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rip my game
no tier no dagger see you fucks in 11.0
ugh we gettin nerfed
bis necky tho

Why would we get nerfed
I can't believe u didn't do a 20
what the fuck
@gusty mirage Cuz life is cruel
Damn, that’s real
That's no mythic track isn't it
I can’t even argue

huge vault
Its an alt?
my vault ain't workin
my god man, that's a royal flush
no dice

champion track worth it vs something heroic track?
nvm me simmy
so tier, or dagger?
its so cursed
Dagger all day
any vaults i love to watch vaults
guess i cant be too mad at tier
That shit doesnt exist
did you guya even trry doing 20s
wowhead weekly heroic overall time 
Mythic catalyst piece or nice ring ig
please no capes
Nice brand
I pray you don’t have chest

oh true the gloves
catalyst hands i gues
Honestly any myth track pieces are great
hm
nick of time pog
I'm still on loading screen boss, I got insta DC'd
Whats the move.. dagger or tier?
taking my myth track piece is a choice against guranteed 4pc
dagger
oh it's workin
dagger

Dagger
highest ilvl Belt versus lower ilvl but tier Set pants ?
Tier
prob signet brand for me
well I guess I should be happy I got bis non-tier legs
jk ill sim myself into the trash LMAO
489 dag is only 0.4% up for me over 483 timestrike
It’s time to sim brethren
mother fuck
Justice in the world
take neck swap to outlaw ez
Shmeeps got a bad vault (I’m a hater)
Do we wanna go 2-2 or keep t30 4pc?
i go tier helm here right?
Sim it

Touch grass bozo
!sims
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dagger or shoulders?? hmm
Lowkey this tragic
im feeling better about at least having catalyst fodder after seeing some of these vaults
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i need help, champion track tier, for guranteed 4pc, or myth track gloves and catalyse
50 keys and I get this shit
In the wowhead guide, there are two main talent builds for M+, "Arterial Shock" and "Hybrid". Which do you prefer and why? Which does more damage?
At least tier is good?
my vault isn't working 😦
i did legitimately 100 keys
have 4pc
for some fucking garbage
They do different things. And it depends on group.
If you need a shit ton of aoe, shock is great. If you need more st then hybrid works well
Gotta use the noggin
lol best item is bracers ffs
Sandglas is pretty much bis tho
Only beaten by mythic signet
I fucking hate u
oh dats nice
Nick and branch
my only myth track slot was blessed 😄
bro wtf
Saving this to post to my guildies tomorrow
omg
Bro got every hit
RNG is fucked
my head hurts
this is cap no?
sandglass seems pretty ass
go for mythic neck or branch or heroic head?
so priority to tier set items even if lower ilvl right ?
guys is there a softcap we should be aimingfor, for haste? and do we only get items in the vault from dungeons we cleared?
guys what i have to do different with 2 pieces?
branch bro are you kidding me lol
Branch you will never see it again hello
actually those legs are also bis
i feel u
LOL
Alrgith now I have a 20 everbloom +2'd, does this mean I will get invited to +17 everblooms?
branch will be hard to see again
man are you really asking or are you trollin lol
really asking
what stats should i aim for the crafting wrists? crit mastery or crit haste?
i dont have 2 piece 😐
do you have 2.7k rio score?
No
only have one
No one has 
Tough luck then buddy
Ur trolling
U get tier guarantee by week 5
You won't see branch for 25 weeks
lol
I'm staying in q with my +16 everbloom until nwaoh signs up
right, i was nervous
do you have two catalyst charges now?
Man my vault is literal cheeks
anyone else get FUCKED by blizzard today
will a maxed out hero track nick of time outdps a maxed out myth track regular dagger?
Many
hm
Bis mydas
Mydas is actually a decent trinket wdym
Take it for sub and smolderon prog
Outlaw likes mydas at least
Sure it’s not branch buts it’s still very competitive
We don’t mind it
Also ur outlaw flair
what stats should i aim for the crafting wrists? crit mastery or crit haste?
Go mydas
season 1 gaming
can someone answer this? anybody knows? is there a softcap we should be aimingfor, for haste? and do we only get items in the vault from dungeons we cleared?
No just sim it buddy
🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺
Our stat priority is fluid and will change constantly
Bahahaha
You’re just gonna have to use raidbots
I can't wait for whispyr response
help me out family
we should tag whispyr for our vault screenshots so he can help us decide
He would love that
pls don't ban
Is there a way to cancel a queued sim?
You hit the cancel sim button
I don’t got the answer but it depends on what you need. If you’re unsure and just want to run it https://www.raidbots.com/simbot
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what does "divergent mythic+" mean?
I would recommend untagging whispyr in this before he takes a lead pipe to your kneecaps
It means big dam
No, a Queued sim, there is no cancel button

DONE!
Now I’m sad
lies
1 more upgrade level? 
I'm minimizing discord I am sad now
Hi sad, i’m quake pleasure to meet you
will farm now for it
Dw we have branch and nick in vault tomorrow
why does this guy's item say mythic+ and the other guy had "divergent mythic+"?? wtf :p

divergent is for the speical items in the new dawn dungeons
So I saw a wowhead article saying we should use wafting devotion on the weaponbs, but all the top rogues look like they are using sophic, any thoughts?
We? Who the fuck you talking about #assassination message
doesn't seem that special to me but ok thx! 😛
im probably gonna hold til after raid tonight
sim it
boys. its bursting on tyrannical????????
wafting becomes better at some point normally
Use what sims best, at bis wafting is best
cant wait to wipe my party many many times
channeling my luck to you, bless up
healer problem
Welp
ty
what do i even take
i'm taking a fkin ring
Mythic track chest for catalyst
out of vault
So how good is "Ashes of the Embersoul"? I already have Bark trinket

It's ok I guess
this is so trash
Question related to assa rotation: I get the opener but out of opener - before doing your second, ... deathmark - do you shadow dance first to apply an empowered garrote before applying deathmark?
thoughts? i am assuming trinket. i already have 4pc

Trinket isn’t bad
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So... did anyone else thing that we were going to get a catalyst charge this week? cause i sure fucking did
Wait is NA already reset?

spark this week, catty next week
No
Nope, craft every 2nd week, cata every other
Yeah it’s every other innit
They said every 2 weeks
3 bracers, 2 boots, and a cloak I've already got. GG
Nah these are s2 vaults 
no we made all these up
Only reason for spark is it started week 0 with 2
these good vaults are boring, anyone got screenshots of their shit vault with 6 cloaks or something?
F.
I'll get a new dagger when S4 hits I guess
a tale of two items
Fatedddd
Envenom up ? if so -> DM-shiv-dance/kb-gar-envenom -> the usualy stuff
not my problem.jpg
Go farm world boss neck rn

You got a 450, ur chuckling
Nah you need some bitches
Bro socket ur neck before I neck you
But you're copying an unpowered garrote then, no?
It costs 1k gold
Yes but u didn't have to tell everyone that 
it updates when you put up the empowered
I’m literally a hater
i dropped them just before reset XD
Should we have 2 catalyst charges this reset?
tier head right
How did my sims go from 168k to 163k wtf
i already have tier shoulders, will get ksm now and have a catalist thingy
Did you break tier?
Nah

so i'll get 4 tier today
is 2 pc 2 pc worth it for higher ilvl
Think I’m doing something wrong
or stick with 4 pc until i can replace 4 pc
Sim it but probably
kk
any reason not to just macro talisman to envenom?
we craft toxic patch this week yea?
Please take branch in you don't have
It’s on different CD but outside of that not really
branch
i wish branch globules were bigger/brighter
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that shit is cheeks to see in mob dense pulls 😐
Someone please explain to me whats happening
Post
my myth piece this week was a damn necklace with shit stats
can someone explain the neck from the pin is supposed to be farmed? chain kill lord Kazzak during Wow anniversary event? does it always drop at the same ilvl or that a chance too?
in AOE situation what is the max amount of target to put rupture and garrot on?
Kill him once a day
Thats all you can do
until end of days?
Until the event ends yes
ok thanks
mine dropped from about 193k to 187k
before pickin something

yeah so im not going crazy right?
is Kazzak tied to a quest or something? or you just go there and kill? it's in the cavern of times or else?
not bad
just go to blasted lands and kill him
reallisticxally whats the piece we dont wear for tier?
mr trinkets over here
haha yep
welp time for keys, cant wait to see my kb target die even faster now
only thing better would be a nick of time
which one are you getting?
i got 0/4 tier. should i just take the crab?
Pants
it's bis myth track
pretty sure you take the tier chest
myth crab is pretty rare though
Guys does feint work on the unavoidable dmg of this on 3rd boss everbloom?
It doesn't right?
like, i aint in a competitive guild. im not replacing that crab anytime soon.
yes its AOE damage
It just didn't feel like it did a difference, and then I read it and considering it is worded like that I thought it didn't
in AOE situation what is the max amount of target to put rupture and garrot on?
but fuck me if it works then imagine not having feint on that fight
no max
xcraft
wont we run out of energy tho
The max is whenever u have infinite energy and full scent stacks
so how much that is about
8-10
I could be blind but the only change I see is a CT fix
more rupture/garrote = you get more energy, not you lose more energy

idk u get a feel for it, depends on a lot of things
So gross I’m going to take bracers from my vault.
CT is your big energy drain
I'm prolly taking a socket token lol
honestly i'd take socket over bracers at that point lmao
idk what to pick
Hero track dagger is an upgrade but mythic track bracers with crit / mastery / speed. Feel like I have to do it.
Wait I found it https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/commit/d0ae54ee658305672b4b0ca861a00e222c3a7b08
Tier is my best choice from raid row but I could get it natrually instead, going to hold off and see if I can take the myth track ring instead
I won’t ever replace the bracers I guess
is that dagger any good
@spice spire https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/45G3U1ax1y1Nc1pSKxvKci makes sense again
the on-use is 0 damage
says it gives u a benifit tho

is it just style
a non-damaging benefit
!dagger
whats the dmg % for 0 set to 2-set?
ok going with the teir
Well, this was almost tragic lol. I already have tier shoulders
Thankfully myth track chest
wait but IB does contribute to VW

Hero chest*
489 dagger is no dps gain vs 483 nick of time even on MH
Because I didn’t run 100 keys last week
Does using a catalyst on an item affect/restart it's upgrade track? I forget
had an entire 4set in my vault 😭
0.1% 
mine is infinite darkness
Margin 
I'm not allowed to gear up

Amen sistren
any ideas for what's probably the best talents to synergize with double 2set in m+? i just got a phat glove and already had shoulder
The talents recommended 
oh are they the same regardleess of old/new?
that's nice
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less mental calculating 4 me 
Tiersets are designed in a way where they don't really alter gameplay
For better or for worse
halp, i have shoulders tier
shee
So I have maxed out DBB trink and 447 ashes trink and 2pc 2pc and already used my catalyst last week. Sims say coil trinket is best upgrade by 2k dps but by the looks of it its not that great of a trinket. So do I go tier shoulders and hope for tier this week/catalyst another piece next week for 4pc or just grab the trink?
I feel like there's no world where I don't take chest here lol
i'm leaning towards pants, what's your raiding like and competition for getting them from larodar? since they're on mythic track and pip's is just heroic track
Myth track cloak is nice, but hero track tier chest for 2p is better
Here I’ve always been of the opinion that if a 5/6 trinket drops compared to tier I sim for tier; but I think you should do what you think is best
bet that warrior did like 25k dps too
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worth crafting a toxic patch with the free wyrm enchanted crest at this point?
Yazma's Wracking Pain on a +20 Tyrannical will deal ~450k damage up front and ~212k every 2 seconds to her target with the new changes.
↘️ Quoting Wowhead💙 (@Wowhead)
Blizzard has announced upcoming Mythic+ dungeon tuning which buffs Atal'Dazar, while nerfing DOTI and ToT and more!
#Dragonflight #Warcraft
Don't go AD
YEP
he's a tonk
he beat 2 dps though
If I have 4pc normal and above can I roll need on LFR tokens? Need the cosmetics..
Hmm...I'll give it to him then
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no, it keeps its track progress
rat
but yes 🥲
Still on 1pc but at least I got a stick :^)
if we get the twoset do we go both 2 sets or keep the last seasons 4 set until we get the full 4 set of this season
Chest and convert prob
okay, guess I got my weapon for the tier. superbloom gave me a dagger. Gonna go into mythic prog with world content weapons, lessgo
use the free enchanted wyrm crest this week and use aspects to upgrade 4 things
!up
wait wut
Yeah that is what I was thinking
When you kill fyrrak with the campaign quest you get a free enchanted wyrm. This lets you upgrade a piece of gear without impacting upgrades to weapons/trinkets/tier
That’s what I would do unless you got absolutely fucked with weapons
But crafting a weapon you know you’ll replace is shortsighted imo
Exactly
nick of time feels like a career pathc considering how long it will take
So I’m gonna take my bracers from 447 to 476 and then spend 90 badges on nick of time/branch
when I'm the only person in my raid with a non 470+ weapon, it feels like career suicide not to craft a dagger at this point lol
489 MH is actually only .2% better than a 483 nick of time fyi
during kingsbane you go SD and put like 2 garrote ?
And crafting is 486...
No spark quest this week?
I didnt get nick of time or tier in my vault i am devastated and I cannot be consoled
Any raid dagger is going to go to you though
if they drop
Disc cat time?
Farm more falls
We’ve had 4 drop this past week
rise
fall
Dreamcarver is a great interim dagger, I’m gonna miss it a lot
i got farther in the raid with my priest than my rogue in heroic last week, so maybe
I'm very confused and looking for guidance. This is what I'm simming https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8yBgJXmCu6W2XoZ8ep8LxZ
On a training dummy, I am doiong SIGNIFICANTLY less damage, like we're talking i'm at like 70-80k. I have no clue what I'm doing wrong. I'm also wondering why my garrote damage is so high in comparison to my envenom damage, the sim shows envenom doing massive amounts of damage but on target dummy its garrote. I'm doing the correct rotation and even tried doing the exact rotation on the sim (even though it's a tiny bit different from the guide) and i'm still massively off. What am I doing wrong?
In ST target when playing branch, when do you pick up the last sphere?
Is this good?
You changed
0 pcs still
Sim without raid buffs and then compare
Change your sim from patchwerk to training dummy.
No delete it
There’s a training dummy option
And then also share logs too
For branch in ST as assa, I pick up first 2 sphjeres quickly, 2nd one on Kingsbane but when do you pick up the last sphere?
7ish seconds after the first two
Apl has 1/1/7
Anywhere between 4-9s is fine for us
Word on the streets is that @slate crown has a weak aura for it
The WA is incredible
please share
is there a button or macro I can press to swap specs without going into the talents pane every time?
Yeah she shares it for a reason
!wa
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Just search branch on Wago
DTB or shock this week?
And a nice happy sound
would the arterial precision build be better for more m+ this week over tempered blades? for more ST
whats our tier off piece
You always go AP blindside
I mean both are m+ build
Pls delete the other builds off wowhead
I don't actually know how to get/share logs 😅 one of my guildies usually does it
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Also has it
ye i mean if precision would be better for tyrannical
Warcraft logs has an application that you can upload personal combat logs. The website has a guide on how to set it up
Super helpful for evaluating yourself
Especially since optimizing your opener is the most important thing you can do for sin imo
Got it. So when you're on the training dummy in game, does it not factor in your food/flask buffs? They're on right now, held over from last night
quick Q for whispyrs plater; does it have kickable cast / prio cast tracking similar to jundies
Yeah dummy doesn’t factor raid buffs or execute time
Both of which are applicable to us
Execute is huge for us
I saw LE one i'll try it but has anyone tried that wa? https://wago.io/8TVRJuKZ0
I feel like the vanish is a little bit late no?
LE is fantastic
!stats
The following is a general recommendation, but you will always get more accurate results through simming your gear through Top Gear.
Crit >= Mastery > Haste > Versatility
Note: In high mythic+ keys, you may want more Versatility to survive. While you may see this on high end players gear, this is generally worse DPS. For pure DPS, Versatility is mostly avoided.
So same build as last week for M+? Bosses felt bad
I don’t use them because I’m just built diff (retired)
@slate crown is here if you have questions about it Araka
Is it worth dropping old 4p for 2p/2p on sin?
YES
sim but prolly
Haha, ty
guys when i look at the spreadsheet it looks like we are packing a ton of versa, is versa now a BIS assa stat?
I mean guides are in the pins
No, we just like all stats so naturally we’ll take some vers in
Branch craters mastery value
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vtwVdjN6Up6nRMUqKh2mCv ok so that looks a little more accurate to what I'm getting to. Still kinda weird tho that the sim has envenom being the main hitter whereas ingame for me it's garrote tho. working on the logs
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are u spending 5mins
is anyone crafting weapon?
I see, so should I not take this ring? it's the less shitty vault option today
If it’s the best option probably safe to take 
in my minds it's the best but who knows
i haven't timed exactly but the opener and then two rounds of deathmark cd use so that's about 5 mins
with the amount of kicks this seasons i feel like assass has giga underappreciated value 
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Literally knows
Brother
especially since IW silence and blind doesn't count in details
I swear it doesn't work
?
the homies appreciate everbloom trash autowalking for 10 seconds
that's what counts 
Why have I never known there was a “target dummy” sim in Raidbots?
like if anything else is equal, a higher ilvl ring should at least add 100 dps
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The sim is adding envenom and poison bomb together, click the arrow next to envenom to see it's actual percentage
That doesn’t look right, I’d run it again.
this Flame Neck i can farm daily?

Or link it and we can see whats going wrong
game wants me to get vers so bad
You know whats funny, I did one 19 of EB and got the trinket too 
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Boots and patch or 2x blue for m+ ?
I know, i have been having issues with droptimizer for a while it never seems wrong. I run the same thing in gear compare get different results
aaaaah that makes sense, thank you very much, I was panicking thinking I'm gonna be letting down the guildies in raid tonight 
If you have high uptime silken lining, if not the patch
is mutilate changing to ambush based on blindside procs?
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yes
so only need 1 Keybind or is 2 separate more efficient?
how do i sim necks with 3 sockets again?
No worries, mate! Sin is the chill spec, we don't worry about letting the guild down... We just yolo raids and hope for the best
add socket -> add socket -> add socket
on the [+]
489 dagg/483 tier shoulders simming lower than 483 Nick w/ 489 tier shoulders
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aHURx3AjvBwbh8cGvBBtQD
m+ build for council yeah?
ah fml, ty
or no?
can i kill the wb daily ? for the neck
1/day ye if u mean kazzak
You do no damage outside cds, so if it procs there you can barely even get all of the damage out of it
I'm struggling to keep my DoTs ticking, is on 5 cleave. Indiscriminate carnage the only talent that causes dots to spread or am i missing something?
Can anyone confirm that I didn't make a mistake here and that it's actually worth to go for 489 tier shoulders over 489 dagger?
Oh yeah true, if you're pooling it's gonna do 0 dam
has anyone been in a dungeon with tyrannical yet, how are we looking
This is probably asked alot, sorry, when do i break tier for 2 piece this season?
You don't need IW and idk if you need IC, dudes are never stacked
true
asap
ty
guys, whats currently the best way for dreamwarden rep? tryna catch up with twink and many sources i found are already outdated :/
Do we have second cata today too or next week ?
Do you always hold both shivs for KB on the non dance build
yes
does bone spike build sim beetter in a pure ST fight?
sim yourself
get anniversary buff and the buff for eating outside a capital and just do stuff
does ass use pretty much the same spec on all raid bosses?
Which caustic spatter out on pure ST fights
aha kk
is it worth using Wafting Devotion > Sophic? Sims highest for me in ST but if I plan to spec swap and M+ should just stay Sophic?
why not just top gear it?
get 4 nicks
2 wafting 2 sophic
ez 👏
but nah if you're doing m+ you probably want sophic
still need my first 1
I did above - just surprised lol
sim dslice just to be sure
thats gear compare
because Im simming tier I havent redeemed tokens/cata for yet
DTB THIS WEEK?
Isn't there an option for that on top gear
you're not in control of your own character!!!
and then what did they say ;O
EASY
yeah but if you take this, youre permanently 1 week behind because its not myth track
Gosh dangit, I already have 4 piece, & my hourglass outsims the signet...
it is!
Highly doubt that
Signet max upgrade will be a DPS increase
for 5min st nothing outsims signet
aint no way
just for reference I left the hourglass at 470 too with the branch and the signet is also 473
on a nightly 5m st only

if you were a betting man you would've lost lol
!dagger
also dw I even did a maxxed out both trinkets sim too
signet still lost dunno why
Probably you need the haste
sitting on 20% haste flat right now
I am struggling to keep up in damage vs other dps on that first big pull of everbloom - any tips?
@spice spire the irony of vault giving the blind man the branch trinket 

I said I had no intention of farming it. Blizz hold my beer. hahah

Unluigi
on smolderon we open with a naked KB to get DM at first intermission?
with bl at that intermission
who are you on that screenshot
im still so stuck with that sim pepesad
99
sry ;>

so on larodar
I do the accelerated opener and like
Every single time
Kingsbane lines up with a charge
Anyone else feel this and how to handle it?
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normal opener?
and delay after charge
Like I'm alwasy tempted to burn cloak and chase after
because he runs away with it
I'll just hold first KB till after charge, should resync fine
get your lock to insta-summon a gate in the direction of the charge
sprint + cloak + step to the charge
then gate back
Pog ? despite the augmentor
we not going to be that coordinated lol
then you hold it until after the charge 
Just sim signet vs hourglass. I think it’s picking hourglass for you because of how big an upgrade the mythic legs are for you.
yall think a 470 Pips trinket should be the play instead of the 480 crit haste belt that sims 100 dps more? im running hero branch and a chromatic essence bc I dont have a better second trinket
on a myth track aswell
i should ench them with mastery or crit ?
it's kind of weird that myth track doesn't go that much higher than heroic track
i mean they are cheap enchants
just buy them then sim your self
your crit does seems rather low
You can top gear this
You don’t even have to buy
We have tools 
im just curious does anyone know what stats the bracers on the bis list have?
okay, after playing for a bit, i dig the rework. ST with Kingsbane has a nice flow to it
they are crrafted ones
sooo depends what it randoms
@spice surge @earnest remnant we're sad boys
you can determine the stats
or you can use a craft item to pick it

Whatever sims best is what they have
waddup
lmao
oof
poor one out for the homie
trinket for m+ push 
the bandolier?
pips on hero track or tier shoulders on mythic track? I have 4 piece already but shoulders are champion rn
ofc
for what now
big m+ push
Is pip really good or simbait
why would it be sim bait
What tier slot are we not using?
yeah you know me, big key pusher
legs, you want the AD legs
i dont any tier piece any suggestions , i shoudl take pips?
solid s2 score
did hourglass get a sim buff
whats the reason for going Wafting Devotion rather Spohic Devotion ?
it seems better than signet/pips now
I don't think it did
more damage
that's fuu/whispyr/koji question
i would like to presume so
but why does it
1400 haste > 900 agi
dont look at stealthi's gear then
Nick*
you intended this
I did not.

Evidence?
im not rly complaining anyway
Nice
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gamer

that's some skill u got bro
not with this but next spark
Ugh spatter is doing ok work on larodar, more thanIB would, it's just not getting much potential because adds just melt from others :/
hahahaahha thats a rough one
Hey, quick question - im being asked to reroll rogue and I was hoping to understand if I should all in on gearing for sin or stick with outlaw? I'll be carried through norm and heroic so I just wanted to make sure I grabbed the right pieces. I guess to simplify the question, should I gear outlaw or sin first if I do both keys and mythic raid?
Whatever spec you like best.
Prio the one you're most comfy with.
So there's no obvious winner? thanks that's really all I needed to know
I find Outlaw to be strong but too fast paced for my liking.
play sin and tell them to deal with it
What Sleepslurp here said.
I feel like I am losing a gcd when my Subterfuge ends and my Ambush switching to Mutilate. Could it be a ELVUI autobar issue?
Guys when you're fighting a boss and adds spawn and you dont have vanish, what do you do to maximize cleave on the adds ?
Whatever you prefer for real, both are good
thats the worst vaul i hopefully will see
do you garrote rupture tab targeting them ?
stealth delay likely
it's like .2 seconds iirc
Any work arounds or just deal with it kind of thing
yeah
I've made my stealth bar the exact same as my non-stealth bar, so there's no diff.
Thanks, Im definitely a sin player at heart so I'll just focus on that, as it definitely doesn't feel like there's a clear winner like there have been in the past.
Love watching liquid reclear Tindral and JPC bursting 1.7 mil DPS on opener lmao
Mine is exactly the same aside from Ambush and Mutilate
Well that's the problem 😛
=UwU=
Should i play outlaw over sin in raid if im not getting any externals ?
If you do that there is no workaround to the stance delay
why no branch 
You should play what you want
Some people don't know about the stance delay, or don't experience it. I do experience it, my only solution was to make bars identical and deliberately press buttons when I want them (deliberately press ambush keybind, then mutilate keybind, as separate keys)
Or, you could jsut spam the keybinds more, which is what some people do
i like both of them so im fine with either, but my raid meatrides ret pallies and only gives externals to them, would no external outlaw theoretically do better than sin ?
They’re close either way
Guys im afraid
Good
i have 0 piece
Quick question, During death mark. Would you not want to duplicate rupture? Or do you priotize Envenoms to buff Kingsbane that is also launched during death mark window?
uhu
The sin tier Will continue or we Will be nerfed, what are tour thought about?
Rupture duplicated during dm
Doesn’t matter if cast before or after
what talent is best for tyrannical
The one that sims higher
Nick of time? :v
Read it out loud pls
yeah wow tooltips
Yeah
Nick indeed.
holy shit nick of time!
nichole fulltime
Is the normal dance spec any more complicated than the bonespike one?
nick
Yeah nick fulltime for sure
never changes
Nicholas of Timothy
no one cares,take the dagger
Tier over pips?
Nick-kun =UwU= S-shank me.
Bonespike is the "harder" one since you have an extra keybind
Everyone’s status is different. Work according to your loot priority or whatever your guild does with loot distribution
Wdym copium, i put harder in brackets because its not. feckin sap
Wrists or belt
but for my own prio whats better , i only have 2 piece
Whichever sims higher is my answer
Can I macro it with mutilate 

You what
too HARD
Its an extra keybind, thats considered harder
Ur a real one for that
Saw the build and im playing it since
It hurts on terros 2.0
But i still play it
are you guys gonna play the left side of the tree this week in keys?
im so stealing this,thx man
Its a 1.2k loss
someone tell me it doesn't matter
Put it in %
.8
Doesnt matter

Can I get a second opinion on my GV? It says to take bracers over my first piece of tier... Is it worth creating my first and resimming?
I don't need seperate keybinds for mutilate and ambush like last season Outlaw used to do right?
oh could be the case I didn't rly play assa last season
this pug just killed normal fyrakk after losing all the remaining seeds to the first knockback
sheesh lol
Dance only puts you in stealth, so you need ambush on stealth bar
You can reduce down to a single keybind if you want and don't feel a stance bar swap delay, or use a macro to flip stealth stance for ambush/mutilate
but blindside is handled for you
Can you handle my opener for me
I can just put it on the place mutilate used to be right or do i also wanna be able to mutilate while I have the stealth bar
I never understood why someone would want a stealth bar swapping their bindings around that shit seems chaotic
extra keybinds are so much easier
Yap, no mutilate in stealth
aight thanks mate appreciate the quick response ^^
Its an okay mog at best
Oh! btw, does anyone have a problem with some kind of "bar swap delay" due to subterfuge?

😄
Me use extra button for ambush, me bars same, me no have issue
Yes because then you can get a second piece of tier and break 4p. Plus you want to craft bracers for toxic patch
next week 4p i can wait without diying i think
upgrade it rn
thank you
Tier early on is very important
wait then why am i farming the shit out of it
who drops a 489 dagger
What would I macro this and witherbark to, and what notable macros are there for sin other than the usual cleartarget/target stuff
The vault drops it
Why would you macro it?
u dont macro this
Just use it once in a dragonkin and never look at it again
Ok tyty
For reference, raid and m+ are considered as fully explored
So it’s always 10% movement speed
that sounds insane
damn thats not what I thought it did lol garbage
how accurate is the wowhead overall BiS assa
It’s always to go date
Since whispyr is in charge of it
from 20s?
18 plus drops mythic track in the vault
Ok nice but I guess it's not super relevant when progressing but good to know
ahh tyty
wouldnt macro witherbark to KB or dance?
Yeah check wowhead, then the pins/faq here, then search this channel. If your question isn’t answered, ask away 🙂
DM
Can I make Hybrid or Shock build with Acrobatic Strikes?
since you collect 2 quickly and then you have enough time to pick up the third to last until the end of KB
what is the default raid build this tier dance/nodance/bonespike
and both are 2m cds
Dance is default imo (need more data on bone spike from the pin)
okay makes sense ty
250k wipe on larodar 
is assa without 4p weak af?
? no
Nah
I'm in 4pc from last tier and I'm still cranking
You still pump and have a good time
I dont have last tier tier
someone explain energy pooling with 4 set to me in 2 seconds
is 2/2 tier set copmbination better than the old s2 4 piece tier set?
Is AP the build to play this week?
wait for more juice then spend juice
I'm only likt 3-6th in raid dps as assaa without 4p and some braindead BM with 2 buttons topping?
ty
stance:0 is no stealth right?
i have a 476 dagger
Maintain envenom buff as much as you can without clipping if it falls off wait for 80% energy (literally just let your energy build) then start again
why is my other daggern ot discounted when upgrading
















