#assassination

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devout prism
haughty flicker
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rip my game

fallen forge
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no tier no dagger see you fucks in 11.0

wide ferry
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ugh we gettin nerfed

keen spruce
languid summit
keen spruce
gusty mirage
dark token
lucid rain
wide ferry
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@gusty mirage Cuz life is cruel

gusty mirage
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Damn, that’s real

dark token
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That's no mythic track isn't it

gusty mirage
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I can’t even argue

spice spire
haughty flicker
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huge vault

languid summit
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Its an alt?

keen spruce
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my vault ain't workin

amber palm
oak tangle
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no dice

gusty mirage
fallen forge
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nvm me simmy

languid summit
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so tier, or dagger?

haughty flicker
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its so cursed

wide ferry
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Dagger all day

ivory wasp
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any vaults i love to watch vaults

haughty flicker
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guess i cant be too mad at tier

wide ferry
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That shit doesnt exist

fervent scroll
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did you guya even trry doing 20s

royal lantern
dark token
cerulean nest
willow vine
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please no capes

dark token
lucid rain
spice spire
lucid rain
haughty flicker
nova flax
royal lantern
slate crown
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Honestly any myth track pieces are great

haughty flicker
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hm

willow vine
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nick of time pog

subtle tundra
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not watching this chat

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anymore

slate crown
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I'm still on loading screen boss, I got insta DC'd

dark token
spice spire
amber palm
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well, I've had a lot worse

gentle belfry
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Whats the move.. dagger or tier?

oak tangle
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taking my myth track piece is a choice against guranteed 4pc

amber palm
keen spruce
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oh it's workin

wide ferry
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dagger

keen spruce
slate crown
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Dagger

inland axle
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highest ilvl Belt versus lower ilvl but tier Set pants ?

dark token
cerulean nest
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prob signet brand for me

tame cloak
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time to SIM

lucid rain
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well I guess I should be happy I got bis non-tier legs

tame cloak
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jk ill sim myself into the trash LMAO

dark token
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489 dag is only 0.4% up for me over 483 timestrike

spice spire
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It’s time to sim brethren

keen spruce
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mother fuck

spice spire
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Justice in the world

willow vine
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take neck swap to outlaw ez

spice spire
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Shmeeps got a bad vault (I’m a hater)

final halo
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Do we wanna go 2-2 or keep t30 4pc?

keen spruce
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I DID 90 FUCKIN KEYS THIS WEEK

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I DESERVE BETTER

lucid silo
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i go tier helm here right?

spice spire
keen spruce
thorn fjord
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Shit vault

spice spire
peak bobcat
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i am depressed

slate crown
split cipher
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!sims

prisma monolithBOT
drifting light
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dagger or shoulders?? hmm

spice spire
haughty flicker
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im feeling better about at least having catalyst fodder after seeing some of these vaults

flat kindle
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
oak tangle
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i need help, champion track tier, for guranteed 4pc, or myth track gloves and catalyse

thorny pond
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50 keys and I get this shit

twilit sequoia
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In the wowhead guide, there are two main talent builds for M+, "Arterial Shock" and "Hybrid". Which do you prefer and why? Which does more damage?

spice spire
fallow acorn
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my vault isn't working 😦

peak bobcat
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i did legitimately 100 keys

thorny pond
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have 4pc

peak bobcat
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for some fucking garbage

lucid rain
spice spire
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Gotta use the noggin

fallow acorn
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lol best item is bracers ffs

dark token
north wren
dark token
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Only beaten by mythic signet

dark token
abstract jacinth
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oh dats nice

spice spire
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Nick and branch

winged widget
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my only myth track slot was blessed 😄

haughty flicker
dark token
drifting light
wet agate
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Bro got every hit

wide ferry
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RNG is fucked

north wren
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my head hurts

peak bobcat
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sandglass seems pretty ass

subtle tundra
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you americanos stealing all the rng for eu

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not ok

magic fossil
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go for mythic neck or branch or heroic head?

inland axle
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so priority to tier set items even if lower ilvl right ?

modest furnace
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guys is there a softcap we should be aimingfor, for haste? and do we only get items in the vault from dungeons we cleared?

warped lily
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guys what i have to do different with 2 pieces?

devout prism
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branch bro are you kidding me lol

dark token
devout prism
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actually those legs are also bis

keen spruce
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I NEED TO CLOSE THIS CHANNEL I'M GONNA CRY

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MY VAULT PES_Hands

peak bobcat
magic fossil
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branch? but i dont have 2 piece yet

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fuck me

fallow acorn
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LOL

slim hamlet
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Alrgith now I have a 20 everbloom +2'd, does this mean I will get invited to +17 everblooms?

magic fossil
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branch will be hard to see again

devout prism
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man are you really asking or are you trollin lol

magic fossil
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really asking

blazing roost
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what stats should i aim for the crafting wrists? crit mastery or crit haste?

magic fossil
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i dont have 2 piece 😐

modest furnace
magic fossil
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only have one

slim hamlet
modest furnace
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Tough luck then buddy

dark token
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U get tier guarantee by week 5

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You won't see branch for 25 weeks

fallow acorn
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lol

modest furnace
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I'm staying in q with my +16 everbloom until nwaoh signs up

magic fossil
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right, i was nervous

fallow acorn
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do you have two catalyst charges now?

magic fossil
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branch it is

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thanks guys

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oof.

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almost fucked up

wet agate
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Man my vault is literal cheeks

lone creek
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anyone else get FUCKED by blizzard today

drifting light
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will a maxed out hero track nick of time outdps a maxed out myth track regular dagger?

spice spire
haughty flicker
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hm

dark token
past bobcat
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Mydas is actually a decent trinket wdym

dark token
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Take it for sub and smolderon prog

spice spire
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Outlaw likes mydas at least

past bobcat
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Sure it’s not branch buts it’s still very competitive

spice spire
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We don’t mind it

dark token
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Also ur outlaw flair

blazing roost
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what stats should i aim for the crafting wrists? crit mastery or crit haste?

dark token
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Go mydas

lone creek
modest furnace
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can someone answer this? anybody knows? is there a softcap we should be aimingfor, for haste? and do we only get items in the vault from dungeons we cleared?

subtle tundra
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he tagged whispyr

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for that

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AAAAAAAAAAA

subtle tundra
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🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺

spice spire
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Our stat priority is fluid and will change constantly

dark token
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Bahahaha

spice spire
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You’re just gonna have to use raidbots

dark token
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I can't wait for whispyr response

lucid silo
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help me out family

fallow acorn
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we should tag whispyr for our vault screenshots so he can help us decide

thorn fjord
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He would love that

subtle tundra
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you know what

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i will do that if i remember

slim pebble
fallow acorn
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pls don't ban

slate crown
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Is there a way to cancel a queued sim?

dark token
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You hit the cancel sim button

spice spire
neat plank
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what does "divergent mythic+" mean?

keen spruce
dark token
slate crown
keen spruce
thorn fjord
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I’m sad

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I was excited

magic fossil
thorn fjord
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Now I’m sad

neat plank
dark token
slate crown
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I'm minimizing discord I am sad now

spice spire
magic fossil
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will farm now for it

dark token
neat plank
# magic fossil DONE!

why does this guy's item say mythic+ and the other guy had "divergent mythic+"?? wtf :p

slim hamlet
languid summit
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So I saw a wowhead article saying we should use wafting devotion on the weaponbs, but all the top rogues look like they are using sophic, any thoughts?

slate crown
neat plank
lucid silo
subtle tundra
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boys. its bursting on tyrannical????????

keen spruce
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wafting becomes better at some point normally

slim hamlet
subtle tundra
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cant wait to wipe my party many many times

north wren
slim hamlet
dark token
languid summit
peak bobcat
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what do i even take

keen spruce
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i'm taking a fkin ring

dark token
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Mythic track chest for catalyst

keen spruce
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out of vault

thorny rain
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So how good is "Ashes of the Embersoul"? I already have Bark trinket

keen spruce
dark token
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It's ok I guess

peak bobcat
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this is so trash

lucid sequoia
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Question related to assa rotation: I get the opener but out of opener - before doing your second, ... deathmark - do you shadow dance first to apply an empowered garrote before applying deathmark?

tranquil cobalt
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thoughts? i am assuming trinket. i already have 4pc

slim hamlet
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Everbloom bursting

keen spruce
spice spire
gray crest
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So... did anyone else thing that we were going to get a catalyst charge this week? cause i sure fucking did

slim hamlet
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Wait is NA already reset?

spice spire
keen spruce
slim hamlet
spice spire
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Yeah it’s every other innit

dark token
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They said every 2 weeks

shut owl
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3 bracers, 2 boots, and a cloak I've already got. GG

thorn fjord
haughty flicker
dark token
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Only reason for spark is it started week 0 with 2

neat plank
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these good vaults are boring, anyone got screenshots of their shit vault with 6 cloaks or something?

shut owl
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I'll get a new dagger when S4 hits I guess

oak tangle
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a tale of two items

thorn fjord
manic quartz
tame cloak
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not my problem.jpg

dark token
tame cloak
spice spire
slim hamlet
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Man I NEED to get branch before bursting everbloom

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I aint doing that dungeon

spice spire
dark token
lucid sequoia
dark token
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It costs 1k gold

slim hamlet
manic quartz
spice spire
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I’m literally a hater

oak tangle
lucid sequoia
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Thanks a bunch Kreivi!!

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❤️

sick aspen
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Should we have 2 catalyst charges this reset?

indigo rune
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tier head right

thorn fjord
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How did my sims go from 168k to 163k wtf

spice spire
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If you need tier? Idk everyone different

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Branch also bis trinket

indigo rune
spice spire
thorn fjord
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Nah

spice spire
indigo rune
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so i'll get 4 tier today

violet sonnet
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is 2 pc 2 pc worth it for higher ilvl

thorn fjord
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Think I’m doing something wrong

violet sonnet
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or stick with 4 pc until i can replace 4 pc

spice spire
violet sonnet
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kk

spice spire
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Our 2p is very strong

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Yeah the new one

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Old one exists ig

tranquil cobalt
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any reason not to just macro talisman to envenom?

tame cloak
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we craft toxic patch this week yea?

slim pebble
spice spire
violet sonnet
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branch

tame cloak
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i wish branch globules were bigger/brighter

smoky leaf
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
tame cloak
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that shit is cheeks to see in mob dense pulls 😐

thorn fjord
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Someone please explain to me whats happening

spice spire
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Post

violet sonnet
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my myth piece this week was a damn necklace with shit stats

swift magnet
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can someone explain the neck from the pin is supposed to be farmed? chain kill lord Kazzak during Wow anniversary event? does it always drop at the same ilvl or that a chance too?

fading patrol
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in AOE situation what is the max amount of target to put rupture and garrot on?

thorn fjord
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ohh splatter

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Derp

spice surge
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Thats all you can do

swift magnet
spice surge
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Until the event ends yes

swift magnet
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ok thanks

keen spruce
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before pickin something

thorn fjord
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yeah so im not going crazy right?

keen spruce
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we gotta check if stealthi is still in the 200k club

swift magnet
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is Kazzak tied to a quest or something? or you just go there and kill? it's in the cavern of times or else?

kindred rapids
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not bad

keen spruce
gilded river
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reallisticxally whats the piece we dont wear for tier?

lucid rain
kindred rapids
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haha yep

haughty flicker
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welp time for keys, cant wait to see my kb target die even faster now

kindred rapids
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only thing better would be a nick of time

swift magnet
kindred rapids
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nothing like your kb target dieing 3 seconds into cds

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witherbark probably?

slate osprey
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i got 0/4 tier. should i just take the crab?

kindred rapids
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it's bis myth track

lucid rain
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pretty sure you take the tier chest

swift magnet
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myth crab is pretty rare though

slim hamlet
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Guys does feint work on the unavoidable dmg of this on 3rd boss everbloom?

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It doesn't right?

slate osprey
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like, i aint in a competitive guild. im not replacing that crab anytime soon.

slim hamlet
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It just didn't feel like it did a difference, and then I read it and considering it is worded like that I thought it didn't

fading patrol
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in AOE situation what is the max amount of target to put rupture and garrot on?

slim hamlet
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but fuck me if it works then imagine not having feint on that fight

fervent mauve
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xcraft

fading patrol
slim hamlet
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The max is whenever u have infinite energy and full scent stacks

fading patrol
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8-10

spice spire
shut owl
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more rupture/garrote = you get more energy, not you lose more energy

spice spire
slim hamlet
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idk u get a feel for it, depends on a lot of things

rain mortar
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So gross I’m going to take bracers from my vault.

shut owl
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CT is your big energy drain

shut owl
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I'm prolly taking a socket token lol

haughty flicker
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honestly i'd take socket over bracers at that point lmao

little moth
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idk what to pick

rain mortar
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Hero track dagger is an upgrade but mythic track bracers with crit / mastery / speed. Feel like I have to do it.

haughty flicker
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oh they have speed

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yeah take them for speed set

spice spire
slate crown
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Tier is my best choice from raid row but I could get it natrually instead, going to hold off and see if I can take the myth track ring instead

rain mortar
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I won’t ever replace the bracers I guess

little moth
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is that dagger any good

thorn fjord
shut owl
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the on-use is 0 damage

little moth
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says it gives u a benifit tho

spice spire
little moth
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is it just style

shut owl
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a non-damaging benefit

spice spire
grand fjord
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whats the dmg % for 0 set to 2-set?

little moth
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ok going with the teir

eternal heath
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Well, this was almost tragic lol. I already have tier shoulders

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Thankfully myth track chest

keen spruce
eternal heath
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Hero chest*

keen spruce
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er no nvm

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i'm think of lethal dose

spice spire
keen spruce
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LETHAL DOSE

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I WAS CONFUS

spice spire
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It’s okay

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My mind is sharp

drifting light
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489 dagger is no dps gain vs 483 nick of time even on MH

spice spire
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Because I didn’t run 100 keys last week

drifting light
gentle belfry
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Does using a catalyst on an item affect/restart it's upgrade track? I forget

merry raven
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had an entire 4set in my vault 😭

keen spruce
spice spire
shut owl
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mine is infinite darkness

spice spire
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Margin siren

shut owl
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I'm not allowed to gear up

drifting light
spice spire
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Amen sistren

unkempt ibex
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any ideas for what's probably the best talents to synergize with double 2set in m+? i just got a phat glove and already had shoulder

spice spire
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The talents recommended kekdog

unkempt ibex
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oh are they the same regardleess of old/new?

spice spire
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I mean you can sim it to make sure

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But should be more or less

unkempt ibex
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that's nice

storm forum
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
unkempt ibex
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less mental calculating 4 me kekekeke

limber lion
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Tiersets are designed in a way where they don't really alter gameplay

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For better or for worse

brave sinew
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halp, i have shoulders tier

unkempt ibex
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shee

tall flame
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So I have maxed out DBB trink and 447 ashes trink and 2pc 2pc and already used my catalyst last week. Sims say coil trinket is best upgrade by 2k dps but by the looks of it its not that great of a trinket. So do I go tier shoulders and hope for tier this week/catalyst another piece next week for 4pc or just grab the trink?

eternal heath
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I feel like there's no world where I don't take chest here lol

unkempt ibex
eternal heath
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Myth track cloak is nice, but hero track tier chest for 2p is better

lucid rain
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COOL

spice spire
eternal heath
unreal parcel
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
odd flax
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worth crafting a toxic patch with the free wyrm enchanted crest at this point?

dark token
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Yazma's Wracking Pain on a +20 Tyrannical will deal ~450k damage up front and ~212k every 2 seconds to her target with the new changes.

↘️ Quoting Wowhead💙 (@Wowhead)

Blizzard has announced upcoming Mythic+ dungeon tuning which buffs Atal'Dazar, while nerfing DOTI and ToT and more!

#Dragonflight #Warcraft

https://www.wowhead.com/news/upcom...

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Don't go AD

shut owl
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YEP

lucid rain
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he beat 2 dps though

polar bridge
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If I have 4pc normal and above can I roll need on LFR tokens? Need the cosmetics..

eternal heath
lucid rain
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yeah I mean

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at least it went to the tank

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who is not ditching the raid

broken ibex
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
cinder quartz
solemn echo
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Still on 1pc but at least I got a stick :^)

little moth
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if we get the twoset do we go both 2 sets or keep the last seasons 4 set until we get the full 4 set of this season

hexed willow
shut owl
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okay, guess I got my weapon for the tier. superbloom gave me a dagger. Gonna go into mythic prog with world content weapons, lessgo

hexed willow
indigo epoch
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!up

final laurel
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there was so many people at the superbloom

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it glithced out and just deleted

eternal heath
tame cloak
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uuuu i get it

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craft patch at wyrm and then blast gear with aspects until next spark?

hexed willow
# tame cloak wait wut

When you kill fyrrak with the campaign quest you get a free enchanted wyrm. This lets you upgrade a piece of gear without impacting upgrades to weapons/trinkets/tier

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That’s what I would do unless you got absolutely fucked with weapons

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But crafting a weapon you know you’ll replace is shortsighted imo

tame cloak
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crafting weapon feels like career suicide

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when nick of time exists

hexed willow
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Exactly

tame cloak
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it took me 17 runs to get a branch, i'm not opposed to 17 more for a hero track nick

true flume
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nick of time feels like a career pathc considering how long it will take

hexed willow
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So I’m gonna take my bracers from 447 to 476 and then spend 90 badges on nick of time/branch

shut owl
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when I'm the only person in my raid with a non 470+ weapon, it feels like career suicide not to craft a dagger at this point lol

tame cloak
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i could slam my helm to 489

dark token
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489 MH is actually only .2% better than a 483 nick of time fyi

hard pond
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during kingsbane you go SD and put like 2 garrote ?

dark token
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And crafting is 486...

wet agate
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No spark quest this week?

storm forum
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I didnt get nick of time or tier in my vault i am devastated and I cannot be consoled

hexed willow
shut owl
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if they drop

dark token
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Farm more falls

hexed willow
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We’ve had 4 drop this past week

tame cloak
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drakeno rise
drakeyes fall

hexed willow
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Dreamcarver is a great interim dagger, I’m gonna miss it a lot

storm forum
native jay
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I'm very confused and looking for guidance. This is what I'm simming https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8yBgJXmCu6W2XoZ8ep8LxZ

On a training dummy, I am doiong SIGNIFICANTLY less damage, like we're talking i'm at like 70-80k. I have no clue what I'm doing wrong. I'm also wondering why my garrote damage is so high in comparison to my envenom damage, the sim shows envenom doing massive amounts of damage but on target dummy its garrote. I'm doing the correct rotation and even tried doing the exact rotation on the sim (even though it's a tiny bit different from the guide) and i'm still massively off. What am I doing wrong?

cunning geyser
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In ST target when playing branch, when do you pick up the last sphere?

thick schooner
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Is this good?

tall jay
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0 pcs still

hexed willow
shut owl
slim pebble
spice spire
hexed willow
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And then also share logs too

spice spire
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Start there

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Then see the diff

cunning geyser
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For branch in ST as assa, I pick up first 2 sphjeres quickly, 2nd one on Kingsbane but when do you pick up the last sphere?

spice spire
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Apl has 1/1/7

hexed willow
spice spire
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Word on the streets is that @slate crown has a weak aura for it

cunning geyser
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hmmm

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may I use it?

hexed willow
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The WA is incredible

cunning geyser
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please share

lucid rain
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is there a button or macro I can press to swap specs without going into the talents pane every time?

spice spire
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Yeah she shares it for a reason

cunning geyser
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!wa

hexed willow
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Just search branch on Wago

slate crown
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In LE's Profile

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Go

hexed willow
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Or LE profile (lots of)

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So god damn good

cunning geyser
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This one I assume ?

shadow helm
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DTB or shock this week?

hexed willow
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And a nice happy sound

kindred epoch
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would the arterial precision build be better for more m+ this week over tempered blades? for more ST

final laurel
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whats our tier off piece

dark token
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You always go AP blindside

hexed willow
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I mean both are m+ build

dark token
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Pls delete the other builds off wowhead

native jay
spice spire
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!wa

spice spire
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Also has it

kindred epoch
hexed willow
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Super helpful for evaluating yourself

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Especially since optimizing your opener is the most important thing you can do for sin imo

native jay
tame cloak
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quick Q for whispyrs plater; does it have kickable cast / prio cast tracking similar to jundies

spice spire
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Both of which are applicable to us

cunning geyser
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I saw LE one i'll try it but has anyone tried that wa? https://wago.io/8TVRJuKZ0
I feel like the vanish is a little bit late no?

raw cedar
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!stats

prisma monolithBOT
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The following is a general recommendation, but you will always get more accurate results through simming your gear through Top Gear.
Crit >= Mastery > Haste > Versatility
Note: In high mythic+ keys, you may want more Versatility to survive. While you may see this on high end players gear, this is generally worse DPS. For pure DPS, Versatility is mostly avoided.

steady marlin
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So same build as last week for M+? Bosses felt bad

spice spire
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I don’t use them because I’m just built diff (retired)

hexed willow
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@slate crown is here if you have questions about it Araka

strange python
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Is it worth dropping old 4p for 2p/2p on sin?

stiff kernel
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YES

tame cloak
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sim but prolly

hexed willow
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Yes, see !Guide

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Boo it doesn’t work

strange python
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Haha, ty

raw cedar
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guys when i look at the spreadsheet it looks like we are packing a ton of versa, is versa now a BIS assa stat?

spice spire
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I mean guides are in the pins

spice spire
#

Branch craters mastery value

native jay
half tartan
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
half tartan
#

is anyone crafting weapon?

raw cedar
#

I see, so should I not take this ring? it's the less shitty vault option today

spice spire
raw cedar
#

in my minds it's the best but who knows

native jay
tame cloak
#

with the amount of kicks this seasons i feel like assass has giga underappreciated value Prayge

spice spire
#

Literally knows

#

Brother

shut owl
#

especially since IW silence and blind doesn't count in details

raw cedar
#

I swear it doesn't work

spice spire
#

?

raw cedar
tame cloak
#

that's what counts smil

frigid kestrel
#

Why have I never known there was a “target dummy” sim in Raidbots?

raw cedar
#

like if anything else is equal, a higher ilvl ring should at least add 100 dps

frigid kestrel
#

I feel stupid

#

Prolly because I am tbh

digital wind
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
proper tapir
spice spire
chilly marsh
#

this Flame Neck i can farm daily?

topaz horizon
spice surge
thorny pond
#

game wants me to get vers so bad

topaz horizon
#

You know whats funny, I did one 19 of EB and got the trinket too XDD

random atlas
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
light sky
#

Boots and patch or 2x blue for m+ ?

raw cedar
native jay
spice surge
west ferry
#

is mutilate changing to ambush based on blindside procs?

copper jackal
#

!wa

west ferry
#

so only need 1 Keybind or is 2 separate more efficient?

bleak ivy
#

fuck yall getting vault already

#

L EU

split veldt
#

how do i sim necks with 3 sockets again?

proper tapir
tame cloak
#

on the [+]

gentle belfry
lucid rain
#

m+ build for council yeah?

split veldt
lucid rain
#

or no?

chilly marsh
#

can i kill the wb daily ? for the neck

tame cloak
#

1/day ye if u mean kazzak

runic hinge
#

How is Augury so bad

#

You would think they would tune a very rare trinket to be bis

spice surge
jade dawn
#

I'm struggling to keep my DoTs ticking, is on 5 cleave. Indiscriminate carnage the only talent that causes dots to spread or am i missing something?

gentle belfry
runic hinge
raw cedar
#

if dagger is timestrike i think you have to take it

#

otherwise i think you are correct

strange python
#

has anyone been in a dungeon with tyrannical yet, how are we looking

honest mantle
#

This is probably asked alot, sorry, when do i break tier for 2 piece this season?

proper tapir
lucid rain
#

true

honest mantle
#

ty

thin gate
#

guys, whats currently the best way for dreamwarden rep? tryna catch up with twink and many sources i found are already outdated :/

royal lantern
#

do stuff

#

if there is a rep bonus, grab it i gues

craggy basin
#

Do we have second cata today too or next week ?

royal lantern
#

next week

#

catalyst is every 2 weeks

oblique kiln
#

Do you always hold both shivs for KB on the non dance build

royal lantern
#

yes

bleak ivy
#

does bone spike build sim beetter in a pure ST fight?

royal lantern
#

sim yourself

runic hinge
neat plank
#

does ass use pretty much the same spec on all raid bosses?

proper tapir
neat plank
#

aha kk

strange niche
#

is it worth using Wafting Devotion > Sophic? Sims highest for me in ST but if I plan to spec swap and M+ should just stay Sophic?

lucid rain
#

get 4 nicks

#

2 wafting 2 sophic

#

ez 👏

#

but nah if you're doing m+ you probably want sophic

strange niche
gentle belfry
lucid rain
#

sim dslice just to be sure

woeful meteor
#

thats gear compare

gentle belfry
shadow helm
#

DTB THIS WEEK?

slim pebble
#

Isn't there an option for that on top gear

restive falcon
#

My guild is asking me why I want signet over hourglass

neat plank
#

you're not in control of your own character!!!

restive falcon
#

And said hourglass gives aoe buff over signet st

neat plank
#

and then what did they say ;O

torn peak
#

is leech best bonus for that dagger from raid

#

on sin spec

spice surge
#

Neither of them really matter

#

Pick whatever you think looks cool

strange python
neat plank
#

yeah but if you take this, youre permanently 1 week behind because its not myth track

earnest timber
#

Gosh dangit, I already have 4 piece, & my hourglass outsims the signet...

strange python
#

it is!

neat plank
#

oh it is myth :p

#

-,-

dark token
#

Signet max upgrade will be a DPS increase

strange python
#

for 5min st nothing outsims signet

earnest timber
strange python
#

aint no way

earnest timber
#

just for reference I left the hourglass at 470 too with the branch and the signet is also 473

#

on a nightly 5m st only

dark token
earnest timber
#

if you were a betting man you would've lost lol

heady badge
#

!dagger

earnest timber
#

also dw I even did a maxxed out both trinkets sim too

#

signet still lost dunno why

runic hinge
#

Probably you need the haste

earnest timber
#

sitting on 20% haste flat right now

low quartz
#

I am struggling to keep up in damage vs other dps on that first big pull of everbloom - any tips?

subtle kiln
#

@spice spire the irony of vault giving the blind man the branch trinket kekw

spice spire
subtle kiln
#

I said I had no intention of farming it. Blizz hold my beer. hahah

spice spire
lucid rain
#

👍

spice spire
#

Unluigi

still creek
#

on smolderon we open with a naked KB to get DM at first intermission?

#

with bl at that intermission

neat plank
earnest timber
#

im still so stuck with that sim pepesad

lucid rain
neat plank
lucid rain
slate crown
#

so on larodar

#

I do the accelerated opener and like

#

Every single time

#

Kingsbane lines up with a charge

#

Anyone else feel this and how to handle it?

broken ibex
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
spice spire
lucid rain
#

normal opener?

slate crown
#

delay KB by like 5 sec for after charge?

#

Or go normal opener?

lucid rain
#

and delay after charge

slate crown
#

Like I'm alwasy tempted to burn cloak and chase after

#

because he runs away with it

#

I'll just hold first KB till after charge, should resync fine

lucid rain
#

get your lock to insta-summon a gate in the direction of the charge

#

sprint + cloak + step to the charge

#

then gate back

slate crown
#

My friend

#

this is a random pug

strange python
#

Pog ? despite the augmentor

slate crown
#

we not going to be that coordinated lol

lucid rain
#

then you hold it until after the charge dracthyr_kek

proven saddle
white orchid
#

yall think a 470 Pips trinket should be the play instead of the 480 crit haste belt that sims 100 dps more? im running hero branch and a chromatic essence bc I dont have a better second trinket

burnt prism
#

on a myth track aswell

lavish isle
#

i should ench them with mastery or crit ?

boreal pumice
#

it's kind of weird that myth track doesn't go that much higher than heroic track

weak saffron
#

i mean they are cheap enchants

#

just buy them then sim your self

#

your crit does seems rather low

spice spire
#

You don’t even have to buy

#

We have tools insanecat

primal egret
#

im just curious does anyone know what stats the bracers on the bis list have?

gentle gyro
#

okay, after playing for a bit, i dig the rework. ST with Kingsbane has a nice flow to it

weak saffron
#

sooo depends what it randoms

gusty mirage
#

@spice surge @earnest remnant we're sad boys

gentle gyro
#

you can determine the stats

weak saffron
#

or you can use a craft item to pick it

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

Whatever sims best is what they have

gentle gyro
#

and those are individual

#

to your character

wet dagger
#

Fuck...

gusty mirage
#

easiest decision of your life

gusty mirage
weak saffron
#

lmao

earnest remnant
#

oof

weak saffron
#

poor one out for the homie

gusty mirage
#

we take shoulders to save 45 crests

#

what a time to be alive

lethal heart
gusty mirage
#

the bandolier?

zealous summit
#

pips on hero track or tier shoulders on mythic track? I have 4 piece already but shoulders are champion rn

lethal heart
#

ofc

gusty mirage
#

the thing that's 1.7% worse than my 470 sandglass?

#

BANGER TRINKET

lethal heart
#

for outlaw

gusty mirage
#

for what now

lethal heart
#

big m+ push

south geode
#

Is pip really good or simbait

gusty mirage
#

why would it be sim bait

slate gust
#

What tier slot are we not using?

gusty mirage
lethal heart
#

tbh if rogue is turbo s

#

i might play m+

zealous summit
lethal heart
#

last tier i wanted

#

but then

#

aug patch happened

hollow mantle
#

i dont any tier piece any suggestions , i shoudl take pips?

gusty mirage
#

solid s2 score

dark token
gusty mirage
#

I love pushing keys

weak saffron
#

whats the reason for going Wafting Devotion rather Spohic Devotion ?

dark token
#

it seems better than signet/pips now

gusty mirage
#

I don't think it did

gusty mirage
#

that's fuu/whispyr/koji question

weak saffron
#

i would like to presume so

gusty mirage
#

I don't really keep up with simc stuff

#

me too smol brain

weak saffron
#

but why does it

gusty mirage
lethal heart
#

i did so much m+

#

any i never looted

#

single ring

twilit parcel
#

Everyone getting so many Dick of Time in vault today.

#

jeesh

dark token
twilit parcel
#

Nick*

dark token
twilit parcel
#

I did not.

gusty mirage
#

that ring got traded to me

twilit parcel
dark token
#

lets see ur vault skip

#

i see u typing

lethal heart
#

im not rly complaining anyway

humble ginkgo
#

Got a nice lil bis ring

#

with socket

#

off vault

twilit parcel
#

gunR Nice

west ferry
#

!wa

gusty mirage
humble ginkgo
lethal heart
#

got important items from dungeons

#

rings are w/e gonna craft them anyway

gaunt tree
lethal heart
#

not with this but next spark

slate crown
#

Ugh spatter is doing ok work on larodar, more thanIB would, it's just not getting much potential because adds just melt from others :/

rotund oak
timid talon
#

Hey, quick question - im being asked to reroll rogue and I was hoping to understand if I should all in on gearing for sin or stick with outlaw? I'll be carried through norm and heroic so I just wanted to make sure I grabbed the right pieces. I guess to simplify the question, should I gear outlaw or sin first if I do both keys and mythic raid?

twilit parcel
#

Prio the one you're most comfy with.

timid talon
#

So there's no obvious winner? thanks that's really all I needed to know

twilit parcel
#

I find Outlaw to be strong but too fast paced for my liking.

prisma cypress
#

play sin and tell them to deal with it

twilit parcel
#

What Sleepslurp here said.

deep latch
#

I feel like I am losing a gcd when my Subterfuge ends and my Ambush switching to Mutilate. Could it be a ELVUI autobar issue?

neat horizon
#

Guys when you're fighting a boss and adds spawn and you dont have vanish, what do you do to maximize cleave on the adds ?

clever sapphire
grand trail
neat horizon
#

do you garrote rupture tab targeting them ?

finite echo
#

it's like .2 seconds iirc

deep latch
#

Any work arounds or just deal with it kind of thing

finite echo
#

not using stealth bar is the only way around it

#

which i assume you are using

deep latch
#

yeah

twilit parcel
#

I've made my stealth bar the exact same as my non-stealth bar, so there's no diff.

timid talon
rain mortar
#

Love watching liquid reclear Tindral and JPC bursting 1.7 mil DPS on opener lmao

deep latch
slate crown
cinder geode
#

Should i play outlaw over sin in raid if im not getting any externals ?

slate crown
#

If you do that there is no workaround to the stance delay

ancient kraken
clever sapphire
slate crown
#

Some people don't know about the stance delay, or don't experience it. I do experience it, my only solution was to make bars identical and deliberately press buttons when I want them (deliberately press ambush keybind, then mutilate keybind, as separate keys)

#

Or, you could jsut spam the keybinds more, which is what some people do

cinder geode
#

i like both of them so im fine with either, but my raid meatrides ret pallies and only gives externals to them, would no external outlaw theoretically do better than sin ?

spice spire
agile geode
#

Guys im afraid

clever sapphire
#

Good

whole mantle
#

i have 0 piece

carmine valve
#

Quick question, During death mark. Would you not want to duplicate rupture? Or do you priotize Envenoms to buff Kingsbane that is also launched during death mark window?

whole mantle
#

uhu

agile geode
#

The sin tier Will continue or we Will be nerfed, what are tour thought about?

spice spire
#

Doesn’t matter if cast before or after

dusk sun
#

what talent is best for tyrannical

carmine valve
#

What?!

#

It says application tho?

clever sapphire
#

The one that sims higher

whole mantle
#

Nick of time? :v

clever sapphire
slate crown
spice spire
twilit parcel
rotund oak
#

dont even ask

whole mantle
#

i have 0 pieces 😦

#

but is worthit

slate crown
runic hinge
#

nichole fulltime

gentle belfry
#

Is the normal dance spec any more complicated than the bonespike one?

ebon heath
#

nick

slate crown
#

Yeah nick fulltime for sure

whole mantle
#

never changes

spice spire
#

Nicholas of Timothy

rotund oak
#

no one cares,take the dagger

hollow mantle
#

Tier over pips?

twilit parcel
#

Nick-kun =UwU= S-shank me.

clever sapphire
spice spire
humble ginkgo
#

what off piece do we want for our patch

#

wrists?

clever sapphire
#

Wdym copium, i put harder in brackets because its not. feckin sap

spice spire
hollow mantle
humble ginkgo
#

i will go for wrist

spice spire
gentle belfry
spice spire
clever sapphire
#

You what

gentle belfry
#

too HARD

spice spire
#

It’s an extra button

#

I believe

clever sapphire
#

Its an extra keybind, thats considered harder

clever sapphire
#

1 less button is easier

#

No matter how you look at it

spice spire
#

I choose not to look at it at all

#

Simply constructed in a different manner

clever sapphire
#

Thats not smart, bonespike bis

#

Didnt even sim it

spice spire
#

Ur a real one for that

clever sapphire
#

Saw the build and im playing it since

#

It hurts on terros 2.0

#

But i still play it

neat plank
#

are you guys gonna play the left side of the tree this week in keys?

rotund oak
gentle belfry
#

Its a 1.2k loss hmmshit someone tell me it doesn't matter

clever sapphire
#

Put it in %

gentle belfry
#

.8

clever sapphire
#

Doesnt matter

gentle belfry
clever sapphire
#

Now gimme a good vault tomorrow

#

Thx

frigid perch
#

Can I get a second opinion on my GV? It says to take bracers over my first piece of tier... Is it worth creating my first and resimming?

languid ferry
#

I don't need seperate keybinds for mutilate and ambush like last season Outlaw used to do right?

clever sapphire
#

Assa used to do it too

#

Wdym

#

I still do it

languid ferry
#

oh could be the case I didn't rly play assa last season

clever sapphire
#

But ye you dont for blindside

#

You do for dance

lucid rain
#

this pug just killed normal fyrakk after losing all the remaining seeds to the first knockback

#

sheesh lol

clever sapphire
#

Dance only puts you in stealth, so you need ambush on stealth bar

slate crown
#

You can reduce down to a single keybind if you want and don't feel a stance bar swap delay, or use a macro to flip stealth stance for ambush/mutilate

#

but blindside is handled for you

clever sapphire
#

Can you handle my opener for me

languid ferry
boreal pumice
#

I never understood why someone would want a stealth bar swapping their bindings around that shit seems chaotic

cursive jungle
#

I thought the [Cruel Dreamcarver] dagger was good... it wasn't

#

lmao

boreal pumice
#

extra keybinds are so much easier

clever sapphire
languid ferry
#

aight thanks mate appreciate the quick response ^^

clever sapphire
cursive jungle
#

Oh! btw, does anyone have a problem with some kind of "bar swap delay" due to subterfuge?

whole mantle
clever sapphire
hexed willow
whole mantle
#

next week 4p i can wait without diying i think

dark token
hexed willow
#

Tier early on is very important

fallen forge
#

who drops a 489 dagger

gentle belfry
#

What would I macro this and witherbark to, and what notable macros are there for sin other than the usual cleartarget/target stuff

hexed willow
hexed willow
#

Just use it once in a dragonkin and never look at it again

gentle belfry
#

Ok tyty

hexed willow
#

For reference, raid and m+ are considered as fully explored

#

So it’s always 10% movement speed

red tide
#

that sounds insane

gentle belfry
cunning geyser
#

how accurate is the wowhead overall BiS assa

hexed willow
#

Since whispyr is in charge of it

fallen forge
hexed willow
cunning geyser
fallen forge
gentle belfry
hexed willow
hexed willow
winter gale
#

Can I make Hybrid or Shock build with Acrobatic Strikes?

hexed willow
#

since you collect 2 quickly and then you have enough time to pick up the third to last until the end of KB

tawdry crypt
#

what is the default raid build this tier dance/nodance/bonespike

hexed willow
#

and both are 2m cds

hexed willow
slate crown
#

250k wipe on larodar dracthyr_cry

bleak ivy
#

is assa without 4p weak af?

slate crown
#

? no

hexed willow
slate crown
#

I'm in 4pc from last tier and I'm still cranking

hexed willow
#

You still pump and have a good time

bleak ivy
signal wren
#

someone explain energy pooling with 4 set to me in 2 seconds

ebon heath
#

is 2/2 tier set copmbination better than the old s2 4 piece tier set?

safe rover
#

Is AP the build to play this week?

tame tangle
#

wait for more juice then spend juice

bleak ivy
#

I'm only likt 3-6th in raid dps as assaa without 4p and some braindead BM with 2 buttons topping?

signal wren
#

ty

deep latch
#

stance:0 is no stealth right?

shadow helm
#

i have a 476 dagger

slate crown
shadow helm
#

why is my other daggern ot discounted when upgrading