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Afenar
don't be adding commands to my channel boy
I only added one

!whispyr
!whispyr
Happy thanksgiving to freedom people 
Let me see the next two tabs, that one looks like it is set up for tracking
how's this dmg breakdown for a +16 murozond rise ? 2p only 459 ilvl
AP build
gathering balls in m+ makes me feel good
branch goated
i just wish i managed to get fat kbs off in aoe
gather these balls bud 
DONE.
having a moderate amount of fun in 20s
Anyone here knows about macros?
prolly crit/vers
kk thx
!whispyr
Me omw to gooning
perks of having all 4 stats being good for assassination, one or two pieces aren't gonna make or break anything

lions vs packers?
Lily, Rigby, and the new puppy Kako
Seems good to me for a tyran key
lions can secure a playoff spot on thanksgiving
and you're talking to me about dogs

Nice thanks. What were the pointers that it was good ?
i suppose the garrote and rupture damage ?
never knew you liked 'merican football
the lions don't exactly give someone a reason to be excited about murican foozeball
This year they do
but Tswift does according to the brand new kansas city fans
Dan Campbell big locker room guy
It just looks like a normal breakdown from what I have seen. Usually kb itself would be lower and sanguine blades a little higher, but considering it's a tyranical key and a Rise it makes sense that KB does more
Noted. Thank you ^^
i heard it is enough to just gar, gar, gar on one target when opening on big enough packs because it gets spread intelligently. Is that true or should i still do it on different mobs?
Try enabling aura frame 2 on the first snip
If that doesn't change anything try changing the 2nd snip to manual tracking and individually add garrote/rupture to be tracked.
Its weird that you aren't seeing anything at all though rn. Do you see the smart aura for deathmark/kingsbane that you have enabled?
ashes better?
wtf never heard of that
is that guy correct ?
no i dont see shit
That would be fine up to 7 targets, but you could do 6 targets in 2 garrotes, or 9 in 3, if you are more intentional. It isnt ideal but...it does smart cast
does rupture work the same way ?
ye
yeah just an example of targets, i know you do different amounts of garrots, just to make sure if that "practice" of just blasting it in one target is something you guys do here or if it is bullshit
thank you
puzzle box with 2sec cast one love 😉
Man I dont miss that and the grieftorcxh
You people are animals
i tried manual nothing works
its time for a ticket i guess haha
AFTER 25 RUNS, GOT MY FIRST NICK OF TIME (476 champion)
kek
This is the demo chat of rogues
This is a chat of demo rogues
Go again for hero
i will, in easier weeks, bursting is PITA with clueless players
farming +9 to +13
i'm so madge about farming fall. there is like no oce keys going. makes it impossible to find a run where i'm not 200ms
and to top it off, i was in a 16 where the healing was ripping fat 30k hps
man. blows my mind that people can act like a bunch of kids in a 19 to the point they just leave. this is why i never run my key in pugs. idk how these ppl get the score they get playing and acting like that
i feel you mate
during our opener, when should i be using my on use trinkets?
on use with DM
I can't even get into a 20 yet my arbitrary 2200 means i'm "bad"
i macrod my twig with deathmark!
im 2100 cause i've neglected the 3 last ones i havent done this week once i hit 2k for falls
yah I'm 2400 and I get declined into 16's so...
i honestly HATE m+, i just do it because 1) i got the 2k rating token, 2) BiS gear like weapons or trinkets
Most on use are used with Deathmark. However optimal use of Ashes specifically is 3 seconds into kingsbane
Special stick
Imagine having to always pug because you live in Japan 😢
ty thats what was looking for
I have resto in party, so my life has become easier since I know her 🙂
we ran a 19 the other night and blight was just toxic. still no second dagger
how big is the difference?
the only problem - she is living with me))))
yeah at this point i don't want to pug. i want a steady group. at least then you can still complete and go next
vs randoms just outing and depleting your key
pugs ftw, I love having different people all the time, toxicity is overstated
i've given up on 17's and above, too few around. unless a guildie lucks into the key. it's still insane that there is basically no difference betwee a 9 and a 16 if not doing 17+
i had pugs that couldn't even figure out a 15 throne
like
.....stack behind boss
aoe ads
then i'm energy starved because i'm the only one FoK
mine plays hunter, so i get declined faster
i've got a 19 EB saved for when my tank friend can get on, that's gonna be fun
i just got my 19 eb depleted to an 18
I've got that one too, no one signs up for it
Don’t say that I’m there too
omg my petition to the governer worked, I got into 16 it's a miracle
i'll just try to round out my board best i can, boost my arbitrary number to make it more pink, and F'off
maybe i should become inconsiderate and apply for any and all falls, and just troll with my ping, whilst doing the best i can
I think I'm losing out to ilevel now since I don't raid
i'm 468 w/ 2pc
this is the way
oh yeah that too, my raid nights are sunday / monday so im still only 463
just frustrating
Why not 480 with 4p and 3000 rating? you need that for 16s duh
I thought it was a picture
From the pin, is the Hybrid 5tar the go to for m+?
imagine having a push team
I’m only 2850
I'm a big fan of the AP shock build
change my name to NotanactualSkadooshbag
Shmeeps has Evo who just ebon might pre science pre science
thanks now I'm gonna get a DM from quake

my time is so caught up in nick of time's i havent even looked for where i need to go for bis items. (other than EB)
See you’re safe
a 20
never seen it
and you can't make me
16.1 too much io, inefficient
these nerds keep trying to +2 stuff man

I'm just trying to fill vault
so I can afk all weekend
meanwhile shmeeps out here trying to be jpc

no no
that makes me click the prompt on the npc twice vs just once
u +2
Monday gotta spam 4 more 18s for a full vault
that's too many clicks
And then slam 17 falls until my eyes bleed
god speed my friend
I get 2nd nick from vault or I never get it at all

after 35 runs
I'm done
lmao
yeah. RL wants us to have timed 20s for each key. Only runs with certain ppl and makes other ppl pug and expects same results
also requiring 8 20s in actual cancer
i'll just pug my way to an early grave
pug god 
pug lord
that's some susge requirements
30 aspects to upgrade the item you get is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things
does he want you to roll into raid with brez bracers and ap shock build?
what rotational macros do you kinds find useful? since openers are pretty scriped with things like deathmark shiv SD kingsbane. do you guys have any macros?
meh i'll still need them for a bit.
dance and kb together. dm and trinks
sorry our resident duck is a little unhinged
Whats the ToT macro for Tanks without Focusing them
as a duck i can relate
am i just a lone wolf in macroing garrote to vanish?
idk. sin slapping. i'm just trying to gear tf out and smoke everyone because one of the few ppl on roster that didn't get CE from Sark so being a toxic pug lord and slapping the meter all the way to CE this tier so I can rethink where I want to live
Arterial build is fine in tyra aswell right?
You’re getting 2
Anyway to macro ToT to a skill?
fuck
My nick is champion 😭
Thank you!
@gusty mirage you don’t need help because you are strong and capable
@spice spire I'm exposing whatever you DM'd me
if you just ignore them you can't get any more cause he only said 2
One of them is for Easter 
Yeah
Bro?
homemade oxi gravy
@spice spire bro?
I literally have an oxipasta note
I know you do
you exist to make me suffer
This is just saved on my phone
This might be even worse
From 2022
Im sorry you ended up with that kind of person in your DMs oxi
i just did craft slimy boots by mistake is there a big difference between toxic ?
F
How do you guys play Vol'kaal in AD? Wait with cd's until all totems are down ye?
just chill and hope your team mates check their boss frames
Do one with your tank and chill with cds
usually by screaming because the tank never kicks the cast
aight ty
but yeah, either blast KB into the totem
i'm 99% sure the boss always leaps to my totem
or hope your group has a working brain and knows not to explode their totem while the other 2 are working on theirs
Cuz yeah, I guess in theory you could send KB and hold DM for 2nd KB on boss
that's a question of pug vs comms i guess
speaking of pugs, i'ma macro /s can't stop, won't stop, into my cloak
slimy does aoe or single burst ?
Both single
sometimes at 4 stacks of bursting I keep killing and stacking it because I can cloak, and then I grin when others die
Anytime I KB into the totem I find the shit ST player who burnt CDs on the trash pack before
only 4?
so the only diff slimy gives versa and reduce haste, nothing more than that
"it was sudden demise guys i stopped dps i promise"
do we macro mirror with dm or better used separate cuz of the 3m cd?
hey i was told there is a haste threshold for assa is that correct?
just join grps with full immunitys and you can ignore bursting xD
Sass me again and ur next
slimy is actually useful in aoe
whereas toxic thorns is strictly ST
Does toxic thorn cleave with spatter?
so like it's kinda whatever, the haste loss is the only reason we don't play it (plus it's vers/mastery statted)
haven’t thought about that
Slimy does aoe? 😮
spatter is probably whitelisted
Makes sense
so why ppl build toxic thorn for single in m+ when we need the aoe burst, it doesnt make sense
toxic thorns has saved my ass many times when the healer dies. couple that with 25% leech under 50% and we bing chilling
When others die bcs they had no cloak sounds like a big skill issue
Thornsj is nature not poison
Because losing haste makes us sad

cause sparks are limited and toxic thorn is much much better in raid
and poison is what, not nature?
make sense

What im sayin bruh
It is but it isn’t
if it makes you feel better, it took 2 tiers for envenom to work with zoldyck
i'm still curious how we are managing to get the poisons off our daggers and into the enemies' stomachs
[Dragon-Tempered Blades] talent we get 30% application procs in all or in the 3rd and 4rd poisons ?
I actually laughed when i read the changes for that
Most nature dmg in our kit counts as "poison". Kb and envenom count
Yeah hence why i assumed it might
All
but we aint cool enough
Huh
Seriously
Blizzard and sabotaging their own IPs
idk they made a lot of moneys last year
overwatch 2 anyone
By killing 3 of their own ips or something

It’s phrased that way so it doesn’t interact with external nature damage increase? It’s dumb
Cause it could say nature and be fine
rip starcraft and hots tho
OW, HotS, Diablo to a degree
Tho I guess HotS and SC2 have been dead
I loved hots 😦
nah diablo is banging now
I did too 😦
@gusty mirage do u think later on in the patch ppl will switch back to slimy for toxic thorn ?
New season good?
no
^
Sims worse
probably stick with toxic thorn, they nerfed embellishments to the point where it's not even worth crafting something else unless you absolutely have nothing else to craft
So later in the patch doesn’t make it sim better
but if sub 2pc ever gets fixed
And they also costs a lot of crests, so in plenty of cases not even worth crafting at all
you'll see more slimy boys
i dont know how to sim im a boomer i only know how to dpsssssssssssssss
you shouldn't macro deathmark with branch right?
It is fixed
you should macro it
then why does the demo 4pc pull entire wings in waycrest still?

If you mean the ninja pulling stuff
but if you do, the buff expires before kingsbane last tick
Skill issue of pinging a class dev i guess 
they watched BFA MDI and it's a throwback
their TCers could handle it
oh wait

You gotta kite the last orb my man

mfers can't even handle their own APL
me and no sleep

you + being cute
Oxi's at it again ohno
Ayyy boomers the dps!
what type of roll?
hawaiian roll
i could really use a cinnamon roll ngl
the bis roll
Cinnamon rolls are a breakfast
tell us you're not american without telling us you're not american

they're called prawns, not shrimp
(i dont eat breakfast)
quest released a new cookies and cream protein bar
unless coffee counts
usually dont eat anything until like 10-11 ish
Coffee makes it so you dont feel hunger
my nutritionist tries to get me to eat breakfast everyday, but i ignore her until i have had my coffee
As someone who starts day with coffee I can confirm that
You people have people tell you what to eat?
coffee is probably the only reason I haven't purposefully driven into oncoming traffic yet
I just forget meals personally
yeh my gf
yeah, I even get stupid suggestions like "make overnight oats for a quick breakfast"
"Do I really need to sit and eat for 10s??"
not drinking coffee is the only reason my morning workgroup teacher hasnt seen me in 3 months
I love coffee
müsli and yoghurt as brekky is quick and p good and goes with coffee
2-3 cups a day and I’m alright
no need to soak oats?
i dont function until ive had my morning coffee
2-3?
remove cups
and make it liters xD
you drink straight from the pot?
Cups like the travel things, not the unit of measurement
what
ive got a big ass thermocup
i use the same coffee mug like a week before i wash it
the slime and grime add flavour
fyfaan
I did that until I saw how moldy coffee can get
tru
if you drink coffee like a heroin addict, the mug/cup never stays dry long enough for it to be an issue
And the bacteria improves your immune system I guess .. 🦠
just need to swing that mug for the last sip so its clean
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coffee culture is so foreign to me
i drink like 2 litres every day
@white lance hey devlin I know this is the wrong channel, but how does combo points work for your WA for sub?
hi devlin
I love your stuff btw
love your stuff btw 
:3c
@earnest remnant do you think we can get to fyrakk before dec 8th
we loving it up in here 
no idea
we just got larry, smoldy, and tswift to prog through
cause nymue for sure dies this week
we should get to smoldy soonTM
tswift is a one shot you got this
larry should die fairly quick this week
yea I was watching some vods
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seems easy enough
I'm worried smolderon is gonna be a big problem for us
and they're gonna make me play sub

sub is fine on that fight tho
and I don't want to touch sub until dust is dead
How about you smolderon deez nuts
brother
oof
he fluffed it
Bro I know it
yes I'm sure randoms on the internet
put oxi in all of those
you had nothing to do with them
how many people are in this server
128244
We have a bot that attempts to filter those
a bot-filtering bot?
do you use dance to refresh bleed or is it more for kingsbane burst?
Kb
KB burst but that too is a potential use ya know
feel bad losing bleeds tho esp in m+
that means on average, 1 in 61500 people are in this discord. assuming average city size of 2 million people, there is 32.5 people in your city in this discord.
but kb is for envenom so a rupture hurts kinda r?
i think refreshing rupture with it is probably much lower down in the list than the benefit to refreshing a garrote - especially one that is gonna hit 3 targets.
oh
Guys which phial do u use
when you put it that way
like that's gonna come down to math
tepid vers or i dont wanna be right
Crit or tepid vers
I'm kind of a bot
unless you mean actual bots
Same
I'm sorry, I don't understand the statement. Can you repeat that?

now the 32 people i get, who are the 0.5 people in my city
ugh sorry guys i'm going delerious farming everbloom
like i tell the wife, the trinket isn't gonna manfiest itself
Mythic dungeon aoe. Do we need to tab target single garrote and rupture mobs? Or do we just wait till shadow dance kingsbane window to reapply them and then spam fok/envenom garrote and rupture on prio target ?
Does rotation changes with 2 or 4 pcs?
Anyone mind looking over logs to see what I could be doing better?
Average city size of 2 million people? You live in China?
Hmm trying to figure out which 2nd lethal poison to use with Amplifying as sin in m+
assuming all 32.5 people in your city do 1 galakrond's fall a day. that's approximately 2 nick of times dropped per day
Do you lose socket when you recraft item with new spark?
is deadly or instant better to pair with Amp in m+?
Always deadly
i do stupid stuff now in everbloom - like play outlaw or sub
Don't you need deadly for envenom?
in legion an ass rogue burst down my prot warr in 5 secs
xD
deadly does the same amt of instant as instant - but also has a dot so
What do u think about this talents Yoda said for Mythic+
as a whole, if everyone in this discord did only 1 galakrond's fall a day, there would be a total of 8,541 nick of time's dropped.
none of which you dropped
\
lol wait Avih hows it say kingslayers but you have the outlaw swords
xD
Is it just becuase of hte main hand?
Damn
my xmogs are so f'd up
Isn't more because deadly procs the talent and instant doesn't?
I wanna find a dope rogue sin mog for a female orc
And the fyrak trinket too bro is so lucky
but aint got the g to use AH for it
does anyone knows how to add pandemic to plater buffs?
would look sick on female orc 100%
get on wago.io and search for exatcly that
i'll dm one
ripped out of whispyrs pack
https://i.imgur.com/TALKlRB.png haste is simming higher for me in ST, is that cuz i've reached some sort of threshold or something?
!dagger
i'm so basic
Same but for Tauren
It exists -
Gn memz
considering you're a racoon you could've just borrowed one of @earnest remnant 's 18

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true
i have 5, idm sharing
its because stats work together and you want some of everything
just do what robot says

!up
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Ambush is currently only used with non-venthyr builds using subterfuge
The reasoning is a little complicated, but the most important of them is the difference in combo points on crit (up to 4 vs 3) and it's interaction with Flagellation.
You also have to consider the additional poison application chances. Ambush is not considerably worse or better in any situation, so you aren't losing out on much if you don't use it.
Not having acrobatic strikes feels like such buttcheeks after having it for so long 😞
isnt there a link on wowhead for trinket tier list? why am i having such a hard time finding it
Just hit bloodmallet
It’s in the “Gear” section
yeah im looking on the gear & bis page, but im not seeing the list from before
Anyone got a nice WA for Branch trinket ?
I must have literally gone blind
How about weps? Or is it literally just Nick of Time or bust? 😛
Enjoy the Nick farm 
oh how pretty
i got indestructible no speed or leach madge
highest ilvl mh > nick of time > any other dagger in the game
ideally, you get lucky and get a 489 nick of time from vault
i need the dont forget your poisons wa.. i just went through valc wondering why i wasnt first in damage
anyone that weak aura lol
nick of time 483 is basically the same as another 489 in mainhand
how do you make it so you can see all poisons for enemies i na pack instead of just targeted
Timestrike is wild
Plater profile can do that
Highly recommend the one in !Wa
ty
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Really like Ceveron’s, super clean
just came back to the game after long layoff. am I good to just macro in Echoing Reprimand with Mut and Ambush?
sorry I'm new to assa and dont understand this part from the wowhead guide: " Shiv to maintain uptime during Kingsbane after the first Shiv expires". I use shiv in the opener then shiv again when expired?
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Check out the guides for the recommended builds to get started 🙂
is kingsbane the only other ability that cleaves off caustic?
Shiv before KB and then use again so that it doesn’t fall off during the KB duration (2 charges)
Envenom and your poisons do too
thanks, and no shiv until next KB, right?
yea
Ok thanks. A little confused because I've been using those guides and I could have swore I read that ER over Shadow Dance is a little easier to get started playing as Shadow Dance's improved dmg is based off of snapshotting your bleeds or something like that?
Basically. Shiv exists to empower KB now
thanks for the clarification!
I’d honestly say that the difficulty of shadow dance is overrated. Once you get the reasoning and macro SD and kingsbane together it becomes much easier
I see, alright I'll stick with SD
hi guys, can some1 link me the branch wa?
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Found in LE’s profile @serene mason
Im still new to this new assa and i dont understand one thing: Why do we spend at 4+ instead of 5+ ? I mean whats the point of taking Deeper Stratagem then ? Im so confused with this
Yo what server do you play mate?
Ragnaros - EU
Oh, wrong yajin then 😢
there are more yajins?!
@hexed willow ty btw
Yeah there's one on my server hehe
How will I know when to use Shiv in mythic+ or raid? Am I looking for a buff on the target or? Is there an addon that will tell me when I need to? I'm not getting anything with DBM
another question: "Maintain full uptime on Garrote. Make sure to let empowered Garrotes from Improved Garrote time out fully before reapplying." does it mean I let it fall or I can refresh in pandemic window?
let it fall off
Guys I hate to say it but IB is not actually bad on some dungeons for tyrannical
Doing more overall on specifically everbloom
Deeper stratagem lets us spend when we generate too many combo points. You don’t generate at 4 because seal fate can make you go over, which is wasted combo points. It’s less energy efficient than finishing at 4
Shiv before KB and then during KB (typically 8s in)
@hexed willow another reason I liked the ER build is because it uses Acro Strikes which seems like a good talent to have for someone new who is still learning mechanics
ok so shiv only for my own rotation benefit and not in response to any boss ability?
typically shiv after one gcd after shadowdance runs out for second shiv
at least thats how ive been doing it
like IB is actually doing same overall this week as spatter, at least in everbloom
and that dmg is where it matters more
is there any specific/recommended buff i should use with the cruel dreamcarver dagger?
yeah I just got the Cruel Dreamcarver too. Can I macro that into something?
I am a cat of many talents 🙂
should I just use the Emerald Dragonfang instead of Dreamcarver?
So what's the general process whenever we're on downtime? bleeds/poisons applied to the enemy. Do we just pool energy and envenom whenever we're >50%?
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Keep bleeds up, maximize your envenom buff uptime, making sure to cast envenom while envenom is still up for the tier set (So ideally during envenom's pandemic window. Don't think about 50%. Do this until you drop your envenom buff because you couldn't refresh in time due to energy/bleed refreshing, then pool to 80% energy and start over again, doing this until KB comes back up and you enter your burst phase again
Short and simple :)
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emotinal dmg?
huh
what's the lowest mythic level to get the best upgradeable loot? Is it 12?
ty
18
From vault yes
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so the pooling on envenoms comes into play when ur at +4 CP's and envenom is still like, in the middle of it's duration, aka-not yet in pandemic range?
Whats "pandemic" mean
anyone have a good video or article that explains how the skills actually interact and synergize? like I can follow the rotation but I also wanna understand behind the scenes why we're doing the rotation this way
Envenom when you have <2s of the debuff remaining
Check out whispyr on YouTube, he does exactly that
And it’s so well done
Love some free upgrades
Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage
Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/
Pandemic is when there is <30% duration of a dot that can be refreshed without losing any ticks (added to the new dot application)
It’s 8.4s for max rupture and 6s for garrote
You want sub <2 for maximum pooling time as well as maintaining 4p t31
so we lose some dps if we dont do it at the exact time or anything below that time is pandemic
Anything below is good!
great thanks!
Just don’t do it for your stealthed garrotes/ruptures
The duration is extended but the bonus damage is not. Let those fall off naturally unless you’re doing another stealth
hey guys
whats the most optimal timing to recieve PI
on dance+kb?
or to get through the opener quicker
but since you dm into shiv, doesnt it clip the last kb tick since pi is 15 sec?
because youll also be using dance+kb right after dm
With DM
Dibs on Pi is a great WA to share with priests
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fully? i mean the entire duration till 0?
tyty ill get it
For improved dots yes
You could debate it’s a minor loss for rupture, but it’s v bad to clip improved garrote with a normal garrote
PI doesn't give us reduced gcd like other classes, energy classes are locked at 1 sec gcd's minus outlaw during adrenaline rush
So just wanna maximize damage out of pi and max damage is getting it on DM
KB ticks are also not hasted
By the time the priest is notified of your PI request, you’ve already shiv’d
So it lines up
++
PI doesnt need to line up with the last tick or anything, afaik its mainly for the bleeds + DM + the auto swing applying more poisons which amps up KB
Missing the last tick in of itself won't be as bad as missing the tick with shiv
Quick question: WoWAnalyzer tells me its a mistake to use envenom under 5 combo points. The wowhead guide says 4+. Im confused. Which one is more optimal?
Wowanalyzer states it hasn’t been updated for 10.2 for sin
4 is good
still a great tool for dot uptime and energy management, but look at the red rectangles for envenom and discount any 4 uses
Good for identifying when you envenom when you should’ve ruptured for example
In AoE is it better to spread dots or just spam envenom and have dots on main target? (with 4pc)
Maintain your bleeds, then spam envenom on your CS target
Bleeds is how you’ll have the energy to do the latter
Do you just keep rupture and garrote on main and then just Tempest on other targets? Or do you also put rupture on other adds?
so basically, do I put rupture on all targets before envenom spam
guys
what happend
was there a patch yesterday so i make less dmg ?
same boss , better gear less dmg
Rupture and garrote whatever you can with carnage, then CT and envenom away unless you don't have energy saturation
when is the perfect time for PI? casting Deathmark or casting Kingsbane?
dm
just sitting in my bag
but its fine to do ti with improved garrote? i mean clip improved with improved?
Tempest drains your energy, keep rupture and garrote on all your targets. Wowhead’s aoe guide is good
You can clip improved with improved
But not improved with basic
had my pi fun for 1 raidnight, now the arcane mage is getting it 
I feel like if we pop witherbark and take like 8 steps around our boss targeting circle, we get it for the full kingsbane duration
Boss could’ve died before you got another DM
gotcha thanks
can be OwO
I do good damage in ST when I do the full opener about 250k but once I start maintaining bleeds and refreshing envenom the damage is bad around 100-120k and that's if I'm lucky and I'm sticking to the target. I try to not cast bleeds below half energy for Sanguine blades and I use shadowdance+kb on cd . I'm using the ST talents from the guide on wowhead. What can I do better?
Pretend Sanguine Blades doesn't exist for one
I mean, opener is always gonna be way higher than anything sustained afterwards
Why?
Because playing around it isn't really a dps win
You don't want to try to do anything special with it - since math works out that way
Pooling properly however is
Think of it as a bonus that just exists sometimes
By that i mean not clipping envenoms
that you never have to think about
I mean you wanna clip envenoms
Otherwise RIP 4p
You should maintain bleeds so that you have energy. But don’t play around sanguine blades
It’s just free damage that you’ll get in energy positive situations
Even on aoe??
But you shouldn’t not spend energy for bleeds, it’s a spiraling situation
just pretend SB doesn't exist
Bleeds is life
The more things are bleeding, the more damage you can funnel into your CS target
CT being the lowest prio bleed
yeah branch is so easy to game, you can basically ignore it being a thing
CT will nuke your energy pool if you don't properly put up other bleeds first
Bleeds -> start your cd window -> put up CT -> funnel damage while maintaining bleeds
Damn basically told me I'm playing the whole spec wrong lol
I always just go garrote > garrote > rupture > mutilate > fok > crimson tempest...then start.
No more SB then
unless i'm kb/dm a prio target then it changes up ya know
Probably should do another rupture if you have 5 targets
Yes SB, just don’t do anything dumb because of it
reject SB, return to DB
you're saying like one extra rupture?
yeah i mean if there are mad targets with a lot of hp sure
Even if they don’t have mad hp
but i feel like getting KB/DM and stuff on that prio target is higher priority, maybe i'm wrong
more ruptures = more energy + more agility
Still want your 100% uptime on all your bleeds and chaining your envenoms as a priority over blades
If you are double garroting that’s 5-6 targets
So double rupture so it’s on all targets
you can't
IC
you dont have globals to put two ruptures up like that
hrmm
Guys, do you run hybrid on all dungeons on tyranical?
same for garrote. We double garrote early so we get the 50% stealth damage and all the other niceties
yeah i didn't realize that at all
i figured that was just during subterfuge
Does any1 know how to open prismatic socket to my new crafted wrist?
Get your dots up, be happy 🙂
Vault
Can you share logs?
is this the only way mate?
For bracer sockets, yes
ty babe
Anytime 🙂
I like answering once I learn a thing. Gotta keep passing down the knowledge!
so youre saying utilitarian is better for m+ than arterial shock
I’m a newb, I see high level players using this build, are they trying to optimize ST for tyrannical week?
are you guys using the hybrid or shock build this week?
shock
!up
I do keys around the 17-19 range
@hexed willow tell me what i mainly did wrong, i think i pressed some kb windoes in wrong opener order but i think i did good so far 😒 i would agree on 110k dps so 15k missing of errors but 35k dps missing seems like a lot 😒
Sims are never perfect, you had good dot up time. There seems to be some cases where you used abilities wrong (like a SD without KB after your opener) or not necessarily pooling? I’d also run it the wowanalyzer to check on mutilate usages (ignore if it’s angry at 4)
What's most fun, DH Or Rogue?
do you have adhd
DHs are over the line broken atm, so they'll 100% get nerfed soon after World First race.
@final remnant No.
rogue
anyone know how many crests u get per dung complete?
the dh's in my guild say rogues are broken not them XD
Best survey ever.
Rogue: skill.
DH: ADHD
Is it possible to have two dreamcrafted items yet?
you should have 2 sparks this week
3 halves last week, 1 this week.
do your entire campaign
Do you get it from the weekly 1500 rep quest?
honestly have no idea, just did my campaign both weeks and got them, didnt really pay attention to exactly what did
Very new rogue, is it normal for my damage to drop extremely low after my initial opener, I don’t have any set from 10.1 or 10.2 so I don’t know if I should be doing a different rotation or if it’s normal
you should do them regardless of what drops it, you need the rep for aug rune
can I macro dance with KB?
thanks, I didn't know. will pay attention
ya dance off gcd so you can fuck up doing that if you aren't paying attention, nothing worse than looking down halfway through your ramp and seeing that KB didnt go off XD
that is just the damage profile for sin right now, like baby venthyr druids. We big burst then tickle for awhile.
So the “filler” is just letting your autos do stuff while refreshing envenom, rupture, and garrote?
read the wowhead guide, its good.
but the main thing is pool on finishers not builders.
I have it doesn’t explain a filler very well
And I didn’t understand what pooling meant
pooling is just letting your energy restore instead of just facerolling your buttons every GCD
Is there a point you ever just spam everything or do you always look after cds
you giga spam during cds
then pool outside of them
pooling for us is just to extend envenom uptime
if you dont have new 4 set yet it kind of doenst do anything
but new 4 set you cast envenom when you already have envenom buff to do more dam
Does the rotation change much without the 4 set or should I just do the new rotation
if envenom falls you build 4+ combo points and get 80% energy then start rolling the envenoms again
you should just do the new rotation
its not even that different, it just requires you to not be DH levels of stupid
I can peak like like 250k 300k but it drops to like 40k and never truly spikes up
!dagger
Critter best buff
What ilvl are you?
I come from maiming a mage so I got the rotation down pretty well I just don’t know what dmg is normal and what isn’t
424
Yeah that's pretty low, just get gear and keep practicing
40k? Something is like seriously wrong.
Well it was just a character boost so I haven’t truly done much on there yet
Reread the guide like 5 times
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Well I will say I made a macro for dance and kings bane and I thought both were off gcd
And then also just realized I didn’t have 2 poisons bc I thought I could only have 2 not 4. So maybe it’s higher
Like as a new player to any class you should reread guides multiple times throughout your own improvement because there are things that you may not understand until you get experience. You don't just read them once and yolo it. Keep doing homework as you improve.
I have been, I’m not being ignorant I just like to ask questions for things I may not understand do to certain workings. You have helped clarify a lot so I appreciate it. The aoe rotation seems like a whole new animal
also whispyr has video guides as well, i think they may be a tiny bit outdated because garrote was giving 5cp from stealth but now only 3 but its still basically the same.
How much if a dmg increase is the new set? Is there big buff from the set of there abilities
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I got 23k from old shit level 4 set (didnt play last tier so its crap i got a week before reset)
but like everyone is going to be different
my tier was like 437 ilvl
That’s fair. I’ll have to do some more practice I’m sure. I need to learn the aoe build to get some gear from m+
my ilvl now is like 473ish or something
They’re not outdated, he removed that 5cp one and corrected it
ah ok cool
Since it was a bug
first try 😄
giga
nice
Grats! Big win for a while
I think considering I prob wont get to tindral mythic its prob a keep till s4
Is 2-3% dmg for a passive trinket good?
Anyone got that KB tracking WA?
I just got like the best rng ever lol I opened up on the 5 target dummies to warm up for my first key and at the end of my ramp i was doing 1.3 million dps.
i usually do like 700-800k on them
You da real mvp
do you guys play acrobatic strikes for entangling?
no
if you run out and step back in you lose at most like 1 auto attack
gotcha tyty
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Hello.Could please someone explain aoe assassin for me? Garrot everything and then pick one main target and cast the full rotation on them? I am confused. ty.
Get up your bleeds, and then pump poison damage into your caustic splatter target. Maintain bleeds
Do we finish on 4cp at all times? ST raid wise question
Pretty much yes
caustic splatter goes on first target I mutilate after rupture and deadly poison?
Both for Envenom and rupture?
You can easily change your CS target, you want it on the prio target though
ah I understand ty!
Deadly poison you don’t think about much, it just goes up
But yeah maintain garrote and rupture on all targets
Ye
Keep up crimston tempest if you can but it isn’t as big of a priority as your other 2 bleeds
hi, which builds for beginners? m+ and single
sims keep telling me to lose mastery, even my mastery is lower than my crit and it wants me to have more haste that mastery aswell, do you guys have the same thing? im 474
Branch increased the value of your other stats
Because it’s so much mastery during your big damage cd
i guess
Zoldyck does work on KB right?
I am not a dummy right?
Please tell me I am not a dummy
If you don’t trust me, trust whispyr @radiant raptor
nah i mean it make sense
It makes spec swapping nicer at least
Also signet keeps doing 1-2% of my dmg
It looks so dogshit
Is there something I am missing
For all 4 of us in my raid with it
Any in here could out from a LOG tell me the last i need for logging even better? 
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/H2Bz6nkxZVNCyt7F#fight=last&type=damage-done
signet can stack fast or not
When I was on target dummies on ptr with it it was very hit or miss, sometimes it would o like 0.5 of my damage, sometimes 5%, on 6 min dummy tests
Yes I heard it's rng
but shines in 6 min+ fights
10 pulls is nothing for the god of rng
Yeah I want pips or hourglass, just a passive trinket that's good everywhere and I don't think about
i just want pips to go with my branch
you dont like branch?
oh yeah for sure
(As opposed to signet)
yeah i mean i dunno i also have 29% crit so that feels good i guess hah
i've always liked having higher crit
I mean crit is a stat that does actually affect gameplay, because of SF
even if it's minor
I do feel weird like "missing" that agi though
Signet brand kinda fucks ngl
Like now on igira
Shit does a gazillion damage if you can keep it rolling even in dungeons
I’m rocking a stupid amount of vers rn, wtb crit/haste rings
i'm gonna run the raid as sub next week maybe - assuming we actually get a charge tuesday and it doesn't bug
at least our normal run
I mean i'm still using my 447 nelth trinket

















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