assassination

[runic hinge]

[oak lagoon]

ugh i feel like i do no damage in m+, on boss fight too

[vapid skiff]

ye i mean its just better so wcyd

[strange python]

logs ?

[vapid skiff]

learn the shadows

[sullen mural]

U kinda just garrot rupture everything and u do dmg

[oak lagoon]

i didnt do logs i can try one doe

[strange python]

well

what kawai said

[sullen mural]

Its like Affliction warlock without the seed spamm

Dot and chill

[oak lagoon]

i mean i garrot/rupture

mobs its kinda fine

but boss

i do fucking low dmg

[lucid rain]

probably messing up your kb windows

[strange python]

basicly u pull 2 garrots in a 6+ pull , press rupture, fok , rupture , fok , envenom, dm shiv tea fok ct :3 and u deal at least 200k LUL

[sullen mural]

I mean ST is the same as u would do raidwise

[lucid rain]

you should also try to stay above 150 energy in st

no reason not to

except in kb windows obviously

[strange python]

boss dmg is only kb window + normal rotation, keep up the gunfingers with garrote and rupture and spam 4-6 cp envenomy

[oak lagoon]

so basically i do garrot garrot rupture afk? xd

😛

[sullen mural]

Without KB kinda

[strange python]

not realy

[oak lagoon]

im jking

but eee

[stable atlas]

need a mutilate for spatter

[strange python]

yeah

oh yes, i forgot 1 muti for spatter

mb

[slim hamlet]

smh my head spreading misinfo

[sullen mural]

ST should really feel fine esp on tyran where bosses stay alive for a bit for second dm in execute etc

[oak lagoon]

so 2 garrot, 1 rupture

afk

ok

[strange python]

no

[oak lagoon]

xd

[strange python]

st or mt ?

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

[oak lagoon]

XD

mt

[vapid skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

[grave umbra]

how big of difference is just running internal bleeding over caustic?

[sullen mural]

Just play DH smash your buttons and do top dmg no matter what fight

[slim hamlet]

up to an infinite amount

[stable atlas]

dh and bm are for the truly cultivated

[fallen knoll]

In pure st you want internal otherwise it's a crazy diff

[sullen mural]

I feel so fucking envious of my boomkin on council

me as meele trying to dot everything not die to frontals etc

bro is afking in the middle

[grave umbra]

in tyranical, seems prob better to run IB

[sullen mural]

Pressing starfalls

[slim hamlet]

I hate that god awful fight

[sullen mural]

Im over here running a marathon

[slim hamlet]

nah

[stable atlas]

i think theres never a key scenario where u want IB over CS

[slim hamlet]

Why do people think tyranical = its fine to do 0 aoe

[sullen mural]

Mobs still have to die

[fallen knoll]

It's never better to run internal as long as there's 2+ mobs

Just don't

[sullen mural]

Play with a dh and bm in the same key and i'd go full ST aswell

stuff dies before u even finish dotting in tyran fr

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

Simply respec outlaw

[stable atlas]

I dont even DM first pulls when I have dh/high aoe class

[sullen mural]

I mean i enjoy outlaw aswell

problem is when i go outlaw my tanks pull 20 mobs so im useless

[slim hamlet]

havoc players usually too focused on padding useless adds than prio targeting anyways

[vapid skiff]

ragefire go 🅱️rr

[stable atlas]

sub angle

[sullen mural]

I still remember this

[slim hamlet]

Small ele gauntlet throne is their favourite place

[sullen mural]

i go everbloom tank pulls half the dungeon im outlaw

i go everbloom again i play assa my tank stops at the first 3 mobs

i did want to just

[oak tangle]

does anyone have a link to how much loot drops based on raid size?

[vapid skiff]

ez solution play tank

[sullen mural]

Am i the only one thats just awkwardly standing in invis next to the tank waiting for him to pull more to not fuck my IC

[final laurel]

im 5 throne of tides in

no ring

[stable atlas]

my tank sees I'm assa and instantly goes into perma chain pulls mode

[vapid skiff]

no i do that too @sullen mural

[lucid rain]

my dh has like 20% of the playtime of my rogue and is only 5 ilvls behind

[slim hamlet]

if my tank is pulling 3 useless mobs I am standing there looking at him

[lucid rain]

[fallen knoll]

We all do

[sullen mural]

Like im just standing there looking at them

like GO PULL

[final laurel]

nah lowkey facts

[vapid skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/based-gigachad-chad-gif-23901955

[sullen mural]

IM NOT BREAKING MY STELTH

[final laurel]

i will int 3 mobs just to make sure im stealth

[slim hamlet]

or we do a lil trolling and pull with tricks

[sullen mural]

a lil accident

throwqing a shuriken

[vapid skiff]

im not destealthing for 3 useless instadying mobs indeed

[fallen knoll]

Stealth is just too valuable for us to break it for 3 randos

[slim hamlet]

Not happening

nah it would be worth

problem is

99.99% of the time

[sullen mural]

aight glad im doing the right thing

[vapid skiff]

its very worth but like

[slim hamlet]

They do pull more

[sullen mural]

HE CHAINS AFTER IT

[slim hamlet]

but the second your IC is out

[sullen mural]

YEAH

HE ALWAYS DOES

[vapid skiff]

tank shouldnt be pulling 0.5 mobs at a time

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/diesofcringe-gif-24606059

[fallen knoll]

Problem is as soon as you do he chain pulls, everytime

[vapid skiff]

he needs a warmup

[slim hamlet]

Glad we all experience the same thing

[stable atlas]

tank role just isnt very competitive so u get special individuals on it

[sullen mural]

Never take dh tanks

cuz 90% of them are havocs anyways

that just want to get into a key

[slim hamlet]

DH + druid tanks are the only pug tanks I trust

[fallen knoll]

Sometimes I really do feel like they're doing it on purpose just to fuck with us

[vapid skiff]

some might

[slim hamlet]

No one knows how to play with sin rogue yet

[sullen mural]

Imagine the tanks are just watching us while we watch them

[slim hamlet]

chaining 10 sec after instead of insta

[sullen mural]

waiting for us to break stealth

to insta chainpull 30 mobs

[slim hamlet]

putting silence sigil insta instead of using iron wire

and so on

[vapid skiff]

some people seem to have the ego to think they are some like vigilante that should punish people they feel deserve it @fallen knoll

[strange python]

mt , u pop of 2 garrote so 5-6 targets have them, use rupture so u get it on 3 targets, use fok for 4-6 cp and use rupture again for another 3 targets, 1 mutilate for caustik spatter, fok again and envenom once , fok crimson tempest fok envenom and maintain dots like rupture /garrote and crimson. inbetween use envenom , thats the mt rota without cooldowns

[lucid rain]

I've played with a single sin rogue over the entire week I've been playing dh tank

[sullen mural]

It really aint that deep to play with a sin rogue

pull a lot

dont chain

[lucid rain]

kinda weird honestly

[strange python]

@oak lagoon

[slim hamlet]

I have seen like 3-4 other sin rogues

[sullen mural]

I mean everyone that farmed nicks/everbloom trinket has seen some

[slim hamlet]

I think legit all of them was in everbloom

yea

[sullen mural]

I've had more survival hunters than assa rogues tho

thats something

[slim hamlet]

There are a lot of specs I have not seen

[hexed willow]

I’ve seen a couple law/sin rogues

They always go ham

[sullen mural]

I mean we will get nerfed we all know it

[vapid skiff]

ye

[slim hamlet]

Spriest, survival, marksmanship, any dps dk, any warrior, aff/destro lock, fire and arcane mage,

[sullen mural]

rogue feels too good

[earnest remnant]

for some reason every single key i have done apart from 6 dungeons

[slim hamlet]

Legit all of those I haven't seen

[earnest remnant]

there has always been 1 assa rogue

[slim hamlet]

In neither m+ or raid

[vapid skiff]

[sullen mural]

Im an aff player, but just feels too bad to play rn

I love the spec

[slim hamlet]

U switched to sub on those 6?

[hexed willow]

If they nerf the numbers but not the playstyle I’ll be fine

[earnest remnant]

yep 🙂

[slim hamlet]

[vapid skiff]

ive done like 4 troll ass outlaw keys

[hexed willow]

I just don’t want them to nerf how it feels

[sullen mural]

i just hope sub isnt the meta anymore

[vapid skiff]

rest as ass

[sullen mural]

i hate this cringe secret technique shit

[slim hamlet]

I have switched out of sin for a whole 2 minutes this patch

[vapid skiff]

ye i hope its just number nerfs

[slim hamlet]

to check an outlaw wa

[wheat hinge]

hey in the maintain dots part is it worth to maintai with a lot of targets without having access to vanish or sd ie applying them 1 by 1?

[earnest remnant]

whats wrong with secret technique?

[vapid skiff]

ass feels too good

[sullen mural]

Not staying true to his name

wooow

[earnest remnant]

its just an AoE finisher

[slim hamlet]

I got the outlaw role tho

[vapid skiff]

KiR ass onetrick

[split veldt]

bruh, i got 4 set finally, and it gave me like 80k increase in ST and 50k in slice, wtf lmao

[sullen mural]

Yeah i just dont like it no reason

I hope they buff Echoing i love that ability

I wanna use it

[earnest remnant]

yeah no

we cant be friends

sorry

[strange python]

didnt thought about it. but i think yes

[slim hamlet]

Echoing only good on sin

[oak tangle]

i don't join groups with other rogues in them, they want my shit, no bueno

[slim hamlet]

Echoing on sub is cringe

[vapid skiff]

secret technique is giga pog

[earnest remnant]

ER shouldve stayed in SL

[sullen mural]

I just mean overall not spec specific

[vapid skiff]

and ye echo on sub is just wack

[sullen mural]

Yeah on sub i wanted to commit some warcrimes when it was meta in sl

[vapid skiff]

the only nice thing about echo on sub is getting acro for free

[sullen mural]

Ah finnally i got it ah no nvm i randomly gota combopoint

[slim hamlet]

I liked the minigame

[oak tangle]

ER would have been interesting if it wasn't press button and see if you land on a empowered cp otherwise who cares

[slim hamlet]

not much going on for sin outside cds before rework

[sullen mural]

On sin actually usable cuz u autoattack 30000 times and wait for cds anyways

Though outlaw is somewhat fun but my hands jsut hurt after 3 keys

of pressing BTE 500 times

[stable atlas]

weak ah fingers

[slim hamlet]

^

[sullen mural]

I played too much outlaw in s1

But spamming btw feels fun

[slim hamlet]

I got cubital tunnel syndrome from playing sin rogue not outlaw

[vapid skiff]

thats because you get too hyped to press stuff not because its needed tho

[slim hamlet]

Maybe

Just dumbass pressing my elbow too hard down

[vapid skiff]

but also some plate chasing stress makes it easy to go press fast and hard mode

[earnest remnant]

Weak humans

[stable atlas]

get an extra key you can activate by biting on it so u save finger stamina

[slim hamlet]

I got the most optimized keybinds in the west

[sullen mural]

cap

[slim hamlet]

I would implode if I had to spam 1-3 like you normies

[sullen mural]

bro is pressing qwer

[hexed willow]

Honestly I think I’d like sub if I could understand the combo points better

[slim hamlet]

E and Q for most used + modifiers

[sullen mural]

e is shiv and q shadowstep for me

[slim hamlet]

R, f, c, x for something u gotta press fast

[sullen mural]

[slim hamlet]

1-5 for special occasion

[stable atlas]

same, on every spec e+q are my main spammers

[gentle badger]

Does the human racial work with timestrike?

like amp it

[hexed willow]

That is the way

[sullen mural]

[eternal heath]

Feel like I griefed that 18 AD lol

[slim hamlet]

What does that mean

[stable atlas]

looks more like DH grief

[keen spruce]

AoE is
w, w, w, shift+w, shift+F, shift+w, q, shift+f, shift+e

[sullen mural]

dh 118 in m+

??

[slim hamlet]

Human racial is a stun "release", timstrike is a dmg proc

[eternal heath]

Only did 105k on Rezan because I thought I could cloak pursuit

[gentle badger]

human racial makes secondary stats +2%

[vapid skiff]

i mean thats like a good aug @sullen mural

[gentle badger]

thats not the only racial

[eternal heath]

Waited to use my fat opener until after the visage

[slim hamlet]

Oh timestrike aint a secondary stat

[eternal heath]

Then got pursuited immediately

[sullen mural]

Never taking an aug in my keys again

that class does nothing in my keys

[vapid skiff]

[keen spruce]

okay so next time u evasion

[eternal heath]

Yeah I am avoiding aug now

[keen spruce]

but the time after that

[eternal heath]

Feels useless

[vapid skiff]

WTS aug

delete them

[stable atlas]

I can relate, my evoker healer always thinks its a blast to rescue me into pursuit

[keen spruce]

you realize it doesn't target the closest target

and you stand under his butt and never get pursued

[eternal heath]

orly

Also does evasion work?

[keen spruce]

i have no idea

but try anyways

[eternal heath]

[haughty flicker]

dont say this too loud

[slim hamlet]

Augs are either bad (99.99% of them) and do nothing, or good and do barely anything

[keen spruce]

[haughty flicker]

i dont want the other melee in my group learning

[slim hamlet]

A bad aug unironically makes me do less dmg

[vapid skiff]

true

[stable atlas]

watch them nerf CS to the ground 2 weeks after rwf

[slim hamlet]

Because my brain explodes WHEN THEY SEND CD ON GAUNTLET IN THRONE

AND DON'T USE A SINGLE CD WITH THE REST OF US

[hexed willow]

Why does that happen?

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/ree-pepe-triggered-angry-ahhhh-gif-13627544

[hexed willow]

Cause that’s what I always did without knowing it

[keen spruce]

I think the ability just targets based on distance

[sullen mural]

[keen spruce]

idk if it's furthest

[earnest remnant]

goes on the furthest

[eternal heath]

classic

[keen spruce]

okay ye

[earnest remnant]

you used to cheese it with hunters / rogues in bfa

[eternal heath]

The bm hunter must have been on top of it

[keen spruce]

oh yeah you can vanish it

[earnest remnant]

feign, vanish, invis

cancels it

[keen spruce]

or meld or ye

those things

[slim hamlet]

I was gonna test this next time I got fixated

[reef oxide]

hey is it normal to drop envenom chains when outside of your cds? i find that when ever I have to reapply rupture the chain drops

[sullen mural]

fuck i should have not said it

[haughty flicker]

yeah i learned the hard way

[reef oxide]

or begins to

[balmy condor]

Yeah but you can hit him while he’s gobbling your meat, so does that devalue acro then? Full uptime on boss

[slim hamlet]

You can't do it anymore?

[slim hamlet]

While he is what?

[haughty flicker]

just get boped

ez

[balmy condor]

While who is what

[earnest remnant]

yeh you cant

can*

sry

[slim hamlet]

Poggies

Gonna maybe possibly once use that

[oak tangle]

yew did a perfect kb window, with all crits, on the dummy 3 mil total

[earnest remnant]

you used to rotate hunter and outlaw rogue

alternate the fixates

[waxen oyster]

so uhh

sudden demise on bursting week

with lower keys

[vapid skiff]

based

[haughty flicker]

yeah its fun

tank pulls hallway in brh

they all get sd procced

you kill the mobs and your party

[somber fractal]

can i macro kingsbane into shadowdance or will that make it not get nightstalker? anyone know for sure?

[waxen oyster]

i love being a dwarf

[haughty flicker]

just cloak 4head

[haughty flicker]

you can, just make sure shadow dance is first

[sullen mural]

Cloak and watch them all di

[slim hamlet]

Peasants all of em

[sullen mural]

Until they all ran back u have cloak up for next pull

ggez

[icy viper]

does ashes sim correctly? looks like it sims worse than i expected

[fading patrol]

Yes same idk

What’s the best trinket combos with no branch I hate it lol

[slim hamlet]

Do u have an on use already?

[sullen mural]

yeah branch is so whack

[earnest remnant]

Ashes is like 1.2k dps lower than branch

[slim hamlet]

If yes, does that take the non on use trinkets spot

[icy viper]

oh so with branch you would never use ashes

[earnest remnant]

you could just play it

[slim hamlet]

Nah

[sullen mural]

2 onuses are kinda grief

[slim hamlet]

Not unless your other option is doggy

[icy viper]

got it

ty

[sullen mural]

Or casters sometimes use 2 onuse

speaking of onuse trinkets i miss grieftorch

[reef oxide]

after cds are down i find that when ever I have to reapply rupture my envenom chains begin to drop is that normal?

[vapid skiff]

yes because the combo points are spent on rupture instead of envenom

[slim hamlet]

U can use a 5+cp before the rupture

[thorny pond]

By the time you reapply rupture it’s about time to pool for next KB window so it has a nice flow

[fading patrol]

The problem with branch is I can’t even see the orbs in raid

[slim hamlet]

And try to not use garrote when building to the rupture as it will take an extra gcd usually

[fading patrol]

There’s like 10 people doing it at the same time

[thorny pond]

Just stand there and let them come my son

[cinder geode]

during KB and DM windows, do you envenom as soon as you hit 4+ CP or to keep the buff running

[fading patrol]

It’s not better to take them fast?

[thorny pond]

You can try to but like don’t int your raid by not doing mechanics

The loss from suboptimal timings isn’t that large

[slim hamlet]

Just turn down other people spells to essentiel for raid

[fading patrol]

I dis you still see their trinket

[thorny pond]

If the boss has a 4090, you gotta let him cook

Go stand in a field and press the trinket a few times to see the orb spawns

Then just like picture that in raid and go get your first two

Last one can come naturally

[fading patrol]

Yea it’s just so weird you do karate shit with your arms too idk it’s whack

[sullen mural]

i mean ideal way to play is picking up 2 and last one at the end anyways right

[thorny pond]

Not really there’s the 1/1/7 that’s preached around here and that’s pretty good timing but again, the loss from non optimal isn’t some game breaking difference

[slate crown]

Yeah just have 3 stacks over the end of kb

[fading patrol]

Do you cast it right at pull then doing Rota?

[thorny pond]

It’s not stopped me from 99 parsing at all just standing there and letting them hit me.

[sullen mural]

Could have been 100-

[thorny pond]

Could be but I suck

[sullen mural]

We all do

[thorny pond]

Cast with DM

[vapid skiff]

[thorny pond]

I play outlaw keys so when I raid I have to really focus on pooling and methodical pooling practices. I’m not going to mini game orbs

[sullen mural]

tldr just get mythic ashes

[solid mica]

when we pop branch?

[sullen mural]

he just said it

[thorny pond]

With DM

[vapid skiff]

on death mark

[solid mica]

word and just minmax the orb i take it?

[solid mica]

one by one?

[thorny pond]

1/1/7

[vapid skiff]

10/10

[sullen mural]

Just have 3 stacks at the last ticks of KB

thats basicly

[thorny pond]

Or just let the sack of shits hit you whenever

[oak tangle]

i spent more time making that paint than i have thinking about orbs

[thorny pond]

Missing shiv to chase balls is a bigger loss than missing an orb or chasing your friends

[wispy quail]

So in M+, if I open Garrote Garrote and already have SnD up. Do I just rupture?

[thorny pond]

Yep!

[sullen mural]

And then u fok rupture again!

[thorny pond]

If your tank pulls real packs

[wispy quail]

ok cool! then FoK to Mutilate to start spatter?

[sullen mural]

Yes

[reef oxide]

do you guys like taking IC during the council of dreams fight?

[oak tangle]

my tank doesn't get a choice, bliz gave me tricks and evasion for a reason

[sullen mural]

yes

[thorny pond]

No

[wispy quail]

Perfect, thanks so much.

[sullen mural]

Im gonna be deadsick everytime we do council mythic so its fine doesnt matter what i play

i might have internet problems on that boss

[reef oxide]

yeah its not fun

[thorny pond]

You can play splatter ST or the SBS build splatter

[sullen mural]

IC splatter is what felt the "best" on that piece of shit for me

[thorny pond]

I mean you can take IC but it’s gonna be rare to not have to chase down one

Just easier to treat it as two target cleave

[reef oxide]

yeah they arent stcked often

[sullen mural]

Meanwhile watching my boomkin afk in middle of the room starfalling

[thorny pond]

Pip will just fuck off and hump flowers

Then IC is worthless

[hushed barn]

yo, how do you do good dps on the three witches boss, im pulling miserable numbers vs them

is the demise build the way to go for waycrest?

[sullen mural]

its kinda the way to go for every key unless u play with havoc+bm or some insane burst

[reef oxide]

pretty sure you take demise in all keys

[thorny pond]

Just try to keep bleeds up as best you can or focus prio. I usually just bleed the main one and then the next one up

FoK randomly for poison applications. Idk it’s one boss

[sullen mural]

Tbh everytime i ran waycrest

everyone pulls bad numbers

cuz the target change just sucks

[oak tangle]

just an L boss

[wispy quail]

Always 4+CP Envenom before popping Deathmark/Shiv/KD/Dance?

[sullen mural]

Downtime aswell

[thorny pond]

Worst council fight

[thorny pond]

Always

[wispy quail]

👍🏽

[grim tangle]

I think council is pretty fun

IC definitely the play

[oak tangle]

5 or more for that case, you'll have envenom drop otherwise

[wispy quail]

Oh, word. Thx!

[reef oxide]

has anyone had good results with bone spike on council?

[thorny pond]

Few people here have. WCL has some top 100 parses on heroic to peak at

[sullen mural]

Just take a frontal and go take a piss on that boss say u lagged

Thats the best build

[runic hinge]

Based

[thorny pond]

The fight itself is a first boss of the wing difficult. Just play ST and follow around the bear keeping up two sets of bleeds

I’ve got porn to watch and Jimmy John’s to eat

[green apex]

Perfect boner boss

I mean bone spike

[thorny pond]

Not gonna shadow step and sprint to maintain bleeds everywhere

It also doesn’t drop a dagger but the dumb shit outlaw havoc weapon so let them have your spot

[green apex]

We've had 4 heroic dream daggers drop on 2 kills (1,3)

Why unique 😦

[sullen mural]

Suprised outlaw is that bad on that fight

[reef oxide]

im not

you cant cleave

[thorny pond]

People playing rogue are playing fotm sin

[sullen mural]

i mean u have 2 target cleave if your tanks arent perma griefing

[thorny pond]

So OL is suffering from lack of tier still too

[reef oxide]

maybe mine are

[thorny pond]

Out of the 3 rogue specs, sin opened up the season best suited without new tier

[sullen mural]

AND their tier is insane

[thorny pond]

And either liquid running two sins for world first, it got more exposures

So people who were on the fence hopped on sin

[reef oxide]

i feel like alot of rogue players were just waiting for sin to be playable again

[shut owl]

going from 800 parses to compete against weekly to 8000. what a time to be alive

[thorny pond]

Go back a few days and look at sin and sub channel when they swapped for smoldering, all hell broke loose

[reef oxide]

it fits the rogue thematic the best imo

[sullen mural]

rework helped alot

[shut owl]

all three specs fit some kinda rogue theme imo

[reef oxide]

agree

when i think rogue i think double daggers

[sullen mural]

Witht eh current outlaw gameplay

[reef oxide]

so outlaw is kinda strange to me

[sullen mural]

i'd like to equip a gun over a mace or smth

would do more dmg prob

[shut owl]

never played tabletops where a rogue shows up and concusses a dragon to death with a belaying pin turned truncheon eh?

[wispy quail]

Sorry for the basic questions, but I appreciate the help here tonight. Trying to nail a few things down and practice the front half of the opener.

I'm going through the FoKs and just realized that the combo point generation is based off seal fate and crits, so it is inconsistent. In these FoK openers I'm always trying to aim for 4 or 5+ CP? In either case, I just spam it until I hit the proper amount of combo points?

[reef oxide]

if you spawn FoK on low target counts you will energy starve yourself

spam*

[wispy quail]

Is there are target count threshold then when you move to FoK?

[reef oxide]

i think technically 3

[shut owl]

3+

[wispy quail]

kk

[sullen mural]

in aoe its just whack rng point stuff

you dont have to 5+ cp rupture every mob

most of them dont live that long anyways

[shut owl]

where are you fanning in opener? cuz there's a lotta plates to set up before fan spam usually

[sullen mural]

Its good for demise ofc

[wispy quail]

thats what I've been finding in these keys thus far

[sullen mural]

If i land on like 3 cp's with fan i multilate

to keep caustic up

[wispy quail]

It says it after SnD and then after the first mutilate.

[wispy quail]

Thats a good call. makes sense

[next dust]

hey guys, how is the current healing potion named in s3?

[wispy quail]

Thx for all the help tonight! Happy Thanksgiving!

[velvet ridge]

@keen spruce HOW did you time a 23 tryannical ToT

[reef oxide]

Does anyone else feel like they get energy starved more when playing the DTB build in keys?

[shut owl]

I do; been preferring AP/Bs build

[reef oxide]

sorry what does AP/Bs mean?

[shut owl]

art precision/ blindside

[reef oxide]

ah

yeah thats what i usually run

the free casts of ambush are huge

[sullen mural]

didnt play with blindside yet maybe its time

always played free shiv cuz i can so far

[velvet ridge]

i swapped to blindside from DTB, my god i love it so much more

[shut owl]

it feels like raid, but with two fewer passive poisons and no bombs 😛

[junior aurora]

dont gotta rely on things standing still

[sullen mural]

i love blindside in raid esp when execute phase

[coral sierra]

i sim 90k more than outlaw for 1min 5 target, is sin better than outlaw mythic+ or does outlaw perform better overall for dungeon?

[keen spruce]

i joined a group

[sullen mural]

so many procs

[keen spruce]

and we stabbed things

[velvet ridge]

makes sense

[junior aurora]

1 min is entirely in sin's cds

[balmy condor]

Burst spec does more burst

Seems reasonable

[coral sierra]

ah

[keen spruce]

our healer was in shambles on the third boss

every dot tick was like 70% of your health

lol

[velvet ridge]

i was thinking the first boss TEmpest thingy

[sullen mural]

Depends on tank, if he perma pulls ~8 targets outlaw pumps, if more assa pulls ahead

[keen spruce]

yeah that was pretty gross

but we got lucky with who got targetted

2nd boss is kind of a joke

we just cleared the whole room

so we had space for activities

[junior aurora]

last boss in throne with someone who doesn't know what they're doing is still miserable

[keen spruce]

can be

but if people stack with the hoses

it's very ez

[junior aurora]

also 3rd boss when your tank doesn't realize whats about to happen to them

[keen spruce]

to clear like 6-7 puddles

[sullen mural]

i loved watching people die to last boss of fall

when i farmed my dagger

[keen spruce]

even when u fuck up

[junior aurora]

shmeeps that would be people that know what they're doing

in my experience some people just get the hose and stand still

[velvet ridge]

in my experiecne if you rub the lotion on this skin

youll get the hose again

[keen spruce]

well those people probably aren't gettin invited to 23s i hope

that's the trick. u play like a degenerate for the first few days

get ahead of the pack

[velvet ridge]

the dam 1 percenters

[keen spruce]

and just ride that wave

of free invites

and mostly decent players lol

[next dust]

ty sir

[sage cargo]

How are you guys doing ST in utility build

Jesus christ I never have energy man

[junior aurora]

you dont fill every global in this spec

there's a lot of pooling

without vigor/tea gonna be even more pooling

[sage cargo]

There's basically no envenom spamming is there?

except for in SD / KB window

[junior aurora]

you spam outside

you get to 80% energy and then chain envenoms to 0

[rotund oak]

with 4set u dont care about energy when u are building cps

u pool for envenoms

[sage cargo]

I'm confused. Don't we wanna fit as many envenoms inside of KB as possible?

[rotund oak]

and most likely u finish some times at 4cps

[junior aurora]

you spam inside window too

you want to fill every global in KB

outside of KB you pool to 80 and then chain envenoms until you can't and then repeat

80% energy

[sage cargo]

But the way we pool is by doing the standard build -> sit until envenom runs out -> finish ye?

and then when we cant, repeat?

(by pooling to 80% as you say)

[uneven bronze]

i dont get that tho, when you build 4 points for instance, you sit and do nothing until a certain amount of energy so you can envenom or?

[junior aurora]

you dont want envenom to run out but yeah

you want to envenom while the envenom buff is still up to get the 4p benefit

[rotund oak]

it depends but in general ye,since u are not overcapping energy u dont lose dps

u dont wanna let buff fall from 2p

[finite mountain]

i read a lot about that assa will be stronger then outlaw ?!?! what do you think 😮

[cerulean nest]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[sage cargo]

When do we use branch in opener?

[clever sapphire]

With dm

[mighty nexus]

W DM, 1/1/7

[sage cargo]

Do I apply garrotes / rupture from stealth -> go?

[torn peak]

https://youtu.be/ta8o29ufDug

[rotund oak]

macro with deathmark

[uneven bronze]

I've been practicing on target dummies just to get the hang of it, but when i get low on energy i just feel stupid not pressing a button, how much do we pool to before chaining envenoms and when do we let a chain drop to start chaining again?

[earnest remnant]

its all about having as much Envenom buff uptime as possible to maximize 4p dmg

[sage cargo]

What does 1/1/7 mean? sorry. I'm all new to sin.

[clever sapphire]

Seconds at which you pick up branch orbs

[mighty nexus]

Pick up 2 orbs immediately, wait 7 sec for the last

Most people just let the last one come to them rather than going to get it

[sage cargo]

ah shit. That sounds complicated lmao

do I just DM first or witherbark in the macro?

[mighty nexus]

It’s literally the easiest thing lol, just strafe left, strafe right, chill

[slate crown]

doesn't matter

[clever sapphire]

Go front left, 3 steps to the right, behind the boss, last ball is gonna reach you anywhere between 5-7 seconds. Not hard

[uneven bronze]

but when you run out of energy to have big uptime, and you pool, how much do you pool to? i feel like sitting there and doing nothing makes me an idiot XD is sin really dependent on big cd's to deal damage sso missing a few globals aint a big deal?

[earnest remnant]

80%

and then you restart the envenom chain

during cds

[slate crown]

Settle into that feeling. It is ok to relax

[earnest remnant]

you just SLAM

[slate crown]

Take the time to look at the raid frames, look at the floor, pay attention to the fight

[uneven bronze]

i currently play outlaw and just slam buttons like crazy and i feel soo bad not pressing a button because im constantly thinking "Im losing dps"

[sage cargo]

I got everbranch in like 3 keys. Still haven't gotten my'das from AD, so I suppose i'm a sin main now

[uneven bronze]

and i used to play SP last season so i always had something to press too xd

[mighty nexus]

I usually swipe through tinder in between KB windows personally

[uneven bronze]

ah so if i cant maintain a chain, i drop everything, pool to 80% and then i start mutilate/envenoming again until i cant keep it up any longer? and i drink tea's when i wont overcap energy from what i gather as well, and always keep one charge fooor Kingsbane

[earnest remnant]

yup

[uneven bronze]

damn okay

[slate crown]

You can mutilate right away

but yes, hold off on spending on envenom

[uneven bronze]

that soundsn a bit simpler than i thought

[earnest remnant]

its very simple

[slate crown]

you should build up the CPs you need early

[uneven bronze]

ah so i get combo poiunts but i pool energy

[slate crown]

But then chill before spending

yes

[uneven bronze]

this sounds a bit like arcane mage ngl the way you use 2 skills outside of cooldowns

but thanks for the explanation to everyone 😄

[mighty nexus]

Once you get the hang of managing your bleeds and stuff, you’ll pick it up fast. Dw

[earnest remnant]

it actually plays alot like arcane and its resource management

[uneven bronze]

ah thats something else i wanted to ask for, when im outside of cooldowns and i do not have Dance/Vanish, do i just dump a garrote and a rupture on ST to maintain the uptime?

[rotund oak]

Btw Stealthi = probably the most mechanically potent rogue since ramfam(in case u ppl wonder who stealthi is) if u want some real rogue action with no mistakes check his stream

[uneven bronze]

yeah i played a bit of arcane mage and it looked so hard at the beginning but when i got the hang of it a little bit it was a lot easier than expected

[earnest remnant]

keep up bleeds at all times, and try to maintain envenom buff for as long as possible without it dropping

thats the gameplay loop essentially

[vernal adder]

Sounds like legion sin kinda

[rotund oak]

its very similar yes

but more pumpy

[mighty nexus]

Idk if you’ve watched Whispyrs videos on pooling and stuff yet, but I’d definitely suggest it. It’s super helpful

[uneven bronze]

so its not a problem to have a non empowered garrote on the target and i should maintain it even if it is not empowered, and i rupture at max combo points or at 4+ like with envenoms

[reef oxide]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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Pooling Practice Tool

[sage cargo]

You use anything but rupture on mouseover?

[rotund oak]

u want it empowered when u press cds since u ''exhale'' in those windows

[uneven bronze]

i watched it, i watched all of his videos, but sometimes i need it dumbed down as much as possible and even though i understood some of what he is saying, me asking questions helps me a bit so it can get basically dumbed down to me in a way id understand it

[rotund oak]

or at least thats what im getting from when i press dance and refresh my garrote

[uneven bronze]

thats why we garrote after SD and Vanish i assume

[torn peak]

does anyone know what is this addon? i assume this shows extra stats youve gotten that you dont benefit

[sage cargo]

Is garrote your first GCD in dance then?

[grim jay]

Just use whats convenient for you. Mouseovers are in no way a must or something that automatically makes you better

[rotund oak]

[uneven bronze]

thanks for the help guys, ill try to whip it out in raid later today maybe 😄

[rotund oak]

should check the wowhead guide brother,it will help

[grim jay]

Its useless and you shouldnt care about it

[solid void]

Exactly

[mighty nexus]

For sure, nothing wrong with that! Honestly, first day I started playing sin, I pulled up the wowhead guide and just slammed my face into a target dummy for like 6 hours and it’s all gucci from there

[torn peak]

what if i have buncha stats that i could split between others

[grim jay]

You dont

You just sim your char

[torn peak]

cause i follow wowhead guide?

[grim jay]

And take whats best

[earnest remnant]

i have pov's from the raid playing assa, could check out volcoross

[river cipher]

First rogue spec to hit 3k ended up being assassination thats wild

Truly the Golden age

[grim jay]

Well who was it? Zerocool?

They were pushing really early

[river cipher]

I think so. Dont remember name

[solid void]

The ST rotation is pretty straightforward imo. M+ becomes more tricky with extra dots to manage and having to multi target if bleeds drop off

[uneven bronze]

ive been slamming dummies, but it took me awhile to just get the opener down properly, and when im not sure and i ask someone it helps a lot when its explained because somethings can probably be inferred from the guides and the videos from Whispyr, but when i dont understand the spec because ive never played it i cant properly understand the guides at their fullest (atleast thats how i am) so asking helps a lot, thank you

[uneven bronze]

you have those on youtube so i can look them up?

[river cipher]

M+ is tricky just because you need to debate whether sniping a low mob with 6 cp rupture is worth it for energy or not

[earnest remnant]

yep

[uneven bronze]

just stealthi on youtube?

[earnest remnant]

yeah

[uneven bronze]

okay thanks for all the tips as well, ill look up your video and probably look at a bit more logs as well so i can get the hang of it

cheers

[torn peak]

you completely ignore pooling in raid and always pool while maintaining dots on boss in keys right

@earnest remnant can you link it when i look up d4 ||bad|| and bg3 videos shows up

[junior aurora]

you dont ignore pooling in raid

it just tends to take a long time before you have to start pooling

[lucid silo]

98 parse on 21 BRH

[grim jay]

M+ parses

[rotund oak]

parsin in m+

[torn peak]

so i should still avoid extra muti-envenom spam and stay above 150 as much as possible?

[strange trail]

True stat value

[lucid silo]

hey i didnt turn on parse

[earnest remnant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh5r0Ei_6ZA

[junior aurora]

no you still envenom to 0

[viral apex]

does anyone else misses their kingsbane

[robust axle]

What talent buld have you guys been running with in dungeons as Assasination?

[solid void]

Probably a dumb question, but on pooling: if all dots are running, is there any value in spending energy at all? Or do I just wait until one hits pandemic and then I reapply? There is no direct damage in most of the skills right, it's only the dot component that hits?

[viral apex]

When they macro with shadowdance?

[torn peak]

im confused

[lucid silo]

if im not paying attention once or twice

[junior aurora]

watch whispyrs videos

they'll prob help more than i can

[viral apex]

Yeah its super annoying

[torn peak]

you say you do pooling then envenom to 0

now ill think about it way more than usual

[junior aurora]

you get to 80% energy

then you envenom down to 0

then you go back to 80% energy

[torn peak]

is that for 4pc

[junior aurora]

yes

but you can play that way withuot 4pc

[torn peak]

now makes sense

im 2 piece

so its doable?

[junior snow]

Yes

[torn peak]

okay thanks

[sage cargo]

Do you guys keep up CT in ST as well?

[junior aurora]

no

[runic hinge]

No

[uneven bronze]

i notice that you sometimes sit on 4+ cp for 1-2 seconds before envenoming, is that you pooling in a way during the envenom chains? or are you pressing a button im not seeing or are you waiting for the last second of envenom to reenvenom

[junior snow]

That’s how your meant to do it

[sage cargo]

it's waiting for last second of envenom to reenvenom

Anyone in here have a caustic splatter WA?

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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Pooling Practice Tool

[uneven bronze]

so you dont press anything during that time unless you have to reapply a garrote/ruptuyre, you just chill a bit and press envenom when you have to if im understanding corretly

[pure sinew]

Do I need mutilate in my stealth bars

[junior snow]

It’s like Fisk said you want to reapply Envenom at the last second

[pure sinew]

Or can it just be ambush

[junior snow]

But pretty much yeah

[dusk palm]

Is sin bad in low keys

I’ve been doing 18-20 as outlaw. I’d like to try sin but worried everything will die before I open

[mighty nexus]

That do be happening

I wouldn’t say it’s bad though, just doesn’t shine till like 16ish

[lucid silo]

its not too bad

you get kinda addicted to sudden demise procs

[vagrant moon]

Sin kings rise up

We’re meta

[dusk palm]

I watched Dorki group with a liquid guy who pulled 400k overall going into last boss of 25 AD and I got curious

[mighty nexus]

• all the utility sin has in m+

[dusk palm]

I’m hitting like half that as outlaw on my good keys

[reef oxide]

does anyone here use Ceverion's plater? All of a sudden it just stopped working for me

[vagrant moon]

I went sin from outlaw don’t regret it 1 bit

I love outlaw tho

[mighty nexus]

I think they both have their uses where ones better than the other, but I can’t lie, sin pumps rn

[lucid silo]

i didnt really like outlaw

[dusk palm]

Outlaw got a lot better with 4pc

[lucid silo]

too many maintanence buffs

[vagrant moon]

I love every rogue spec I just play whatever feels nice

[mighty nexus]

Ye, I’d rather toasterbath than play law without 4p

[vagrant moon]

I’ve never played sin in m+ so this is a nice change

[dusk palm]

You never need to press SND and have like 90% AR uptime and 3 RTB. I just wanna be able to blast bosses too

[rotund oak]

outlaw is buttery smooth with 4p

[lucid silo]

im still salty we lost combat rogue

[vagrant moon]

Nah outlaw is way better

[lucid silo]

if you deleted RTB i might agree with you

[vagrant moon]

Combat man go play some wrath it’ll make you realize outlaw is so much better

[dusk palm]

New RTB is consistent

AR gives 3+ buffs with extension and you can almost always AR RTB again before expiration

[vagrant moon]

Ye I only have 2 piece rn big reason why I’m sin for some keys

Prob will try outlaw again with 4p

[mighty nexus]

4p sin feels great too

[vagrant moon]

I just play every spec

[river cipher]

Sub***

[vagrant moon]

Might bust out some sub for spiteful week

Kekw

[mighty nexus]

I’m being forced to not play law it’s impossible with 140 ping

I fire off 3 BtEs and my subter window is already over

[surreal citrus]

same bro

!upgrade

!track

[mighty nexus]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486284970806083584/1165033412827037806/image.png

[surreal citrus]

ty

[mighty nexus]

Got you dawg

[loud creek]

Im able to get 2 piece with catalyst + ksm thingy, is the 2p worth it or should i hope i get 2p during raid tonight?

[mighty nexus]

2p2p is solid

Sim’d better for me than old 4p

[loud creek]

Okay, ill sim it

[subtle tundra]

you dont really want to use catalyst and ksm token

until you have 2p

[leaden bloom]

Best way to deal with the soul thorns ability on the Soulbound Goliath in Waycrest Manor as a rogue?

[balmy condor]

Scream really loud in discord for your group to dps it

[keen spruce]

BE HOOMAN

caps

[leaden bloom]

why do mages get to blink out of it >.<

[keen spruce]

sry

[grim robin]

put on the most flashy tmog you have cosplaying a lighthouse and hope they will notice you

[balmy condor]

You can pre-cloak it im pretty sure

[leaden bloom]

i tried 😦

[balmy condor]

But also you don’t know who it’s going on

So it’s a gamble

And you probably wanna cloak for the fire

So

[subtle tundra]

feint is good for the fire too so its prob fine

[balmy condor]

Just ends up being idk, run elusiveness and pre-feint every single one

And then scream really loud

[leaden bloom]

thats an idea

thx

[grim jay]

@balmy condor do you already have a favorite between AP and Hybrid this week? Kinda feel like AP does better with the weak packs

[eternal heath]

I feel like my cheat death gets procced a lot lol

[grim jay]

And the execute on bosses

[balmy condor]

Still can’t notice a difference

Bloodmallet says all the shits the same too

Play whatever

Who cares

[subtle tundra]

probably gonna end up playing dtb in a dungeon with good prio targets and ap everywhere else

still dont know which that would be, galakrond prison aint over

[lucid silo]

no change with 4set either?

[grim jay]

Yeah roughly I guess. All the m+ juicers ive seen still stick to hybrid

[balmy condor]

4 set is 4 set

Nothin to do with talents

[lucid silo]

sudden demise bursting is fun

accidentally wiped my group once or twice

then i stopped being a mango

[balmy condor]

Yeah that’s a fun one

If you look at bloodmallet there’s a build on there for 3 target hybrid that doesn’t take sudden demise

It’s like a giga scuffed raid build

That shit probably fine too

[gaunt sigil]

Oh

Like what I do?

[balmy condor]

All the numbers look the same man idk

Who cares what you talent

[balmy condor]

Okay not that

[oak tangle]

"accidentally"

[balmy condor]

Idk what that is

But it’s something

[gaunt sigil]

This lies I don’t take zoldyc I take iron wire

[odd dew]

is 13% haster pretty low

not sure what i should be aiming for

[slim pebble]

Just ran a rise and the Hourglass trinkent went to the shaman doing below tank dps

[odd dew]

i know mastery is kidna king right

[lucid silo]

rise drops the mirror

[balmy condor]

Should be aiming for whatever the sim says you should get

[gaunt sigil]

It was a “solution” to our group having dog water st and sudden demise causing 8 stacks in a +20 wiping us a bunch in everbloom

[slim pebble]

Whoops

[balmy condor]

[grim jay]

Its pretty similar to what fuu has on his sheet for DS actually and simwise its pretty good

[gaunt sigil]

It was awful I tell you what

[balmy condor]

do not

[gaunt sigil]

The aoe was nonexistent but the st felt very close to raid

Aoe was just CT and spatter

[balmy condor]

This is why im trying to get away from dslice man fuck

So cursed

Actual troll talents

[gaunt sigil]

I didnt SIM this build at all lmao

I guarantee it’s awful

[lucid silo]

all kneel at your prophet dslice

[gaunt sigil]

And I wouldn’t recommend running it

[balmy condor]

Maybe tonight is coding night

Could be the move

[lucid silo]

you dont need to drop sudden demise you just need to pay attention

[gaunt sigil]

It’s was a very scuffed bandaid issue to a very specific group and dungeon

[neat horizon]

what makes DTB build give bigger KB windows?

[grim jay]

I mean I got dragged into trying. Its not awful, just less aoe and utility. Can probably pull it off if you really want to

[neat horizon]

im still kind of an assa noob

[balmy condor]

More poisons

[grim jay]

But ye its kinda cursed

[neat horizon]

Oh yeah makes sense

[balmy condor]

It’s not awful, just awful

[neat horizon]

AP build is probably less ramp up time

[grim jay]

I felt like it does better with the fast dying packs but it was pretty much the same overall as hybrid

[spring socket]

!wa

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Pooling Practice Tool

[gaunt sigil]

I finally got my 4pc today though

That was nice

[strange python]

got the 2k io token. Was wondering if I should break the 2 set from s2 (since super low ilvl 450) or replace 2 467 ilvl pieces with catalyst and the token so I can use both 2 sets.

[balmy condor]

Dear god man the fuck is this

[gaunt sigil]

Ok that’s even more scuffed than mine no?

[burnt venture]

it's probably viable too 😄

[balmy condor]

Ain’t no way you’re actually taking dashing over AP get the fuck out of here

[grim jay]

Dunno I feel like its a waste to use both cata and token straight away

[burnt venture]

everything viable all the time everywhere

[balmy condor]

I mean true but also lmao

[strange python]

save and be patient is another option I suppose. good call

[balmy condor]

What a scuffed fucking build

[burnt venture]

It's actually wild we have so many diff options tbh

crazy

[grim jay]

Did you sim something or took a screenshot of the sheet?

[balmy condor]

I took a screenshot of the sheet

[torn peak]

this is from 1:23 minute long dummy fight with m+ spec where i tried to hit %80 energy and make it 0 by envenom > mutilate after i do my burst

[balmy condor]

Need to delete it off my phone though it’s like a virus

[surreal spear]

Ive been hard farming Nick of time

And in a 83 second fight its 46k? 🙂

🙂 🙂

[balmy condor]

What

I mean that’s still 500 dps

That’s the low end of the dagger

But yeah

[burnt venture]

yeah seems low from what I've seen

probs bad rng procs or somethign? idk

[surreal spear]

Ill have to focus on other stuff before the 500 dps increase then

[balmy condor]

It’s typically around 1% dps per dagger

[torn peak]

can someone do like 2-3 minute st dummy fight and send me logs if possible

im trying to figure how im fucking up st

[runic hinge]

No iron wire is hard int

[balmy condor]

Yeah I mean the minute you take iron wire on that build the entire thing falls apart

[grim jay]

Id love to see you play a key with it

[balmy condor]

This chain is 8 points

[runic hinge]

Yeah, I was trying to figure out what youd drop to get it and you just can't really

[balmy condor]

You take iron wire the entire build collapses lmao

It’s actually just impossible to take iron wire

[grim jay]

Cant you remove 1 zoldyck for IW

[balmy condor]

You’d remove dashing for it but yeah

But then you’re taking 9/10 in the lower half

And arguing that the chain is better than like, arterial

Which it’s not

So

Idk

The whole build is fucking awful

[grim jay]

Oh yeah dashing

[balmy condor]

Actually unplayable

[grim jay]

Play it for us

[keen spruce]

this build upsets me

[balmy condor]

Fuck no I’d rather kill myself are you kidding

I wouldn’t wish that build on my worst enemy

[keen spruce]

it would only be worse

[finite mountain]

holy, where you found such builds ?:oooo

[keen spruce]

if they squeeze doomblade in there

[runic hinge]

Yeah, idk why take all 8 of those points and then just not take AP

[balmy condor]

Highest simming on fuu’s sheet apparently lmao

[wet agate]

Anyone mind looking over a log for me to see what I can improve on?

[grim jay]

I think it would "play" just fine, but idk about the results

[surreal spear]

Btw might not be something anyone here knows the answer to, but does anyone know why warcraftlogs doesnt log raids but works fine on m+? When having "live logs"

[finite mountain]

LOL

[grim jay]

[balmy condor]

If you ever see a human playing that

Ping them so I can ban them

[grim jay]

Dang I was just about to bite the bullet for the fam

[balmy condor]

Don’t actually

But Jesus fuck

[grim jay]

But now I cant

[subtle tundra]

love from romania

[balmy condor]

I need to visit

Many Romanian friends

That I must give a hug to

[subtle tundra]

thats a very good idea

[modest gale]

in aoe situations when im out of dance and vanish and my bleeds are falling out, do i spread bleeds 1 by 1 ? or i fucked getting in that position?

[runic hinge]

Yes but hopefully the pack is almost dead by then

[subtle tundra]

back in my day we'd only spread bleeds 1 by 1

[burnt venture]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-i-member-south-park-s20e1-member-berries-member-gif-20603952

[runic hinge]

Because if you have no cds and your bleeds are falling off you've been hitting that pack a while

[strange minnow]

why is it every time i check this god forsaken channel i see the most cursed shit

[balmy condor]

Me too man

[finite mountain]

goodby outlaw S Tier.. Assa is coming ?!?! xDD

[balmy condor]

Dogshit webpage

Fuck subcreation

[runic hinge]

This spec is so fun rn, don't care what tier were in

[finite mountain]

gimme a better one and dont say icyveins kekw 😄

[wet agate]

Tier lists 💀

[jovial jasper]

its actually so funny

[balmy condor]

There isn’t anything better

[jovial jasper]

last week it ranked ret in s

[subtle tundra]

the moment the actual pushers start playing outlaw will overtake 😉

[balmy condor]

They’re all trash

[jovial jasper]

an objectively dogshit spec

[strange minnow]

why do you do this to yourself, for what atrocities in past lives are you atoning for

[balmy condor]

Idk man

Stuck in venthyr shadowlands

[strange minnow]

[balmy condor]

Getting whipped for anima

[gaunt sigil]

[runic hinge]

I'll hold your umbrella

Parisol

[gaunt sigil]

I miss venthyr on havoc

[subtle tundra]

i want to chew on a battery

meow

[balmy condor]

I miss shadowlands cause we didn’t have dentbrained fotm rerollers during shadowlands

[gaunt sigil]

100% sinful brand uptime was stupid but hilarious to me

Real

[junior aurora]

caught in 4k

[earnest remnant]

i miss you cookin sub tech

[balmy condor]

My brain cells deteriorate at 10x the normal rate opening this channel any time after 10.2 ptr dropped

[earnest remnant]

the flagellation lord and savior

[gaunt sigil]

I started maining* Assa late 10.1 and then my guildies get salty at me like “you’re just playing fotm” this update

[balmy condor]

Amen

Sub theorycrafter whispyr was a fun lore arc

[grim jay]

Do I run that build with IW instead of dashing for science in a 20 fall

[strange minnow]

10.1 sin was straight vibes. no thoughts, head empty, just frost shards

[torn peak]

3 minute dummy fight im still shit

[jovial jasper]

to be fair there's multiple flavors of fotm reroller

[balmy condor]

I’d rather strip naked and run my balls over a cheese grater but if you’d rather do it, im not stopping you

[grim jay]

Kinda true. It was fun tho, except sepulcher

[jovial jasper]

the most demonic of them being the m+ and heroic only ones

[balmy condor]

M+ only players are demons on any spec

[jovial jasper]

because you absolutely need to roll fotm to do your weeklies

[gaunt sigil]

Proof?

[balmy condor]

Imagine rerolling fotm in the game mode where dps matters the least

[jovial jasper]

i was supposed to fotmroll off rogue this tier

yet here we are

[subtle tundra]

buddy running 20s is very HARD and doing them without augmentation is IMPOSSIBLE

[grim jay]

Kinda tempted by the stripping naked, mein Schatz.

[gaunt sigil]

Arguably false but go off

[jovial jasper]

2 tiers in a row on one class is unironically a new record for me

[strange minnow]

i’ll have you know i rerolled mid aberrus

abandon warlock, embrace envenom

[balmy condor]

[supple galleon]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[grim jay]

Im on 11 years straight now

[slate crown]

Cross realm mythic doesn't come till hof is filled right?

[gaunt sigil]

I’m just glad Assa feels playable in AOE now

[balmy condor]

Yeah

[finite mountain]

played a 19 DHT easy +2 with fails without evocaaaaaaaa 😄 dunno if we really need them in that key level 😄

[subtle tundra]

spot the sarcasm in #assassination , impossible challenge

[gaunt sigil]

Even if they turbo nerf Assa it feels so nice now idk if any amount of fotm could tear me away

[jovial jasper]

good for u i dont think i could manage

[wraith nexus]

Until the DH bursts everything during your setup, unless I’m just playing wrong.

[jovial jasper]

id rather not play the game than play a class that's like sandbag bad

[mellow copper]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[gaunt sigil]

No this is just how M+ is rn

[grim jay]

I have a DH and a hunter

[junior aurora]

wdym you can still do big overall in that pack

[agile wedge]

Do we actually try to spread or cs? And try keeping it up und Different Targets?

[balmy condor]

Goes to show you how low the iq is in this channel, people are so used to reading the dumbest shit imaginable that they can’t tell the difference between actual fucking idiot and insane sarcasm