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but rogue specs are working at least
Recently got updated for 3 target cleave too
Doesn't seem to be updated profiles for 5t but could be wrong
how would this look?
Just press shiv when bleeds are cooking and u are not gonna use KB anyways
Usually if I am setting up and shit just dies I press shiv
In what way
@arctic tusk like on single target you cast dance+kb make sure you cover kb with envenom and shiv fully, on short lived aoe, you send kb+dance then let go of your precious kingsbane to apply more ruptures and garrotes to other targets instead


ret was on 34 last week
what spec is everyone rocking for m+ this week
They got buffed by 31%
That's bc they run a talent that replaces their autos. It explicitly doesn't work with WFT
There's nothing sus their
WFT just does nothing for them
WW monk also doesn’t auto all the much
Literally
No one has said there is anything sus going on
oh interesting
I didn't know that but yea
that explains it
Wait ww is actually banging
Referring to this #assassination message
They are almost at tanks this season
i see
what packs would you do this on?
if you have some exampels
Yeh I mean bloodmallet sims are actually just windfury on vs windfury off
There’s nothing sus to be about it
If it’s sus it’s sus for every sim ever run
I use this for all keys atm https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/DAOFVVFRRFURQmJBQCVRNVUVVVUJQEEiUUBF
venom rush does seem to be the play
Where’s the person arguing about internal bleeding > caustic
I miss that person

Lies and slander
I love caustic
They disappeared when it got buffed by like 100%
Caustic goes brrrrr
🅱️rrrr
It hasn’t even gotten buffed recently
I saw some people hating caustic on like Sunday
Has there been spatter haters since?
Like last week
internal bleeding in keys goated because carnage or something idk
I haven't tried internal tbh
But then also carnage sucks cause no restealths xD
i accidentally ran spatter on every raid boss and still topped dps
But spatter tho
it has RP synergy with the rest of your bleed build tho
!restealth
Long In-depth explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:
https://youtu.be/DoZDPFk_Zog
The TLDW (I understand, it's LONG):
- Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
- This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths
- You still have vanish and in 10.2, shadow dance, which gives you MANY options to get your stealth effects
- This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years
There u go
The main benefit of restealths is for real iron wire
Like on some specific pulls it's rough to not have it
But that was before i was sin, i was a figure writer strainer
ye true it can help a decent amount
but like its so overvalued for no good reason
if you have to lose uptime on whole group for it hell no
I mean if MDI champions think restealthing is important
It's hard to convince a normie
ye
thats true
normies dont realize MDI champs dont know evvery spec perfectly in and out
they focus on the shit they play
and whats being played with them
Like when JPC does one singular gcd wrong
are you guys just sending kingsbane at the end of the first platform even though you dont get full duration, knowing it comes back up as soon as you land again?
"OMG IS THIS HIDDEN TECH"
no one saw an ass for like 20 years in keys
No bro he just forgor
i think you play blindside arterial
Depends what u mean by that
If u mean swap ttb for blindside and fd for vr
then sure

Get that shit in writing
I sent that to someone and they said “idk I think jpc’s hiding the real reason”
Actual fucking delusional rats
lmao
Is branch bugged jpc refuses to use it
fucking conspiracy enjoyers man
Ye
boots ye
venom rush for sure tyran
Guys does anyone have some minecraft lets play style videos to vibe to before bedge?
I was trying out internal bleeding last week but it quickly fell off as the keys got higher
I only tried venom rush twice but I think I'll just go with it
but I would rather load more into prio dmg since some illidan wannabe is gonna delete all small garbage anyway
It's so minor you will never realise it but yea
Carried over old 447 socketed bracers with toxic patch (BC patch is ilvl irrelevant and bracers with socket last a long time bc bracers have such low ilvl scaling).
First craft toxic boots
Second craft ring was best for me
or some guy with 2 angry dogs
on smolderon herpic is anyone holding Cds for like second inter phase? or yalll still blasting everything on CD no matter what
they also delete everything around them no effort
Pro tip
on my reclear today we were holding lust and shit for 1st dmg phase
don't forget the person that was in here during the dead week who said assassination needs a 200% ST buff
aged like fine milk
Or the people that are like “I saw rwf rogue dance end of kb for ma is that better”
I'll take the 200% buff tho
Play with a shadow priest and you will be able to pad for years on small trash
so I popped the smolboi KB+dance on pull then DM full send on 1st dmg phase @nova kelp
Hey that's me
Yeah single target sucks pls buff
We were just cooking
RWF players cant make misstakes copy everything they do
!dagger
Was may more than you
And people who wouldn’t take “lol no” as an answer
people panicing over some sims as usual
@balmy condor you also missed a banger this morning, I'll dm it to you
I think it's mostly because "why wouldn't they just do what sims most"
Oh god
"but outlaw sims 100k more in dslice" 
Do I manually multidot garrote and rupture in AoE when they fall off from indiscriminate carnage?
I’m lowkey trying to figure out how to do this in a more representative manner, I stole a code base from the shadow priests earlier we’ll see what I decide to do with it
what does that even mean
that would be lit
Are shadow priests opposite sandbagging dslice?
you have done so much giga content for learning ass man its crazy really appreciate it @balmy condor

I gotchu
They have python code to compile a composite of dungeonroute sims, think of it like a /simc but it creates a sim that back to back runs 8 dungeons straight for a total of like 5 hours of combat time instead of 6 minutes, and it takes the result and smashes it back together into a composite dps, which is like the upside of dungeonslice variance with the upside of dungeonroute accuracy. Only issue is it’s actually like a 15+ hour sim depending on talent combinations/enchant sims etc, and it’s basically impossible to run for anyone except me in this case cause I got an API key for raidbots developers so I don’t have to run the script locally. So like ends up being really good but also kinda also “Whispyr said so idk”
New to assassination, do I want to be manually casting rupture and garrote on secondary targets when indiscriminate carnage is down for AoE? For large pulls how many targets should I be looking to maintain them on?
Why does spriest have that wicked tech
Cause Saeldur is insane
Seems so
what a beast
according to sims my best gear rn is with mastery as my lowest stat, is branch really that strong that it changes the stat prio so hard? im crit>vers>haste>mastery rn
with 476 branch
I have heard that is the case for some
Mastery's biggest value is in CD's but trinket omega DR's it
I am guessing
well what is your current stat values
ye thats crazy lol i guess 6k mastery from a trinket is a lot
hey does anyone have that WA when you enter M+ hub where it says the names of the portals, im not finding it on WA, dont know what to search for
if you have like 5k mastery and 1k vers then not weird vers is better
im too lazy to use my ports
4050 crit, 3836 vers, 3284 haste, 2065 mastery
There is wa but u can just look at the mobs besides the portals
i can put more mastery on but sims telling me to take off that gear for more haste lol
yeah i know the mobs, but im too blind too see them far away
TYTY
5 alerts
monka
hmm ye that seems a bit weird to me
!log
Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage
Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/
ye idk, also droptimizers are telling me to go get more haste gear, like the BRH haste vers ring is a +1600 upgrade vs the crit mastery one from dht being a dps loss LOL
can you link a sim of your character btw?
could anyone take a look over my log ? Even tho its a 90 parse its a 4 for my ilvl and thats shit af https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LbGpMZgWcrX4zHda#fight=119&type=damage-done

yea 1 sec
There is only 99 parses in that ilvl bracket
I almost lived it I swear
all the top parses are like 2:30 maximizing your burst, maybe just a slow kill
its a slow kill for sure
Also at that ilvl bracket this early they probably got bigger trinkets and weapons
Progging Hero T.Swift
but maybe there is something i can min max on rotation
the only ppl with that ilvl are mega nerds so you are low in the highest weight class basically even though you are super high up overall
no pi no aug buffs
Yea our volocross today was 2:37
ok right off the bat, try simming wafting devotion on weapons, it started being better for me at like 460 ilvl
aug doesn't matter for logs
hm ill check that out
Unless spatter is still bugged, but don't matter for volocross
also why would your windfury totem soak opposite side of room
you only had wf buff at beginning of fight
like lol
based blue class player
wait you didnt get PI either
most sin rogues on pure ST fight at 474 ilvl are going to be getting pi
so get pi, get a shaman that isn't artistic, and kill it faster
acoustic*
mb
asimetric*
Crazy how in week two is actually feels terrible to not have 4pc already
Felt bad on thursday last week
also this is prime example why you shouldn't just compare logs to other rogues and you should compare logs against your own raid.
but
fight times, comp, and strats change DPS numbers a lot
muh number?
yes
it has to be all pretty and pink
its way easier to 99 it when others are 99ing it around you
Bro the power scaling of this patch is wild
yes
ya all 99s = short fucking fight = lust is up a much higher % of fight
We already killing nomral gnarlroot before intermission
Yep
Only reason we didn't was because someone random drummed on adds 
The reactions were worth it tho
Volocross already under 1.5 min
insane
@kindred epoch its weird i have altho i cope on hero track branch before sending crests and mine is still 463 and my stats are basically bang on even in value rn
ye felt crazy to blast through normal and hc so fast already tbh
but im not used to being in a guild with multiple blasters in it tbf
I've seen the pinned message but can someone explain what is going on with this neck?
Yea we cleared up til tindral heroic on 3 hours which is absurd considering how much we usually fuck around
giga
is BM hunter beating sin rogue in m+ from ru guys experience
kazzak has new neck that is barely better than our bis
50/50
Sometimes bm is right over me sometimes right under
The only spec really competing
and havoc
if i get restealths i top often, if its chain pulling i usually get beat
we did full normal and hc is 2h then omega lootcouncil break for like 40m something and then smashed out first 2 mythic
feels that way too
lootcouncil after each raid is like 30+ for us too now
i have sometimes been beaten by bm hunters but rarely
by not playing it
yes but how is that possible?
dot shit up
shrouded 90% of the time
yeah
I put up dots, then i send DM + KB on a ripper, if it jumps away i shadowstep to it and cloak and say im not leaving you
my love
3x garrote get 2x ruptures out with IC
3 garrotes 2 ruptures then send the dm kb
then slam cds
garrote x3 -> rupture -> fan -> CT -> fan -> rupture -> fan envenom and deathmark sequence, i usually peak for about 1.3 mill on that pull
oh
That pack is kinda frustrating because only high health are the fuckers that jumpa round
I just did 21 fall and forgor to apply poisons before that pull
Worst day of my life
huge pull with tank dmg
aight i think im not
rip
thats where your best offensive cd "cloak of shadows" comes in
think im troling my keys
i did one earlier in my ST spec i was simming before guild dragged me to it
i did zero damage and had to run out with my tail between my legs
u can evasion the whirlwind
to respec lol
kinda giga for braindead hitting it
have to tab target for garrote and rupture i assume
if u wanna be optimal
in that giant pack
Guys is the "When circumstances are dire" from embersoul bugged in m+? It never procs for me
i dont until the tail end of it
Evasion works on a suprising amount of things this season
you get IC on opener, during dance, and then again on vanish end
well dont you waste a garrote by putting it on same target?
so like you shouldn't have to tab unless the pull goes on for like 45 seconds
when theres 20 adds
you waste 1/3 of them ye
if you have IC
just learn to mouseover macro kids
ideally you have it on mouseover
i mouseover
It procs when like 2/3rds of your group dies so in m+ probably not proccing much yeh
so you can not drop your target but sometimes its too cursed if its a massive pack that gets kited by tank
on sin atm
holt shit is that the proc lol
and the plates kite you like a mage
I thought it was just a kinda cheat death but dmg
im a tab target connoisseur
i just have everything on mouseover, its a setting in interface you can use
i dot shit up before sending it bud
sure but what then when u gotta redot shit
then my KB window is over
I send it during dance IF my envenom rupture garrote dont need refreshes yes
the CT on yuge packs i mean
so just wasting precious spatter autos
Yeh it was when you reached low hp it procced but then it stacked with the original cast so it was twice as strong and people started prepulling to proc their cheats and degen shit and so they scrapped it
Now it procs on wipe basically
To prevent cheese
Smort
yeah those poison procs on autos really do be hittin
Just make it worthless
Yea man it adds up to like 20k dmg on a dungeon
i can live without that
ye I prefer mouseover stuff too
but ive played a lot of ranged dot enjoyers too and there its even more convenient with mouseover imo
mine is focus mouseover
ye thats really good
non-kick mouseover users scare me
monks griefing me fellas
How can u kick shit in time without
and sometimes shadowstep mouseover is really fucking deadly 
when a boss/mob model is too big
yeah I ditched my mouseover step cause I kept trolling myself
and you wanna mouseover an ally to step on and dont use raidframes
U still gotta
But are u like clicking each nameplate, or are u tabbing 20 times until u get right one
im the king of 0.1sec kicks
would it be smart to save currency to upgrade weps or just send it on tier?
yeah if its not my focus target that my kick is assigned for
then i would click the nameplate
and kick it
im the king
of 0.1sec kicks
fixed that for you king
👑
Thanks my Emperor
spicy
i have healer in my guild that hates doing m+ with me
cuz i will literally kick absolute last sec of the cast
makes him anxious
hating you for stopping dmg
how dare you be efficient with kicks
smhmh
Fine in voice
Huge feelsbad lol
smh people that kick after u said u would kick because they think u forgor
imagine trusting random puggerinos tho
its the same in raid
ive done some funny 0.1sec shadowstep kicks
gets some funny reactions
0.1sec step kicks are gigapog
!WA
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LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
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Pooling Practice Tool
Guys hot chocy or tea?

neither
NEED AUG
congrats you woke up today in July
Bro people need aug and 4pc for +8's
I had a guy who literally sat us in queue for 15 minutes waiting for a tank
@blazing jewel
we had 8 dif tanks sign up for his +19
and I was like bro are you waiting for andybrew or what
and he kicked me

lmao
I just bricked a 19EB because people couldnt handle staying alive for 3rd boss
you forgot a, "is a bitch" at the end there winning
Our mw kept dyingf
he turned of his stream
coward
im allowed to flame
@blazing jewel COWARD
And our ww was doing less damage than the tank half the time
my b
YOU LEAVE GREEN ROGUE ALONE 
any 17 or higher EB is super ez brick because people ignored boss mechanics last week and saved by not being tyrannical 

(I got smashed by a ww yesterday in keys)
I need content
my frames were getting destroyed
I can only watch imperative wipe to smolderon so many times man
dw we wiped on 2nd boss too
get some new glasses then
sorry if this is a noob question. does the order of poisons applied to weapons matter?
its up
nope, whichever order you wanna go in works
stealthi teach me sub
and don't apologize, everyone starts somewhere homie
nope

I hate it here
I had a 80+ death 18 EB today, just explaining mechanics wasnt enough we had 3 wipes 2nd 7 wipes sol and 5 wipes yalnu aswell had to get som prog to practice it too
everyone had it timed on +18 or higher the week before too
just him screaming at Harmy
Yeah our mw said "gg sorry guys" and left after like the 4th wipe
poor guy
Do our builds change with 4P?
im honeslty kinda proud the pugs i had wanted to power through and learn, it was rough and they were bad and slow, but in the end they learned it decently tbh
real talk, those end up being the best keys
even if you deplete
ye because no toxic bs
they realized they were bad and shit was hard
you learn you get better
That was my 17 tott earlier
I'd rather sit there and wipe and help someone learn something than just dip on them
thats how it should be
Learned you gotta stack kinda hard for last boss
im commiting war crimes on sub lmfao
ill never understand the people that feel the need to type in chat
ye
It is my LIFE
🤝
sunday
wdym what do you do
you go on symbols
well you obv don't overcap dance charges
What piece should we be crafting second?
you know this lmao

anyone got a spammable poison weakaura?
this is literally sub 101
you should be able to dance 3x in the opener
im getting carpal tunnel
I saw exile would vanish after evis in first dance
so I just chain 3 dances together?
bracers or boots to put a toxic patch on it for your toxic thorns
@elfin patio 
Do you mean bracers or belt
⛑️
I need to get all the tier before using this right?
will it give me mythic appearance when I acquire heroic/normal tier later?
It will give you the shoulder effects for all appearances
ohh
this needs to be a pin
tyrannical everbloom doesn't fuck around
jesus christ
I've been timing +18 keys all day on my 460-462 dh
then I get to everbloom
jfc
and then the everbloom times you
YEP
real quick should i be using buzzing or hissing runes
I've had absolutely no problems with 2nd or 3rd bosses in throne
for me its howling for ST and buzzing for AOE
well damn

should i do a stat weight sim for st to determine what stats are more valuable?
###################
copy="Weapons: (haste) Howling rank 3"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:howling_rune_3/off_hand:howling_rune_3
copy="Weapons: (mastery) Hissing rank 3"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:hissing_rune_3/off_hand:hissing_rune_3
copy="Weapons: (AP) Whetstone rank 3"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:primal_whetstone_3/off_hand:primal_whetstone_3
copy="no weapon oil"
temporary_enchant=disabled
copy="Weapon: (crit) Buzzin rank 3"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:buzzing_rune_3/off_hand:buzzing_rune_3```
If you wanna make the choice easier, take your simc input and slap this at the end of it in an Advanced Sim



shit be buzzin fr fr
good sumaritan oxi out here
fuu was trying to be hip
sumaritan? 
anyone know what recommened talent tree to use for tyrannical

I cant spell, NA education
I'm personally vibing with the AP build, swapping flying daggers for venom rush and Tiny Toxic for Blindside
still using AP/blindside
if you're going to reference ancient civilizations at least be geographically correct, I'd be a good Phoenician

ap/blindside is the goat
ok its a single target boss fight you did your opener bursted like 200k in +13-14 key youre doing pretty good. Used all your cds didnt fuck up any timings but THEN WHAT how do you keep that burst up? i keep reapplying my dots when they about to go off should i pool at that point or keep mutilating and envenoming (2 new piece no old piece 1 nick of time 1 igira dagger and none of bis trinkets) appreciate all the help
you just maintain dots and pray it doesn't die before your next KB otherwise you just kinda auto attack and refresh bleeds while everyone else has fun
Is there a place where I can place my log to someone take a look at? I'm not doing very well as rogue in general assassination and I would enjoy some insight 
is crimson tempst worth maintaining on single target?
you can DM me the link and I can take a look at it for you
only use on 2+ targets
thanks a lot!
Honestly even 2+ feels wasted
otherwise you'll be energy starved and sad
also should i envenom whenever i can or should i envenom when i need that buff for poison apply
does upgrading your lower crests bypass the weekly cap?
!dagger
I mean no reason not envenom when ur above a certain energy threshold and are sitting on the points
nop
what if im always around %50%60
that means im mutilating too much right
also my auto attack must worth something right? cause i feel like dork when im not mutilating and im auto attacking
Without 4piece u only need to be above 50% rn
with 4 piece u want to be at like 80ish to envenomchain
Its just a random heroic boss cuz im not logging my m+'s but its still the same gameplay U kinda just.. Auto hit.. Alot.. xd
#assassination message props to this lad for being the first person I saw posting about AP/blindside
Ig u try your best to target low mobs to get the ambush procs
no because then you swap your spatter to low stuff
you just have the blindside for ST boost
Things die so fast in tyran anyways but ig
ye you just bleed everything
watch the sudden death go 🅱️rr and use blindside for when its single target stuff
And whispyr shamed him smh my head
ye turns out that middleground type of build fits nicely for m+
is there an animation to the 4P?
Alright, might catch some shit for this question, but do any of you sin rouge use a rotation helper? and if so which one is best specifically for Sin rouge. I feel that im perfomring pretty well but at times it gets clunky or i dont burst as much as others and im interested to see where im going wrong on some target dummies to see if im missing something in rotation
i have not noticed an animation at least 
Yeah I mean it’s just arterial with more single target
ye exactly
It’s not entirely revolutionary but it just kinda looks wrong considering how much people always value aoe
But I guess pendulum swung
its also actually better on aoe when packs live a short time
or i mean not beter than full aoe AP
but difference small there and ST increase massive
let them cook so we can delay nerfs
What build are people running this week for keys? been playing around with talents a bit but not satisfied
Tyrannical bosses taking 5 minutes does that ig
the higher u go the more important ST becomes
Whats that looking like on the right side, dropping Crimson and Thrown perscision to take that lower left side?
yeah imo AP/BS build just feels better in M+. Bleed everything and watch your Sudden Demise just obliterate meters
im running 21-22's
Ap + blindside it seems
Some opting for hybrid
Thank you, trying to figure all this rouge shit out
still new to it
got to almost 2700 pretty easily, now hitting a wall and trying to figure out where im going wrong
For st in raid are you guys spending a lot of time not doing much to stay over 150 energy?
thats the ST raid build
hi guys , what is the best talent build for Tyrannical week?
@bronze nest https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/DAOFVVFRRFURQmJBQCVBNVUVVVUJQEEiUUBF sry this is the correct one
I wonder this too
imo I'd get a KB timeline and pratice your opener. The rotation itself outside of opener/kb window is pretty linear. Those rotation addons can mess up the set up. I know Hekili is having issues where its telling players to Envenom on your 3rd gcd from opener and never recommending Deathmark.. which is pretty brutal lol
No you basically don't care about that
fyfan
You care much more about chaining envenoms than sanguine blades uptime
Only when 4p tho right?
It’s not really though
Yeah im trying to avoid any kind of rotation helper, but i feel like my burst window and others just isnt the same, and when i do it well, i feel i drop off as the fight goes on, so was just trying to potentially use it to do comparisons on dummies to see
so focus on keeping envenom uptime as perfect as possible without just spamming the thing?
Yea basically
as a feral main ty
Do you consider a KB Timeline a rotation helper? As opposed to something like Hekili? I mean sure it arguably helps with your "rotation"
Is that a addon or something? never heard of it
so its like 200 st compared to 190k?, when i simmed myself it was about 5% difference and that i would say is pretty big
Honestly I feel like it's just a matter of getting comfortable with your rotation. You know that every minute you'll send a SD KB and should know what you want prepped to send before and during it. The rest is commiting it to muscle memory and adapting with fight mechanics and timings
200 to 190 is also 5%
ye thats what i mean
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A simple KB weakaura is enough to keep track of when you want to press things tbh
And 5% is frankly not that massive all things considered
this thing is a life saver
@balmy condor I meant to say its pretty big because i consider the 5% pretty big, when i simmed it was a 5% win in ST and like a 1% loss in aoe and the overall was better with the ST focus choices
I just play what feels best 
You like Venom rush over Flying daggers?
They all so insanely close and good
but like its dungeon and affix and comp reliant tbh
5% more single target on 1/4th of your groups damage on a boss is uhhhhhhhhhh
like i usually play with a Havoc friend
and havoc does crazy for free aoe
But one of the numbers
so i focus more on prio dmg
its not more overall dmg necessarily
i mean maybe i got gear enough for that now tbh
but the ST variant of AP simmed higher than the hybrid for pure ST for me when i started the ap/blindside
Yeh but you’re playing for prio
but i suppose thats not the case at higher gear
And the burst is definitely not equal
Is the hybrid build better? im decently geared
Do you just have your armory link ready to go
no, i just snagged it when he said gear mattered
I see
I wouldn’t even know how to get my character from armory tbh
Never used it
But anyway
The builds do the same shit
its just linked to my IO, so i oepend it and clicked it lol
I'd probably just sent an raiderio link 
ye ill try the hybrid again now tbh coudl also be skewed experience because i got better at playing the keys once i started using ap/blindside too
We’re arguing about the most min-max of garbage
Must be a boomer because that’s the only people I know who use armory
i mean fair but thats what im about
Actually pointless discussion just on a philosophical type deal
im trying to minmax shit
I tried to find my armory yesterday and it simply doesn't exist
And they’re all perfectly fine
I am fake
ye true its all pretty damn close 
IDK... cause now you have me questioning Venom Rush or Flying Daggers lol
Lethality is a hell of a drug
https://wago.io/PFTo3o6Ug/15 Also, if you want to practice on dummies and see your overall KB dmg
I guessed that was it, but weird it scales so well with target count
Compared to slamming a tea
ye tea has quite a decent chunk of its worth in energy regen that is completely nullified on cleanly done massive pulls
bro that last boss sucks
All my homies hate everbloom tyran
been in a 20 rise yesterday, not fun
How do you guys feel about running with AUGs
dogshit
bad
their dmg is too bad
THANK YOU
even if they do good defensive stuff
a super well played aug is like a trashcan normal dps rn
i always feel down one DPS with them
This was the end of that EB
ye thats how it is atm
In guild runs bosses just evaporate on 20's
Taking aug in pugs is the biggest bait of a lifetime
might need to pop cds on the add so it doesnt wreck your group
I am still a certified hater
the boss doesnt take bonus dmg when add is alive
Yeah that is why I was doing it on add
so you cant cleave from boss that well
Because the add would still have like 2.5m hp when genesis started
and your group takes HELLA bonus dmg when add is alive
KB was the only way I was getting him down in time for those
But then it fucks DM usage
i like assa gameplay but I still feel like outlaw might perform better in higher keys rn
ye i had to do that too
The only time I am picking aug is if the timer is free af and we just need to survive
that boss is just cringe once you have to use cds on add
I usually end up using the Lone KB on add
outlaw shines in m+ in higher keys due to vers/survivability
Fakest shit I have read in a long time
i think its mostly that m+ players are used to outlaw and sub tbh
Vers being important for key pushing has been fake for a while
Also vers aint bad for sin
Is it? All our dots eventually hit a cap of how many targets you’re hitting with imp gar for example, CT and caustic DR themselves after 5, so the mastery there is technically DR’ing as well, crit though doesn’t care. If something crits it’s just double the dam
ass burst prio dmg and iron wire is actually just better if they do similar overall
i mean i run 13% vers as sin, but run like 28% as outlaw

ass has not been the go to spec for rogues since ever in m+ afaik
I guess
that 7% less dmg taken plus 5% more stam is kind of a big deal
agree w iron wire, the cd usage can be a bit sus at times tho
I am telling you vers being important for key pushing has been fake for multiple expansions
i mean not if you take more dmg because packs are casting and live longer for example
its definetly harder to use your cds well on ass but when you do it right
I remember it in bfa
Still brung
some decent offhealing garbage shure
huh u had earth ele, wall, Wolf
but it still gets brought to highest keys
enh lived every boss
He did not
Likely not
Court of stars on tyran last boss
blue class name = death
U can almost always find a way to survive shit
Even if the way to survive is a combat ress
like you can survive even on squishy classes when you play it like a gigachad
when we pushed high keys s1 I was by far the squishiest dps (enh, boomy, sub)
If it does more dmg and has what u need, u bring it even if it just takes all your combat resses
but similar thing with the enh shaman too insane amounts of cc/stops and shit
giga prio dmg giga pack control
Yo
so even if defensiveness was lacking
Holy shit don't tell blizzard
Call me the impossible man
rogue is not tanky to rot dmg
feel like assa will inevitably get nerfed and outlaw will become rogue m+ go-to
Dying on rogue is impressive
I’d go sub before I went law again
sub will creep out of nowhere and shit on outlaw mark my words
My wrists
Dying on rogue only happens cuz u shadowstepped into an aoe
2 seasons of sub im ready to break my wrists
if ass gets nerfed people start pulling big boom big shaq its ya boi secret technique
Or tank 360 no scopes you with cleaves
I mean it has omega leech now and u can in worst case take evasion
There is not rly anything this season that scares me as rogue
What others?
Is there any reason to have Kingsbane and Shadow dance on my bar as seperate spells? Or just macro them together. context is m+
Acquiring hoes
ive lived so many packs and bosses when my healer is clueless lying of the floor
I only know one rogue spec
Checkmate pal
I love watching entire party drop to 1hp from bursting just pressing cloak
Alright buddy
the pirate and the shadow tthat pulls things trhough walls with tier set
Fake
or maybe they fixed the shadows on sub tier set by now idk
but it createed the waycrest experience in other places too
no blindside in aoe so... curious if anyone has any ideas
the shadow will be unfake on mythic smolderon tho
Smart

I don't see the issue
Just get a 2nd pi at 1 minute

Just have pi for all kbs
1 PI already has me sending
Wait
bro the priests fucked up my logs earlier, i had double pi but at the same time
How good is PI on KB actually
no extra value still invalidated log 
I mean more poison app = good
The other rogue in my guild is sub gamer
so he is your shadow
just be the only rogue in the guild :3
❤️
Bro my priest always fucks up 2nd pi
i always get my 2nd pi when all my cds are over

like bruh just keep it atp
Get a wa
call the police on him
!whispyr
Spam him 200 times
Call his phone
but if you are already doing that then idk
Send him an email
fax him
My solution usually
"AYO PRIEST, I'M 'BOUT TO BUST GIVE ME THE JUICE BABBYYYYY"
im not afraid
Get him a walkie talkie
You gotta deep throat the mic to let them know
I'm sure you could code up a lovesense
to fire a vibration up his bum
when you deathmark
my aug evoker raidleader asks after 2 min of the fight" is it rogue blasting time?" i say "yes its blasting time" and he puts the dragon sauce on me
Modify the wa so instead of glowing your frame, it just blackscreens everything else
Set up a macro where you yell “they call me communion because I’m the cracker with the juice.”
Idk what else to tell you
Imma force him to get a WA that shows wheni use deathmark
in the middle of his damn screen
All priests should have it
is there a general number of targets in m+ you try to rupture? or should i stop at 2-3 and focus on envenom with 4pc bonus on a splatter target?
4 non crits 
Certified krill issue
!dagger

I wonder how Kamala’s doin these days
I haven’t heard from her in 3 years
why is Outlaws dslice so disgustingly high compared to sub/sin?
Cause dslice is a great profile to crank numbers for specs with no burst
Sorry I'm sure this is said somewhere but I couldn't find. In the last 3 secs of kingsbane, is it worth to spend an envenom at 3 cp if it means another in the window after garroting again. I notice I don't have time for another builder often and not sure if its worth. Ty :)
No
yo chill
good meowning 
idk cursed schedule due to some doomer keys earlier days then simulation gulag and shit
so any good drops yet ?
Bro all anyone posts is drops and vaults. I wanna hear tragedies. I’m tired of wins.
Yea simply better at the game
Wheres ur 2nd one 
Haven't seen anyone else with vault nick yet
i played yesterday 6x rise yesterday 12-16 gold only 
here's a tragedy, my guild is making me play sub for smolderon
witherbark finally dropped boys
I got one nick after farming last week champion track branch
but trash asss vault no 2nd nick or hero branch in sight
You should leave your guild

our mage did 70 waycrests before getting a branch
fuck em
Unless it's mythic
is it mythic?
if its mythic its validated
if its heroic kingsbane them irl
Probably because branch is in everbloom
ofcourse it's mythic






