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and next sparks in 2 weeks
I have yet to loot any weapons š¦ Done so many falls. Still rocking 447 :)))
Does somebody Know in the last Boss of atal dazar Deals damage with his uninterruptable Cast now and After that the ticking dot Stays But cant be dispelled? Or is the dot gone?
@earnest remnant I made it 
My weapons are now my lowest Ilvl items, considering crafting instead of embellish, but not sure if it's the long term best solution
there is still a dot
dont' think it can be dispelled but can be immuned with cloak
have you got the link to that sim out of curiosity, im simming 170k and want to see what the 32k difference is in gear lol
the 476 Branch sims around the same as 476 Ashes of the Embersoul for me š
does it mean I have too much mastery ? š
thanks bud, probably the trinkets, im rocking branch and the garbage egg shell haste atm
i've seen so many eggshells
booty ass trinket
the pvp passive trinket
insignia of alacrity
is pretty good
if you can get it at a high ilvl
i think they go up to 483 now
if you're into pvp
yeah im just thinking if those pants are bait or so .. legs are definetly my off tier pieace
more reliable than dungeon drops
i mean, our stats run so close that i don't even think that the tier pants are that bad
you could toss on any pair of pants that happen to sim the highest at that time
depending on your current gear and what not
They arent
I mean just look at fuus ST top sim
It has a vers heavy ring with crit
Y thats true But i dont get it why they made that cast uninterruptable⦠that will be nuts tbh
yeah robot is going to want you to pick up those "unfavorable" stats from somewhere
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True, crit Vers back just simm fore highest now, too much other stats I guess
I did a 21 earlier today and it was tough but not that criminal
dungeon still very easy
Also I'm curious about the pvp on use trinket as it lines up with every kb
Instead of every DM
With branch
is there "too much mastery" for us? based on the guide it says mastery wins all š
Well, at a certain DR point Sims will show other stats gaining increased value presumably
You never should just stack something
I dont have Branch but have option to take the Ashes
the guide does not say that
Could i bind Withrebark in Deathmark?
thinking about getting the Ashes since my trinkets suck hard...its about 10k DPS for me in sims
the guide says mastery has slightly more value on average than the other stats given that all else is equal
Do we not ambush in SD?
but all else is never equal
There are situations where either one will be more preferable than the other
thx guys š
the situation to take ashes over branch is that you don't have branch

^this
it is yes
you can and probably should to save some buttons
Branch might end up changing what sims better for you on your other gear tho
@keen spruce my biggest dilema rn is if I wanna spend crest on mythic dagger from raid last week. I have 483/480 nick of time rn so 489 normal dagger over it is only like 1k DPS gain
i mean it's kind of a free upgrade
cuz if you get another nick
it'll just cost flightstones
It's 45 crest
but there is the opportunity cost losing the crests ig
idk weps and trinkets always first
for me
with crests
keep em juiced
it won't take long for all crests to become redunant
and saving for perfection is just gonna make you weak now
And I'm super not sure about signet, like everyone play signet on race btw
i'm not gonna run signet
unless i see a very compelling reason to
we just escaped sophic and call to suffering
why would I put my parse in the hands of another low proc rate trinket

I run Sims and pip is 500 DPS over sandglaas and signet is break even until 6m+
i'll probably just run pips in evertying once i get one
cuz it's better in AoE already
Id honestly never run signet if I have something thats only slightly behind even
in AP m+ do we try to stack shiv+KB or use shiv near end of packs for extra execute dmg?
Very hard to get pip, cos it's shared with like every DPS spec š
Sandglass is pretty good
low keys shiving for burst can be fun / kind of okay
Think its even better st than Pips for me rn
Honestly if Iām stuck with sandglass for prog I aināt even mad
high keys, save it for KB
yeah sandglass is a nice cruiser of a trinket
All the raid trinkets sux
happy to run it
warming up in 17s gonna go 20s later and shit just dies so quick have to use shiv to get pad vs DHs lol
Once you get branch and sandglass there is no real upgrade in raid
Unless mythic trinkets
sandglass + eggshell overkill on haste or no š
eggshell is cheeks
throw it in the sea
You said the same about puzzy B
no no
I said
fk puzzlebox
I didn't say it was bad
I can confirm
are people playing the same build on tyran?
He said āI donāt care how much it sims for fuck that trinketā
PuzzlerB
I canāt wait for s4 and it be bis
Weāre not getting algathar lol
DF dungos are done outside of dawn
haha yea i was very unlucky on trinkets so far so i ll use glass and augury for st today i guess
bomb dispenser and grieftorch 
Great design
Boon 
i'd be down to boon it up again
They will do fated m+, didnt you get the Memo?
which part of tier set will we craft with armor patch ?
Gonna probably be ashes + bomba
But nice meme
cant wait for my fated grieftorch
Weāve had fated m+

Otherwise I wouldnāt have to suffer through fucking throne of tides

my brother in christ what happened
Just delete every cata dungeon man
was that a tank solo from 50% hp?
Shit dungeons

M+ has beenā¦. Rough this week
It was a 22, lol, we had 10 mins, played it safe
m+ has been very profitable this week
The brewmaster, the warlock and myself had to 3 man Raal from 70% health yesterday

look the europeans got home from work and already took a spot from me
True I got Jack shit in my vault and a branch

@gusty mirage fated is going to have kingās rest dw
I like KR
In fact I loved KR
That was assassinationās best bfa dungeon
Weād shit on the broken outlaw rogues
this is a bad take and u should feel bad 
Ah fuck, I have 2 dungeons undone, and I went to bed, I shoulda pushed for top 10
Never getting that close again
Wdym youāre already top 10 in our hearts
u guys recrafting toxic item now for max ilvl or u use this little crest from killing fyrakk and use aspect crests for upgrades instead this week?
is there a weekly quest this week?
I just used the fyrak crest
bracer's aren't a super imporant slot
and I'd rather use aspects on more impactful stuff atm
y that seems pretty smart atm
ngl dont even fucking want branch
bruh
i would've rather not had that slot
Wanna trade
yes
I also used fyrakk crest on wrists, using big crests on trinkets and myth track vault slot
I don't have 2pc yet but I definitely take nicky here right?
I skipped a few patches so im still kinda learning the new upgrade system. Is there any reason to NOT choose the PVP gloves from the hero token? Theyre the same ilvl. The other tier pieces are higher ilvl on the non-pvp, but for gloves its the exact same right?
godam it, im getting outta bed to go finish atleast some 19s
thats like 80 points each
Youāll get the same ilvl one from a 17 fall
end of dungeon
So itās if youāre willing to enter the mines or not
anyone got a sim string for all the pieces with toxifiedarmopatch?
I saw the stat prio thing here for sin
But i still stim myself right? instead of trying to get "equal" stats
You should absolutely never try to get equal stats
That is a disaster waiting to happen
bracer is the best slot for decay?
Ye or belt, lowest stat weight items
And max crafted gear is -3 ilvl to mythic/myth track gear
worth? i have FUN, so its worth to me
Itās worth it if itās fun for you
but would i be trolling for going assa ?
adds dies with 1m hp
Why would you be trolling
my kingsbane is gonna suddenly demise
because no time to ramp
aswell
oh wow the sim is saying that the 2pc is like +10k over nicky
I mean no flame, but if you have to ask that question spec is irrelevant in your keys
i only play outlaw in ataldazar this week, but not play assassin as wel
Ya tier bonus big dam
If it was a myth track Nick you take it no questions asked
how is that answer related to what im asking
Hey. Can i bind dance and kingsbane in one macro?
that's such a bad take lmao
im asking which spec performs the best this week
Cause itās hero and you can farm that
I remember there being a reason
it competes enough to not be a troll pick, i would wager that outlaw "performs" better
but I don't remember
Considering you think itās a bad take. Why would it be special this week vs any other week?
^^
yea i dont pvp that much but if its a "why not" might just take them , as long as I find otu im not trolling
If you dont have an answer then dont type
Hey. Can i bind shadowdance and kingsbane in one macro?
oxi because it's tyrannical?
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other people were way more helpful
I do remember that there is a reason why you don't take the pvp stuff if you don't pvp
ty
Lmao okay pal
you dont have to reply aswell
Beginner question, as assassination, whats the order to put ur 4 poisons? or it doesnt matter
So I yolo bought the pvp thinking I could sell anyway if I int it for 2 hours
nobody forcing you to
it was before the track system last season shmeeps
It doesnāt matter any order as long as you get 4
actually wait maybe it was lower ilvl in the vendor
I wonder if the reason is cause last season you needed rank to upgrade your items
but you dont a nymore right?
it was lower ilvl in the vendfor @drifting cloud
still is
for every item
except gloves
gloves is the same as they are both 1/6
possible
all pvp pieces are 1/6
it doesnt say that u get 30% less application in the talent ?

Jeez Sub down bad
the fact that I can press that button means I dont really need a rank to upgrade them now
Lmfao
it's cause i did pvp a lot before
and right now im in a pve arc
but it could change you feel
People arenāt playing sub because the 2pc is pulling half the dungeon
But yeah, down bad
that means that once your poisons are equipped. they proc 30% less often on mobs
has nothing to do with what order you equip them on your seps
oh so all poisons get 30% less application
Didnt know we had 10 year olds in this channel like this guy
thanks

oxi is like 100
ol' bastard
You came in here and asked a question with zero context and got upset at the reply. Donāt know what to tell ya bud
imagine being so mentally challenged that you gotta shove your ego up people's faces when they ask something you somehow find offensive
just dont answer bro
nice speedrunning a mute
it aint that hard
imagine imagining
nobody asked you to
my dude your spec doesnt matter in your +14 keys
Mustāve hurt your ego with my first reply
i got upset by YOUR reply only, the others were super cool
wait lemmy scroll up i missed this
your attitude just sucks tbf
so the affixes dont have any impact on the spec you play
@gusty mirage what if i cook a sepsis build for smolderon
but because youre a casual player you havent yet realized that
omega fat juicy cock bursts
Bro who hurt you
i havent even taken it from the vault
i did
HUH
SND still exists
With the 2pc is there any difference to the rotation?

Btw I would highly refrain from using terms like āmentally challengedā to a moderator. Insinuating people have mental illnesses because your ego is bruised is no bueno. Also insulting people who are mentally challenged is 100% against our rules. So Iāll let this slide because I very clearly hurt your feelings but next time donāt be so upset that your question got dismissed
After reviewing the play, Oxi gave a pretty regular ass answer to a pretty silly question and only called you out on your silliness after you pressed him about it multiple times.
The angy on the play is overturned.
first down
kitten tears should be banned
Canāt wait to use this shtick
Being a moderator doesnt give you a free ticket to having a shit attitude
man I love rugby
its like nah every single sin rogues gotta respec now š¤£
youre asking to play assa in keys in assa channel bozo, what do you think the anwer will be
Being upset you didnāt get the answer you wanted also doesnāt give you a free ticket to make fun of people who are mentally challenged
the answer would be help regarding how i play assa better
The rare double down
oh i got my answer from the others just not from you

you literally asked if palying assassin is trolling, how does the answer to that make you play assass better
everyone pretty much gave the same answer

they said play what you think is fun
Whatās the difference between splatter and the rupture dmg ?
and then you just kept asking the same fkin question
Is it aoe/st?
!up
spec makes no difference unless you're pushing top keys
im asking about this week in specific where adds die fast and you cant ramp properly, as i said not everyone's been playing this class for millions of years
they already said that multiple times

if adds are dying so fast that you can't ramp

Facts
in which case
w
it doesn't fking matter what you play
That's cap though
nothing is trolling
Even in 22 last week with fortified
adds don't just fall over, and if they are you are doing low keys, where there is no trolling in a key, because your tank is busy pulling 140% trash
everything is fine
So what would the better spec be for these keys then ?
do what you want
your kingsbane target would die fast sometimes
where we cant ramp ?
rule of thumb
of you need too ask "is X spec "trolling" " you are ages away of playing on a level where class or spec choices will do anything at all lol
it literally doesn't matter
havoc
because things are dying so fast
if you problem in the dungeon is things are dying too fast
assa 
then there is no problem
Yo real talk, havoc is obscene in keys
+1
like what are we trying to solve here
World hunger bozo
Itās like they just always have damage all the time
my friend is havoc and my ego is bruised every single key
Itās absolutely wild
dude frost/fire and even demo is disgusting too
Demo 4pc will pull all of waycrest for you too 
No
they dash in use bladedance and do 500k 
get out with your socialism shit, we are on the GRIND SET here šŖ

team is there a rule of thumb when it is worth to pop my full dm kb window in m+? mostly going 20ish keys currently. i am new to sin but i already notice, that my kb doesnt go through fully, so maybe i choose the wrong packs
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Ngl itās rough, outside of like mini boss trash shit just falls over even on fort weeks
i had a chill and fun time going into bosses with dm on cd, and having it ready to execute in 17's
havoc's a party pooper
Esp if everyoneās just blasting CDs
Also sudden demise is 10/10 for trolling your healers this week, go forth and save your cloak

havoc just not aoe capped or some shit, their dps is ridiculous
We hit 18 stacks of bursting in an everbloom yesterday
their 2pc is stronk
Our healer was screaming
5 stacks already rolling, ripping a shiv into 5 more low health mobs to snipe some damage from the DHs and the BMs

so whats the best i can do then? okay outlaw? š
if only i could get my nasty envenom bombs along w AP build
just mass dispe......OH WAIT

facing your same issue lol
sudden demise can also randomly troll your atal dazars on vokal
when it pops your totem from an unexpected %
and everyone's scramblin to catch up
thats why i just dont put my bleeds on the totems
Outlaw will be the better overall damage, itās more consistent throughput and not very bursty unless you proc a ton. But if you have a ton of burst in the group, itās a good complement to the other dps
demise destroys those things
ty
this week for tyranical better arterial build ?
i just wish when we eventually get nerfed cause of our raid sins we dont just become bad in m+
got this in vault, how/when do we use this?
!dagger

I think so. but i'm also using arterial every week
Sin is so fun in M+ tho even with those difficulties ā¤ļø
cuz i like blindside 
I bet you still track the procs
damn tryhard
i do not
I would recommend you play venom rush & blindside if you play the AP build so ST doesnāt feel absolutely dogshit
this game has sound??
i still use my ambush button when it procs
they make a little gushy sound
Itās hidden by your secret K-pop addiction Ryler
outed
Turn down YouTube
mfd sound mvp
after a patch of spriest and then 3-4 months away from the game, i can feel myself developing carpal tunnel in my left hand
Good thing ur not playing law this season š
yup. im soon to be boomer gamer days are numbered
oh i knew him. flag mfd from sl in m+ goated
nag, good riddance
Imagine not playing our lord and savior
in shadowlands
Regarding the crafted toxic patch piece, my wrists have a socket and are crit/mastery. Meanwhile my belt is the one listed on wowhead as bis, but no socket. Where would you recommend I make my crafted piece?
Both 470 ilvl
in some dungeons i was necro in some venthyr
buddy
Def belt if you have a socket on bracers
Sockets big dam
someone had to be necro
Itās nutty how much damage a socket actually is
Is it really
how are we supposed to sim toxic patch in droptimizer
Is it actually that much? I got 4 pc "naturally" so I was thinking to just hold my catalyst for a myth track item, but I do have a helmet with a socket I could just catalyst instead
And that way I wouldn't have to run the legs
anyone has the sim text for wep. runes, consumables etc. from whis?
sockies very stronk
Socks busted then
like
either arterial or hybrid build have any certain advantage on tyrannical weeks? or still around equal?
I skipped last tier that's nuts
Best bet is slapping it into gear compare, raidbots droptimizer kinda sucks ass when it comes to toxic patch for some reason
nice crab bozo
Ye I got you, one sec
Mate I'm so jealous of those daggers

yea thats a feelsbad, thx
I got branch after 30 runs
i did 60+ galakrond so
Still not a single dagger and you want two T_T
in my experience, the hybrid build is just not worth it. ap just covers all levels
Congrats though
@brazen oasis #assassination message here ya go friend, slap that at the end of your simc input in an advanced sim
merci
is taking wrists generally better ?
Can also take the dif consumables and run them separately
Itās either or, depending on what slot is better. I was personally was just too lazy to swap mine to belt so I just kept it on bracers
i had a socketed belt, so i went bracers
Essentially itās a craft in whatever slot you have lower ilvl/no socket in. If theyāre the same then itās whatever you prefer
How do we pool energy with 4p? Do we stay above 50% regardless ?
Tru
okay thanks!
no cap, im probably going internal bleeding
is it worth dropping sudden demise for bursting? was having a hard time earlier with stacks cuz of it
You could probably get away with that depending on how trash damage is for the rest of the group
i mean makes sense, if there's no target to kb on, you're not likely to get good use on trash, may as well bleed it up
Is the hybrid m+ in wowhead's guide build the one that most people play? It sims the highest for me
i am a fan of the ap build, but i run with a dh that deletes things
Seems pretty evenly split between that and AP
it's still doin about 8% of my damage in like blackrook and atal
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less in throne
Do you play one of them?
AP build is just more fun for me so I play that
Thank you for this tip, I guess venom rush is significant in ST right ?
For tyran I swap flying daggers for venom rush and I run blindside all the time so I donāt want to alt f4 during ST
my 15 waycrest
Does anything change rotation wise?
itāll give you roughly the same energy as tea over the course of a dungeon which is kinda huge
If you got 4piece is there a change in ther playsytle/talents? Or do you just spam envenom?
Nope, you play it the same way, you just feel less energy starved
And we like not being energy starved
sounds nice
Do you play the "classic" build anyway on tyra week oxi ? Or you also try arterial ?
Cause otherwise you sit there sad
okay getting like 40ilvl upgrades from vault is pretty fun
one dungeon and 40 ilvl upgrade the next day
shesh
I always play arterial
okay gotcha š
Itās too much fun for some reason, plus sudden demise to make your healers hate you 
Yeah I love it haha
Alright thanks. I'll try it out. Do you think it's better than outlaw with 4p?
yea aterial feels stronger overall then hybrid
āOh shit whoops we rolled bursting from 5 to 11 darnā
before i go look, is there a rotation on wowhead for AP? Im on mcdonalds wifi at my mother in laws
āYeah thatās not something I can actively doā
my poison reapplication macro doesn't work huh
and then cloak it off

"healer mechanic"
aight guys, i got 4p now, is there any talent /rota change now ?
noe
nope
just that pooling and chaining enveoms is more important
no envonom spam now or smth ?
but you shoulda been doing that already
yea yea so its the normal playstyle i guess
there is no need to track wa for 2p buff right?
we just play around 4p envenom buff we dont care to track that, is it correct?
You don't track ic?
how and why?
No need to track any of it, youāre chilling. Itās just passive damage
Using Ap, shiv is much more important in the rotation right?
Idk I kinda like to track the 10s window
idk, never been in a situation where i had to worry, or know of one where you'd need it
Still save it for KB, or emergency soothes
finally got two daggers, took exactly 50 runs if some1 need to know š
or the unethical execute pop knowing you could be gimping yourself
i got 38 runs on EB trinket kekw
@opaque oriole dude i mean this w all due respect, fuck you ā¤ļø
I gave up after 31 for a second one, your mental is much stronger than mine
I refuse to step into Dawn this week. I just canāt do it
Im over that entire shit dungeon both wings too
which level is everyone runnin Fall on to farm those? 14?
Im at 42 runs with 1 dagger, hoping 50 is the cap to get it lmao
I have deleted two EB trinkets š
You wanna do at least a 17 for hero track to upgrade to 483
Ideally 17+
no waaaaaay š¦ š
i'm a lil rookie at 14, but no sign yet
is wowhead good reference for crafted gear?
17!? Ugh fuck me
You got this, I believe 
okay i just thought there is not only improved garrote, there is improved rupture as well? š but this is not correct?
if my mathematics was correct, dagger is a 6.66% chance
You can snapshot nightstalker into rupture as well ye
If you consider improved rupture that is being snapshotted then yes
But I've been told the dps diff isn't that big, not sure tho
Yea itās not worth forcing it
i just got a wrong understanding
Much easier to turn off brain and just blast envenoms 
Worth upgrading chest to 463 and making it tier so i can have 2pc with gloves? or should i farm for better chest and wait? i have 4pc t30 at 450
Have you cleared normal raid or lfr this week?
If not run those and pray for some tier and rolling luck, hang on to the catalyst charge in case you get something higher ilvl later
I have not. you are right ill wait
Would you guys take mythic tier hest or mythic tier shoulder from vault 
Not a big fan of the catalyst changes but it is what it is
always send it
I took 483 shoulders to shove up my ass until next week
Chest sims 350 DPS higher but shoulder drops of smolderon
But probably shoulders
Pretty sure a lot of people would like mythic head
Hi everyone. Is there a way to do a dummy parse without vanish resetting details?
Sims are for the posers
My heart is telling me shoulder in case mythic chest drops off nymue
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To stop details from resetting on vanish, go into the settings and under Overall Data, make sure "Use Dynamic Overall Damage" is checked.
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Hi guys, do you know if agument rune is cheaper at 20 renown??? Can you show SC
Did you just assume it's gender
a bit low for the ilvl? im missing fall daggers and a better 2nd trinket not sure else how to improve over more ilvl
thats about right
If you mean if the vendor cost goes down, itās still 100k at 20 renown unfortunately
hmm alright was thinking I should be closer to 200k
What slot should we craft our toxic patch in?
wrist or belt
Waist wrist
ty
Bruh I'm same ilvl as you without tier and sim the same
Get some timestrike dags
How does the 4pc make you less energy starved ? Does "increased attack speed" work more like haste and gives us energy regen?
caus the "attack speed" from snd doesnt give energy regen right?
convenient didnt get any gear in either of those slots
can I see your gear? char name?
you get energy from poison crits
oh
It does not, but in ST you play with dashing scoundrel talent which as Roujin said gives energy
i see i see, makes sense. thanks
64 dps too much
why not 169,420
smh
re run the sim
hey, what is our prefered slot for toxic patch?
Delete character memz and start over
ima keep rerunning till i get
might get it on margin
Wrist/belt
ty
ah and one last thing. in raid i play everywhere cs talent except volcoros and smold?
Yeppers
tyty
Everything else has adds to cleave
Or do what I did and forget to swap on Volcross

i may have bis gear
i didnt care enough to change talents off spatter the whole raid
Wow, youāve changed Roujin
ur 461 why do you think you have bis gear
i did forget to swap off IC after council
you'll see
I did nymue yesterday with IC and spatter
from council

You did that for the trash, real gamer
it is rarely easy to detect sarcasm via text, but that one was kinda obvious no?
true and real
second sim was 169,399 so we looking strong
6am too early for sarcasm
thats reasonable
Come back to me
6am is depression time
as kittenz would say: "its a blast"
Kittenz is quiet in raid now, we all bully him
Everyone asks āwhoās speakingā when he says anything
what talents for Tyra Week??
aw man. its funny but kinda sad he doesnt talk as much
I recommend arterial but swap flying daggers for venom rush and play blindside
Can I get a recommendation - I dont currently have toxic thorn footwraps - I almost exclusively play M+ - is it worth opting out and getting 2x crafted items with blue silken lining instead (this stacks?)
crafting first embellishment today
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I went double silk no regrets
Yeah absolutely, plus in raid the dif is kind of whatever. Esp cause youāre not doing mythic prog
what's the silken hp threshold again?
Bsl it up my friend
90%
People forget that you need like 40% uptime or lower for bsl to be meh
You basically always have the buffs up for your opening burst because group damage doesn't happen that early on in fights typically
Strong embellish
And thatās why the crit one sucks
cause it needs time to build stacks
That seems so bad
And when the dmg specially matters u are prob always lower
on really hard pulls/bosses
how much mastery are you guys sitting at? cause im pretty sure I have too much lol
More mastery
yeah like you're basically not getting any silken
60% :/
on the last boss
You need MOAR

60% also zzz
65% for me lol
I only have 50% and the robot wants me to get vers
Do you have branch
yeah
Yeah you almost certainly have too much
Just like@me fr
The robot told me to keep my crit enchants instead of changing it to mastery
seeing your mastery numbers make me think i did something worng
the robot is fuming at my 50% mastery
Because you left me 
just do what robot say
robot good
im a boomer now and cant raid your raid till 1 am schedule
i binked early crit mastery gear so im chillin, can get other pieces with robot help 
Honestly same
i could deffo have simmed wrong somehow havent played in a while lmao
fair
as long as you have something on, it's whatever
but 41% crit 37% mast is definitely not ideal right
should look into fixing that
SO CLOSE
unless your max ilvl dont worry about ideal 
Been enjoying sin lately but idk what to do when im energy starve after spamming envenom while waitin on cds
How important is it to maintain Garrote on multiple targets in M+ build
You chill and pool
count to 5 and env 
Should I prioritize alternating targets for garrote more than applying caustic splatter on one?
Define "pool", english isnt my first language
save energy
wait
Or do I apply caustic splatter on one & move on
Just wait til my energy is at 100?
This shouldn't even be a question
Or full?
hlp, trinket or dagger, got one hero nick 2nd dagger is some rando 463
You apply garrotes in the beginning during Improved Garrote
After that you Mutilate once and maintain Spatter at all times
You spread Garrotes whenever it's off cd
@keen spruce @gusty mirage ok BiS acquired
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Do I just wait til my energy is at what percent before I start spamming again?
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Short and simple :)
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Looks like once we get 4pc we get rid of CT? Is that correct?
frfr?
0 loot lfr + normal. shit vault
maybe heroic 
I had to buy a piece of heroic tier off a pug because I was depressed I havenāt looted any it 2 weeks
Worth tho now I feel special
When using the dungeon build, after the pull rotation, when is the second shiv applied? After dance like in the ST build?
So ive looked around the cd usage a bit and saw this thing in the sim. Why is it using 3 garrote after eachother?
with 6 seconds left in KB
wait no
that's tea
you shiv right as your first one is falling off
Man Iām struggling in keys. Is it because my mastery is so low? Only have 3k
stats don't matter
if you're in lowish keys, assas gonna feel a little weird
cuz shit dies so fast
Can someone Help me With my Rouge "Tachikawa-Blackhand" are my stats wrong or Something i dont do DMG
stats dont matter
There used to be bug wher Garrote became a really good CP generator
Which assa build are you all running for m+ this week ?
5cp per cast iirc; but I think they fixed that bug?
Eben in 18+ keys
ah so it's not accurate? Just once and then refresh later with vanish
9/9 NM and LFR 0 tier drops 
Even*
Yeah I think Iām ass at assassination lmao. Iām consistently 200k outlaw, but barely 120k sin in 18-20ās
Not sure whether it's fixed on live or not, and on top of that whether it's fixed in simc
but either way I'd suggest not using it, and just doing the one garrote
You have a missing dagger transmog, that's why you lose DPS
š
Are you doing aoe sim
Maybe from pre garrote bugfix?
Haha i need 1 more key then i get my 2nd t Set item

And a another Questionen are the daggers from Fall rly Wƶrth IT i was running 11+ times Last week got Not even one
wait u can get head enchant?
there is message earlier about 50 runs for 2 daggers)
i've no idea what it does
In my 18 atal dazar i Just got to 75k dps overall
o,O
What assa build are people running for keys this week?
Skipped s2 ans now i Play Like Shit Sometimes my DPS is good but only maybe 5% of the dungeon
hybrid and ap
do you upload vids on sub
which one did u play last week?
Ap blindside
no dragon tempered blades and poison bomb ?
can do
I am playing with Arterial Shock and it's nice š
both fine
Hmm
what ilvl your pointy pokers at
would this be fine ? sims 1k more than AP blindside
do these rare cases include hugs?
You mean my weapons?
yeah
@dark token @steel spire
Sovietcat 
Really? Link sim?
467 and 463 i think
Has anyone tried the council build in keys yet
But yes just do whatever the highest DMG build is
Is there any macro/weakaura/addon/we that makes it easier to tricks the tank? The way I have it rn is I change my macro every time
Meh
Same bro
Maybe ur 2p 2p is influencing it or lack of burst trinks idk
But use ur highest simming talent build
do i grab fyrakk trinket over tier, even though its not BIS trinket?
might never see it again
yeah probs
If youre an absolute baller take it and gamble that they will buff it
fyrakk trink is not that good for sin
but dont blame me if it doesnt
It's meh
at best
i mean, i will get tier eventually right
its not that good for a lot of classes though, hence why i'd expect it to get buffed since its a super rare
@dark token I followed your advice please dont hurt me
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8fPfLpuTjjd2XvsUn8wPHo
any thing i could change ?
there are times it can proc and you dont even get to full use
Yea but u will also easily replace fyrakk trink
could just be main hand ilvl
Does anyone have a good wa to track kingsbane/shiv etc?
how do you submit a log? just play Sin last night first time really in raid, don't think I messed up much, but a friend was playing sin too, did a bit more than me, but he has branch and some better gear, so just wanted to be sure I was getting the hang of it
Just post it
Wait wat
Don't socket a belt you will replace, socket the 476 toxic patch wrists this week you will use for rest of patch

@keen spruce /wave š

pre tier set do we let our shiv fall off and focus on keeping 50%+ energy ?
when no cooldowns
you take rush over flying daggers for ap this week?
HOLY SHIT YOU ARE RANK4 ASSASSINATION PLAYER MEZUKI

something something eu awakens
the fuck is this vault
Pants good? Pip maybe?
why we keepingh 50%+ energy again?
Iāve seen worse but Iāve also seen a lot better sucks
badge is good, too bad it's not myth track I guess
its actually crazy how many people read this talent and think its somehow the most important thing
i just heard it again and again thats why i asked
Imagine of it was just afk halve the time and refresh dots for energy kol
IF YOU FALL BELOW 50% ENERGY YOU LOSE 500% DAMAGE
how do people feel about that talent acutally
now that dust has settledf a bit
or is it just a whatever it's there
Ur all trolls
@strange python cloak was the best choice according to robot btw
i love everyone getting the big shit while im gettin 1,2k lmao
I don't think this is the case, I think people see a new talent which is very easy to infer a possible playstyle behind. I think it's a very reasonable thing to assume that taking a talent like this would influence your playstyle and incentivize you to get more out of it, it's a good thought process. People asking the question doesn't mean they think it's the most important thing, it's just that they're thinking about their talents and how it influences their play. This brain muscle is good.
I think it's actually the weird and counterintuitive thing is that we don't happen to play around it.
Sanguine Blades: Bleeds deal half damage while under 50% energy, but regenerate 2 energy per tick.
it did ping the wrong person
Tell me I'm wrong
Half damage is not equal to 50% more fyi
You should say bleeds deal 33% less dmg
Thx for telling me I'm wrong
Yeee, u2
hm ?
oh btw
i got HC pants set piece, rest was meh
this was my overall dmg sry š
isn't is funny/weird that Signet sims lower than Hourglass if you have Ashes instead of Branch? I cant make sense of it.
Signet+Ashes is -500 compared to Hourglass+Ashes,
Signet +Branch is +500 compared to Hourglass+Branch
is there a way to update a WA without is resetting the changes i made every time
only thing I can think of, is ashes has haste instead of mainstat and the on-use completely removes the haste
so the smol haste from sandglass ends up being better
yes it must be that, I also hypothesized that since Signet deal damage somewhat constantly it would benefit more the +agi from Branch compared to Ashes
yeah it's some interesting stuff tbh
perfect example of why people should constantly sim upgrades vs following a bis list too 
yeah
Anyone has 17+ everbloom wanna do Im in que 1 hours none taking me I did 18 19...
I still have a hunch that Signet is better in real situations if you can manage good envenom uptime without the extra haste from Hourglass








