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your group has 3 more dks and 2 more augs than my raid, how do you do that
im the officer and top 2 dps so nobody in my raid will be questioning me focusing the boss instead of swapping 
Do what
Focusing the boss is correct play for sin
make people play those specs
our dragon doesnt wanna play aug, we got 1 dk apparently but i dont think i have ever seen him in details (maybe he is in the raid, im not sure)
U have internal bleeding
if there are adds you talent spatter
also i like how there is shiv dmg on the spears, bot no dot dmg
so it was useless pretty much 
I obtained 4 set and with mostly none bis items and 463/454 daggers I am blasting bosses
How tf do I waste shiv on spears and still get like a 95 parse
I just hope they now wont touch anything for some time
People need to start parsing so my guild stops thinking I know how to play rogue..
ap hit it
but that means spatter would have hit too
True
just remember, if there are adds, just talent spatter
Can’t wait for raging week when my tank asks me to pick up AP in m+
Yup. Kinda just forgot that 😂
Anyway, goodnight friends!
guys out of 3 spec is sin hardest ? i spent 2 hours reading FAQ i only kinda learned st , but i still got kinda no idea on aoe xd
hot take? i dont like doing keys with Augs
i dont like augs
they are boosted 90% of the time
but they didnt pay for it
thats my hot take
ya just ran a 20 with an aug who was def not ready for anything over a 15
dont think there is a definitive hardest
It's easiest
Outlaw falls apart very easily rn
Assa > sub > law for me
^
outlaw needs you to have 3 redbulls in you, assa needs you to micromanage multiple things, sub needs you to learn cooldown windows
sub is just in dire need of help in general
couldnt pay me to play outlaw
i was thinking to switch assa, cause i always liked it in raid, it looks fun
but it's confusing on AoE
i don't understand some things at all
Seems like it needs some of the cool toys assa and outlaw got
From my short time messing w it
it just got ignored
actually ridicolous
outlaw is better than sub
That was a difficultly ranking
its about difficulty
like if i'm not wrong, the guide says Mutilate for extending SnD, so if you have Kingsbane up, you wouldn't use it on Aoe ? or if u use it, is it worth the damage is you're not using Envenom ? 
it feels alright in ST in my opinion, but from the 1 everbloom key i did as sub the overall experience was just respeccing to assa
Idk, shadow craft is kinda insane
Assa is raiding spec
i think Outlaw is pretty easy u just gotta press hard and fast
Which ones that
why do people always jerk off about "difficulty" in general
Always was, always will be
like man
Sub didn't get ignored
you got something wrong there, mutilate extends spatter not snd
it is,u know what is also insane?
stop jerking yourself off for playing a "hard" or "easy" spec or whatever, just makes you look like a idiot that is trying too make themself feel better 
You stack your shadowed techniques stacks and they auto spend on builders, or spenders during sod
oh yeah i miss wrote it
Envenom extends SnD
"im AKSHUALY playing a HARD spec" cool mate, nobody cares, you still died too fire like an idiot
Oh that, yeah that's pretty cool
so can you rephrase the question, im confused what the issue is
the guy was asking which is the easiest to learn and ure having a meltdown
anybody know in-depth informations about sudden demise? like how often it refreshes internally, what bleedings it triggers from (i get the feeling that its bugged).
can i DM you ?
sure
Another day of people having no clue what sub does 
cus we have that weird difficulty shit every 20min
beware,he's cursed
at least i learn smth
When spec is bad I play it nonetheless, I am too bad of a player to change classes and specs

maybe stop reading a thread about spec discussion every 20mins then 🤷
So macroing SD/KB together it looks like kingsbane always goes off first, is that making the nightstalker snapshot not work?
Tbf I was just saying it felt like sub was missing some cool toys compared to when i messed with assa and outlaw
ye, macro it so it casts SD first
everyone will just say their spec is the hardest to feed their ego, there are some objective criterias tho
guys belt or wrist for toxic patch ? did anyone check which one ideal
is that just setting up as a cast sequence?
eh, its just some weird desicions with sub overall
like, now you still use backstab/gloomblade in st.......but only during shadowblades
your aoe tools all cost more energy and are nerfed + are told "you are supposed too suck in low target" which is....weird when the others dont have that "restriction" etc.......
yo guys should I be pooling energy before SD cycles to make use of sanguine blades?
If anything isn't the only spec that didn't get an actual new cool thing sin?
or clunky things like finality rupture on sub
Not so many sudden reactions in the rotation
Thats perfectly fair, though I haven't touched the class really in a year or so most of its new to me
i mean, spatter is new, sudden demise is new, IC is new, shadowdance is "new" cus it interacts with the kit
you use it on the opener shadowdance as funny as it sounds
and sub timings are the most cursed thing ever
sblades 2min
flag 1 30min
symbols 25
goremaws 45
coldblood 45
shadowdance depeends on uptime
like, bruh
True forgot about spatter
thats so cursed
Ic isn't new but rework is cool ye
i mean, current IC is new
And I was talking about this current rework
I haven't even gotten to mess with spatter yet
Yeye
old ic was litearlly "press garrote and rup once, everything bleeds, now wait 45 seconds"
I've been doing keys yeah but low ones so far (on rogue anyway) and everything is dead before its time to mutilate
how do you even make spatter work in m+? i feel like i need 6 globals until i can use spatter
Don't do 10s and you will have plenty of time to setup all your things
Yeah ofc
I liked older IC more
I can't really press CDs on packs in 20s rn
But I tried new on 10 dungs so far, didn’t even know about smart casting
older IC was a bandaid fix too make it work at all (and didnt really do that cus the costs too reach it was way too hifh)
Just need to do actual keys I guess
get a havoc dh or 2, and thats still a thing in +57 keys

Well i mean
I’ll do an actual key with you buddy
Alright buddy
In these
nah, no ct when kingsbane is ready
Lmao
Which one of us is playing with 200 ping
Keep in mind my rogue isn't doing real keys yet
You
I didnt know that two garrotes on same target apply garrotes on 4 other targets, I was garrote-change target-garrote
Can't play outlaw with 200 ping
bis daggers this tier
I cann't rly cast kb on packs in the keys I've done since theyre sub 10s, literally by the time CT is up they've popped sudden demise 
Working my way up since I don't have s2 score to boost me
Whispyr Wowhead guide is top notch for all q’s. I am used to watch videos but I opted for written guide this time and all sat better. Atleast for me.
1/1
man
ideally you KB before CT is up if you are popping cds in the pack
weird flex
its b tier
it has an s tier name
I atm suck badly in M+
i already have branch and signet but
No AS
but crab is kewl
Different IC
😂
hey guys so on Sin is our main limiting resource energy rather than GCDs like on Sub?
I dont feel comfortable yet, did some 10ish keys in 15-20 range
It's procs quite often, not the worst in m+ with the avoidance
IC?
Indiscriminate Carnage
Huh
like I'm running out of energy a lot
on Sub I never pooled because if you miss a GCD you lose damage
Tea or no Tea build?
Yes, both sub and assa run out of energy
same for me lul
I have tea and use all 3 charges before the 1 min SD lol
u should be put to jail for that
joking
oh should I save for Kingsbane windows?
whispyr did an amazing job
You dont need to cast a spell every global
ty
Watch me type it in caps plz
Bruh you gotta have like 1 haste and no dots on the target if u use 3 thistles in 1 min
Not a flex, mobs have too low HP, sin does too much damage, and sin CDs are too long for these type of keys
A L W A Y S
hahahah thanks got it 😄
not a flex im just flexing by not flexing wdym 😄
You can try whispyrs pooling wa
Weird take but i feel like Sudden Demise this week applies to the demise of my party and not the adds
so do you guys pool before SD windows for sanguine blades?
Sure
!guide
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
the first one
the tank in the tott i just did pulled the entire first hallway
Ahhh I've been using the Method one
and it did in fact lead to my parties sudden demise

True, i use dance to fix the tank chainpulling and locking me out of carnage
Man's just saying sin cooldowns last like 20 seconds and by the time you get proper value from them everything is dead
Sudden Feed
The lengths a man has to go
What's the best way to sim myself for dungeons? dungeon slice or patchwerk 5 targets for 5 mins?
so Wowhead opener is better than the Method one? Cause I'm seeing more damage from the Method one
Shit half the time the boss is dead by the time my cds are done lmak
dslice
tyty
sorry for all the nooby questions
Where we get this neck from?
wowhead opener is 150-200dps more on average,ive asked whispyr more than 10 times
how can i optimize sudden demise dmg? compared to other ppl who also ran the same key it's so low. i dont rly understand this talent lol
interesting I was just being shit then
Also you testing it yourself is to the mercy of rng
lord kazzak blasted lands
Many thanks, i guess a low drop rate and drops only once a day?
You need to make sure things have all your bleeds
yeah i do that, but things just dont pop *
it dropped for me 2nd day,u can kill it once a day,its a seasonal event,should happen some time for everyone
u r welcome friend
so spec is the same just playstyle slightly different
I'll use the wowhead guide thanks all appreciate the help
do i refresh bleeds to full if the mobs are on 35% hp for Sudden demise?
No
you arent aiming to optimize sudden demise damage it just happens while playing
its inefficient damage if you're just pressing bleeds on shit thats about to die just to proc sd
idk maybe it is just a skill issue.. i just dont get it lol
stack mastery, then sudden starts doing some work
u cant rly have a strong grasp of a specc without testing it tbh,everything comes with experience.If u do the same mistake 100 times u will understand by urself its wrong but in all,no we dont refresh 😛
anyone know what this buff is and why i seem to perminately have it
WW monk's TOD in shambles
!dagger
its your dagger
omg
and this is the best buff you can get from that dagger
tod and sudden are not even remotely comparable
so this dagger isnt just flavor text?
no. But the other buffs are useless
you can fall from degen heights and still not die
not to mention that 10% leech
Yeah unfortunately really underwhelming
The buffs are meh.
But i just rock the beast one all the time as a nice safety net to cover all situations
sudden is just a better TOD
i mean the 10% leech saved me in a fall
it also increases bleed damage by 10%
Yeah exactly
so instead of wiping your whole party on a pack you pressed TOD on, you can do so on every pack

Yesterday my friend on discord told me "Bro why do you hate us?" I told him "I swear i stopped hitting but i just cant unbleed the adds"
that 10% is also the entire reason the talent is strong
could remove the entire "execute" part and nothing would Change
maybe less deaths from bursting
next week assa rogues in keys 📈
majority probs would get 4p, more gear, fortified week, higher keys
oh boy the damage
yeah but so do demon hunters
Every key I dont run with BM and DH 📈
thats a universal thing
everyone does
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
holy fuck everbloom is cursed on bursting
@royal lantern what spec hardest? Plis help me ego
throne too
The goblin packs are eh. 
did 20 minutes pass already since the last time someone asked?
More, im late
because the blossoms blow up instantly lmao
spriest
you press pi every 2min
grrrrrrr i have to do other dungeons now cause im not getting invited
and then have too fight the urge foo fall asleep
cus you are 10.2 spriest and nothing you do matters

I actually might use that to get my spriest to move out of shit for once
😅
Its a solid argument
I've done 26 Falls, no dagger. The pain is real man
very real
26 is beginner numbers
Hi guys, can anyone help me with a question regarding logging?
The damage that you get out of an aug evoker or PI, does that count towards your log?
envenom minimum cp usage?
Mostly no, only stats will
4 its in the guide
Thats what i thought. But i just looked at a video, with a guy dishing some serious dmg on mythic igira, and his logs says the exact same as his details in the video. Can evoker dmg be removed from details?
oh man, my condolences lol
idk i raid with details turned off
Are you even a gamer
no way you asked me that
ive crafted a dagger,will be working for 1 Nick and the trinkets
its kinda stupid AF to spend so much of urself
quick question for the 2nd use of Kingsbane in a fight. do i wait with dance for the last 5 seconds of KB or do i dance immediately?
i dont understand shiv usage
Dunno, crafting a dagger is prolly the worst thing to do currently
when kb left 6 sec we using shiv right
1pre kb, 1during kb when the first one runs out
like, you want that 100% coverage, that it
and as someone has said, tea at 6-5 seconds and if you really wanna optimize, you vanish at 3 seconds left of kb
Which spec easiest coverage
there should be macro about pi me when press DM can someone send here cant find it
idk man, have no stupid comment ready rn
Dang gotcha
happy thanksgiving, US Rogues
you make a /w with the priests name lol
Just let the priest track your DM if its for raid
İ mean just raid
"/w priestgod pi me daddy" in your deathmark macro
And no one can change my mind
real
No u
but exploiting these deranged bums for screenshots of funny flame messages makes m+ worth it for me
True
#showtoolip Deathmark
/cast Deathmark
/run if UnitExists("focus") then SendChatMessage(">> PI ME <<", "WHISPER", nil, (GetUnitName("focus", true))) end```
Do you need the priest on focus for that one to work?
its joever sir
yar
My PI macro is "PI me please, onee-chan. ❤️ -^.^- uwu xoxo arigato gozaimasu!" or something like that
sick,stealing this

cease
Jk 
I have one for when I tank with an alt for our druid, same with IB instead of PI and onii-chan because he is a guy
I never use them, just for quick fun tho

If you're running with the same Priest there's an addon called PIBuddy. I can't imagine using focus just to tell a priest to PI
Am I the only person who misses acrobatic strikes 😦
Is there a way to proc signet more? It is doing 1% of my dmg on pure ST fights
others itll do 7-8%
When do I use branch trinket? with DM?
ye
stay on the boss more
463
Happy Thanksgiving filthy rogues
my 463 signet did 1M dmg on volcoross yesterday
3m fight
Most UIs are already tracking party buffs. The addon sends an audio alert. So you don’t have to waste /focus to send a message
guys im reading the guide on wowhead and that spending on 4+ CP, i just want to make sure, does it mean i will spend at 4 OR more right ?
yes
Correct
hi mastery crit is what i should go look for?
algo haste is important i see but prio mast crit?
!wa
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sim to win
depends on your gear
no clear winner
Mastery first then a fair amount of both haste/crit, but unless you're just crazy overcapped on one stat it doesn't really matter, depends what you have rn
why does sin pool so much out of cds with sanguine blades dpe being lower than mutilate alone
its not about sanguine
ignore that talent
its about chaining envenoms into eachother for uptime + 4set procs
anyone here who uses plater? my evenom buff on personal bar is bugging out and doesnt go away
sanguine just.....exits, you can fully ignore it beeing a thing, sometimes you do more dmg, but you dont play around it
I'm currently 2+2 and sometimes try to play around sanguine cuz of the old 2pc, but yeah if you have the new 4set that talent does not exist
In st to be precise
should i press deathmark 16s before kingsbane to buff it if i have 4 piece from last season?
cool, thanks
my plater stopped showing me bleeds/poisons on my target, i didn't change anything, does anyone have the same problem?
no but my evenom buff on personal bar is bugging out and doesnt go away
Be luckier, the trinkets damage varies wildly depending on how much it procs (moreso than other trinkets since every proc makes subsequent procs do more damage)
looks good 👍
!whispyr
!whispyr
This is the sheet
!whispyr
LOL
!whispyr
i feel like this is whispyrs way of saying "go touch grass you mong"
im pretty sure i asked for this command a few days ago
can the command be a roulette between the gif and the picture
and we just keep stealing pictures from whispyrs videos for the command
XD
is there a list of commands stored somewhere? I feel like we have quite a few and yet there's always one I'm missing
rrrrrrrrrrrrrah galakrond prison sucks, there is like zero oceanic keys
Hoi
Best dungeon sims for Sin are still DS/DR?
i got so drunk last night I forgot I got branch
type !help
ha sent to shadow realm
gotim
goodness
!wa
then you find you did it on WoD difficulty
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Pooling Practice Tool
what sort of dps were you guys hitting in dungeons around 450?
Not had chance to gear properly yet, but wanting to check im doing a good ballpark with about 120k total on an 11 Fall
Anyone here with Plater ?
like 130k overall?
probably just about everyone
what is plater?
Is timestrike really that big of a deal or can my mental rest for a bit and stop farming this cursed place and just roll with the other dagger instead
2nd dagger is 1 or 2% idk
would not do it for my own sanity
if i would get the first one 
sim to win
what build are people playing for keys this week?
huge
gonna take mine from the vault 
i got one, on my first key, that was an 11. I never saw any loot from that dungeon since
i always get the legs
like
6x now legs
My first nick came out of chest.
i still have 447 legs from last season
The legs are good tho
didnt find a single piece of pants yet
I got the legs from atal'dazar, cant fucking wear em yet because I dont have 4 pc
Fair
no its like a really big deal, you need to waste away hunting the final piece
That 1% won't let me sleep
Heres a thought, go get that damn Cruel Dreamcarver for Mythic Prog.
you are the type of guy that would make someone raceswap for 0.5% dps gain, but only because the other guy was too dumb to understand sarcasm
So that you can have as much leech as that fucking demon hunter who beats you on the charts
Man fuck havocs
below 50% health
i got both daggers in 1 day
i would raceswap all day every day if it didnt cost irl money
That dagger is kind of dog btw, that one buff is the only thing somewhat worth getting
demonhunters are funny, they facetank so many dungeon mechanics and just outheal them
have you seen the buff from a mechanical?
like save your ass cheat death
what kind of DPS are you guys getting on a 1-2min dummy? pretty sure mine is terrible ahah
alos the hyper mechanical DPS manuever of emolation aura
well are you hitting buttons?
Ok but do you really need 2 cheat deaths, if so there's something wrong
looks over to the assholes running sporecloaks last season for prog look at those guys
0, last time i hit a target dummy i started out with the game and hit it cause i thought its an enemy
kek
you asked for it ?
last season my guild made it mandatory to run sporecloak and I looked at my raid lead like
is ther like a tld rules of sin like there used to be in the old guides
yep
You won't believe but still after the nerf there's still some people using it and demand for raid prog
and found this gif
i told oxi i need the command to show a picture of whispyr when typed, since there is no page
and he sent this gif right after it

xD
I didnt even know
best command
!whispyr
anyway good command
someday, when I have 4pc imma be just like you!
wrong boots?
you might have wasted a spark on them, should've been toxic thorn but idk, maybe you know what you're doing
tru
shrugs
time to make a new rogue
I think the only reason we aren't using those boots is because the haste reduction?
and vers?
but I literally have like 5% vers.
u sell out ur haste or stam, u chose haste
cause I have 20% haste and 60% mastery.
Does anyone know if wowanalyzer is updated for 10.2 assa?
Does it matter if i craft waist or wrist whit decay?
thats taboo speak
not really, just do your best judgement, if you get nice bracers? get waist, if you get nice waist? get bracers.
well i got both whit crit/mastery and a sockel slot as hero gear
just wondering if there is anything i should know befour crafting
what about cloak?
you might pick up some tips and tricks from wowanalyzer but its notoriously a meme
Some specs it’s good for
When it was updated last patch for sepsis it was pretty decent
what about it
anyone, whats the m+ build looking like this week?
my 2nd craft was ring, I couldnt take it anymore being without alchemical pocket
i mean, if he didn't get a nice cloak... put the patch on the cloak?
idk why youd run anything other than arterial
hmm ok
my opinion
are you a magician? cause that only goes on leather
IM SORRY I JUST

Good morning, im very new to the spec, had a couple questions if anyone wouldn't mind answering or explaining. 1) Dragon-Tempered Blades: do I apply DeadlyP, or AmpP first? (I assume the non-lethals dont matter much which order) 2) Usng the IV's guide, it says to use 1 charge of Shiv before KB, then extend the duration later during KB. Further down the guide, it says to pool and chain both charges during KB?
I WAS JUST THINKING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD
my brain is fried
i have been reading this chat too much today
cant be bothered with work
- doesnt matter 2. do the same thing over and over
-
doesnt matter how you apply poisons
-
you only use shiv for kingsbane
The order you apply them in has literally no impact. Yes 2 changes for kingsbane only
does ourtier set help us with energy in anyway?
if you are having energy issues
No, nor does it need to
you are literally crazy
no it makes you a crack fiend for chaining envenom
you might say it makes our energy worse
due to lack of control
(self control)
I for one enjoy taking a 10 second break to autoattack
go to envenom rehab by playing classic
its my mid raid boss fight smoke break
gotta hit the juul before i go back to doing honest DPS
our out of CD rotation is so boring i often times think im doing something wrong
so when is the assa nerf
when i do the opener i start out by doing 300+ dps, but then it lowers by ALOT and i end up with like 100k 90k dps after burst window
idk why this is, might just need more practice
ig
if you ever swear like that ever again
!wa
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opener is really strong if you get a good kb that's pretty normal
idk what your point of reference is
i haven't felt this cracked since legion
good morning/afternnon/evening (depending on your time zone)! I asked here how to have Vanish not screw my dummy parse, I ticked the "Use dynamic overall damage"box but it still resets the foght in details, am I missing something?
:3
its sad but yano
its a bit wild
I dont think we will get nerfed
I think we are doing just fine
you know who needs nerfed
maybe we are just good rn cos gear
cough cough demon hunter
I don't think ass is out of line with other high tier specs rn
wdym? i've seen ppl's parses playing sin in raid, they are usually able to stay above 200-300k after burst window, and maintain that until next window
i just feel like im dipping to much idk
nobody is doing 200k sustained
demon hunter leeching so hard, it asked the judge for even more alimony
unless it's like uncapped aoe and a constant supply of adds I guess
Tindral 
I got fucking juiced this week
spatter and pb procs goin hard there
452 -> 470 ilvl in less than 2 days
Guys with 4p set i need to chain envenom, do i stop chain when i reach 50% energy and w8 to regen to full, or i just keep it till i cant chain anymore, and then w8 to get full?
maybe they will let us be crazy
you continue once you get back to 100 energy
like unholy was last patch

whats the boss kill time, do they have an aug, do they get PI, whats their gear, are you fucking the rotaiton
Depends on what you mean by sustained i guess, but people are doing 240k on 4:40 fights of volcoross which is pure ST
volcoross is the magmorax fight of the season
maybe what he is implying is you get 600k then constant 100k for awhile lil bump with kb of 200k+
etc
not outlaw flatline
more like terros
Terros was hard week 1
do you not know how to dodge waves?
Volcoros was a trash mob lol
talk about yourself you good player, my guild was reprogging terros every week on mythic
i like pushing my hps
We had 25 seconds left until it even hit enrage first week 
Igira is also such a weird fight
Because for some reason it just has infinite amount of hp
when did rogue become a healer spec
My tank on larodar reclear today
Bopped himself
To kill me
And then taunted back 
Unlucky
i had healing done opened during terros prog, because i was pushng hps
dps was getting boring because i was topping meters anyways
go off king
heres a thought
for the fated season
we were fighting about feint casts on terros
what tier set do you think will be best?
The one that comes after fated
hopefully none, either they keep this one, get a new one, or dont give us one at all
dont give me the choice of 3 sets
there gonna be some cooked 2p2p gamers
for sure
i genuinely think 2 pc from last tier and this 2pc would be the only way to go
Add another slot to the tier options and let us run 4+2
Previous tier set doesn’t really mesh well with our kingsbane play style
hot
Yes
Either way they said they have some interesting stuff cooked up for fated
So well have to see
let blizzard cook
like an omnithing, just like unity was in SL. Its always in your belt slot and you can choose as which tierset part it should act as
actually
regret
dont let blizzard cook the last time they did that, we got shadowlands
next patch out in 3 weeks confirmed
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gkhj4xApyKnJLRQ1#fight=18 logs, am sneakdude, no tier set aswell, might have something to do with it
i enjoyed SL
but i started late S2
where most of the hated things were fixed
this is u?
lol
yh
SL was great with the exception of not being able to switch covenants unless you like punishment
who the fuck is getting 308k on heroic
which boss
gnarlydouche
without going into your casts sequence idk, but you're linking a fight with a damage amp so parses are gonna be fucky, also you habve no tier with stabilizes your your time inbetween CDs
Well, you still have s2 trinket
exactly
Probably more s2 stuff
im still replacing last tier and a ring
Might be a stupid question but is something changing in our opener if we get pi'd because of the haste buff we get?
No
no just do as normal
Get a 483 wep and 4set and you will do atleast 260k easy

already have the nick, im not too worried about second nick
look, you need pure data, go try and parse on Volocros, then look at everything. Every other fight has adds or damage amp
And dont bother to padd on adds, add dmg doesnt count on log aswell
Why not
If you misstime kb for like 15 sec. Is it worth to wait for dm or just pop the dm
Nick has the same value, no matter if you already have one
then why is it so important to get 2 nicks if one has the same value as 2?
I have a question- in prep phase in a ST fight b4 use deathmark etc etc i’ve seen that i must use envenom at 6 CP or u can’t refresh in time the first cast during KB.. do you agree?
5+
At 5 it expires sometime
Well one could say its even better in the offhand compared to other offhands
button mash harder XD if you let it expire then go with 6
O-O i never aeen that
Timestrike is pretty Nice, and a offhand sims for like 4-5% still
He meant that the second dagger has as much value as the first one
Dps is dps, just squeeze as much as possible of em juice
You also wont replace em unless you get a nick of time in vault
Time strike does not stack?
timestrike damage is based on how much timestrike you have
nothing else
so - pretty new to assa, how is indiscriminated carnage acting with the smart targeting of garrote? lets say i have 9 mobs for the math - then i press garrote once, its spreaded to 3 targets - do i have to choose a new target without garrote to spread it to 3 targets or is the smart targeting targeting automatically 3 targots without a garrote applied?
tl;dr : if i press garrote 3 times on the same mob, do i have garrote on 7 or on 9 targets
yes you need to go to a non garrotted target to get 3 out, otherwise it will only garrote 2 others
alright, thanks
so its pretty much garrote tab garrote tab garrote tab and then rupture tab rupture tab rupture tab to have the full value of 9 targets getting dotted b4 popping cds, huh?
if there is only 5 targets, you can just double garrote
u mean garrote tab garrote?
just garrote garrote and then rupture into cds?
Only to have a comfortable amount of venomous wounds
this is heavily target count dependant so not really a good way to discuss it, but with 5 targets you will garrote all 5 with a double cast on a single mob, you would then use up both IC charges for rupture and then cd's
oh no
OH NO
aight, thanks - just wondering how important it is to spread ruptures aswell for scent of blood
i would have at least 5 and not because of venemous wounds but scent of blood. well for both but yeah
for 5 mobs only double garrote or tripple for getting an extended duration for the empowered garrote?
i don't know the answer but i'd say not worth the gcd
hm ok
just reading a bit on wowhead right now and that question came into my head
it says double there aswell
(4-6 targets selected)
which tier piece is sin skipping for crafted?
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
legs
not skipping tier for crafted, but it's legs
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone out there taking the day to enjoy themselves however they choose
what am i giving thanks for?
rogue buffs
is haste vers food better than agi food??!
thank you
You can aswell craft head if you wanna multispec, diff aint big whatsoever
Watching the rank 1 sin gnarlroot pov and he doesn’t use Ambush, even in subterfuge, unless a Blindside proc happens.
Anyone else completely ignore Ambush unless it’s a proc? I’m guessing it’s to avoid the stealth delay that can cause you to lose a gcd?
!dagger
Maybe he just didnt rebind his mut to ambush on stealthbar
You usually use ambush over mut
do we mutilate sevarl targets in a pack? or spam it on one person
One
i mean for the caustic spatter talent
It’s it’s AOE you mut once to apply spatter then fan
You fok several targets in a pack outside of maintaining Spatter on one
Re apply Mut every 10 sec unless it’s prio target then you funnel mut and keep crimson bleed on rest
I'm just applying to everything. Oce or not.
it would be great if spatter was more than 10 seconds - it's so short
bro I havent done that lmao
i checked my logs I'm so dumb
shadow dance is mainly full of mut
https://youtu.be/RkYMuu5nNlk?si=z_cDKCHZXqc3p1Ah Maybe I’m just not seeing an ambush bind being pressed but it just looks like he spams Mut until it procs even in opener
Rank 1 World on Mythic Gnarlroot in Amirdrassil: The Dream's Hope
Esra asked me to upload his incredible boss kill to the channel
#worldofwarcraft #dragonflight #rogue
Yeah he doesnt have it bound to his stealthbar
I've been interested in this if there is much DPS gain in intentionally only using mut on opener when you are perma max energy in lust
For potentially more KB dmg
2 wafting devoutioon or 1 wafting 1 sophic?
@ebon cloud this you? Sorry for the random ping. Maybe something you wanna share
Or you really forgot
Iirc Whispyr said no
Because ambush does decently more damage than mut
sim
It’s like he doesn’t use a stealth bar at all, could be to avoid the stance delay? It does mess up opener for me sometimes when subterfuge expires right before I gcd the last ambush making me wait ~0.2secs to Mut
fall #44 no dagger 
Then youd just bind ambush separately
Right, but what I mean is that it seems he just says f it and only ambush with procs and sends Mut regardless of stealth of not
I wonder if it’s not a dps loss enough to just not deal with it
Noone that wants to maximize would randomly just do that
Just for the sake of 1 bind
Especially since ambush was a separate bind before
I’m curious on the explanation if he replies in chat
Gonna see if I can pull up the logs to see if he actually didn’t ambush opener at all
Hi, I received the on use dagger from raid tonight, how do I macro it as I am unsure of the number order (I know 13/14 are the trinkets) but what are the other slots
You dont
You look for a beast
not worth it?
is there a list of what beasts provide what buffs? how long do the buffs last?
!dagger
Yeah it seems that he opens with Mut and doesn’t Ambush unless it’s a proc regardless of Shadow Dance or Subterfuge
I'd be surprised if it wasnt just him forgetting to swap
I forgot aswell but realized it before s3
Guys what is your ST raid boss DPS at the end of fight? I am usually ending on either 70k or 90k, and there's always 4-10 people with more than 100k above me.
I feel like ith 452 ilvl I should be doing above 120k given how consistent assasinatin should be.
At least you got invited 44 times
How do we use shiv with kb?
You want to make sure shiv covers the entire kb. That’s pretty much it. With two charges it’s forgiving
Depends on Boss and many factors. Also im 476 so I dont think we can compare really
Differs wildly posting logs is biggest help
Is it 100%?
Checked his other logs and he seems to consistently do it
Pretty sure he forgot
Think you’re over complicating it lol
sim wants me to pu double wafting dev that sounds p crazy
If one player does x doesn’t mean it’s correct
zamn
Wafting > sophic all day
Probably just wondering because "#1" does it
Its alright to be curious
But im sure he just forgot to swap it to stealth bar
Thats pretty far off of rank 1 at this point
Don’t think it’s complicating it more curious of why since he is getting r1 logs atm by pressing by less button lol
You can get r1 logs while making errors
Well its not less its the same tbf
Since it autoswaps
Turns out in a bursts class. The burst window is what matters most 
Is there anyone who could help me with my logs?
rank 1 logs whilst not always the case, are rarely anything to go off of, before they whore out externals and fight timers to get them
At least until later
can't just say cook in this channel
I’m retired 
Already missed the time to parse gnarlroot, died after only one intermission this week
The only thing I’m cooking is @blazing jewel

I fucked up my S&D here, but I doubt it'd would be the cause of lacking 20-30k DPS, right?
Any help is appreciated 🙂
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MK1xFPHr3g6vnX7w#fight=12&type=damage-done&source=3
I did 350k still not r1 
Ty mate send them 🙂
These filthy padders (not me)
Lies
Tons of good weak auras and plater profiles I am finding. Is there any you find essential?
Badoutlaw Log Review
Whispyrs plater makes the debuffs more clean
Sorting out the unimportant ones
Stealth randomly breaking to youu too guys ?
!stealthbreak
Stealth can break from:
- evoker leggo buff (Unbound Surge) dropping
- Essence trinket on buff gain
- Voice of the Silent Star (Sark cape)
just fiind mine tank to you
sorry to ask but which sim profile are we running for m+ build hectic add cleave or dungeon slice?
DS or multi patchwerk both arbitrary but can send you the right way
!update
Updated.
!stealthbreak
Stealth can break from:
- evoker leggo buff (Unbound Surge) dropping
- Essence trinket on buff gain
- Voice of the Silent Star (Sark cape)
- some mistweaver thing related to their statue
mw buggy, as always
let's see how long they survive this time
guys do you know why i cant track my poisons and bleeds on my target anymore?
more infos pls
i cant see my poisons to the enemy bar anymore
Do you have. Weak aura? Plater?
Have you updated?
Please. Have you updated?
ok but did you update
And we’ve tried reloading 
yes hahaha
!wa @steep carbon
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
how can i fix this?
Fix what
lol what's broken about it
For how long?
2 min
you lucky dog you
or i reuse it
Is it on your main aura list next to your minimap?
It’s a delete and redownload angle I fear
Or is it only on your personal resource bar
only my personal bar
Just to confirm you should check again for weakauras addon update, they pushed out full addon updates recently
Multiple updates
just updated the aura but yet not working
guys I've done every single update
And reload the game
but nothing works
Can you see buff and debuffs on the base blizzard Ui?
Or is it just weakauras that are broken?
@weak vessel do you have elvui?
Only wa broken
what is stat priority? cuz some ppl say crit mastery other crit haste im confused
no i dont play with it
depends on what you do
m+
Same questions then, still happens after reloading Ui and Re logging?
go crit mastery then haste
yes yes
yes nothing change
The question was for explicit :p
damn haha
i thought maybe someone knows how to fix it
Do any weakauras work? Is it just enemy debuffs that are broken or can you even open the weakauras menu?
do you wanna join a channel and show you what i mean ?
here you can see me hitting the target but nothing shows up
Your weakauras seem functional? Like what’s wrong with them, rupture and garrote are showing
Plater seems like it has no icons though, I see that
What are you trying to get? Dot tracking on nameplates
yes
Unfortunately my expertise is weakauras so I’m not really sure for plater. I guess did you recently install an update to your plater profile which removed/broke them?
Buff tracking is enabled on plater?
There are like 4 tabs related to buffs in /plater, check around in that
I've never ever touched plater since I downloaded it just doing the usuall updates
Did you download a new profile maybe that doesnt track them automatically?
Where can I find Buff tracking?
I think its literally the name of the tab when you /plater
Im on mobile atm so cant snip it
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
I have been using Ceverions ^ it's very good and helpful
which WA package is this?
Looks like Whispyr’s afenar edit
