[tropic tundra]

Stealth garrote is our main damage

[snow kindle]

I feel like I don’t need to spam my buttons as hard as I do but I’m too use to it

[dusty phoenix]

then I'm fine

ty

[limber lion]

You can get rid of it for sure

I used to be a big spammer

[strange python]

Oh that's a good point. Actually track/watch your global too. And understand your /spellqueuewindow - so you're hitting your spells once, instead of 8 times

[snow kindle]

I press the buttons like five times

[limber lion]

Probably from league days

[hidden inlet]

really? i only lost 0.6% on 5 target for dropping ct

[limber lion]

Having to spam right click 10000 times a second

[tropic tundra]

This is me

Also while wasd’ing

[limber lion]

Huh? In sims or

[snow kindle]

Yeah I play league osu wow

I just spam keys

[hidden inlet]

sims

[dusty phoenix]

personally Im not only spamming the ability binds like 20 times before the gcd starts rolling but I also additionally press movement keys while doing it

and it fucks my wrist

[limber lion]

And what did you take in place of it

[strange python]

I've tried f'in around with:

[hidden inlet]

but gained like 3% st

[strange python]

no dice

[tropic tundra]

A friend of mine also playing osu for decades

[limber lion]

Yeah

[strange python]

i mean free spatter sounds good

but it never maths out

[hidden inlet]

i have been using this one, dropping ct for evenom 2sec

[limber lion]

Yeah and with our class sitting at a fixed 1s gcd, you literally press buttons once or twice and you're good

[strange python]

no blindside, no care

[limber lion]

CT for TTK?

Idk how you're getting 3% extra st damage from TTK

[dusty phoenix]

idk i cant stop doing it

been doing so for like a decade

its too deeply wired

[limber lion]

I did too and don't do anymore

You can get rid of it

[strange python]

yeah it takes like a week

[limber lion]

When you're forced to

[strange python]

to retrain

[dusty phoenix]

na its fine I also play other classes and there its sometimes useful

[limber lion]

When you literally cannot game because of pain

[strange python]

get new keybinds if you have wrist pain - really THINK about the shit you're hitting OFTEN and the shit you're hitting infrequently.

[limber lion]

Gotta make changes

[dusty phoenix]

my wrist was hurting like hell on season release week because I played outlaw

xd

[limber lion]

Like 1 is a terrible bind for a generator, but everyone still uses it

[strange python]

I've even got my outlaw binds to the point where I can play it without pain

[limber lion]

Spamming 1 with pinky ain't it

[dusty phoenix]

I always gen on 2

[simple ore]

qerf gang

[limber lion]

But most people never have issues anyway

[strange python]

yeah if I was smart, i woulda made my WAD keys ESF years ago (but that i can't get used to)

[limber lion]

Yeah, I literally cannot play Outlaw

[oak tangle]

yeah my mut / ambush is on 2

[strange python]

yeah that's total left wrist pain dude

[limber lion]

My mut is on my mouse

[strange python]

mut is that closest mouse button for me

and envenom is the one right infront of (above?) it

[limber lion]

Mine is below

[dusty phoenix]

idk maybe I'm getting old but i cant get used to mouse binds

only thing i have on mouse are mounts

[limber lion]

But yeah all generators and Env on mouse

[simple ore]

I've yet to play a class that needs more than (shift/ctrl) qerf 1234 zxcv

[limber lion]

Everything else on keyboard

[strange python]

I have like Cheapshot is alt+mut button

I rarely hit it

SND is shift+1 -

rarely hit it ya know

[tropic tundra]

Wat

[oak tangle]

i have 6 binds on my mouse, and 11 on my left hand

no modifier keys

[strange python]

I've always been fine hitting shift though - it's the alt binds that get me

[snow kindle]

Anything 1234 and under feels good to press

[dusty phoenix]

i use shift and ctrl, alt is only for rare things like pot, shroud, buffs etc

ctrl modifier is mostly def/utility/cc

[tropic tundra]

I use shroud by opening spellbook

[dusty phoenix]

shift is dps cds and some spells

[strange python]

Also, a 10-key-less keyboard helped a lot. It keeps the keyboard more "centered" - cause i use my mouse directly to the right of it. Just keeps my whole arms, shoulders, and wrists in a better position.

Although I do miss the 10-key

[neat plank]

do you guys run a different spec in Fall instead of zoldyck? dps is kinda bad on Iridikron

[limber lion]

Yeh I use TKL as well

[dusty phoenix]

idk i need my numpad

[limber lion]

Just run the non AP one

[dusty phoenix]

cant type numbers without it

[strange python]

And my keyboard has to be like exactly 1.5inches from the edge of the desk, etc. right where my left palm wrests.

[tropic tundra]

Wat

[neat plank]

so basically the fort version from last week

[strange python]

You can GET a 10-key that isn't attached if you need it for some stuff though

[dusty phoenix]

I mean i dont have issues, i like my fullsized kb

[strange python]

like work or entering codes / alt-codes, etc

[limber lion]

Well there's no fort or tyrannical builds. Every build is more or less viable depending on the dungeons

[grim jay]

basically the one that doesnt require execute to not lose the worth of 2points

[limber lion]

You can take the DTB build and take VR instead for slightly better st feel

[grim jay]

because iridikron = no execute

[limber lion]

Or path down to blindside but not all the way down to ap

[strange python]

Yeah Venom Rush over Flying daggers even - in the arterial build doesn't seem like a terrible thing to swap

[turbid scaffold]

Can I check we cast finisher at 4 CP or more or Max CP -1?

[limber lion]

4+

[grim jay]

its not, its imo the better build and its also included in the builds of whispyr

[strange python]

VR is?

[grim jay]

yes

he has both

builds

[turbid scaffold]

ok so my max CP is 6 so always at 5 or above ya?

[strange python]

hrmm

[dusty phoenix]

4+

[turbid scaffold]

ok

[dusty phoenix]

because u can overcap if u gen on 4 with a crit

[limber lion]

Whispyr's doesn't take VR

[strange python]

yeah i'm not seeing any of whispyr's with it

If i was gonna change anything about arterial, it'd be that one point though - into VR. But probably not on fort weeks, i dunno.

[subtle tundra]

now that is a breakdown!

[grim jay]

he literally has both

on bloodmallet

[turbid scaffold]

wait.. So if my CP now is 4, do I cast the finisher or cast mutilate?

[limber lion]

...

[dusty phoenix]

bro

we already told u 3 times

[limber lion]

Whispyr's builds are on wowhead

[strange python]

These no crimson tempest people don't give up

[grim jay]

you can like

read the pins

[limber lion]

Yes you can too

[grim jay]

he submitted bloodmallet profiles

[limber lion]

He did

[grim jay]

and they have the vr version

[limber lion]

Yes

Bloodmallet does

But the guides that suggests builds

Does not

[grim jay]

I never talked about any guides

[limber lion]

Bloodmallet has all sorts of shit for you to compare

[strange python]

I mean you said "whispyr's builds"

that's assumed to just mean his builds he puts in his guides for people to follow

[grim jay]

yeah because he submitted those specific setups

wdym

[strange python]

not some random thing buried in a bloodmallet profile lol

[grim jay]

its not random

if he submitted

them

wtf

[strange python]

ok lol

[grim jay]

" I've also included the m+ hybrid build, as well as the arterial build with tiny toxic/flying daggers versus arterial with blindside/venom rush as a comparison. "

[strange python]

yeah he used it as a comparison

to make educated recomendations for the builds for people to play - that he publishes in his guides.

[limber lion]

Those are not the builds he recommends

[strange python]

I'm sure it's a fine point to swap - it's just not in his builds

[limber lion]

Just a bunch of builds for comparison sake

[grim jay]

doesnt change the fact its his version of the "possible" builds

but alrighty

not gonna argue about that any further

[limber lion]

The point of bloodmallet is to compare all possible variations

[spice surge]

post builds to show that theyre not good
see theyre being posted about, that means theyre good

Literally cant win

[limber lion]

Good and bad ones

[strange python]

Imagine if every build whispyr ever simmed was "whispyr's builds"

[dusty phoenix]

my builds are best because they sim highest

(i only sim my builds)

[strange python]

I like to just take known good builds, and randomly change some points here and there, sim em, and find the least sucky thing to change - that just makes it suck a little bit more. Then I can say i'm playing my own build.

[kind forge]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[dusty phoenix]

same i just take blackjack instead of tricks and call it my own

[limber lion]

Anyways

[strange python]

I do the same but i 100% take tricks everywhere i go

[grim jay]

simming a build and including it for people to see are different things, especially if the message below literally says they all perform similar and you should choose on what you need. but yeah, its a good/bad comparison if they all perform similar

now that eleem has tuned in any discussion isnt useful anyways

[dusty phoenix]

idk tricks on outlaw yes but sin? not rly sold on it

[grim jay]

[strange python]

I just like having tricks

makes me feel fucking useful or something

[dusty phoenix]

but u can feel more useful if u dr 30% for 6 sec

[strange python]

ugh i know

[grim jay]

I had the same thing but I grew to like the aoe blind with dr

especially on big pulls

[strange python]

I dunno how often i'm blinding or sapping shit though honestly

[grim jay]

sapping rarely ig

[limber lion]

AoE blind is insane

[dusty phoenix]

its a 1 min cd literally do it every other pull especially to interrupt shit

[strange python]

yeah it is

[dusty phoenix]

and the dr is a nice bonus

[limber lion]

Can literally save a situatiom

[oak tangle]

im confused who isn't taking aoe blind

[strange python]

i mean some shit is immune to it though

it's in my sub build

[dusty phoenix]

its not about aoe blind its about blackjack over tricks

[strange python]

so i mean i've messed with it

[grim jay]

yeah, especially if many things are there to interrupt, like before second boss in fall

with the enervates

[strange python]

yeah like those choking vines too in EB

[oak tangle]

ahh, i take tricks, cause my tank is a bitch and pulls 3 mobs

so i "help" him

[dusty phoenix]

fair

XD

[strange python]

I guess i just got used to having tricks over the years i dunno

it's the sole reason i even have the clique addon lol

[oak tangle]

if you black jacked an entire pack with an ap shiv, bigge damage reduction

[dusty phoenix]

u mean wire?

[oak tangle]

nah

[dusty phoenix]

ahh

[oak tangle]

atrophic / numbing

[dusty phoenix]

i thought u meant arterial precision

ye

[oak tangle]

i did mean arterial

[dusty phoenix]

dm me im a bit slow

[shy axle]

does envenom chain with 4p mean you use env when envenom reaches its pandemic window of 2 seconds until you do not have any energy left or does it mean you just go from full energy down to low blasting env no matter the envbuff pandemic as long as it is up because you just want the dmg and 4p explosion?

[proper forum]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[mighty lake]

Any1 have a WA to remind u to 2nd shiv asap when up during kingsbane and to use thistle tea last 6 seconds on our cd rotation? Really annoying weird mechanic that is very time sensitive

[slim hedge]

I use blind for DR or just AoE stop. Pretty strong.

[solid skiff]

I'm just using LE's kingsbane timeline. Think it's in the WA command?

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[obtuse ruin]

anyone got the macro to use ambush over mutilate in Sdance?

[cunning basin]

Wut

Do you not just have it on your stealth bar O.O

[oak tangle]

i don't have the macro for you, but at the same time i have one from sub you can modify

#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2] Shadowstrike
/cast [stance:1] shadowstrike
/cast [stance:0] Backstab; Gloomblade

[mighty lake]

If I snapshot a improve garrote, then at 5 seconds left apply a new non-improved garrote, does the new garrote do 5 seconds of improved dmg or is it basically a missplay to reapply garrote during pandemic?

And the right play is to let the improved to simply run its course?

[solid void]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[strange python]

If you cast regular at 5 sec left, it overwrites it...but it does pandemic (or last longer).
Correct. The right play is to let the improved expire.

[strange python]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[strange python]

jeeeeezus

I see you took my advice

[oak tangle]

lol

[dark token]

This doesn't seem accurate tbh

[cunning basin]

I love shit posting in RH while I pool

Favorite part of playing sin tbh

Lotta free time for memeing

[subtle tundra]

Not even close to how good it was back in sl

[crimson talon]

should I keep energy above 50% at all times or does it snapshot rupture, etc

?

[subtle tundra]

Full on movie mode during mythic prog

[subtle tundra]

You ignore it

[cunning basin]

yo why tf i just look at details and saw my sanguine blades got parried 3 times??

excuse me?!

[solid skiff]

I hate parry being a mechanic so much

[gusty mirage]

Amen

[cunning basin]

i do too but i am giga confused

[gusty mirage]

If they wanna keep parry, bring back spell resist ty

[crimson talon]

what do you mean ignore it?

[cunning basin]

as to how iridikron parried sanguine blades

[cunning basin]

you just don't play around sanguine blades

you do your rotation normally and it gives you free damage sometimes

[solid skiff]

It's especially jarring coming from FF14 where it's not a thing and I can spin my character any direction and still hit. Takes some definite getting used to swapping back and forth xD

[gusty mirage]

Seems kind of horseshit we need to stand behind bosses when casters don’t have a positional requirement

[mellow copper]

If i snapshot rupture with nightstalker, do i let it completely fall of like garrote or refresh in pandemic ?

[solid skiff]

Also when there are bosses that just force you to be in front

[cunning basin]

or on a boss where you basically are in front of it 80% of the fight you just... get parried sometimes because fuck you

[gusty mirage]

Let it fall off fully before refreshing

[dusty phoenix]

man fuck the parry chance

why does it exist

why cant casters just miss anymore

and we get parried

[subtle tundra]

Most raid encounters like that don't parry

[spice surge]

Ye if its the entire encounter (like volcoross)

[cunning basin]

and nymue

[gusty mirage]

Yeah usually for bosses like they they remove parry completely. But for some reason that’s not consistent either

[spice surge]

But then you have stuff like neltharion where you kinda need to stand infront of him a lot

But he can still parry

[cunning basin]

PRECISELY

so fun

great mechanic 10/10

(im dead inside help me)

[gusty mirage]

I feel so immersed when I get parried

[solid skiff]

Yeah, moreso it's the inconsistency there

[gusty mirage]

Everyone’s a master fucking swordsman apparently

[solid skiff]

It's just a frustrating and bad mechanic

[cunning basin]

ill feel real immersed when my kb gets parried

[spice surge]

Especially when my kingsbane get parried. My first reaction is definitely immersion

[cunning basin]

in a tub

with a- nvm

[gusty mirage]

Well it’s the bane of a king, and you are a king my friend

[cunning basin]

holy shit

[spice surge]

[cunning basin]

[thorny pond]

Oxi is a smooth mfer

[gusty mirage]

I’m just an eleem simp

[cunning basin]

anyone else experiencing getting declined from pugs doing 17-19s when you're like almost 2800 or is it just me?

[thorny pond]

Nah fam. Everywhere you go…: 💦

[gusty mirage]

See now you’re getting to the score where people are scared you’ll leave after one wipe

[cunning basin]

thats fair but also im a rogue signing up for fall, i wouldn't leave if we were 10 minutes over LMAO

i got all this shit timed idc bout io

[thorny pond]

Gotta pump the brakes or push 22s

[gusty mirage]

You’ll start to get whispers after rough keys thanking you for staying

It’s wild

[cunning basin]

im just out here tryna get my 1% damage 🥲

[gusty mirage]

Makes you wonder how many assholes play this game lmao

[thorny pond]

Guildies do that lmao

[gusty mirage]

People don’t understand that if I’m pugging keys I literally don’t have anything else to do

I ain’t leaving your key

My other option is farming genesis motes in zereth mortis

[cunning basin]

i wish you could like

make a perma status when you sign up for keys

bc that is such a mood lmao

[gusty mirage]

People who rage leave keys just need to chill

Tbh

[cunning basin]

if im pugging its like.. im not doing this to be competitive, im just bored and wanna hit things

[gusty mirage]

It’s a fucking video game man

[thorny pond]

I wish you could sign up and have a no leaver status that if you leave before completion, you get key banned until reset

[tropic tundra]

You can leave a key?

[cunning basin]

exactly lmao

[tropic tundra]

Wait what

[gusty mirage]

Yeah ask the tanks who pull 17s like MDIs and then alt f4 after they die lmao

They’ll show you the way

[cunning basin]

christ

[gray crest]

i feel like that can be exploited, like some people troll the shit out of a no leaver key to force other people to leave and get key banned

[tropic tundra]

I didnt know that cause nobody attempt that except before everyone agreed

[cunning basin]

had that happen too many times

[thorny pond]

All trash before first boss and first boss. Wipes

I’ll flame them and laugh when it’s 4 melee and a MW

[cunning basin]

everything can be exploited, there's no perfect system sadly. just ways to hopefully help stop some things

[gusty mirage]

I did a 20 fall the other day with Nef healing @gray crest we wiped 3 times on 2nd boss and still +2’d the key

lmao

[gray crest]

lmao

[thorny pond]

It’s such a free key compared to rise

[gusty mirage]

On his 451 disc priest with no tier and no trinkets

[gray crest]

i must confess a terrible sin oxi, something never done by the vatican... I played sub yesterday in some keys

[cunning basin]

i literally did throne 21 and +2'd it with 27 deaths

[gusty mirage]

Why is that a sin

Sub is fun man

[cunning basin]

people leaving keys is WILD to me when shit like that happens

[gusty mirage]

Dust just sucks

[cunning basin]

^^^^^^

[spice surge]

Its literally just not a sin

[gray crest]

it is. I have no idea what im doing but it was fun

[spice surge]

Not a sin rogue

[cunning basin]

[gusty mirage]

I was actually so hype to play sub this tier before I realized I’d be forced to play shadowdust

[cunning basin]

yeah

im like

still mildly hype to play it for smoldy

[gusty mirage]

I like sub a lot

[strange python]

I still don't get why people hate shadowdust so much

[cunning basin]

and possibly fyrakk depending on what it looks like when we get there

[gusty mirage]

Idk why people think I hate it

[oak tangle]

what's the issue? I checked with whispyr he said it was fine

[cunning basin]

i just love rogue man

shit is goated

best class in the game tbh

[gusty mirage]

True

[cunning basin]

why 1/3 of my alts are rogues

[strange python]

Don't you see the whispyr-certified check mark

that's official

[gusty mirage]

Cutest community figures in the game too like eleem, solo, stealthi, and Cev

[spice surge]

[cunning basin]

for me its like... idk. Shadowdust just FEELS wrong to me

i cant explain it but its like

its just incorrect

[strange python]

hrmm

[gusty mirage]

I just hate CDR mechanics because I’m old and cranky

[dark token]

Ye

[gusty mirage]

Now get off my lawn you damn kids

[dark token]

It's awk

[cunning basin]

and bc of that i dont like it and now i have my own meme

[subtle tundra]

What about sl tier set

Vendetta cd

[strange python]

I think you just guessed my entire wifi password

[gusty mirage]

REEEEEEEEEEEE

Forced exsang and duskwalkers was my absolute misery

[gray crest]

I was about to download that dust meme but I realized I already saved it lmao

[cunning basin]

LMAO

out here makin CONTENT baby

[gusty mirage]

Outlaw was literally unplayable until fated, sub was rogue roulette and my other option was duskwalkers and forced exsang

9.2 was dark times

[ember wharf]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[strange python]

Sub just felt like punished so severely back then for mechanics or losing uptime

And flag was like a double punish

cause i think your flag sucked, and then you lost the CDR or something

[gusty mirage]

@gray crest remembers my depression during sepulcher

I’ll never forget xymox prog, get sent to an island playing sub, tier set procs 6 times in a row and everything dies, next time 0 procs and I’m doing tank damage

[glad vapor]

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[gray crest]

"just do it again" -jet

[cunning basin]

i got to sit on boss as a fury warrior

[strange python]

how long is this zalarek cavern campaign questline

tryina knock out pathfinder, it's the last thing i have

[gusty mirage]

You missed the jet banger on KT “my vendetta isn’t up yet”
“Figure it out”
Oh okay

[cunning basin]

i told my rl like i can just run bladestorm and erase the existence of any platform

but no

[gusty mirage]

Couple hours at most

[strange python]

jeeezus

[thorny pond]

Were you on piping his corpse duty?

[strange python]

f'in ele was bangin on sylvanas, i remember that

[gusty mirage]

I was dodging mortar shells in the beaches of Normandy while blinded by two spears of bastion

[real stirrup]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842817103354658817/1154475731108249700/image.png

[gusty mirage]

Couldn’t see shit

[thorny pond]

Damn warriors man

[gusty mirage]

One of those warriors had a banger for anduin prog

[gray crest]

It took me a moment to remember who the other warrior was lol

holy shit that was funny

[thorny pond]

I’ll bang you

[gusty mirage]

We brought him in, our RL: “do you have any questions before you leap in and kill everyone?”

“No”

First pull, he leaps into melee and kills us all

[gray crest]

Youre forgetting the numerous times that he would pop all his cds and bladestorm the adds and bring everyone up early

[thorny pond]

Anduin made me question everything

[gusty mirage]

There is not a fate worse than two quebecois dps warriors

[thorny pond]

I see you also raided with Archi

[gusty mirage]

That was after he blew us all up with blasphemy

[oak tangle]

@strange python yo unironically I sat back in my chair and raised my chair's armrests to table height and i was vibing in the key i jsut did

10/10 posture check

[wary cedar]

hello guys I have a little question I'm new on wow and trying to pvp but I don't have gear so what talent should I use and if you have any suggestion pls tell me what should I do (sorry for bed england xd)

[strange python]

[thorny pond]

#pvp

[gusty mirage]

@hollow river help

Mfer too busy grinding RuneScape

[timber meadow]

is it even worth taking splatter for the spears on igara? i lose like 1 mil st and am only doin like 1.7 mil to the spears

[cunning basin]

welp thats my sign to go to bed instead of try to do a dawn

[timber meadow]

like overall sure its technically a gain but iono

[cunning basin]

got into one where there were 2 warriors and one died on first leap, other smashing in at 45k dps

heals just left

lmao

[gusty mirage]

On heroic I wouldn’t bother, but on mythic it’s worth the slight loss to boss damage cause sometimes those spears live a long ass time otherwise

[cunning basin]

christ

[cunning basin]

embrace the pad

[timber meadow]

perfect, thats what i was thinkin

jumpin into mythic today but heroic clear first

[gusty mirage]

Yeah I found spatter outside of kb windows to be kind of whatever on heroic

Most of the time the DHs are too busy doing havoc things deleting everything off the face of the earth

[timber meadow]

on loradar on pull with full cooldowns and lust tho

that shit actually going dumb

[cunning basin]

tindral bro

holy

[timber meadow]

@gusty mirage is the angel @cunning basin is the devil

[cunning basin]

just do one bad thing, its not that big of a deal, after all, why shouldn't you pad?

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-darkside-star-wars-evil-innerme-gif-13048146

[timber meadow]

LOL

somethin somethin i wanna be the player i wanna see in the world

[gusty mirage]

Tindral is a special kind of lag

When your first spatter hits

[timber meadow]

bro

[gusty mirage]

And your screen locks up for a second

[timber meadow]

its unreal

[cunning basin]

holy fuck dude

[timber meadow]

literally locks up

[cunning basin]

its insane

[timber meadow]

i just press my shit since its opener and scripted

like i just send it

[gusty mirage]

Shit boss

[timber meadow]

and hope its processing

[oak tangle]

any other gamers holding / not holding dm on things like ozumat so it's up in execute on the big ass tentacle

[cunning basin]

i was like 3rd on root damage vs 10 people in m+ spec and top boss damage by 12m on our first heroic tindral kill

shit was comical

me to my raidlead: "i told you so"
she didn't believe that any class would ever beat unholy dk in st

[strange python]

Isn't it just a free win once he spawns?

I try to get through that first phase as quick as possible, personally

[cunning basin]

Same

But when DM comes up for ozumat it feels amazing, shit skews your overall SO hard lmao

[strange python]

yeah

[timber meadow]

on that note earlier @gusty mirage do you run ic on council? were spread and i feel like i got basically zero value from that shit cept on pull

was thinkin just runnin st build until/if we ever group the bosses more

[oak tangle]

all natty i swear

[strange python]

I stopped caring on council

I just hit whatever is infront of me

[cunning basin]

Oh yeah me too lmao

[cunning basin]

This is the way tbh

[gusty mirage]

Yea, I can send you the build I yoinked from stealthi

[cunning basin]

Throw on spatter if you're gonna have em decently stacked but fuck man idk. Feels like I always see other raids doing it have 2 bosses stacked constantly

But mine it's like, it just doesn't happen

[oak tangle]

does anyone have a raid timing compilation doc or something about fight timings

[gusty mirage]

@timber meadow BMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEJJhkEEAAAAAASJJSJJAAAAAAgmkESgkkWaREREJJJRSTJSAA

For opener wait until deer is about to jump, garrote pip, then step gar -> rupture deer and it should cleave to bear boy

And after that pray your group doesn’t grief the boss and kill it and watch 3 agi polearms drop

[steel stump]

Damn the SIM is pumping the evenoms without having to pool and loosing uptime I don’t yet understand how

Im always 10-15 casts behind on 5 min

[strange python]

https://lorrgs.io/

click spec on right, select difficulty

[cunning basin]

I mean... 10-15 casts behind is like.. you're doing mechanics lol

[steel stump]

On a dummy i mean haha

[cunning basin]

Oh

[static glacier]

On a dummy you’re missing windfury and lust

[steel stump]

I sim without any raid buffs to compare

[strange python]

You can set sim to dummy

[static glacier]

Both of those contribute to total envenoms

If you’re behind no raidbuffs are you pooling properly

Envenom uptime correlates weakly with energy income

[steel stump]

Thing im confused about is that if I pool to be > 50% energy and have good uptime im really far behind on evenom casts

[cunning basin]

You don't worry about staying above 50 unless you don't have 4p

[strange python]

!poolijng

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[static glacier]

Think about enveloping as loot as possible

Late

[deep knoll]

what are good crafts ?

or better to be asked what are the 2 items u guys crafted

[cunning basin]

Toxic thorn boots and wrists with toxified armor patch

[steel stump]

Oh I see

[cunning basin]

👍

[timber meadow]

perfect thx

[steel stump]

But the more I wait the less casts I do right ?

Confuses the shit out of me sry guys 😂

[cunning basin]

I mean yeah kinda, but also during CDs you're dumping energy and not pooling at all

The sim afaik uses the same pooling logic

[steel stump]

Im gonna log it see if i can spot a bad pattern on my side

[grand trail]

Do you actually send into deer? Because urcos charge away in the last 5 sec of DM or so

[cunning basin]

Assassination is a relatively low APM spec, there's a good bit of downtime where you're literally just sitting there waiting for energy

So don't feel like you're not spamming enough. If you follow the guides on pooling and rotation properly you're doing it right

[steel stump]

Ok thanks

[gusty mirage]

Essentially it’s the only target you’ll get consistent uptime on

Plus bear gets absolutely ass blasted

[steel stump]

Also my kingbane crit like crazy with hourglass trinket and crit being my highest stat 😂

[oak tangle]

no, because of how combo points and energy work, if you dont cap on energy and dont generate when at full cp, you will not lose casts

[steel stump]

Makes sense

Ty

[oak tangle]

the art of pooling kind of squishes your apm inside your cooldowns, and stretches it between them

[grand trail]

Yeah but if you send bear you get cleave on all 3

I did send on bear on kill but won't anymore as it's just sadge

[gusty mirage]

Unless you hold until after the charge full sending and getting full value on bear just isn’t possible

[lofty junco]

So just maining utilitarian for m+ shouldn't be a problem with how good it performs now?

[oak tangle]

i am going to emulate whispyr:

do what ever, it doesn't matter

[cunning basin]

Play the one you like, it doesn't matter

[strange python]

Yeah, just don't like the wrong one and play that one

[cunning basin]

I believe in arterial superiority because blindside is BIS

[cunning basin]

The only wrong one is sub

You're under arrest

[strange python]

sub is my #2 tool for inting keys

[manic matrix]

How do you play Witherbark's Branch optimally ?

[strange python]

outlaw is my #1

[cunning basin]

Same

[cunning basin]

1/1/7

[strange python]

nah sub is good

[cunning basin]

Grab an orb, grab second orb, kite for ~7 seconds and grab third

[manic matrix]

why 7sec?

[strange python]

so that you are at 3 stacks for the last ticks of kingsbane

[cunning basin]

It's a 10 second buff and you want the full 3stack for the end of kb

[manic matrix]

so you pick them up as you deathmark?

[strange python]

you cast it when you deathmark

[cunning basin]

And pick up as you do your rotation

[strange python]

as long as that last ball hits you around your 2nd shiv, you're fine

[manic matrix]

oke

[manic matrix]

I'll have less burst than ashes of the embersoul but more sustained dmg right?

[royal lantern]

@gusty mirage 54 RUNS

ITS OVER

THE FIRST DAGGER

no upgrade materials for the week left

[earnest marsh]

yo guys do you have any cool kingsbane macro?

[oak tangle]

any button with kingsbane attached to it is cool

[patent quartz]

!mcro

[finite mountain]

hi guys, after 40 runs i finally dropped Witherbark's Branch... now the question, how to use... do you use it while ramping with dots or at the end when all dots are on the targets ?

[solid skiff]

scroll up 10-15 messages

[cunning basin]

Congrats you're out of jail!!

[oak tangle]

just moved to the low security wing

[finite mountain]

yea the playstyle with 7 seconds daleay for the 3rd orb is fine, but i mean when to use it, at burst after deathmark/kingsbane is done ?

[cunning basin]

On deathmark

Macro that and pot into deathmark

GGEZ

[finite mountain]

aight so i can macro it with deathmark ggs

[cunning basin]

[finite mountain]

❤️

you got a macro for that ?

i am to dumb atm -.-

[oak tangle]

#showtooltip
/cast deathmark
/use 13
/use elemental Potion of power

[finite mountain]

^so i have to press 3 times ?

[oak tangle]

no

[fossil girder]

13 is top trinket slot Fyi. (Where on use should go)

[finite mountain]

worked, thanks too ya all ❤️

does this macro work when potion is not ready?

[placid cobalt]

Hi guys, was simming the Pip trinket but for me it shows a significant downgrade compared to the Accelerating Sandglass, not sure why. Even at 489 IL it sims like 900 dps less than a 483 glass, was curiouss since mallet sims show pip pretty high up i believe

[subtle tundra]

yes

[sick eagle]

Playing arterial precision be like: Oh there are 5 mobs below 35%? Oh they all have my bleeds? shivs
Pepega DPS: where did the mobs go?
Healer: Rages from bursting

[cunning basin]

We love popping a full pack with shiv

[gusty mirage]

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/bts-freedom-im-free-running-gif-13472805

[gusty mirage]

My boy’s finally free :’)

[royal lantern]

i can enter other dungeons

or play other stuff

without feeling bad

[sick eagle]

Assass feels pretty good in dungs though, not just rotation but even build variety, you can run Sudden with DTB, Arterial with Sudden and Arterial DTB and all seem to be performing very nice

[storm belfry]

i will frame this. beautiful

[devout prism]

54 x 20-30 min, was it worth it? I'm just gonna hope for a vault one lol

[dark token]

anyone got the food sim string

[woeful meteor]

dont think they added something relevant since s1

[grand trail]

Unfortunately all trinket options once you get branch and sandglass is shit. Even signet brand is dogshit on sub 6min fight's.

[ornate hamlet]

Hi! If i used the free wyrms crest week 1 on my first craft, should I use my aspects crest on my week 3 craft so I dont waste resources?

[dark token]

this is missing hissing runes

and some other stuff

i think

[devout prism]

If your first craft was boots and your 2nd will be a toxified patch it's not really worth it to max that one out with Aspect's Crests right now

[woeful meteor]

ah true hissing got added later

[ornate hamlet]

okay, so aspect the boots, then just buy wyrms with my currency and enchant it?

for my helm

[devout prism]

There's a free wyrm's crafting crest from the campaign

You can use that probably

[ornate hamlet]

okay thanks

[gusty mirage]

#assassination message

[dark token]

and the food is 67 stat now i think

[odd dew]

what do i have to do to have nick of time drop

[ornate hamlet]

idk fryane ive ran 20+ fall

[icy iron]

Me nono either

[odd dew]

im at 60

[ornate hamlet]

no one

[dark token]

just loot it lol

[ornate hamlet]

holy fuck

damn

took me 40 for mydas for outlaw

[chilly mist]

Should we be using the custom APL found in the Fuu's sim when running our own sims?

[fleet wharf]

anyone have the simc string for racials?

[dark token]

enough for 2x nicks

[fleet wharf]

ty

[dark token]

i prepped my loot because i didnt loot it once in prepatch

[gusty mirage]

[odd dew]

i think ive decided to just quit wow cause of it lmao

[dark token]

why quit

itsa unlimited farmable

unlike the weekly lockout shit last patch

way less toxic

[ornate hamlet]

life before death

[odd dew]

because ive done it so many time slrready its ruined the game

but i got 6 sand glasss and 5 legs and chests with some boots and gloves

[dark token]

strength before weakness

[icy iron]

I mean its better that it’s in m+ instead of raid and you’re just praying once a week for it ya know

At least there’s that

[odd dew]

id rather raid cause then i dont have to torment myself 15 times a day to try and get it

[analog valley]

dude my sims are all over the place with stats... changing 1 gear and i move from mas/crit gems to haste/mastery or haste/vers

[vestal schooner]

As nightelf, is shadowmeld then stealth a thing in m+ to go into stealth?

[royal lantern]

welcome too gem sims

thats why they are kinda w/e lol

[analog valley]

damn that's harsh... i think i spent 50k gold on gems alone

[dark token]

???

[gusty mirage]

ye unless there's like an aoe cast going off cause that keeps you in combat

but if you're fast enough you can meld->stealth on trash

[dark token]

dont minmax ur gems if its like 100 dps diff

save gold

[royal lantern]

^

like

do a gem sim when something bigger happens

trinket drops or shit like that

[analog valley]

it's not 100~ diff, it's more like 2K diff

[dark token]

only way its a 2k diff

[vestal schooner]

fast enough like even with my dots are on ?

[dark token]

is if u unequip all ur gems

then re equip

[gusty mirage]

yeah you can still do it w/ your dots rolling but the window is super tight

[analog valley]

got trinket and had to change it all, got the last 4 set and again. got a belt and so on.. it's 2-3k diff every time

[gusty mirage]

you'll get it down after a few tries tbh

[vestal schooner]

macro and spam the key

[gusty mirage]

and sometimes you just accept that the aoe casts the DH isn't kicking are griefing you

and you just get sad

[spiral pasture]

has anyone simmed how much of a gain it is to delay embersoul a bit into DM?

[vestal schooner]

well im happy that its a thing at least

[gusty mirage]

ideal use of ashes is 3s into your KB window

[spiral pasture]

and i was happy abt not collecting orbs, still some catch to this one too

[strange python]

Is there anyone here familiar with elvui settings

I need to make it so my bar 1 dissapears when i enter stealth and another appears

[static tapir]

yes @strange python

[strange python]

I had that when i took someones profile from the net, but now ium trying to make one of my own

[static tapir]

pm me

[chilly magnet]

!plater

[strange python]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[vernal radish]

hi, quick question. During Tyrannical week is it me who only struggling with energy or im doing something wrong?

[strange python]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[reef oxide]

which build are you playing?

[strange python]

and run arterial maybe

[reef oxide]

yeah

i prefer the aterial shock build

cause it takes blindside

i think techncially that build does a bit more damage but you get energy starved

[vernal radish]

alright thank you will try the aterial shock build

[sonic schooner]

i even go without CT because the aoe is not necessary at all, enough aoe from multi dot / 4P / caustic / pb blablabla

on 22 23 24

[strange python]

Don't listen to this guy

[analog valley]

for overall sim (raid and M+) do you guys use dungeon slice or PATCHWERK with 5 targets and lower timer?

[reef oxide]

ive been told in this discord that dungeon slice is better to sim for rogues

[glossy grove]

I got a question guys, im 4p since some days, and i had to replace my legs for (which were crafted with toxified thing), I already got my boots with 486 with the thorns embellishment. So right now, this thorns buff isn't boosted by 100%. I still have to craft 1 item this week, but im not sure, i simmed it, and it shows me to craft lariat for Multitarget and alcritous alchemist stone for ST. But what about the 2nd toxified thing?

[reef oxide]

for m+

[analog valley]

i saw whisper saying that setting PATCHWERK with 5 targets and 1.5 min is for AOE

[reef oxide]

listen to him then

[analog valley]

i do. but i look for overall not just AOE

[reef oxide]

what do you mean overal?

[analog valley]

raids and M+ stats

[strange python]

like good at aoe but not sacrificing too much ST (i take that as)

[analog valley]

like in middle ground stats

[strange python]

any of our builds are good with that honestly

[reef oxide]

pretty much just add caustic splatter

for aoe

[strange python]

now sub gives up like barely any ST in their m+ build

[reef oxide]

to any build

[analog valley]

eexactly but i only need the stats part

[strange python]

yeah i dunno what "the stats part" is honestly

[analog valley]

gems + enchant

[reef oxide]

i mean

[strange python]

oh - you're looking to like optimize your gems for m+?

[solemn mason]

You are over thinking it

[strange python]

just optimize them for ST really

If you wanna get into the weeds, you need to just think about what sim-type most-closely reflects the types of encounters you want to excel in.

and then have at it but

[analog valley]

when it comes to over 2-4k dmg diff it's not overthinking

[strange python]

that's too much caring for me

[reef oxide]

almost every specs stat weights change based on the encounter

[solemn mason]

Do you...

[strange python]

2k dmg - is definitely over thinking it lol

but yeah, do you man

[reef oxide]

i wouldnt worry that much about balacing your stats for ST vs AoE

[rugged zealot]

Do you think Sin is better than outlaw for keys (if the tank likes to chain pull)?

[strange python]

I think they're both good honestly...play what you enjoy most and are better at imo

[reef oxide]

depends on target counts

[timid talon]

tell them you'll brick this bitch if they dont let you restealth - works every time

[strange python]

That's why we dont get invites

[short quarry]

what does sin even do for high target counts? im coming from outlaw and my hands hurt : |

[reef oxide]

multi dots

[rugged zealot]

Thank you 😄

[strange python]

They make a guide to tell you exactly this, in detail

[reef oxide]

and crimson tempest

[short quarry]

mostly just shooting the shit here man. ill look it up in more detail later

[strange python]

You get 8 people here, will kinda tell you 8 different things, based on the same guide...so just read the guide

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[strange python]

sub is gonna be better at truly high target counts

[raw cedar]

Quick question - do you pool for sanguine (last seasons tier) during trash packs or let it bottom out to get more bleeds out?

M+ build btw

[reef oxide]

you have excess energy in m+ packs

[strange python]

Sanguine Blades? You technically play like it doesn't exist (at least with new 4p)

[reef oxide]

you cant really pool

[lucid silo]

Whyspr has a video on his YouTube for this

[raw cedar]

Thank you for this tip I’ll go check it out.

[icy iron]

Yeah honestly if your spreading bleeds correctly in aoe pooling isn’t even an option really as u physically just shouldn’t be able to spend the energy coming in 😂♥️

[glossy grove]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[icy iron]

No, Fu D:

[glossy grove]

Can someone advice me?

[strange python]

I think most are doing toxified patch on wrist - at 476?

because the crests are better spent on other things.

boots at 486

because a higher ilvl waist is available (which has more stats)

[glossy grove]

Sounds logically to me

Ty

[strange python]

np

[hidden inlet]

why does sim use mutilate over ambush during sd? not always but usually

[strange python]

i think it's for poison application chance

it's like ~100 total dps difference, at the end of the day?

if memory serves me correct

[grand trail]

who baited me

jesus

[oak tangle]

Baited by what

[stark oxide]

The anniversary neck

What is that against btw?

[grand trail]

someone say its as good as mythic one

[oak tangle]

How and where is that a bait though

[grand trail]

and i have 470

[spice spire]

Pins

[gray crest]

are you able to farm the neck or is it just once a week?

[gusty mirage]

outlaw rogues

it's daily

gl hf

hope you still have your eranog ring roujin

[gray crest]

too far oxi

i still have ptsd

[gusty mirage]

you eventually got it

[oak tangle]

“With PI in order to give it the best possible chance, it's around equal to a 472”

Taken directly from the pin

[gray crest]

I infact, never got it

[gusty mirage]

well

get back in there

[gray crest]

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-gif-24395495

[oak tangle]

I have 17 hours until raid, I need a nick of time still, I need to sleep, what are the chances

[stark oxide]

If you grind hard enough it might drop just in the nick of time

[oak tangle]

i meant of sleep

XD

[rotund idol]

Do we run caustic splatter?

I know wowhead/icy doesnt but most logs show people do take it

[strange python]

sometiems we do

[burnt venture]

For any cleave yes.

[strange python]

Short answer, if spatter is gonna give more than IB, then you use it.

[burnt venture]

If PURE ST you take the IB talent

[strange python]

if there's anything to cleave ever i pretty much just swap that point

[rotund idol]

Alright appreciate it

[still creek]

I spammed for 2 days, and really fucking late one night i was gonna go to bed but said ‘’fuckit, one more key’’ and it dropped that key

[strange python]

damn

[still creek]

Moral of the story, dont sleep, spam doti lower

[strange python]

I'd be hard pressed to give up this 10% leech man

[subtle tundra]

mine dropped in a key done bcs i was mad right after raid and just before reset

[slow chasm]

thats what I did

with some LoL breaks

and I just got mine

[pseudo rivet]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842817103354658817/1154475731108249700/image.png

[placid robin]

is anyone analyzing logs? i see wowanalyzer is not updated, i switched to rogue couple days ago and i practiced but i feel i am doing something wrong on ST

[strange python]

I think there are folks that do - but it's SLOW in here rn?

[strange python]

maybe post and sometimes they make a thread for you

[dark token]

typical eu pug experience

[strange python]

maybe ping whispyr, or oxi, i dunno

[vestal cliff]

Is there a BIS effect for the dagger?

[subtle tundra]

yes!

nick of time!

timestrike

[strange python]

it's leech or mv speed

@balmy condor is there a stand alone version of the glowing debuff plater mod?

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[strange python]

I value life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. So I take the leech.

[vestal cliff]

Nice thanks

I think i go with the critter effect 😎

[manic coral]

is there any wa for optimized tea timing during kingsbane

similar to sepsis wa last tier?

[strange python]

[slate crown]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[slate crown]

LE’s profile, top result should be the KB timeline

[manic coral]

sick tyvm

[strange python]

fuuuuu

that sucked

[misty holly]

Now you can fly on the bee mount!

[strange python]

yeah now i can pick herbs properly lol

[coral gulch]

what poisons do i apply on m+ build? instant or deadly?

[strange python]

you only have 2? No DTB?

you always pick deadly over instant though

[coral gulch]

wow head build i imported doesnt have DTB so i guess only one

[strange python]

yeah deadly

[coral gulch]

thanks!

[stark oxide]

You did spec into deadly after all

[real stirrup]

I think it's all done by a machine now: it's wowanalyser.com

pop your logs in there and it'll break it down

[strange python]

hrmm

not sure that's it

[humble socket]

This may be a dumb question, but i hold both my shiv charges so that it's up for kingsbane window, is this correct?

[oak tangle]

yessir

[slim hamlet]

It's 1.2% increase for me

[grand trail]

jesus

not happy

[slim hamlet]

I do still have this dogshit

[pure moth]

so do i

[bleak kiln]

IT DROPPED

[slim hamlet]

Fake

It doesn't exist

Just like branch

[bleak kiln]

only 22 runs

but now i need another one

[quartz kraken]

When i apply runes to my weapon it applies it to my mainhand first, then again in my mainhand and only then in my offhand

how do i preven tha

[blazing jewel]

Do rune poisons and then rune

Back to back runes usually bugs it

[subtle tundra]

you dont spam click

you wait a second

[static hedge]

I’ve learned that when you try to apply them too quickly, it’ll do MH MH OH. But if you take a 1 second break in between applying them, it’ll do MH OH

[oak tangle]

i've lost approximately 2000 gold to this

[placid robin]

says it is not updated and only shows stuff about garrote and rupture

[oak tangle]

if you link your log here people can have a looksie

[hollow river]

[blazing jewel]

[hushed fable]

Really? For me it rather looks like - if I apply rune during ready check, it will always go only on mh. - Otherwise I can do it as fast as I want and it still applies to both w/o any macro.

[lucid otter]

In the long run is it best to craft bracers with crit/mastery?

I didnt want to go off a sim where my gear is likely to change so quickly this early in season

[hushed fable]

In the long run it depends on other pieces that you will aquire. You can always change stats on any crafted gear anyway.

[worldly plank]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[strange trail]

for the witherbarks branch trinket, what does wowhead mean by 1/1/7 and 1/1/4?

[worldly plank]

u collect the first 2 orbs with 1 sec delay and the last with 4-7 sec

[spark scaffold]

what do you think about this talent build?

[mighty lake]

Does my mate lose his famed title if he leaves his guild he got it on right now?

[spark scaffold]

yes

[mighty lake]

What the actual fuck type of design is that xD?

blizzard moment

[harsh anchor]

Well the guild got HoF, he didn't

[spark scaffold]

well its tied to the guild not to the player

[strange trail]

do I use it with deathmark on? since its saying to macro it

[worldly plank]

deathmark + potion 😉

[strange trail]

can i elemental chaos for the potion?

[cosmic socket]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[worldly pewter]

how long should i be pooling my energy when its depleted on sin rogue during st encounters, is it an amount of time or certain amount of energy im waiting to hit before i start rolling through again

[balmy condor]

80%ish

[arctic socket]

So should I never be dropping below 100 energy because I’m using sanguine blades?

[balmy condor]

Yesn't

bit more complicated than that

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[arctic socket]

Ty

[woven frost]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[worldly pewter]

thank you for the help!

[arctic socket]

I currently don’t have any 2p or 4p, just picked rogue back up and I’m loving the changes

[oak tangle]

MISSION SUCCESS

I REPEAT

MISSION SUCCESS

[mighty lake]

Anyone have a working fix for increased camera zoom? It seems like after 19 years blizzard has finally patched it out of the game completely now?

[coarse cipher]

Hello , i am trying to cast sequence the assa opener but i have some trouble when i proc and i have to press ambush instead of mutilate. How can tell my macro to press ambush if there is a proc here ?

[balmy condor]

[untold pollen]

Should I play assassination or Sub? Which is harder to play

[fringe oxide]

I'm still lookin! Hopefully the flavour text is correct!

[lavish isle]

we can use 2x nick of time at same time ?

[balmy condor]

yes, it's very good

[balmy condor]

you can't

in a normal macro
/cast mutilate will auto-ambush because it gets replaced

but in a cast-sequence that doesn't work cause it looks for mutilate, can't find it, and the sequence breaks

no way around it

[coarse cipher]

uh

[lavish isle]

ok, so need 1 more xd

[coarse cipher]

i have to learn

but anyway thanks

[balmy condor]

np

[balmy condor]

what's considered difficult is different for everyone. General consensus atm is probably that they're about the same, but assassination is slightly easier in single target, and harder in aoe

but really if the rotation clicks with you

then it clickks

[real stirrup]

sim is saying to craft ring over life-bound bindings but it's not letting me put the toxic patch on the bindings for the sim.... do I just craft the bindings?

[balmy condor]

"not letting me put the toxic patch on the bindings"

what's that mean

should let you do that through the + menu

[young delta]

any good wa for nation?

[balmy condor]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool