#assassination

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shell wigeon
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we had othwr half last week

keen spruce
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we got a half spark last week

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and we get one half this week

shell wigeon
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and next sparks in 2 weeks

austere fulcrum
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ah true i have other half on bag

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thanks man @keen spruce

livid zodiac
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I have yet to loot any weapons 😦 Done so many falls. Still rocking 447 :)))

fierce sigil
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Does somebody Know in the last Boss of atal dazar Deals damage with his uninterruptable Cast now and After that the ticking dot Stays But cant be dispelled? Or is the dot gone?

keen spruce
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@earnest remnant I made it HYPERS

livid zodiac
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My weapons are now my lowest Ilvl items, considering crafting instead of embellish, but not sure if it's the long term best solution

keen spruce
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dont' think it can be dispelled but can be immuned with cloak

cunning thunder
ornate topaz
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the 476 Branch sims around the same as 476 Ashes of the Embersoul for me šŸ˜•

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does it mean I have too much mastery ? šŸ˜„

cunning thunder
keen spruce
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i've seen so many eggshells

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booty ass trinket

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the pvp passive trinket

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insignia of alacrity

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is pretty good

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if you can get it at a high ilvl

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i think they go up to 483 now

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if you're into pvp

grand trail
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yeah im just thinking if those pants are bait or so .. legs are definetly my off tier pieace

keen spruce
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more reliable than dungeon drops

keen spruce
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you could toss on any pair of pants that happen to sim the highest at that time

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depending on your current gear and what not

grim jay
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I mean just look at fuus ST top sim

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It has a vers heavy ring with crit

fierce sigil
keen spruce
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yeah robot is going to want you to pick up those "unfavorable" stats from somewhere

broken ibex
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
grand trail
keen spruce
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dungeon still very easy

grim jay
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Also I'm curious about the pvp on use trinket as it lines up with every kb

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Instead of every DM

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With branch

ornate topaz
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is there "too much mastery" for us? based on the guide it says mastery wins all šŸ˜„

grim jay
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What sims higher wins

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Stats work together

slim hedge
grim jay
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You never should just stack something

ornate topaz
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I dont have Branch but have option to take the Ashes

chilly wasp
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Could i bind Withrebark in Deathmark?

ornate topaz
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thinking about getting the Ashes since my trinkets suck hard...its about 10k DPS for me in sims

keen spruce
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the guide says mastery has slightly more value on average than the other stats given that all else is equal

shell wigeon
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Do we not ambush in SD?

keen spruce
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but all else is never equal

slim hedge
# ornate topaz

There are situations where either one will be more preferable than the other

ornate topaz
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thx guys šŸ™‚

keen spruce
grim jay
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^this

keen spruce
grim jay
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Branch might end up changing what sims better for you on your other gear tho

grand trail
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@keen spruce my biggest dilema rn is if I wanna spend crest on mythic dagger from raid last week. I have 483/480 nick of time rn so 489 normal dagger over it is only like 1k DPS gain

keen spruce
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cuz if you get another nick

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it'll just cost flightstones

grand trail
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It's 45 crest

keen spruce
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but there is the opportunity cost losing the crests ig

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idk weps and trinkets always first

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for me

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with crests

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keep em juiced

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it won't take long for all crests to become redunant

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and saving for perfection is just gonna make you weak now

grand trail
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And I'm super not sure about signet, like everyone play signet on race btw

keen spruce
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i'm not gonna run signet

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unless i see a very compelling reason to

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we just escaped sophic and call to suffering

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why would I put my parse in the hands of another low proc rate trinket

grand trail
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I run Sims and pip is 500 DPS over sandglaas and signet is break even until 6m+

keen spruce
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i'll probably just run pips in evertying once i get one

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cuz it's better in AoE already

grim jay
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Id honestly never run signet if I have something thats only slightly behind even

safe rover
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in AP m+ do we try to stack shiv+KB or use shiv near end of packs for extra execute dmg?

grand trail
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Very hard to get pip, cos it's shared with like every DPS spec šŸ˜„

grim jay
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Sandglass is pretty good

keen spruce
grim jay
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Think its even better st than Pips for me rn

static glacier
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Honestly if I’m stuck with sandglass for prog I ain’t even mad

keen spruce
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high keys, save it for KB

keen spruce
grand trail
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All the raid trinkets sux

keen spruce
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happy to run it

safe rover
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warming up in 17s gonna go 20s later and shit just dies so quick have to use shiv to get pad vs DHs lol

grand trail
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Once you get branch and sandglass there is no real upgrade in raid

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Unless mythic trinkets

austere fulcrum
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sandglass + eggshell overkill on haste or no šŸ˜„

keen spruce
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throw it in the sea

grim jay
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Eggshell only kills your dps

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Nothing else

spice spire
keen spruce
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I said

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fk puzzlebox

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I didn't say it was bad

spice spire
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You literally made a gif throwing it in the sea

keen spruce
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oh true

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but I didn't call it cheeks

gusty mirage
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I can confirm

keen spruce
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and I'd do it again

real sinew
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are people playing the same build on tyran?

gusty mirage
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He said ā€œI don’t care how much it sims for fuck that trinketā€

blazing jewel
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PuzzlerB

keen spruce
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threw like 4 of those things in the blender

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season 1

spice spire
gusty mirage
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DF dungos are done outside of dawn

austere fulcrum
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haha yea i was very unlucky on trinkets so far so i ll use glass and augury for st today i guess

keen spruce
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bomb dispenser and grieftorch elmoburn

spice spire
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Great design

blazing jewel
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Boon SCsniff

keen spruce
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i'd be down to boon it up again

grim jay
paper otter
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which part of tier set will we craft with armor patch ?

gusty mirage
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But nice meme

keen spruce
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beacon and torch elmoburn

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artillery rogue

surreal citrus
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cant wait for my fated grieftorch

gusty mirage
gusty mirage
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Otherwise I wouldn’t have to suffer through fucking throne of tides

grim jay
keen spruce
gusty mirage
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Just delete every cata dungeon man

keen spruce
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was that a tank solo from 50% hp?

gusty mirage
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Shit dungeons

keen spruce
gusty mirage
velvet ridge
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It was a 22, lol, we had 10 mins, played it safe

keen spruce
gusty mirage
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The brewmaster, the warlock and myself had to 3 man Raal from 70% health yesterday

keen spruce
grim jay
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But they will cycle through the seasons dungeonpool, just like fated raidprayge

keen spruce
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look the europeans got home from work and already took a spot from me

gusty mirage
keen spruce
gusty mirage
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Lmao imagine pushing IO

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Fucking nerd

keen spruce
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it fun

spice spire
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@gusty mirage fated is going to have king’s rest dw

keen spruce
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io numba go up

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rank get smol

keen spruce
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dopamine up

spice spire
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Ur so fake for that one

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KR is an illegal dungeon

gusty mirage
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In fact I loved KR

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That was assassination’s best bfa dungeon

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We’d shit on the broken outlaw rogues

keen spruce
velvet ridge
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Ah fuck, I have 2 dungeons undone, and I went to bed, I shoulda pushed for top 10

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Never getting that close again

gusty mirage
empty lava
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u guys recrafting toxic item now for max ilvl or u use this little crest from killing fyrakk and use aspect crests for upgrades instead this week?

cold rampart
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is there a weekly quest this week?

keen spruce
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it's jover

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pack it up

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they're droppin like flies now Despairge

keen spruce
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bracer's aren't a super imporant slot

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and I'd rather use aspects on more impactful stuff atm

empty lava
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y that seems pretty smart atm

gusty mirage
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Y’all have enough wyrms to upgrade your shit to use aspects?

subtle tundra
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ngl dont even fucking want branch

steel spire
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bruh

subtle tundra
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i would've rather not had that slot

empty lava
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bro delete this

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before assasins gonna assasin

gusty mirage
subtle tundra
drifting light
gusty mirage
real stirrup
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I don't have 2pc yet but I definitely take nicky here right?

echo geyser
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I skipped a few patches so im still kinda learning the new upgrade system. Is there any reason to NOT choose the PVP gloves from the hero token? Theyre the same ilvl. The other tier pieces are higher ilvl on the non-pvp, but for gloves its the exact same right?

velvet ridge
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godam it, im getting outta bed to go finish atleast some 19s

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thats like 80 points each

gusty mirage
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end of dungeon

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So it’s if you’re willing to enter the mines or not

hushed fern
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anyone got a sim string for all the pieces with toxifiedarmopatch?

surreal spear
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I saw the stat prio thing here for sin

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But i still stim myself right? instead of trying to get "equal" stats

gusty mirage
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You should absolutely never try to get equal stats

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That is a disaster waiting to happen

whole mantle
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bracer is the best slot for decay?

gusty mirage
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And max crafted gear is -3 ilvl to mythic/myth track gear

neat horizon
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is assa worth playing this week ?

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seeing how adds die fast

velvet ridge
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worth? i have FUN, so its worth to me

whole mantle
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the sudden demise is pumpin this week

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:v

gusty mirage
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It’s worth it if it’s fun for you

neat horizon
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but would i be trolling for going assa ?

whole mantle
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adds dies with 1m hp

gusty mirage
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Why would you be trolling

subtle tundra
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my kingsbane is gonna suddenly demise

neat horizon
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because no time to ramp

subtle tundra
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aswell

real stirrup
gusty mirage
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I mean no flame, but if you have to ask that question spec is irrelevant in your keys

whole mantle
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i only play outlaw in ataldazar this week, but not play assassin as wel

gusty mirage
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If it was a myth track Nick you take it no questions asked

neat horizon
hoary scroll
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Hey. Can i bind dance and kingsbane in one macro?

neat horizon
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im asking which spec performs the best this week

echo geyser
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Guy just wants to know if assass is good this week

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its not that deep

gusty mirage
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Cause it’s hero and you can farm that

drifting cloud
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its good every week

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happy now?

keen spruce
velvet ridge
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it competes enough to not be a troll pick, i would wager that outlaw "performs" better

keen spruce
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but I don't remember

gusty mirage
wide ferry
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^^

echo geyser
neat horizon
hoary scroll
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Hey. Can i bind shadowdance and kingsbane in one macro?

echo geyser
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oxi because it's tyrannical?

velvet ridge
neat horizon
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other people were way more helpful

keen spruce
neat horizon
gusty mirage
keen spruce
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I just don't remember what the reason is

gusty mirage
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I’ll try to remember the rules

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Thanks

neat horizon
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you dont have to reply aswell

vestal schooner
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Beginner question, as assassination, whats the order to put ur 4 poisons? or it doesnt matter

echo geyser
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So I yolo bought the pvp thinking I could sell anyway if I int it for 2 hours

neat horizon
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nobody forcing you to

drifting cloud
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it was before the track system last season shmeeps

gusty mirage
drifting cloud
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actually wait maybe it was lower ilvl in the vendor

echo geyser
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I wonder if the reason is cause last season you needed rank to upgrade your items

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but you dont a nymore right?

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it was lower ilvl in the vendfor @drifting cloud

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still is

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for every item

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except gloves

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gloves is the same as they are both 1/6

keen spruce
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possible

echo geyser
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all pvp pieces are 1/6

keen spruce
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it might be a w/e now

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but if you don't pvp

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why risk it

vestal schooner
keen spruce
neat horizon
echo geyser
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the fact that I can press that button means I dont really need a rank to upgrade them now

gusty mirage
echo geyser
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and right now im in a pve arc

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but it could change you feel

gusty mirage
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People aren’t playing sub because the 2pc is pulling half the dungeon

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But yeah, down bad

keen spruce
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has nothing to do with what order you equip them on your seps

vestal schooner
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oh so all poisons get 30% less application

neat horizon
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Didnt know we had 10 year olds in this channel like this guy

vestal schooner
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thanks

keen spruce
keen spruce
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ol' bastard

gusty mirage
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You came in here and asked a question with zero context and got upset at the reply. Don’t know what to tell ya bud

neat horizon
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imagine being so mentally challenged that you gotta shove your ego up people's faces when they ask something you somehow find offensive

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just dont answer bro

drifting cloud
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nice speedrunning a mute

neat horizon
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it aint that hard

keen spruce
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imagine imagining

neat horizon
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nobody asked you to

drifting cloud
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my dude your spec doesnt matter in your +14 keys

gusty mirage
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Must’ve hurt your ego with my first reply

neat horizon
keen spruce
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wait lemmy scroll up i missed this

neat horizon
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your attitude just sucks tbf

keen spruce
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the play is under review

drifting cloud
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so the affixes dont have any impact on the spec you play

subtle tundra
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@gusty mirage what if i cook a sepsis build for smolderon

drifting cloud
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but because youre a casual player you havent yet realized that

subtle tundra
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omega fat juicy cock bursts

subtle tundra
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this branch trinket

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no cap

gusty mirage
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Fair

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You try using it with 4 other melee using it yet?

subtle tundra
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i havent even taken it from the vault

gusty mirage
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12 balls flying everywhere gl finding yours

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Lmao

subtle tundra
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sounds like my dream

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12 balls around me

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HUH

royal lantern
spice spire
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HUH

spice spire
real stirrup
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With the 2pc is there any difference to the rotation?

spice spire
gusty mirage
# neat horizon imagine being so mentally challenged that you gotta shove your ego up people's f...

Btw I would highly refrain from using terms like ā€œmentally challengedā€ to a moderator. Insinuating people have mental illnesses because your ego is bruised is no bueno. Also insulting people who are mentally challenged is 100% against our rules. So I’ll let this slide because I very clearly hurt your feelings but next time don’t be so upset that your question got dismissed

keen spruce
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After reviewing the play, Oxi gave a pretty regular ass answer to a pretty silly question and only called you out on your silliness after you pressed him about it multiple times.

The angy on the play is overturned.

first down

oak tangle
spice spire
neat horizon
neat horizon
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people ask here to seek help

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not everyone's no lifing the game

wide ferry
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its like nah every single sin rogues gotta respec now 🤣

drifting cloud
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youre asking to play assa in keys in assa channel bozo, what do you think the anwer will be

gusty mirage
neat horizon
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the answer would be help regarding how i play assa better

ember mural
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The rare double down

gusty mirage
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You didn’t ask for help

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You asked if it’s troll

neat horizon
oak tangle
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you literally asked if palying assassin is trolling, how does the answer to that make you play assass better

keen spruce
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everyone pretty much gave the same answer

spice spire
keen spruce
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they said play what you think is fun

lyric grail
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What’s the difference between splatter and the rupture dmg ?

keen spruce
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and then you just kept asking the same fkin question

lyric grail
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Is it aoe/st?

empty timber
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!up

keen spruce
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"but is it troll"

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no mfer

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play what you want

sturdy mesa
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spec makes no difference unless you're pushing top keys

neat horizon
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im asking about this week in specific where adds die fast and you cant ramp properly, as i said not everyone's been playing this class for millions of years

keen spruce
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they already said that multiple times

neat horizon
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we ask here to be guided

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so chill your high horses

sturdy mesa
keen spruce
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if adds are dying so fast that you can't ramp

ember mural
keen spruce
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then you're in too low of a key

wide ferry
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Facts

keen spruce
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in which case

echo geyser
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w

keen spruce
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it doesn't fking matter what you play

echo geyser
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That's cap though

keen spruce
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nothing is trolling

echo geyser
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Even in 22 last week with fortified

oak tangle
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adds don't just fall over, and if they are you are doing low keys, where there is no trolling in a key, because your tank is busy pulling 140% trash

keen spruce
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everything is fine

neat horizon
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So what would the better spec be for these keys then ?

keen spruce
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do what you want

echo geyser
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your kingsbane target would die fast sometimes

neat horizon
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where we cant ramp ?

royal lantern
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rule of thumb

of you need too ask "is X spec "trolling" " you are ages away of playing on a level where class or spec choices will do anything at all lol

keen spruce
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it literally doesn't matter

keen spruce
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because things are dying so fast

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if you problem in the dungeon is things are dying too fast

keen spruce
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then there is no problem

gusty mirage
sturdy mesa
keen spruce
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like what are we trying to solve here

spice spire
gusty mirage
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It’s like they just always have damage all the time

oak tangle
gusty mirage
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It’s absolutely wild

wide ferry
keen spruce
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are we winning

gusty mirage
spice spire
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No

sturdy mesa
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they dash in use bladedance and do 500k PepeHands

royal lantern
keen spruce
agile wedge
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team is there a rule of thumb when it is worth to pop my full dm kb window in m+? mostly going 20ish keys currently. i am new to sin but i already notice, that my kb doesnt go through fully, so maybe i choose the wrong packs

latent onyx
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!wa

gusty mirage
oak tangle
neat horizon
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havoc's a party pooper

gusty mirage
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Esp if everyone’s just blasting CDs

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Also sudden demise is 10/10 for trolling your healers this week, go forth and save your cloak

fallen knoll
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havoc just not aoe capped or some shit, their dps is ridiculous

gusty mirage
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We hit 18 stacks of bursting in an everbloom yesterday

oak tangle
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their 2pc is stronk

gusty mirage
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Our healer was screaming

keen spruce
agile wedge
wide ferry
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if only i could get my nasty envenom bombs along w AP build

royal lantern
neat horizon
keen spruce
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sudden demise can also randomly troll your atal dazars on vokal

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when it pops your totem from an unexpected %

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and everyone's scramblin to catch up

velvet ridge
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thats why i just dont put my bleeds on the totems

drifting cloud
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what kinds of dots have you put on there

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so it pops

subtle tundra
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what the hell you doing to be ahead of everyone else

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are you using kb?!?

keen spruce
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no it hasn't happened in higher keys

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but in bby keys

gusty mirage
keen spruce
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demise destroys those things

rancid crypt
dusty trellis
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this week for tyranical better arterial build ?

subtle tundra
rancid crypt
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got this in vault, how/when do we use this?

steel spire
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!dagger

gusty mirage
keen spruce
hardy spruce
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Sin is so fun in M+ tho even with those difficulties ā¤ļø

keen spruce
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cuz i like blindside smile_dog

drifting cloud
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damn tryhard

keen spruce
gusty mirage
keen spruce
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but i play with sound

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so i hear them

drifting cloud
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this game has sound??

subtle tundra
keen spruce
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they make a little gushy sound

gusty mirage
drifting cloud
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outed

gusty mirage
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Turn down YouTube

whole mantle
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with 0p, is better play with 4poisons or just arterial precision?

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this week

keen spruce
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mutilate is kind of a kershik
ambush is more of a kerspush

steel spire
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mfd sound mvp

oak tangle
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after a patch of spriest and then 3-4 months away from the game, i can feel myself developing carpal tunnel in my left hand

gusty mirage
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We hardly knew him

smoky leaf
oak tangle
subtle tundra
royal lantern
gusty mirage
steel spire
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mfd sniping sucked but damn was it pog

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law sbs bussin

echo geyser
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Regarding the crafted toxic patch piece, my wrists have a socket and are crit/mastery. Meanwhile my belt is the one listed on wowhead as bis, but no socket. Where would you recommend I make my crafted piece?

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Both 470 ilvl

subtle tundra
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buddy

gusty mirage
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Sockets big dam

subtle tundra
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someone had to be necro

echo geyser
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Yea I was thinking the same

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Tyty

gusty mirage
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It’s nutty how much damage a socket actually is

fallen knoll
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Is it really

gusty mirage
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It was something like 500-600 dps last tier each

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Which is kind of wild lol

steel geyser
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how are we supposed to sim toxic patch in droptimizer

echo geyser
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Is it actually that much? I got 4 pc "naturally" so I was thinking to just hold my catalyst for a myth track item, but I do have a helmet with a socket I could just catalyst instead

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And that way I wouldn't have to run the legs

brazen oasis
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anyone has the sim text for wep. runes, consumables etc. from whis?

keen spruce
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sockies very stronk

fallen knoll
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Socks busted then

keen spruce
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like

cobalt violet
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either arterial or hybrid build have any certain advantage on tyrannical weeks? or still around equal?

echo geyser
strange python
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Do u like the dagger + trinket

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or not ?

gusty mirage
keen spruce
gusty mirage
echo geyser
keen spruce
echo geyser
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I got branch after 30 runs

strange python
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i did 60+ galakrond so

echo geyser
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Still not a single dagger and you want two T_T

oak tangle
echo geyser
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Congrats though

strange python
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even trinket

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483

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xd

gusty mirage
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@brazen oasis #assassination message here ya go friend, slap that at the end of your simc input in an advanced sim

brazen oasis
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merci

weak crescent
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is taking wrists generally better ?

gusty mirage
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Can also take the dif consumables and run them separately

gusty mirage
oak tangle
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i had a socketed belt, so i went bracers

gusty mirage
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Essentially it’s a craft in whatever slot you have lower ilvl/no socket in. If they’re the same then it’s whatever you prefer

pure sail
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How do we pool energy with 4p? Do we stay above 50% regardless ?

oak tangle
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technically belt is a better option for m+

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cause you can craft engi rez bracers

gusty mirage
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Tru

weak crescent
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okay thanks!

strange python
subtle tundra
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no cap, im probably going internal bleeding

sick eagle
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is it worth dropping sudden demise for bursting? was having a hard time earlier with stacks cuz of it

gusty mirage
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You could probably get away with that depending on how trash damage is for the rest of the group

oak tangle
mint kindle
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Is the hybrid m+ in wowhead's guide build the one that most people play? It sims the highest for me

oak tangle
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i am a fan of the ap build, but i run with a dh that deletes things

gusty mirage
keen spruce
summer cedar
#

!wa

keen spruce
#

less in throne

mint kindle
gusty mirage
#

AP build is just more fun for me so I play that

keen spruce
#

more like 5% in throne

hardy spruce
gusty mirage
#

For tyran I swap flying daggers for venom rush and I run blindside all the time so I don’t want to alt f4 during ST

mint kindle
gusty mirage
finite mountain
#

If you got 4piece is there a change in ther playsytle/talents? Or do you just spam envenom?

gusty mirage
keen spruce
#

ap build much fin

#

fun

#

i'm gonna try venom rush

gusty mirage
#

And we like not being energy starved

keen spruce
#

sounds nice

hardy spruce
#

Do you play the "classic" build anyway on tyra week oxi ? Or you also try arterial ?

gusty mirage
#

Cause otherwise you sit there sad

limber lion
#

okay getting like 40ilvl upgrades from vault is pretty fun

#

one dungeon and 40 ilvl upgrade the next day

#

shesh

hardy spruce
#

okay gotcha šŸ™‚

gusty mirage
#

It’s too much fun for some reason, plus sudden demise to make your healers hate you KEKW

keen spruce
#

alway arty

hardy spruce
#

Yeah I love it haha

mint kindle
finite mountain
gusty mirage
#

ā€œOh shit whoops we rolled bursting from 5 to 11 darnā€

keen spruce
#

"stop damage"

#

u see i just sent a tempest

wide ferry
#

before i go look, is there a rotation on wowhead for AP? Im on mcdonalds wifi at my mother in laws

gusty mirage
limber lion
#

my poison reapplication macro doesn't work huh

gusty mirage
gray crest
#

"healer mechanic"

keen spruce
#

cloak is exclusively saved for rezan screams

#

and bursting

finite mountain
#

aight guys, i got 4p now, is there any talent /rota change now ?

keen spruce
#

nope

#

just that pooling and chaining enveoms is more important

finite mountain
#

no envonom spam now or smth ?

keen spruce
#

but you shoulda been doing that already

finite mountain
agile geode
#

there is no need to track wa for 2p buff right?

#

we just play around 4p envenom buff we dont care to track that, is it correct?

oak tangle
#

i track my dots, kb cd, and my envenom buff

#

and shiv charges / debuff

fallen knoll
#

You don't track ic?

oak tangle
#

how and why?

gusty mirage
wide ferry
#

Using Ap, shiv is much more important in the rotation right?

fallen knoll
oak tangle
#

idk, never been in a situation where i had to worry, or know of one where you'd need it

gusty mirage
opaque oriole
#

finally got two daggers, took exactly 50 runs if some1 need to know šŸ˜„

finite mountain
#

lol

#

gg

fallow acorn
#

I'm at ~30 and have seen 0 daggers

#

one trinket, though

oak tangle
finite mountain
#

i got 38 runs on EB trinket kekw

wide ferry
#

@opaque oriole dude i mean this w all due respect, fuck you ā¤ļø

gusty mirage
#

I refuse to step into Dawn this week. I just can’t do it

#

Im over that entire shit dungeon both wings too

wide ferry
#

which level is everyone runnin Fall on to farm those? 14?

drifting light
fallow acorn
gusty mirage
fallen knoll
finite mountain
oak tangle
#

i'm a lil rookie at 14, but no sign yet

agile tangle
#

is wowhead good reference for crafted gear?

wide ferry
#

17!? Ugh fuck me

gusty mirage
agile wedge
#

okay i just thought there is not only improved garrote, there is improved rupture as well? šŸ˜„ but this is not correct?

oak tangle
#

if my mathematics was correct, dagger is a 6.66% chance

gusty mirage
#

You can snapshot nightstalker into rupture as well ye

fallen knoll
#

If you consider improved rupture that is being snapshotted then yes

#

But I've been told the dps diff isn't that big, not sure tho

gusty mirage
#

Yea it’s not worth forcing it

agile wedge
#

i just got a wrong understanding

gusty mirage
#

Much easier to turn off brain and just blast envenoms Okay

agile wedge
#

thought its the same as garrote and now i became clear

#

thanks!

granite oar
#

Worth upgrading chest to 463 and making it tier so i can have 2pc with gloves? or should i farm for better chest and wait? i have 4pc t30 at 450

gusty mirage
#

If not run those and pray for some tier and rolling luck, hang on to the catalyst charge in case you get something higher ilvl later

granite oar
#

I have not. you are right ill wait

gusty mirage
#

But we do get a 2nd charge next week

#

So it’s not too bad if you just send it

dark token
#

Would you guys take mythic tier hest or mythic tier shoulder from vault Hmm

fallen knoll
#

Not a big fan of the catalyst changes but it is what it is

tall atlas
#

always send it

gusty mirage
dark token
#

Chest sims 350 DPS higher but shoulder drops of smolderon

tall atlas
#

theyve made it easier than ever to gear

#

just send always

gusty mirage
#

But probably shoulders

gray crest
#

Pretty sure a lot of people would like mythic head

tall atlas
#

do what your heart tells you

#

never mind the sims

atomic night
#

Hi everyone. Is there a way to do a dummy parse without vanish resetting details?

fallen knoll
#

Sims are for the posers

dark token
#

My heart is telling me shoulder in case mythic chest drops off nymue

prisma monolithBOT
tall atlas
#

believe in the heart of the cards

atomic night
gusty mirage
tall atlas
golden spoke
#

Hi guys, do you know if agument rune is cheaper at 20 renown??? Can you show SC

fallen knoll
#

Did you just assume it's gender

polar bridge
#

a bit low for the ilvl? im missing fall daggers and a better 2nd trinket not sure else how to improve over more ilvl

gusty mirage
polar bridge
#

hmm alright was thinking I should be closer to 200k

true swift
#

What slot should we craft our toxic patch in?

gusty mirage
#

Good thing is, is the unlock is account wide

#

So you get it for alts too

rare jackal
fallen knoll
true swift
#

ty

dark token
#

Get some timestrike dags

echo geyser
#

How does the 4pc make you less energy starved ? Does "increased attack speed" work more like haste and gives us energy regen?

#

caus the "attack speed" from snd doesnt give energy regen right?

true swift
#

convenient didnt get any gear in either of those slots

polar bridge
gray crest
#

you get energy from poison crits

echo geyser
#

oh

gusty mirage
echo geyser
#

i see i see, makes sense. thanks

oak tangle
#

64 dps too much

keen spruce
#

smh

#

re run the sim

stable atlas
#

hey, what is our prefered slot for toxic patch?

gusty mirage
#

Delete character memz and start over

oak tangle
#

ima keep rerunning till i get

keen spruce
#

might get it on margin

gusty mirage
stable atlas
#

ty

agile wedge
#

ah and one last thing. in raid i play everywhere cs talent except volcoros and smold?

gusty mirage
#

Yeppers

agile wedge
#

tyty

gusty mirage
#

Everything else has adds to cleave

#

Or do what I did and forget to swap on Volcross

oak tangle
#

i may have bis gear

gray crest
#

i didnt care enough to change talents off spatter the whole raid

gusty mirage
#

Wow, you’ve changed Roujin

lone creek
#

ur 461 why do you think you have bis gear

gray crest
#

i did forget to swap off IC after council

oak tangle
#

you'll see

keen spruce
#

from council

gusty mirage
obsidian ridge
gray crest
#

true and real

oak tangle
#

second sim was 169,399 so we looking strong

gusty mirage
#

Roujin I miss raiding with you

obsidian ridge
gusty mirage
#

Come back to me

real stirrup
gray crest
gusty mirage
#

Everyone asks ā€œwho’s speakingā€ when he says anything

ivory ridge
#

what talents for Tyra Week??

gray crest
#

aw man. its funny but kinda sad he doesnt talk as much

gusty mirage
low quartz
#

Can I get a recommendation - I dont currently have toxic thorn footwraps - I almost exclusively play M+ - is it worth opting out and getting 2x crafted items with blue silken lining instead (this stacks?)

#

crafting first embellishment today

left sundial
#

!wa

polar bridge
#

I went double silk no regrets

slim hamlet
#

Silken seems like the biggest sim bait to me for m+

#

idk

gusty mirage
keen spruce
#

what's the silken hp threshold again?

gusty mirage
#

Bsl it up my friend

slim hamlet
gusty mirage
#

People forget that you need like 40% uptime or lower for bsl to be meh

polar bridge
#

You basically always have the buffs up for your opening burst because group damage doesn't happen that early on in fights typically

gusty mirage
#

Strong embellish

keen spruce
#

idk

#

maybe good enough

#

hard to estimate

gusty mirage
# keen spruce

And that’s why the crit one sucks KEKW cause it needs time to build stacks

slim hamlet
#

That seems so bad

#

And when the dmg specially matters u are prob always lower

#

on really hard pulls/bosses

gray crest
#

how much mastery are you guys sitting at? cause im pretty sure I have too much lol

gusty mirage
#

More mastery

keen spruce
#

yeah like you're basically not getting any silken

steel spire
#

60% :/

keen spruce
#

on the last boss

gusty mirage
#

You need MOAR

keen spruce
polar bridge
#

60% also zzz

gray crest
#

65% for me lol

keen spruce
#

I only have 50% and the robot wants me to get vers

gray crest
#

yeah

gusty mirage
#

GOT EM

spice spire
#

Yeah you almost certainly have too much

spice spire
echo geyser
#

The robot told me to keep my crit enchants instead of changing it to mastery

#

seeing your mastery numbers make me think i did something worng

keen spruce
#

the robot is fuming at my 50% mastery

limber lion
#

robot good

gray crest
#

im a boomer now and cant raid your raid till 1 am schedule

echo geyser
#

but when user dumb

#

maybe robot bad

#

you feel

steel spire
#

i binked early crit mastery gear so im chillin, can get other pieces with robot help ApuSmile

gusty mirage
echo geyser
#

i could deffo have simmed wrong somehow havent played in a while lmao

limber lion
#

at the end of the day enchants make no difference

#

so

echo geyser
#

fair

limber lion
#

as long as you have something on, it's whatever

echo geyser
#

but 41% crit 37% mast is definitely not ideal right

echo geyser
#

should look into fixing that

oak tangle
#

SO CLOSE

steel spire
#

unless your max ilvl dont worry about ideal rave

limber lion
#

I'm so massive it's actually disgusting

halcyon hamlet
#

Been enjoying sin lately but idk what to do when im energy starve after spamming envenom while waitin on cds

mint kindle
#

How important is it to maintain Garrote on multiple targets in M+ build

limber lion
#

Very

#

Like one of the most important things

steel spire
#

count to 5 and env 2ez

mint kindle
#

Should I prioritize alternating targets for garrote more than applying caustic splatter on one?

halcyon hamlet
gray crest
#

save energy

limber lion
#

wait

mint kindle
#

Or do I apply caustic splatter on one & move on

limber lion
#

don't press buttons

#

and just wait

halcyon hamlet
#

Just wait til my energy is at 100?

limber lion
halcyon hamlet
#

Or full?

fallen knoll
#

hlp, trinket or dagger, got one hero nick 2nd dagger is some rando 463

limber lion
#

You apply garrotes in the beginning during Improved Garrote

limber lion
#

After that you Mutilate once and maintain Spatter at all times

#

You spread Garrotes whenever it's off cd

oak tangle
halcyon hamlet
#

Do I just wait til my energy is at what percent before I start spamming again?

halcyon hamlet
#

ty ty

rapid tree
#

Looks like once we get 4pc we get rid of CT? Is that correct?

steel spire
#

PogO frfr?

midnight atlas
#

0 loot lfr + normal. shit vault ionsadhours maybe heroic copium

rotund wagon
#

I had to buy a piece of heroic tier off a pug because I was depressed I haven’t looted any it 2 weeks

#

Worth tho now I feel special

mint kindle
#

When using the dungeon build, after the pull rotation, when is the second shiv applied? After dance like in the ST build?

tight condor
#

So ive looked around the cd usage a bit and saw this thing in the sim. Why is it using 3 garrote after eachother?

keen spruce
#

wait no

#

that's tea

#

you shiv right as your first one is falling off

mint kindle
#

Ok like ST then

#

ty

craggy river
#

Man I’m struggling in keys. Is it because my mastery is so low? Only have 3k

keen spruce
#

if you're in lowish keys, assas gonna feel a little weird

#

cuz shit dies so fast

mental pagoda
#

Can someone Help me With my Rouge "Tachikawa-Blackhand" are my stats wrong or Something i dont do DMG

willow kite
neat horizon
#

Which assa build are you all running for m+ this week ?

willow kite
#

5cp per cast iirc; but I think they fixed that bug?

mental pagoda
tight condor
bleak ivy
#

9/9 NM and LFR 0 tier drops peepohappy

mental pagoda
#

Even*

craggy river
willow kite
#

but either way I'd suggest not using it, and just doing the one garrote

empty timber
tight condor
#

šŸ‘

tight condor
#

no

#

This is the sim from the fuu's sheet

willow kite
#

Maybe from pre garrote bugfix?

mental pagoda
mental pagoda
#

And a another Questionen are the daggers from Fall rly Wƶrth IT i was running 11+ times Last week got Not even one

hot fulcrum
mental pagoda
#

Shit Auto correction

#

Uff

oak tangle
mental pagoda
#

In my 18 atal dazar i Just got to 75k dps overall

oak tangle
#

o,O

mental pagoda
#

I Player assa in s1 Just fine

#

Played

neat horizon
#

What assa build are people running for keys this week?

mental pagoda
#

Skipped s2 ans now i Play Like Shit Sometimes my DPS is good but only maybe 5% of the dungeon

dark token
#

Same as last week

#

Actually

steel spire
#

hybrid and ap

dark token
#

I'm gonna do sub keys this week

#

Sub kicks ass in tyrannical

#
  • practice for smolderon
steel spire
#

do you upload vids on sub

neat horizon
dark token
#

Ap blindside

neat horizon
#

no dragon tempered blades and poison bomb ?

steel spire
#

can do

pseudo hamlet
#

I am playing with Arterial Shock and it's nice šŸ™‚

steel spire
#

both fine

mental pagoda
#

I dont get it..

#

How

dark token
#

Sims worse

neat horizon
#

Hmm

dark token
#

I do what robot tells me

#

Except in rare cases

oak tangle
neat horizon
#

would this be fine ? sims 1k more than AP blindside

royal lantern
mental pagoda
oak tangle
neat horizon
dark token
#

Sovietcat Hmm

neat horizon
#

shit

#

haha

dark token
mental pagoda
crude pasture
#

Has anyone tried the council build in keys yet

dark token
#

But yes just do whatever the highest DMG build is

echo geyser
#

Is there any macro/weakaura/addon/we that makes it easier to tricks the tank? The way I have it rn is I change my macro every time

crude pasture
#

Same bro

mental pagoda
#

How do you Sim so high

#

Set Bonus ?

dark token
#

Maybe ur 2p 2p is influencing it or lack of burst trinks idk

#

But use ur highest simming talent build

quartz kraken
#

do i grab fyrakk trinket over tier, even though its not BIS trinket?

#

might never see it again

echo geyser
#

If youre an absolute baller take it and gamble that they will buff it

soft shale
#

fyrakk trink is not that good for sin

echo geyser
#

but dont blame me if it doesnt

quartz kraken
#

i mean, i will get tier eventually right

echo geyser
#

its not that good for a lot of classes though, hence why i'd expect it to get buffed since its a super rare

oak tangle
#

@dark token I followed your advice please dont hurt me

strange trail
soft shale
#

there are times it can proc and you dont even get to full use

slim hamlet
#

Yea but u will also easily replace fyrakk trink

quartz kraken
#

i have a 437 stats proc one

#

and mirror from DOTI

oak tangle
shadow owl
#

Does anyone have a good wa to track kingsbane/shiv etc?

desert vault
#

how do you submit a log? just play Sin last night first time really in raid, don't think I messed up much, but a friend was playing sin too, did a bit more than me, but he has branch and some better gear, so just wanted to be sure I was getting the hang of it

spice spire
#

Just post it

desert vault
#

vanish in the KB is anywhere <3s right?

dark token
#

Don't socket a belt you will replace, socket the 476 toxic patch wrists this week you will use for rest of patch

subtle kiln
velvet ridge
#

@keen spruce /wave šŸ‘‹

keen spruce
weak crescent
#

pre tier set do we let our shiv fall off and focus on keeping 50%+ energy ?

#

when no cooldowns

steel spire
#

you take rush over flying daggers for ap this week?

royal lantern
velvet ridge
#

something something eu awakens

dark token
#

Still working

#

And then raid toniht

#

No keys till tomorrow

royal lantern
#

the fuck is this vault

steel spire
#

Pog pip

spice spire
abstract flicker
#

why we keepingh 50%+ energy again?

spice spire
#

I’ve seen worse but I’ve also seen a lot better sucks

royal lantern
#

who says we do lol

devout prism
#

badge is good, too bad it's not myth track I guess

steel spire
#

we dont play around it

#

just happens

drifting cloud
#

its actually crazy how many people read this talent and think its somehow the most important thing

abstract flicker
#

i just heard it again and again thats why i asked

normal reef
#

Imagine of it was just afk halve the time and refresh dots for energy kol

cunning needle
#

IF YOU FALL BELOW 50% ENERGY YOU LOSE 500% DAMAGE

#

how do people feel about that talent acutally

#

now that dust has settledf a bit

#

or is it just a whatever it's there

steel spire
#

needs a buff tbhj

#

1k % dmg

spice spire
#

Ur all trolls

strange python
#

@clever perch

royal lantern
#

@strange python cloak was the best choice according to robot btw

i love everyone getting the big shit while im gettin 1,2k lmao

slate crown
# drifting cloud its actually crazy how many people read this talent and think its somehow the mo...

I don't think this is the case, I think people see a new talent which is very easy to infer a possible playstyle behind. I think it's a very reasonable thing to assume that taking a talent like this would influence your playstyle and incentivize you to get more out of it, it's a good thought process. People asking the question doesn't mean they think it's the most important thing, it's just that they're thinking about their talents and how it influences their play. This brain muscle is good.

I think it's actually the weird and counterintuitive thing is that we don't happen to play around it.

velvet ridge
#

Sanguine Blades: Bleeds deal half damage while under 50% energy, but regenerate 2 energy per tick.

royal lantern
#

it did ping the wrong person

velvet ridge
#

Tell me I'm wrong

royal lantern
#

wanted too ping green name

#

the fuck

#

@spice spire you

spice spire
#

?

#

Oh above

#

That’s wild

dark token
#

You should say bleeds deal 33% less dmg

velvet ridge
#

Thx for telling me I'm wrong

dark token
#

No problem

#

Have a nice day

velvet ridge
#

Yeee, u2

strange python
#

oh btw

#

i got HC pants set piece, rest was meh

#

this was my overall dmg sry šŸ˜„

swift magnet
#

isn't is funny/weird that Signet sims lower than Hourglass if you have Ashes instead of Branch? I cant make sense of it.
Signet+Ashes is -500 compared to Hourglass+Ashes,
Signet +Branch is +500 compared to Hourglass+Branch

split veldt
#

is there a way to update a WA without is resetting the changes i made every time

strange python
#

uh

#

reload UI

gusty mirage
#

so the smol haste from sandglass ends up being better

swift magnet
#

yes it must be that, I also hypothesized that since Signet deal damage somewhat constantly it would benefit more the +agi from Branch compared to Ashes

gusty mirage
#

yeah it's some interesting stuff tbh

#

perfect example of why people should constantly sim upgrades vs following a bis list too KEKW

swift magnet
#

yeah

faint path
#

Anyone has 17+ everbloom wanna do Im in que 1 hours none taking me I did 18 19...

swift magnet
#

I still have a hunch that Signet is better in real situations if you can manage good envenom uptime without the extra haste from Hourglass