assassination

[forest notch]

going to need a weakaura for that

[cunning basin]

I'm at 32 for the week

[midnight narwhal]

what's the command for the dagger buff ?

[cunning basin]

Pog

[deft vault]

yes

[cunning basin]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842817103354658817/1154475731108249700/image.png

[terse island]

Good to know, I have a mouse over garrote anyway but I wasn't certain

[midnight atlas]

it happened to me during raid, poisons dropped, i didnt notice and i started to post here "is my character bugged wtf i have no energy regen all of a sudden"

[proven jasper]

Get a weakaura for poisons

Promise it helps

we all forget

[midnight atlas]

it does especially when poisons used to drop when changing build

[wild beacon]

has anyone gotten ghost auras to work with whispyr's plater? i enable them but doesn't seem to have an effect

[proven jasper]

Yeah especially then

[forest notch]

ya opener was def better with poisons

[strange python]

do u all still using the arterial shock build? do i need to change anything for tyra week?

[forest notch]

and was sustaining closer to 60-70k (again sim only has me at 84k)

so better I think

and basically it seems like we use vanish offensively

[midnight atlas]

sin rogue dps builds up during deathmark and slows down, then it builds up again and slows down again. depending on how long the fight is your dps will fluctuate so target dummy is not that relevant

[forest notch]

cool

well about to do gnarl so ill hav an actual log lol

[midnight atlas]

sim is like some robot doing math idk its magics, its used for gear not necessarily for how much dmg should i be doing

[forest notch]

didnt have time to look at the AOE stuff though

[midnight atlas]

good luck

[junior pulsar]

How much do toxic thorn footwraps do + together with toxiefied armor patch in a dungeon setting?

[strange python]

I'm gonna hang onto this mirror for when they nerf branch

[royal lantern]

why should they nerf branch

lol

[strange python]

lol i dunno

cuase it's a lot better than a lot of other trinkets

and i'm not saying they should lol

[mystic osprey]

what build are these mofos using?

[dark jackal]

Which build is the goto for m+ when you dont have any set bonuses and probably wont get until 4-5 weeks into the season?

[mystic osprey]

whatever mythic buildy ou like

you just have to take crimson tempest everytime

[dark jackal]

So once 4p is obtained that can be skipped?

[balmy condor]

that just looks like raid builds

[mystic osprey]

thats what I thought

but its for mythic+

and im really fucking confused

[balmy condor]

I mean I'm gonna be honest

I have no fucking clue what that thing you screenshotted is

and uh

I don't care

:)

[mystic osprey]

I have no idea either

[balmy condor]

all the log scraping compilation sites

are super ddogshit

[mystic osprey]

its murloc

[balmy condor]

^

I said all

[mystic osprey]

top 50 assassin rogues on m+ talent trees are meant to be there but its being buggy af

[mystic osprey]

You running hybrid or arterial atm?

[timid talon]

What's the plan for when they nerf us? We gonna go play hello kitty island adventure or reroll?

[mystic osprey]

we need a buff

assassin rogue is shit

[balmy condor]

lmao

[timid talon]

i agree

Kingsbane should explode in aoe for its full damage when it pops

[balmy condor]

you guys are actual personified brain rot

jesus

[timid talon]

Idk what you mean, i think thats fair

[mystic osprey]

assassin rogue is not good enough

[crimson zephyr]

Does someone have a macro for mutilate/ambush so I use ambush if I can and mutilate else?

[mystic osprey]

not even top performing class

[gusty mirage]

#assassination message

I gotchu fam

it'll cast ambush whenever it can (in dance/subterfuge)

[crimson zephyr]

-/cast [stance] Ambush; Mutilate is stance just like that? For sub I had /cast [bonusbar:1] Shadowstrike; Backstab so I use "stance" and not "bonusbar"?

[gusty mirage]

stance should work just fine

bonus bars, etc are the old way they used to handle dif stance bars

[crimson zephyr]

ah thanks

[hexed willow]

Rogues have 3 stances: no stealth, stealth, and SD

Subterfuge is categorized as SD interestingly enough

[mystic osprey]

holy fuck whispyr

youre fucking 471

[hexed willow]

It’s whispyr lol

[mystic osprey]

AOTC

wtf

[gusty mirage]

don't look at my profile

[keen spruce]

[mystic osprey]

you havent even full cleared normal and youre aotc

wtf

[hexed willow]

Shmeeps could be the top of m+ rogues

[gusty mirage]

@keen spruce did I tell you

I got my 2nd nick :3

[blazing jewel]

[junior aurora]

he bought his aotc obviously

[keen spruce]

[junior aurora]

thats why he hasn't full cleared normal but magically has aotc

[crimson zephyr]

So what's a good opening rotation for assa on a raid boss? ambush, snd, shiv, kingsbane, deathmark, garrot and 5-6p rupture, shadow dance and just ambush envenom repeatedly. Does that sound decent or dump?

[keen spruce]

did I tell you

@gusty mirage

I got 10 more io today

[gusty mirage]

that you're cute?

I already knew

[junior aurora]

check wowhead

[keen spruce]

[hexed willow]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[hexed willow]

Just don’t trust the method guide opener, missing ~85 dps in the opener

[crimson zephyr]

thanks

[hexed willow]

And if you prefer video content, whispyr’s stuff is fantastic quality and breakdown

[strange python]

[burnt venture]

Bruh it could be worse

Outlaw channel found out earlier that 421 eranog ring is BiS

With flame neck from event lmfaooooo

[strange python]

lol by how much

[gusty mirage]

you fucking WHAT

[hexed willow]

Please tell me that they simmed the helm embellishment too

[burnt venture]

Now they talking annulet and second guessing their lives

[mystic osprey]

sigma male

[burnt venture]

Shits wild

[gusty mirage]

my god

[hexed willow]

Tbf the neck is wonderful

[gusty mirage]

bro

assassination gets simped to the heavens

and outlaw in shambles

[strange python]

I love when sentences end in an exclamation point

[blazing jewel]

[hexed willow]

A free 463 neck that does a lil more damage until I can get a mythic neck

[burnt venture]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-embarrassed-steve-carell-turn-tables-gif-5482488

[runic hinge]

I'd simp for you too

[mystic osprey]

every single outlaw rogue ive played with has been absolute dog shit

[strange python]

I've seen some good ones

[hexed willow]

Last outlaw rogue I played with got an avoidance heroic nick of time 🙃

[royal lantern]

mate

wanna know something

#50 was not it

[gusty mirage]

😦

[royal lantern]

BUT #51 WILL BE IT FOR SURE

[gusty mirage]

did you fuck Ion's mom

what's going on here man

who did you piss off at blizzard

[hexed willow]

You got this

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-sad-sad-cat-cat-meme-gif-12065013016370441684

[burnt venture]

Meanwhile in law channel:

[strange python]

for 1.6%

[glacial grotto]

any other crimson tempestless enjoyers

[hexed willow]

Gl farming that

[strange python]

That seems not good?

[void mesa]

dont tell me its back fuck

[gusty mirage]

just have it in your bank like I do

[earnest remnant]

this is why we dont like outlaw

fcking demons

[dark jackal]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[burnt venture]

Lmao

[gusty mirage]

we've found something way more cursed than shadowdust ever could be

what a time to be alive

[royal lantern]

outlaw is a well desinged spec that cant use 80% of the stats in the game and instead crutches on item dmg procs

[strange python]

this is art

[glacial grotto]

Probably not

[hexed willow]

That almost sounds positive about dust

[earnest remnant]

nah

[gusty mirage]

brother

[earnest remnant]

its just less shit

[gusty mirage]

the onyx annulet talk

is making shadowdust look great

what is going on over there

are you guys okay?

should we send help?

[burnt venture]

Lmfaoooo

[earnest remnant]

they all coped it was gonna be an outlaw tier oxi

[burnt venture]

Zac in shambles

[earnest remnant]

an now they are more down horrendous than quake is every other satuday night

[void mesa]

Wait, I heard about annulet and thought it was a joke

dont tell me its actually coming back

I vendored it out of spite

[gusty mirage]

did you see what he DM'd me the other day

that's down horrendous

[earnest remnant]

no

[burnt venture]

Had to turn his stream off to go farm Eranog mythic probably

🤣

[royal lantern]

what

[hexed willow]

It’s not coming back for most of us

[blazing jewel]

[blazing jewel]

Quake is a qtpie

[gusty mirage]

this is what I logged onto discord to see

[junior aurora]

art

[void mesa]

can we not bring this back pls

[gusty mirage]

BRO I DIDN'T DO IT

[balmy condor]

I didn’t get one of those

[void mesa]

I KNOW

bUT LIKE

[blazing jewel]

Did you ask for it though

[gusty mirage]

NO

[runic hinge]

BASED

[junior aurora]

you have to sail across the asslantic to get one

[void mesa]

Quake doesnt know consent

[earnest remnant]

jesus fuck

[balmy condor]

Damn, but I’m in the passific

[junior aurora]

skill issue

[earnest remnant]

that beats drunk whispyrs arabic "I want it that way" shenans

[gusty mirage]

#assassination message

[gusty mirage]

that night included him telling Zine that league is not good for him and that he should get help

[blazing jewel]

Make him play wow again

[earnest remnant]

well thats just stating the obvious no?

[blazing jewel]

That’s healthier for sure

[blazing jewel]

Stealthi you missed twilight again

[gusty mirage]

[blazing jewel]

We watched 3rd movie last night

[earnest remnant]

i didn't "miss" it

im actively avoiding it

[gusty mirage]

first off @blazing jewel stop inviting stealthi to movie night, that's my job

second off

back the fuck off kyle

[blazing jewel]

You missed Jacob saying “I’m hotter than you”

[drifting cloud]

classic kyle

[earnest remnant]

kinda like leaving you on read, with your cooked sub smolderon ideas

[blazing jewel]

I’ll ping pleb

[balmy condor]

Oh you get those too?

[earnest remnant]

oh i just ignore most of it

[plush vessel]

im only at 3.3k mastery rn but all gear that gives me more mastery sims lower now ? i thought i was supposed to have more mastery - any tips ?

[blazing jewel]

[quaint flare]

ur trinket gives u enough mastery to feed africa

[balmy condor]

Branch gives a ton of mastery and devalues the stat

[strange python]

follow the sims

[blazing jewel]

This is a radioactive toxic raccoon

[junior aurora]

both of ur trinkets are beaucoup mastery

[gusty mirage]

damn

stealthi at least responds to most of my DMs

[earnest remnant]

Raczilla

[gusty mirage]

feelsbad scana

[blazing jewel]

@indigo ether can we recruit this Stealthi guy he’s like 2100io

[gusty mirage]

I miss the random 9pm discord sessions with stealthi being wide awake on a weekday at 3am his time for no reason

[balmy condor]

He also plays in a better guild

[gusty mirage]

GOD DAMN

[blazing jewel]

[earnest remnant]

think my rogue is 2.8k

[plush vessel]

yeah but sims say i cant get upgrades from mplus from this, feel like i should have more dps for raid tho ?, just no raid trinket issue or what

[gusty mirage]

there's actual murder going on here

[bitter birch]

using Arterial Shock build is Deadly Poison > Instant Poison?

[spice spire]

Jealousy is a disease get well soon xoxo

[dull cloak]

laughs as I take out socket 421 eggnog ring from my bank

[burnt venture]

Ya

[quick wedge]

Hi guys, i am new to assa(440ilvl) and have a lot of trouble with energy on singe target fights. After 50s of combat i am out of energy. Did 4 set gonna change this or maybe enough crt will fix this?

[gusty mirage]

prio for poisons is always amp (if talented into it) > deadly > instant

[junior aurora]

what about wound oxi

[gusty mirage]

so ye, deadly > instant

[junior aurora]

on sanguine weeks

[balmy condor]

Depends on your settings I guess

[gusty mirage]

I'm about to banana myself to never read this question again

[junior aurora]

[burnt venture]

Running out of energy is a thing on Sin. Read the guide and about pooling for envenom chains

[earnest remnant]

that is still the funniest interaction

ive seen to date

on this disc

[gusty mirage]

fuu ended up fixing it

that was the only contribution zine's made in the last 4 years

what a legend

[plush vessel]

just a 5min single target with my phials potions and so on

[blazing jewel]

[balmy condor]

I banned myself one time

As a joke

[gusty mirage]

zac found out he could perma mute me

[balmy condor]

Not realizing moroes claps my cheeks

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

Jealous

[gusty mirage]

??????

brother

do I need to drive down there and have an intervention?

[spice spire]

?

[earnest remnant]

like the sniper from mw2?

[blazing jewel]

[steel spire]

We don't have to whip out diurna right

[gusty mirage]

this man is down very very bad

[wet briar]

do u guys track the 2p?

[gusty mirage]

nah

[earnest remnant]

nop

[spice spire]

I’m about to beat NNN buddy

Chill

[earnest remnant]

wdym nah, i couldve sneaked it in there and you wouldnt know, lets be real

[spice spire]

It’s on sight

[junior aurora]

the last week is the hardest

[gusty mirage]

you spent all your time editing the icons

don't lie to me

[blazing jewel]

Check dms

[earnest remnant]

true

[gusty mirage]

bro what the fuck is this boss

[robust garden]

How do you guys see the waterdrops from branch on pull? Or basically every time you press it and something is going on

[earnest remnant]

they spawn in the same way each time

[soft shale]

jailer but instead of a stick he has an axe

[robust garden]

Yeah, front left, front right. straight behind

[soft shale]

everything hits for 80% of hp

every 20 secs

the boss

[gusty mirage]

do you have DHs and other rogues with branch?

[soft shale]

oh also dodge 4 things

[gusty mirage]

cause you for sure don't see them lmao

[junior aurora]

if anyone gets hit by anything raid wipe

[gusty mirage]

there's like 20 fucking balls flying around

[soft shale]

yea it is funny if you have dh/enha monk

[robust garden]

yep

[soft shale]

WATERFALL

[robust garden]

Or on Igira

[gusty mirage]

you just pray one of them is yours when you walk forward

[robust garden]

ah, well

[earnest remnant]

ah shit dude exile is on Assa again

[soft shale]

always top right

[strange python]

im p sure its not even that much of a loss if you just bind it with deathmark and let them come to you naturally

[spice spire]

Wish that were me fuck

[blazing jewel]

exile sin rogue

[gusty mirage]

probably better tbh

[soft shale]

sad days he was blastin

[gusty mirage]

one of them on sub and one on assa

[soft shale]

maybe the other pi target ayaya

[earnest remnant]

imma just coinflip it

when i get there

[gusty mirage]

exile playing bonerspike

what a time to be alive

seli and quake are bricked up rn

[earnest remnant]

good for intermission

[soft shale]

seli just got a message to log in

[gusty mirage]

lmfao

[blazing jewel]

Quake about to fail nnn

[soft shale]

spike is back in town

[gusty mirage]

oh god

are they gonna make me carry a seed

[soft shale]

also imagine we are in a world where zoldyck works with envenom now

[gusty mirage]

NOT LIKE THIS MAN

[soft shale]

wait and dodge 60 abilities

[earnest remnant]

i wouldnt mind doing that i think

[soft shale]

just dont get hit

[gusty mirage]

brother

[earnest remnant]

just think there are better classes for it

[junior aurora]

just gotta put your 4 best players on seed

[soft shale]

also in mythic you have to drop and change people with seeds

[gusty mirage]

I soaked a charge on council, and then shadowstepped into the deer and got double hit

[blazing jewel]

Melee space gets so congested with lines that would be spooky

[gusty mirage]

you think I can dodge lines on fyrakk?

[soft shale]

so chances are everyone has to do it eventually

[slim pebble]

Can anyone explain to me what it's like to loot a nick of time or a branch?

[soft shale]

= my guild will take 1k pulls

[spice spire]

I’m clean brother

[soft shale]

on this boss

[robust garden]

being so devastated from farming that you don't even feel anything anymore

[loud brook]

got 4 piece

wewww

[soft shale]

pog

[junior aurora]

luckily hacha the boss will be nerfed the moment they kill it lol

[gusty mirage]

it's like working really hard to get something, and when you finally get it you're just so emotionally destroyed that it's not even exciting

[soft shale]

it will get 2 or 3 more by the time i get to it

[earnest remnant]

just get it after 5 runs

its kinda easy no?

[gusty mirage]

okay buddy

[soft shale]

maybe pay 2 other rogues to run it with you

do the triforce outlaw assa sub

[loud brook]

I got 3 branches my first week

[soft shale]

unlocks extra loot

[steel spire]

The next one drops for sure

[junior aurora]

bro nick of time you even get 2 chances at a good drop with the trinket and the dagger

[earnest remnant]

got 2x nick of time after 5 runs
and took me 5 everblooms for branch

[gusty mirage]

surely

[soft shale]

i got trinket in vault

[loud brook]

I couldnt trade any, because we were doing progressively higher everblooms

[soft shale]

quite decent even as sub

[loud brook]

my heart broke so hard

[junior aurora]

only do 17+ keys

rookie mistake

[gusty mirage]

I got branch in 8

and our DH traded it to me

[soft shale]

i also depleted a DHT 21 because tank didnt know meteors on last boss buffed him if they hit him

[blazing jewel]

There are some demons in +17s

[soft shale]

[loud brook]

last week I was baby rogue. my main was lock last patch

[robust garden]

I learned that just now, thanks

[loud brook]

had to gear up from 423

[soft shale]

i've been having more success in +20

than +17

people REALLY want them

and really i mean 477 ilvl 2700 io

[junior aurora]

yep depleted a 20 because of that

[gusty mirage]

yeah cause people want their 20s for vault

lmao

[soft shale]

a man that has 31 20s timed

[slim pebble]

I'm also still 455 with 0 new tier after 2 heroic clears. (I gotta pug and can't get into random heroics)

[soft shale]

does not need vault

[loud brook]

20s are my endgame cause of the portals

[soft shale]

but he is WELCOME

ANY DAY

to my keys

he can be a feral idc

[gusty mirage]

yes he does

[soft shale]

actually maybe yea

[earnest remnant]

[gusty mirage]

no one can tell me people are running keys for fun

[junior aurora]

ive been called no one before

[hexed willow]

Some keys are fun

[gusty mirage]

I too am mentally ill

[soft shale]

tbh finally found someone in my guild to do keys with

having so much fun

[hexed willow]

17s are nice and cozy

[loud brook]

4 piece doesnt change anything rotation or talent wise right? it's just extra damage?

[feral rivet]

i think this season ispretty fun

[soft shale]

even as 2 dps

[gusty mirage]

just extra damooj

[soft shale]

just having someone to talk is huge

[feral rivet]

but wouldnt find it fun if i was pugging

[loud brook]

damooojjjj

[steel spire]

Guildmates for keys?????

[soft shale]

and big damooj

[hexed willow]

Except everbloom

[junior aurora]

everbloom is fine

[soft shale]

everbloom bit overtuned

[loud brook]

everbloom and fall for trinkets

[gusty mirage]

murzond's rise

[robust garden]

Everbloom is fun for sin

[gusty mirage]

is the worst fucking dungeon

ever invented

[junior aurora]

its murozonds rise that is the mind killer yeah

[hexed willow]

Got a server lag spike on everbloom and it was fucking miserable

[soft shale]

a 23 i was getting clapped by everything

[loud brook]

throne is kinda badly designed

[soft shale]

ended up doing it on 20

[hexed willow]

Can’t dodge ice rocks when you can’t see them appear

[steel spire]

Everbloom pulls are big fun

[gusty mirage]

yeah but you kinda give it a pass because the dungeon is older than 90% of #outlaw

[loud brook]

cause the graphics are showing a false level of the ooze

[feral rivet]

i dont really mind throne after the nerfs to last boss, its easier on tyrr this week than last week on fort

[soft shale]

i got hit twice by the frost part+ arcane bait on mage boss

[junior aurora]

conservative estimate

[burnt venture]

Lads, let us thanks the gods that Nick of Time is in the free side of DOTI and not Rise

[gusty mirage]

as long as lok still plays outlaw

[junior aurora]

ask an outlaw player what the spec used to be called

[soft shale]

fuck rise

[gusty mirage]

he'll bring up the average age

[soft shale]

im so not looking forward to having to run it this week

[robust garden]

god bless

[hexed willow]

Oh and feint not working on the fire part of the 3rd boss and cloak not working on the ice rocks

[gusty mirage]

I'll never forgive lok for griefing me in my 1800 game in s3 of SL

I needed 1 win for 1800

and he refused to die

[junior aurora]

cloak works on the ice but doesn't work on the fire ground

[soft shale]

i didnt expect the wa to be late

[gusty mirage]

he made me queue more pvp

[soft shale]

so i didnt shadowstep fast enough

[hexed willow]

I’ve tested it and still gotten frozen

[hushed fable]

Tell me how it is to be invited to +17 onwards on Fall. Man timed 20s 1st week on 451 ilvl and can't get even to 18s this week with 465 ilvl. Sad pepe.

[junior aurora]

whats your io

[feral rivet]

cause in 17s you get 20 475+ ppl applying

[drifting cloud]

because theres 40 other people in the queue

[gusty mirage]

fun fact about cloak, there's like a 1s super immunity portion that works on most things

[steel spire]

Gotta be 2600 to get into 17s

[slim pebble]

I've been booted out of two groups of people saying they meant to invite the DH

[loud brook]

to be fair, dhs be pumpin

[junior aurora]

you dont want to be in those groups

[burnt venture]

Lmfao DH does gap me every time

[loud brook]

I saw one do 1.5 mill on the rip

[gusty mirage]

need 4k io, cutting edge, and be 490 ilvl

otherwise not good enough

[hushed fable]

Yeah 2600... Why would I if I have all the protals week 1? Idc aboiut pushing

[junior aurora]

need legendary axe

[loud brook]

PFFT

[robust garden]

and no DH in queue

[gusty mirage]

some guy kept me in queue for 45 minutes

waiting for andybrew to sign up or something

idk

[past forum]

krill issue

[gusty mirage]

and I still didn't get the neck from dht

unlucky

[drifting cloud]

andybre plays on eu you silly!!

[gusty mirage]

u rite

[hexed willow]

Just get the neck from kazzak silly Billy

[gusty mirage]

ew

[junior aurora]

then you need to bust your eranog ring out of void storage

[gusty mirage]

next you'll tell me to pull out my eggnog ring

[steel spire]

Hope you still got diruna 2

[gusty mirage]

ofc I do

I suffered for that ring

[hexed willow]

We’re not outlaw, we have standards

[junior aurora]

are you ready for fated season

when everyone uses their dinars on eranog ring and whispering incarnate icon

[steel spire]

Fated fuck

[gusty mirage]

my old RL made me play indiscriminate carnage on dathea platforms cause our prot pally couldn't hold divine toll for 3 fucking seconds

[lavish isle]

are buffs from old season tier working ?

[gusty mirage]

I'VE SACRIFICED EVERYTHING

[junior aurora]

wrong discord oxi

[hexed willow]

I’m excited for bomb dispenser to break subterfuge again

[junior aurora]

im not playing with bomb dispenser again

ill gladly play with beacon again though

[burnt venture]

Bruh I’m still using dispenser

[gusty mirage]

dw sark cloak can take care of it for you if you don't wanna use bomba

[burnt venture]

Pls release me from this hell

Pls mydas

Or something

Anything

[soft shale]

only works first second same bullshit code as odyn runes

[steel spire]

I liked technique trinket

Goes zap

[soft shale]

best bet is step to tank

[gusty mirage]

Mydas being good this season is a warcrime

[feral rivet]

i didnt get my mythic bomb dispenser til last week before s3, i didnt have time to get annoyed by it

[past forum]

the time rift trinket simmed higher for me than bomba

[soft shale]

i still cant even

[gusty mirage]

none of you knew the pain of getting a mydas in bfa from your weekly chest

[soft shale]

my brain refuses

i had like 6 by the end of BFA

[gusty mirage]

I had 16

[loud brook]

I kinda hate kingsbane for aoe right now. It hits so hard that it actually deletes whatever I throw it at

[gusty mirage]

I kept them in the bank

[hexed willow]

I’m so happy I never got that cloak on my rogue

[loud brook]

nothing survives till the final tick on adds

[soft shale]

i sold them sometimes

[gusty mirage]

bro fuck that trinket

[junior aurora]

mydas trinket from bfa chest

[gusty mirage]

idc how good it is

[junior aurora]

was the biggest cockslap

[soft shale]

it has a heavy traume from me

[gusty mirage]

you log in on reset

run over to the box

and get a mydas

[soft shale]

im so happy i got hourglass M track with leech

[gusty mirage]

and you're like what the fuck

[junior aurora]

if you didnt get azerite armor in your box during uldir you were already a bricked character

[soft shale]

never have to deal with my nightmares

[junior aurora]

let alone getting the worst item in the game

[hexed willow]

Outlaw my 441 bomb dispenser sims higher than 483 branch

[junior aurora]

multiple times

[soft shale]

having to farm blue azerite in dungeons for double first dance + matrix

[loud brook]

that being said, getting kingsbane to crit 1.6 mill on a boss

[soft shale]

or triple SS

[gusty mirage]

then I get these outlaw rogues coming in telling me that mydas is actually good

[loud brook]

is an amazing feeling

[gusty mirage]

what an absolute tragedy

the PTSD resurfaced

[steel spire]

Outlaw in shambles

[soft shale]

assa will be cool if they make more strats of pulling % into boss

[junior aurora]

i would have preferred if blizzard just removed the drop instead of buffing it

[gusty mirage]

same

[loud brook]

I'd play more outlaw if it didnt have shadow dance

[soft shale]

im still waiting for arcway to be on m+ pool

[hexed willow]

Or make rezan’s eye agi too

[soft shale]

i want to relive the NEXUS MODE ON

[gusty mirage]

one day we'll get our old legion dungeon 2 set bonuses

[soft shale]

we had a competition

who could get nexus to proc more in a row

[steel spire]

Let me use daggers only as law

[soft shale]

funny pulls it was 30% of my dmg

[gusty mirage]

@soft shale you get arcway back, but you also have to do seat

do you take that?

[soft shale]

hey i did a 28

my ass is ready and i have gallons of lube

[junior aurora]

can we not bring arcway back

[soft shale]

HELL ON TYR HELL ON FORT

[gusty mirage]

seat of the triumvate might be the only dungeon that can compete with murzond's rise for being absolutely dogshit

[junior aurora]

don't want to spend an hour in a dungoen

[gusty mirage]

in every single way

[soft shale]

there was no decent week at all

[junior aurora]

50 minute timer

[soft shale]

you had all the SHIT mechanics on pulls and bosses

and of course in legion everything one tapped

[gusty mirage]

naturally

[soft shale]

unless you had the aggramar trink

[gusty mirage]

legion also had clear indicators for most mechanics

instead of this visual vomit we deal with today

[soft shale]

and you could actually pull lots of mobs

imagine

[halcyon hamlet]

Fuckin shaman doing crazy dps

[loud brook]

I legit loved bfa snake eyes outlaw

[soft shale]

that is blueman

of course

[gusty mirage]

I'm trying to see mechanics and I just have a demon the size of aggramar spinning around

[onyx nymph]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[gusty mirage]

2 pets the size of nzoth

and ofc they're big red and running around stomping

[soft shale]

i rekindled my hate for waycrest

[runic hinge]

You say things are clear and then I do DHT and wonder how anyone sees sanguine

[gusty mirage]

did you run with a ret paladin?

[loud brook]

I hate waycrest's camera issues

[soft shale]

i love all the tanks sincerely that just pull raz trash into courthouse

yea ret pala in brh is so good too

even the big boys get WOKEN

[fast pilot]

does anyone have a good envenom lightweight weakaura to track time

[gusty mirage]

ret paladin in waycrest is an absolute blast

one divine toll and your pull is now 20% of your trash count

it's pretty sick

[soft shale]

yea my guildmate is ret pala the spec is so much fun

also lots of utility

i guess for assa you coull pull lots of mobs into matron

and she may survive KB+DM

[indigo ether]

[forest notch]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MvHT9wdaCnk7X8ND#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=207

haha well getting a bit better at it but still pretty bad. Here is an actual log though.

[gentle rover]

https://wago.io/8OoXXJHuY this track the duration left on naturesblight if that's what you mean

[gusty mirage]

pleb can you tell kyle to calm down

comedically you guys downgraded from rae and vel big time

[blazing jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/meow-cat-gif-27161697

[loud brook]

I would download luxthos's weakauras and rip whatever you want off of that

[fast pilot]

ty

[spice spire]

Talk your shit king

Tell that fraud what’s what

[mystic osprey]

Download afenar

its better

[indigo ether]

scana go back to your kennel and think about what youve done

[steel spire]

Does sub also take neck ring combo

[cerulean nest]

anyone a Plater king? I want to edit Jundies plater to add a green border to the caustic target if poss

[hexed willow]

Neck was a 1% downgrade from bis I believe

[cerulean nest]

delete that

[spice surge]

For sub, so no not relevant

[mystic osprey]

1 percent downgrade

too much

[soft shale]

neck is fine

ring is not

although a good BRH neck or DHT one would beat it depending on gear

[mystic osprey]

black rook hold on bursting is actually painful

[subtle kiln]

unsubbed backseat driver is what’s up

[flint pond]

is there a way to position yourself on council for garrote/rupt to hit all three?

[hexed willow]

Tides on bursting is fun too

[subtle kiln]

brh is fine on bursting

[gusty sleet]

So I found some time to watch this RWF thing...those Rogues are insane lol

[soft shale]

yea two augmentations and PI is a hell of a stimpack

[gusty sleet]

Augmentations?

[soft shale]

it is a specialization of evoker

that increases dmg

[burnt venture]

Aug evoker buffs

[gusty sleet]

Ohhh shiz, so they get PI AND double other buffs?

[soft shale]

and they nerfed them MANY times

otherwise you would see 4 or more

[gusty sleet]

That's insane 0_0

At least I know rogues are disgusting, they're just stacked xD, so no nerfs lol

[soft shale]

assa is a great aug and pi target

sub works well with aug but not PI

[balmy condor]

bro showed up less than a week ago and already is most reasonable person I've seen in chat since the start of the month

[blazing jewel]

Pretty hard on opener for rupture but can usually garrote step garrote before they move

[gusty sleet]

If that's geared towards me, thank you lol

[flint pond]

yeah that's what I figured

ty King

[subtle kiln]

don’t think they’re Pi the sub rogues. 🤣

[gusty sleet]

So, I don't see myself outputting that level anytime soon, even with triple+ buff, but, generally there's a breakpoint where you go from mediocre or blah damage to "oh, that went boom" XD. Generally tier, or trinkets, or weapons, is there a breakpoint like that for Rogues?

[balmy condor]

there's a trinket from everbloom

which is pretty massive

[soft shale]

one changed to assa back

[balmy condor]

the new tier set is also really good

[gusty sleet]

@balmy condor The branch thing?

[balmy condor]

but in general its just lots of gear and knowing the burst rotation

yeh

branch

[soft shale]

im not too deep into the lore tbh im busy making the cc/m+ dungeon sheet thingy

just have it on second monitor

with split between echo/liquid/method

[strange python]

oh jpc playing sub

[steel spire]

F sin dead

[gusty sleet]

I'll just keep playing and passively gearing haha, 1 charge every 2 weeks for a tier piece is going to take a minute lol

[strange python]

[gusty sleet]

Whoa whoa whoa, Sin is king

And Queen

[balmy condor]

yeah pretty slow if you don't raid or m+

but kinda expected

[strange python]

You just gotta get ONE drop. You get one for hitting 2k, then you have 2 charges so

[subtle kiln]

at one point they both were rotation the augmentation to specific break points of the fight, including healers.

[gusty sleet]

My raid experience is going to be LFR for the time being, but I can defeintely slam some M+, the AoE Sin rotation makes me laugh lol

[strange python]

Why do it make you raff?

[steel spire]

Pretty fun ain't it

[gusty sleet]

I'm just enjoying Rogue period. Love the stealth aspect, love the poisons aspect of Sin, it's just fun and efficient

[soft shale]

you came at the best time for it

[strange python]

lol i think jpc nearly murderd someone

[soft shale]

just 1 patch before garrote and rupture were single target unless you used a cd

[strange python]

how quickly we forget

garrote [tab] garrote [tab] garrote

[gentle rover]

My tanks chain pulling im still tab'in

[strange python]

who does kalamazi raid with now?

[subtle kiln]

this is basically the worst problem the spec has now in m+

[strange python]

he's like doing liquid's voice over

[restive smelt]

Temerity on Hyjal

[gentle rover]

In M+ sometimes I just rupture a target that already has rupture while Indicriminate is up to finish my 20 scent of blood. Is this terrible? Or can I just keep being this lazy and still do just fine?

[junior aurora]

its fine

obv its optimal to try to get one without rupture up but missing out on 1 rupture while still being at 5 ruptures out is fine

[spice spire]

I have defeated the allegations

[subtle kiln]

Allegations? those are facts

[strange python]

If there are, for example, 5 targets - rupturing the same target twice - applies it to all 5 with IC

Same for garrote

At 6+, you're technically missing one then, but meh

[steel spire]

Mind numbing or atro for m+

[subtle kiln]

this week you could argue atrophic is better with how quickly trash falls overs. most run mind

[gentle rover]

I go numb on fortified and atro on tyrna

[fallen moss]

hi all, does the 4pc set bonus boost c.s. dmg?

[soft shale]

cheap shot does not do dmg

[bleak kiln]

i think i asked before, but does anyone know the actual drop rate of Nick of Time?

[hexed willow]

CS is caustic spatter here

[spice surge]

All items in m+ dungeons have the exact same drop chance

[cerulean nest]

y'all ever just

[hexed willow]

Heya sneaky

[spice surge]

So 1/6 assuming you get the 2/5 loot. So roughly 6.67% assuming you have no traders

[gentle rover]

When Whyspr talks about keeping envenom buff active for the pool rotation does he mean the 4-set or the 2-set?

[hexed willow]

It is more poison damage so it is more CS damage

4 set

[strange python]

just in general too though

even before 4p, but it's an even bigger difference with 4p

[low ferry]

4 pc envenom spam no crimson tempest gang

[hexed willow]

See you can still for envenom spam and do CT

[slim hamlet]

CT still doing like 5% for me not including it's sanguine blades

[strange python]

link what spec you guys are running

[slim hamlet]

on tyran 22's

Aintnoway I am dropping that

[low ferry]

i just swapped tempest for poison app cuz im built diff

[slim hamlet]

Built different is not always built better

[low ferry]

built diff m8

crimson tempest is bait

[slim hamlet]

[strange python]

i mean it's one global

and a lot of dmg per button-hit

[hexed willow]

Out of every 16 Globals

[low ferry]

one global to bait them all

[hexed willow]

Like cmon that’s huge

[subtle kiln]

it’s an extra button. no binds left.

[hexed willow]

CT is great

[balmy condor]

this is gonna be my vietnam this patch isn't it

[low ferry]

cuastic spatter and envenom explosion do dam too m8

give it a chance

and its 800 times easier

[slim hamlet]

21 CT casts

[subtle kiln]

just make a youtube video about it.

[slim hamlet]

5% dmg + lethal dose + sanguine blades

[hexed willow]

No it’s going to be in 2 weeks when more people reroll and ask shock vs hybrid

[spice surge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[gentle rover]

What does my io need to be to get into a galakron 18 hot damn

[hexed willow]

2800 prob

[gentle rover]

LOL

[slim hamlet]

I am not getting invited to 17 everblooms with a 22 done and 2844 io

So gl

[low ferry]

yea getting invited rn is cursed

time to just go play dota

[strange python]

wait, hitting envenom is easier than hitting a crimson tempest? how so?

[low ferry]

just one less thing to do for your set up

[hexed willow]

Envenom is my e button so a lot easier to hit than shift+R

[balmy condor]

[slim hamlet]

CT is not your setup

[hexed willow]

It’s not part of setup

[crude dove]

are the boots worth using without the decay patch?

[low ferry]

mad? 8)

[strange python]

i mean if envenom literally replaces CT - and there's no need to spec CT, then they need to buff CT

[hexed willow]

It’s the payoff lol

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/diesofcringe-gif-24606059

[low ferry]

lmfao

all memes aside i do find it fun to just blast envenomous explosions over and over

[slim hamlet]

Then it's fine

[low ferry]

just a crimson tempest hater

[slim hamlet]

It barely matters

[hexed willow]

Now the question of “is CT satisfying”? Thats a fair question. But it’s a damn solid button on 4+ target

Cause I don’t think it’s super satisfying to push, I need a nicer animation

[slim hamlet]

It got cool animation

[low ferry]

yea its stinky to push

[slim hamlet]

and it do big dam

and it do all targets

and it's conditional so u gotta think

[low ferry]

so does envenom explosion 8)

and caustic

[slim hamlet]

good button

Have I said those are bad

[mighty lake]

This our rotation? following a ytb vid 10d ago just checking if real

[slim hamlet]

And no they are not conditional

u just click

[low ferry]

foudn the clicker

[slim hamlet]

and no animation

[wild rapids]

why are most ppl crafting toxic boots + bracers, instead of toxic boots + waist, when the waist slot offers more stat budget? is there a specific reason?

[low ferry]

clicking his crimson tempest like a soyboi

[strange python]

just look at wowhead guide in the pins

[slim hamlet]

I guess it's just the bis of the bis

Barely matters

I got belt crafted so I can get CR wrist

[strange python]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[mighty lake]

Worth learning this spec? Hw much would blizz have to nerf it for it to get out of top tier meta rn?

[balmy condor]

doesn't that directly mean that you should craft wrists, because waists can go to higher ilvl?

[mighty lake]

I play a fair bit of M+ as well fyi

[strange python]

8.2%

[hexed willow]

Thats exactly why, crafted limited to 486

[slim hamlet]

Currently sin is just uhdk from s1 and s2

They didn't nerf that

who knows

[mighty lake]

That would take it to #2?

Or out of merta

[hexed willow]

Bracer is the lowest stat budgeted crafted leather piece

[strange python]

It would do more than that

Because then top players wouldn't all flock to it.
All the try-hards parsing 99's and getting PI's wouldn't flock to it.

[hexed willow]

It’s a lot of fun in all forms of gameplay

Fun community

Unless you’re a shadow

[slim hamlet]

sin m+ is more fun than raid

sin m+ is fucking banger spec

[mystic osprey]

I like sin in general

[lusty ermine]

is shadow dance build proving to be more optimal for single target in raid? is there a reason to not take dance?

[low ferry]

banger if you dont take crimson tempest ye

[strange python]

When one spec is just clearly "better" than the others, lots of people flock to it. And it just so happens we're pretty damn good with pi - so the numbers look inflated.

[hexed willow]

There is no other real build 😛

[slim hamlet]

It's better everywhere

U only don't take dance if u really don't like it and also really don't like dmg

[hexed willow]

SD is just better. Macro it with KB and don’t really think about it besides using garrote

[mighty lake]

I played with one of my 3.8k rio friends and we had to play around him a lot. He said that we need to never chain pull and that the packs need a priority big hp target a lot. Doesn't sound too fun to play around.

[hexed willow]

(If you hate it that much)

[charred mango]

I’ve been excited to swap to assa for m+ and raid but i can’t get the branch to drop and it’s putting assa behind 10k+ sim wise :(

[woeful wigeon]

how can i have 850+ mutilate stillno dmg of C splatter

[hexed willow]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Long In-depth explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:
https://youtu.be/DoZDPFk_Zog
The TLDW (I understand, it's LONG):

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths
• You still have vanish and in 10.2, shadow dance, which gives you MANY options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[slim hamlet]

Your friend was probably an aug

[strange python]

Are you mutilating a target that has Rupture on it?

[hexed willow]

@mighty lake stealth is nice and all but not the end of the world

[lusty ermine]

alrighty, thanks!

[mighty lake]

He's assa rog

[lucid rain]

what level keys was this?

[mighty lake]

a chill +21 everbloom pug

[slim hamlet]

There was no 3.8k assa rogue

[mighty lake]

last season

[slim hamlet]

Yes

There was none

[hexed willow]

It got some changes

[mighty lake]

He was DH I believe

[slim hamlet]

Highest was 3670

[low ferry]

he sounds like a crimson tempest enjoyer

[hexed willow]

Sin is in a good place numbers wise and is fun to play. Try it out

[slim hamlet]

Idk your friend kinda clueless about the spec

[lucid rain]

I can understand letting him stealth between pulls but complaining about having a high target is just like

whatever bro just hit stuff

[slim hamlet]

It helps to have the things he said

But is never needed at all

[mighty lake]

mythic raider and pulled 325k overall on that +21 everbloom as asssa

[hexed willow]

There will always be a “kill this target”

[strange python]

I mean if you're trying to inflate your ego and do 325k overall, yeah you need to be pulled around.

[slim hamlet]

Sure and I am a mythic raider that pulled 330k on a 22 everbloom saying it is not needed

[strange python]

But it's not necessary to time things

[balmy condor]

m+ players just say the darndest things

[low ferry]

people will stop taking crimson tempest youll see...

[balmy condor]

bro shut up already

[lucid rain]

[hexed willow]

LOL

[slim hamlet]

He trying to be as cringe as possible

I admire it

[balmy condor]

who's actually laughing

the bits dead

it's fine

[lucid rain]

whispyr has me on ignore confirmed

[low ferry]

not a bit

[lucid rain]

didn't see my kek emote

[hexed willow]

What’s a bit

[slim hamlet]

It's when something is a small piece of something

like a tiny bit

u know

[forest oasis]

pretty new to assa; is it normal that im out of energy quite often or does this mean i refresh stuff too quickly/unnecessarily?

[mighty lake]

From what I've read about this spec after reading about it rotation wise:

You have giga opener into keeping above 50% energy and keeping up envenom/rupture until your 1 min cds line up again rince n repeat?

[strange python]

I mean think about it - if someone truly pulled around our KB...and pulled a high-health target into each pull...325 is actually not a lot at all

[mighty lake]

That's the playstyle?

[hexed willow]

All your CDs line up naturally. It’s a roller coaster style

[mystic osprey]

Sorta @mighty lake

[slim hamlet]

depends on dungeon and week

[hexed willow]

Thanks impulse

[strange python]

yeah true

[lucid rain]

yee

[mystic osprey]

Just try not to screw up the opener

[slim hamlet]

330k is not a lot on everbloom, but it's a fucking lot on ataldazar

[wild rapids]

i guess if you see it in that way, sure, long term its better then - but for now you wont have the aspects crests for the max upgrades on the these offpieces anyways, right? in a few weeks you will have the 3rd and 4th craft for that

[hexed willow]

We also have nice utility

[forest oasis]

do people just auto attack when theres nothing to refresh to stay above 50% energy?

[hexed willow]

While chaining envenoms? Yes

[balmy condor]

that's why you don't use aspect crests to craft the wrists

[strange python]

No - we don't play around the 50% thing

[forest oasis]

two different answers

hmm

[slim hamlet]

You don't play around 50%

you play around pooling for 4pc

[balmy condor]

two different answers and the guide answers it

[hexed willow]

My answer isn’t playing around 50% it’s playing around pooling

[slim hamlet]

and there you would auto and vibe yea

[balmy condor]

[hexed willow]

You’re just auto attacking when you’re pooling

[slim hamlet]

I swear people read guides more in past seasons

[mighty lake]

https://youtu.be/rcLWQ0pfHCg?t=368 then this video (timestamped so u can click it), is wrong?

[soft shale]

dont worry you want to keep perma combat anyway for 15 stack signet

[slim hamlet]

tbf the whole pooling thing is very special

but damn

[forest oasis]

i mean i do read alot but i just missed it in the guide then

[hushed fable]

That's copium. People never read guides.

[strange python]

when i see someone with 800 subscribers, i take everything they say with a grain of salt (no offense to anyone)

[forest oasis]

only played sub/outlaw til now

[slim hamlet]

Maybe it was just because spec wasn't fotm

[forest oasis]

thanks, will watch the vid and read the guide more then

[hexed willow]

Rereading the question, missed it was just for energy. Thought it was about pooling 😥

[slim hamlet]

When I see someone with 100 subscribers and no real thumbnail talk about a spec I listen harder than ever before

[strange python]

I think your question was fair man

[bleak kiln]

anyone else has problems starting DOTI keys atm?

[oak tangle]

It’s in the advanced tips of the rotation guide

[strange python]

It's not like you came in asking something stupid...it's buried in the guide, and there's a lot to read.

[hushed fable]

Yeah, that's exactly that. Although I don't understand sub rogues rerolling to assa if sub is not that far off and tbh - especially in M+ - easier to play.

[slim hamlet]

When I see someone with 200k subs and a good thumbnail I know that guide is doggy

[balmy condor]

wait is this that genesis guy from a couple days ago trying to say that "sim yourself" isn't a good answer but "Your stats ideally are like 40% crit 45%+ mastery 15%+ haste 10% verse" is?

[lethal vector]

you gotta pick the dungeon from the list

[balmy condor]

aint no way that brother doing youtube

[lethal vector]

it doesnt work automatically

[soft shale]

maybe we just need more open mouth vibrant thumbnails

[bleak kiln]

yeah, but the key doesn't wanna start

[strange python]

You made it further than me...i didn't get past the ad

[slim hamlet]

His guide is all over my recommended

[balmy condor]

I didn't even open it I just saw the name

[strange python]

I watch whispyr for sin and hachadino for sub

[forest oasis]

as a sub fanatic, assa is very refreshing to play atm 😄 love the playstyle

[strange python]

[lethal vector]

oh i thought you were talking about actually listing the group. sorry, not sure then

[slim hamlet]

Tbf yoda is saying it's not worth to keep scent of blood up

So idk

No one seem to research before making guides

[hushed fable]

Yeah but I would assume that you read guides and you are active on dc. Unlike some rogues I met along the way.

[hexed willow]

It’s very strange of peoples attitude to class discord channels

[strange python]

I mean at the end of the day - mathematically there is a "right" way to do stuff...and a "wrong" way.
I'm sure that changing some stuff up isn't going to drastically affect someone's m+ key outcome or whatever. But that being said, people tend to come to this discord (and class discords in general) to learn that mathematical way.

[slim hamlet]

If you have been in most class discord you would understand why

[mighty lake]

If assa gets nerfed hard, outlaw still p good in raids or?

[oak tangle]

The worst rogues are the ones who link a heroic nick of time on their alt “is this good?”

[slim hamlet]

Outlaw is already pretty good

[mighty lake]

Tho that spec might be too high apm for me rn cba w that shit

feels rly boring and dull too

[hexed willow]

I lived in the warlock one for the better part of this year

But true retail discord servers are v different than classic

[strange python]

outlaw is fine now and so is sub

[slim hamlet]

I like to vibe in destro sometimes

They chill

They like us

Never meta

[hexed willow]

Nah

[slim hamlet]

Maybe they get their rework too

[hexed willow]

They’re sadder

I felt so bad every Wednesday they never got fixed

[slim hamlet]

is this good? What does timestrike do again?

[hexed willow]

I spent my time in demo like a degenerate

[slim hamlet]

Still don't have my branch so can't flex

[mossy hazel]

I'm using the non-acro M+ build from icy veins, but I'm feeling really energy starved at times. I'm assuming that's not normal, or at least just gear related? I'm only doing like +7s right now

[slim hamlet]

Depends on when u are energy starved

[mossy hazel]

Feel it real bad on ST boss

[slim hamlet]

If you are energy starved on like 3+ then you are not keeping bleeds, if on lower then it's normal

[strange python]

Do you know about pooling? Also, arterial feels less like that (to me) cause of blindside.

[slim hamlet]

Yeah it's completely normal on ST

Specially in m+

[mossy hazel]

Ok, I kind of figured, but it just seemed really bad so I wasn't sure. Thanks

[soft shale]

if you know you know

[slim hamlet]

what is this

oh

I see

Not a knower

[soft shale]

a prelude to disaster

[hexed willow]

I’m missing something too 😦

[soft shale]

ok let me put it directly https://imgur.com/E9ZsiA8

[slim hamlet]

[oak tangle]

is this any good?

[slim hamlet]

Where was it going

[shut owl]

OHHHH, is that what keeps happening to my keys with locks in em lol

[hexed willow]

That one fucking imp always brings back the bears

[soft shale]

his nation was calling him to fight

[hexed willow]

Thats what I thought it was but wasn’t definite

[slim hamlet]

I heard it was something with their 4pc?

[strange python]

just bring a boomkin

and they'll get kicked instead of u

[hexed willow]

Nah that’s an imp, they don’t interact with 4p

[slim hamlet]

smort

[strange python]

when you wipe ...
"Fucking boomkins"

[slim hamlet]

Or an ele shaman

[mossy hazel]

I was just thinking of trying out arterial, that looks solid too

[slim hamlet]

Their chain lightning still hits out of combat targets from way to far away for the 10th year in a row

[hexed willow]

Arterial is fun, I love blindside

[strange python]

yeah give it a shot man - it FEELS so much better, and there were some sims posted yesterday or something by whispyr i believe (maybe these are in the pins, i dunno) - all of the m+ specs are really so similar in output.

[shut owl]

acro utility still feels real wonky to me, but I was kinda obligated to run it today for my triple melee DHT marathon today t-t

[slim hamlet]

I would recommend venom rush + blindside AP build for tyrannical

Feeling real good on these long ass bosses

[strange python]

what did you drop, dance or tea? or other

[shut owl]

I used the utility build. drop tea

[hexed willow]

I love tea

[slim hamlet]

DHT is the only place where I would consider it too

[strange python]

yeah i thin i'd give up dance before tea

[shut owl]

it was 100% just for last boss

[strange python]

cause you drop dance and the 2 pointer above it - pick up 2% crit and acro

[mossy hazel]

It's always nice seeing PB go off in a big pack, but having blindside for ST again would definitely help with the starved feeling

[slim hamlet]

There aint no way I am dropping dance in m+

Tea would be fine to drop in fortified for me

[hexed willow]

Green tea, chai tea, black tea, nettle tea

[slim hamlet]

When tanks actually begin chain pulling now we are a few weeks in I am not going without dance

[oak tangle]

my favourite thing about the blindside ap build, is when you're sitting at tank level dps going into a dm window sub 35% and then you top dps for the fight

[shut owl]

thats it exactly

"wait, where did the last 8% of the boss' hp go, and why did you go from last to first"