assassination

[cunning basin]

^

just dump that tea all over your last two ticks of kb

nice coating of tea with your poison

or whatever

[blazing jewel]

That would cover 3 ticks bozo

3 tea ticks HUGE DPS

[cunning basin]

i said what i said

I didn't take math for a reason

numbers r dumb

[clever perch]

scana ily kiss me

/kiss

[cunning basin]

hot

[halcyon hamlet]

CT idoes less damage in 5 target dummy cleave than just spamming Envenom with CS

Is this how its suppose to be? Cuz in a rotation prio list, CT is higher but does less damage

With 4 pc

[cunning basin]

CT is not spammed

it is maintained

its a bleed

[fallen knoll]

You just want the bleed

[balmy condor]

I'm like 99% sure you're not factoring in the fact that CT does double damage on 5 targets

[cunning basin]

^ that too

[fallen knoll]

Besides idk but in m+ ct is kinda blasting

[balmy condor]

cause on 5 targets, 1 CT cast is stronger than kingsbane if you don't count caustic

[halcyon hamlet]

If that's the case then why is CT doing less damage? And this is not including cds. Just spamming rotation

Lemme redo the experiment

Will send screenshots

[dark garnet]

Do you spam ct?

[balmy condor]

oh boy

[halcyon hamlet]

nope

I know its a dot

Ill do a 30 sec 5 target trainin dummy

[scarlet orbit]

whispyr i have to say your guide is really well written helped me out a lot

[balmy condor]

glad to hear it

[cunning basin]

technically CT does do less damage than envenom, total, over the course of any given aoe fight. But CT does more damage per combo point than envenom does.

Since you're gonna be casting like 3-5 envenoms for every CT you apply

that just like, how dots vs direct damage works

[balmy condor]

based on the numbers I'm looking at, this dudes envenom+tier would have to average to 1.1milion per cast

to pull equal to CT

I'm very excited to see this

that's 1.1mil on 1 target mind you

[cunning basin]

thats only half a kingsbane per envenom, im sure its easily doable

i mean im 472 and mine hits for like... 140k

another 100 or so ilevels gg

[halcyon hamlet]

Hard to fcukin do a screenshot

Can someone join me in VC

And i can livestream it

[balmy condor]

[halcyon hamlet]

Just curious as to why thiss is\

[balmy condor]

it's not that way

[halcyon hamlet]

Im not saying CT is better cuz I literally believe it should be

But why

[balmy condor]

it is

[halcyon hamlet]

Come join me lol

[balmy condor]

fuck no

[halcyon hamlet]

Fine, Ill just record jesus

[balmy condor]

you're delusional if you think I'm gonna get out of bed to watch you hit a dummy and tell you that abilities do damage

[flint tusk]

just do a screencap video 4Head

it takes literally seconds

[celest marlin]

Hows assa doing this week in m+ compared to outlwa?

[halcyon hamlet]

Bro you could just say no, you dont need to be an asshole

Jesus

[flint tusk]

think it's mutual xD

[halcyon hamlet]

?? What

Im literally asking a genuine questionm

[limber lion]

Sure KB + Spatter does more damage than CT, but that's 4 Envenom casts and 16+ combo points compared to CT's one cast and 4cp

[cunning basin]

^

[balmy condor]

your genuine question makes no sense though

[clever perch]

/kiss whispyr

[cunning basin]

damage per cp

[balmy condor]

1 CT does way more

than 1 envenom

it's not even close to comparable

and that's not being an asshole

that's just math

[near valley]

hoow can people be playing no acro

this feels cursed

[junior aurora]

easily

[limber lion]

Do a dummy test where you press both once and see what happens lol

[strange python]

i dunno whats the problem, if u have 5targets, regardless the set piece , CT does always do more dmg than envenom

[flint tusk]

very easily lol

[halcyon hamlet]

Ill send a video but holy shit, Im literally just askinng as a newbie and Im getting shittalked for no reason

[mystic osprey]

we got a cleave build for raids or can we only switch to caustic spatter

[near valley]

must be an outlaw diff

shit feels so wierd

[rugged wadi]

@balmy condorMy guild is saving BL for 1st intermission on Smolderon because of the damage buff, now i'm not sure if i should use my kbs on pull and save dm for bl or just do the normal rotation, would u please share ur thoughts

[limber lion]

Just switch between Spatter/IB for cleave

[flint tusk]

depending on the amount. of cleave. generally spatter is enough.
but for some fights say council it "CAN" not will be worth going into IC instead of dashing

[limber lion]

That's it

[strange python]

caustic spatter is a very good cleave alternative

[uneven bronze]

dont u have kb for the 1st intermission anyway cuz it starts at ~1:10?

[junior aurora]

yeah if your guild is lusting just send kb and hold deathmark for the intermission kingsbane

[rain mortar]

He asking if he saves DM for intermission and just open with a basic KB with no DM

[uneven bronze]

ah i read it as saving kb as well my bad

[rugged wadi]

yea if i do normal rotation i have kb up but not dm

but if save dm for bl i might lose 1 dm window

because of timer

so i dont know which one would be better

[clever perch]

u switch to caustic spatter and take IB

on fyrak i wouldnt bother with ib tho

just caustic

[quiet oar]

But the dmg amp Phase make up

For one lost dm

[limber lion]

Just look what the top log is doing and copy that

[rugged wadi]

ok

thaks

thanks *

[limber lion]

Whoever is #1 likely experimented with both

[balmy condor]

you're not getting shittalked, you're just not taking a very clear fact as truth, the question got responded to by no less than 4 separate people with possible reasons as to why you could be interpreting the numbers wrong and the response was "but it's doing more", and then asking people to take the time to jump into a call

[faint trout]

IV guide says to macro KB and SD together. Does it matter which goes first?

[marble hemlock]

psure you dont wanna use dm on pull on smoldy. most guilds lust (at least on mythic) the third world in flames, because theres the least amount of movement there. so you just DM first/3rd world in flames, because 2 DMs with 100% damage+BL (with the last one running into execute as well), is stronger than 3 DMs (pull/2nd/4th) with one of them not being during amp and none of htem during BL. also, 4th world in flames is fucking awful.

[balmy condor]

dance has to go first

[haughty flicker]

SD first

[faint trout]

Cool thanks

[strange python]

i should makro that also

[faint trout]

Can I put bandolier in the same macro?

[balmy condor]

I guess you could

[mystic osprey]

IB?

[balmy condor]

but probably should get a branch

or an ashes

or like 15 other trinkets

and then macro those into deathmark

[faint trout]

Oh I will when I can, but for now, I have bandolier

[balmy condor]

[junior aurora]

internal bleeding, dunno what he means by use both bc they’re on a choice node

[balmy condor]

pray for drop

[junior aurora]

you just swap it to caustic spatter for fights with adds

[mystic osprey]

yeah

[halcyon hamlet]

@balmy condor Without CT

[mystic osprey]

rogue sucks ass on council

[static glacier]

what

hell nah

[halcyon hamlet]

With CT

Am I doing something wrong?

[mystic osprey]

we spread the bosses weird

so yeah it sucked

[royal lantern]

well, melee sucks too play on council

cus its a council fight

they ALWAYS suck

[static glacier]

want my aura that incorporates spatter and IC into luxthos?

or the individual auras?

[static glacier]

we ain't boomkins but we're certainly top 5

[mystic osprey]

not on that boss

[junior aurora]

you’re thinking about it wrong

[junior aurora]

we’re literally 2nd on council

[mystic osprey]

how bruh

[junior aurora]

one cast of crimson tempest is gonna be more damage than one cast of envenom, thats why you maintain the dot

[halcyon hamlet]

thats what im saying, for some reason the one without CT is doing more. Check out the video

[junior aurora]

dont look at overall dps

go hit those dummies, press envenom once

then go hit those dummies, press ct once

[jade abyss]

And wait..

[static glacier]

most recent council kill, as you can see both rogues are performing solidly

and that is with some player error on my part

[mystic osprey]

I reckon the bosses were positioned weirdly for me then

they were all spread out

i might just be shit as well

[static glacier]

you'll have 2t cleave for opener and probably like 60-70% of the fight

[willow kite]

council damage is insanely dependant on how popega your tanks are

[static glacier]

then they split them / you're told to go focus one alone

[mystic osprey]

yeah

[clever perch]

i agree

[mystic osprey]

they were always pretty split

[clever perch]

so hard

[balmy condor]

this was 5 envenoms (4 tier procs) for a total of (I'm going to ignore poison applications for caustic) 4.24 mil. That would put 1 tier procced envenom at around 1 mil with all the damage from all the sources added up, if I'm being super generous

this crimson tempest did that

without counting sanguine damage

or lethal dose

[mystic osprey]

sigma whispyr

[balmy condor]

or anything else

[mystic osprey]

damn bruh how your tier set do that good

[junior aurora]

bear should almost always be next to the one the raid is attacking for cleave

[mystic osprey]

just chaining properly

[halcyon hamlet]

Just checked the vod and it looks like CT did 2m more.

So I guess its just details?

Im so confused now

[balmy condor]

you're also automatically skewing your numbers cause you're hitting the dummy below 35% hp

I assume zold

[junior aurora]

gotta be zold

[balmy condor]

I mean I don't know what it is

but CT is just undisputably stronger

[junior aurora]

otherwise thats a lot of dps for no zold or kb

and just pressing envenom lol

[thorny lion]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[halcyon hamlet]

I understand. Just weird to me when I tried it

You were right

Thanks

[balmy condor]

np

[faint path]

Can a nyone send me caustic weak aura

[mystic osprey]

why you need caustic weak aura

[faint path]

ıdk I just wanna see

[mystic osprey]

all the shit comes up on here

I think theres a command tho

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[mystic osprey]

there you go

[faint path]

Guys whats ur stats?

[willow kite]

In a practial aoe scenario, assuming you'll still get full KB and spatter usage but not a 2nd KB - is it then worth getting CT up prior to starting the ST kingsbane spatter burn?

My headmath would say it is, but I might be missing some details

[steel ridge]

as many as possible

[woeful hollow]

anyonbe have a dm witherbark macro

[cunning basin]

True and based

[dusty phoenix]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[cunning basin]

#showtooltip
/Cast Deathmark
/Use 13

13 is top slot 14 is bottom slot for trinkets

[haughty flicker]

on use goes in bottom slot smh

[dusty phoenix]

guys does anyone have the kingsbane timing bar WA?

[woeful hollow]

can i do bark before dm

[cunning basin]

Bottom slot is reserved for passive trinkets like bomb dispenser

[woeful hollow]

or is it better after

[cunning basin]

It genuinely does not matter

Bc you don't get shit til you grab orbs lmao

[keen spruce]

On use always go in 13 smh

[cunning basin]

Thank you shmeeps

[static glacier]

is it just me or is the whole claim of AP m+ build being better fake?

[cunning basin]

Out here spitting FACTS

[oak tangle]

just use
/use Name of Trinket

and pick whatver slot

[static glacier]

its behind in dslice AND patchwerk

in sims

[keen spruce]

There is no claim that it’s better

[cunning basin]

Have you actually used it

[static glacier]

yes

plenty

[keen spruce]

There is only claim that none of it matters

[cunning basin]

^

[keen spruce]

And it’s all basically the same

But blindside make gushy noise that we like

So we play ap

That’s it

[static glacier]

farewell ap, you'll be missed

honestly im not concerned about the aoe

its moreso that it sims 2.5k less in st

[keen spruce]

That is

[steep tendon]

fuck... thats the QoL I was missing

[keen spruce]

Basically nothing

[cunning basin]

In my opinion, stating an opinion here, I find arterial to be on average better at dealing burst aoe, where the DTB build leans so heavily into caustic that if you're not having thick targets for it every pull you just won't do much damage

[keen spruce]

But you do you

[static glacier]

its hard to judge zoldyck tbh

and its interaction with sd

[cunning basin]

But I also run with a havoc dh so getting a target to live a kingsbane is like asking the devil to turn down the heat

[steep tendon]

This has been my hell too...

[static glacier]

Ive started co-ordinating focus target sfor people so I can try to get a full kb + dm off on some packs

[keen spruce]

I find it much easier to compete with hunters and dhs with the AP build in bursts situations where the amount of hp you’re fighting over is very limited

[static glacier]

i dont know if anything below like 25-26 will be easy to always get kb value

[cunning basin]

Trust me when I say, don't try to do ethical DPS, get bleeds on some stuff and IMMEDIATELY slam an aoe shiv and that shit will just pop at 20% hp

[static glacier]

ill alternate for a while and see if there's a noticable difference

[keen spruce]

I get roughly 0 on value on trash on 23s except for lieutenant mobs

[static glacier]

ngl though my boss damage is

at times dissapointing

[cunning basin]

AP build is sick for padding with SD cuz you can cheese the fuck out of it lmao

[steep tendon]

You've sold me. Spamming that tomorrow.

[static glacier]

compared to the demo / bm and enh I sometimes play with

[cunning basin]

What's the difference for you? I was doing less with DTB on most bosses, especially drawn out tyran bosses

[oak tangle]

this is the ap build on bosses when you delay deathmark

https://tenor.com/view/bluetire-gif-22063309

[cunning basin]

With AP build I usually sit between 120 and 150k depending on if I get a second round of dm in

[cunning basin]

ON GOD BRO

[keen spruce]

look

[mystic osprey]

got my chaining down

[keen spruce]

yall are lost in the sauce

[mystic osprey]

much better nowq

[cunning basin]

Shit CRANKS

[keen spruce]

about sims

and how things feel

I'll go into a 22 waycrest and do like 160k overall and almost 2 chest it

[cunning basin]

Ye

[keen spruce]

then i'll go in again and do like 250k overall

and barely time it

then i'll go in and do like 230k and brick it

[cunning basin]

I mean I did 2 chest a 21 doing 130 LMAO

[keen spruce]

and yall are bean counting

[cunning basin]

So like numbers are kinda fake

[keen spruce]

over 2.5k sim differences

like that actually matters at all

in an M+ setting

[cunning basin]

Hey don't say y'all like we all pay attention to sims

I just click my buttons and watch myself skyrocket to the top of the meters during cds

[keen spruce]

the only reason

[oak tangle]

i'm finally biting his ankles (my dh friend) 5 ilvl lower than him

[keen spruce]

those different builds are even on the guides is so people don't come in here askin about them all the time like "he what about this build? is it good? why isn't it in the guilde?

[steel ridge]

upside down details, jesus christ

[keen spruce]

which hilariously

[steep tendon]

He just wanted to see himself above the DH

[keen spruce]

just leads to people comin in her asking "which build is best, do i take this one on tyran or fort?, which one should I use, why do you like AP>:

?"

[cunning basin]

the upside down details is cursed ngl

[oak tangle]

there is legitimate reasoning behind upside down. and that's because I don't like names moving when i expand in raid

[cunning basin]

i mean i feel like asking why we like ap is a fair nd okay question

asking which build is better is like

[ancient rain]

Lemme just garrote snd garrote rupture Fok rupture mutilate shiv dance kingsbane envenom Fok envenom while my demon hunter has a green glow around him that explodes and nukes the 16 flowers we pulled with bl

[keen spruce]

i'm not sayin the asking is bad

I'm just sayin

[cunning basin]

I usually just throw out what ive found in playin with shit

[keen spruce]

there's no difference just pick one and smack stuff

[cunning basin]

not trying to say anything i say is a fact

[keen spruce]

there isn't even a rotational difference

like

just go play with either for like an afternoon

and the only thing you'll notice is that blindside makes a gushy sound when you ambush

which is nice

[static glacier]

I can't really say, had a ton of gear changes

[balmy condor]

shmeeps sounding more and more like just a whispyr breakdown

[oak tangle]

the hybrid i feel is less punishing on ST if you fuck up your shit. or at least that was my experience as i was learning how to play

[balmy condor]

they grow up so quick

[static glacier]

but I don't think it was noticable upon switching much

[oak tangle]

don't ask me why, but that's just what i felt

[cunning basin]

if it isn't noticeable then it probs doesn't matter

sims are barely relevant in st raid fights, much less in m+ where every dungeon is gonna be different

[balmy condor]

for now

[cunning basin]

i like AP bc blindside gives me serotonin

[cunning basin]

im scared and... aroused?

[balmy condor]

#assassination message

[cunning basin]

oh yeah

[steep tendon]

Wait that's actually wild

[cunning basin]

now im intrigued

that sounds like there's some serious cooking to be done

and im all outta kitchen?

[oak tangle]

my sis has access to uni mega pc, ima just run a local sim on that

[bleak ivy]

I'm worst assa on here fr

[cunning basin]

false, im sitting right here bro

stop trying to usurp me

[bleak ivy]

Logs say shits supposed to be most broken class in the game I get shit on by huntards

[cunning basin]

start with that dungeon megasim and then move to the full 20man raid sim

[bleak ivy]

My fault

[cunning basin]

bruh im getting styled on by a UH dk

[balmy condor]

yeah except their codebase is entirely setup for their warcraftpriests webpage and it spits out some hideous CSV shit that the page can interpret into a graph so on top of having to refactor the whole thing to "not priest" I also need to write my own CSV parser that will convert the thing into something vaguely readable by a human

so

kinda fucked

but we'll see what happens

idk if it's even possible or if the roots are too deep

but it's something I'm looking into

cause I'm gettin real sick of dslice tbh

[cunning basin]

that actually sounds like some mad science shit man

you work too hard lmao

[bleak ivy]

Whats this about what did I miss

[faint path]

Arterial definetly better denifentlyyyy

[cunning basin]

think this a take we can all agree on tho

[oak tangle]

need that crowdfunded cloud computing latching onto all rogues pc's

[balmy condor]

tldr is python script for dungeonslice but 6 hours instead of 6 minutes and requires like a days worth of cloud computing

[cunning basin]

anytime someone brings up dslice im like just dont

[flint tusk]

Whispyr.

[cunning basin]

why is that so threatening?

[steep tendon]

Because talking to people is scary... but when they're quiet it's even scarier?

[balmy condor]

I'm trying to push this change to github for a pull request I promise I'm trying to go to bed my cat keeps walking over my keyboard and fucking up the changes

it's not me I swear

[cunning basin]

its the period at the end i stg

[flint tusk]

That’s heavy cope blame pushing right there.

[steep tendon]

Oh yeah... no it's probably that

[cunning basin]

guilt trip your cat

when mine starts fucking with stuff i tell him to get a job, freeloader

[bleak ivy]

My cat is a sphynx bro is beerus

I cant speak up

[balmy condor]

when my cat starts fucking with stuff I slap his belly and toss him onto the floor

[cunning basin]

you're toast

[flint tusk]

But what if you’re confused and you’re the actual cat.

[cunning basin]

meow?

[flint tusk]

See this is why you get a chunky lazy british shorthair

[steel spire]

just chase your cat around

and go rawr

[cunning basin]

alright i think i got one more fall in me tonight before im putting off farming a second dagger for tomorrow

[flint tusk]

Based true and real. They love it and then passout for hours 😂

[bleak ivy]

Go to sleep NA

its EU time

[cunning basin]

its not quite bed time

[bleak ivy]

Our shift

[cunning basin]

not till 6

[flint tusk]

Technically it’s asia time

Or

[cunning basin]

i work 3 am to 8 am

usually

so

rip

[flint tusk]

OCEANIC as blizz says

[bleak ivy]

You work nights ?

That seems like a hassale to organise

Your day

[cunning basin]

if you think about it everywhere is oceanic since we're surrounded by oceans

[bronze pike]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1118932301859000431.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

Shake cat

[oak tangle]

OCEANIC HOURS BOIS 9 PM

[flint tusk]

See ^^^

[cunning basin]

ain't too bad, go to bed around 6, wake up 12-1, raid at 730, game for a bit then work

[bleak ivy]

1PM here

[oak tangle]

FRIDAY NIGHT YEW LETS GET DRUNK AND FUCK KEYS

[flint tusk]

3 hours left before we come for dat ass @oak tangle

[keen spruce]

the keys have dried up

it's time to bedge

[cunning basin]

felt

[flint tusk]

Wait you get keys?

[keen spruce]

keys after midnight pst

[cunning basin]

shmeeps

[keen spruce]

is such bait

[oak tangle]

IM SITTING ON A 20 GALAKRONDS

[keen spruce]

I could just

go to the zoo

[bleak ivy]

Keys after week 1 is bait

[keen spruce]

and throw peanuts at the animals

[flint tusk]

Who wants to join for a 19 dawn.

[jade abyss]

Time to play magic

[cunning basin]

keys is bait

[flint tusk]

Lel JK it’s rise

[keen spruce]

but instead I trap myself in atal dazar for 30 minutes with 4 apes

[bleak ivy]

Were rogues we should be in battlegrounds now not dungeons

[keen spruce]

that pass as actual humans until it comes to not stepping on spiders

[oak tangle]

ew pvp

[keen spruce]

[flint tusk]

Not in our current bugged state we shouldn’t 😂

[cunning basin]

pvp 🤢

[bleak ivy]

Atal dazzar is just australia

[keen spruce]

I've been declined from

2 keys this patch

[cunning basin]

must be nice

[keen spruce]

gotta get ahead of the rat pack

[oak tangle]

yo how does sudden demise work on people

[flint tusk]

Can you stop paying for invites then you loser

[cunning basin]

i spent like 8 hours on monday of first week getting from 1950 to 2015

[sharp lichen]

dude

its good?

[bleak ivy]

Ausies enter atal dazzar they get a fresh air of home

[cunning basin]

YUGE

[oak tangle]

yo what is that slander

[sharp lichen]

yuge?

[bleak ivy]

Huge

[cunning basin]

its like huge

but yuge

[flint tusk]

You need to upgrade your gear fella.
Shadowcraft was so 2005 no wonder low damage

[quaint hull]

Has anyone unlocked trading up Crests from Vaskarn?

[keen spruce]

ye

[cunning basin]

SO TRUE BESTIE

challenge mode or BUST

[quaint hull]

@keen spruce How the fck can I do it? He sent me the letter to trade up drakes for Wyrms but I can't see the fkn option.

pls help

[oak tangle]

why is atal dazzar supposedly smelling like my house?

[flint tusk]

Or at the very least the belt for fun smoke affects 😁

[cunning basin]

actually im a filthy liar currently wearing mage tower armor

[bleak ivy]

Stop this gen Z shit

💀

[keen spruce]

if you're already capped on crests then the vendor won't sell it

[cunning basin]

i literally cant bro i memed on it and now its stuck in my vocabulary

the shit infects you

[flint tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/boomer-alert-speaker-alarm-gif-15124610

[quaint hull]

That's just fkn mean man. So the system is more for noobs that cant get aspects cuz they cant do a 16?

:C

[oak tangle]

you know you're old when boomer is not relevant to you generation but you still have back problems

[keen spruce]

this dude

[bleak ivy]

I'm 2005 myself aint a boomer yet haha

[keen spruce]

normally has more options at the start of the week

[flint tusk]

Boomer is a mindset now

[fervent sundial]

How painful is taking acrobatic strikes?

[flint tusk]

Not an age

[quaint hull]

im capped. on Wyrms so thats why. thank u

[keen spruce]

but I didn't use them cuz I wanted to see if it would go over the cap

[bleak ivy]

Shi alright

[keen spruce]

turns out it don't

[cunning basin]

incredibly, its a big loss

[keen spruce]

but it's nice if you want to just quickly convert drakes to wyrms at the start of the week

[fervent sundial]

How large?

[keen spruce]

without farming anything

[bleak ivy]

Rather have a boomer mindset than use theese weird words and shit xd

[flint tusk]

It’s ok. I’ve been a self proclaimed tech boomer since i was like 18 😂

[fervent sundial]

Give unto me the percent

[cunning basin]

the fact that trading up doesn't go over cap but trading down does is actual fucking apery by blizz

its a 6:1 ratio like

why

lmao

[fervent sundial]

hard agree

[proper forum]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[keen spruce]

73%

[flint tusk]

I actually forgot you could trade up

[fervent sundial]

Actually?

[keen spruce]

respectable C

not too low but not overachieving

[cunning basin]

nop its actually 80%

[keen spruce]

passing grade

won't throw up any red flags

[keen spruce]

u just said give a %

[fervent sundial]

I...

fair

[keen spruce]

i'm stalling to run sim

one sec

[fervent sundial]

I mean what's the rough loss of damage % for taking acrobatic strikes, I see in m+ it's roughly 4% which to me is worth it, but it doesn't have a number for st

[grim tree]

Well, a question, I'm going to craft the dolls, what statistics should I put in the raid game Assa and M+ Outlaw, what would you do?

Haste mastery?

[steel spire]

man im 2.6 as 2p2p

f

[keen spruce]

significant

and I believe it just gets worse

the better gear you get

[steel geyser]

That young and playing assassination.. Go enjoy outlaw while you can

[keen spruce]

it was pretty close before you get amir 4p tho

[oak tangle]

i accidentally got to 2.3.... still got throne of tides to do at all this week, and idk if i can be assed

[steel geyser]

[grand trail]

you can play sub if you wnna acro they got it in standart build

[keen spruce]

shoo

[grand trail]

as sub sim about the same as assa so if you dont have PI

[keen spruce]

get your dusty ass propoganda outta here

[grand trail]

idk

if i dont have PI i would propably play it

[bleak ivy]

wrist pains at a young age

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/tired-exhausted-bored-bordem-pmb-gif-23000919

[grand trail]

cant wait for smolderon next week

[keen spruce]

sub rogues rn

[fervent sundial]

I want to play assas in the like once a century occurence that it's good

[oak tangle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wsBkFVVSjNjYtLgW9E3Eer
@keen spruce i lost my BiS, also this random helm enchant is 2% apparently

[runic basin]

!fuu

[keen spruce]

why so much champion track

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[keen spruce]

go do 17s

[bleak ivy]

I cant seem to do well in AoE scenarios ? Takes too long to setup and by the time I am setup the pack is dead even on +20s

[oak tangle]

i dropped heroic in shoulder, chest and wrist slots

and i don't see rings

[keen spruce]

you have to kind of judge the burst of your group

[dusty phoenix]

wdym random helm enchant

[keen spruce]

like if I have a BM hunter and a DH

[mystic osprey]

I should be using ambust over mutilate when I can right?

or not

[dusty phoenix]

its the new helm enchant added this patch xd

[keen spruce]

my opener is gonna be different on the first pull of everbloom

[bleak ivy]

Most of my parties are DH and BM

[keen spruce]

than if I had like

a chicken and a priest or something

[oak tangle]

yeah but it has zero indication of wtf it does

[dusty phoenix]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=210494/incandescent-essence#comments

[keen spruce]

gar x3, rupture, mut, fan, rupture, fan, env, burst

[flint tusk]

made me curious now even though i'll avoid running acro unless it's actually on track for a dps gain.

[keen spruce]

your KB won't finish but throw it anyways

use dance to spread a few more bleeds and get CT up

then just slam a shiv at the end

[bleak ivy]

3x gar on what size pack?

[keen spruce]

and try to snipe damage from AP buffed sudden demise

[grand trail]

is there any special reason why you guys using CT after dm and not before,

[keen spruce]

3x gar anything >6

but like

[bleak ivy]

below 6?

what

[flint tusk]

6+ if spaming on same target
7+ if target swapping

[keen spruce]

these aren't rules

it's just like different strategies to get burst out a little quicker

like on the first giant pull of bloom

[bleak ivy]

alright

[keen spruce]

there's like what 13-20 mobs

[flint tusk]

the first bloom pull can be creamer or pain

[keen spruce]

i'm not gonna give 2 shits about bleeding all of those

[balmy condor]

okay sleep time yep

[flint tusk]

finally

[keen spruce]

3x garotes, maybe 2 ruptures

[flint tusk]

have a good one

[balmy condor]

cat has been slung

[keen spruce]

gn amigo

[bleak ivy]

gn

[gaunt moat]

Yeah, i don't think it does anything right now.
I had no new transmog options or noticed in changes, and i have all tier heroic except legs.

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

also the helm enchant is this

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=426339/igiras-cruel-nightmare

[flint tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-goodnight-gif-24818185

[oak tangle]

oh nice, and that is gettable in 4th raid week?

or do you get fragments from each difficulty

this guy is mad online

[hearty reef]

This is gonna go nuts with fated ring of diurna

[flint tusk]

anything that even indirectly benefits rogues makes people rage

[bleak ivy]

is mirror trinket aight?

[flint tusk]

need to compare it's ilvl against other stuff you have
https://bloodmallet.com/chart/rogue/assassination/trinkets/castingpatchwerk

[bleak ivy]

I dont have any of the ones above it

so ig its best I got

[flint tusk]

it's alright for our onuse. but not great

[half moss]

on average, anyone have a ballpark number on how much damage increase is from 2 to 4 piece

[oak tangle]

number is irrelevant, % is useful, and idk

best bet is to do a gear compare on yourself

[half moss]

percent is what i meant by number

[pine dew]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[half moss]

true dat

[steel geyser]

Do we know how we will get the new helm enchant

[strange python]

bout 6.7%

[oak tangle]

it's a quest in raid, look in your log for "the power of dreams"

[sage cargo]

Guys, I'm considering a race change (starting to hate playing tauren). If I play both outlaw and sin, occassionally sub if necessary, what would you do?

[oak tangle]

under amirdrassil tab

[oak tangle]

get an atomix rearranger toy, cheaper

[sage cargo]

It has a REALLY long CD

[steel geyser]

Oh sweet, this quest is useful

[strange python]

I'd go undead because it's awesome (f the numbers)

probably female belf for the animations / mogs

or orc if i cared about #'s

[oak tangle]

yo what's this alliance hate

[strange python]

lol he's coming from tauren so i just assume he is only considering horde

if i was an alliance, i'd be human

[oak tangle]

what other regions are alliance dominated, other than oce

[strange python]

I feel like NA is too when I enable warmode, anyway

[steel spire]

if alliance def nelf for the free vanish

on trash

[strange python]

That's a good point - i had a nelf warrior though, and i couldn't stand looking at it

they're like skinny taurens, in size

feel slow

[drowsy hollow]

I love my void elf rogue

[strange python]

maybe female nelf, i dunno

[bleak ivy]

theres only one good reason to roll a void elf

[drowsy hollow]

So, I don't remember kingsbane feeling this strong in legion, but it's nice having a super strong 60s CD.

[oak tangle]

nelf life

[bleak ivy]

im a belf

fk alliancce

zug zug

[drowsy hollow]

I like velf on sub cause of the shadowblade fantasy a lot.

[oak tangle]

tbh i always atomic rearrangei nto a vulpera tho

[bleak ivy]

as long as its an elf

[bleak ivy]

I try to get pandaren

bis rogue race

[drowsy hollow]

I'd be hard pressed to not consider race changing to Dracthyr if unlocked but I'd miss the void elf heritage set.

[celest marlin]

Ok so this Everbloom trinekt, seems like 2big of a risk, am i wrong?

[bleak ivy]

?

[fallen knoll]

Wdym risk

[celest marlin]

avoiding the balls for 8-9 secs

[urban trench]

huh

[celest marlin]

seems like fuckedup situation

[bleak ivy]

youu dont have to avoid them

bruh

[strange python]

i mean just cast it and take like 3 steps left (or right), if you dont wanna think about it

[urban trench]

https://wago.io/4Q2L1LNd5

here if u need it

[steel geyser]

I'm a branch hater but you'll get used to it very fast

[celest marlin]

but if you dont avoid them it will last 10 secs total with the 5k mastery biff

[bleak ivy]

you take 2 orbs right away and kite the other one

I think

not kite just take it later

[strange python]

Literally, just go to the dummies (use the aoe ones cause there's no wall there). And just cast it, and step like 4 steps right - and track the buff through your kingsbane, watch what happens.

the 3rd orb gets to you with like 8 sec left (right when you shiv)

[bleak ivy]

and there's no ''risk'' u get alot of mastery evenn if u fuck up lol

[strange python]

I mean there's gonna be walls and stuff on some m+ bosses that mess it up, but who cares, just do that same movement and never think about it again

[oak tangle]

am i needed?

[urban trench]

HAH

what is this

i love it

Y ES

you are needed

bobo

[strange python]

[steel geyser]

This is cursed

[bleak ivy]

rope angle

[celest marlin]

Also, is Dawn daggers x2 a must or can i use the hc raid dagger Criel Dreamcarver?

[solid mica]

do we use CT on single target if talented or na

[urban trench]

just farm it

¨...

[cunning basin]

if you're going for hof its a must

if you're not then i woulldn't worry about giga farming it

its like 1%ish dps increase per dagger iirc

[strange python]

I mean you dont NEED it for hof either so

[cunning basin]

no but thats the kinda thing that people who grind hof do

they just farm till they have their bis

[urban trench]

JUST. FARM. IT.

[strange python]

I mean...they dont NEED it. That said, did JPC even farm branch?

[royal lantern]

when im home from work,run #45 starts

like, its incredible

im not even that annoyed anymore

its just funny now

[cunning thunder]

Just a friendly word to all you dagger farmers out there, i'm 40 runs in, the last 8 ive not even had any drops. You got this. It will Happen. Stay strong kings.

[cunning basin]

none of the rwf rogues farmed it

they prio'd the dagger

[strange python]

I ran everbloom 27 times, and saw 6 of them drop so - the drop rate isn't even bad (from my anecdotal experience)

[cunning basin]

i got branch first run

[oak tangle]

my experience is the same

[cunning basin]

its only champ but like

shrug

good enough for now

[urban trench]

What do you mean? They all farmed it, noone got it

[steel geyser]

loot table of everbloom is small

[cunning basin]

dagger more important

[steel geyser]

loot table of DOTI is huge

[celest marlin]

i saw the trinekt on 1st run, hunter took it 😄

[oak tangle]

but it's heavily inflated by it being in almost all dps specs loot pools, vs a dagger that is only in rogues

[cunning basin]

i mean yeah they all did m+

[urban trench]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3JeTxY3qJ8X56ZxfJuAHdG

JUST. FARM. IT. GET. STRONG.

[strange python]

How can a miniscule percentage from one place be more important than a miniscule percentage from another place? lol

[cunning basin]

483 dagger to upgrade a 470 > 483 branch to upgrade a 476

[strange python]

Easier to get, sure

[cunning basin]

?

dagger is literally just a bigger increase for me

so its more important for me

[urban trench]

Tell 'em

King

know your worth

[cunning basin]

like there is context to what i said, don't just quote what i said and assume that i meant dagger always more important

[urban trench]

YEP

TELL 'EM KING

[cunning basin]

i have a 470 offhand and a 476 branch so for me, a 483 dagger is a bigger upgrade

[urban trench]

https://tenor.com/view/sassy-girl-who-are-you-really-gif-14741417

[cunning basin]

bro chill

weird and cringe behavior

tone it down

[fallen forge]

YEAH TELL EM KING

[weak cypress]

guys

[fallen knoll]

Weird chat hours

[weak cypress]

do catalystic signet sims right?

[urban trench]

it sims bad for ne

[weak cypress]

its wierd

[urban trench]

me

Strong in +5 min fights tho

[weak cypress]

hmm

[urban trench]

Otherwise sandglass is just fine

[spring geyser]

Hello does anyone know why am i having energy issues trying to re-apply my envenom buff? even trying at the very last second? This is the rotation that I'm following right now with the dummy but after the green section i'm having resource issues trying to maintain the envenom buff

[grim jay]

Because the spec is designed that way

You will inevitably have to pool

[royal lantern]

i mean, maintenance means excatly that

maintain until you cant

then pool and start again

[flint tusk]

Representing 🫡

[spring geyser]

[manic rock]

lol #7 says to pool so you can reapply

[royal lantern]

alpacas are bis mounts

[supple snow]

Also I think you should do 4+ CP and not 5

[royal lantern]

it doesnt really matter tbh

[spring geyser]

Mhm but says if you drop envenom buff try to pool energy i thought you could maintain it until the next 1 min burst

[supple snow]

Ah. Thanks

[spring geyser]

[royal lantern]

with luck you can

[spring geyser]

thank you very much everyone ❤️

[royal lantern]

but like, yeha

not really, you will run dry at some point

[manic rock]

It looks like the list is covering the burst

[royal lantern]

or envenom runs out cus you re-apply bleeds

[sweet dawn]

How long do you guys find yourself pooling for when you can't chain envenoms? It feels like 10+ seconds sometimes for me

[spring geyser]

mhm mhm just the first opener

[manic rock]

You're running out of energy before your burst is over?

[flint tusk]

You can get super smooth by hitting a pandemic envenom with a 6cp envenom gives you enough time to pump a full rupture and get cp back for another envenom before it drops. But imo that is probably a bit extra trying to force that.

[supple snow]

Usually around when I should reapply rupture

[flint tusk]

i'm usually a zulian tigar slave. but i found the hat funny. so deserved a pic.

[urban trench]

it matters

[oak tangle]

5 is right at that point in the opener, as it stops envenom dropping off before you can refresh it, but in general outside the dm case or refreshing rupture 4 is fine

[quaint hull]

Question, do we pool when the envenom chain ends or when we drop below 50 percent energy?

[oak tangle]

when it ends

[quaint hull]

❤️ ty

[oak tangle]

i mean, we pool always outside kb window, but i gather that's not what you meant XD

[flint tusk]

Yeh you're effectively pooling always outside of kingsbane

kingsbane you slam as many abilities builders and envenoms as you can for poison procs
then you rotate to a slow burn envenom only when buff about to run out then instantly build to 4+ combo points again before hitting envenom again before it falls off.

I find you'll get to a point where you need to speed them up a bit to avoid energy cap but that generally is very close to next kingsbane window

[oak tangle]

the logic for all of it can be explained by, if you never cap on energy or generate cp's above 6, you cannot miss casts of envenoms

[royal lantern]

...huh

difference bettwen 4 and 5 is absolutely minimal lol

[oak tangle]

there was nuance to why it was a 5cp envenom though, where it does matter to use 5

[flint tusk]

Probably purely in the situation of rupture refresh

[oak tangle]

not the end of the world, but 4 before dm breaks the envenom chain

[flint tusk]

but playing around it is sorta meh

[supple snow]

This is such good information

Thanks

[warm parcel]

No?

[gaunt moat]

you know about the envenom bug?

[warm parcel]

4cp is 5s env

Kb is in 4 globals

[oak tangle]

since when is a 4 cp envenom 5s

[warm parcel]

Is it not 1+1*cp

[gaunt moat]

a bug

anything below 5CP envenom lasts 5s

[warm parcel]

[grim jay]

[manic rock]

4cp is 4s

[flint tusk]

huh? i've not experienced that at all

[oak tangle]

idk that i encounter this bug

[gaunt moat]

go ahead, test on dummy 🙂

[warm parcel]

Idno I never missed with 4

[flint tusk]

you sure you're not benefitting from pandemic?

[gaunt moat]

yes

[flint tusk]

hmm. i'll have to look at this later. i honestly never noticed

[oak tangle]

tested on dummy, 1 cp envenom was 1s

[quiet oar]

Thats not real

[grim jay]

Im pretty sure my env is shorter on lower cp

[quiet oar]

Ye it is im on dummy

[royal lantern]

huh?

the envenom chain is draining Energy, idk how you hit cap when kb is about too come back

like, you still spend during it, you just try too spend slower until you cant at all anymore

[radiant snow]

what is this

[gaunt moat]

hmm, test 3 and 4

[royal lantern]

or we mean the same thing and im stupid

[oak tangle]

3s

[quiet oar]

I did

[gaunt moat]

i'll go test, maybe it was fixed

[grim jay]

Toxic blade

[gaunt moat]

it was still happening 4 days ago

[steel ridge]

might have been fixed already

[oak tangle]

didn't accidentally take the envenom duration talent?

[gaunt moat]

no. it was a bug.

confirmed bug.

[oak tangle]

hmm, i have never seen it

[flint tusk]

honestly i haven't got a clue. but that's what's happening for me currently.
i always find i gain energy unless my maintenance of envenom isn't long enough to hit an end point and i'm just getting ungodly luck with dashing and windfury

[gaunt moat]

testing right now

[dark crag]

Are aug hooks bugged for assa and if yes how much?

[gaunt moat]

it was not fixed.

[haughty flicker]

afaik its just caustic not being attributed properly

[gaunt moat]

and it lasts 5s even with 1CP

[quiet oar]

Wait it counts down

but stays longer

[gaunt moat]

look at your buffs.

[quiet oar]

It doesnt fade away

i see

[gaunt moat]

yap. that's the bug

[quiet oar]

I thought the duration is 5 seconds

and it counts down

[royal lantern]

tbf, you mean raid or m+?

in raids with raid build + wft etc.... yeha, its sometimes the same, energy is rarely a problem and sometimes you even cap out when you get a couple blindside chainprocs

but in m+ you often dry out some time after your kb windows

[oak tangle]

mine does fade away

[gaunt moat]

envenom can never last less than 5s, no matter how many CPs used

[flint tusk]

i wonder does is it purely visual or does the poison application amp also last.

[gaunt moat]

look at your buffs. it's still there.

[quiet oar]

I see. Sorry jsut looked at the seconds

[gaunt moat]

you still gain the benefit

afaik

[cunning thunder]

Do you guys tend to run Spatter and Indiscriminate Carnage on Tyran weeks or do you send the full crimson tempest M+ build?

[warm parcel]

Quickly looking at my logs

Env explosion every time at 12s

[flint tusk]

This is in raid.

Ahh that'll be it blindside that makes sense now.
i've mentally had to block that exists xD i even turned the aura off so i don't know when it's procced so i stopped pressing my old keybind xD

[gaunt moat]

i can test on dummy to see if 4p set triggers when it should not. give me a minute

[oak tangle]

i was looking before and it did fade, it didn't the last time i tried now though

[gaunt moat]

it did trigger. so the benefit is still there.

[manic rock]

Yeah, just tested. Apologies for the doubt

[gaunt moat]

I first noticed it when the WA i made told me i had 100% envenom coverage when i knew i shouldn't

LE had reported it since PTR

it was apperantly fixed in PTR

but then broke again on live, or the fix didn't make it into live.

[grim jay]

I mean it still doesnt change the spending rules ig.

[flint tusk]

i assume the damage isn't bugged per combo point o.o

saying that.
didn't OLD envenom used to give a fixed buff duration

like as in OLD OLD envenom

[gaunt moat]

it's a pretty inconsequential bug

[grim jay]

So it doesnt have any direct impact on gameplay was what I meant

[flint tusk]

Ye, well until we end up some degen 1cp spam build xD

[oak tangle]

we'd be finishing on 1 cp then

[true basalt]

Do we go over the first DR of mastery?

[urban trench]

I meant it matters if you decide to press Mutilate again when on 4cp outside of your burst windows, risk of overcapping can greatly affect your energy management

[oak tangle]

i mean it technically means that if alot of people are used to 4 cp before dm when the bug is fixed they will drop envenom buff at the start of their kb window

[dark crag]

Are augs trolling not buffing the assa rogue?

[oak tangle]

trolling themselves tbh

[flint tusk]

same as them not knowing when to do the buffs

or a priest who just slams PI regardless even though you've got a macro that pings them for it when you need it.

[delicate trench]

could you share it

[flint tusk]

I mean it's just a /w {Name} "give me PI you dirty scum"
on my deathmark

[sharp trellis]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wqZudTygGqbRGa6zdSLkPL Why does my blue trinket sims higher ? is it normal ? MM+ player

[oak tangle]

double on use sim problems

[flint tusk]

double on use likely as you lock one to a longer cooldown. my assumption atleast

it always prefers one over the other in sims

[sharp trellis]

So is it a sim problems ?or it's not optimum

[oak tangle]

i do not know enough to say

[vestal cliff]

How would you rate our m+ dmg against outlaw?

[limber lion]

That's a sim error, the sim uses the damage active trinket first meaning that it uses Branch at 20s which is obviously not what you would want to do

Gonna need to fix that to make sure branch gets used first

[fleet turtle]

!dagues

[oak tangle]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842817103354658817/1154475731108249700/image.png

[safe zodiac]

Question, suppose we are gonna do an openner on a dungeon boss, pop death mark, garrote, rupture kingsbane bla bal

[fleet turtle]

thx lol

[safe zodiac]

Do i apply crimson tempest?

On single target

[wanton vine]

no

[oak tangle]

wot in darnation is that opener

[dreamy hull]

what's the debuff applied by caustic spatter called?

[sharp trellis]

ok thank you

[oak tangle]

caustic spatter

[safe zodiac]

Im just making an example

[oak tangle]

no CT on ST

[safe zodiac]

So no crimson tempest and spend only on envenom while other dots are hitting?

[oak tangle]

yup

[dreamy hull]

ty, some issue with plater made me think it had some other name

[tough gorge]

Save 2 pts from CT and go double vicious venoms when you have 4 pc. Whats the drop off? Dont have 4 pc yet.

[steel ridge]

weird take

[safe zodiac]

Also, what is the ideal st openner? I just pop death mark and do all dots then

[steel ridge]

how about reading a guide first and ask questions later

[strange python]

[steel ridge]

whispyr spends a lot of hours to write those guides, that no one likes to read

[strange python]

no one

[manic rock]

Hey! I read it!

[strange python]

I studied it

[oak tangle]

garrote from stealth -> ambush -> rupture -> mut once -> snd -> mutilate to 4+ cp - > envenom -> dm - > shiv -> dance + kb -> garrote

[strange python]

when you slicin bruh

[oak tangle]

forgot snd

[strange python]

oh

[steel ridge]

only 99 parses for you, good sir

[manic rock]

Oh def not that

I'm a solid blue

[safe zodiac]

Thank you

[keen reef]

Are you guys using a WA for branch trinket ?

[strange python]

if memz slices and dices, he gets 100's, so he leaves that one out (to give the rest of us a chance)

[oak tangle]

i am use the wiggle around a bit and hope for the best

[strange python]

hell no

Once I saw how easy that thing was to mini-game, i never thought about it again

[keen reef]

Ok Never tried i just collect it

So we Go 1/1/4 Right ?

[oak tangle]

but this is imo optimal

[strange python]

use the aoe dummies - so there's not a wall blockin your c

[thorny glade]

any rogues want to help a noob out

[steel ridge]

what quantum mechanics make it possible to reach 2 orbs at the same time anyway

[steel spire]

yall also hit up 15s and under for Not right

[strange python]

I take like 3-5 steps to the right - when that third one hits me, it just hits me (it's usually at about 8 sec left in kingsbane)

[cunning thunder]

wdym you just hit the button and pray

[strange python]

I farmed everbloom on 13 or under so no bursting, personally

[neat plank]

you guys actually collect branch orbs? lol I just wait for them

[cunning thunder]

let the orbs come to me I aint searching for them theres enough orb mechanics in this raid tier already

[oak tangle]

if you wait for them your last tick aint gonna have mastery buff

[strange python]

also, y ou see EVERYONE ELSE's ORBS too

[oak tangle]

you gotta do some jiggle jiggle

[keen reef]

So you just collect 2 orbs and Wait for 3 to Hit you by urself?

[strange python]

This isn't true

[oak tangle]

fr?

[strange python]

yeah i just take like 3 steps left or right

the third always hits me when i'm shiving (8 sec left)

[sweet dawn]

You get a ranged player to follow 1 orb, pick one up and shadowstep to him

[oak tangle]

no i mean if you press it and stand still, do they take more than 5 seconds to get to you?

[sweet dawn]

(don't actually do this)

[strange python]

oh yeah you'll just run out BEFORE the last tick

they'll hit sooner if you just stand still

[oak tangle]

i mean i guess if you bind the trink to dance it's fine

[strange python]

I mean no doubt just moving isn't optimal - because you do have a longer time period where you have 1 stack and not 2 - but i can't care enough...as long as those last 8 sec or so have 3 stacks, i was happy

No, you should bind it to DM

[oak tangle]

yeah but we're talking about the stand still meta

[strange python]

oh yeah i dunno who's standing still

[oak tangle]

i just tested now, it looks like they took 6 seconds to get to me, we're all good

[strange python]

Is that just not even moving?

I know that ST dummy's wall messes it up

or at least i think

i think sometimes the pillar oes too by the aoe ones

[oak tangle]

they spawn diagonal on the front, so if you face the training pillar they're fine. and yeah perfectly still

[surreal citrus]

does kb snapshot stat buffs from trinkets or do they ideally have to be active for the duration of kb

[royal lantern]

99% in wow are dynamic

nightstalker is 1 of the 2-3 things that cringeshot

[kind forge]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842817103354658817/1154475731108249700/image.png

[spice spire]

Talk ur shit king

[kind forge]

hmm devastating dream gives me 10% ms

[oak tangle]

man just replied to a bot

[royal lantern]

huh

[fallow glacier]

Anybody got a profile or know how to glow on pandemic on plater?

[oak tangle]

where's chatgpt to reply back

[surreal citrus]

going to ask chatgpt what my rotation is

[spice spire]

Tell that fraud nightstalker what’s what

[royal lantern]

not my fault that snapshotting is cringe man

[spice spire]

I disagree in small doses

[oak tangle]

it's not any more cringe than improved garrote

[spice spire]

I think if you had to extensively think about snapshotting

It would be cringe

[royal lantern]

idk, i hate it because it "breaks" the rules so much

if that makes sense

everything is dynamic except for these 2-3 things, for them its not

[surreal citrus]

if people are moving 2-3 steps to the left for their orbs to come to them how many steps do I take on a short race

[primal terrace]

hmm

5 sounds about right

[oak tangle]

if they are sashay'ing left, you shimmy right

[primal terrace]

boogie down

[edgy trellis]

how does utilitarian feel on tyraniccal boss ?

[tepid idol]

Pot in opener still alongside deathmark or right away ?

[lone lantern]

with dm

[slate crown]

Don’t let Avih push you away from using tools that may be helpful.

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[slate crown]

My profile has a branch aura which seems to help people

[strange python]

I didn't make a recomendation. He asked if we were using one, I gave him an answer.

[slate crown]

[oak tangle]

can you some how make my masterpiece into a weak aura

[slate crown]

Wdym how so

You can make weakauras that show image files on screen if that’s what ur asking

[strange python]

lol his graphic

[slim hamlet]

Just fill the whole screen with this

Can't fuck up the orbs if u can't see them

[slate crown]

Oh I know about the masterpiece

[oak tangle]

i'm imagining having some extra textures on top, that light up the orbs as you grab them, with a progress bar lined up on the 7 sec text for when the last one will arrive

[slate crown]

Well can’t really track which orb is picked up

[rocky ruin]

Can someone else picked up your orbs?

Just wondering

[primal terrace]

nope

[oak tangle]

i wish this was a thing

[primal terrace]

stacking 20 orbs

on an assa burst

boss dies from execute

:DD

[slim hamlet]

Now we talking real external spec

[cosmic socket]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[strange python]

all of a sudden, the 140,000 mastery sim - becomes an actual thing.

[primal terrace]

hahah 😄

[strange python]

"Everyone stack on the rogue, cast your branch, then run out"

[slim hamlet]

the 1.8 mil sim?

[oak tangle]

i tihnk the strat would be "stack on star and use trinkets in...321" then rogue runs a loop

[slim hamlet]

Nah u would need priests dragging us around to them

cba running myself

[strange python]

this one

[oak tangle]

that's 3 priests, or more commonly known as 9 orbs

you wont get

[slim hamlet]

u would just need them to run our and do it

The whole raid is priests for PI anyways

[oak tangle]

but their orbs chase them

no bueno

[strange python]

we can dream

[slim hamlet]

They just gotta go fast enough

Otherwise /kick

[oak tangle]

oh no i got it

lemme paint htis up

[strange python]

god i need to get both doti's on 16 today...have the one on 15